Kimberly is already on the route 23 list. When they start discussing how they are connected she mentions catching a news story about Tod's death so she isn't there to die with her mother.
Yea, I came here to say this. I think you swapped Kimberly with Evan Lewis. We don’t know what caused Evan to skip not dying the first time, if he even was impacted by any of the flight 180 survivors.
There is also a newspaper clipping in FD3 during the choose the fate mode, that explains Kimberly and that police officer were killed. I believe a woodchipper.
I can just imagine Death trying to finish up the Bridge List, then seeing the kids get off Flight 180 and just throwing his hands up in frustration. "I was just finishing up the last problem!"
Death waiting for the plane to explode in the waiting area as all those kids get pulled off throws up his hands "OMG more bloody survivors I have so much work to catch up on"
Would explain why the 'second' deaths are so much crueler than the original ones. I whould be angry, too. Like, I'm not even get paid for this crap. Fork this!
@@zul6227 those people are like an automatic death, the survivors are basically death using her own hands to do the job because someone else fucked up the schedule
I can relate to Death here. It made a tiny little error, and every time it tries to fix it, it accidentally causes more errors in an escalating conga-line of paperwork.
Now all I can picture in every scene is Death just clutching his head and getting frustrated at the paperwork he’ll have to do in addition to trying to fix his mess up.
Would be cool if he has elements of the dude from the comic, maybe he gets the same premonitions all of our protagonists get and he does what he can to help
I think that he was a clairvoyant and survived a disaster and found a way to stop death for real unlike all of the other occurrences. I think it was the same method used in the alternative ending to the first movie where they broke the chain and also created new life that was not meant to be born. That was too much for death that time and death actually gave up for real. Unlike that stupid fake outs in all the other movies (except for 2 because the plot twist that the baby was going to be born the whole time was actually really clever)
I think he might already controlled his sixth senses to the point he can dodge easily his death or he is death personified got bored and giving a chance to those who should have died to survive.
I like the idea that he doesn’t have it all figured out, but he’s studying Death. He can’t help those on Death’s list, but he tried. Maybe he can prevent others from getting on its list; prevent greater disasters. He seems to know that the diversion of one list coming full circle leads to an even greater disaster… but it’s full of people who had cheated death. So, it’s not really a freak tragedy. But the less tragedies there are, the less people get on Death’s list early.
My theory of the 'Death's List' phenomenon is that Death gets fed-up with people getting lucky in avoiding him through small attempts, so he just has this big accident to cut all loopholes. But this effort to directly kill creates premonitioners.
Thats very interesting. Within the world of Final Destination, the premonitions and why the main characters had them remains unexplained. But then again, Death should know by now that big accident means premonition, means another list. Which is a hassle. Man, deaths job is shite.
Right. I mean, it's kinda like worker trying to correct some sort of mistake by cutting corner on projects. Death should be more pro-active and dunno, pose as a bounty hunter, and then fight his target as a giant wolf using sickles or some shit, dunno, random thought
I always saw it as a sort of game between outer entities. Death gambling with another power. The power provides visions and Death rounds them back up. Or it's literally all designed by Death and he just occasionally gives people visions to then kill off the survivors in outlandish ways to highlight the inevitability and the all-encompassing nature of death in a world that aims to live longer and longer with each invention and improvement to health care etc.
If Grim Reaper *physically* appeared for the first time in Final Destination, then that might be closest thing we got to a live-action adaptation of _Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy._
My main theory for the final destination is that bloodworth is the original grim reaper from the older stories that got replaced by a new grim reaper which is why he knows how to survive death and tries to save the clairvoyant people so he can become death once again
I've always thought bloodwork was death but just sort of like to play with his food so to speak. Whenever he comes across clairvoyants he can give you clues on how to survive but ultimately he will take everyone in the end.
The alternate ending to the first movie was so much better and gave Clear a better character arc. She and Alex conceive a child that night on the beach and Alex ends up dying to save her in the storm. Death eventually allows Clear to live in a beautiful scene where she delivers the child at exactly 9:25 PM, the same time flight 180 would have taken off and the same seat Alex was supposed to sit, row 9 seat 25.
So if you stay with him very close you probably won't die? Wow i like and curious about my theory. What happens really? you never left his house and sleep in the same bed at night lol. Make bludworth is your guardian angel.
I like that idea because you can see his advice coming from either a place of spite towards humanity, just trying to make the survivors piss off death more so they die in even more gruesome manners, or from a place of compassion, just trying to help the humans he once despised, even if it isn't entirely successful.
My Theory-I think Alex was the Flight 180 survivor that intervened for Evan. Reasoning: both are young men who were originally going to be burned before passing in premonitions but both passed from head injuries probably for Death to finish them off quicker. Evan likely saw Alex get hit by the brick in an alley and this caused a ripple. If you pause the scene in Evan’s apartment you can see he liked race cars. My theory is that after Evan saw Alex get hit with the brick, Evan was shaken and decided to cancel plans with his roomate/ friends at a rickety racetrack in New York and save up for a nice car of his own. This was a safer way to have his dream, saved his life but also is why when he won the lottery the first thing he bought was his new car with flames.
Final Destination 3 was my favorite, and I loved Ian bc he really thought part of Death's plan was for him to kill the others but then died. Almost as if Death was like "hell nah, you weren't even suppose to live- BAM!" and then killed him.
Buy the choose their fate version. You can chose nearly all the "one or the other" choices in the movie and weather Ian jumps left or right is an option, one result is the origianl movie continues the other is pretty epic. Saving frankie is an option and the list goes on.
I used to be a huge fan of Final Destination and researched every possible piece of media and always tried to find even the most minor of details, the series has always fascinated me with such a simple yet complex permise
I feel like the reason death became a physical appearance because he was annoyed and just said screw it and gave one of the victims a deal they would love
After reading the books I really hope we eventually get a movie that reveals Death is having a cosmic office war with Life because she keeps messing with his work schedule. If they ever cast Death I really hope they get Keith David to do the job, I can imagine no one better for the role. Would be cool if the other reveal is that Bludworth has been an assistant for Life and Death from like way back in the 1800s.
@@MistySophie Some people think so. I am still trying to figure out what makes the most sense as to why people get visions. It would make sense if it was Life but it could also be Death fighting back to keep his design in check. So like a back and forth between the two.
Final destination is extremely unrealistic so you don't need to worry about that. The only thing you can take away is that death is inevitable so you should live every single day of your life like it's your last. Memento mori.
I'd love to see a Final Destination movie from Death's POV. It would be hilarious to see Death try to find new ways to still get the survivors' souls and just being SO DONE with the job. I imagine it would be like some kind of unwanted overtime?
Also worth noting: the death count listed doesn’t necessarily count folks that died in the books consequently because of death taking out someone who WAS on its primary list. Rose’s botched liposuction unfortunately results in the nurse dying as well. When the leaking nitrous oxide incapacitated the surgeon and the nurse, the nurse hits her head on the table and dies. Which really made me wonder if the nurse was intended to die in that way all along.
I have a few theories about William Bloodworth: 1) He was on deaths list, but got an offer like Sherry and fullfiled his end of the bargain 2) He is still on deaths list, but he's gotten so good at avoiding it that he can live a normal life 3) He found some sort of loophole that took him off of deaths list permanently, inadvertently making him immortal 4) He is a Grim Reaper or some kind of spirit or Undertaker or something like that who works for death, but takes pity on certain people who cheat death and warns them that they aren't out of the woods yet
Not immortal but he always says new life, both fd5 and fd2 proved that to be true, The dvd deleted scene of fd2 having no survivors is not canon,the books confirm that, So the only survivors found some form of new life, FD2 had a second premonition about the way to get new life, and we know the premonitions are reliable So no reason to believe she died, She probably in her version got a re design of her life, We also know she truly survived because death moved on way past her and got the kid at the barbecue, the woodchipper news was obviously a joke and read like a joke if you read the paper. So he either has New life, or Is death He even says "ill see you soon"
One of mine is that he’s a fallen angel who’s condemned to live on earth as a coroner for the rest of eternity and that’s why he warns people after a premonition comes true to let them know by basically saying that they’re not out of the woods yet.
From the way it's explained in the movie, I think that Nora, Tim, Evan and Kimberly's friends Shauna, Dano and Frankie were always meant to die on the route 23 pile-up. The other survivors (Kat, Rory, Eugene, Thomas and Kimberly) were simply added to this list after the interference from Alex and the flight 180 survivors. That's the reason the list was backwards, since it was conpleting the original list and moved on to the added people. Also, Todd's death news actually prevented Kimberly, not Evan, from being killed prior.
There is no list. The order doesn’t matter. Its not about saving the other survivors. The premonition sight is not supposed to help you save the other survivors and yourself, that’s what ALL the main characters get wrong. Death gives you the premonition to make you kill all the other survivors, save yourself and become death servant. That’s what the black guy did. It goes against your nature, you literally have to become death itself to survive the game.
That is a possibility, but I think Tim and Nora was still saved at one point and whatever disaster that was suppose to kill them killed Tim's father/Nora's husband because if you remember in the 2nd movie Nora mention her husband being dead but not how.
Ik I'm a year late but some things about the novels and Spring Break: • Final Destination Zero actually does have a date recorded it takes place April 2005. • Final Destination dead reckoning takes place June 2004 (Eric Prescott dies a month after Ben's death so he dies in July) • Final Destination Spring Break actually doesn't have a date(although I personally think it happened in 2003) Edit: Another thing to add is that Juliet Collins from the start of the video is Patti Fuller's Great Grandmother.
I can just see Death checking off his list and right as he gets to the last person, he sees those 9 people get off Flight 180 so he just quits and the boss Reaper grabs his scythe and is like “fine. I’ll do it myself.”
In Sam's premonition he was cut in half, in Alex's premonition he died on the plane. If put the pieces together you find out that Molly dies how Sam died in the premonition and Sam dies in the same way Alex did
I actually feel bad for Death. All he is doing is keeping the balance of life and death in order. He is just doing his job. Plus, they never establish if he takes sadistic joy in what he is doing
I'd like to add. The reason Molly died (even though she wasn't in the Bridge Collapse list) was because she was actually meant to die by Peter during the kitchen scene but was soon interfered by Sam which unknowingly added her to the death list Also, Sam was supposed to die before Molly but they switched places last minute. Hence, Molly's death was similar to Sam's (in the premonition) where she was cut in half
I think The idea of Angels of Death would work here. It would explain how Bludwurth knows about so many rules and possible theories despite only witnessing one incident as far as we know. It would also explain the "Fake Death" guy from the book with the malibu boat. I think if you cheat death, one of two things happen: Either death sends one of it's angels out to collect the due(most of the minor accidents like the tanning bed and elevator), or if you really pissed them off Death itself comes out(mostly for the major accidents like Volee Flight 180, the Bridge Collapse, and the massive fire that's gonna happen in FD6). To collect the due is the angels job, and one of those angels was sent to that model chick, under the name of death. Hell, it might've been Bludwurth since you described the man as being an "old black man", which Tony Todd absolutely is at this point. So I think it was actually a few angels of death working on killing off the survivors. Death makes the list, but the angels have to cross the names out. Just a theory.
I'm pretty sure Todd extended Kimberlys death since she got caught up watching it on the news at the mall, where her mother was shot and killed by car-jackers.
Question: What do you think are the Visions? I mean, their results are way too inefficient to be send by an benelovent being - and its really obvious that Death does not send them himself; i find it actually pretty weird how some Fans assume this. I always assumed it was a glitch and 'just something that sometimes happens', and i stand to that.
It's the 'Cassandra Effect'. Especially in Wendy's case. Outrunning death was never the end goal. Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up. By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!? She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister. This concept is not new. Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'. The Old Testament has (H)ijob. Goethe created Faust. Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
I made a list on who I think is the most powerful visionary from each movie 1. Nick (FD4, had visions for each death and 2 major disasters) 2. Wendy (FD3, 2 major disasters) 3. Kimberly (FD2, saw clues in reflection and glimpses into the future of her drowning in an ambulance) 4. Alex (FD1, like Kimberly, he saw clues in reflections 5. Sam (FD5, only saw the bridge collapse)
These are the notes I have made about the character of Death: It is an entity, not death itself. As we see pieces of it. Skeletal like arms in Final Destination 2 and a smoke like form in Final Destination. With how it acts and the rules that it abides by for the most part, shows not only is it an entity, but it is an evil entity. The premonitions are caused by something that does not want to see Death succeed in its soul eating since that is not normal and those who are killed by Death in the accidents and the survivors, do not go to heaven or hell but are collected or consumed by this malevolent being. It reminds me a lot of Death from Castlevania: It feeds on the souls as the people from it's list die. It consumes them with their last breath, essentially eating their death. It enjoys what it does to the extent to where it has no problems causing a huge accident in order to have a big meal. Whenever someone escapes, it feels robbed of its meal and goes after those who escape. Wanting to satisfy its hunger. It eats it's fill and hides. Hence the time gaps at the end of the movies. It draws up a list for a meal, and should anyone avoid their death, Death will become enraged but patiently wait before picking them off fast and at unsuspecting times. If it was death and not Death, there would be no premonitions, since it would be natural. No cat and mouse game and no rules. death doesn't need a thing to cause it. You could trip over your own feet and break your neck or drown while taking a drink of water. Whereas Death needs to use the environment to kill for it as it has rules and cannot just make people drop dead or anything. Hence the environmental ways of every character's death. The whole "Only new life can defeat Death" makes sense in this way as well. Since the unborn child of a survivor who was not pregnant at the time of the disaster is inside a female survivor, that essentially destroys the design and Death is forced to release those who were still alive on its list despite not wanting that. And it would explain why nothing else works. If you steal someone else's life, you are still on the list. So the "exchange" is something Death can ignore and use as a loophole to gain additional victims it was never meant to have. And we see that Death has no problems cheating the system from time to time, hence the ending of Final Destination 3 and the theater vision in The Final Destination and to an extent the ending of Final Destination 5. Cheating the system by making a new list and adding the previous survivors if they did not erase their names from the list. Bloodworth could also be one who knows what's really going on as he had been studying Death. His backstory and how he knows New life can defeat Death could be because of his own mother. Maybe he was a child that was never meant to be. So he studied Death and wants to find any and all weaknesses and find a way to destroy it. The reason he hesitates to help others is because he doesn't want to end up on the list due to being near the marked victims. He helps Kimberly because he wants to see if what his mother told him was true, and anyone else he tried to help with that, never was able to succeed. So he almost gave up. Kimberly's pleading gave him reason to at least try one last time. I would LOVE to see a Final Destination movie explore all that more. Especially since originally it was meant to be an X Files episode.
With the direction that the Final Destination series is going, I can't help but think that the chosen victim who receives the premonition to avoid Death doesn't have the vision to save everyone; I think Death sent the premonition so that the said character, and others who survive think they're safe so that he could toy with them before killing them. I think the Final Destination series is Death playing games with the victims.
Fd4 basically confirmed this, with that scene at the end "What if all this was because we're meant to be here?" (Cue dump truck to the face) Basically death allows these people to "escape" so it can hunt them for sport later. It's basically a cat torturing a mouse.
Imagine having to kill people with tiny tweaks to the environment and your victims own mistakes. If you think about it, Death probably always has to deal with these situations just because it is really limited in its ability to effect anything on our side of the veil. Usually by causing tiny water leak somewhere it would cause chaos, a small but important fastener to come loose, affecting the flight of random piece of scrap metal blown off the train tracks etc.
I imagine Death watching his carefully planned accident failing cause of one asshole with a vision every single time and he just stares for a moment and goes: for f*ck sake! 😠
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@@craftingranger7552 True but I think it’s even weirder that Sam didn’t get the same vision Alex did. Even Wendy got a vision of the subway accident (though she couldn’t change it.)
It's human nature. Ignorance/ Not knowing is bliss. Otherwise it would drive people insane or make them sick. You can't outrun death. You can delude yourself in thinking that you can hide from it, like Clair did. But it was just part of the new plan, nothing more. When 'death' wants you out, you will be out. The building collapsing, a plane malfunctioning, tick bite, a virus, an artery in your brain bursting ... Clair was never safe. Especially Greek Mythology is full of bored & cruel deities playing with human beings. The most interesting story in the Old Testament is the one about (H)Ijob. Probably inspired Goethe to create Faust. MEMENTO MORI & CARPE DIEM Don't waste your time with running away. Stay and make your peace with all that 'unfinished business' you still have. I personally would choose the 'Angriest Man in Brooklyn' path. People I love and respect already know that I care deeply about them. I treat those people like, it's the last time we will ever see eachother. That's why I would use my last hours on earth to insult all the people I dislike and beat the crap out of those I hate. Ultimate goal: Take down some really nasty psychos. Make the world a little better before I leave for good.
@@ri210 ikr so Wendy could have two premonitions but not Sam? I actually don’t mind too much because it made for a fantastic ending. And I guess Sam just didn’t think much of it because he might’ve thought he was the only person in the world who could have those visions.
One thing to consider is that for the movie Final Destination 3 there is a special that lets you make various choices for the film and if you choose the right one only four people survive and two are completely different from the list in the move. I think Death can intervene with a significant change, but with a smaller change the alteration might fall within an acceptable range, like with Clear and that lets them live. Though that might be considered non-canon it's an interesting thought, that there is an acceptable range or impact that allows a list ignored.
There is a chance that Evan Lewis, Tim, and Nora Carpenter were not put on death's list due to flight 180, it could be that the pile up was meant for the other survivors (Kat, Eugene, Kimberly, Rory, and Burke), and they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time
I like to think Evan got added to the list after he got into a fight with Alex for hitting on Clear, delaying him enough to avoid whatever was meant to cause his death. Sort of how Carter and Tod's deaths indirectly saved Rory and Kimberly
"wrong place at the wrong time" kind of beats the purpose of the franchise, since it's basically saying there is no coincidence, it's always at the right place at the right time
@@laklompdying a brutal death in a highway pileup might be the right place and time in the great cosmos but it sure is wrong place and wrong time for the person dying that way lmao
Nadia from The Final Destination seems to be one of the only ones who died how they were meant to Clear also died from a fire explosion and she might’ve originally died that way from flight 180
I think death was doing his list in reverse because clear was still alive. Death couldn't kill the first person in the list (clear), so he started with the last
Question: What do you think are the Visions? I mean, their results are way too inefficient to be send by an benelovent being - and its really obvious that Death does not send them himself; i find it actually pretty weird how some Fans assume this. I always assumed it was a glitch and 'just something that sometimes happens', and i stand to that.
It's the 'Cassandra Effect'. Especially in Wendy's case. Outrunning death was never the end goal. Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up. By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!? She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister. This concept is not new. Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'. The Old Testament has (H)ijob. Goethe created Faust. Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
This reminds me of Amy and Sheldon. Amy trying to help Sheldon to get over his OCDs. We know how that one ended. Every movie introduces it's own new concept or rules, but at the end ... nobody can outrun death and they are wasting precious time. Especially in Wendy's case. Outrunning death or hiding from it like Clear was never the end goal. Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up. By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!? She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister. This concept is not new. Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'. The Old Testament has (H)ijob. Goethe created Faust. Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
One thing that I find so cool about this series is that the first movies disaster is actually set on the day I was conceived, which was also the day before my mum's birthday too! I was born on February the 5th 2001 😊
Timestamps for each Final Destination Series 0:01 Number 4 Mornington Crescent 2:17 The Collapse Of Club Kitty 3:00 The South Hill Metroline 3:48 Thirty-second Street Train Crash 6:05 Merlin's Tower Elevator Collapses 8:01 The Sacrifice And Other Disasters 9:18 The North Bay Bridge Collapse 11:09 Volee Flight 180 13:39 The Phenomenon 16:34 The Hotel Grand Tzolk' in Explosion 17:49 The Lakeview Fire & Route 23 Pile-up 21:32 Death Of The Senses 22:44 Coral Clipper & Devil's Flight Crashes 27:00 The Megatech 300 28:19 Kill Count & Analysis Edit: I know there is a Auto Generated Timestamp please don't remind me 5:05 Hunt A Killer AD Part 1 12:47 Hunt A Killer AD Part 2 North Bay Bridge Collapse Candice Hooper - Victim Isaac Palmer - Victim Olivia Castle - Victim Roy Carson - Victim Dennis Lapman - Victim Peter Fredkin - Victim Sam Lawton - Victim Molly Harper - Victim Nathan Sears - Victim Flight 180 Tod Waggner - Victim Terry Chaney - Victim Valerie Lewton - Victim Carter Horton - Victim Billy Hitchcock - Victim Clear Rivers - Victim Alex Browning - Victim Route 23 & The Lakeview Fire Evan Lewis - Victim Kat Jennings - Victim Thomas Burke - Survivor Eugene Dix - Victim Tim Carpenter - Victim Nora Carpenter - Victim Rory Peters - Victim Kimberly Corman - Survivor Brian Gibbons - Victim Devil's Flight Ashley Freund - Victim Ashley Halperin - Victim Frankie Cheeks - Victim Lewis Romero - Victim Erin Ulmer - Victim Perry Malinowski - Victim Ian McKinley - Victim Wendy Christensen - her fate is unknown Kevin Fischer - his fate is also unknown Julie Christensen - her fate is unknown Megatech 300 Nadia Monroy - Victim Carter Daniels - Victim Samantha Lane - Victim Andy Kewzer - Victim Janet Cunningham - Victim Hunt Wynorski - Victim Jonathan Groves - Victim George Lanter - Victim Nick O'Bannon - Victim Lori Milligan - Victim
@@sirtofbaggins4270 agreed. Death was working out his new mental multilayered trap and just thinks fuck it this'll never work and just lobs a brick at him. Or maybe he had just survived another attempt to kill him without even noticing. Death kicks the wall in frustration and the brick just fell
@sekaihatsu the brick isna very effective killing tool. In fact, if death wants to kill people quickly, just use vehicles. Its quick, clean, and a hell of a lot less messier.
Also notice how Bloodworth is looking around during five when he’s talking with them. Looks like he’s already caught on to something, or he using his clairvoyant abilities to dodge something
My question is - does death give the survivors the vision to play a game of cat and mouse, or is there another entire at work trying to save them, but can only do it once?
The vision is to change ur fate without changing the fate of the individual who's being targeted.. Because death was writing wrongs they just kept making it more wrong. So the cycle just kept repeating and claiming more people. If you was not supposed to die, and DEATH is planning to kill someone near you by changing the events. Someone who was not supposed to die that day in that moment will get a premonition, To save themselves they are not supposed to save others because THEY are supposed to die. It's how he designed it if it makes sense.. Okay u know how a plan or a bus crashes and not EVERYONE dies? And your shocked people survive and they have this crazy survivor story!? It's like that, They was not meant to die there everyone else however was.. Just how things worked out. But what happens if someone who was supposed to die gets saved by someone having a vision... Then death is being cheated right? Boom there you go u have Final Destination so now DEATH is going to fix these little errors in his system.
I’ve always wondered this as well! Or are the premonitions inadvertently caused by an initial incident where deaths plan was thwarted by complete mistake?
Ive actually seen this theory floated around as well. Bloodwurth or perhaps someone else is actually "Death". They like messing with people. So they setup events and then sees what the survivors do. This ties in with the "rules" since he is actually the one making them up. And this way he can insert himself in the drama. This would also tie up the phone call and the deal as it is just an extention of what has gone before. How much can this entity push the people its playing with. This could mean its not actually Death itself but another Entity. Also Clear isbexplained because her locking herself up in the asylum means its no fun or no challenge. And that could also explain why it like to go grand and wrap up while lists at a time on occasion or just move on from people. Its attention get diverted or moved on.
That's how i see it: events can branch into infinite paths, leading to infinite possible outcomes, randomness does actually exist, as proven by quantum mechanics; but some powerful entity wants to control events and herd them into a predetermined line. Somehow, probably due to said randomness, an individual gets to experience a possible event before it actually happens, this messes the predetermined line, and the entity is forced to directly intervene and put back everything on track. This happens with any kind of event, but we only pay attention to deaths because it attracts more attention. Cases where people win litteries only to lose everything shortly after are a perfect example of such "restructurings".
So, strangely enough, the only characters that remain unkilled on screen or off screen are Wendy and the other 2. At the end of FD3 is implied she cant get out of the metro, bit still, why having a vision if she couldnt use it to survive?
It would be an amazing twist in the future of this series to reveal that the person giving people visions is some form of the Norse God Loki, he's not actually trying to help them but is in fact just causing mischief for death by ruining his kills hence why the entity gives them visions but never enough info that the victims end up surviving indefinitely without outside help
It's the 'Cassandra Effect'. Especially in Wendy's case. Outrunning death was never the end goal. Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up. By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!? She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister. This concept is not new. Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'. The Old Testament has (H)ijob. Goethe created Faust. Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
Different mythos interacting I love it I want a scene where Death comes to the physical world, drags Loki by the ear behind a building and just beats the shit out of him for doing this shit to them *again* lol
This is honestly so well done. I haven’t seen a comprehensive wrap-up of the Final Destination series that is this high quality (even though I know that this is the History of Death, it’s essentially just a wrap-up of the series in relation to death). Absolutely love this :)
Can we talk about Molly though, from FD5, her situation is so interesting. She wasn't supposed to die in the bridge collapse and then her character was all over the place getting intertwined with the deaths of so many characters.
It's only assumed she wasn't meant to die in the bridge collapse. It could be that she was going to die right after her boyfriend. The premonition ends after his death, so we don't know what would have happened after he died. For all we know, something may have pushed her off the bridge immediately following his death.
@@spooniejusticewarrior true yeah, but I'm more interested in how she fits into the overall death's list and how her turn was affected by other's "turn/time to die." Her situation just seems so confusing to me
In F.D. II they introduce the concept of death being 'contagious'. It's like throwing a stone in the water. The ripple effect changes everything and everybody around you. You are an abnormality/a paradox, something that shouldn't exist to begin with. Like, when you are no longer part of the jigsaw puzzle, that means you are claiming space that doesn't belong to you anymore. There is a novel by Gemma Maley. Human kind finds a cure for 'death'. To prevent overpopulation creating kids is no longer allowed. One out, one in. Parents or somebody else needs to die, so that those 'illegal' kids can live. Was reminded of the novel whenever John Oliver made fun of Fox News for throwing shade at Greta Thunberg.
@@zixen4480 no because peter was supposed to be killed on the bridge collapse so it was never deaths plan to have peter kill her, she didnt cheat death
Every time I see Bludworth he reminds me a lot of the Character Candyman that Tiny Todd played in the 90's, I wonder if he drew some inspiration from his old character
Seeing this makes me think that Death kinda likes to play games with Bludworth, to see if he is capable of catching up to her. At the end Death always wins, but having someone tracking her must be "thrilling" for Death. I could be completely wrong of course, it's just fun to think about
I like it. Makes it look like accidents, even cleans up the area to fake a suicide and Bludworth is like "I see you..." Makes you wonder if they ever get together for a drink to compare notes on recent deaths.
@ THAT KID Whatever or whoever is killing these people is very cruel. Like you said, a bursting artery in their brains would be more than enough. These 'games' pretty much scream: Bored and cruel deity! The same happens to Cassandra. She has visions, but nobody believes her and she is unable to change anything. After the 3. movie I stopped caring all together. Why not use that 'extra' time to make your peace with unfinished business!? Wendy becomes a better person by trying to save other people - showing that she cares. Even manages to fix her relationship with her little sister. I don't believe in Sky Fairies or in any kind of propaganda psychotic scum is enforcing on others. But I really wish people will still think of me as decent and compassionate. Never cared about fame or money, being trusted and respected let's you sleep better. MY NAME IS EARL SEASON 4 EPISODE 18
A VERY watered down version of Final Destination happened to me. I got COVID in February and I was completely isolated. As such, my sleep schedule was completely random and I wound up making Mac and cheese at 2am one day. One of my close friends had just woken from a dream in which my apartment caught fire while I was cooking. She apparently had a similar dream about her sister before she was in a car accident (she’s fine). My friend was freaking out so she called me and asked me to get out of the house. I’m not a superstitious person so I didn’t listen. While I was on the phone with her, the stove caught fire; apparently my roommate had made food earlier and some of it fell into the burner that I couldn’t see and ignited. Everything was fine, there wasn’t even any property damage, but a weird coincidence all the same
That's good that you shrugged it off. If you had walked off the house her premonition would became real. Since there would be nobody there to stop the fire
Loved this! I've been waiting for someone to connect the dots. I think there have been ripples for generations that causes premonitions due to death trying to close the loop.
Oh thats a cool thing like Death allowed somebody to be revived to help kill her brother. Death can work in mysterious ways and does a 180 to correct deaths that should of happened
Also would molly of died on flight 180 if Sam didn't have a vision previously. Cause in Sams vision molly survived anyway. Would death still got her on flight 180 or would of died at some other point. Also that comic between 1 and 2 is interesting because it shows even death needs a holiday
Molly was placed on Death's list when Sam saved her from being killed by Peter. Peter was safe from Death because he had taken Agent Block's life, but Sam was still on the list, so his action to save Molly works the same way as the victims of FD2 were saved though the action of the Flight 180 survivors. If Sam and Peter had died on the bridge, Molly would have lived much longer.
It's the 'Cassandra Effect'. Especially in Wendy's case. Outrunning death was never the end goal. Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up. By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!? She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister. This concept is not new. Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'. The Old Testament has (H)ijob. Goethe created Faust. Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
So in Final Destination 2 the lives of the cast are extended due to the cast of the first movie, so when Nick saves a whole movie theater from exploding after he had a vision in the 4th film, does that mean everyone in that theater is now on Death's list?
@@CZsWorld There actually 2 people that survive the entire series, Kimberly and Officer Burke, and yes I know the whole woodchipper thing in 3, but the film makers have said that was a "what if" bonus feature and deemed not canon to the movies. so Kimberly and Officer Burke lived.
Fun fact, the “northbay bridge” is played by the bridge in my home town. And let me tell you, after that film came out. A TON of people were antsy about crossing it for months 😂
if anyone is interested The 80's slasher library has covered death of the senses, dead reckoning, looks could kill, dead mans hand and also the novalized version of Final Destination 3 (which has a lot of differences but there's no subway crash since the novel is based of the original script) if anyone hasn't checked em out you guys totally should! he's a good narrator and plans to cover all the novels :D
"Matt's abs are not strong enough to stand up to fireworks."... I would say something about how gym work is important but then again that didn't help Lewis Romero in FD3.
I am reading through dead mans hand atm (the book with the elevator detachment) and it's interesting just how aggressive death is in this book so far. Right after everyone but allie (the woman who had the premonition) gets out, the elevator closes as allie leaves,it sandwiches her and almost kills her. Death instantly tried to kill her before her vision even came true. Later on It made traffic lights fall into the van all the survivors were in, and had the dismembered drivers foot stay on the gas pedal and allie sees the steering wheel moves itself, death was literally driving the van.
Looks Could Kill also contains a photographic clue: At the funeral held for Shiraz, a Mr Federman warns the survivors from the Coral Clipper disaster that the "shadow of Death" has fallen over them, meaning that they will die soon. Rose ignores the warning and pays the price. Later, though, Gunter finds a photograph taken the day before The Coral Clipper exploded. From left to right, the people in the photo are: Rose, Chardonnay, Shiraz, Chablis, Merlot (the head of the modelling agency; she died in the disaster), Sherry, Brut, Gunter, and Cabernet. Every person in the photo has their face shadowed or partially obscured, except for Sherry's - her face shines as if she were under a spotlight. This indicates that Sherry is the only person to be spared by Death, while all the others are under the shadow of Death. Gunter realizes too late that the order in which they were seated in the picture mirrors the order they were meant to die in: Death's list goes down Sherry's right, and then up her left. The victims are oriented around Sherry as if she's at the center of a sun dial. After Sherry allows Cabernet to give birth safely, Death's design changes, and the change is registered in the photo, which is magically altered: Cabernet is now brightly illuminated in the picture, while the shadow of Death has fallen upon Sherry instead. After stepping out into the world for the first time after a six-month hospitalization, Sherry is immediately run over by a bus.
I like to imagine Evan was late cause he saw Alexs death and missed something that would have killed him,and I like to think clear had moved out of the way of something and pushed Tim which made Nora move out of the way to get him when a little later they would have died by something.
I think the guy "impersonating" Death was actually someone Death had possessed. For some reason, Death needs a human body to manifest its powers properly and the deal with that model was an attempt at turning her into Death's next vessel
The deaths in final destination 5 still follows the rules of the order of the list. Peter died after Dennis, Sam died after Peter. Roy technically tintervened Nathan's death by picking a fight with Nathan leading to Nathan accidentally pushing Roy into the path of the hook and chain so Nathan was moved to the bottom of the list as he died last. Molly wasn't on the bridge collapse list so her death between Sam and Peter has nothing to do with the list.
For the longest time I thought Bloodworth was Death as he seemed to know SO much about how the rules worked. After this video, specifically the bit regarding Bloodworth's voice ringing out to Kimberly, I wonder if he is some higher being working against Death. This is mostly a head-canon as Bloodworth "disappears" from the movie series so I'm sure the filmmakers weren't thinking that deeply into it. Still though, love your videos. Just recently stumbled on them and have been binging them non-stop. Thanks for the content!
@@weirdoscorner1917 I didn't either until I was actually looking for more Final Destination content a few years back. No one mentions the books. I found one at a discount book store, but sadly I did not buy it.
@@isaacvargas4833 My friend had me watch the movies. After watching four of them I was about to watch the fifth one but I didn’t because I was so scared death was coming for me so I watched something happy.
Honestly if they added the idea of a few immortal people that cheat death sounds interesting and maybe there could be a minor antagonist in a future installment that maybe is like a few days away from getting taken by death so perhaps the rule could be that those people can only kill other survivors to perhaps "please" death and sort of get rewarded in a loose sense with being allowed to stay alive a little longer but the time would be short so that they are more likely to not succeed so death can still get it's target.
I think we can confirm that death is unstoppable no matter what you do because in the “Choose their fate” feature on the Final Destination 3 DVD you can analyze a newspaper that a man is reading at the end of the movie. In this newspaper it talks about how Kimberly died in a wood chipper accident. So even though she was revived, death still came for her.
Yeah that actually makes a lot of sense because when I first heard about Jack dying at the end of the book despite not being a part of the list that made no sense to me because what reason would death have to go after Jack plus Jack is the one that has the vision in the novel that saves the police officer and kills the serial killer.
@@spencertang5155 in death of the senses it was said that the sixth would be revealed after the killing of the five and that sixth man was Jack He was the sixth sense. Jack the ripper actually does show up but in destination zero.
I like how much references the movies make to the books now that i see them. "end of the line" is an example with the last stop on final destination 3 being said with "End of the line" while it corrupts his speaking.
One thing I have always wondered about this series is who gives them the premonitions? Is it something certain people are inclined to or is it from another being similar in power to death?
I would like a movie about Frane Selak. The man survived basically every major plot (or at least a variation of it) of FD - and he's still kicking it to this day.
I thought he died in 2016 at age 87. I am curious how he died though, because I couldn't find anywhere if it was old age or something more tragic. Regardless, if all the things he lived through were true, and hitting big on the lottery, then that's just super crazy! Like you said I'd definitely watch a movie about it. Or add him into a final destination movie where he's survived all these crazy things, and lives to old age somehow finding a way to beat death. I don't know if anyone else would enjoy that, but I would lol.
In the route 23 pile up, Kimberley's friends apparently count as survivors as they didn't die the way they were meant to in the pile up but I don't think they were on death's list with kim in the first place and where just written in to the design
FD3 always confuses me. 10 people got off of the ride but in the vision we never see Frankie,Julie and her friend die, they just disappear from their seats before everyone gets stuck on the loop
Personally I think Bludworth is a kinda servant of death by giving info in a way that adds more people to death's list in the long run, maybe he made some sort of deal with death to prolong his life in exchange of adding more people to the list. Also Death is confirmed to be very petty when the time is needed
I’ve always been a supporter of the idea the visions were given by Death with the intention that just the seer (or the seer & those they were driving) survives till a later date. It just so happens the series highlights events where the seer a) went nuts over the vision rather than shaking it off as a bad dream/premonition and b) was believed....so, like, the opposite of Cassandra
Love the 'Cassandra Effect'. Especially in Wendy's case. Outrunning death was never the end goal. Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up. By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!? She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister. This concept is not new. Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'. The Old Testament has (H)ijob. Goethe created Faust. Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
thank you i've been trying to tell people this! This was the point of all the movies! Thank you for seeing inbetween the explosions and cars and stuff. :P
I think Death's duty is to make sure a certain timeline of events are supposed to happen, no one knows what the final picture is, but death is not a form of consequence, but merely a byproduct of maintaining the timeline of events
I always thought Bludworth was death, but now, given that he kind of thwarts Death's plans, I wonder if he's actually life? He gave Kimberly a premonition and is there to give them advice on how to avoid dying.
Kimberly is already on the route 23 list. When they start discussing how they are connected she mentions catching a news story about Tod's death so she isn't there to die with her mother.
Dang, forgot about that! Good call.
Yea, I came here to say this. I think you swapped Kimberly with Evan Lewis. We don’t know what caused Evan to skip not dying the first time, if he even was impacted by any of the flight 180 survivors.
@@aspiringwayfarer Possibly Clear? It would seem she or Alex were linked to the Carpenters or Evan
There is also a newspaper clipping in FD3 during the choose the fate mode, that explains Kimberly and that police officer were killed. I believe a woodchipper.
@@christianhelton5838 Do you mean officer Burt?
Death sees people cheat him.
"Time to break out Old Reliable."
Finds a nearby car.
Ctfu 😂😂😂
He shouldn't try killing them they are eventually going to die of old age.
@@generalkinobi6215 He has a list to complete.
@@generalkinobi6215 he has a daily quota he has to fill or he will get chewed out by BOTH his bosses
Good ole car, nothing beats that!
I can just imagine Death trying to finish up the Bridge List, then seeing the kids get off Flight 180 and just throwing his hands up in frustration. "I was just finishing up the last problem!"
Death waiting for the plane to explode in the waiting area as all those kids get pulled off throws up his hands "OMG more bloody survivors I have so much work to catch up on"
Its like getting done with a ton of work and then your boss or teacher giving you loads more immediately after
But you do realize that everyday there's always a people die? So no day off for Death
Would explain why the 'second' deaths are so much crueler than the original ones.
I whould be angry, too.
Like, I'm not even get paid for this crap.
Fork this!
@@zul6227 those people are like an automatic death, the survivors are basically death using her own hands to do the job because someone else fucked up the schedule
I can relate to Death here.
It made a tiny little error, and every time it tries to fix it, it accidentally causes more errors in an escalating conga-line of paperwork.
so...adhd, procrastination, or the indie game "Have a Nice Death"?
Now all I can picture in every scene is Death just clutching his head and getting frustrated at the paperwork he’ll have to do in addition to trying to fix his mess up.
So, the only way for the FD cast to defeat Death is to talk to its manager?
@@Polaricey123now why are you snitching to the higher ups. no solidarity between workers at all smh.
Death and I are one in the same 😂
Didn't even know they had comics and books for Final Destination, I learn so much from your videos
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I personally think Bludworth is a fallen angel or manifestation of life, who while not being able to directly save people, he does give them hints
Would be cool if he has elements of the dude from the comic, maybe he gets the same premonitions all of our protagonists get and he does what he can to help
I was wondering if Bludworth is death or is someone that made a deal with death so death doesn't take his life
I think that he was a clairvoyant and survived a disaster and found a way to stop death for real unlike all of the other occurrences. I think it was the same method used in the alternative ending to the first movie where they broke the chain and also created new life that was not meant to be born. That was too much for death that time and death actually gave up for real. Unlike that stupid fake outs in all the other movies (except for 2 because the plot twist that the baby was going to be born the whole time was actually really clever)
I think he might already controlled his sixth senses to the point he can dodge easily his death or he is death personified got bored and giving a chance to those who should have died to survive.
I like the idea that he doesn’t have it all figured out, but he’s studying Death. He can’t help those on Death’s list, but he tried. Maybe he can prevent others from getting on its list; prevent greater disasters.
He seems to know that the diversion of one list coming full circle leads to an even greater disaster… but it’s full of people who had cheated death. So, it’s not really a freak tragedy. But the less tragedies there are, the less people get on Death’s list early.
My theory of the 'Death's List' phenomenon is that Death gets fed-up with people getting lucky in avoiding him through small attempts, so he just has this big accident to cut all loopholes. But this effort to directly kill creates premonitioners.
Thats very interesting. Within the world of Final Destination, the premonitions and why the main characters had them remains unexplained. But then again, Death should know by now that big accident means premonition, means another list. Which is a hassle. Man, deaths job is shite.
Right. I mean, it's kinda like worker trying to correct some sort of mistake by cutting corner on projects. Death should be more pro-active and dunno, pose as a bounty hunter, and then fight his target as a giant wolf using sickles or some shit, dunno, random thought
I always saw it as a sort of game between outer entities. Death gambling with another power. The power provides visions and Death rounds them back up.
Or it's literally all designed by Death and he just occasionally gives people visions to then kill off the survivors in outlandish ways to highlight the inevitability and the all-encompassing nature of death in a world that aims to live longer and longer with each invention and improvement to health care etc.
@Phazz I like the idea of two forces in an eternal balance struggle
@@argusy3866I've always that it's an contrasting force to death - whether life or God - that gives people their premonitions
If Grim Reaper *physically* appeared for the first time in Final Destination, then that might be closest thing we got to a live-action adaptation of _Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy._
Hell Yeah
That's my show
Not in this franchise. Please no.
Plot twist
William IS death
I’m here for it
There should be a FD movie that takes place in Victorian Times. I think that would be really interesting
Yeah probably
With tony todd tho
lol I can see it
“She foresaw the future she’s a witch burn her”
Oh yes!
i was thinking the same thing!
@@Legendary-Nitro Sound about right.
My main theory for the final destination is that bloodworth is the original grim reaper from the older stories that got replaced by a new grim reaper which is why he knows how to survive death and tries to save the clairvoyant people so he can become death once again
I've always thought bloodwork was death but just sort of like to play with his food so to speak. Whenever he comes across clairvoyants he can give you clues on how to survive but ultimately he will take everyone in the end.
@@felicityanne979 i watched all of the Final destination movies but i didn't kown that there were books and comics about it
@@charlottestreet3301 I knew there were but never dived into that content.
The alternate ending to the first movie was so much better and gave Clear a better character arc. She and Alex conceive a child that night on the beach and Alex ends up dying to save her in the storm. Death eventually allows Clear to live in a beautiful scene where she delivers the child at exactly 9:25 PM, the same time flight 180 would have taken off and the same seat Alex was supposed to sit, row 9 seat 25.
That's neat. But we know they couldn't do that because underage relationships and such.
@@Topdoggie7 weren't they seniors so 18-19 maybe 17 about to turn 18
@@G-TV_TheOneManArmy It's very frowned upon to show teen pregnancy even if it's nineteen and romanticize it like that.
@@Topdoggie7 I thought it just wasn't liked by test audiences
@@TheoRae8289 Because underaged relationships.
First disaster happens in 1889
People in 1888:*immortality*
That's the year the Jack the Ripper murders happened.
@@catherinefilcher236 hE'S mY gReAt gReAt gRAnDpa
they did a joke like this in family guy where death dies and everyone just does the stupidest crap possible sense theres nothing to fear anymore
@@catherinefilcher236
1889 was when Adolf Hitler was born
What's the Name of THE Book the first Disaster happened
I met Tony Todd at an event in Raleigh and he told me that he (Tony) saw Bludworth as a fallen angel condemned to work as a coroner for all eternity
Oohh I love that theory! That is how I see it to, or at least something similar.
So if you stay with him very close you probably won't die? Wow i like and curious about my theory. What happens really? you never left his house and sleep in the same bed at night lol. Make bludworth is your guardian angel.
That’s a great explanation.
That sounds awesome
I like that idea because you can see his advice coming from either a place of spite towards humanity, just trying to make the survivors piss off death more so they die in even more gruesome manners, or from a place of compassion, just trying to help the humans he once despised, even if it isn't entirely successful.
My Theory-I think Alex was the Flight 180 survivor that intervened for Evan.
Reasoning: both are young men who were originally going to be burned before passing in premonitions but both passed from head injuries probably for Death to finish them off quicker. Evan likely saw Alex get hit by the brick in an alley and this caused a ripple.
If you pause the scene in Evan’s apartment you can see he liked race cars. My theory is that after Evan saw Alex get hit with the brick, Evan was shaken and decided to cancel plans with his roomate/ friends at a rickety racetrack in New York and save up for a nice car of his own. This was a safer way to have his dream, saved his life but also is why when he won the lottery the first thing he bought was his new car with flames.
Final Destination 3 was my favorite, and I loved Ian bc he really thought part of Death's plan was for him to kill the others but then died. Almost as if Death was like "hell nah, you weren't even suppose to live- BAM!" and then killed him.
Buy the choose their fate version. You can chose nearly all the "one or the other" choices in the movie and weather Ian jumps left or right is an option, one result is the origianl movie continues the other is pretty epic. Saving frankie is an option and the list goes on.
He was also weirdly hot
Nobody:
Death when someone survives: TiMe To GeT cReAtIvE
Naw he just bodies them with cars
Creativity 100
Cars are not a creative color
I used to be a huge fan of Final Destination and researched every possible piece of media and always tried to find even the most minor of details, the series has always fascinated me with such a simple yet complex permise
I feel the same way!
I was watching this video and i got an ad for a company that sells contacts lenses and the name of the company is "1800 contacts" and im screaming
WHAT!!!? 💀
That's crazy though
@@CZsWorld Maybe that shaman in the spring break was a physical manifestation of death
Olivia's ghost might be trying to warn you...
ARE YOU STILL ALIVE
I feel like the reason death became a physical appearance because he was annoyed and just said screw it and gave one of the victims a deal they would love
After reading the books I really hope we eventually get a movie that reveals Death is having a cosmic office war with Life because she keeps messing with his work schedule. If they ever cast Death I really hope they get Keith David to do the job, I can imagine no one better for the role. Would be cool if the other reveal is that Bludworth has been an assistant for Life and Death from like way back in the 1800s.
Does this mean the life is kinda the one giving the sight into the future for one person each time?
@@MistySophie Some people think so. I am still trying to figure out what makes the most sense as to why people get visions. It would make sense if it was Life but it could also be Death fighting back to keep his design in check. So like a back and forth between the two.
This would be so fun!
can life be portrayed by Tilda Swinton?
I think Julian Richings would be awesome as Death... After all, he played Death in Supernatural. ^_^
Admit it, we're all scared of everything around us now because of these movies
Man it took me until 16 years old to finally agree to ride a rollercoaster all cause of FD3
Nope.. stupid and hilarous concept for a movie
No...
Final destination is extremely unrealistic so you don't need to worry about that. The only thing you can take away is that death is inevitable so you should live every single day of your life like it's your last. Memento mori.
@@NOTDeezy. i'm still was traumatized by the pool one with Hunt. That crap scared me for life
I'd love to see a Final Destination movie from Death's POV. It would be hilarious to see Death try to find new ways to still get the survivors' souls and just being SO DONE with the job. I imagine it would be like some kind of unwanted overtime?
It's pretty interesting if it's a dark comedy movie about the perspective of the Grim Reaper.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 yes it should be a comedy horror film called final destination 6: death view
I mean, we kind of do get that. Death's always behind the cast, until it has them.
so...indie game "Have a Nice Death"?
Or better yet, make a Final Destination video game where you have to find creative ways to kill survivors of a disaster you planned.
Random thought : What if Bloodworth is Death and him giving pointers is just part of his game with the survivors?
See my video on Bludworth for my theory on him!
@@CZsWorld i did, i like the ide that he was a former premonitenr
@@CZsWorld Ive seen it and I like that theory but this also popped in my head while watching this video as a possibility
@@ThatOneGorillaTag_Guy hold up maybe he died after fd 2 and he is just giving visions for the survivors
no
Also worth noting: the death count listed doesn’t necessarily count folks that died in the books consequently because of death taking out someone who WAS on its primary list. Rose’s botched liposuction unfortunately results in the nurse dying as well. When the leaking nitrous oxide incapacitated the surgeon and the nurse, the nurse hits her head on the table and dies.
Which really made me wonder if the nurse was intended to die in that way all along.
I have a few theories about William Bloodworth:
1) He was on deaths list, but got an offer like Sherry and fullfiled his end of the bargain
2) He is still on deaths list, but he's gotten so good at avoiding it that he can live a normal life
3) He found some sort of loophole that took him off of deaths list permanently, inadvertently making him immortal
4) He is a Grim Reaper or some kind of spirit or Undertaker or something like that who works for death, but takes pity on certain people who cheat death and warns them that they aren't out of the woods yet
Not immortal but he always says new life, both fd5 and fd2 proved that to be true, The dvd deleted scene of fd2 having no survivors is not canon,the books confirm that, So the only survivors found some form of new life, FD2 had a second premonition about the way to get new life, and we know the premonitions are reliable So no reason to believe she died, She probably in her version got a re design of her life, We also know she truly survived because death moved on way past her and got the kid at the barbecue, the woodchipper news was obviously a joke and read like a joke if you read the paper. So he either has New life, or
Is death He even says "ill see you soon"
One of mine is that he’s a fallen angel who’s condemned to live on earth as a coroner for the rest of eternity and that’s why he warns people after a premonition comes true to let them know by basically saying that they’re not out of the woods yet.
@PrincessSunnyoftheSandWings that mean Bludworth is a devil
@@Therussiancowboy78 fallen angels are not automatically devils.
These are not theories, they are guesses as they directly conflict with one another.
From the way it's explained in the movie, I think that Nora, Tim, Evan and Kimberly's friends Shauna, Dano and Frankie were always meant to die on the route 23 pile-up. The other survivors (Kat, Rory, Eugene, Thomas and Kimberly) were simply added to this list after the interference from Alex and the flight 180 survivors. That's the reason the list was backwards, since it was conpleting the original list and moved on to the added people.
Also, Todd's death news actually prevented Kimberly, not Evan, from being killed prior.
holy shit...i’ve never thought about it that way. my mind is genuinely blown great analysis
The sponsor Hunter Killer just makes think of the Hostel series. 🤷🏻♀️
There is no list. The order doesn’t matter. Its not about saving the other survivors. The premonition sight is not supposed to help you save the other survivors and yourself, that’s what ALL the main characters get wrong. Death gives you the premonition to make you kill all the other survivors, save yourself and become death servant. That’s what the black guy did. It goes against your nature, you literally have to become death itself to survive the game.
That is a possibility, but I think Tim and Nora was still saved at one point and whatever disaster that was suppose to kill them killed Tim's father/Nora's husband because if you remember in the 2nd movie Nora mention her husband being dead but not how.
Makes sense.
I literally didn't even know that there where books or comics in the Final Destination franchise
They don't really want you to know haha
@@CZsWorld 👁👄👁
the comics are crap and the deaths are worst.
@@CZsWorld understandable, have a nice day
@@CZsWorld they be hiding evrything
The theme song for Final Destination series should have been the song "Dumb ways to die". Death sure likes dealing freak accidents
The theme in 4/5 is pretty good though.
@@CZsWorld Turn Around, Look At Me from 3 also works.
Someone dying in a non-convoluted and overly detailed way would be subversive at this point
@@crystalbaerwaldt2075 I mean, Alex was taken out by a falling brick.
Ik I'm a year late but some things about the novels and Spring Break:
• Final Destination Zero actually does have a date recorded it takes place April 2005.
• Final Destination dead reckoning takes place June 2004 (Eric Prescott dies a month after Ben's death so he dies in July)
• Final Destination Spring Break actually doesn't have a date(although I personally think it happened in 2003)
Edit: Another thing to add is that Juliet Collins from the start of the video is Patti Fuller's Great Grandmother.
The My chemical romance channel host needs to see your comment for the sequel
@@Pwnulolumad
Ik I'm a year late, but I don't get it
I can just see Death checking off his list and right as he gets to the last person, he sees those 9 people get off Flight 180 so he just quits and the boss Reaper grabs his scythe and is like “fine. I’ll do it myself.”
Death: *doing his jobs*
Kids: *trying to cheat death*
Death: Oh come on, I want to go home!
Making me feel bad for Death.
@@CZsWorld Okay I am officially fanboying right now - keep up the awesome vids, man!
@@CZsWorld same here
Death: I don't want to be sadistic, but they forced me to do it...they interrupted my vacation plans!!!
Fuck death im immortal fuckers
(Get's hit by a sign)
In Sam's premonition he was cut in half, in Alex's premonition he died on the plane. If put the pieces together you find out that Molly dies how Sam died in the premonition and Sam dies in the same way Alex did
Damn good theories
Oh..my god! that is a dam good theory
@@WildeNASCAR Copy or prank?
@@p4ep_pp_25_sawraphatratana4 or just someone with the same opinion
Put it together like Sam's cut off torso
I actually feel bad for Death.
All he is doing is keeping the balance of life and death in order. He is just doing his job. Plus, they never establish if he takes sadistic joy in what he is doing
I guess it make sense. No wonder why Grim Reaper from _Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy_ is such a nice guy.
Death in family guy is kinda chill
@@Venemofthe888, so was Jason Voorhees
Death could do it a bit more nicely you know like dying in their sleep. But I guess that wouldn’t make a good film
@@thunderbolt4579 it wouldn't. I suppose the over the top deaths are due to Death's anger that people escaped their intended demise.
I'd like to add. The reason Molly died (even though she wasn't in the Bridge Collapse list) was because she was actually meant to die by Peter during the kitchen scene but was soon interfered by Sam which unknowingly added her to the death list
Also, Sam was supposed to die before Molly but they switched places last minute. Hence, Molly's death was similar to Sam's (in the premonition) where she was cut in half
You and me have same Brain lol
I think The idea of Angels of Death would work here.
It would explain how Bludwurth knows about so many rules and possible theories despite only witnessing one incident as far as we know. It would also explain the "Fake Death" guy from the book with the malibu boat. I think if you cheat death, one of two things happen: Either death sends one of it's angels out to collect the due(most of the minor accidents like the tanning bed and elevator), or if you really pissed them off Death itself comes out(mostly for the major accidents like Volee Flight 180, the Bridge Collapse, and the massive fire that's gonna happen in FD6). To collect the due is the angels job, and one of those angels was sent to that model chick, under the name of death. Hell, it might've been Bludwurth since you described the man as being an "old black man", which Tony Todd absolutely is at this point. So I think it was actually a few angels of death working on killing off the survivors. Death makes the list, but the angels have to cross the names out.
Just a theory.
“A mobile pipe cleaning service by a professional... called candi”
Lmao, that nearly made me choke on my tea. 😂😂😂
You cheated death then
Was the tea yellow? And did anything bizarre happen after?
Well Candi choked too 😏😂
What does that mean pipe cleaning service professional candi
@@Numberblocker oh the innocence.
I'm pretty sure Todd extended Kimberlys death since she got caught up watching it on the news at the mall, where her mother was shot and killed by car-jackers.
Yeah you’re right
The real question is how no one else saw her get killed most likely in broad daylight
yeah but they didn't try to stop them
Question: What do you think are the Visions?
I mean, their results are way too inefficient to be send
by an benelovent being - and its really obvious
that Death does not send them himself; i find it actually
pretty weird how some Fans assume this.
I always assumed it was a glitch and 'just something that sometimes happens',
and i stand to that.
I would probably say that Kimberly Corman, Wendy Christensen, and possibly Alex Browning were also gifted just like William Bludworth.
The only aspect that largely seems inconsistent is who receives a premonition. Wendy gets two, Guy from TFD gets one for every single victim, etc.
I guess some have greater powers than others.
Flight 180 is 9/11
why does it have to be consistent?
It's the 'Cassandra Effect'.
Especially in Wendy's case.
Outrunning death was never the end goal.
Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up.
By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!?
She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister.
This concept is not new.
Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'.
The Old Testament has (H)ijob.
Goethe created Faust.
Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
I made a list on who I think is the most powerful visionary from each movie
1. Nick (FD4, had visions for each death and 2 major disasters)
2. Wendy (FD3, 2 major disasters)
3. Kimberly (FD2, saw clues in reflection and glimpses into the future of her drowning in an ambulance)
4. Alex (FD1, like Kimberly, he saw clues in reflections
5. Sam (FD5, only saw the bridge collapse)
These are the notes I have made about the character of Death:
It is an entity, not death itself. As we see pieces of it. Skeletal like arms in Final Destination 2 and a smoke like form in Final Destination.
With how it acts and the rules that it abides by for the most part, shows not only is it an entity, but it is an evil entity.
The premonitions are caused by something that does not want to see Death succeed in its soul eating since that is not normal and those who are killed by Death in the accidents and the survivors, do not go to heaven or hell but are collected or consumed by this malevolent being.
It reminds me a lot of Death from Castlevania:
It feeds on the souls as the people from it's list die. It consumes them with their last breath, essentially eating their death.
It enjoys what it does to the extent to where it has no problems causing a huge accident in order to have a big meal.
Whenever someone escapes, it feels robbed of its meal and goes after those who escape. Wanting to satisfy its hunger.
It eats it's fill and hides. Hence the time gaps at the end of the movies.
It draws up a list for a meal, and should anyone avoid their death, Death will become enraged but patiently wait before picking them off fast and at unsuspecting times.
If it was death and not Death, there would be no premonitions, since it would be natural. No cat and mouse game and no rules. death doesn't need a thing to cause it. You could trip over your own feet and break your neck or drown while taking a drink of water.
Whereas Death needs to use the environment to kill for it as it has rules and cannot just make people drop dead or anything. Hence the environmental ways of every character's death.
The whole "Only new life can defeat Death" makes sense in this way as well. Since the unborn child of a survivor who was not pregnant at the time of the disaster is inside a female survivor, that essentially destroys the design and Death is forced to release those who were still alive on its list despite not wanting that.
And it would explain why nothing else works. If you steal someone else's life, you are still on the list. So the "exchange" is something Death can ignore and use as a loophole to gain additional victims it was never meant to have.
And we see that Death has no problems cheating the system from time to time, hence the ending of Final Destination 3 and the theater vision in The Final Destination and to an extent the ending of Final Destination 5.
Cheating the system by making a new list and adding the previous survivors if they did not erase their names from the list.
Bloodworth could also be one who knows what's really going on as he had been studying Death.
His backstory and how he knows New life can defeat Death could be because of his own mother. Maybe he was a child that was never meant to be. So he studied Death and wants to find any and all weaknesses and find a way to destroy it.
The reason he hesitates to help others is because he doesn't want to end up on the list due to being near the marked victims.
He helps Kimberly because he wants to see if what his mother told him was true, and anyone else he tried to help with that, never was able to succeed. So he almost gave up. Kimberly's pleading gave him reason to at least try one last time.
I would LOVE to see a Final Destination movie explore all that more. Especially since originally it was meant to be an X Files episode.
With the direction that the Final Destination series is going, I can't help but think that the chosen victim who receives the premonition to avoid Death doesn't have the vision to save everyone; I think Death sent the premonition so that the said character, and others who survive think they're safe so that he could toy with them before killing them.
I think the Final Destination series is Death playing games with the victims.
Fd4 basically confirmed this, with that scene at the end "What if all this was because we're meant to be here?" (Cue dump truck to the face)
Basically death allows these people to "escape" so it can hunt them for sport later.
It's basically a cat torturing a mouse.
@@Rammstein0963. Or a shark toying with a wounded seal.
Is anyone else getting low-key stressed on behalf of death just watching every mistake snowball into bigger and bigger problems death has to clean up?
Ah, the life of a procrastinator.
Imagine having to kill people with tiny tweaks to the environment and your victims own mistakes. If you think about it, Death probably always has to deal with these situations just because it is really limited in its ability to effect anything on our side of the veil. Usually by causing tiny water leak somewhere it would cause chaos, a small but important fastener to come loose, affecting the flight of random piece of scrap metal blown off the train tracks etc.
I imagine Death watching his carefully planned accident failing cause of one asshole with a vision every single time and he just stares for a moment and goes: for f*ck sake! 😠
I won’t lie, I genuinely believe that you have one of the best greenscreen edits I’ve ever seen. 😂😂😂 Your Czsworld background, the mysterious classroom background in this video, and it all fits perfect. I never see any editing flaws or anything lol. Great work CZSWorld & whoever else works with him. (If he isn’t alone)
for sure, his backgrounds are always amazing 💞
@@joliax1646 totally agreed
I still think it's weird Sam and Molly didn't realize what was going on, when Alex started to freak out in the plain
I think Sam was busy with the carry-on compartment that he didn't notice him say the planes gonna crash
@@craftingranger7552 True but I think it’s even weirder that Sam didn’t get the same vision Alex did. Even Wendy got a vision of the subway accident (though she couldn’t change it.)
It's human nature.
Ignorance/ Not knowing is bliss.
Otherwise it would drive people insane or make them sick.
You can't outrun death.
You can delude yourself in thinking that you can hide from it, like Clair did.
But it was just part of the new plan, nothing more.
When 'death' wants you out, you will be out.
The building collapsing, a plane malfunctioning, tick bite, a virus, an artery in your brain bursting ...
Clair was never safe.
Especially Greek Mythology is full of bored & cruel deities playing with human beings.
The most interesting story in the Old Testament is the one about (H)Ijob.
Probably inspired Goethe to create Faust.
MEMENTO MORI
&
CARPE DIEM
Don't waste your time with running away.
Stay and make your peace with all that 'unfinished business' you still have.
I personally would choose the 'Angriest Man in Brooklyn' path.
People I love and respect already know that I care deeply about them.
I treat those people like, it's the last time we will ever see eachother.
That's why I would use my last hours on earth to insult all the people I dislike and beat the crap out of those I hate.
Ultimate goal: Take down some really nasty psychos.
Make the world a little better before I leave for good.
@@ri210 ikr so Wendy could have two premonitions but not Sam? I actually don’t mind too much because it made for a fantastic ending. And I guess Sam just didn’t think much of it because he might’ve thought he was the only person in the world who could have those visions.
@@RealHajimeHinata Because Wendy was supposed to survive those situations not Sam. Sam was meant to die there, therefor no visions.
One thing to consider is that for the movie Final Destination 3 there is a special that lets you make various choices for the film and if you choose the right one only four people survive and two are completely different from the list in the move. I think Death can intervene with a significant change, but with a smaller change the alteration might fall within an acceptable range, like with Clear and that lets them live. Though that might be considered non-canon it's an interesting thought, that there is an acceptable range or impact that allows a list ignored.
There is a chance that Evan Lewis, Tim, and Nora Carpenter were not put on death's list due to flight 180, it could be that the pile up was meant for the other survivors (Kat, Eugene, Kimberly, Rory, and Burke), and they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time
I like to think Evan got added to the list after he got into a fight with Alex for hitting on Clear, delaying him enough to avoid whatever was meant to cause his death. Sort of how Carter and Tod's deaths indirectly saved Rory and Kimberly
"wrong place at the wrong time" kind of beats the purpose of the franchise, since it's basically saying there is no coincidence, it's always at the right place at the right time
@@laklompdying a brutal death in a highway pileup might be the right place and time in the great cosmos but it sure is wrong place and wrong time for the person dying that way lmao
@@Fackunator yes for the person, indeed lol 🤣
Nadia from The Final Destination seems to be one of the only ones who died how they were meant to
Clear also died from a fire explosion and she might’ve originally died that way from flight 180
I think death was doing his list in reverse because clear was still alive. Death couldn't kill the first person in the list (clear), so he started with the last
This makes so much sense !
Question: What do you think are the Visions?
I mean, their results are way too inefficient to be send
by an benelovent being - and its really obvious
that Death does not send them himself; i find it actually
pretty weird how some Fans assume this.
I always assumed it was a glitch and 'just something that sometimes happens',
and i stand to that.
@@loturzelrestaurant maybe it was a glitch or their spirit coming in contact with death's design
It's the 'Cassandra Effect'.
Especially in Wendy's case.
Outrunning death was never the end goal.
Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up.
By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!?
She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister.
This concept is not new.
Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'.
The Old Testament has (H)ijob.
Goethe created Faust.
Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
This reminds me of Amy and Sheldon.
Amy trying to help Sheldon to get over his OCDs.
We know how that one ended.
Every movie introduces it's own new concept or rules, but at the end ... nobody can outrun death and they are wasting precious time.
Especially in Wendy's case.
Outrunning death or hiding from it like Clear was never the end goal.
Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up.
By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!?
She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister.
This concept is not new.
Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'.
The Old Testament has (H)ijob.
Goethe created Faust.
Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
"Matt's abs are not strong enough to stand up to fireworks"
LMAO
One thing that I find so cool about this series is that the first movies disaster is actually set on the day I was conceived, which was also the day before my mum's birthday too!
I was born on February the 5th 2001 😊
That's cool.
Goddamn that makes me feel old. I was 17 then🤦🏼♂️
Timestamps for each Final Destination Series
0:01 Number 4 Mornington Crescent
2:17 The Collapse Of Club Kitty
3:00 The South Hill Metroline
3:48 Thirty-second Street Train Crash
6:05 Merlin's Tower Elevator Collapses
8:01 The Sacrifice And Other Disasters
9:18 The North Bay Bridge Collapse
11:09 Volee Flight 180
13:39 The Phenomenon
16:34 The Hotel Grand Tzolk' in Explosion
17:49 The Lakeview Fire & Route 23 Pile-up
21:32 Death Of The Senses
22:44 Coral Clipper & Devil's Flight Crashes
27:00 The Megatech 300
28:19 Kill Count & Analysis
Edit: I know there is a Auto Generated Timestamp please don't remind me
5:05 Hunt A Killer AD Part 1
12:47 Hunt A Killer AD Part 2
North Bay Bridge Collapse
Candice Hooper - Victim
Isaac Palmer - Victim
Olivia Castle - Victim
Roy Carson - Victim
Dennis Lapman - Victim
Peter Fredkin - Victim
Sam Lawton - Victim
Molly Harper - Victim
Nathan Sears - Victim
Flight 180
Tod Waggner - Victim
Terry Chaney - Victim
Valerie Lewton - Victim
Carter Horton - Victim
Billy Hitchcock - Victim
Clear Rivers - Victim
Alex Browning - Victim
Route 23 & The Lakeview Fire
Evan Lewis - Victim
Kat Jennings - Victim
Thomas Burke - Survivor
Eugene Dix - Victim
Tim Carpenter - Victim
Nora Carpenter - Victim
Rory Peters - Victim
Kimberly Corman - Survivor
Brian Gibbons - Victim
Devil's Flight
Ashley Freund - Victim
Ashley Halperin - Victim
Frankie Cheeks - Victim
Lewis Romero - Victim
Erin Ulmer - Victim
Perry Malinowski - Victim
Ian McKinley - Victim
Wendy Christensen - her fate is unknown
Kevin Fischer - his fate is also unknown
Julie Christensen - her fate is unknown
Megatech 300
Nadia Monroy - Victim
Carter Daniels - Victim
Samantha Lane - Victim
Andy Kewzer - Victim
Janet Cunningham - Victim
Hunt Wynorski - Victim
Jonathan Groves - Victim
George Lanter - Victim
Nick O'Bannon - Victim
Lori Milligan - Victim
Death has been brutal throughout and then it gets to Alex and goes "hey, take a brick!" 🙄
Honestly after all the trouble he caused death I think death just wanted to get it over with already and made it simple and fast.
Too much hoopla, I think.
@@sirtofbaggins4270 agreed. Death was working out his new mental multilayered trap and just thinks fuck it this'll never work and just lobs a brick at him. Or maybe he had just survived another attempt to kill him without even noticing. Death kicks the wall in frustration and the brick just fell
I was thinking " suck brick, kid" Harry to Kevin, Home Alone 2.
@sekaihatsu the brick isna very effective killing tool. In fact, if death wants to kill people quickly, just use vehicles. Its quick, clean, and a hell of a lot less messier.
Also notice how Bloodworth is looking around during five when he’s talking with them. Looks like he’s already caught on to something, or he using his clairvoyant abilities to dodge something
what?
My question is - does death give the survivors the vision to play a game of cat and mouse, or is there another entire at work trying to save them, but can only do it once?
The vision is to change ur fate without changing the fate of the individual who's being targeted.. Because death was writing wrongs they just kept making it more wrong. So the cycle just kept repeating and claiming more people. If you was not supposed to die, and DEATH is planning to kill someone near you by changing the events. Someone who was not supposed to die that day in that moment will get a premonition, To save themselves they are not supposed to save others because THEY are supposed to die. It's how he designed it if it makes sense.. Okay u know how a plan or a bus crashes and not EVERYONE dies? And your shocked people survive and they have this crazy survivor story!? It's like that, They was not meant to die there everyone else however was.. Just how things worked out. But what happens if someone who was supposed to die gets saved by someone having a vision... Then death is being cheated right? Boom there you go u have Final Destination so now DEATH is going to fix these little errors in his system.
I’ve always wondered this as well! Or are the premonitions inadvertently caused by an initial incident where deaths plan was thwarted by complete mistake?
Ive actually seen this theory floated around as well. Bloodwurth or perhaps someone else is actually "Death". They like messing with people. So they setup events and then sees what the survivors do.
This ties in with the "rules" since he is actually the one making them up. And this way he can insert himself in the drama.
This would also tie up the phone call and the deal as it is just an extention of what has gone before. How much can this entity push the people its playing with.
This could mean its not actually Death itself but another Entity.
Also Clear isbexplained because her locking herself up in the asylum means its no fun or no challenge.
And that could also explain why it like to go grand and wrap up while lists at a time on occasion or just move on from people. Its attention get diverted or moved on.
Exactly what I was thinking.
I think it's most likely Death just messing with people.
That's how i see it: events can branch into infinite paths, leading to infinite possible outcomes, randomness does actually exist, as proven by quantum mechanics; but some powerful entity wants to control events and herd them into a predetermined line. Somehow, probably due to said randomness, an individual gets to experience a possible event before it actually happens, this messes the predetermined line, and the entity is forced to directly intervene and put back everything on track. This happens with any kind of event, but we only pay attention to deaths because it attracts more attention. Cases where people win litteries only to lose everything shortly after are a perfect example of such "restructurings".
So, strangely enough, the only characters that remain unkilled on screen or off screen are Wendy and the other 2. At the end of FD3 is implied she cant get out of the metro, bit still, why having a vision if she couldnt use it to survive?
It would be an amazing twist in the future of this series to reveal that the person giving people visions is some form of the Norse God Loki, he's not actually trying to help them but is in fact just causing mischief for death by ruining his kills hence why the entity gives them visions but never enough info that the victims end up surviving indefinitely without outside help
It's the 'Cassandra Effect'.
Especially in Wendy's case.
Outrunning death was never the end goal.
Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up.
By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!?
She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister.
This concept is not new.
Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'.
The Old Testament has (H)ijob.
Goethe created Faust.
Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
Different mythos interacting I love it
I want a scene where Death comes to the physical world, drags Loki by the ear behind a building and just beats the shit out of him for doing this shit to them *again* lol
This is honestly so well done. I haven’t seen a comprehensive wrap-up of the Final Destination series that is this high quality (even though I know that this is the History of Death, it’s essentially just a wrap-up of the series in relation to death). Absolutely love this :)
Can we talk about Molly though, from FD5, her situation is so interesting. She wasn't supposed to die in the bridge collapse and then her character was all over the place getting intertwined with the deaths of so many characters.
It's only assumed she wasn't meant to die in the bridge collapse. It could be that she was going to die right after her boyfriend. The premonition ends after his death, so we don't know what would have happened after he died. For all we know, something may have pushed her off the bridge immediately following his death.
@@spooniejusticewarrior true yeah, but I'm more interested in how she fits into the overall death's list and how her turn was affected by other's "turn/time to die." Her situation just seems so confusing to me
Molly died on Flight 180 cause she cheated death by not being killed by Peter who was killed by Sam thus adding her to Death's List.
In F.D. II they introduce the concept of death being 'contagious'.
It's like throwing a stone in the water.
The ripple effect changes everything and everybody around you.
You are an abnormality/a paradox, something that shouldn't exist to begin with.
Like, when you are no longer part of the jigsaw puzzle, that means you are claiming space that doesn't belong to you anymore.
There is a novel by Gemma Maley.
Human kind finds a cure for 'death'.
To prevent overpopulation creating kids is no longer allowed.
One out, one in.
Parents or somebody else needs to die, so that those 'illegal' kids can live.
Was reminded of the novel whenever John Oliver made fun of Fox News for throwing shade at Greta Thunberg.
@@zixen4480 no because peter was supposed to be killed on the bridge collapse so it was never deaths plan to have peter kill her, she didnt cheat death
Every time I see Bludworth he reminds me a lot of the Character Candyman that Tiny Todd played in the 90's, I wonder if he drew some inspiration from his old character
"Tiny Todd" lmao
@@CZsWorld lol totally missed that auto correct,
Seeing this makes me think that Death kinda likes to play games with Bludworth, to see if he is capable of catching up to her. At the end Death always wins, but having someone tracking her must be "thrilling" for Death. I could be completely wrong of course, it's just fun to think about
I like it. Makes it look like accidents, even cleans up the area to fake a suicide and Bludworth is like "I see you..."
Makes you wonder if they ever get together for a drink to compare notes on recent deaths.
her?
is she sexy?
Fun fact: the actor for William Bloodworth (Tony Todd) also played the candyman and voiced the fallen in rotf
Person cheats Death
Death: "Time to get creative."
Person trips and impales themselves on a straw
Seriously it could just pinch an artery and boom brain dead
@ THAT KID
Whatever or whoever is killing these people is very cruel.
Like you said, a bursting artery in their brains would be more than enough.
These 'games' pretty much scream:
Bored and cruel deity!
The same happens to Cassandra.
She has visions, but nobody believes her and she is unable to change anything.
After the 3. movie I stopped caring all together.
Why not use that 'extra' time to make your peace with unfinished business!?
Wendy becomes a better person by trying to save other people - showing that she cares.
Even manages to fix her relationship with her little sister.
I don't believe in Sky Fairies or in any kind of propaganda psychotic scum is enforcing on others.
But I really wish people will still think of me as decent and compassionate.
Never cared about fame or money, being trusted and respected let's you sleep better.
MY NAME IS EARL
SEASON 4
EPISODE 18
Person gets their head cut off by a toy sword
A VERY watered down version of Final Destination happened to me. I got COVID in February and I was completely isolated. As such, my sleep schedule was completely random and I wound up making Mac and cheese at 2am one day. One of my close friends had just woken from a dream in which my apartment caught fire while I was cooking. She apparently had a similar dream about her sister before she was in a car accident (she’s fine). My friend was freaking out so she called me and asked me to get out of the house. I’m not a superstitious person so I didn’t listen. While I was on the phone with her, the stove caught fire; apparently my roommate had made food earlier and some of it fell into the burner that I couldn’t see and ignited. Everything was fine, there wasn’t even any property damage, but a weird coincidence all the same
That’s nuts
That's good that you shrugged it off. If you had walked off the house her premonition would became real. Since there would be nobody there to stop the fire
Can you do a Horror History on The Shining characters like Jack, Wendy, Danny Torrance, Dick Halloran and The Overlook Hotel?
Yes please
Omg yes that would be awesome
Yes !
wait a minute is that a pic of garoshadowscale
I know the deaths in this series are rarely questioned in universe but I'm still wondering how they managed to rule Todd's death as a suicide
Loved this! I've been waiting for someone to connect the dots. I think there have been ripples for generations that causes premonitions due to death trying to close the loop.
Oh thats a cool thing like Death allowed somebody to be revived to help kill her brother. Death can work in mysterious ways and does a 180 to correct deaths that should of happened
Also would molly of died on flight 180 if Sam didn't have a vision previously. Cause in Sams vision molly survived anyway.
Would death still got her on flight 180 or would of died at some other point.
Also that comic between 1 and 2 is interesting because it shows even death needs a holiday
"does a 180" i see what you did there
Molly was placed on Death's list when Sam saved her from being killed by Peter. Peter was safe from Death because he had taken Agent Block's life, but Sam was still on the list, so his action to save Molly works the same way as the victims of FD2 were saved though the action of the Flight 180 survivors. If Sam and Peter had died on the bridge, Molly would have lived much longer.
It's the 'Cassandra Effect'.
Especially in Wendy's case.
Outrunning death was never the end goal.
Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up.
By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!?
She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister.
This concept is not new.
Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'.
The Old Testament has (H)ijob.
Goethe created Faust.
Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
I had heard there was novels of the franchise but could never find them, Thanks Czworld. I hope you have a Merry Christmas if you celebrate it.
Saiess Chousin Arches Eripmav Kevin
@@TheValadez06 Is that Czworld's name?
I have no idea
@@TheValadez06 ._.
I bet your a human
So in Final Destination 2 the lives of the cast are extended due to the cast of the first movie, so when Nick saves a whole movie theater from exploding after he had a vision in the 4th film, does that mean everyone in that theater is now on Death's list?
Didn't think about that, but YES it does.
@@CZsWorld There actually 2 people that survive the entire series, Kimberly and Officer Burke, and yes I know the whole woodchipper thing in 3, but the film makers have said that was a "what if" bonus feature and deemed not canon to the movies. so Kimberly and Officer Burke lived.
One of the greatest mysteries of this series: who or what has been giving these people these visions of impending death in the first place?!
Fun fact, the “northbay bridge” is played by the bridge in my home town. And let me tell you, after that film came out. A TON of people were antsy about crossing it for months 😂
Wow… 😅😅😅
Should have put grim reaper in the entrance for the lols
I love how people avoid death, and end up dying in the most hysterical/ridiculous ways.
if anyone is interested The 80's slasher library has covered death of the senses, dead reckoning, looks could kill, dead mans hand and also the novalized version of Final Destination 3 (which has a lot of differences but there's no subway crash since the novel is based of the original script) if anyone hasn't checked em out you guys totally should! he's a good narrator and plans to cover all the novels :D
I helped him get Death of the Senses and FD3 on the channel. I will be helping him with Fd1 and Fd2 novelizations as well.
"Matt's abs are not strong enough to stand up to fireworks."...
I would say something about how gym work is important but then again that didn't help Lewis Romero in FD3.
Is it just me or does CZ keep shedding a tear every now and then plus i hardly see him blink
I am reading through dead mans hand atm (the book with the elevator detachment) and it's interesting just how aggressive death is in this book so far. Right after everyone but allie (the woman who had the premonition) gets out, the elevator closes as allie leaves,it sandwiches her and almost kills her. Death instantly tried to kill her before her vision even came true.
Later on It made traffic lights fall into the van all the survivors were in, and had the dismembered drivers foot stay on the gas pedal and allie sees the steering wheel moves itself, death was literally driving the van.
giving allie super HIV that killed her fast was so wild too xdxdxdxdxd
Looks Could Kill also contains a photographic clue:
At the funeral held for Shiraz, a Mr Federman warns the survivors from the Coral Clipper disaster that the "shadow of Death" has fallen over them, meaning that they will die soon. Rose ignores the warning and pays the price. Later, though, Gunter finds a photograph taken the day before The Coral Clipper exploded. From left to right, the people in the photo are: Rose, Chardonnay, Shiraz, Chablis, Merlot (the head of the modelling agency; she died in the disaster), Sherry, Brut, Gunter, and Cabernet. Every person in the photo has their face shadowed or partially obscured, except for Sherry's - her face shines as if she were under a spotlight. This indicates that Sherry is the only person to be spared by Death, while all the others are under the shadow of Death. Gunter realizes too late that the order in which they were seated in the picture mirrors the order they were meant to die in: Death's list goes down Sherry's right, and then up her left. The victims are oriented around Sherry as if she's at the center of a sun dial. After Sherry allows Cabernet to give birth safely, Death's design changes, and the change is registered in the photo, which is magically altered: Cabernet is now brightly illuminated in the picture, while the shadow of Death has fallen upon Sherry instead. After stepping out into the world for the first time after a six-month hospitalization, Sherry is immediately run over by a bus.
And the bus has the word “Terminal” on it, as if the destination but also meaning “fatal”, because Sherry dies.
I like to imagine Evan was late cause he saw Alexs death and missed something that would have killed him,and I like to think clear had moved out of the way of something and pushed Tim which made Nora move out of the way to get him when a little later they would have died by something.
Thank you so much. I wish Nora, Tim and Evan surviving had been flushed out before they died.
I think the guy "impersonating" Death was actually someone Death had possessed. For some reason, Death needs a human body to manifest its powers properly and the deal with that model was an attempt at turning her into Death's next vessel
The deaths in final destination 5 still follows the rules of the order of the list. Peter died after Dennis, Sam died after Peter. Roy technically tintervened Nathan's death by picking a fight with Nathan leading to Nathan accidentally pushing Roy into the path of the hook and chain so Nathan was moved to the bottom of the list as he died last. Molly wasn't on the bridge collapse list so her death between Sam and Peter has nothing to do with the list.
For the longest time I thought Bloodworth was Death as he seemed to know SO much about how the rules worked. After this video, specifically the bit regarding Bloodworth's voice ringing out to Kimberly, I wonder if he is some higher being working against Death.
This is mostly a head-canon as Bloodworth "disappears" from the movie series so I'm sure the filmmakers weren't thinking that deeply into it.
Still though, love your videos. Just recently stumbled on them and have been binging them non-stop. Thanks for the content!
Clear’s death was so sad, Tod’s really broke me. I loved when this movie came out!
Death doing his job.
Few victims survive.
Me: Death sir, you missed a spot.
Finally, someone talks about the books 😭
I agree lol
I didn’t even know that there were books.
@@weirdoscorner1917 I didn't either until I was actually looking for more Final Destination content a few years back. No one mentions the books. I found one at a discount book store, but sadly I did not buy it.
@@isaacvargas4833 My friend had me watch the movies. After watching four of them I was about to watch the fifth one but I didn’t because I was so scared death was coming for me so I watched something happy.
I didn't even know there were books lmao
I think it’s a little weird that Sam and molly didn’t get off the plane when Alex freaked out cause Sam would have recognized it as a premonition
Honestly if they added the idea of a few immortal people that cheat death sounds interesting and maybe there could be a minor antagonist in a future installment that maybe is like a few days away from getting taken by death so perhaps the rule could be that those people can only kill other survivors to perhaps "please" death and sort of get rewarded in a loose sense with being allowed to stay alive a little longer but the time would be short so that they are more likely to not succeed so death can still get it's target.
I think we can confirm that death is unstoppable no matter what you do because in the “Choose their fate” feature on the Final Destination 3 DVD you can analyze a newspaper that a man is reading at the end of the movie. In this newspaper it talks about how Kimberly died in a wood chipper accident. So even though she was revived, death still came for her.
Imagine a series about Death when he sees all of these survivors and is really annoyed, so is trying to kill them. Id watch that.
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The agency planning the end of the world does exactly that.
Creating a jigsaw puzzle of events which will lead to Doomsday.
In Death of The Senses, Jack was supposed to be the sixth sense that the killer discovered after the 5 victims.
Yeah that actually makes a lot of sense because when I first heard about Jack dying at the end of the book despite not being a part of the list that made no sense to me because what reason would death have to go after Jack plus Jack is the one that has the vision in the novel that saves the police officer and kills the serial killer.
That... or it’s a representation of Jack the Ripper. Instead of him killing five people he prevented at least 5, but ends up dying because of it
@@spencertang5155 in death of the senses it was said that the sixth would be revealed after the killing of the five and that sixth man was Jack He was the sixth sense.
Jack the ripper actually does show up but in destination zero.
@@AncapOtaku I know, it was just a thought.
@@spencertang5155 I see
I like how much references the movies make to the books now that i see them. "end of the line" is an example with the last stop on final destination 3 being said with "End of the line" while it corrupts his speaking.
One thing I have always wondered about this series is who gives them the premonitions? Is it something certain people are inclined to or is it from another being similar in power to death?
Fun Fact/Spoilers: Destination Zero has Sherlock Holmes and Watson, and Jack The Ripper in it in the Victorian England section.
I would like a movie about Frane Selak. The man survived basically every major plot (or at least a variation of it) of FD - and he's still kicking it to this day.
Who?
I thought he died in 2016 at age 87. I am curious how he died though, because I couldn't find anywhere if it was old age or something more tragic.
Regardless, if all the things he lived through were true, and hitting big on the lottery, then that's just super crazy!
Like you said I'd definitely watch a movie about it. Or add him into a final destination movie where he's survived all these crazy things, and lives to old age somehow finding a way to beat death.
I don't know if anyone else would enjoy that, but I would lol.
In the route 23 pile up, Kimberley's friends apparently count as survivors as they didn't die the way they were meant to in the pile up but I don't think they were on death's list with kim in the first place and where just written in to the design
FD3 always confuses me. 10 people got off of the ride but in the vision we never see Frankie,Julie and her friend die, they just disappear from their seats before everyone gets stuck on the loop
If I can recall, Julie and her friend are actually the ones that fall when they get stuck on the loop. If you look closely you can see.
Personally I think Bludworth is a kinda servant of death by giving info in a way that adds more people to death's list in the long run, maybe he made some sort of deal with death to prolong his life in exchange of adding more people to the list.
Also Death is confirmed to be very petty when the time is needed
"If he's so smart why is he dead?" Homer Simpson
That one dislike is Death upset that you're telling its secrets lol
I’ve always been a supporter of the idea the visions were given by Death with the intention that just the seer (or the seer & those they were driving) survives till a later date. It just so happens the series highlights events where the seer a) went nuts over the vision rather than shaking it off as a bad dream/premonition and b) was believed....so, like, the opposite of Cassandra
Love the 'Cassandra Effect'.
Especially in Wendy's case.
Outrunning death was never the end goal.
Wendy was a tortured 'soul', controlling and stuck up.
By trying to save others, maybe she proved herself being worthy of 'salvation'!?
She even manages to fix her relationship with her younger sister.
This concept is not new.
Bored & cruel deities and powerless human beings trying to beat the 'game'.
The Old Testament has (H)ijob.
Goethe created Faust.
Orpheus und Eurydice are the only version that feels like a 'Happy End'.
thank you i've been trying to tell people this! This was the point of all the movies! Thank you for seeing inbetween the explosions and cars and stuff. :P
I think Death's duty is to make sure a certain timeline of events are supposed to happen, no one knows what the final picture is, but death is not a form of consequence, but merely a byproduct of maintaining the timeline of events
I always thought Bludworth was death, but now, given that he kind of thwarts Death's plans, I wonder if he's actually life? He gave Kimberly a premonition and is there to give them advice on how to avoid dying.