Last year I met this terrible fear. It was like I disapeared. There was no me, nothing to hang on to. I was terrified. I became depressed for a while. But "I" got over it. You have to experience the fear to get rid of that also. After that there is nothing standing in the way between illusory self and nothingness.. or.. your true beingness. I now see that I really didnt exist. There was no real identity, It was imagination. Now there is nothingness, conciousness, whatever you want to call it.
Losing identity means replacing it with another identity. Whether that's a spiritual one or not, you will still be a human being living in a world looking for meaning.
Once you see your true nature, you don't have to search for any meaning. The internal "game" of life is just done then, and you return back to who you actually are.
When adyashanti talks about us inventing a world of distractions a squirrel runs across the fence in the back ground to hammer home his point of distractions being everywhere. (2.45)
Don't take anyones words for granted! Only the Truth shall set you free! You can easily test if he's is actually experiencing "oneness". Next time you see him ask him everything about your childhood memories. If he is one with you, he will have your memories. If he can't answer then he is not one with everything/one, is he? Void is not a big deal. It is not oneness... If it was anybody who have experienced void would know everything you do and have experienced... Ask anybody who has been in void or is in the void about you. Test it. See for yourself. "If Light/Love is in your Heart, you will find your way home." ~ Rumi Did Adya has to connect to his soul first to become "One" or does he has no soul? Why he never talks about his or your soul, or Soul of the Souls? "If a man knows not his own soul, which is the nearest thing to him, what is the use of his claiming to know others?" ~ Sufi Saying 'You must marry your soul. That wedding is the way.' ~ Rumi "I am neither Christian nor Jew, neither Magian nor Muslim, I am not from east or west, not from land or sea. My place is placeless, my trace is traceless, no body, no soul, I am from the soul of souls." ~ Rumi "She breathes into my ear.. until my soul takes on her fragrance. She is the soul of my soul." ~ Rumi. "A sensible student does not depend on his teachers words, but uses his own experience to find the truth." ~ Bodhidharma Are you are sensible student or a sheep? Merry Christmas! ;o)
I can definately relate to what this guy is saying. The same thing happened to me. It felt like I was about to die but did not. I have not been the same since. It feels like hell on earth and downright terrifying. I can no longer cope.
I can relate only too well to his words. I had a terrifying drug experience five years ago and nothing has been the same since. I saw the illusion of a separate self and it was totally overwhelming. I have had many experiences of sheer terror and panic since and almost constant anxiety and depression. Thankfully with the help of powerful healers and a disciplined meditation and yoga regime I am in the process of freeing myself from the terror, although I do not know what the future holds.
@@ivogody F*ck all has changed. Things have actually gotten _worse,_ honestly. I am going for a breakthrough procedure for my OCD later this year, I hope it works. Addiction also massively complicated things. I have no career, no relationship, no nothing. If you want to progress along the path, don't get hooked on drugs by a horrendously irresponsible doctor, don't develop kundalini syndrome and don't have preexisting OCD. And don't believe in Adyashanti's promises of enlightenment being 'just around the corner'. It ain't.
@@ivogody No. I have a combination of very serious conditions that go far beyond what advice like Adyashanti's can help with, and the problem is that he doesn't offer much in the way of what to actually _do._ If you're feeling fear daily non-stop, you probably have an anxiety disorder. What I would recommend is to educate yourself on basic meditation practice with some clear instructions, and start with mindfulness of breathing, mindfulness of thoughts, feelings and physical sensations, basic grounding practice. A vigorous exercise routine is also an effective way to combat anxiety. Inquiring into the source of the fear etc. can be done after you have developed a basic practice, otherwise your attention will be too scattered for that to be effective. If the fear is disabling or interfering with work, then medication can be helpful, even very helpful if you find the right kind, although that can be like throwing mud at a wall to see what will stick until you find the right one. Whatever you do, DON'T take benzodiazepines (Xanax, Valium, Ativan etc. - anything with their official name ending in "-pam", because those are very addictive and what f*cked me up. Stick with antidepressants. They are not addictive. If you can afford it, something like neurofeedback can be much more effective much faster than meditation. Neuroscience and technology is really starting to impact the field of mental well-being, and NeurOptimal is a type of neurofeedback that is available pretty much everywhere in the world. Doing neurofeedback AND meditation, exercise etc. can be like compounding the effect of meditation. Depending on where you live or the coverage you have, something like ketamine therapy may be available. It's a legal and mellow psychedelic, and has helped me a lot and relieves anxiety.
@squamish4244 I've been in that limbo rut for some time and it just seems to get deeper. Can't relate to much of anything or anyone, and like you mentioned a feeling that everything you were used to as being "you" just keeps dissolving. There's a certain amount of trust in wherever this is going, but also so much resistance. I wish you well...and all others feeling a little in the dark.
@ncripzx Certain thoughts became prime triggers for these experiences, such as of Nazi death camps or other instances of human cruelty and degradation, or hospital scenes, or images of torture or tragic death. Such triggers would also bubble up frequently in meditation. They have become less frequent and less severe. In addition, being suddenly introduced to the reality of no-self through a terrifying drug trip was like throwing myself into the deep end of the pool before I knew how to swim.
There is no one who can reach awakening because Illusory self can not follow there. It will be left behind. And then when "you" watch that which you thought was you, you realize that there was no real identity there and the one watching this illusory identity is no one. It's like a death. A death of illusory self. What is left is Nothingness. If you feel a fear of this, then that is good. Because you have to experience the fear to get rid of it. This fear is a curtain blocking your true self.
i have looked in to face of chaos and seen the chaos and it is beliefs system like governments, religion,good or or bad ,laws and prison. love will show you the truth and the truth will set you free from beliefs.
@claudelebel55 me too! I just came across and I am so Grateful I did because I am experiencing this fear we are talking about. It feels very lonely when this is happening and I see my mind constantly wishing things where like they used to be in lala land, but then again its perfect that this is happening because I do want to live in that solid unmovable peace where I know my true and authentic self. Anything anyone would like to share with me I welcome! Thank you all
I think it is different for everyone. Some never do meditation, some meditate strictly for hours everyday, and then some do a little of both to reach it. I would say, just go your own way. Everyones path is unique anyway. If you want to try and meditate strictly, then try it. You want to try to do nothing?.. then do that. Follow that which you are naturally drawn to. Determination is very important. . And then again, Im noone special, just an ordinary guy. Like anyone here.
DMT bong hits has this. the "ego death" high. the "everything is oneness" trip. some hallaucingenics do this to you due to the intense pineal gland activation.
@asm1201 Do you see a way out of it? I do not want to go back either but I've put in a huge amount of work and seem to be stuck in a rut. It used to be terror now it's just depression and feeling blech. So many of the answers on here sound like cliched *I'm at peace with the universe* crap when really the people haven't experienced anything at all. I agree it is very lonely and my family can't possibly understand, they love me but treat me like a kid who talks nonsense and won't grow up.
@ncripzx Speaking from my own experience, when you start to gain insight into how the self is a mental construct, you have not made contact with your primordial being yet and can begin to feel like you're dying or dissolving, or may lose control of everything at any moment. In my own case I also became hypersensitive to my own and others' limitations and weaknesses. These experiences cause explosions of panic, where the mind literally goes crazy with terror and I feel that life is unbearable.
I'm thinking about learning from Adyashanti and buying "falling into grace". But I just wana know if being "enlightened" is truly better than anything else. cheers
@Atmaniceland 19 here and getting these weird feelings of non-self... of infinite being... feels like pure and utter freedom... then i struggle to get back there even tho i realise its only an instant away! grr lol
@squamish4244 im aware of the feeling of non-self and consciousness of who we truely are but what do you mean by experiences of sheer terror and panic...just interested in what causes it and where you were etc thanks
thanks for the replies, i dont know how to respond to that! But thanks anyhow. I mean i tend to go from things i have read. So there is what you say, but then there is the idea that you need to meditate for years in a cave in order to be enligtheneed. These two seem to be in direct opposition! Thats why it is a bit confusing. I.e. one way is kind of "you are already enlightened you dont ned to do anything", but then another path which says you need to work very hard to beomc enlightened.
it doesnt matter how much adyashanti i read i still cannot reach the level of awakening! Its not happening for me. even when i try to rest in not knowing i dont get clarity or peace.
so ego is an illusion. So there is another state of midn when you are actually seeing what is real. In this state what is it that you see? I am just questioning becvause i think i realise, the way everyone looks at the world is all illusory. but there must be some true way to look at the world. What is this truth?
Serious question: Y r people who are "enlightened" kinda look stoned? Like; they're eyes are always tired looking and they speak with a kind of lazy monotone? Would u say they look healthy? I don't want to offend anyone, I jst want to know if ther is a reason for this? Being enlightend means your happy doesn't it? At times when iv been at my happiest, I would have a massive smile on an "alive" looking face. Enlightened people don't look like that, but they are supposed 2 b happy? some1 plz reply
+optizap My godmother's dog actually has an ego-based identity! He usually lives in her house but sometimes she has a bad mood and puts him in his dog hotel apart from her house on the open air. Then when she brings him food he doesn't really want to eat, in fact he is not even coming out from his hotel! He's sittin' inside numb and angry with the protective behavior, refuses eating and so on! This type of protesting ends only when my godmother can't take it anymore and invites him back home again. After that he wears off his ego mask and becomes the person THAT HE REALLY IS IN HIS DEEP ESSENSE! So to say he is back to his realization as the egoless being! I assure U it is all true! No jokes!
@himynameisbede your judging judging judging brah... does it matter what people look like? I am sure they wouldn't want to be enlightened if it meant they would be sad lol
I'm now in that state where I realize my own unexistence as the separate being, but I still can't completely accept that, so yet the fear is there .
i love Adyashanti i love the level he talks on.
You have to be lost in order to find yourself again.. Don't fear hitting rock bottom
How are you now? No one ever updates on these comments, I worry that nobody's progressing.
Last year I met this terrible fear. It was like I disapeared. There was no me, nothing to hang on to. I was terrified. I became depressed for a while. But "I" got over it. You have to experience the fear to get rid of that also. After that there is nothing standing in the way between illusory self and nothingness.. or.. your true beingness. I now see that I really didnt exist. There was no real identity, It was imagination. Now there is nothingness, conciousness, whatever you want to call it.
How are you now??
I took notes and ended up writing down the whole interview! Adya, deep thanks for your clear wisdom.
So true. Thank you, Adyashanti, for sharing your insights. 🙏
Losing identity means replacing it with another identity. Whether that's a spiritual one or not, you will still be a human being living in a world looking for meaning.
Once you see your true nature, you don't have to search for any meaning. The internal "game" of life is just done then, and you return back to who you actually are.
I´ve felt so many times that i´m dying/losing my mind but i can´t help fighting it.
The key is in suffering for me. It give me the courage to fully enter the doorway.
LSD can help as well
Phoenix always rises from his own ashes
How’d you make out?
@@savannah6329 No one ever replies to these comments, because most of Adya's students never actually get anywhere.
When adyashanti talks about us inventing a world of distractions a squirrel runs across the fence in the back ground to hammer home his point of distractions being everywhere. (2.45)
kinda like waking up from sleep walking. Can freak you out. Suddenly reality isn't what you thought.
Don't take anyones words for granted! Only the Truth shall set you free!
You can easily test if he's is actually experiencing "oneness". Next time you see him ask him everything about your childhood memories. If he is one with you, he will have your memories. If he can't answer then he is not one with everything/one, is he?
Void is not a big deal. It is not oneness... If it was anybody who have experienced void would know everything you do and have experienced... Ask anybody who has been in void or is in the void about you. Test it. See for yourself.
"If Light/Love is in your Heart, you will find your way home." ~ Rumi
Did Adya has to connect to his soul first to become "One" or does he has no soul? Why he never talks about his or your soul, or Soul of the Souls?
"If a man knows not his own soul, which is the nearest thing to him, what is the
use of his claiming to know others?" ~ Sufi Saying
'You must marry your soul. That wedding is the way.' ~ Rumi
"I am neither Christian nor Jew, neither Magian nor Muslim, I am not from east or
west, not from land or sea. My place is placeless, my trace is traceless, no
body, no soul, I am from the soul of souls." ~ Rumi
"She breathes into my ear..
until my soul takes on her fragrance.
She is the soul of my soul." ~ Rumi.
"A sensible student does not depend on his teachers words, but uses his own experience to
find the truth." ~ Bodhidharma
Are you are sensible student or a sheep?
Merry Christmas! ;o)
I can definately relate to what this guy is saying. The same thing happened to me. It felt like I was about to die but did not. I have not been the same since. It feels like hell on earth and downright terrifying. I can no longer cope.
How are you?
How are you?
Psychedelics can really help one break through the identity of a seperate self. Atleast that's what i feel from my personal experiences.
the great fear of non existence
@himynameisbede Being enlightened is not better than anything else. It is the absence of "anything else", and everything else.
I can relate only too well to his words. I had a terrifying drug experience five years ago and nothing has been the same since. I saw the illusion of a separate self and it was totally overwhelming. I have had many experiences of sheer terror and panic since and almost constant anxiety and depression. Thankfully with the help of powerful healers and a disciplined meditation and yoga regime I am in the process of freeing myself from the terror, although I do not know what the future holds.
How are you
How are you now?
@@ivogody F*ck all has changed. Things have actually gotten _worse,_ honestly. I am going for a breakthrough procedure for my OCD later this year, I hope it works. Addiction also massively complicated things. I have no career, no relationship, no nothing.
If you want to progress along the path, don't get hooked on drugs by a horrendously irresponsible doctor, don't develop kundalini syndrome and don't have preexisting OCD.
And don't believe in Adyashanti's promises of enlightenment being 'just around the corner'. It ain't.
@@squamish4244 sad to hear that things gotten worse. Did the fear ever stop in these 13 years?? I am currently feeling fear daily non stop
@@ivogody No. I have a combination of very serious conditions that go far beyond what advice like Adyashanti's can help with, and the problem is that he doesn't offer much in the way of what to actually _do._
If you're feeling fear daily non-stop, you probably have an anxiety disorder. What I would recommend is to educate yourself on basic meditation practice with some clear instructions, and start with mindfulness of breathing, mindfulness of thoughts, feelings and physical sensations, basic grounding practice. A vigorous exercise routine is also an effective way to combat anxiety.
Inquiring into the source of the fear etc. can be done after you have developed a basic practice, otherwise your attention will be too scattered for that to be effective.
If the fear is disabling or interfering with work, then medication can be helpful, even very helpful if you find the right kind, although that can be like throwing mud at a wall to see what will stick until you find the right one. Whatever you do, DON'T take benzodiazepines (Xanax, Valium, Ativan etc. - anything with their official name ending in "-pam", because those are very addictive and what f*cked me up. Stick with antidepressants. They are not addictive.
If you can afford it, something like neurofeedback can be much more effective much faster than meditation. Neuroscience and technology is really starting to impact the field of mental well-being, and NeurOptimal is a type of neurofeedback that is available pretty much everywhere in the world. Doing neurofeedback AND meditation, exercise etc. can be like compounding the effect of meditation.
Depending on where you live or the coverage you have, something like ketamine therapy may be available. It's a legal and mellow psychedelic, and has helped me a lot and relieves anxiety.
Thank you for your wise and clear videos! :)
@squamish4244 I've been in that limbo rut for some time and it just seems to get deeper. Can't relate to much of anything or anyone, and like you mentioned a feeling that everything you were used to as being "you" just keeps dissolving. There's a certain amount of trust in wherever this is going, but also so much resistance. I wish you well...and all others feeling a little in the dark.
How are you?
How are you now?
@ncripzx Certain thoughts became prime triggers for these experiences, such as of Nazi death camps or other instances of human cruelty and degradation, or hospital scenes, or images of torture or tragic death. Such triggers would also bubble up frequently in meditation. They have become less frequent and less severe. In addition, being suddenly introduced to the reality of no-self through a terrifying drug trip was like throwing myself into the deep end of the pool before I knew how to swim.
There is no one who can reach awakening because Illusory self can not follow there. It will be left behind. And then when "you" watch that which you thought was you, you realize that there was no real identity there and the one watching this illusory identity is no one. It's like a death. A death of illusory self. What is left is Nothingness. If you feel a fear of this, then that is good. Because you have to experience the fear to get rid of it. This fear is a curtain blocking your true self.
i have looked in to face of chaos and seen the chaos and it is beliefs system like governments, religion,good or or bad ,laws and prison. love will show you the truth and the truth will set you free from beliefs.
@claudelebel55
me too! I just came across and I am so Grateful I did because I am experiencing this fear we are talking about. It feels very lonely when this is happening and I see my mind constantly wishing things where like they used to be in lala land, but then again its perfect that this is happening because I do want to live in that solid unmovable peace where I know my true and authentic self. Anything anyone would like to share with me I welcome!
Thank you all
I think it is different for everyone. Some never do meditation, some meditate strictly for hours everyday, and then some do a little of both to reach it. I would say, just go your own way. Everyones path is unique anyway. If you want to try and meditate strictly, then try it. You want to try to do nothing?.. then do that. Follow that which you are naturally drawn to. Determination is very important. . And then again, Im noone special, just an ordinary guy. Like anyone here.
Bloody nice shirt I have to say!😊
@Arashau How come when I realize that there is nothing, it is a frightening thought?
DMT bong hits has this. the "ego death" high.
the "everything is oneness" trip. some hallaucingenics do this to you due to the intense pineal gland activation.
Sometimes I get this thought when I let go of me, i feel like im gonna wake up now or disappear, it's strange feeling.
@asm1201 Do you see a way out of it? I do not want to go back either but I've put in a huge amount of work and seem to be stuck in a rut. It used to be terror now it's just depression and feeling blech. So many of the answers on here sound like cliched *I'm at peace with the universe* crap when really the people haven't experienced anything at all. I agree it is very lonely and my family can't possibly understand, they love me but treat me like a kid who talks nonsense and won't grow up.
I hope I know what I'm doing
@ncripzx Speaking from my own experience, when you start to gain insight into how the self is a mental construct, you have not made contact with your primordial being yet and can begin to feel like you're dying or dissolving, or may lose control of everything at any moment. In my own case I also became hypersensitive to my own and others' limitations and weaknesses. These experiences cause explosions of panic, where the mind literally goes crazy with terror and I feel that life is unbearable.
I relate to this alot. The hypersensitivity
How are you now?
@vetiarvind does the feeling of no-self just last while on the drug or even after?
ok thanks for reply. I think i see what you mean.
thank you!
I'm thinking about learning from Adyashanti and buying "falling into grace". But I just wana know if being "enlightened" is truly better than anything else. cheers
@Atmaniceland 19 here and getting these weird feelings of non-self... of infinite being... feels like pure and utter freedom... then i struggle to get back there even tho i realise its only an instant away! grr lol
@squamish4244 im aware of the feeling of non-self and consciousness of who we truely are but what do you mean by experiences of sheer terror and panic...just interested in what causes it and where you were etc thanks
2:45 - critter cameo !!!!
thanks for the replies, i dont know how to respond to that! But thanks anyhow. I mean i tend to go from things i have read. So there is what you say, but then there is the idea that you need to meditate for years in a cave in order to be enligtheneed. These two seem to be in direct opposition! Thats why it is a bit confusing.
I.e. one way is kind of "you are already enlightened you dont ned to do anything", but then another path which says you need to work very hard to beomc enlightened.
@himynameisbede because the ego wants to be something.. is not comfortable with the thought of not existing
is the path which says you need to meditate and work hard to become enlightened, is that untrue?
it doesnt matter how much adyashanti i read i still cannot reach the level of awakening! Its not happening for me.
even when i try to rest in not knowing i dont get clarity or peace.
so ego is an illusion. So there is another state of midn when you are actually seeing what is real. In this state what is it that you see? I am just questioning becvause i think i realise, the way everyone looks at the world is all illusory. but there must be some true way to look at the world.
What is this truth?
hmm i am not that smart when it comes to this kind of stuff but thanks for reply.
Serious question: Y r people who are "enlightened" kinda look stoned? Like; they're eyes are always tired looking and they speak with a kind of lazy monotone? Would u say they look healthy? I don't want to offend anyone, I jst want to know if ther is a reason for this? Being enlightend means your happy doesn't it? At times when iv been at my happiest, I would have a massive smile on an "alive" looking face. Enlightened people don't look like that, but they are supposed 2 b happy? some1 plz reply
single teachers like ramana maharshi, jesus and shirdi sai baba are greater teachers unlike married men right?
Do animals have a sense of identity ? Maybe that is just how they copy humans ?
+optizap My godmother's dog actually has an ego-based identity! He usually lives in her house but sometimes she has a bad mood and puts him in his dog hotel apart from her house on the open air. Then when she brings him food he doesn't really want to eat, in fact he is not even coming out from his hotel! He's sittin' inside numb and angry with the protective behavior, refuses eating and so on! This type of protesting ends only when my godmother can't take it anymore and invites him back home again. After that he wears off his ego mask and becomes the person THAT HE REALLY IS IN HIS DEEP ESSENSE! So to say he is back to his realization as the egoless being! I assure U it is all true! No jokes!
@valzer84 Do you get annoyed at the cliched spiritual answers by the people on here? They all seem to be on the verge of enlightenment.
@modelchic99 If you are serious, then reply to this. I know people who can help and they operate outside of the traditional medical system.
@ncripzx It doesn't last.
02.03.24
@ncripzx Are you enlightened? I don't think that your the kind of person I was looking to answer my question... And who ever said I was judging?
@himynameisbede your judging judging judging brah... does it matter what people look like? I am sure they wouldn't want to be enlightened if it meant they would be sad lol
@squamish4244 sadface:(
wrong, teaching and being married to someone think about that too much tv your deluded
the great fear of non existence