I got the Benelli for my first bike, got it with 1 mile and it currently has 7,190 miles on it. Only things I have done is change the tires, valve adjustment and frequent oil changes. It great for wheelies and I have had no problems with this bike, it's great.
One miss here is the Grom has a single spine frame vs the Benelli trellis frame being much stronger and rigid especially on side loading. Add 41mm vs 31mm forks and you a much stronger platform. You’re have to spend $850 plus labor to get the Grom a 4 valve head, and who doesn’t like the analog tach over a LCD. Benelli seams like a much better value for money and I own two other Honda motorcycles.
Thanks for the video. I've been riding for 50 years. I had a sportbike accident in 2019 where I was very badly injured. I'm over the 160 MPH stuff now and just want to have some fun. The Benelli is My choice. Thanks for the video!
The Binelli is a better bike and easier to mod plenty of parts available do not need an entire exhaust the Binelli handles better and has a better suspension I traded in my grom for it and I’m a lot happier. Paid 2600.00 for a used Binelli changed the intake, got the cat delete pipe reflash Ed the ecu. Won’t be trading it in for anything
I would suggest the reason you can't start it with the kickstand down in neutral, is the same reason the N light is on in 5th gear. Problem with the gear sensor. Mine starts and runs fine in neutral, stand down.
I think the price on the TNT is about $400 less than the Grom new MSRP.. Id go Grom, also with the much larger aftermarket and dealer support.. Also can get ABS on the Grom now and it is a 5spd also. But the TNT especially in the bright green color looks awesome.. At one point at the beginning you hit the rev limiter on the highway in top gear. I wonder if it would benefit from a slight sprocket change.
Woah! didn't know there was a lot of tech in this one. Always thought it was just a Grom copy but with 135cc's. Argh! I always loved the Upside down-styled forks. Even a buddy of mine put on the Kawasaki 125 forks to his Suzuki Belang.
I owned one last year. Was a great bike. Speedometer is always off by 4 mph, but you can easily program it to proper speeds 55-60 top speed. Much much better looking than grom and always passed groms. feel free to ask any questions
We built a Green 135 and it's still for sale. We went all out and put on every go fast part we could find when we built it. It's got a Yoshi pipe, Big Bore kit, racing cam, short ram air intake, sex machine racing clutches, engine management system, and high flow injector. This little thing rips!
maybe the neutral light on in fifth is to remind you are on fifth and can count down the gears easily, rode for 43 years never had a counter before, even my last bile a 2012 Yamaha 250 did not have one
My friend and I went to a motorcycle shop today to check out some gear and were set on Honda Groms, but so hard to find NEW out here, so we ended up sitting on the Benelux they had their and almost are completely convinced just haven’t sat on the Honda Grom to make a full and final decision. Great reviews on both bikes, my friend and I are really doing a lot of research on both and this definitely helps out.
How much of a weight difference is there between you and the other rider? On those little engines it doesn't take much to make a big difference in performance.
I have a Spade and would like to see that comparison. I'm not sure these guys are in the States or parts of Asia and the Spade is only available in those markets unless things have changed. In Asia it's called the Air. I love my Spade other then delays on getting OEM parts at the moment and not much aftermarket like the Grom. I've not ridden any of the others, so couldn't give you a comparison opinion.
Im 65 my 4 speed Grom.has its grins and disapointments. Ergonomics of seat,and controls need improvement. The stay on front indicators are confusing, liking the handling...brake pedal tiny and to inboard..mirrors too short..hate how theyve put the key down a hole..horn button smothers the indicator switch.
Nice comparison! I have both and agree with your thoughts, grom feels tighter overall but benelli is more comfortable and less harsh (I also don't have the bad vibrations people mention) at speed. Still though, if I had to keep one I would probably go with the grom, had it longer and aftermarket is much more prominent.
Awesome to hear from someone that has both. It’s hard to make a solid comparison after only a few hours of riding but your comment makes me feel like it did the bikes justice. I feel the same way if I was forced to choose between both. Honda for me please!
@@harrisdoesthings my 2023 grom has an indicator light through all five gears, and has a clock, and tells you your fuel milage, and tip meter 1 and 2. The motors for the 2022, and 2023 have 10-1 compression, 5 speed, but only 9 hp, but it hauls my 255lb ass around ok. I am looking for a more comfy seat though, or a gel seat of some sort, im 70yrs old and after about 50mi or so my back and tail bone start hurting, but i havent tried adjusting the shock yet, that may help.
I purchased a 2022 grom (MY21) It definitely can't get close to freeway speed and anything over 80kmh is questionable if not flat ground. Problem is new benelli is 125 now
Hi I know it’s a bit of an ask but I’m in the uk and would love to ride a motorbike but my inside leg is only around 66cm so I can’t find a bike where I can reach the ground safely with both feet,I sat on a monkey and still couldn’t reach,the wide seat doesn’t help.Can a grom be lowered? Or what bike might you suggest.I haven’t passed my first bike test cbt in England because I can’t fit on any of their bikes,I will only be able to ride up to a 125cc x
I want a mini moto that I can take on the highway for short stretches. I commute from a suburb to the city and theres a stretch of 70mph highway i’d like it to be able to handle. Guess i’ll have to go with a full size bike.
That's pretty funny that you can't start yours with the kickstand down...mine, on the other hand, doesn't care if the kickstand is down, or if the bike is in gear...
@@hell6960 Its a safety feature that don't let the bike start on my 2023 ABS Grom so you don't forget the kickstand down, and snag it on something and crash. Personally i like it that way for obvious reasons. If your bikes are starting with or without the side stand down, i would have it checked for a problem. I had thought about putting a cam, and big bore kit on my grom for more mph, but didn't have the heart to trash a brand new very dependable little bike, not to mention you have to have a tuner on the motor for fuel management, and if it does not set the fuel mixture properly, you could grenade the motor. Thats why im looking for another new small bike from the factory that has more top end of around 75-80 mph, along with the high perf cam, and 4 valve head, and leave my grom the way it is, but i really think these fellas did an amazing job of comparing these to bikes, keep up the excellent vids.
And wait the side stand switch? I can jump on my bike right now and turn on the bike while the stand is engaged. I don't know where this guy got this bike but this isn't stock, something is up here.
Here in Indonesia, I'll pick TNT135 for sure, I can buy two of it with same amount of money that I pay for one of Honda Grom 😅😅 3200$ vs 6200$, too much price gap on those two.
If the price difference was bigger in the us, I’d do it too but, only a couple hundred difference, it’s hard to say no to the grom just because Honda, history, and support.
@@FollowingDopamine grom, monkey 125 and DAX 125 are very limited here in Indonesia, because it's imported. in the other hand TNT 135 are local assembly. That's why the price gap are huge..
watching this I realized that I didn't have you ride my MSX! on your next trip you need to take it out for a spin to see how the 14in wheels change it.
@@SmallBikeStuff I was watching this and just kicking myself for not having you ride it. could have clamped all my gopros onto it and you would have had some dope footage. There is a cool route from my place as well. back onto sukhumvit, down to 103 to Sinakarndra, down to 77 and back over to Bangchak... all left hand turns and about 18km
Excellent review! It’s got bikes, cows, and freedom units! I was hoping the TNT would be more of a Grom killer, but it’s decent competition nonetheless.
I just bought a Kawasaki Z125 Pro 2017 6000 km on the odometer, mint condition for $3800 How does that compare? I had a 2019 Grom the Z125 feels better, it's higher, suspension is firm the front doesn't bottom out like the grom. It has a better, softer seat. Digital gear position. 1/2 a gallon bigger tank, it revs harder too.
@SmallBikeStuff In Australia 🇦🇺 making my own rack both for a box & or Ventura bags all weldeded to bolt straight straight on. I only need to work out how to make the upright bar removable. It has a tail tidy. I made a 3mm thick aluminium numberplate holder so you have no need to drill holes in the numberplate, it has a red rectangular reflector underneath it & and an orange round reflector on each side. I worked as a welder. Why make a rack. The only place I could buy on was in the US expensive & so was the freight. It looked flimsy held by 2 bolts with a 5 kg capacity. Mine will be held by 4 bolts & and another 2, braced by a strut on both sides braced by the same bar that holds the rear set foot pegs on. The bike mainly be used for around town grocery shopping when I don't need to use the car. I have USB for phone charging, a phone mount. For satnav & digital speedo, & helmet lock on the handlebars & Bluetooth.
Are you serious. I have the Grom abs and not impressed vs benelli but I wanted brand new (no benelli when I looked but today new 125 benelli arrived not 135 now
Cool take on the 135, I prefer the Grom for its aftermarket parts and the fact that it's been around longer means photos/videos of builds like a 300 swap or even a turbo 👀 👀
I’d take the Grom too! If ya forced me to choose anyway. But it would have to be the new 2022 5 speed one. Throw me a Benelli any day for a ride though and I’ll happily jump on it - but everyone loves to ride different bikes.
OK, the Benelli is a Grom clone just like the various Vaders. The problem I see most about the clones are poor quality control issues (welding, cheap metal parts, poor quality bolts etc) and the need to substitute Honda parts into the clone to make it more reliable. So, is the Benelli quality closer to the Vader clones or closer to the Grom quality?
Im considering to swap my 150cc 14hp (16hp with exhaust) Honda for a 135 Benelli. Im any way going to get my self a 302S in 2022. Would you recommend me swapping my 150 for the 135?
I didn't quite get what you ment by needing to hold the bike up when starting it besides it will only start with the kick stand up?? If so what year is this cuz I got a 2021 and mine starts with the kick stand down and no clutch
Seems like you got some paid trolls on here. Appreciate the video. Gonna look into buying one of these, but need to get my motorcycle license. Good Stuff Sir!
I had new 1st n 2nd gen groms in the UK, i bought a tnt 125 and it was evenly matched but the benelli beat it on steep hills, for the money the tnt has so many good points over the Honda but new plugs and leads make a difference on the 1st gen models, not ridden the newer ones but for the money the Honda had crappy tires, seat and suspension so that bumped the cost of improving it from new much more money so the tnt is a no brainer unless you want to mod it heavily as the motor is hard to tune even with a big bore kit, but can fit bigger motors if you have the skills.
The 2022 Grom is all new and even better than the previous Grom you have in this video. Can't beat Honda quality and reputation. Grom is a better bike overall.
@@bfarm44 There is no transmission issue. The transmission sounds different because it's new and a 5-speed. There are people complaining about the sound, because it's different, but I'm not seeing anyone with breakdowns. My Grom makes the same noise. Honda says it's the normal noise this transmission makes.
I have the 5speed abs Grom no issues yet 1000miles. I can't get it near 60mph unless I'm flat on seat and has to be flat. I'm going to test ride new 125 Benelli in an hour. If it can do same speed I'll buy
It be more relevant to compare the TNT with the Grom, not the Honda msx. Had the actual Honda Grom (abs) for 22 months now, as a second hand bike, which was way before the video was made. The fuel consumption (didn't have a TNT) and amount of service centers Honda have made the decision easy
@@SmallBikeStuff yup definitely, when one is comparing a 4 gear transmission bike vs a 5 gear, when clearing there is a 5 gear version for the Grom available. Didn't state it's a sponsored video or anything. Should have stated upfront to made it worth the viewers time.
@elcpc thanks. Yeah, I figured that out later after I actually saw one. I figured it couldn't be like that & if it is was, it was definitely a 1 year design flaw lol
I know the metric system is definitely superior to our made up units of measurement, but what is the reasoning for left or right road travel? Genuinely curious.
I dont know if things were fixed in newer models but my 135 will start with the kickstand down and the tool kit comes with tools to take off most bolts which was a nice touch. Well built bike for the price and in my opinion a great option over the grom. I hope in the future we will get more aftermarket options to really make it a good competitor to the grom. I also dont think my neutral light comes on in 5th gear but I'll look for it next time I ride.
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I got the Benelli for my first bike, got it with 1 mile and it currently has 7,190 miles on it. Only things I have done is change the tires, valve adjustment and frequent oil changes. It great for wheelies and I have had no problems with this bike, it's great.
What gear are you doing the wheelies in ?
@@carlosjavierrodriguezherre8513 I'm still in first
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is valve adjustment hard to do yourself? im not mechanically minded
@@gordonwu87 no it's not, I just followed the instructions on TH-cam videos. You will need a valve gauge set.
One miss here is the Grom has a single spine frame vs the Benelli trellis frame being much stronger and rigid especially on side loading. Add 41mm vs 31mm forks and you a much stronger platform. You’re have to spend $850 plus labor to get the Grom a 4 valve head, and who doesn’t like the analog tach over a LCD. Benelli seams like a much better value for money and I own two other Honda motorcycles.
Thanks for the video. I've been riding for 50 years. I had a sportbike accident in 2019 where I was very badly injured. I'm over the 160 MPH stuff now and just want to have some fun. The Benelli is My choice. Thanks for the video!
The Binelli is a better bike and easier to mod plenty of parts available do not need an entire exhaust the Binelli handles better and has a better suspension I traded in my grom for it and I’m a lot happier. Paid 2600.00 for a used Binelli changed the intake, got the cat delete pipe reflash Ed the ecu. Won’t be trading it in for anything
What kind of power gains did that net you? Top speed higher?
I have a Kawasaki z125 pro 2017 and i love it. It still puts a smile on my face everytime i ride it. Thats what all the minimotos do for us.
Z125's are great. New Zealand never really got them sadly.
I would suggest the reason you can't start it with the kickstand down in neutral, is the same reason the N light is on in 5th gear.
Problem with the gear sensor.
Mine starts and runs fine in neutral, stand down.
Thanks for watching!
I think the price on the TNT is about $400 less than the Grom new MSRP.. Id go Grom, also with the much larger aftermarket and dealer support.. Also can get ABS on the Grom now and it is a 5spd also. But the TNT especially in the bright green color looks awesome..
At one point at the beginning you hit the rev limiter on the highway in top gear. I wonder if it would benefit from a slight sprocket change.
Thanks for watching!
Things I’ve concluded from this video, New Zealand is beautiful 🤩
It really is! Thanks for watching.
Woah! didn't know there was a lot of tech in this one. Always thought it was just a Grom copy but with 135cc's. Argh! I always loved the Upside down-styled forks. Even a buddy of mine put on the Kawasaki 125 forks to his Suzuki Belang.
I owned one last year. Was a great bike. Speedometer is always off by 4 mph, but you can easily program it to proper speeds 55-60 top speed. Much much better looking than grom and always passed groms. feel free to ask any questions
I do have one question.... wheelies?
Thanks for watching!
@@tuckerhendershott3979 yes alot of people use them as little pit/stunt bikes theres enough juice to get the front wheel up with a proper clutch pop
i’m so stuck between the 2😩
Hey bro just wondering how you adjust the speed and such so you get the most power out the gait? Def interested in this!
The dude said "Freedom Units". He gets a like and a follow for that one
I thought after the first two minutes you were going to say it makes you feel like Pinocchio when he’s looking for Monstro.
We built a Green 135 and it's still for sale. We went all out and put on every go fast part we could find when we built it. It's got a Yoshi pipe, Big Bore kit, racing cam, short ram air intake, sex machine racing clutches, engine management system, and high flow injector. This little thing rips!
Just curious what the the top speed in mph
Thanks for watching!
how much lol
available ?@@cadenblair3306
@@kevinstarner7929 guessing it wasn’t that impressive as he couldn’t answer😂 Maybe it just got to 60 a little quicker.
maybe the neutral light on in fifth is to remind you are on fifth and can count down the gears easily, rode for 43 years never had a counter before, even my last bile a 2012 Yamaha 250 did not have one
My friend and I went to a motorcycle shop today to check out some gear and were set on Honda Groms, but so hard to find NEW out here, so we ended up sitting on the Benelux they had their and almost are completely convinced just haven’t sat on the Honda Grom to make a full and final decision. Great reviews on both bikes, my friend and I are really doing a lot of research on both and this definitely helps out.
Thanks for watching! Love the longer comments. Thanks for taking the time to write it out. Good luck with your choice!
BENELLI tnt 135 is true beautiful bike ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
It does look awesome!
"I'd rather a CT-125" Haha! Is the CT-125 selling well over there? Thanks for the review, interesting stuff 👍
Did they just come out with that this year or what, Is it like a newer version of the old ct 90’s and 70’s or what
It's over $6.5K for the Honda Cub here in NZ. Not too popular at that price.
You can get a Suzuki GSX 155 SF for $1,000 less.
How much of a weight difference is there between you and the other rider? On those little engines it doesn't take much to make a big difference in performance.
Top of the day. Can you please compare the BENELLI TNT 135 to a KYMCO SPADE 150?
I have a Spade and would like to see that comparison. I'm not sure these guys are in the States or parts of Asia and the Spade is only available in those markets unless things have changed. In Asia it's called the Air. I love my Spade other then delays on getting OEM parts at the moment and not much aftermarket like the Grom. I've not ridden any of the others, so couldn't give you a comparison opinion.
@@davidklementis5913 never heard of this Spade
Im 65 my 4 speed Grom.has its grins and disapointments.
Ergonomics of seat,and controls need improvement. The stay on front indicators are confusing, liking the handling...brake pedal tiny and to inboard..mirrors too short..hate how theyve put the key down a hole..horn button smothers the indicator switch.
LOL @ Freedom Units. I might be one of them. But I got a general idea of how the conversion works.
My binelli has 40kmiles shit is still alive
Good distance!
Thank you for offering the Freedom Units 😂🤣
Love the video!
You bet! Thanks for watching!
Ducati mini fun bike. Sexy exhaust pipes + iron bars. Better choice ! 😀😆🤣
Nice comparison! I have both and agree with your thoughts, grom feels tighter overall but benelli is more comfortable and less harsh (I also don't have the bad vibrations people mention) at speed. Still though, if I had to keep one I would probably go with the grom, had it longer and aftermarket is much more prominent.
Awesome to hear from someone that has both. It’s hard to make a solid comparison after only a few hours of riding but your comment makes me feel like it did the bikes justice. I feel the same way if I was forced to choose between both. Honda for me please!
Does the neutral light double as a top gear indicator light 🤔
I feel like that'll be the case, I would like that on my Grom once I hit that succulent 4th gear...
Aw... you beat me to it!
@@harrisdoesthings my 2023 grom has an indicator light through all five gears, and has a clock, and tells you your fuel milage, and tip meter 1 and 2. The motors for the 2022, and 2023 have 10-1 compression, 5 speed, but only 9 hp, but it hauls my 255lb ass around ok. I am looking for a more comfy seat though, or a gel seat of some sort, im 70yrs old and after about 50mi or so my back and tail bone start hurting, but i havent tried adjusting the shock yet, that may help.
I purchased a 2022 grom (MY21) It definitely can't get close to freeway speed and anything over 80kmh is questionable if not flat ground. Problem is new benelli is 125 now
Always tough if you're after top speed on a tiny bike. Thanks for watching!
Hi I know it’s a bit of an ask but I’m in the uk and would love to ride a motorbike but my inside leg is only around 66cm so I can’t find a bike where I can reach the ground safely with both feet,I sat on a monkey and still couldn’t reach,the wide seat doesn’t help.Can a grom be lowered? Or what bike might you suggest.I haven’t passed my first bike test cbt in England because I can’t fit on any of their bikes,I will only be able to ride up to a 125cc x
A grom could be lowered for sure but try the Monkey if they have them available. They feel like a nicer for for smaller people.
Maybe neutral light is on purpose in 5th gear to show your in the highest gear
I want a mini moto that I can take on the highway for short stretches. I commute from a suburb to the city and theres a stretch of 70mph highway i’d like it to be able to handle. Guess i’ll have to go with a full size bike.
Thanks for watching!
That's pretty funny that you can't start yours with the kickstand down...mine, on the other hand, doesn't care if the kickstand is down, or if the bike is in gear...
What tf does that matter
@@hell6960 Its a safety feature that don't let the bike start on my 2023 ABS Grom so you don't forget the kickstand down, and snag it on something and crash. Personally i like it that way for obvious reasons. If your bikes are starting with or without the side stand down, i would have it checked for a problem. I had thought about putting a cam, and big bore kit on my grom for more mph, but didn't have the heart to trash a brand new very dependable little bike, not to mention you have to have a tuner on the motor for fuel management, and if it does not set the fuel mixture properly, you could grenade the motor. Thats why im looking for another new small bike from the factory that has more top end of around 75-80 mph, along with the high perf cam, and 4 valve head, and leave my grom the way it is, but i really think these fellas did an amazing job of comparing these to bikes, keep up the excellent vids.
Had my Benelli for 2 years and never once seen the Neutral light on when it's not in neutral.
And wait the side stand switch? I can jump on my bike right now and turn on the bike while the stand is engaged. I don't know where this guy got this bike but this isn't stock, something is up here.
Yep..same here...never seen that neutral light when the bike is not in neutral and it idles on the side stand no problem.
Here in Indonesia, I'll pick TNT135 for sure, I can buy two of it with same amount of money that I pay for one of Honda Grom 😅😅
3200$ vs 6200$, too much price gap on those two.
Yeah I would do the same. Thanks for watching!
If the price difference was bigger in the us, I’d do it too but, only a couple hundred difference, it’s hard to say no to the grom just because Honda, history, and support.
@@FollowingDopamine grom, monkey 125 and DAX 125 are very limited here in Indonesia, because it's imported. in the other hand TNT 135 are local assembly. That's why the price gap are huge..
Yeah, in Philippines as well the price of Grom is more than twice the price of TNT135, so i rather chose TNT
As long that Benneli TNT 135cc can goes 140 km/h with stock valve, that would be so good.
That would be ideal!
How tall are you guys for fit on these bikes? Any problem with knees hitting handlebars?
No problems with that. Just gotta take time getting used to the size.
Tnt cost less, has better suspension, looks better and has more power.
Thanks for watching!
A worthy competitor to the legendary MSX125. Nice video bro!
I have the 2022 Grom. Fifth gear really makes for a smoother ride. Mine is also yellow, and everyone knows yellow is just faster...
For me, red was always the fast colour! The 5 speed is a worthwhile addition to the model too. Nice bike.
watching this I realized that I didn't have you ride my MSX! on your next trip you need to take it out for a spin to see how the 14in wheels change it.
I'm editing that video at the moment! So many things I wish I had more time for in Bangkok.
@@SmallBikeStuff I was watching this and just kicking myself for not having you ride it. could have clamped all my gopros onto it and you would have had some dope footage. There is a cool route from my place as well. back onto sukhumvit, down to 103 to Sinakarndra, down to 77 and back over to Bangchak... all left hand turns and about 18km
@@IdeaStudioBKK that would have been a trip down memory lane. I used to commute down Srinakarindra. So cool!
@@SmallBikeStuff It's a mess right now because they are building the BTS extensions, so not fantastic but not bad at all.
What mpg does the Benelli get?
I get 110-115 mpg on mine and i am always riding it full hooligan. I could probably get better if i was easier on the throttle
Excellent review! It’s got bikes, cows, and freedom units! I was hoping the TNT would be more of a Grom killer, but it’s decent competition nonetheless.
Glad you liked it! What’s a video filmed in the Kiwi countryside without cows?!?! Agreed though, I was surprised by how evenly matched they were.
I just bought a Kawasaki Z125 Pro 2017 6000 km on the odometer, mint condition for $3800
How does that compare?
I had a 2019 Grom the Z125 feels better, it's higher, suspension is firm the front doesn't bottom out like the grom. It has a better, softer seat.
Digital gear position.
1/2 a gallon bigger tank, it revs harder too.
The Kawasaki is a really nice machine. We didn't get many of them in NZ. Nice buy!
@SmallBikeStuff In Australia 🇦🇺 making my own rack both for a box & or Ventura bags all weldeded to bolt straight straight on.
I only need to work out how to make the upright bar removable.
It has a tail tidy.
I made a 3mm thick aluminium numberplate holder so you have no need to drill holes in the numberplate, it has a red rectangular reflector underneath it & and an orange round reflector on each side.
I worked as a welder.
Why make a rack.
The only place I could buy on was in the US expensive & so was the freight.
It looked flimsy held by 2 bolts with a 5 kg capacity.
Mine will be held by 4 bolts & and another 2, braced by a strut on both sides braced by the same bar that holds the rear set foot pegs on.
The bike mainly be used for around town grocery shopping when I don't need to use the car.
I have USB for phone charging, a phone mount. For satnav & digital speedo, & helmet lock on the handlebars & Bluetooth.
Freedom units... Outstanding...
Thanks for watching!
Soo want one of these just subbed keep up great work 💯
Thanks for the sub! Appreciate ya.
You gotta try a 2022 Grom now
Are you serious. I have the Grom abs and not impressed vs benelli but I wanted brand new (no benelli when I looked but today new 125 benelli arrived not 135 now
When it came to him being the better rider does he weigh more or less than you?
We were the same when filming. Now I’m a bit bigger 🤣🤣🤣
with bikw stick in nuetral it dont have the proper power
Thanks for watching!
Great video dude 👌👌
"it looks like a Suzuki GN125 motor"
You know... Yes it does!
also, my GN125 had that sidestand swtich. I was able to put the sidestand back down after starting it just fine. I imagine this bike is the same.
Thanks for watching!
Cool take on the 135, I prefer the Grom for its aftermarket parts and the fact that it's been around longer means photos/videos of builds like a 300 swap or even a turbo 👀 👀
I’d take the Grom too! If ya forced me to choose anyway. But it would have to be the new 2022 5 speed one. Throw me a Benelli any day for a ride though and I’ll happily jump on it - but everyone loves to ride different bikes.
There are 450 swaps on the benelli on TH-cam, guy in the U.S builds them.
Absolutely o shortage of aftermarket parts for the binelli
Putting a turbo on a Grom will shorten your engine life.
Holy shit I only hit 75 mph on the 135.
I’m in New Zealand. We use KPH.
For those of you who need freedom units 😂
Haha gotta make sure we accommodate for all!
Thanks for the quality review and a proper comparison there sir. Looks like I'm getting the TNT 135 in a few weeks. Cheers!
It's a great bike! You'll have fun. Thanks for watching!
OK, the Benelli is a Grom clone just like the various Vaders. The problem I see most about the clones are poor quality control issues (welding, cheap metal parts, poor quality bolts etc) and the need to substitute Honda parts into the clone to make it more reliable. So, is the Benelli quality closer to the Vader clones or closer to the Grom quality?
Im considering to swap my 150cc 14hp (16hp with exhaust) Honda for a 135 Benelli. Im any way going to get my self a 302S in 2022.
Would you recommend me swapping my 150 for the 135?
Chinese manufacture and assembly. No spare parts available. Lousy tires. No heritage for incremental improvements/dealing with issues.
Thanks for watching!
If only I could understand him 🤔
I speak tooo fast! Haha
@@SmallBikeStuff ok 😊
Great video mate 👍😎
Glad you enjoyed! it!
I didn't quite get what you ment by needing to hold the bike up when starting it besides it will only start with the kick stand up?? If so what year is this cuz I got a 2021 and mine starts with the kick stand down and no clutch
That one likely had a side stand switch issue I have discovered.
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I would have liked to know “Why?”
Ken would have chosen the Bernelli ...
If it were me, the only reason would be the little extra power, and miles per hour, but i would still keep my 2023 ABS grom.
Speed 👎 não good for 125cc
hi, for bikes like these…are motorcycle licenses needed? im tryna learn before i go and purchase anything
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not sure the N light is a detraction.. id just use it to know im in 5th so you dont ghost shift
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They just used a tack set for a 4 speed prob idk tho like both of em
Yeah they do look good, both of them.
Thanks fot this.
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@@SmallBikeStuff and bought one (the Grom, Honda quality and 5 year warranty)
Excellent video. Thanks
Wooow ....nice bro
Thank you to you and cos that was good respect
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Don't be fooled by the name. It's made by Ojanjiang which is a Chinese company that owns Benelli. Junk as far as I'm concerned. Honda all day.
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Seems like you got some paid trolls on here. Appreciate the video. Gonna look into buying one of these, but need to get my motorcycle license. Good Stuff Sir!
Except they are completely reliable and your full of crap
They are the same price here in iowa
Interesting!
So the new 5speed Grom is the one then?
Probably! Still haven't ridden the 5 speed yet.
I had new 1st n 2nd gen groms in the UK, i bought a tnt 125 and it was evenly matched but the benelli beat it on steep hills, for the money the tnt has so many good points over the Honda but new plugs and leads make a difference on the 1st gen models, not ridden the newer ones but for the money the Honda had crappy tires, seat and suspension so that bumped the cost of improving it from new much more money so the tnt is a no brainer unless you want to mod it heavily as the motor is hard to tune even with a big bore kit, but can fit bigger motors if you have the skills.
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Benelli TNT looks better to me
It does look cool!
You gotta learn to downshift
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Awesome review. I wonder how the 125 Duke is compared with these but at under $4k (nzd) the tnt looks like it's not to bad.
Have Gromie Bear test it out.
Great suggestion!
The Benelli has a real frame
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Proper review indeed
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How about benelli 150?
Haven't ridden it.
Ow...
Do we need a motorcycle license to drive this here in NZ? Which one do you reckon suits for first riders?
Yes, learners motorcycle license is the minimum requirement
It's so beautiful.
But what's his top speed?
Enough. But not so fast ;) Thanks for watching!
Eh... as long as you're having fun!
I have a 2001 Bandit 1200S that a 5 gear really anoying it will power wheelie in 3rd gear.
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The 2022 Grom is all new and even better than the previous Grom you have in this video. Can't beat Honda quality and reputation. Grom is a better bike overall.
Look into the transmission issue on the new grom.
@@bfarm44 There is no transmission issue. The transmission sounds different because it's new and a 5-speed. There are people complaining about the sound, because it's different, but I'm not seeing anyone with breakdowns. My Grom makes the same noise. Honda says it's the normal noise this transmission makes.
I have the 5speed abs Grom no issues yet 1000miles. I can't get it near 60mph unless I'm flat on seat and has to be flat. I'm going to test ride new 125 Benelli in an hour. If it can do same speed I'll buy
@@jamesgeorgevellavella1961 let me know! benelli or grom?
It be more relevant to compare the TNT with the Grom, not the Honda msx. Had the actual Honda Grom (abs) for 22 months now, as a second hand bike, which was way before the video was made. The fuel consumption (didn't have a TNT) and amount of service centers Honda have made the decision easy
The grom and the MSX are exactly the same bike.
@@SmallBikeStuff Grom is 5 gear dude. Msx are 4 gear only.
@@thefellcor that’s incorrect but I don’t think this is worth the effort. 🤣
@@SmallBikeStuff yup definitely, when one is comparing a 4 gear transmission bike vs a 5 gear, when clearing there is a 5 gear version for the Grom available. Didn't state it's a sponsored video or anything. Should have stated upfront to made it worth the viewers time.
@@thefellcor 🤣🤣🤣
Everything is nice and easy and wholesole until the SUZUKI RAIDER R150 arrived there. Bro you should review that beast from SUZUKI someday
I didn't know you couldn't have it in neutral w/ the kickstand down. Kind of a bummer, but it is so light probably wouldn't matter much
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Mine runs with the kickstand down...until you put it in gear, then it cuts out...but it idles in neutral on the side stand, no problem.
@elcpc thanks. Yeah, I figured that out later after I actually saw one. I figured it couldn't be like that & if it is was, it was definitely a 1 year design flaw lol
BRO ITS MAKING ME SO MAD THAT YOUR RIDING ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD
That sounds like a YOU problem my friend.
I know the metric system is definitely superior to our made up units of measurement, but what is the reasoning for left or right road travel? Genuinely curious.
A rider should always ride the seat near the front and not ride way back on the seal
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Yea, I looked at the specs and it’s actually 11.9 horsepower not 13.
135 was closer to 13. The newer 125 is lower.
Kann man die Benelli 135 auch mit einem Autoführerschein fahren?
In my country we need a motorcycle license for it.
FREEDOM UNITSSSSS
I dont know if things were fixed in newer models but my 135 will start with the kickstand down and the tool kit comes with tools to take off most bolts which was a nice touch. Well built bike for the price and in my opinion a great option over the grom. I hope in the future we will get more aftermarket options to really make it a good competitor to the grom. I also dont think my neutral light comes on in 5th gear but I'll look for it next time I ride.
Same that threw me off when saying it wouldn’t start with the kickstand down, mine starts up just fine.
You seriously won me over with the cow love.
Cows love small bikes!