I've only discovered this channel recently as I am looking to remake my office, you guys have incredible production quality and really do cover everything. I get excited when I search for something (like "keyboard trays") and find that you guys have a video covering it. Love you guys. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for producing and sharing these stellar videos illustrating the pros and cons of using various office furniture! Keep up the great work BTOD as I've passing your channel along to several others over the last year.
Hi, and thanks for this video. I happened to notice that the armrest of the chair in some of the scenes is at the same level as your arm itself. I realise this is just a demo video of course. But the question that nags me is, whether the armrest should be out of the way while typing. Perhaps lower? My current chair has this same-level issue and I’m finding it quite uncomfortable to type. Thanks in advance for any tips.
Is there a keyboard tray designed for ergonomic keyboards? My ergo keyboard is 11 inches deep at deepest point. When you allow for gel pads there is no way this is going to fit. Any ideas?
For the depth issue, I attached a couple of lumber pieces of the same height as my support. This way I created the flat surface that I needed for the track.
People who buy keyboard trays without thinking about leg space are simply impetuous. It's not the trays design fault, it's the user who buys one for a desk that does not fit the requirements of the said item.
My concern with a steel tray is static building up and causing shocks, both to me and (worse) to my electronics. I would think that's a problem for any type of metal component that isn't grounded in some way.
If this is a concern you can definitely run a grounding wire from this to your computer chassis (which is grounded through the power supply) this just means drilling a hole and crimping on some connectors to a cable and bolting it on
With a standing desk, do you even need a keyboard tray? With height adjustability, wouldn’t the entire surface of the desk be a keyboard tray (effectively)?
Great question! Half of our office has keyboard trays and the other half doesn't. The reason you would need a keyboard tray on an adjustable height desk is to get yourself more ergonomic with your monitor(s) and keyboard tray. The way some people's monitors sit, they need a keyboard tray under their desk so their arms don't sit too high on their desk. Also, there are some standing desks that don't go low enough for shorter people. Adding a keyboard tray helps bring the desk down a little more so they can type with their feet flat on the floor. Hope this helps! - TK
I picked up a sit-stand desk that is too high for me in the lowest position. I had a clamp-on keyboard tray, but this desk has bevelled edges, so it isn't staying on the way I need it to. Plus the bar from the mechanism runs down the centre of the desk, so there is only 9" from the bar to the front of the desk (it has the cutout on the front). I haven't found a short mounted one, and haven't figured out how to make the clamps work better on the bevelled edge. Any ideas?
I am having this same exact issue. My desk (Vari) goes down to 25" which still isn't low enough for me. When I try to sit closer to the desk my knees hit the metal support that runs underneath.
I am having the same issue, my sit to stand is not low enough. Then in my search I had an idea, if i can't find a keyboard tray to fit, why not try a platform under the chair. I'm on the drawing board with this idea.. hope it works out..
Visited your website, looking for a product that is shown @7:36; searched on your website for keyboard trays, found 8 pages of 10 videos on each... where the product's picture is obscured by a large banner video title. Not knowing the product's name, I gave up
@BTODtv tbh as a gamer every single keyboard tray the market provides sucks 100% lets say my desk is 140cm than i want a keyboard tray over the whole freaking length of the table because i actualy need the space. enough distance so the tableplate itself is not in the way can be pulled out far enough (optimaly this would be adjustable at individal lvls on the fly) the ultimate goal is maximum space, sturdy and the tray matching my armchair height for maximum ergonomics and relaxation. this would ultimatley lead to that my eyes are exactly or slightly above the center of my screen once achived this is ultimativley the best setup. ---------- every other approach leads to either chair heigt does not match table feet cannot touch ground monitor elvation needed to mach eye lvl or eyeline slightly above center of the screen ( wich is pain to achive ) more strain in the shoulders need to look down or up at the screen (not cool) sadly the industry doesn´t seem to provide that at all probably because they made so bad trays since decades that people do not realize how freaking usefull they actualy are.
#3 Set Up incorrectly - then why don't you set it up correctly and make this video again?! Why? Why do you bend your back and neck, can't you lift your table so your monitor will be in front of your eyes and not in front of the belly? Useless review and total sad to hear it from "manufacturer with experience"
We do have a video on setting it up correctly. You just got mad that we didn’t answer the exact questions you were looking for on the first video you watched. Solid username choice. Fits you well. -Ryan
Very frustrating to see your video. You have no idea what you are talking about. We have done thousands of ergonomic assessments and its clear you have no idea what you are saying. The very bad example of a tray you have is unfortunate because we use 27 inch long trays that are low profile, adjust to 5.5" below the worksurface, create more space on your desk as they stow away your keys and your mouse. They allow for proper wrist posture, proper distance from the screen and better back support because people don't have to lean forward like you are showing in your video. Sadly, bad trays give trays a bad name and that's what your video is doing too. Boooooo
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I've only discovered this channel recently as I am looking to remake my office, you guys have incredible production quality and really do cover everything. I get excited when I search for something (like "keyboard trays") and find that you guys have a video covering it. Love you guys. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the feedback Tyson! We love you too! - TK
This has to be a bot or shill account. Come on man.
Thanks for producing and sharing these stellar videos illustrating the pros and cons of using various office furniture! Keep up the great work BTOD as I've passing your channel along to several others over the last year.
Knee clearance , THE #1 issue, you are so right.
Thank you, hopefully you found the video helpful! - GK
This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. What a great video on keyboard trays. Thanks!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching! -Gk
Hi, and thanks for this video. I happened to notice that the armrest of the chair in some of the scenes is at the same level as your arm itself. I realise this is just a demo video of course. But the question that nags me is, whether the armrest should be out of the way while typing. Perhaps lower? My current chair has this same-level issue and I’m finding it quite uncomfortable to type. Thanks in advance for any tips.
this guy is good. I feel like he is qualified.
Hello, I am looking for a computer desk with an ergonomic keyboard tray. Would you have some recommendations please? Thank you
Is there a keyboard tray designed for ergonomic keyboards? My ergo keyboard is 11 inches deep at deepest point. When you allow for gel pads there is no way this is going to fit. Any ideas?
For the depth issue, I attached a couple of lumber pieces of the same height as my support. This way I created the flat surface that I needed for the track.
That’s what I was thinking.
Helpful thanks!! Can the longer mounts be attached side ways landscape ?
Can you demo the Myriad keyboard trays you sell? It would be great to see bounce tests on those.
I ponder this all the time.
You and me both :) - GK
People who buy keyboard trays without thinking about leg space are simply impetuous. It's not the trays design fault, it's the user who buys one for a desk that does not fit the requirements of the said item.
What product was shown in the demonstration?
Well spoken , clear explanations. TY.
Glad it was helpful! -GK
What if I need my keyboard shortcuts while drawing on a graphics tablet for creative studio and artwork?
Attach the tray to the chair: Problem solved!
My concern with a steel tray is static building up and causing shocks, both to me and (worse) to my electronics. I would think that's a problem for any type of metal component that isn't grounded in some way.
If this is a concern you can definitely run a grounding wire from this to your computer chassis (which is grounded through the power supply) this just means drilling a hole and crimping on some connectors to a cable and bolting it on
With a standing desk, do you even need a keyboard tray?
With height adjustability, wouldn’t the entire surface of the desk be a keyboard tray (effectively)?
Great question! Half of our office has keyboard trays and the other half doesn't. The reason you would need a keyboard tray on an adjustable height desk is to get yourself more ergonomic with your monitor(s) and keyboard tray. The way some people's monitors sit, they need a keyboard tray under their desk so their arms don't sit too high on their desk. Also, there are some standing desks that don't go low enough for shorter people. Adding a keyboard tray helps bring the desk down a little more so they can type with their feet flat on the floor. Hope this helps! - TK
Also, extra space.
Yes, and you can always put your monitor/laptop on a stand or arm to get it the right height.
What about the clamp styles, what is the best in that arena?
Definitely the Vivo
I picked up a sit-stand desk that is too high for me in the lowest position. I had a clamp-on keyboard tray, but this desk has bevelled edges, so it isn't staying on the way I need it to. Plus the bar from the mechanism runs down the centre of the desk, so there is only 9" from the bar to the front of the desk (it has the cutout on the front). I haven't found a short mounted one, and haven't figured out how to make the clamps work better on the bevelled edge. Any ideas?
I am having this same exact issue. My desk (Vari) goes down to 25" which still isn't low enough for me. When I try to sit closer to the desk my knees hit the metal support that runs underneath.
I am having the same issue, my sit to stand is not low enough. Then in my search I had an idea, if i can't find a keyboard tray to fit, why not try a platform under the chair. I'm on the drawing board with this idea.. hope it works out..
I have the same issues
Visited your website, looking for a product that is shown @7:36; searched on your website for keyboard trays, found 8 pages of 10 videos on each... where the product's picture is obscured by a large banner video title. Not knowing the product's name, I gave up
okay 5 year video. was hoping to find a way to stop the keyboard drawer from sliding back as I use the keyboard.
Very helpful, thank you.
You’re welcome! - GK
Damn $200 for a keyboard tray, that better be made here in the USA at that price.
You bet it is! -GK
I need help!! I just need to tell someone what I have and them to tell me what to order
this is good only for office or who work in home
But my problem is still not solved, my keyboard tray does not come out, I accidentally pushed it in too hard, and now its stuck.
Thank you this was very informative and relevant to me
great advise, thanks
i love his hands going back to the same position
Thanks, me too! :) -GK
great stuff!!
Thanks! -GK
This shit is awesome, I feel like it’s Bobby from Bobby’s world all grown up, just letting the people know what’s up with keyboard trays.
@BTODtv
tbh as a gamer every single keyboard tray the market provides sucks 100%
lets say my desk is 140cm
than i want a keyboard tray over the whole freaking length of the table because i actualy need the space.
enough distance so the tableplate itself is not in the way
can be pulled out far enough (optimaly this would be adjustable at individal lvls on the fly)
the ultimate goal is maximum space, sturdy and the tray matching my armchair height for maximum ergonomics and relaxation.
this would ultimatley lead to that my eyes are exactly or slightly above the center of my screen
once achived this is ultimativley the best setup.
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every other approach leads to either chair heigt does not match table
feet cannot touch ground
monitor elvation needed to mach eye lvl or eyeline slightly above center of the screen ( wich is pain to achive )
more strain in the shoulders
need to look down or up at the screen (not cool)
sadly the industry doesn´t seem to provide that at all probably because they made so bad trays since decades that people do not realize how freaking usefull they actualy are.
Jesus the corporate jingle
Just keep it on your lap guys problem solved
Best way to use a keyboard tray is to not install them at all ... I hate those things.
Please change the preschool music
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put the keyboard on the desk damn it 🤪
#3 Set Up incorrectly
- then why don't you set it up correctly and make this video again?! Why? Why do you bend your back and neck, can't you lift your table so your monitor will be in front of your eyes and not in front of the belly?
Useless review and total sad to hear it from "manufacturer with experience"
We do have a video on setting it up correctly. You just got mad that we didn’t answer the exact questions you were looking for on the first video you watched. Solid username choice. Fits you well. -Ryan
@@btodtv I was actually looking for problems, but the real ones and not imagined for the sake of your product marketing.
@@btodtv So why don't you post the link here and explain that when following the "correct setup" - users don't need to watch this deprecated info?
Very frustrating to see your video. You have no idea what you are talking about. We have done thousands of ergonomic assessments and its clear you have no idea what you are saying. The very bad example of a tray you have is unfortunate because we use 27 inch long trays that are low profile, adjust to 5.5" below the worksurface, create more space on your desk as they stow away your keys and your mouse. They allow for proper wrist posture, proper distance from the screen and better back support because people don't have to lean forward like you are showing in your video. Sadly, bad trays give trays a bad name and that's what your video is doing too. Boooooo
Very frustrating to read your comment. Continue to bury your head in the sand and pretend your trays are perfect for every situation 😉 -Greg