I respect this perspective, however, there have been cases where God has done that as you say, therefore He does ordain marriage in my belief. Yes we have free will, but only if it lines up with His Will will He bless ours. I don't believe God likes divorce, which is why when you marry the right person instead of who you think is the right person, the marriage lasts. People try on marriages like clothes these day's and God is not the author of confusion. I believe if you truly seek God's Will for your mate, He won't have you marry someone only for it to end in divorce. Free will is something we are given even though God already knows our choices or responses. We don't ALWAYS get it right, but it's how we learn. I don't think God ever leads anyone astray who truly seeks and listens to His wisdom & guiding, even for a spouse. I think through free will He definitely helps us choose and make the right choice. Like other thing's where we fail at or misread, regroup, dust ourselves off and try again, I don't think God intends this for marriage. What God joins/yokes let no man set asunder (Interpret as you will). You can date people in a Godly manner until you find the right one, but marriage should be final. As Christians we can agree to disagree and still love one another. I'm just the percentage who believe's God does ordain marriage. There's no verbatim wording in the Bible that says it; there's also no verbatim wording about abortion or undergoing gender surgery, but surrounding scriptures does support whether it's right or wrong. So many people say thing's like the Bible doesn't say a couple can't live together before marriage, but supporting scripture does say we should avoid and flee circumstances that could lead to sin. Either way, if your will lines up with His, He will bless & prosper it.
I agree that there are times when God does tell us who to marry, for instance, He told Hosea who to marry because He was trying to speak to His people who had gone astray in a way that they would understand. The purpose of marriage is for it to be a symbol of Christ to the church, which is also why I believe God hates divorce because it symbolizes the separation of Christ from the church.(Ephesians 5:22-30) (To be clear: I am not advising anyone to marry a person similar to Hosea's wife). I give this example because it is natural for us as humans to want to be able to explain what seems to have no explanation. God's ways our not our ways; His thoughts are not our thoughts (Isaiah 55:8-9). Also, there are things He will choose to reveal to us and then there are things that we will not understand, that's part of faith. I believe, when it comes to a Christ centered marriage, that both we need to seek God for direction, while also evaluating the person's relationship with Jesus/their convictions compared to our own. I do believe that if we marry someone with whom we are equally yoked, that God will bless that decision because of the individuals' heart posture. Our motives are important to God, not just our actions (Hebrews 4:12-13;Matthew 7:21-23) which I believe should give God's children peace. However, I also believe if we are out of alignment with God's will, things will at least initially be more complicated than intended until both surrender to His authority. So, I don't think that God just blesses our free will to bless our free will. We do have consequences for disobedience; His mercy, long-suffering, and forgiveness is often times what makes us assume that our decisions are being blessed but in reality He is giving us time to heed His correction. 2 Peter 3:9-10 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. And I also agree with your comment on free will. Yes, we all have free will which is why there is so much evil in the world because people do choose to use their free will to serve Satan (some knowingly and many unknowingly). While God does rain on the just and unjust (Matthew 5:45); He also makes it clear that there will be consequences. (Galatians 6:7) The Israelites could have possessed the promised land long before they actually did had they been faithful and immediately obedient to God's Word. Instead they allowed fear to paralyze them when they were to take the land of Canaan. When they finally got the courage to do so, God told them that they would no longer be successful at that time due to their initial distrust in Him. They used their free will to pursue the attack on the Canaanites after their initial disobedience but were defeated. (Numbers 13-14) I think the freedom as a Christian is surrendering to God and following His written Word concerning all matters. When things come up that appear to not be directly applicable that's when we rest on knowing that He is a good Father and knows His children.(I do think God will give revelation to current issues through His Word, we just have to be still and patient). God will course correct those who want His will and HE even reaches out to those who don't necessarily want to be corrected because He loves us. When we make the wrong decisions (which we will from time to time), He will correct us, give us revelation and depending on the type of decision, give us the grace to navigate the repercussions of those decisions. 2 Peter 1:3-8 3 His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to[c] his own glory and excellence,[d] 4 by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire. 5 For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue,[e] and virtue with knowledge, 6 and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, 7 and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. 8 For if these qualities[f] are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Tisha Fay Amen! Here is an example of the Lord specifically choosing a spouse for someone: ‘And let it come to pass, that the damsel to whom I shall say, Let down thy pitcher, I pray thee, that I may drink; and she shall say, Drink, and I will give thy camels drink also: 🔥let the same be she that Thou hast appointed for Thy servant Isaac🔥; and thereby shall I know that Thou hast shewed kindness unto my master.’ ~ Genesis 24:14 (KJV)
Listen to 18:00 and after:) We share that perspective too because we believe God operates differently with different people. We picked the title and topic to challenge common thinking and belief systems in the christian church of the people who are just waiting for a God ordained moment when in fact that may not be how God is going to move with that person. Just challenging thinking:)
@@frisebelle Listen to 18:00 and after:) We share that perspective too because we believe God operates differently with different people. We picked the title and topic to challenge common thinking and belief systems in the christian church of the people who are just waiting for a God ordained moment when in fact that may not be how God is going to move with that person. Just challenging thinking:)
I have to disagree. Yes, God gave us free will; however, he knows what is best for us because he knows each and everyone of us through and through. If in my free will, I ask the Lord to intervene and help me pick the right one and change everything in me that would desire a particular person who is not God's best for me, I do think he will honor that request. If you ask Him, in your own free will, to block you from marrying the wrong person, He will. To say that God doesn't have an opinion on who you marry wouldn't make sense esp. if the purpose of a God-ordained marriage is not just to love one another, but to effectively carry out the purpose of God, that would mean to me that surely God knows and cares that you marry someone who will be MOST EFFECTIVE in helping you fulfill that specific purpose in the best way. Moreover, the bible does say to test the spirits/voices you hear, as the enemy can also speak to us posing as light. I think individuals who have heard that someone is the "one" for them and got it wrong, most likely heard a voice that was posing to be God and wasn't. That is why it says in 1 John 4 to test every voice/spirit you hear to make sure it is truly God: "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. 4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error."
I agree with u 100 % because she heard the word from the enemy now she opposed everything from God... We saw many people God gave them their spouse through dreams and vision.. Surely this couple they don't know God as they think they know him.. For their future advice they mustn't come to this platform if they didn't not read their Bible ans seek wisdom to God to understand his way of doing things.
I respect you opinions and I can see your line of reasoning. I definitely think we have free will and can choose our spouse, however I think God does have specific people picked for us! BUT Him having a person for us doesn't mean we aren't responsible for things like: being spiritually, emotionally healthy, being obedient, leaning into God's wisdom. We still have a responsibility to work our faith and hope muscles! Just because someone is meant to be my husband doesn't exclude me from working towards the health of the relationship and the health of myself! Some people use it as a cop-out to not do any work towards a relationship. I can't expect to be able to run a marathon if I don't train for it. Just because God says I'll break a huge record at the race doesn't exempt me from diligently training and choosing to train and eat and rest well. Also, if you aren't hearing God in other spaces of your life, then it doesn't make sense you would hear super clearly about a spouse!
This is literally the best explanation I have ever heard on this topic. All the pressure comes off when you know that when you're seeking God's heart, you literally can't fail. This was so encouraging to me and brought me so much peace! Thank you guys so much for sharing your hearts!
God has a direct will & a permissive will. We can choose freely which one we want to be in. The one thing I agree with is that God will not take a mans free will away from him.
He's both in charge and in control. We can trust him. He's not narcissistic. There are things that are beyond the realm of our decision but if God he's in control we can go to sleep with both eyes closed, literally. God is in control because he's the one with all the power, dominion, authority, destinies etc. He's still in control because we can still rejoice in our trials and he doesn't let us get tempted beyond what we can bear. Our freewill only determines how we react in these scenarios and that is strengthened by having the Holy Spirit. I'm glad God is actually in control because the story of this earth is gonna pan out how he wrote it. His control is overarching and all our little thoughts, feelings and reactions are proscribed within that.
I believe God can put two people together if he wishes to do so. An example is Abraham and Sarah; he wanted Abraham to be the father of the promise, and Sarah to be the mother (Not Hagar) God can still use the process of election in Romans 9 to join two people together for whatever reason. He knew us before the foundation of the earth and maybe knows these people can achieve whatever he put in them effectively, if they are together. Marriage is a ministry after all. I took away a lot of great things from this video that made me check my heart. Thank you!
I like your approach to this topic. Think it’s both. Think certain people with special callings need a particular kind of spouse to partner with. Then I think there are others who could pick 5 different people and you could still have a good marriage. We still hold responsibility with whomever you choose. Totally agree with your husband on this one. If God talks to you about a spouse, surely he should be able to talk to you about other things. Think getting married to anyone is an act of faith. There are no guarantees. Marriage is work for Christians and non .
Beautiful message. Thank you.. However, just wanted to share my personal belief about whether God's in control.. I believe he actually is. And I believe he allows pain and suffering because without it, we could not know what things like joy, love, and peace are. You cannot know light without experiencing dark. To someone who has never seen day, night is not night. It is just the permanent natural state.
I’m am so grateful that I watched this video. I am at a loss of words. Everything that you guys said just put peace in my heart. And makes me want to ask God the right questions. Thank you. Praise God.
It is important to remain a student in our lives... to realize God leads by peace, and to ensure we are never forcing anything. God’s guidance is real... and so is His true love, blessings, mercies, and compassion💛stay blessed beautiful 🕊brothers and sisters.💜
I understand some of your points but I really think some of the theology is off. Like Joseph, God told Him that He was going to rule over his brother. But terrible things happened to him before all of that. It is very important to know and ask God for confirmation and not base it off our feelings. He will give us confirmation about our spouse. This is why it is important to test the spirits and like you said have intimacy with him.
I appreciate your wisdom. There is many reasons that God may speak to someone and tell them they are the one. I believe in my own experience it was to teach me self control, about hope, humility and being humble. I would not change anything about trusting God even if led to turbulent times!
There is a big IF and a BUT.... hear me out..... I believe that the man you end up with, is the man that God chose....... only because I believe the greatest way to honor your creator is to do the work within yourself to be the person God designed you to be, free of all the chains (past trauma, triggers, pain etc etc)..... basically, you have to be whole within yourself and living in your purpose. At the very least, you must be awoken to the journey of healing.....in touch with your heart and soul.... doing right by them. When you reach that point in your journey, is the point at which you will attract your mate. You attract what you put out. So if your vibrating at your highest frequency, living your truth, solid within yourself and free of chains......you will attract what was meant for you. You wont settle for less than what you were designed for. In this space, I believe you choose what God has already laid out. So its free will....... you have to choose to honor yourself and God by digging deep and aiming high, to be the best version of yourself........ to find whats truly meant for you. To live with purpose. To reach in and fill the place within ourselves that we all long to reach. Everyone is out searching for something to fill their emptiness, we are looking in all the wrong places, driven by fear and ego, expecting others to fill this space and make us whole, or the next goal or the next goal, and we still come up empty. alot of us never realize that what we are seeking, is that which, we can only find if we go within ourselves...... it exists there. Dig for it. Do the work. Harness your authentic self. Be bold in your journey to heal and to find yourself...... when you take the journey into self discovery and healing....... you will find that what you were missing was you! You have to heal and find you...... to beable to take the "free will" God gave you and recieve that which is meant for you. Any "free will" you exert before that, isnt Gods work. So, i dont think its as black and white as one may think..... is it free will? Yes! Is it Gods choosing? YES! BUT Your "free will" looks alot different with chains ..... than it does when its blessed. What work do you need to do to align your free will with Gods design? Thats where the magic happens ! ❤ Dont settle for ego driven fear based free will...... fill yourself up with your purpose...... let the free will God meant for you take you over.
Deuteronomy 18:22 King James Version (KJV) 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Point blank, if it doesn't happen, God didn't say it will! You just thought He did. God is omniscient and incapable of lying. He WILL NOT make a promise when He knows the other person will forever choose to turn away from it.
What if the person was told by revelation that it is His will but it may or may not happen- and He let me know the open doors to how it may not come to pass? Im here like...waiting.
I believe there are times when God does tell people who to marry, for instance, He told Hosea who to marry because He was trying to speak to His people who had gone astray in a way that they would understand. The purpose of marriage is for it to be a symbol of Christ to the church, which is also why I believe God hates divorce because it symbolizes the separation of Christ from the church(Ephesians 5:22-30) (To be clear: I am not advising anyone to marry a person similar to Hosea's wife). I give this example because it is natural for us as humans to want to be able to explain what seems to have no explanation. God's ways our not our ways; His thoughts are not our thoughts (Isaiah 55:8-9). Also, there are things He will choose to reveal to us and then there are things that we will not understand, that's part of faith. I do agree with Spencer in that if someone hears from God who their spouse is, they should have a history of hearing from God through their intimate relationship with Him for other situations outside of themselves and for themselves to not only include perceive blessings but also correction. These revelations should increase their intimacy with God, NOT just on the topic of their spouse but in all matters. The Word of God says to test every spirit, we are also to do this for ourselves. Jesus had to correct the disciples when the people of Jerusalem did not accept Jesus or the disciples. The disciples who at this point had seen many miracles and God’s sovereignty asked Jesus if they should pray for fire to consume the city like Elijah did. Jesus rebuked them in saying “You do not know what spirit you are operating in.” because they were speaking AGAINST God’s will. This is why it’s important to test EVERY spirit to the Word of God. (Luke 9:55-56 KJV). I believe, when it comes to a Christ centered marriage, that both need to seek God for direction, while also evaluating the person's relationship with Jesus/their convictions compared to our own. I do believe that if we marry someone with whom we are equally yoked, that God will bless that decision because of the individuals' heart posture. Our motives are important to God, not just our actions (Hebrews 4:12-13;Matthew 7:21-23) which I believe should give God's children peace. However, I also believe if we are out of alignment with God's will, things will at least initially be more complicated than intended until both surrender to His authority. So, I don't think that God just blesses our free will to bless our free will. We do have consequences for disobedience; His mercy, long-suffering, and forgiveness is often times what makes us assume that our decisions are being blessed but in reality He is giving us time to heed His correction. 2 Peter 3:9-10 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Yes, we all have free will which is why there is so much evil in the world because people do choose to use their free will to serve Satan (some knowingly and many unknowingly). While God does rain on the just and unjust (Matthew 5:45); He also makes it clear that there will be consequences. (Galatians 6:7) The Israelites could have possessed the promised land long before they actually did had they been faithful and immediately obedient to God's Word. Instead they allowed fear to paralyze them when they were to take the land of Canaan. When they finally got the courage to do so, God told them that they would no longer be successful at that time due to their initial distrust in Him. They used their free will to pursue the attack on the Canaanites after their initial disobedience but were defeated. (Numbers 13-14) I think the freedom as a Christian is surrendering to God and following His written Word concerning all matters. When things come up that appear to not be directly applicable that's when we rest on knowing that He is a good Father and knows His children.(I do think God will give revelation to current issues through His Word, we just have to be still and patient). God will course correct those who want His will and HE even reaches out to those who don't necessarily want to be corrected because He loves us. When we make the wrong decisions (which we will from time to time), He will correct us, give us revelation and depending on the type of decision, give us the grace to navigate the repercussions of those decisions. 2 Peter 1:3-8 3 His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to[c] his own glory and excellence,[d] 4 by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire. 5 For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue,[e] and virtue with knowledge, 6 and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, 7 and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. 8 For if these qualities[f] are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Listen to 18:00 and after:) We share that perspective too because we believe God operates differently with different people. We picked the title and topic to challenge common thinking and belief systems in the christian church of the people who are just waiting for a God ordained moment when in fact that may not be how God is going to move with that person. Just challenging thinking:)
God arranges marriages but he doesn't send you into that battle field all by yourself. It is we who choose to tell him goodbye and to shut the door and leave him in the cold until the house gets too hot for us and we want some of his cool air. Seeking a marriage partner is about being faithful to the Holy Spirit first and knowing that the marriage is between three persons not two. Each of the human halves form a good relationship with the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit brings them together better and better. Even when they're making love, the Holy Spirit is there and helps the woman conceive. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Love, power and a sound mind. He gives us the power to love with a sound mind and not emotional feelings and manipulation. God chooses our spouse. He chose for Adam but because Adam didn't do his job of washing her with the water of the word, the enemy came in and made her a feminist. God determines the rules of engagement and gives us his Spirit to enable us do his will and if marriage doesn't work, it doesn't mean God is to blame for giving us a spouse but we are to blame for choosing to exclude him from the marriage and not at least sticking to his written rules. The World makes us feel like God is not interested in things like kissing and love making when he invented it. So we shut him out...but he wants to be involved in everything... I want God to choose my spouse. And I know that for as long as I seek his Spirit first in myself and a spouse, all the features I desire will be added unto me. God bless you all!
Helen Enang agreed with a lot of what you said but completely disagree with your idea that “Satan came in and made her a feminist.” Jesus is a feminist-no, not a worldly one, but he absolutely believes in equality. Feminism is not of the devil.
I don’t agree with everything but I appreciate this discussion and I do believe that dating/marriage can be overly spiritualized. Thanks for sharing this 🙏🏾😊
I loved how you closed this because I actually was like well there goes me thinking the man in my life right now is my husband. To be honest I had a dream shortly after we met at church that he was but I’m still till this day not sure if that was God or my own desire. We are very close friends. He actually was interested in one of my friends at the time but she turned him down. I never thought I would have feelings for him. I wasn’t initially attracted to him but after us being friends for about two months I totally said to myself I would say yes in a heartbeat if he asked me to marry him. I fell in love with his spirit. I always tell him I love the INSIDE of him. I don’t think he feels the same way about me but to be honest I trust God SO MUCH that if he never ask me to marry him I will continue on with life in PEACE because at the end of it all we are best friends and I want nothing but to see him happy with who he truly wants to be with. I also know by being in a friendship with him, I now know what to look for in my one day husband. It would just be totally awesome if it was him. Thank you for this video. It totally gave me another perspective. Free will. We choose. Keep it simple. Sometimes one is not ready. No scripture to back up that God ordains marriages. Honestly that’s even more scary because you mean to tell me I literally have to pick. Like I have to trust my own judgement on one of thee most important decisions I’ll ever make in my entire life. Yikes! Thank you guys!! 🙏🏾☺️💜🙏🏾
Don't get carried away by this troublesome doctrine. The way to be sure that God sent this person is for you to look at your personal conviction and relationship with the Spirit of God. Are you committed to pursuing the righteousness of God's kingdom? Do you cherish the peace and joy of the Holy Spirit? Then look at their lives, do they value their relationship with the Holy Spirit more than they value you? If he does then God sent him. Marriage is between three persons not two. You're individually married to the Holy Spirit and it is he who then joins both of you together. Remember the phrase, "what God therefore had joined together,let not man put asunder"...? God will not give you someone to replace himself in your life. He can definitely allow you marry someone he didn't send but you have to realise that this is your choice and that you have made a commitment to give your 100% in every situation in that marriage no matter how the other person is acting. The dangerous part of such a union is that the other party may be very resistant to your faith and your relationship with God will suffer. However, if you're married to someone who's commited to pleasing God, then you can be sure God will honor your union and be your advocate before God and before your spouse. Remember how God advocated for Mary before Joseph? He still does that... Note that Joseph was a man who heard and obeyed God. You can definitely meet someone and marry them based on how you feel but if you want God's choice then you need to have a sound mind to make that judgement and decision. You have to seperate your emotions from your judgement. How? 1. Don't rely on signs and wonders of how you met them 2. Don't be fixated on the things they do or don't do as bases for your choosing them. People change. 3. Don't hinge your choice on their personal convictions and values, they may emanate from wrong foundations or bad experiences. Instead, Look for: 1. How has the word of God and having the Holy Spirit transformed their lives, personally? 2. How much are they unplugged from pop culture? Totally free or partially connected? 3. How vehemently do the flee sexual sin? Are they in the full amour of God or at least trying to put in on daily but putting the flesh to death? 4. Are they obedient to Christ, submissive to authority and responsible for things in their possession? 5. What fruits of the Spirit particularly endears them to you? 6. Do they have the grooming to make sound decisions? I hope this helps. If you'd like to learn more about what makes a woman qualify as wife, please reply to this comment.
I agree with this 100%!! I’ve recently learned this through many years of painful lessons but I feel as if I finally understand that God’s “green light” on a specific person really actually means: “Go find out if this will work for you and bring you joy!”’ God trusts us to co-create with Him and I’m so grateful!! Now I trust that I will know for me and God loves for me to choose for myself!! Thank you for bringing this up! Such an important truth! What a good Father we have ❤️❤️❤️
This was a really interesting and encouraging video, I'm thankful that you guys addressed these topics because they have brought me a lot of stress and shame as well. I like that you differentiated between our free will and God's sovereign power over everything He's made, but I feel like the way you phrased it made God look less than omnipotent, which is not how He reveals Himself to us in His Word. I think it would be more accurate to say that God is omnipotent over all of His creation and He has the power to control us and our will without giving us the freedom to choose, the way some people view Him. However, I think Sammi's reference to Genesis where God gives humans free will and puts us in charge of the world is evidence that God, in His infinite power, chose not to exercise control over the human will and allows us to have control of that ourselves. This allows Him to have a deep relationship with us and work in us to accomplish His will instead of just using us as inanimate tools, also like what Sammi said. The flipside to that is that He, being the perfect, omnipotent Ruler and Creator of the world, holds us accountable for what we do with our free will. If we are selfish with our free will and use it to reject salvation and a relationship with God, we suffer the consequences. If we make a personal choice to accept salvation and surrender our will to God's guidance, then we receive the inherent rewards of that choice.
It’s so, so nice to hear what your experiences were like. We are all different, and it’s nice to know how you all were able to conclude God’s perfect will for you both. In awe of God’s beauty🌹🌹🌹
Beautiful Blessed Couple. What I notice is sitting patiently , listening, and being respectful of each other’s thoughts. No control here. God’s Blessings to you both. Absolutely let God into your heart . I feel that being loyal, exclusively , being Honest and being faithful to each other exclusively. Cherish.
Yes GOD will show us who to marry & or who our spouse is.... GOD does ordain marriages, free will is only if it's HIS WILL for us & lined up with who HE has for us...we CANNOT pick & chose who we want & ask GOD to fix this person for us. That is NOT Scriptural & that's NOT what GOD does...people have a list of how they want their spouse to be, but if the "list" isn't lined up with GOD or HIS WILL for you, get rid of it...waiting on GOD for a spouse for those who are waiting for marriage, is the best thing we can do while being single. He will put everything in perspective in His Timing...
14:?? Pause! You just cleared something major up for me! I just wanna Hug HIS HEART!! Thank you for letting HIM SHINE thru you, & after spending the AM in tears....I'm no longer ?ing if ELOHIM/GOD LED me here. HE'S SPEAKING & REVEALING, through you both & just RUACH HAKO'DESH(HOLY SPIRIT) incredibly! So excited again! 👐☝💓🙌 -Azariah/SuburbaKnight PS 20:1, 6-8; IS 43; IS 38:15-20; JOHN 14:11-21
Okay, so my biggest thing is that I’m just uncomfortable with the wording “God’s not in control.” I think you guys explain really well what you mean-but that specific wording is hard for me just because of its implications. HOWEVER!! Other than me just being picky and having a hard time with particular verbiage, this video was PROFOUND. So much wisdom!! In my heart, I agree so much with all that you have said. Thank you for making this and sharing this! This is an area of so much pain for so many Christians, myself included, and I appreciate you guys being bold and sharing truth!
I’m going through a heart healing round 1000😂 (Marriage prep!!!!) I will be binge watching all your vids this summer! Get ready! ❤ Removing the idol of marriage and placing Jesus on my heart’s thrown.
I totally agreed with the both of you. Idk how I ended up on this side of youtub3, but im fasting and one of my main points is about marriage and the man I'm currently with. Glad to hear these things. It truly helps. Definitely got a new subscriber. 🙏🏾
This was beautiful, so empowering, and grounded some of the thoughts and opinions that I have regarding finding a partner, marriage, free will, and God's role in our life. Here is a quick jot of my takeaways: marriage is about two people choosing each other, may our free will be in alignment with what God spoke, God is not in control of everything, He gave us free will and gave humans dominion over Earth, God blesses our free will (like what you speak about our heart's desires), He would like us to find a partnership that pulls us closer to God, the idea of viewing God as a loving parent who is supportive of our decisions when He sees that it could lead to something good long term, two people willing to lean in, choose love, and choose each other, to feel united in our belief systems, in the meantime and always: delight in the Lord and find where your needs are met.
I love you both and I hope God really adjusts some of your views... Some of the things said in this video will unknowingly make some who're weak in faith go astray. Also, stay away from the movies. You may think you're really strong and grounded but it's really eroding the strength of your convictions and it is showing. May the Holy Spirit keep leading you into all truth!
I chose my ex-boyfriend, but felt that God had blessed it. I have been stepping away from that as I pray because we are taking a break right now. I am trying to allow enough space for free will to blossom in both of us.
God also leads people to eachother in the bible. God presented Eve to Adam. Comfirmed by a sign when a servant was sent to find the wife or when was was told about his prostitute wife. But yes we do have to choose or pass
God has control over everything he is in control there's a purpose for everything the pain and suffering that happens in the world is for a purpose. We are in his hands
So many times we want God to tell us to marry a specific person, and we think that if God tells us to marry someone that there won't be hardships in the marriage and that everything will be perfect. We want God to tell us what to do so we don't have to be responsible for the consequences of us doing what we think He told us to do. This is unhealthy. I've been through this three times now, where I thought God wanted me to marry someone but it turned out they didn't like me back or I never saw them again. The last time it happened, someone believed God told her he was the one for me but it caused so much confusion and anxiety and triggers and chaos for me that I finally realized that that was not God, because God is not the author of confusion. I didn't even really know the person and had only talked to him twice, and I didn't even feel ready to be in a relationship anyway. Just because you hear a voice saying, "That's your future husband/wife" doesn't mean it's from God, even if it feels like lightning from heaven. I don't understand what that all is, I've been through it myself, but it's not necessarily God if nothing happens as a result of it, or if it causes you anxiety and hinders your living right now. Also, I know many young people including myself by habit have the thought "That's your future spouse" for pretty much any attractive person of the opposite gender that we meet, and of course if you're hearing it for every person you meet, that's an intrusive thought, it's not God.
Every desire is from god, because everything is God. The good the bad and the indifferent. You were triggered not because the person meant to harm you , but because you had unresolved childhood trauma to heal. The person touched your wound. Self love is the most important love.
I completely agree and also went through many words of prophecy (which I do believe in) that ended in disaster. One was a marriage that crushed me and left me hurt and embarrassed. God gives us free will... if a person doesn’t choose you then God can’t bless it
OH MY GOSH YOU GUYS!!!!!!! So I’ve thought I’ve been hearing this same thing from God, and from scripture. I thought I was crazy. Thanks for listening to him. I’m mind blow honestly. Gods so cool. I learned so much. Ok it’s 3 am round these parts it’s time to turn in. Love ya guys!
Oh guys grateful for your vid. Keep moving forward. I think we should remember God does things anyway he wants to, simply because He knows us better than we know ourselves. Blessings to you!
I agree Sammi. God knows what will happen because he knows the beginning from the end he knows what you will choose but he doesn't MAKE you choose that. He will bless your choices when you do make them though.
Thankful for this. My auntie said she prayed for a husband and believes God gave her hers, however the other side of the coin is she also said if it wasn't that man, she would have another man. Hmmm. What this looks like is God giving us opportunities, but we choose. I don't know if you guys read comments on here.
My mother (RIP) on the other hand did not pray for a husband and she had my dad (and it ended ugly). :( Not trying to say praying always guarantees a decent marriage or marriage at all but just saying how two sisters experiences went. They also had a third sister who's husband had a stroke and she cared for him.
You mentioned (22:20 ) that there’s no where in scripture where it mentions that God creation someone just for the other but there is. “fear not, for she is appointed unto thee from the beginning” Tobit 6:17 This subject has always been so interesting to me and kinda hard to understand because the word does reveal in scripture God makes someone for you since the beginning of time but yet we have free will.
Wow you two! I am so blessed and impressed and grateful for what you are sharing. Stop the madness! I have had Charismatic or as I sometimes say Charasmaniac experiences with relationships. It can make a person question God and the goodness of God when it goes off the rails. I love you.pointing out about Idols. I feel that is SO important. Anything even good can become an Idol over the Lord. Sammi I also love your take on choosing well. So very good. I also am an introvert and have been concerned about ever finding someone who understands that. We can't force it to happen . Thank you.
Arranged marriages have a lower divorce rate than marriages where people choose each other :) Great video though and if we trust God and fix our eyes on Him, and full full force toward Him, we'll find that person who is taking that same journey
About 10 years ago I prayed for a wife. I prayed for 6 specific things. The first one was that I am very shy so I wanted the woman to approach and show interest first. I also prayed that I wanted to meet her in church and that I wanted to hear from her that she loved me. About 2 months later everything happened. I met an amazing woman in church and she was really nice to me. The more we became friends the more I found things I liked about her. She used to tell me that I was the best man she had met in her life. She had some friends in church that were always inviting her to go to bars and places like that for girls night. One day I noticed she was acting weird. She was going out with another guy without telling me. It broke my heart. I was depressed for many months, left that church and was very confused. I really thought she was the answer to my prayer. Everything I prayed for happened. Until today I am still trying to understand what happened. It has been 10 years and I am still thinking on her. There is always something that reminds me of her even if I try to forget. We used to go outside to watch the full moon so every time there is a full moon reminds me of her. I am still trying to understand if she was God's answer to me.
@@bodnarova05 Your assessment is totally wrong. I just wrote a few lines and you make an assessment which requires much more knowledge of the situation. This is called "Job's friends syndrome" . When Christians don't know what is going on they just try to find any excuse, most of the time just blaming the person and make him/her guilt of something. Many people do their best but things just don't happen. For some people things come easier for other people will be harder doesn't matter how much you try. When God wants to help you He will even with your deficiencies. I've been in single's groups for many years and by coincidence the more attractive people always find another attractive in the group meanwhile many never have a chance.
@@airplane800 sorry if this upsets you but I’m a life coach and therapist . I mean no offence. All is possible to him who believes . Key word BELIEVES. Believe that you are amazing , smart, special, handsome. People reflect back what you believe about yourself. Work on inner child healing. The way you write about yourself comes from a ‘low ‘ place. Let the weak man say, I am strong! Quit putting yourself down. At the end you imply youre insecure about your looks. Stop looking for the one and become the one you love. I was just like you , in a victim mindset even though I am model like attractive, I couldn’t find the one because I DIDNT think I was enough or lovable.
VERY GOOD! I was shown also and im waiting. The confirmations get strong! Its ok because im all the Lords so me being overly anxious just means i have more dying to do. I WANT to be confident with my purpose then im sure he will swoop in and drop her in. But i can say the Journey there has meaning and its FUN! SO just relax if he spoke to you get know the lord first even more! MARRY HIM! then the blessings will blow on you knocking you over hah!
This is really good! Sometimes we over spiritualize stuff and we make Walking with God extremely difficult. It's bringing up a lot of pain. Yet, I hear truth from both of you. Choice ... I do believe that God sometimes works and tells you your spouse if it is for some Divine Purpose of doing his work out the field as missionaries or a big call (Finding a bride for Isaac), but sometimes God can be very practical. You've given me a lot of things to ponder but in a good way. You are both a special and lovely couple. Thank you!
The mindset that Sammi had two yrs ago was actually accurate to say. Maybe u thought you heard from God that a certain person was ur husband indeed when God didn't say that u probably wasn't sure. He is a God that cannot lie and does have a certain one for the other. We just have to be patient, fast, and pray. Some things only happen through fasting and that can go for hearing the voice of God regarding your spouse. Even though God gave man Dominion over the animals and we do have free will, however the control is in God's hand. If we choose to do our own will rather than God we have to pay for the consequences. Evilness happens to the world because Satan is the God of this world. With some people not having Christ spirit, this world is bound for destruction. It is also prophesied in the Bible that the world will come to an end. This is not our resting-place. After this life end there's a heaven and hell. The born-again and repentful will make it to heaven and the ones that choose to live for this world will be in hell 🙏💯🙏
Paul spoke of celibacy and singlehood as a blessed state, more specifically, a gift. In 1 Corinthians, he wrote, ... But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another. To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am.” (1 Cor7:7, 8, ESV)
I think there's a misunderstanding here of what the phrase "God is control" mean. I agree we have a choice though! I think the seeming contradiction is a mystery or paradox, not actually conflicting.
I love you guys both and have listened to quite a few of your wonderful podcasts. I truly believe you both are spreading His light! There is however scripture that states God telling someone to take a particular wife. Hosea..
Thanks!! And we know- we've read all those scriptures...more addressing the pendulum swing of a lot of christians nowadays "only hearing God" about a spouse and not much else. Also, it still requires personal choice
That's good about the idol as a husband/wife. I believe that your yoke has to be equal. If you are with someone who is not living a godly life and doesn't have a intimate relationship with God, they are out of the equation.
99.9% is a huge generalization. I’ve known many people where God told them who they would marry and it worked out. I agree that some people don’t know. I think God should be guiding your step every step of the way. He should definitely be confirming if you should be dating a person. Yes we have free will, but He does speak to people. And if He is speaking to people and they hear Him on jobs and where to live and healing heal others then why shouldn’t God give them a clear answer about who they’re going to marry?
I'm probably making this decision on whether or not to stay with this person more difficult than it needs to be. He feels very strongly that I'm his wife but I haven't gotten that same definite answer. I had peace about the relationship until two of my Christian girlfriends both told me that they do not believe this man is my husband. I've had so much anxiety since then I want to obey God and I get the feeling He wants me to leave
At 14:05 Spencer mentions "God never says He uses someone", but I actually see in scripture that God used people for His purpose. So I don't understand why he said that God doesn't use people.
The bad things that happen are because we would not know good and come to know God and have a relationship with him if we did not have the contrast of sin on this planet. A sinless world would make us equivalent to God which we are not. It is for our own learning and growth.
lol Thank you. I wish you'd keep my comments. Inquiring minds would like to know what truths you have to present since you are so certain about what you mentioned in the video. This seems to happen often I see ..
So AGAIN: I said I wasn't going to comment but .. this is too deep lol if this helps one person in my shoes other than me then I'm good. Free Will means that God loves us because real love is not forced. He speaks. Pray for me then, since God spoke to me about my future husband .. and ask Him for me why he told me those things (interrupting) my devotion time, as you say "intimate" time with him. Each time the thought about a man or relationship was NOT in my head, God himself would interrupt MY worship & praise TO HIM just to show or tell me something about the man he told me about lol .. I'm just saying this is my experience. I would be like, God I am not tryna think about a significant other right now, I'm tryna focus on you! Then, he spoke more lol 🙄(grateful !!!!!) I just pray that through my life others will see Him in it, & draw from my time I CHOSE to sacrifice on relationships, dedication to God only during the time, and draw near to him. We are being USED by God - the way you mentioned it made it sound like how humans use other people scheming to get things (I do understand the perspective), but we are used by Him. Someone asks me to reach and get something on a shelf for them, I am using my own abilities in order to help them, not that God NEEDS our help for anything and MY abilities are GIVEN by him to me, why would we not use what he's given us to further his Kingdom and ultimately bring him all GLORY through even the smallest things such as: the Lord told me not to date this person or the Lord told me he has someone for me etc. These days it's called partnership - guess it doesn't matter lol as long as I am walking in my purpose, doesn't matter what it is called. I think that people DRAG things and make situations like these more complicated than it needs to be. Simply, if God spoke, he spoke period. And it will happen ..... I think really the underlying question or concern people have is the HOW more than the WHY (both really) because if God speaks people stay stuck on the HOW. When things go wrong they're stuck on the WHY. NO OFFENSE if this is reaching but I cannot help to think about Sammi..... Is it safe to say that if you did not go through those situations you've gone through prior to marrying your current husband ... COULD it be that those past experiences were based on your free will as you say? And how God WORKS all things out for our good, he used it to create a beautiful marriage you currently have now, not to mention the ministry as a whole? I think perspective has a lot to do with it, but once we are walking in our purpose, God will seal the deal & people thrive. All that to say, I want nothing more than for people to listen to his voice .. it's beautiful. People want what they want though, that's where the free will part comes in - in all the decisions people make, he works ALL THINGS together, even those wrong decisions. Isn't that what restoration is about. Alright, I'm off because I could go on .. Can't wait to share my testimony to everyone who KNOWS God spoke to me years ago and when it happens .......... This girl will not stop smiling.Most importantly, I want them to see through my experience, God can do ANYTHING and loves for his will to be done on earth with our participation. I just wanna hear "Well Done .."
This just set me free after my divorce. I thought God said he was the one and he randomly left after 5 months and changed. We got married really quickly. But Idk if that was God anymore
But can we talk about how Spencer CAME THROUGH with the WORD in this! If you have ears to hear :D This is some good food for thought! Much appreciated! x
I think you guys are amazing with wisdom older than your age. so I hear the Lord speaking through you because y'all were willing to say yes to His messages through you.
“Marriage is about two people choosing each other!” Yes! That’s biblical love. Biblical love is about commitment and covenant, not “soulmates.” I’m actually theologically different from you, as I became more reformed in my walk, but I actually believe “love God and do as you please.” We have to be wise in our decisions and not fall for fantasy. Real, biblical love is that...it’s REAL, and it requires daily choosing and dying to self. 🙏✝️🕊
I'm not asking for too much from a man but I'm really craving marital intimacy & its huge reason I want to get married so quickly ... I just really want to be satisfied especially in that department if I'm being honest.
I disagree too. God has our entire life planned out and our life is not our own or about our own desires. It is about accomplishing Gods will for our lives. I believe God knows how partner and creates them for his purpose and kingdom only.
The bible says no good thing will He withhold from those who walk uprightly, It's because this important decision of choosing a spouse can either make or break you; this choice will affect every area of your life, your spiritual life, your children/ grandchildren, lineage. Remember God hates divorce so we have to leave one of the highest tier of decision to our limited knowledge and freedom of choice? and to the participation of even the devil sending his sons/daughters of divorce and calamity our way? ultimately affecting the church with broken and toxic marriages leading to the high rate of divorce these days(broken marriages=broken churches=broken society) the devil barely needs to do anymore work. Marriage ultimately represents the relationship of Christ and the church His bride. The family is the foundation of the community and will impact society according to how effective families and the church allow God to use them to carry out His mission of Salvation to this dying world. I''ll Go the Jesus choose my spouse route😍😍; the Jesus told me who to marry route He is still in control of whom ever gives Him control of their lives. He has full control of my life EVERY aspect especially for choosing my spouse. He is in control, if He says enough is enough He can burst the clouds right now and you two will have to explain what yall were saying in this video.🙄😏
God sent Jesus to die for our sins - he was tortured, humiliated, and cruxified. Some would consider this a "bad" thing happening and it certainly was terrible but God preordained a plan that this act would save the world from our sins. Despite the pain and suffering in the world, God surely is in control. Just because he is a good God doesnt mean he doesnt allow pain. God has already promised that one day there will be no more tears and suffering and we have to live with this future in our today. Right now He is allowing Satan to rule this world temporarily - but certainly it is God who is controlling - the fact that he produces so much good from pain shows he is in control. If God is not in control of this world, we are to be most pitied - how could humans have more authority than God? Look at how the earth spins, the sun keeps shining, the seasons keep going - that is God sustaining the laws of nature. We must look beyond ourselves and our world to understand these truths.
A man wants to marry me but sometimes he gets on my last nerves. No matter what I do or say to this guy trying to break up with him, he holds on tighter. Could this be a sign from God? This man makes communication exhausting sometimes but we always forgive eachother. I just don't want to carry regret into a marriage that I could have waited for someone that was more compatible with me. Someone close to me had a dream that this man and I were shopping together and having a good time. That really confused me because his mom was rude to me and I was ready to call off the wedding. I do not want to deal with bitter, jealous in -laws either.
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I respect this perspective, however, there have been cases where God has done that as you say, therefore He does ordain marriage in my belief. Yes we have free will, but only if it lines up with His Will will He bless ours. I don't believe God likes divorce, which is why when you marry the right person instead of who you think is the right person, the marriage lasts. People try on marriages like clothes these day's and God is not the author of confusion. I believe if you truly seek God's Will for your mate, He won't have you marry someone only for it to end in divorce. Free will is something we are given even though God already knows our choices or responses. We don't ALWAYS get it right, but it's how we learn. I don't think God ever leads anyone astray who truly seeks and listens to His wisdom & guiding, even for a spouse. I think through free will He definitely helps us choose and make the right choice. Like other thing's where we fail at or misread, regroup, dust ourselves off and try again, I don't think God intends this for marriage. What God joins/yokes let no man set asunder (Interpret as you will). You can date people in a Godly manner until you find the right one, but marriage should be final. As Christians we can agree to disagree and still love one another. I'm just the percentage who believe's God does ordain marriage. There's no verbatim wording in the Bible that says it; there's also no verbatim wording about abortion or undergoing gender surgery, but surrounding scriptures does support whether it's right or wrong. So many people say thing's like the Bible doesn't say a couple can't live together before marriage, but supporting scripture does say we should avoid and flee circumstances that could lead to sin. Either way, if your will lines up with His, He will bless & prosper it.
You are absolutely right, and I see you didn't get a like. let them believe what works for them.
I agree that there are times when God does tell us who to marry, for instance, He told Hosea who to marry because He was trying to speak to His people who had gone astray in a way that they would understand. The purpose of marriage is for it to be a symbol of Christ to the church, which is also why I believe God hates divorce because it symbolizes the separation of Christ from the church.(Ephesians 5:22-30) (To be clear: I am not advising anyone to marry a person similar to Hosea's wife). I give this example because it is natural for us as humans to want to be able to explain what seems to have no explanation. God's ways our not our ways; His thoughts are not our thoughts (Isaiah 55:8-9). Also, there are things He will choose to reveal to us and then there are things that we will not understand, that's part of faith.
I believe, when it comes to a Christ centered marriage, that both we need to seek God for direction, while also evaluating the person's relationship with Jesus/their convictions compared to our own. I do believe that if we marry someone with whom we are equally yoked, that God will bless that decision because of the individuals' heart posture. Our motives are important to God, not just our actions (Hebrews 4:12-13;Matthew 7:21-23) which I believe should give God's children peace.
However, I also believe if we are out of alignment with God's will, things will at least initially be more complicated than intended until both surrender to His authority. So, I don't think that God just blesses our free will to bless our free will. We do have consequences for disobedience; His mercy, long-suffering, and forgiveness is often times what makes us assume that our decisions are being blessed but in reality He is giving us time to heed His correction.
2 Peter 3:9-10 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
And I also agree with your comment on free will. Yes, we all have free will which is why there is so much evil in the world because people do choose to use their free will to serve Satan (some knowingly and many unknowingly). While God does rain on the just and unjust (Matthew 5:45); He also makes it clear that there will be consequences. (Galatians 6:7)
The Israelites could have possessed the promised land long before they actually did had they been faithful and immediately obedient to God's Word. Instead they allowed fear to paralyze them when they were to take the land of Canaan. When they finally got the courage to do so, God told them that they would no longer be successful at that time due to their initial distrust in Him. They used their free will to pursue the attack on the Canaanites after their initial disobedience but were defeated. (Numbers 13-14)
I think the freedom as a Christian is surrendering to God and following His written Word concerning all matters. When things come up that appear to not be directly applicable that's when we rest on knowing that He is a good Father and knows His children.(I do think God will give revelation to current issues through His Word, we just have to be still and patient). God will course correct those who want His will and HE even reaches out to those who don't necessarily want to be corrected because He loves us. When we make the wrong decisions (which we will from time to time), He will correct us, give us revelation and depending on the type of decision, give us the grace to navigate the repercussions of those decisions.
2 Peter 1:3-8
3 His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to[c] his own glory and excellence,[d] 4 by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire. 5 For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue,[e] and virtue with knowledge, 6 and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, 7 and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. 8 For if these qualities[f] are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Tisha Fay Amen! Here is an example of the Lord specifically choosing a spouse for someone:
‘And let it come to pass, that the damsel to whom I shall say, Let down thy pitcher, I pray thee, that I may drink; and she shall say, Drink, and I will give thy camels drink also: 🔥let the same be she that Thou hast appointed for Thy servant Isaac🔥; and thereby shall I know that Thou hast shewed kindness unto my master.’ ~ Genesis 24:14 (KJV)
Listen to 18:00 and after:) We share that perspective too because we believe God operates differently with different people. We picked the title and topic to challenge common thinking and belief systems in the christian church of the people who are just waiting for a God ordained moment when in fact that may not be how God is going to move with that person. Just challenging thinking:)
@@frisebelle Listen to 18:00 and after:) We share that perspective too because we believe God operates differently with different people. We picked the title and topic to challenge common thinking and belief systems in the christian church of the people who are just waiting for a God ordained moment when in fact that may not be how God is going to move with that person. Just challenging thinking:)
I have to disagree. Yes, God gave us free will; however, he knows what is best for us because he knows each and everyone of us through and through. If in my free will, I ask the Lord to intervene and help me pick the right one and change everything in me that would desire a particular person who is not God's best for me, I do think he will honor that request. If you ask Him, in your own free will, to block you from marrying the wrong person, He will. To say that God doesn't have an opinion on who you marry wouldn't make sense esp. if the purpose of a God-ordained marriage is not just to love one another, but to effectively carry out the purpose of God, that would mean to me that surely God knows and cares that you marry someone who will be MOST EFFECTIVE in helping you fulfill that specific purpose in the best way. Moreover, the bible does say to test the spirits/voices you hear, as the enemy can also speak to us posing as light. I think individuals who have heard that someone is the "one" for them and got it wrong, most likely heard a voice that was posing to be God and wasn't. That is why it says in 1 John 4 to test every voice/spirit you hear to make sure it is truly God:
"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. 4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error."
Their message is very ungodly, and even offensive to God. Ugh..
I agree with u 100 % because she heard the word from the enemy now she opposed everything from God... We saw many people God gave them their spouse through dreams and vision.. Surely this couple they don't know God as they think they know him.. For their future advice they mustn't come to this platform if they didn't not read their Bible ans seek wisdom to God to understand his way of doing things.
He doesn’t bless our free will!! He bless obedience!!
Elle D However, He won’t bless our free will if it’s contrary to His Word.
Amen 🙏🏾 beautifully said
He blesses us choosing him
Please say that again.
Obedience.
...isn't that what they meant though? . . . or did I simply assume it while listening and then assume that's what they meant . . .
I respect you opinions and I can see your line of reasoning. I definitely think we have free will and can choose our spouse, however I think God does have specific people picked for us! BUT Him having a person for us doesn't mean we aren't responsible for things like: being spiritually, emotionally healthy, being obedient, leaning into God's wisdom. We still have a responsibility to work our faith and hope muscles! Just because someone is meant to be my husband doesn't exclude me from working towards the health of the relationship and the health of myself! Some people use it as a cop-out to not do any work towards a relationship. I can't expect to be able to run a marathon if I don't train for it. Just because God says I'll break a huge record at the race doesn't exempt me from diligently training and choosing to train and eat and rest well.
Also, if you aren't hearing God in other spaces of your life, then it doesn't make sense you would hear super clearly about a spouse!
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This is literally the best explanation I have ever heard on this topic. All the pressure comes off when you know that when you're seeking God's heart, you literally can't fail. This was so encouraging to me and brought me so much peace! Thank you guys so much for sharing your hearts!
Failure can come. It's how you handle it.
God has a direct will & a permissive will. We can choose freely which one we want to be in. The one thing I agree with is that God will not take a mans free will away from him.
That's why I like to say God is in "charge" not control.
Thats a beautiful line!
I'm going to work to adopt that. Beautiful! Thanks so much, Sis!
-Azariah/SuburbaKnight
PS 20:1, 6-8; IS 43; IS 38:15-20; JOHN 14:11-21
He's both in charge and in control. We can trust him. He's not narcissistic.
There are things that are beyond the realm of our decision but if God he's in control we can go to sleep with both eyes closed, literally.
God is in control because he's the one with all the power, dominion, authority, destinies etc.
He's still in control because we can still rejoice in our trials and he doesn't let us get tempted beyond what we can bear.
Our freewill only determines how we react in these scenarios and that is strengthened by having the Holy Spirit.
I'm glad God is actually in control because the story of this earth is gonna pan out how he wrote it.
His control is overarching and all our little thoughts, feelings and reactions are proscribed within that.
I believe God can put two people together if he wishes to do so. An example is Abraham and Sarah; he wanted Abraham to be the father of the promise, and Sarah to be the mother (Not Hagar)
God can still use the process of election in Romans 9 to join two people together for whatever reason. He knew us before the foundation of the earth and maybe knows these people can achieve whatever he put in them effectively, if they are together. Marriage is a ministry after all.
I took away a lot of great things from this video that made me check my heart. Thank you!
I like your approach to this topic. Think it’s both. Think certain people with special callings need a particular kind of spouse to partner with. Then I think there are others who could pick 5 different people and you could still have a good marriage. We still hold responsibility with whomever you choose. Totally agree with your husband on this one. If God talks to you about a spouse, surely he should be able to talk to you about other things. Think getting married to anyone is an act of faith. There are no guarantees. Marriage is work for Christians and non .
You are right. I had 20 dreams this past year about me and the SAME man. I believe God has shown me who my husband is.
Beautiful message. Thank you.. However, just wanted to share my personal belief about whether God's in control.. I believe he actually is. And I believe he allows pain and suffering because without it, we could not know what things like joy, love, and peace are. You cannot know light without experiencing dark. To someone who has never seen day, night is not night. It is just the permanent natural state.
Omg i feel her on the “ I don’t want to get sick of him “. Introvert club lol🤗
I’m am so grateful that I watched this video. I am at a loss of words. Everything that you guys said just put peace in my heart. And makes me want to ask God the right questions. Thank you. Praise God.
So glad you enjoyed this. Let us know what other content would be helpful
It is important to remain a student in our lives... to realize God leads by peace, and to ensure we are never forcing anything. God’s guidance is real... and so is His true love, blessings, mercies, and compassion💛stay blessed beautiful 🕊brothers and sisters.💜
I understand some of your points but I really think some of the theology is off. Like Joseph, God told Him that He was going to rule over his brother. But terrible things happened to him before all of that. It is very important to know and ask God for confirmation and not base it off our feelings. He will give us confirmation about our spouse. This is why it is important to test the spirits and like you said have intimacy with him.
God chooses the spouse Genesis 2:18, Matthew 19:6, Mark 10:9
I appreciate your wisdom.
There is many reasons that God may speak to someone and tell them they are the one. I believe in my own experience it was to teach me self control, about hope, humility and being humble. I would not change anything about trusting God even if led to turbulent times!
Am just curious so did you get married to that man?
There is a big IF and a BUT.... hear me out..... I believe that the man you end up with, is the man that God chose....... only because I believe the greatest way to honor your creator is to do the work within yourself to be the person God designed you to be, free of all the chains (past trauma, triggers, pain etc etc)..... basically, you have to be whole within yourself and living in your purpose. At the very least, you must be awoken to the journey of healing.....in touch with your heart and soul.... doing right by them. When you reach that point in your journey, is the point at which you will attract your mate. You attract what you put out. So if your vibrating at your highest frequency, living your truth, solid within yourself and free of chains......you will attract what was meant for you. You wont settle for less than what you were designed for. In this space, I believe you choose what God has already laid out. So its free will....... you have to choose to honor yourself and God by digging deep and aiming high, to be the best version of yourself........ to find whats truly meant for you. To live with purpose. To reach in and fill the place within ourselves that we all long to reach. Everyone is out searching for something to fill their emptiness, we are looking in all the wrong places, driven by fear and ego, expecting others to fill this space and make us whole, or the next goal or the next goal, and we still come up empty. alot of us never realize that what we are seeking, is that which, we can only find if we go within ourselves...... it exists there. Dig for it. Do the work. Harness your authentic self. Be bold in your journey to heal and to find yourself...... when you take the journey into self discovery and healing....... you will find that what you were missing was you! You have to heal and find you...... to beable to take the "free will" God gave you and recieve that which is meant for you. Any "free will" you exert before that, isnt Gods work. So, i dont think its as black and white as one may think..... is it free will? Yes! Is it Gods choosing? YES! BUT Your "free will" looks alot different with chains ..... than it does when its blessed. What work do you need to do to align your free will with Gods design? Thats where the magic happens ! ❤ Dont settle for ego driven fear based free will...... fill yourself up with your purpose...... let the free will God meant for you take you over.
The story of Isaac and Rebecca shows a specific choosing of a spouse also. :)
Thank you that's what I was thinking of
Exactly! I said the same thing.
Deuteronomy 18:22 King James Version (KJV)
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Point blank, if it doesn't happen, God didn't say it will! You just thought He did.
God is omniscient and incapable of lying. He WILL NOT make a promise when He knows the other person will forever choose to turn away from it.
What if the person was told by revelation that it is His will but it may or may not happen- and He let me know the open doors to how it may not come to pass? Im here like...waiting.
AGREED! Alllll the way.
Wow so eye opening! This is one of the most insightful Christian videos I’ve come across and I am so happy I did! Thank you!
I believe there are times when God does tell people who to marry, for instance, He told Hosea who to marry because He was trying to speak to His people who had gone astray in a way that they would understand. The purpose of marriage is for it to be a symbol of Christ to the church, which is also why I believe God hates divorce because it symbolizes the separation of Christ from the church(Ephesians 5:22-30) (To be clear: I am not advising anyone to marry a person similar to Hosea's wife). I give this example because it is natural for us as humans to want to be able to explain what seems to have no explanation. God's ways our not our ways; His thoughts are not our thoughts (Isaiah 55:8-9). Also, there are things He will choose to reveal to us and then there are things that we will not understand, that's part of faith.
I do agree with Spencer in that if someone hears from God who their spouse is, they should have a history of hearing from God through their intimate relationship with Him for other situations outside of themselves and for themselves to not only include perceive blessings but also correction.
These revelations should increase their intimacy with God, NOT just on the topic of their spouse but in all matters. The Word of God says to test every spirit, we are also to do this for ourselves. Jesus had to correct the disciples when the people of Jerusalem did not accept Jesus or the disciples. The disciples who at this point had seen many miracles and God’s sovereignty asked Jesus if they should pray for fire to consume the city like Elijah did. Jesus rebuked them in saying “You do not know what spirit you are operating in.” because they were speaking AGAINST God’s will. This is why it’s important to test EVERY spirit to the Word of God. (Luke 9:55-56 KJV).
I believe, when it comes to a Christ centered marriage, that both need to seek God for direction, while also evaluating the person's relationship with Jesus/their convictions compared to our own. I do believe that if we marry someone with whom we are equally yoked, that God will bless that decision because of the individuals' heart posture. Our motives are important to God, not just our actions (Hebrews 4:12-13;Matthew 7:21-23) which I believe should give God's children peace.
However, I also believe if we are out of alignment with God's will, things will at least initially be more complicated than intended until both surrender to His authority. So, I don't think that God just blesses our free will to bless our free will. We do have consequences for disobedience; His mercy, long-suffering, and forgiveness is often times what makes us assume that our decisions are being blessed but in reality He is giving us time to heed His correction.
2 Peter 3:9-10 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Yes, we all have free will which is why there is so much evil in the world because people do choose to use their free will to serve Satan (some knowingly and many unknowingly). While God does rain on the just and unjust (Matthew 5:45); He also makes it clear that there will be consequences. (Galatians 6:7)
The Israelites could have possessed the promised land long before they actually did had they been faithful and immediately obedient to God's Word. Instead they allowed fear to paralyze them when they were to take the land of Canaan. When they finally got the courage to do so, God told them that they would no longer be successful at that time due to their initial distrust in Him. They used their free will to pursue the attack on the Canaanites after their initial disobedience but were defeated. (Numbers 13-14)
I think the freedom as a Christian is surrendering to God and following His written Word concerning all matters. When things come up that appear to not be directly applicable that's when we rest on knowing that He is a good Father and knows His children.(I do think God will give revelation to current issues through His Word, we just have to be still and patient). God will course correct those who want His will and HE even reaches out to those who don't necessarily want to be corrected because He loves us. When we make the wrong decisions (which we will from time to time), He will correct us, give us revelation and depending on the type of decision, give us the grace to navigate the repercussions of those decisions.
2 Peter 1:3-8
3 His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to[c] his own glory and excellence,[d] 4 by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire. 5 For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue,[e] and virtue with knowledge, 6 and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, 7 and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. 8 For if these qualities[f] are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Listen to 18:00 and after:) We share that perspective too because we believe God operates differently with different people. We picked the title and topic to challenge common thinking and belief systems in the christian church of the people who are just waiting for a God ordained moment when in fact that may not be how God is going to move with that person. Just challenging thinking:)
God also divorced Israel.... So, he doesn't hate divorce....
God arranges marriages but he doesn't send you into that battle field all by yourself. It is we who choose to tell him goodbye and to shut the door and leave him in the cold until the house gets too hot for us and we want some of his cool air.
Seeking a marriage partner is about being faithful to the Holy Spirit first and knowing that the marriage is between three persons not two. Each of the human halves form a good relationship with the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit brings them together better and better. Even when they're making love, the Holy Spirit is there and helps the woman conceive.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Love, power and a sound mind. He gives us the power to love with a sound mind and not emotional feelings and manipulation.
God chooses our spouse. He chose for Adam but because Adam didn't do his job of washing her with the water of the word, the enemy came in and made her a feminist.
God determines the rules of engagement and gives us his Spirit to enable us do his will and if marriage doesn't work, it doesn't mean God is to blame for giving us a spouse but we are to blame for choosing to exclude him from the marriage and not at least sticking to his written rules.
The World makes us feel like God is not interested in things like kissing and love making when he invented it. So we shut him out...but he wants to be involved in everything...
I want God to choose my spouse. And I know that for as long as I seek his Spirit first in myself and a spouse, all the features I desire will be added unto me.
God bless you all!
Helen Enang agreed with a lot of what you said but completely disagree with your idea that “Satan came in and made her a feminist.” Jesus is a feminist-no, not a worldly one, but he absolutely believes in equality. Feminism is not of the devil.
I don’t agree with everything but I appreciate this discussion and I do believe that dating/marriage can be overly spiritualized. Thanks for sharing this 🙏🏾😊
I loved how you closed this because I actually was like well there goes me thinking the man in my life right now is my husband. To be honest I had a dream shortly after we met at church that he was but I’m still till this day not sure if that was God or my own desire. We are very close friends. He actually was interested in one of my friends at the time but she turned him down. I never thought I would have feelings for him. I wasn’t initially attracted to him but after us being friends for about two months I totally said to myself I would say yes in a heartbeat if he asked me to marry him. I fell in love with his spirit. I always tell him I love the INSIDE of him. I don’t think he feels the same way about me but to be honest I trust God SO MUCH that if he never ask me to marry him I will continue on with life in PEACE because at the end of it all we are best friends and I want nothing but to see him happy with who he truly wants to be with. I also know by being in a friendship with him, I now know what to look for in my one day husband. It would just be totally awesome if it was him. Thank you for this video. It totally gave me another perspective. Free will. We choose. Keep it simple. Sometimes one is not ready. No scripture to back up that God ordains marriages. Honestly that’s even more scary because you mean to tell me I literally have to pick. Like I have to trust my own judgement on one of thee most important decisions I’ll ever make in my entire life. Yikes! Thank you guys!! 🙏🏾☺️💜🙏🏾
Don't get carried away by this troublesome doctrine.
The way to be sure that God sent this person is for you to look at your personal conviction and relationship with the Spirit of God.
Are you committed to pursuing the righteousness of God's kingdom?
Do you cherish the peace and joy of the Holy Spirit?
Then look at their lives, do they value their relationship with the Holy Spirit more than they value you? If he does then God sent him.
Marriage is between three persons not two. You're individually married to the Holy Spirit and it is he who then joins both of you together.
Remember the phrase, "what God therefore had joined together,let not man put asunder"...?
God will not give you someone to replace himself in your life. He can definitely allow you marry someone he didn't send but you have to realise that this is your choice and that you have made a commitment to give your 100% in every situation in that marriage no matter how the other person is acting. The dangerous part of such a union is that the other party may be very resistant to your faith and your relationship with God will suffer.
However, if you're married to someone who's commited to pleasing God, then you can be sure God will honor your union and be your advocate before God and before your spouse. Remember how God advocated for Mary before Joseph? He still does that...
Note that Joseph was a man who heard and obeyed God.
You can definitely meet someone and marry them based on how you feel but if you want God's choice then you need to have a sound mind to make that judgement and decision. You have to seperate your emotions from your judgement.
How?
1. Don't rely on signs and wonders of how you met them
2. Don't be fixated on the things they do or don't do as bases for your choosing them. People change.
3. Don't hinge your choice on their personal convictions and values, they may emanate from wrong foundations or bad experiences.
Instead, Look for:
1. How has the word of God and having the Holy Spirit transformed their lives, personally?
2. How much are they unplugged from pop culture? Totally free or partially connected?
3. How vehemently do the flee sexual sin? Are they in the full amour of God or at least trying to put in on daily but putting the flesh to death?
4. Are they obedient to Christ, submissive to authority and responsible for things in their possession?
5. What fruits of the Spirit particularly endears them to you?
6. Do they have the grooming to make sound decisions?
I hope this helps.
If you'd like to learn more about what makes a woman qualify as wife, please reply to this comment.
N Great well said! Couldn’t agree more
I agree with this 100%!! I’ve recently learned this through many years of painful lessons but I feel as if I finally understand that God’s “green light” on a specific person really actually means: “Go find out if this will work for you and bring you joy!”’ God trusts us to co-create with Him and I’m so grateful!! Now I trust that I will know for me and God loves for me to choose for myself!! Thank you for bringing this up! Such an important truth! What a good Father we have ❤️❤️❤️
This was a really interesting and encouraging video, I'm thankful that you guys addressed these topics because they have brought me a lot of stress and shame as well. I like that you differentiated between our free will and God's sovereign power over everything He's made, but I feel like the way you phrased it made God look less than omnipotent, which is not how He reveals Himself to us in His Word. I think it would be more accurate to say that God is omnipotent over all of His creation and He has the power to control us and our will without giving us the freedom to choose, the way some people view Him. However, I think Sammi's reference to Genesis where God gives humans free will and puts us in charge of the world is evidence that God, in His infinite power, chose not to exercise control over the human will and allows us to have control of that ourselves. This allows Him to have a deep relationship with us and work in us to accomplish His will instead of just using us as inanimate tools, also like what Sammi said. The flipside to that is that He, being the perfect, omnipotent Ruler and Creator of the world, holds us accountable for what we do with our free will. If we are selfish with our free will and use it to reject salvation and a relationship with God, we suffer the consequences. If we make a personal choice to accept salvation and surrender our will to God's guidance, then we receive the inherent rewards of that choice.
It’s so, so nice to hear what your experiences were like. We are all different, and it’s nice to know how you all were able to conclude God’s perfect will for you both. In awe of God’s beauty🌹🌹🌹
Beautiful Blessed Couple. What I notice is sitting patiently , listening, and being respectful of each other’s thoughts. No control here.
God’s Blessings to you both. Absolutely let God into your heart . I feel that being loyal, exclusively , being Honest and being faithful to each other exclusively. Cherish.
Yes GOD will show us who to marry & or who our spouse is.... GOD does ordain marriages, free will is only if it's HIS WILL for us & lined up with who HE has for us...we CANNOT pick & chose who we want & ask GOD to fix this person for us. That is NOT Scriptural & that's NOT what GOD does...people have a list of how they want their spouse to be, but if the "list" isn't lined up with GOD or HIS WILL for you, get rid of it...waiting on GOD for a spouse for those who are waiting for marriage, is the best thing we can do while being single. He will put everything in perspective in His Timing...
14:?? Pause! You just cleared something major up for me! I just wanna Hug HIS HEART!! Thank you for letting HIM SHINE thru you, & after spending the AM in tears....I'm no longer ?ing if ELOHIM/GOD LED me here. HE'S SPEAKING & REVEALING, through you both & just RUACH HAKO'DESH(HOLY SPIRIT) incredibly! So excited again! 👐☝💓🙌
-Azariah/SuburbaKnight
PS 20:1, 6-8; IS 43; IS 38:15-20; JOHN 14:11-21
Okay, so my biggest thing is that I’m just uncomfortable with the wording “God’s not in control.” I think you guys explain really well what you mean-but that specific wording is hard for me just because of its implications.
HOWEVER!! Other than me just being picky and having a hard time with particular verbiage, this video was PROFOUND. So much wisdom!! In my heart, I agree so much with all that you have said. Thank you for making this and sharing this! This is an area of so much pain for so many Christians, myself included, and I appreciate you guys being bold and sharing truth!
I was told by someone I trust once that “God is not in control, but He is in charge.”
I’m going through a heart healing round 1000😂 (Marriage prep!!!!) I will be binge watching all your vids this summer! Get ready! ❤ Removing the idol of marriage and placing Jesus on my heart’s thrown.
I totally agreed with the both of you. Idk how I ended up on this side of youtub3, but im fasting and one of my main points is about marriage and the man I'm currently with. Glad to hear these things. It truly helps. Definitely got a new subscriber. 🙏🏾
I do think Gods made one person for another and it’s apart of his perfect plan, it’s only in our free will that his sovereign will is done 😍
I'm sorry but his face at 5:23 😂 she chose you! don't worry she's just giving us a lesson
This was so good and so healthy and love the explanation of how God fellowships with man sooo good God bless your ministry
This was beautiful, so empowering, and grounded some of the thoughts and opinions that I have regarding finding a partner, marriage, free will, and God's role in our life. Here is a quick jot of my takeaways: marriage is about two people choosing each other, may our free will be in alignment with what God spoke, God is not in control of everything, He gave us free will and gave humans dominion over Earth, God blesses our free will (like what you speak about our heart's desires), He would like us to find a partnership that pulls us closer to God, the idea of viewing God as a loving parent who is supportive of our decisions when He sees that it could lead to something good long term, two people willing to lean in, choose love, and choose each other, to feel united in our belief systems, in the meantime and always: delight in the Lord and find where your needs are met.
I love you both and I hope God really adjusts some of your views...
Some of the things said in this video will unknowingly make some who're weak in faith go astray.
Also, stay away from the movies. You may think you're really strong and grounded but it's really eroding the strength of your convictions and it is showing.
May the Holy Spirit keep leading you into all truth!
I chose my ex-boyfriend, but felt that God had blessed it. I have been stepping away from that as I pray because we are taking a break right now. I am trying to allow enough space for free will to blossom in both of us.
You sound a little confused
God also leads people to eachother in the bible. God presented Eve to Adam. Comfirmed by a sign when a servant was sent to find the wife or when was was told about his prostitute wife.
But yes we do have to choose or pass
God has control over everything he is in control there's a purpose for everything the pain and suffering that happens in the world is for a purpose. We are in his hands
So many times we want God to tell us to marry a specific person, and we think that if God tells us to marry someone that there won't be hardships in the marriage and that everything will be perfect. We want God to tell us what to do so we don't have to be responsible for the consequences of us doing what we think He told us to do. This is unhealthy.
I've been through this three times now, where I thought God wanted me to marry someone but it turned out they didn't like me back or I never saw them again. The last time it happened, someone believed God told her he was the one for me but it caused so much confusion and anxiety and triggers and chaos for me that I finally realized that that was not God, because God is not the author of confusion. I didn't even really know the person and had only talked to him twice, and I didn't even feel ready to be in a relationship anyway.
Just because you hear a voice saying, "That's your future husband/wife" doesn't mean it's from God, even if it feels like lightning from heaven. I don't understand what that all is, I've been through it myself, but it's not necessarily God if nothing happens as a result of it, or if it causes you anxiety and hinders your living right now.
Also, I know many young people including myself by habit have the thought "That's your future spouse" for pretty much any attractive person of the opposite gender that we meet, and of course if you're hearing it for every person you meet, that's an intrusive thought, it's not God.
Every desire is from god, because everything is God. The good the bad and the indifferent. You were triggered not because the person meant to harm you , but because you had unresolved childhood trauma to heal. The person touched your wound. Self love is the most important love.
This is so great explanation, thank you so much ☺️
So happy you released this 💛 Can’t wait to share it.
I completely agree and also went through many words of prophecy (which I do believe in) that ended in disaster. One was a marriage that crushed me and left me hurt and embarrassed. God gives us free will... if a person doesn’t choose you then God can’t bless it
OH MY GOSH YOU GUYS!!!!!!! So I’ve thought I’ve been hearing this same thing from God, and from scripture. I thought I was crazy. Thanks for listening to him. I’m mind blow honestly. Gods so cool. I learned so much. Ok it’s 3 am round these parts it’s time to turn in. Love ya guys!
God is in control! Things happen for a reason, thats god teaching us and guiding us. it says man plans his way but god guides his steps!
Oh guys grateful for your vid. Keep moving forward. I think we should remember God does things anyway he wants to, simply because He knows us better than we know ourselves. Blessings to you!
So when we look at the story of Job - God is ultimately in control of everything, but yes He allows free will
I agree Sammi. God knows what will happen because he knows the beginning from the end he knows what you will choose but he doesn't MAKE you choose that. He will bless your choices when you do make them though.
Thankful for this. My auntie said she prayed for a husband and believes God gave her hers, however the other side of the coin is she also said if it wasn't that man, she would have another man. Hmmm. What this looks like is God giving us opportunities, but we choose. I don't know if you guys read comments on here.
My mother (RIP) on the other hand did not pray for a husband and she had my dad (and it ended ugly). :( Not trying to say praying always guarantees a decent marriage or marriage at all but just saying how two sisters experiences went. They also had a third sister who's husband had a stroke and she cared for him.
You mentioned (22:20 ) that there’s no where in scripture where it mentions that God creation someone just for the other but there is. “fear not, for she is appointed unto thee from the beginning” Tobit 6:17
This subject has always been so interesting to me and kinda hard to understand because the word does reveal in scripture God makes someone for you since the beginning of time but yet we have free will.
Thank you very much for sharing this video. God bless you both 🙏
I got so much out of this! Thank you sammi and Spencer!
Yes! Such wisdom spoken and with the Word of God! Preach! *now subscribing
Wow you two! I am so blessed and impressed and grateful for what you are sharing. Stop the madness! I have had Charismatic or as I sometimes say Charasmaniac experiences with relationships.
It can make a person question God and the goodness of God when it goes off the rails.
I love you.pointing out about Idols. I feel that is SO important. Anything even good can become an Idol over the Lord.
Sammi I also love your take on choosing well. So very good.
I also am an introvert and have been concerned about ever finding someone who understands that. We can't force it to happen . Thank you.
Arranged marriages have a lower divorce rate than marriages where people choose each other :)
Great video though and if we trust God and fix our eyes on Him, and full full force toward Him, we'll find that person who is taking that same journey
About 10 years ago I prayed for a wife. I prayed for 6 specific things. The first one was that I am very shy so I wanted the woman to approach and show interest first. I also prayed that I wanted to meet her in church and that I wanted to hear from her that she loved me. About 2 months later everything happened. I met an amazing woman in church and she was really nice to me. The more we became friends the more I found things I liked about her. She used to tell me that I was the best man she had met in her life. She had some friends in church that were always inviting her to go to bars and places like that for girls night. One day I noticed she was acting weird. She was going out with another guy without telling me. It broke my heart. I was depressed for many months, left that church and was very confused. I really thought she was the answer to my prayer. Everything I prayed for happened. Until today I am still trying to understand what happened. It has been 10 years and I am still thinking on her. There is always something that reminds me of her even if I try to forget. We used to go outside to watch the full moon so every time there is a full moon reminds me of her. I am still trying to understand if she was God's answer to me.
You didn’t love yourself and were seeking from another to make you whole. Write a list of qualities but this time, become the person you wish to meet.
@@bodnarova05 Your assessment is totally wrong. I just wrote a few lines and you make an assessment which requires much more knowledge of the situation. This is called "Job's friends syndrome" . When Christians don't know what is going on they just try to find any excuse, most of the time just blaming the person and make him/her guilt of something. Many people do their best but things just don't happen. For some people things come easier for other people will be harder doesn't matter how much you try. When God wants to help you He will even with your deficiencies. I've been in single's groups for many years and by coincidence the more attractive people always find another attractive in the group meanwhile many never have a chance.
@@airplane800 sorry if this upsets you but I’m a life coach and therapist . I mean no offence. All is possible to him who believes . Key word BELIEVES. Believe that you are amazing , smart, special, handsome. People reflect back what you believe about yourself. Work on inner child healing. The way you write about yourself comes from a ‘low ‘ place. Let the weak man say, I am strong! Quit putting yourself down. At the end you imply youre insecure about your looks. Stop looking for the one and become the one you love. I was just like you , in a victim mindset even though I am model like attractive, I couldn’t find the one because I DIDNT think I was enough or lovable.
VERY GOOD! I was shown also and im waiting. The confirmations get strong! Its ok because im all the Lords so me being overly anxious just means i have more dying to do. I WANT to be confident with my purpose then im sure he will swoop in and drop her in. But i can say the Journey there has meaning and its FUN! SO just relax if he spoke to you get know the lord first even more! MARRY HIM! then the blessings will blow on you knocking you over hah!
This is really good! Sometimes we over spiritualize stuff and we make Walking with God extremely difficult. It's bringing up a lot of pain. Yet, I hear truth from both of you. Choice ... I do believe that God sometimes works and tells you your spouse if it is for some Divine Purpose of doing his work out the field as missionaries or a big call (Finding a bride for Isaac), but sometimes God can be very practical. You've given me a lot of things to ponder but in a good way. You are both a special and lovely couple. Thank you!
The mindset that Sammi had two yrs ago was actually accurate to say. Maybe u thought you heard from God that a certain person was ur husband indeed when God didn't say that u probably wasn't sure. He is a God that cannot lie and does have a certain one for the other. We just have to be patient, fast, and pray. Some things only happen through fasting and that can go for hearing the voice of God regarding your spouse. Even though God gave man Dominion over the animals and we do have free will, however the control is in God's hand. If we choose to do our own will rather than God we have to pay for the consequences. Evilness happens to the world because Satan is the God of this world. With some people not having Christ spirit, this world is bound for destruction. It is also prophesied in the Bible that the world will come to an end. This is not our resting-place. After this life end there's a heaven and hell. The born-again and repentful will make it to heaven and the ones that choose to live for this world will be in hell 🙏💯🙏
This was incredibly eye opening in so many ways. Thank you!!
Thanks guys so much for your perspective. God bless you.
Paul spoke of celibacy and singlehood as a blessed state, more specifically, a gift. In 1 Corinthians, he wrote, ... But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another. To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am.” (1 Cor7:7, 8, ESV)
check out our full podcast episode on the topic here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alive-free-podcast/id1601770593
Wooo, this was on time. Thank you for the word.
God gave choice but ultimately he's in control because nothing can happen without his permission.
I think there's a misunderstanding here of what the phrase "God is control" mean. I agree we have a choice though! I think the seeming contradiction is a mystery or paradox, not actually conflicting.
I love you guys both and have listened to quite a few of your wonderful podcasts. I truly believe you both are spreading His light! There is however scripture that states God telling someone to take a particular wife. Hosea..
Thanks!! And we know- we've read all those scriptures...more addressing the pendulum swing of a lot of christians nowadays "only hearing God" about a spouse and not much else. Also, it still requires personal choice
That's good about the idol as a husband/wife.
I believe that your yoke has to be equal. If you are with someone who is not living a godly life and doesn't have a intimate relationship with God, they are out of the equation.
99.9% is a huge generalization. I’ve known many people where God told them who they would marry and it worked out. I agree that some people don’t know. I think God should be guiding your step every step of the way. He should definitely be confirming if you should be dating a person. Yes we have free will, but He does speak to people. And if He is speaking to people and they hear Him on jobs and where to live and healing heal others then why shouldn’t God give them a clear answer about who they’re going to marry?
listen again to the beginning. We agree. But Paul says to marry if you are burning with passion. Sounds a little more free.
So much great information! Thank you so much 😊
Solid!! Thanks for sharing bro!! Love you guys
I'm probably making this decision on whether or not to stay with this person more difficult than it needs to be. He feels very strongly that I'm his wife but I haven't gotten that same definite answer. I had peace about the relationship until two of my Christian girlfriends both told me that they do not believe this man is my husband. I've had so much anxiety since then I want to obey God and I get the feeling He wants me to leave
At 14:05 Spencer mentions "God never says He uses someone", but I actually see in scripture that God used people for His purpose. So I don't understand why he said that God doesn't use people.
The bad things that happen are because we would not know good and come to know God and have a relationship with him if we did not have the contrast of sin on this planet. A sinless world would make us equivalent to God which we are not. It is for our own learning and growth.
lol Thank you. I wish you'd keep my comments. Inquiring minds would like to know what truths you have to present since you are so certain about what you mentioned in the video. This seems to happen often I see ..
So AGAIN: I said I wasn't going to comment but .. this is too deep lol if this helps one person in my shoes other than me then I'm good.
Free Will means that God loves us because real love is not forced. He speaks. Pray for me then, since God spoke to me about my future husband .. and ask Him for me why he told me those things (interrupting) my devotion time, as you say "intimate" time with him. Each time the thought about a man or relationship was NOT in my head, God himself would interrupt MY worship & praise TO HIM just to show or tell me something about the man he told me about lol .. I'm just saying this is my experience. I would be like, God I am not tryna think about a significant other right now, I'm tryna focus on you! Then, he spoke more lol 🙄(grateful !!!!!)
I just pray that through my life others will see Him in it, & draw from my time I CHOSE to sacrifice on relationships, dedication to God only during the time, and draw near to him. We are being USED by God - the way you mentioned it made it sound like how humans use other people scheming to get things (I do understand the perspective), but we are used by Him. Someone asks me to reach and get something on a shelf for them, I am using my own abilities in order to help them, not that God NEEDS our help for anything and MY abilities are GIVEN by him to me, why would we not use what he's given us to further his Kingdom and ultimately bring him all GLORY through even the smallest things such as: the Lord told me not to date this person or the Lord told me he has someone for me etc. These days it's called partnership - guess it doesn't matter lol as long as I am walking in my purpose, doesn't matter what it is called. I think that people DRAG things and make situations like these more complicated than it needs to be. Simply, if God spoke, he spoke period. And it will happen ..... I think really the underlying question or concern people have is the HOW more than the WHY (both really) because if God speaks people stay stuck on the HOW. When things go wrong they're stuck on the WHY.
NO OFFENSE if this is reaching but I cannot help to think about Sammi..... Is it safe to say that if you did not go through those situations you've gone through prior to marrying your current husband ... COULD it be that those past experiences were based on your free will as you say? And how God WORKS all things out for our good, he used it to create a beautiful marriage you currently have now, not to mention the ministry as a whole? I think perspective has a lot to do with it, but once we are walking in our purpose, God will seal the deal & people thrive.
All that to say, I want nothing more than for people to listen to his voice .. it's beautiful. People want what they want though, that's where the free will part comes in - in all the decisions people make, he works ALL THINGS together, even those wrong decisions. Isn't that what restoration is about. Alright, I'm off because I could go on .. Can't wait to share my testimony to everyone who KNOWS God spoke to me years ago and when it happens .......... This girl will not stop smiling.Most importantly, I want them to see through my experience, God can do ANYTHING and loves for his will to be done on earth with our participation. I just wanna hear "Well Done .."
This just set me free after my divorce. I thought God said he was the one and he randomly left after 5 months and changed. We got married really quickly. But Idk if that was God anymore
He created her from him" 😩😭😭💗
But can we talk about how Spencer CAME THROUGH with the WORD in this! If you have ears to hear :D This is some good food for thought! Much appreciated! x
Thank you and God bless you both
I needed to hear this thank you!
This was very helpful to me, thank you!
I think you guys are amazing with wisdom older than your age. so I hear the Lord speaking through you because y'all were willing to say yes to His messages through you.
I love this, This is amazing
Your husband is correct and yes God told me don't say anything until you see it's fruit grow
“Marriage is about two people choosing each other!” Yes! That’s biblical love. Biblical love is about commitment and covenant, not “soulmates.” I’m actually theologically different from you, as I became more reformed in my walk, but I actually believe “love God and do as you please.” We have to be wise in our decisions and not fall for fantasy. Real, biblical love is that...it’s REAL, and it requires daily choosing and dying to self. 🙏✝️🕊
Second time your video came on my feed. Well imma watch this❤️
That goes against the Bible god chose Eve for Adam.
I'm not asking for too much from a man but I'm really craving marital intimacy & its huge reason I want to get married so quickly ... I just really want to be satisfied especially in that department if I'm being honest.
If God doesn’t force us to choose salvation, how could he choose our spouse. Isn’t salvation more important than marriage
You guys are FIRE. Miss you Spencer. Love who you've become x
I disagree too. God has our entire life planned out and our life is not our own or about our own desires. It is about accomplishing Gods will for our lives. I believe God knows how partner and creates them for his purpose and kingdom only.
Thank you, this was a very interesting video. I love the idea of being good with you and God, then getting added unto.
The bible says no good thing will He withhold from those who walk uprightly, It's because this important decision of choosing a spouse can either make or break you; this choice will affect every area of your life, your spiritual life, your children/ grandchildren, lineage. Remember God hates divorce so we have to leave one of the highest tier of decision to our limited knowledge and freedom of choice? and to the participation of even the devil sending his sons/daughters of divorce and calamity our way? ultimately affecting the church with broken and toxic marriages leading to the high rate of divorce these days(broken marriages=broken churches=broken society) the devil barely needs to do anymore work. Marriage ultimately represents the relationship of Christ and the church His bride. The family is the foundation of the community and will impact society according to how effective families and the church allow God to use them to carry out His mission of Salvation to this dying world. I''ll Go the Jesus choose my spouse route😍😍; the Jesus told me who to marry route He is still in control of whom ever gives Him control of their lives. He has full control of my life EVERY aspect especially for choosing my spouse. He is in control, if He says enough is enough He can burst the clouds right now and you two will have to explain what yall were saying in this video.🙄😏
what if your rejecting him cause your not wanting it to be him , but you feel he is the one?
Ooo deep info . . . I will definitely relisten to this and take notes when I do
God sent Jesus to die for our sins - he was tortured, humiliated, and cruxified. Some would consider this a "bad" thing happening and it certainly was terrible but God preordained a plan that this act would save the world from our sins. Despite the pain and suffering in the world, God surely is in control. Just because he is a good God doesnt mean he doesnt allow pain. God has already promised that one day there will be no more tears and suffering and we have to live with this future in our today. Right now He is allowing Satan to rule this world temporarily - but certainly it is God who is controlling - the fact that he produces so much good from pain shows he is in control. If God is not in control of this world, we are to be most pitied - how could humans have more authority than God? Look at how the earth spins, the sun keeps shining, the seasons keep going - that is God sustaining the laws of nature. We must look beyond ourselves and our world to understand these truths.
A man wants to marry me but sometimes he gets on my last nerves. No matter what I do or say to this guy trying to break up with him, he holds on tighter. Could this be a sign from God? This man makes communication exhausting sometimes but we always forgive eachother. I just don't want to carry regret into a marriage that I could have waited for someone that was more compatible with me. Someone close to me had a dream that this man and I were shopping together and having a good time. That really confused me because his mom was rude to me and I was ready to call off the wedding. I do not want to deal with bitter, jealous in -laws either.
That sounds like him controlling you not love
Please pray for me Katarina, thanks, God bless you ...Who is my kingdom husband ?
Wow, the way he stares at her!! ❤️