very interesting! it is true that you tend to fall into a mindset that society around you has. its quite hard to totally drop it. and personally speaking it can even feel wrong.
Social anxiety's a tenacious beast too. Self-judgment, self-sabotage. The belief in the self is the problem, and belief that it must be a struggle, but that doesn't mean it won't be difficult anyway. Or it could be easy. My own experience though, and there is nothing intrinsically wrong about it, hasn't been easy.
My ego still here, clinging on. But take my word for it, a profound seeing has taken place. My last thread is dropping what I think people think about me. I still can't seem to clarify to myself that the ego isn't the real me. My social anxiety really is the only thing I'm clinging onto. Saying this, I've heard mooji say the only thing keeping you from freedom is the lack of knowledge that you are already free. Somehow, we actually imagine that we are not free. Freedom is literally a belief away
@xfloweroflifex wow...i typed that message before i even watched the video so i know what you mean now...erm wouldn't you LOVE that feeling of not caring tho..utter freedom...there shouldn't be any fear of suddenly not caring about family or job or anything because if anything you will see your life crystal clear...no worries or stress in the way...it will be like the veil stripped from your eyes so you can fully function in the world...i have absolutely no fear in letting go i want it too bad!
@Simon0 I like my wierd friends the most. I feel more comfortable with them. guess I don't have to hide my wierdness(uniqueness perhaps) from them. Better to be wierd than wired.
@xfloweroflifex wait i need to understand this...are u saying that you had a fear of others seeing this false identity of you in their minds somehow(who we think we are)...but now you are getting feelings of pure freedom as you realise you are not this person who u thought u was? i can relate alot if so
What do you do when you try to move into awakening, all the people who know you see you have changed and might not like it. This kind of thing can make you revert back to the confused/burdened state, just so other people wont think you are wierd. I dont feel confident to move into the awakened state for this reason.
It doesn't care whether we get enlightened or not. Its only job is to heal itself under any circumstance. That is what life is doing. Making more of what is here, and healing itself when it is wounded. Anything I say to you will just be nonsense coming from my mind. Enjoy it and goodbye :) Maybe silence is the answer, not a full mental understanding of reality
I have heard all of this stuff many times before. Why do you have to keep responding if you really have had a profound seeing? If you respond again I will really know that you are stuck.
I want to leave. I want to see the world differently. The process can only move me closer to source, to simply being. I will be removed but more in the world than I ever can be while part of the collective consciousness. The collective consciousness holds me in the dream. I want to wake up. Enough of this drifting in and out of this half waking stupor.
but if you can take it one step further and observe who is watching the spiritual/social self bare the experience? if you cant find the answer stop there.
cool words,,, too bad most people will aply it within self-dishonesty you could sumarise all this with 2 words STOP FEAR stop living in fear... do you consider where the fears come from? what are they limiting? what was theyr design?... the fear being stop will uleach mayhem of separation because not all beings are programmed equaly. they dont have equal bodys they dont have equal energy (money) its not what you do that determines who you are, its who you are the determines what you do.
you so realise enlightenment isnt an experience. its a lack of belief that you are a person because you dont enter the kingdom of the mind. you look around you and see like a newborn baby knowing that inside of you is no one. there is just a body and you are all of this
Come on man! Belief is just mental gymnastics. You? What the hell is that? You call that ego? Where exactly am "I" in this complex body-mind confusion? Mind, body, breath and feeling are ALL you are. The 4 faculties are the whole balll of wax. That's what the ego is. Can you be anything other than those 4 faculties? Thinking,, believing, hoping, searching all that stuff we use to confirm the substantiality of "I". Here's a koan: Imagin another primary color.
Adyashanti is an outstanding teacher
very interesting! it is true that you tend to fall into a mindset that society around you has. its quite hard to totally drop it. and personally speaking it can even feel wrong.
wonderful teacher! thank you
hey this vid reminds me why i used to love Adya talks!
by the way does anyone know the method to "wake up". Despite everything I have read "there is nothing to realise" ect. i still have not woken up.
Social anxiety's a tenacious beast too. Self-judgment, self-sabotage. The belief in the self is the problem, and belief that it must be a struggle, but that doesn't mean it won't be difficult anyway. Or it could be easy. My own experience though, and there is nothing intrinsically wrong about it, hasn't been easy.
thank you!
My ego still here, clinging on. But take my word for it, a profound seeing has taken place. My last thread is dropping what I think people think about me. I still can't seem to clarify to myself that the ego isn't the real me. My social anxiety really is the only thing I'm clinging onto. Saying this, I've heard mooji say the only thing keeping you from freedom is the lack of knowledge that you are already free. Somehow, we actually imagine that we are not free. Freedom is literally a belief away
@xfloweroflifex wow...i typed that message before i even watched the video so i know what you mean now...erm wouldn't you LOVE that feeling of not caring tho..utter freedom...there shouldn't be any fear of suddenly not caring about family or job or anything because if anything you will see your life crystal clear...no worries or stress in the way...it will be like the veil stripped from your eyes so you can fully function in the world...i have absolutely no fear in letting go i want it too bad!
I am ready to find out. Don Juan Matus Castenedas teacher called it The Journey To Ixtland.
Free yourself from everything you fear to lose. -Master Yoda
yeaaaa...i feel that...
Yes! It is emotions, your limbic system discharges its "surplus" energy to the digestive system through the spine. No magic here, just emotions.
I only wish I could experience this, at least that's what I'm feeling now.
@Simon0 I like my wierd friends the most. I feel more comfortable with them. guess I don't have to hide my wierdness(uniqueness perhaps) from them. Better to be wierd than wired.
@xfloweroflifex wait i need to understand this...are u saying that you had a fear of others seeing this false identity of you in their minds somehow(who we think we are)...but now you are getting feelings of pure freedom as you realise you are not this person who u thought u was? i can relate alot if so
this is why you are having this life, for what other reason are you here, you are confused it is not your fault
For instance, listen to his talk about terror on the spiritual path.
What do you do when you try to move into awakening, all the people who know you see you have changed and might not like it.
This kind of thing can make you revert back to the confused/burdened state, just so other people wont think you are wierd. I dont feel confident to move into the awakened state for this reason.
What message are you referring to, its been so long
I am this
It's easy but it's very difficult. Even Adya says that.
advice on not getting "caught" when you are as A. says, "out there"...so that you come full circle. ? anyone?
PerfectCleanse from Garden of Life. David Wolfe on raw foods.
@Aurelius27x to lose fear you from everything Free yourself
It doesn't care whether we get enlightened or not. Its only job is to heal itself under any circumstance. That is what life is doing. Making more of what is here, and healing itself when it is wounded. Anything I say to you will just be nonsense coming from my mind. Enjoy it and goodbye :) Maybe silence is the answer, not a full mental understanding of reality
I have heard all of this stuff many times before. Why do you have to keep responding if you really have had a profound seeing? If you respond again I will really know that you are stuck.
I want to leave. I want to see the world differently. The process can only move me closer to source, to simply being. I will be removed but more in the world than I ever can be while part of the collective consciousness. The collective consciousness holds me in the dream. I want to wake up. Enough of this drifting in and out of this half waking stupor.
fuck I can relate so much to this !
but if you can take it one step further and observe who is watching the spiritual/social self bare the experience?
if you cant find the answer stop there.
you are this
why else are you here. you are here having this experience because you are here, now wake up and stop denying you are this lol.
cool words,,,
too bad most people will aply it within
self-dishonesty
you could sumarise all this with 2 words
STOP FEAR
stop living in fear... do you consider where the fears come from? what are they limiting? what was theyr design?... the fear being stop will uleach mayhem of separation because not all beings are programmed equaly.
they dont have equal bodys they dont have equal energy (money)
its not what you do that determines who you are, its who you are the determines what you do.
Hahaha how can you not see!
Yep, EGO.
btw you're gonna laugh.. alot
A lot of pat New Age answers on here. If awakening were as easy as everyone on here puts it, we'd all be Buddhas.
I think we just make it hard.
go google living waters and take the good test!
you so realise enlightenment isnt an experience. its a lack of belief that you are a person because you dont enter the kingdom of the mind. you look around you and see like a newborn baby knowing that inside of you is no one. there is just a body and you are all of this
Come on man! Belief is just mental gymnastics.
You? What the hell is that? You call that ego? Where exactly am "I" in this complex body-mind confusion?
Mind, body, breath and feeling are ALL you are. The 4 faculties are the whole balll of wax. That's what the ego is. Can you be anything other than those 4 faculties?
Thinking,, believing, hoping, searching all that stuff we use to confirm the substantiality of "I".
Here's a koan: Imagin another primary color.
It is nonsense.
It is nonsense.
It is nonsense.