Bach - Ascension Oratorio, BWV 11 - Gardiner
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Johann Sebastian Bach
Ascension Oratorio, BWV 11
(Cantata, Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen, BWV 11)
Part I
1 Chorus. Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen
2 Evangelista. Der Herr Jesus hub seine Hände auf
3 Recitativo. Ach, Jesu, ist dein Abschied
4 Aria. Ach, bleibe doch, mein liebstes Leben
5 Evangelista. Und ward aufgehoben zusehends
6 Chorale. Nun lieget alles unter dir
Part II
7 Evangelista. Und da sie ihm nachsahen
8 Recitativo. Ach ja! so komme bald zurück
9 Evangelista. Sie aber beteten ihn an
10 Aria. Jesu, deine Gnadenblicke
11 Chorale. Wenn soll es doch geschehen
Hannah Morrison, soprano
Meg Bragle, mezzo-soprano
Nicholas Mulroy, tenor
Peter Harvey, bass
Monteverdi Choir
English Baroque Soloists
John Eliot Gardiner, conductor
Live recording. London, Proms 2013 - เพลง
Exquisite! May Jesus be magnified upon the Earth!
The final chorale, in which the chorus sings a fairly somber hymn (in B minor) while the orchestra plays a rollicking counterpoint (mostly in D major) -- thereby expressing the ultimate triumph of joy over doubt -- is a masterpiece of Bach's intricate religious psychology.
Hi Bruce. As a full time Pedantic Bore please forgive the following.
A.It’s a chorus rather than a chorale.
B.The cantus firmus is in D major.
C.It’s a Masterpiece of Bach’s transcendental musical creativity .
As a poor non-theistic wretch I’m in two minds about his “intricate religous psychology “ but I take a great interest in his relationship to God and Martin Luther.
I was privileged to be at this performance as well as the recording at St Giles Cripplegate.
All the best
Friederich Wurst
@@DavidHartley88 hi freddie, it is perfectly normal and common to refer to a chorale setting as a chorale. Secondly, the cantus is in fact naturally in b minor. Look at other bach settings of von gott will ich nicht lassen. At the end of bwv 73 for example
Also Freddie, this is some of the most explicit theological signifying in Bach. It is clearly religious thinking
@@timothyser9967 Greetings,Timothy…my fellow pedant!
I was at the Albert Hall the night that was filmed.And also sat on the front row (next to John Milton’s grave) when the same performers recorded the final gig of the Pilgrimage.
Since the liner notes on that CD state Chorale I shall cede any claim to correct definition. The Blessed JEG,Bruce and your good self are correct…chorale it is.
However…are you truly hearing that Cantus Firmus in B minor whilst everyone else is roaring about in D major? That’s a little too Charles Ives for me !
It may be the same melody as BWV 73 but it’s found a new key for this work.
You’ll be telling me the C Minor prelude from book one is actually in E flat major !!!
Your TH-cam channel looks very interesting.
All the best
Frederique Saucisson.
@@timothyser9967 I’m definitely in agreement with Bruce and yourself.
It’s Bach…it’s as profoundly Religious as humanly possible.
The glory of Bach was to find the truly human emotions at the heart of the Christian experience. Beyond dogma, he realizes the deep love that was taught and reciprocated between Jesus and his disciples. To that extent, Bach, while a true believer, reached deeper into the mystery than any church structures could attempt. The mystery of how love comes first and last and transcends the boundaries of death. The sadness and longing for lost loved ones is so deeply felt in "Ach, bleibe doch" that it can be difficult to sing without choking up.
How do you know any of this exactly?
I'm expressing my own experience of Bach's works. How do we know anything? Through our senses, yes? Maybe you have a different experience? If so, tell us. Your question implies that you enjoy challenging other's ideas. Why not enjoy the music and share your own feelings about it. @@awreckingball
What a versatile musician Bach is ！
I feel like I am in the Heaven
The art of leading an orchestra and choir... By Sir John Eliot Gardiner
By far the worst Bach interpreter on this earth!
@@annamcancarini6953 indeed, nothing to add
@@annamcancarini6953 Try ordering a new pair of ears from Amazon -- yours are obviously defective. I can understand disagreeing with this or that aspect of this interpretation -- but "the worst Bach interpreter on earth" when there are thousands of worse conductors than him? Hogwash! Gardiner has made a lifelong study of Bach and his music.
Een van mijn favoriete dirigenten, Sir John Eliot Gardiner, een grote Bach-kenner, en een zeer aimabel persoon ♥️
How glorious! I am currently rehearsing this for an Easter concert. To sing such beautiful music to the self proclaimed, true King of Creation is a joy!
The melody for the aria "Ach, bleibe doch, mein liebstes Leben" is also used for the Agnus Dei in Bach's B Minor Mass. It's a very lovely theme.
It is pure joy to watch Gardiner dancing through his conducting of "Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen" (see especially 2:20-2:23) while hearing Bach's complex, gorgeous music.
Satz 2 4:37
Satz 3 5:09
Satz 4 6:06
Satz 5 13:55
Satz 6 14:29
Satz 7 16:19 (Satz 7-9 oben)
Satz 8 18:34 (Satz 10)
Satz 9 25:46 (Satz 11)
The power comes from the glorious theme in Christ Jesus which it declares. Music plus The Glorious Word that is in Christ Jesus is the Divinely empowered combination.
So beautiful... I'm in tears....
I began tearing up at the first chorus in anticipation of the beautiful work of art I was about to experience.
My eyes watered in the final chorus. It's like a taste of heaven.
The representation of All that is on Planet Heart through a geometrically perfect music composition
Merci.
Se o Barroco de Bach não foi o auge da música como arte nada mais é.
06:05 wird von Bach als "Agnus Dei" für die H-moll-Messe überarbeitet.
El coro Monteverdi,no defráuda jamás..El coro de los coros por excelencia.
Meravigliosa esecuzione, bravi gli ottoni ed i solisti. Bravissimo anche il mio grande Bach!
J'ai déjà réagi en disant tout le bien que je pensais de cette version qui me remplit de joie. J'aimerais ajouter que je trouve la réalisation de cette retransmission absolument magnifique, avec des coupes sur les bons instruments ou le choeur à le demi-seconde près! Pour moi c'est très important, peut-être parce que j'ai travaillé à la télévision pendant quelques années, mais ça ajoute beaucoup au plaisir!
Bach é insuperável, quando se trata de Canto Coral, de junção de vozes! É aí que se manifesta a magnífica beleza da Música Polífônica/Contrapontística de Bach, com toda a sua perfeição! Não consigo enxergar nenhum outro Grande Mestre com mais genialidade do que o Grande Mestre da Turíngia.
Bach genio assoluto! Gardiner e coro sicuramente all'altezza
Magnificent!
Wonderful! Thank you.
Ederra benetan. Eskerrik asko britain, thanks britain for all the talent you treasure.
My absolute favorite no. 11. Just beautiful
Love it.
Gorgeous. And I now know what Bach based his Mass in B minor's Agnus Dei upon...
Beautiful performance. I love this joyful oratorio of Bach's.
I do too. The creative genius that was Bach!
Yes, wonderful but
My favorite Is His Gloria, Also joyfull with the Dutch orchestra, choir, singers. Worth seeing in YT.
These voices!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobet_Gott_in_seinen_Reichen,_BWV_11#Froher_Tag.2C_verlangte_Stunden.2C_BWV_Anh18
1-0:00 2-4:40 3-5:11 4-6:07 5-13:55 6-14:30 7-16:20 8-17:13 9-17:44 10-18:35 11-25:45
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@David Chang, thank you so very much !!!
The best performance I have heard!
Bach makes other composers sound like they are shaking a rattle in a sandbox.
...I'll settle for Beethoven Mozart and Handel and their rattles then.
A new favorite for me ! Thank you !
Os BRITÃNICOS, acertadamente, executam a magnifica e exuberante Música de Bach, utilizando os instrumentos mais modernos que existem, ignorando, por completo, os tais "INSTRUMENTOS DE ÉPOCA", que Bach usava, porque não havia outros melhores. O Pai da Música, se vivo fosse, aprovaria a acertada escolha dos BRITANICOS, pois gostaria que sua Musica ecoasse por todos os lugares. Parabéns à escolha acertada dos Britânicos!
Not wishing to be too critical, but I think the tempo is just right.
Bach will rest easy in his grave tonight.
toujours sublime, classieux, précis et sans bavure, de l'art et de l'inspiration, des solistes tous excellents et inspirés... MERCI !
Moi j'aime ce rythme, cette joie dégagée par Gardiner, les musiciens et les choristes. Si quelque chose pouvait me faire croire en Dieu, ça ressemblerait à ça...
Magnífica la composición de la obra.Estupenda la interpretación.El coro,la orquesta y los solistas del coro ya tienen un gran prestigio en este arte y no nos defraudan.
Unbeschreiblich herrlich!!
Just fab.
Meravigliosa sinfonia
Excelente interpretación como todas las que realiza Gardiner. Encomiable labor de educar y elevar el nivel cultural mediante el cultivo de los autores clásicos como el genial Bach.
Ottimo, bravi, bello quasi come i Tolzer Knabenchor.
ESPLENDIDA OBRA.
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Muchas gracias classical va
sublime
ESPLENDIDO!!!!
Herzlichen Dank für die große Freude.
Cada vez más me reafirmo sinceramente en que la genialidad de Bach está mas allá de las posibilidades humanas.
good afternoon please
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Dare I say I think this is not bad? Admittedly it is fast, but it does sparkle a bit as a result.
Sublime!!!!
6:12 Belíssimo!
Meravigliosi
BELLO !!!
Bella sinfonia
Royal banquet time!
Brillante und wunderschöne Aufführung dieses perfekt komponierten Meisterwerks mit gut harmonisierten und perfekt synchronisierten Tönen aller Instrumente sowie herrlichen Stimmen vierer genialen Solisten und gut vereinigten Stimmen des ausgezeichneten Chors. Der unvergleichliche Dirigent leitet das ausgezeichnete Kammerorchester im gut phrasierten Tempo und mit möglichst effektiver Dynamik. Das ist Bach im 21. Jahrhundert!
I think that Beethoven said "Nicht Bach sondern Meer ...."
Amen
Solamente por la articulación, ya hacen todo un gran cambio de la gran obra de BACH....
14.30.
Is there something more powerful than music in this world?
there is more powerful, but there is no more sublime
@@OneMoreCubebyMrSvart Nor is there anything that brings people together instead of tearing us apart as music as the music of Bach and other great composers.
@@Renee2004lr fully agree! Thank you, Lisa.
@@karennoble1168 Don't forget that he "stole" from himself. There are choral and vocal works that show up in in many of his large works that came from several if not many cantatas.
J'aime écouter Bach dans le silence de ma chambre.
I realize now ach,bliebe doch which is famous so I have heard this cantata before .Why that leaping melody for this text . I must get some books on Bach . Idon't thinkI've ever seen a bwv number with 2 digits . Imust find what is the earliest work of his we have .The music for leaving his brother in Bflat is really the earliest thing I know. ooh what fun I will have .Buxtehude is so very different fromeven lighter , hausmusic Bach .I wonder why ? Biber too is a completely diffrent world as is Walther !
Classe mondiale ! je vous envie dans ces moments là... d'être anglais ! tout témoigne de la qualité de votre société !
Maravilloso con subtitulos en inglés
ありがとう♪
感謝♪
Japanese
Bach écrivit cette composition à l'occasion de la fête de l'Ascension et l'aurait dirigée le 17 mai 1735 . Pour cette destination liturgique, trois autres cantates ont franchi le seuil de la postérité : les BWV 37, 43 et 128. La genèse de cette œuvre est toujours sujette à interrogations. Il la désigna lui-même (Oratorio pour la fête de l'Ascension).
The trouble to be worried of Bach was nurture of many children not splendid and difficult composition like this
I have a question about the violin bows. Are they modern or baroque era? What's the difference in actual sound?
25:50 another climax of world music by JSB.
I wonder why Gardener has the timpanist muffle his drums with mutes (almost always), that would not have been the practice in the Baroque era!
They sound awful muffled.
25:45 Erfreut euch ihr Herzen?
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Well, I'm certain none of us were there to know what Bach's tempo actually was, and Maelzel hadn't imprisoned tempi with his metronome. I would imagine, however, that a tempo would vary between St. Thomas Church in Leipzig and a concert hall.
Великая работа Баха и Великой интерпретации сэра Гардинера и Монтеверди хор
А они поют по немецки , и субтитры на английском. Конечно великолепное исполнение.
Monteverdi Choir
English Baroque Soloists
John Eliot Gardiner, conductor:
sont-ce là vraiment des amateurs, avec un chef "malade mental", comme le prétendent certains d'entre vous? Un choeur incontesté, un orchestre magnifique, un chef inspiré... Faut-il vraiment toujours vouloir tout critiquer pour paraître connaisseur ou intelligent? N'est-ce pas le droit premier d'un chef d'orchestre que d'avoir sa propre vision d'une oeuvre, même si elle s'éloigne de toutes les autres? Et puis, il suffit de regarder la joie, l'enthousiasme que dégagent l'orchestre et le choeur pour être sous le charme, je trouve...
Merci d'écrire ce que certains comme moi - et j'espère nombreux - aiment ce que présente Sir John Eliot et notamment ici. C'est en fait réellement une interprétation, une oeuvre collective sans le glamour des vedettes !
25:49 Finale
Johann Sebastian Bach is the greatest musical genius to ever walk the earth. The Eternal God of the Universe was in Leipzig c. 1723-1750 communicating through a German cantor.
Absurd hyperbole. Would the Almighty choose JSB as a conduit ,over say Vivaldi, Mozart, Handel, Tchaikovsky , Verdi or Schubert? This oratorio demonstrates unequalled genius in harmonic complexity, but in equal measure stultifyingly dull recitative, chorale and orchestral interludes. As for vocal solo work, Bach's hallmark lack of melodic flair is obvious.
@@shadbolt4687 Stultifying hyperbole.
@@shadbolt4687 There's no "lack of melodic flair" in Bach. That might be your opinion alone which, I am sorry to say, is of no consequence to the rest of the world.
@@shadbolt4687 It is sad that you can't appreciate this music. But you seem to take pride in it, which makes you sound like a pedantic idiot.
The opening & closing numbers are the only original parts and the only ones worth listening to IMO
Rustam Yavaev sing 'Saget, saget...': th-cam.com/video/eE3-rBiZ8Dc/w-d-xo.html
Nicht Bach sondern Mehr sollte er heissen. Ein Zitat von Beethoven.
Du meinst wohl "Meer"!
I enjoyed it but I only have one issue with performance. The instrumentation especially the drum and horn sections are too overwhelming when they should serve to complement the chorus. Otherwise an excellent performance.
I don't know other people but for me this a proof of the existence of God
For me this is a proof of the existence of Bach. And it helps me find meaning to my own existence. As for God... well, is Mozart's 40th symphony proof of the existence of Jupiter?
Soloists barely parish grade.
Please remove those awful google translated subtitles into English. I would much rather use my imagination
@Violinist 1 so do I. It added so much meaning to this magnificent piece.
The text of the quire is in german, the subtitles in English. Never mind
dull at times yet much less so than the good book, eh? 100% sure- less gory...
Much too fast. Gardiner is mentally sick. The chorale "Nun lieget alles" is totally wrong.
@Alain Burgieres: YES! This is a telediagnosis on the basis of 40 years listening to his recordings.
Then I must be mentally sick because I enjoy his recordings, and especially those of the Bach Pilgrimage... And what kind of recordings do you deem sane? And by the way, I admire your dedication.... listening to something you find totally wrong and mentally sick for 40 is courageous... tollkün maybe... don't you fear for your sanity? Vielleicht ist Gardiners Verrücktheit ansteckend? Seine Begeisterung ist sowieso ansteckend...
I was forced by my job to listen to his sick performances. I did't do it by choice. If you enjoy it, you are mentally sick, too.
I even own his complete cantata recordings and sometimes I lsten to single movements. Not all is bad. But I'm so bold to say, that there is not one cantata recording, which is completely good. When I was younger, I owned his christmas oratorio and his recording of the Bach motetts. His choires are usually very good trained, his soloists are from time to time very good, specially my favorite soprano singer XXth century, Nancy argenta. But eben Mrs. Argenta recorded her best cantatas NOT with Gardiner, but with Monica Huggett and Ensemble Sonnerie. Let me say this: You need very well trained choires and soloists to sing these rushed tempi. In case of the Trauerode I was interested in the voice of the soprano singer, which I did not hear before. I don't know the name.
Martin Möller ok
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