Detroits are great generator engines. That instant throttle response let’s it pick up load incredibly fast with very little frequency drop. AT&T used them exclusively for standby power. Some as large as 16V-149’s / 1500 KW. They could start and go right to full load in 10 seconds. Only bad part is the 149’s were the absolute worst on emissions. Most were eventually replaced with 16V-92’s which produced the same power and were much cleaner running.
@@LORFCASTER I possibly the same power and torque but with increased stress on the engine as it may be running higher supercharger pressure than the larger engine, therefore increasing engine stress and decreasing engine life.
@@Hogger280 Yes, I read about that years ago in a Detroit Diesel advertisement. This DD 12V149 looks and sounds like an incredibly reliable engine, but were not the greatest on emissions, in all respect to the engine's durability.
Ya gotta love a two stroke. I wish they made a small v12 car motor, that would be some badass shit. Ever seen a Mercedes EM707 ? Raps like a bike motor.
@@TheBeeMan1994 1938 until 1966 . It has a bore of 8+1⁄2 in (216 mm), a stroke of 10 in (254 mm) and a displacement of 567 cu in (9.29 L) per cylinder 😉 ... imagine that
We used these on a Westburne drilling rig back in the 70's in Alberta. Had 3 of them you brought on line in stages, the deeper you drilled. Late at night, running wide open, drilling slowly, middle of winter, I used snuggle down next to one for a warm nap.
used to work on a couple of ships that had 12V-149s as emergency diesel generators. they were mounted high up, a deck below the bridge - the idea being that you could still have power even with severe flooding of the engine room. when the engineers did EDG load tests you could hear that thing running anywhere in the house. great sounding engines, but if that's your only source of power aboard those ships, you're already in trouble.
When we pushed into Iraq from Kuwait we used an army personal carrier, mortar track, there were 2 Detroit diesels powering it, thing was bad ass... I was in the 50 cal turut and the straight pipe for the exhaust was right by my head, I think it hurt my hearing as much as the 50 cal rounds and mortar rounds....
@Rick Delair I take it you never had to drive many Detroits. When the 2strokers were operating right they're great but most companies never tuned them. Being a lil older now I'll take a Cat any day.
I'm also going to say that was the sweet arresting sound of a Detroit Diesel... I was taken back to my childhood era when my ears were always listening to the 6V53 on the Timberjack 550 skidders and the 6-71 in the Champion motor grader. What else can compete to Classic Detroit Diesel? Uncompromised power and off course that baritone sound.
I also ran a 740 Champion with a 671 it was the first year of the 700 series had oversized injectors it would do anything our newer grader could that had an L10 Cummins and at the end of the day used the same amount of fuel ,sure had a distinct sound
Hope you have an A Class RV, going to have to make major mods to the dog house, I've got a 37' class A, this would be a fun idea, mine is sitting right now without a engine in it... LOL I was thinking just a Cummins 5.9.....
to my knowledge - there was never a transmission designed to these guys. I'm not sure, the appointments from the 12v71 MIGHT work, but I don't know for sure.
100 ton mining trucks had these, Euclid and unit Rig both used them, probably others as well. We had 6 speed Allison automatics with hydraulic retarders behind them. CLBT6061 Allisons unless my memory is wrong.
I share that dream of owning a Deuce with a Detroit screaming upfront, but this thing would only fit in the bed of Deuce because it weights like 9,000lbs! The most practical Detroit Diesel option for a Deuce would be the 4-71T. It weights about 200lbs more than an LDS465 but makes more power and torque and you get that wonderful sound!
I've got a deuce with an 8V-71 in it ,, bastard will pull a mountain ,,I own several retired military vehicles and all are powered by 2 stroke detroits ,my 1st gen HEMTT has an 8V92TA ,i managed to get that one at a surplus auction before the government decided not to resell them and instead upgrade them ,,I love the sound of the detroit diesel ,,, so much so that i started collecting them in 1996 ,,I have since collected over 200 engines in various states of repair ,, at least half of them will run or have since i got them ,,I've got everything from a 2-71 to a 16V92 ,and also a matched pair of marine 12V-92s which both run and have just 400 hours on them yacht they were in burned at a marina i worked at and i got the salvage contract
This is the beautiful extraordinary roar of the king of the concrete jungle, it roars like a wonderful symphony for the ears. the great dd-12 simply wonderful
Puffff,a reaaly beast!!When it warmed pure power. 2 strokes as locomotive engines??? sounds like has 2 strokes. i dint know if it have the roots,but 4 turbos is enough,the roots work well in lows to sweep the exhausts .
The quickest way to score cylinder walls is to red line or load the engine before it is warmed up. Hint: idling for 1 minute does not warm it up. Diesels are more susceptible to this because the pistons heat faster than the cylinder walls and so expand quicker.
@@philipcharles9342 I know what I am talking about with many years of experience. Sad to see you expend all of your knowledge in one word and even that was incorrect.
@@Hogger280 nothing will happen to that engine it was meant to run hard and not babied. Oil pressure is up in the heads and cylinders in less then one second. Maybe stick to gasoline engines don’t mistake the two. Two different beast. These engines last 300k hours with no wear so not sure where you get your info from but it’s not accurate.
It's scary to think about the reciprocating mass of those 149cu inch sized pistons going up and down and combined with double the firing per rotation when that gets revved up.
For its displacement that Detroit Diesel 12V149 is a big, heavy and solid engine. This is compared to a Cummins VTA28 diesel of 1,710 CID, this DD has a 1,788 CID. If I'm correct, the DD 12V149 is a little over 40% heavier than the Cummins VTA28. That is amazing.
The biggest Mack tractor ever made the Mack model M100SX, formerly owned by Hallamore Corp., uses this engine. It was bought privately this past year and will be restored.
The throttle response depends on the mass of the flywheel. No flywheel attached high response but uneven idle. In case of a 2-stroke V12, the idle is balanced by the small ingnition angle. An inline 3 cylinder wouldn't even run without a flywheel.
When I was in my heavy duty mechanics pre apprenticeship at the local college, there was a guy who put a Detroit diesel v-6 53 in a pickup. You could hear it across half the town
That sound reminds me of the two 16V149's on my old sea scout ship. One of my favorite things about being in that program was hearing those engines fire up.
I was born in 71 i grew up hearing old Detroits running up down the roads from greyhound busses to old KW i love the sound of them wish they were still around like back in the day
K.C.LeJeune...... The Series 149 engines were Never set that high, not even in Marine applications..... most often they were set between 1600 and 2100 depending on application, although there were a few custom setups that ran up to 2350, but they were very rare.
@@Romans--bo7br Yup. We had guys over rev them in haul trucks and break the rocker arms. Hard to say how high they revved when they did that but I'd guess about 2500.
@@Romans--bo7br not easy to do BUT not impossible . The best candidate to try it with would be a twin steer day cab CAB OVER truck & put the engine BEHIND the cab hooked to a Allison transmission with tandem rear axles and reinforced frame . Having lots of money would also be a big help 😂 .
Incorrect. TT does not mean twin turbo or turbo aspiration in Detroit Diesel nomenclature. T designates turbo TI designates turbo intercooled TA designates turbo aftercooled TT designates tailored torque (increased fuel economy and/or constant horsepower output applications) TTA is tailored torque aftercooled. I do not know which specific engine designation is shown in this video.
149 series designations are - NA - naturally aspirated T - turbo TI - turbo intercooler TIB - turbo intercooler bypass This 149 appears to be TIB That is all.
Patrick Baptist...... these air filters are only used on this engine because it's in a "Trade School " shop and is only used for demonstration purposes. I can assure you that the actual filters used in any "real world" Series 149 application are considerably larger than those used in your truck.
Roman Vasquez..... No sir, they did Not... because the Series 149's were only used in large industrial and Marine applications, and therefore there was no need for Jakes.
Detroits are great generator engines. That instant throttle response let’s it pick up load incredibly fast with very little frequency drop. AT&T used them exclusively for standby power. Some as large as 16V-149’s / 1500 KW. They could start and go right to full load in 10 seconds. Only bad part is the 149’s were the absolute worst on emissions. Most were eventually replaced with 16V-92’s which produced the same power and were much cleaner running.
16v92 produce the same power as 16v149's ? o_O ?
@@LORFCASTER I possibly the same power and torque but with increased stress on the engine as it may be running higher supercharger pressure than the larger engine, therefore increasing engine stress and decreasing engine life.
we ran one of these in a scallop dragger it had well over 30 thousand hours on it worked perfect and never let us down once .
Red Adair wouldn't use anything but Detroit Diesels in his trucks and pumps.
@@Hogger280 Yes, I read about that years ago in a Detroit Diesel advertisement. This DD 12V149 looks and sounds like an incredibly reliable engine, but were not the greatest on emissions, in all respect to the engine's durability.
The throttle response is instantaneous, they really crack no matter what model it is.
Ya gotta love a two stroke. I wish they made a small v12 car motor, that would be some badass shit. Ever seen a Mercedes EM707 ? Raps like a bike motor.
No load any motor reacts pretty quick
@@RJ1999x true that !
You ever run a locomotive powered by an EMD motor (detroits big brother) even the smallest 16- 567s take about 45 seconds to hit top rpm, of 875 lol
@@TheBeeMan1994 1938 until 1966 . It has a bore of 8+1⁄2 in (216 mm), a stroke of 10 in (254 mm) and a displacement of
567 cu in (9.29 L) per cylinder
😉 ... imagine that
We used these on a Westburne drilling rig back in the 70's in Alberta. Had 3 of them you brought on line in stages, the deeper you drilled. Late at night, running wide open, drilling slowly, middle of winter, I used snuggle down next to one for a warm nap.
used to work on a couple of ships that had 12V-149s as emergency diesel generators. they were mounted high up, a deck below the bridge - the idea being that you could still have power even with severe flooding of the engine room. when the engineers did EDG load tests you could hear that thing running anywhere in the house. great sounding engines, but if that's your only source of power aboard those ships, you're already in trouble.
We gonna need a bigger boat
ohhh yesh
The battery cables to the starter pulled so many amps that they pulled away from each other due to Lorentz forces.
Sharp eye! I didn't notice.
Most beautiful sounding diesel ever
Imagine somehow swapping that or an 8v-149 into a truck, I think it would be pretty cool and I also love the mean sound this engine has.
It's a pity those motorcycle air filters are strangling the turbo suction noise
Seeing as its a college, possibly for run away safety
I just put a rear main seal in one of these on our 780 kw Kohler generator at work. They are monsters!
3 foot diameter seals, I bet those cost a nice penny.
vector6977 Actually, the rear main seal diameter is about 6 inches! It costs right at 75 bucks.
Fuck yeahhhh
I work on standby gensets and we have whole bunch of 149's. One install has seven in a row, parallel 4160v.
When we pushed into Iraq from Kuwait we used an army personal carrier, mortar track, there were 2 Detroit diesels powering it, thing was bad ass... I was in the 50 cal turut and the straight pipe for the exhaust was right by my head, I think it hurt my hearing as much as the 50 cal rounds and mortar rounds....
I’ve seen those smoke stacks before they’re on every 17 year old’s 2nd gen
Also on most Tonka toys.
good old days with straight stacks use too run 12 of them on frac job could hear them from over 1/2 mile away
and feel them in deep down in your chest
Ever have any of them blow up? Surely if they blow up when at fully speed, the carnage is very real! XD
They had quite the bellow when fully loaded.
They will run wide open for 100,000s of hours.
man WUTTA beeutee!!! SCREAMIN DEMON AT ITS BEST RITE HERE BOYS!!
Said by a man named "CAT POWER OR BUST!".
^A+++++ advertisement for D.D. engines right there
@Rick Delair I take it you never had to drive many Detroits. When the 2strokers were operating right they're great but most companies never tuned them. Being a lil older now I'll take a Cat any day.
I'm also going to say that was the sweet arresting sound of a Detroit Diesel... I was taken back to my childhood era when my ears were always listening to the 6V53 on the Timberjack 550 skidders and the 6-71 in the Champion motor grader. What else can compete to Classic Detroit Diesel? Uncompromised power and off course that baritone sound.
3-53 in a 230 Timberjack & 6-71 in a 740 Champion.
I also ran a 740 Champion with a 671 it was the first year of the 700 series had oversized injectors it would do anything our newer grader could that had an L10 Cummins and at the end of the day used the same amount of fuel ,sure had a distinct sound
Listened to one of these on a frac truck today for two hours! What did you say? lol
Don’t get any more Merica than that.
sweet music almost rivals Dolly Parton
Got Dolly Parton Lungs😜
Nothing compares to a Detroit. It’s in a league all to itself.
I wet my pants a little when he cracked the throttle.
The throttle response and the roar is awesome
As long as you keep oil in them they'll run forever
Sweet, cleaner than a v dub :)
Someone should build a Unlimited class tractor pull machine with that engine and call it either "Screamin' Jimmy" or "Buzzin' Dozen".
It's not a 12 cylinder so it Would not be a buzz in dozen
It's not a 12-71
@@jdlawless_fuel1416 It is a 12 cylinder engine. 12V149 means 12 cylinders in V configuration with 149 cubic inches per cylinder.
I wonder how I could stuff this into my RV...
Hope you have an A Class RV, going to have to make major mods to the dog house, I've got a 37' class A, this would be a fun idea, mine is sitting right now without a engine in it... LOL I was thinking just a Cummins 5.9.....
That SOUND!!!!! at 1:15ish when he opened it up!!!!!
Gotta love the sound of a Detroit running wide open!
I don't care what anyone says a two stroke engine is best for a generator because it can respond to load variations quicker.
I've only seen this model engine in mine haul trucks, and it loves fuel.
Damn the sound of that monster when they bump the throttle
This sounds similar to a engine mod on American truck simulator posed as a v20 Detroit diesel
I like how they even gave the old girl custom exhaust pipes
beautiful giants they are.
Love the sound of the 149's ,no pussy whimp sounds ,just raw power.
Love the WHOOSH when it revs! I wonder what kind of truck you could cram this into...would be pretty cool in a deuce and a half or something.
to my knowledge - there was never a transmission designed to these guys. I'm not sure, the appointments from the 12v71 MIGHT work, but I don't know for sure.
100 ton mining trucks had these, Euclid and unit Rig both used them, probably others as well.
We had 6 speed Allison automatics with hydraulic retarders behind them.
CLBT6061 Allisons unless my memory is wrong.
See - learn something new every day
I share that dream of owning a Deuce with a Detroit screaming upfront, but this thing would only fit in the bed of Deuce because it weights like 9,000lbs! The most practical Detroit Diesel option for a Deuce would be the 4-71T. It weights about 200lbs more than an LDS465 but makes more power and torque and you get that wonderful sound!
I've got a deuce with an 8V-71 in it ,, bastard will pull a mountain ,,I own several retired military vehicles and all are powered by 2 stroke detroits ,my 1st gen HEMTT has an 8V92TA ,i managed to get that one at a surplus auction before the government decided not to resell them and instead upgrade them ,,I love the sound of the detroit diesel ,,, so much so that i started collecting them in 1996 ,,I have since collected over 200 engines in various states of repair ,, at least half of them will run or have since i got them ,,I've got everything from a 2-71 to a 16V92 ,and also a matched pair of marine 12V-92s which both run and have just 400 hours on them yacht they were in burned at a marina i worked at and i got the salvage contract
Detroit Diesel The sound of victory. USA1 GM1
sexy polluting machine 👍😋
Thats a shit load of engine !
This is the beautiful extraordinary roar of the king of the concrete jungle, it roars like a wonderful symphony for the ears. the great dd-12 simply wonderful
Someone will have to clean that light fixture.
I wonder if I can fit this in my Kia Optima!
That’s the sound of power ! Nothing like a Detroit running wide open ! Thanks for the video. American Iron all the way!
An early form of EGR in play there.
Potencia total bazuka Foz do Iguaçu pr Brasil 🇧🇷🇧🇷
Best Sound Ever !😂
Puffff,a reaaly beast!!When it warmed pure power. 2 strokes as locomotive engines??? sounds like has 2 strokes. i dint know if it have the roots,but 4 turbos is enough,the roots work well in lows to sweep the exhausts .
Some of the fleet of the Victorian Railways (Australia) W class loco ran the non-turbo version of these 149 series engines.
This needs to be in a Gillig Phantom!
The quickest way to score cylinder walls is to red line or load the engine before it is warmed up. Hint: idling for 1 minute does not warm it up. Diesels are more susceptible to this because the pistons heat faster than the cylinder walls and so expand quicker.
It wasn't redlined, and most likely this wasn't a cold start by how quickly it turned on.
Sjhhhhhhhh
nonsense
@@philipcharles9342 I know what I am talking about with many years of experience. Sad to see you expend all of your knowledge in one word and even that was incorrect.
@@Hogger280 nothing will happen to that engine it was meant to run hard and not babied. Oil pressure is up in the heads and cylinders in less then one second. Maybe stick to gasoline engines don’t mistake the two. Two different beast. These engines last 300k hours with no wear so not sure where you get your info from but it’s not accurate.
Put that in your Prius!!
4 turbos, and 2(or more) blowers. Beastly!
And still no torque.
3000ft lbs of torque
@@toddgittins5692naysayer
That would look great on a Prius.
After pancaking it lol
you mean a prius would look good on the engine?
WoW, I needed That!! A type of soothing music!
It's scary to think about the reciprocating mass of those 149cu inch sized pistons going up and down and combined with double the firing per rotation when that gets revved up.
For its displacement that Detroit Diesel 12V149 is a big, heavy and solid engine. This is compared to a Cummins VTA28 diesel of 1,710 CID, this DD has a 1,788 CID. If I'm correct, the DD 12V149 is a little over 40% heavier than the Cummins VTA28. That is amazing.
The biggest Mack tractor ever made the Mack model M100SX, formerly owned by Hallamore Corp., uses this engine. It was bought privately this past year and will be restored.
My god.... That sounds incredible
The throttle response depends on the mass of the flywheel. No flywheel attached high response but uneven idle. In case of a 2-stroke V12, the idle is balanced by the small ingnition angle. An inline 3 cylinder wouldn't even run without a flywheel.
When I was in my heavy duty mechanics pre apprenticeship at the local college, there was a guy who put a Detroit diesel v-6 53 in a pickup. You could hear it across half the town
Segun video un gran motor que no le están dando alguna aplicación, una bomba de agua,un generador eléctrico ect ..
SAD that GM dind make a 6, and 8v149 for trucks
Oh how I love that sound!!!
That sound reminds me of the two 16V149's on my old sea scout ship. One of my favorite things about being in that program was hearing those engines fire up.
I was born in 71 i grew up hearing old Detroits running up down the roads from greyhound busses to old KW i love the sound of them wish they were still around like back in the day
The clean air people are not going to like this.
The air filters belong on a crx.
In will you have M men start me
They do not make them like they used to
Heck I would love a beast this happy hooked to a big arsed auto in a motor home. Last time I heard an auto GM was 30 years ago sadly
How much do 1 of these usually go for second hand?
Chevy Donovan no idea, this was donated to the school.
$11000 or W/830KW generator $21000
And to think, that's only about 2500-2800 rpm.
try 1800 rpm
K.C.LeJeune...... The Series 149 engines were Never set that high, not even in Marine applications..... most often they were set between 1600 and 2100 depending on application, although there were a few custom setups that ran up to 2350, but they were very rare.
My mistake guys.
@@Romans--bo7br Yup. We had guys over rev them in haul trucks and break the rocker arms. Hard to say how high they revved when they did that but I'd guess about 2500.
no buzzin for this dozen
Now if they just had a 300ci one for my F250
Is 312ci close enough? th-cam.com/video/vQXZSgDN9uA/w-d-xo.html
I'd like to shoe horn one of those in an old GMC Astro cab over
Justin Myslive How about a GMC General/Chevrolet Bison?
Justin.... you would have to do a LOT More than just "shoe horn" it into an Astro, or ANY brand of highway sized truck.
10,000 lbs.
Wouldn't fit between the frame rails and way too heavy.
@@Romans--bo7br not easy to do BUT not impossible . The best candidate to try it with would be a twin steer day cab CAB OVER truck & put the engine BEHIND the cab hooked to a Allison transmission with tandem rear axles and reinforced frame . Having lots of money would also be a big help 😂 .
Two-Stroke PoWeR
throw it in a miata
is this a genset
Yes please
YES
Put this in a tank like the American Abrams instead of the gas turbine.
Yeah the lag from the turbine engines is a joke, the one in the ruskies current big tank seems to be a better notion....
I think they're considering putting something like an MTU MB 873 in the next version.
That would've nice too start with! You'ed think?
Lol!!!
Yeah. The enemy would running like hell just from the noise of that screaming Jimmie. But then they'd hear you coming about ten miles away.
3X the size and 4X the weight of the Turbine.
Power out ass works cat ass off.
Look at those blowers, thing screams
I want this motor in an old Semi Truck !!! 🔥😛🔥😛🔥😛
Mount it over the twin screws and use a twin disc 180 deg drop box to power them.
Nice video. That's actually a 12V149TT (turbo aspiration)
Incorrect. TT does not mean twin turbo or turbo aspiration in Detroit Diesel nomenclature.
T designates turbo
TI designates turbo intercooled
TA designates turbo aftercooled
TT designates tailored torque (increased fuel economy and/or constant horsepower output applications)
TTA is tailored torque aftercooled.
I do not know which specific engine designation is shown in this video.
149 series designations are -
NA - naturally aspirated
T - turbo
TI - turbo intercooler
TIB - turbo intercooler bypass
This 149 appears to be TIB
That is all.
TAFE never had one of these LOL
Nos dominamos o fogo!
Those K&N filters are givin it 3 or 400 more horse easy
LOL
Can we get that in my pete
#whistlindiesel
4-Турбины???
Да. N 2 нагнетатель.
Need to put that I a vega
badass!
1 2 3 4 turbos get that horsepower
Waa is terrible sound i like sound scania
Good for you! Personally I wouldn't touch a scania
What tiny air filters, my truck uses a bigger one.....
Patrick Baptist...... these air filters are only used on this engine because it's in a "Trade School " shop and is only used for demonstration purposes. I can assure you that the actual filters used in any "real world" Series 149 application are considerably larger than those used in your truck.
The air cleaner would be about the size of his truck
@Mr Sunshines I am sure if you look around you can easily find other intelligent comments from him.
not sure that this can be modified to fit in an offshore Trawler..
Yes these engines were often marinised with water cooled manifolds, jacket water heat exchangers and fitted to fishing and work boats
Did they ever make Jake breaks for the 149 series Detroit Diesel
Roman Vasquez no idea
Roman Vasquez..... No sir, they did Not... because the Series 149's were only used in large industrial and Marine applications, and therefore there was no need for Jakes.
2Stroke Diesel Power Thank you you're the 1st one to Answer my question thank you for them for Info
Roman Vasquez.... You're very welcome. : )
yea, they did have Jake brakes. I ran a 100 ton end dump in a coal mine that had this engine and it had them.
Did the Letourneau L1200 use these motors?
Vanderlei Lopes...... Unfortunately, No. The L1200 was After the R.G. Letourneau years and everything was pretty well Cummins powered.
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Sounds good !!
Mufflers please!! veru huge of course