The chat character development on dunkey is funny. Chat always went full meltdown when Felix started to react to Dunkey and now chat is super chill when he reacts to Dunkey.
when dunkey started talking about the old games maintaining the same price, I was like, cod games on steam are also like this, then, xqc was thinking the exact same thing, I'm satisfied.
Even though we can buy a game digitally in seconds, there was something special about wandering the shelves at Blockbuster. It was better than a trip to the candy store.
This is the same thing with Lego's, those things are way too expensive now, a small ass set will set you back an easy $70. I used to get bigger sets with 4 Minifigs for $25
@@omegacxv8344 what packs are you talking about. If you can't afford a 20 dollar game that's your problem you can always go to g2a or torrent it. Literally a crybaby with non existential problems
An often overlooked angle is the era of everything going digital. Most of the highest played games right now have no physical copies even available, so the costs you save on manufacturing and distribution is insane.
It's only really theft if you download proprietary data from non approved sources. So like downloading game files from EmuParadise or console bios/firmware files anywhere but from official CDN. However, if you rip your own games (pretty easy for most systems these days) and a clean room reverse engineered emulator (which most emulators these days are), then you should™ be fine based on all legal precedent. However, you can bet your bottom dollar that companies like Nintendo are still gonna fight tooth and nail to try and get it all outlawed.
@@thebasedone2182 I know. Iwas just using them as an example because I haven't downloaded roms in ages and don't know the modern equivalents. That said, they only truly got rid of Nintendo first party titles iirc. You can get a script that lets you download the roms that are still there, but the download links are just hidden.
its not theft if you cannot at all purchase them from the original publisher. If you cant buy it from the original publisher its called abandonware which is completely legal to download for free and emulate.
Yupppp Go look at how much earthbound is selling for on ebay It's not even on the SNES online Or the persona games 1-4 go for like $100 each in retail stores and even more on ebay
They don’t give a fuck lmao, they’ll snort a line off a CoD Ghosts disc and then go sexually assault a coworker. Life’s on easy mode for those schmucks
@@mrbounceoffwithdat4420 check steam to see what I’m talking about. Call of Duty: Black Ops is currently $40 on steam. It never goes on sale even though it’s an old ass game, they just wanna rip more money out of nostalgia fan’s wallets. The DLC for that game (First strike, ascension, etc) is priced at $15 EACH. Buying all 4 of the DLC is LITERALLY more expensive than the game itself. If you wanted the full experience on an old game, you have to pay $100 USD
@@mrbounceoffwithdat4420 any of the cod games are old, the last one on there was like bo3 or iw which are both old as shit Bo3 was 2015 buddy, you're getting old
I stumble across these every so often and it's nuts... I used to play with Jason (Dunkey) back in early league. Then we all became adults and moved on to bigger things.
He also makes biased reviews and intentionally leaves out facts in order to push his narrative as to why he doesn't like something. One example is how he went on about losing your shit in Death Stranding because of deep water, and rough terrain when you literally press R2 to scan the terrain at any time to know what will make you fall/lose your shit. He's been caught doing this shit multiple times and can't take even an ounce of criticism. Feed him a Nintendo game, though, and he'll excuse any bullshit in it. I love dunkey for his funny videos, but as a critic he's too biased and opinionated to warrant respect in that field.
@@KC-bg1th a review can not be unbiased. Wtf are you on. And maybe he didn’t know about some features, who cares, if he didn’t know about it, or viewed it as unintuitive. That’s on him, doesn’t change how he feels about the game.
Doubt, if you donate $50 and up about the game you recommended. You'll get either 50/50 he will play the game or he'll just forget it soon enough because he still have those games to grind.
uhm are you sure about this? nowadays games are so complicated you need a team of 100 developers and 10 million dollars to create something decent. Back then a programmer with a buddy could make a NES game
@@hi_im_dran back then you had to code in assembly, not some load a fancy premade engine. and game development required full knowledge of the console you're working on. not to mention the constant need to work around hardware limitations.
@@hi_im_dran listen here bud i could launch unity right freaking now and dump some premade assists and call it a game, not saying all games are made this way it's just we have it easier now.
@@hi_im_dran The fact remains it's easier to get started making games nowadays, but definitely back in the day the learning curve was much much steeper. I've made 400-800 line projects in a RISC-V assembly language for school and it could only do very simple things like make a hollow square move around on a bitmap with dynamically rotating colors. This took a week. Making a game in assembly though? That's really hard, and would take a long time to even make something of that level and be memory efficient like back in the day. Making games at an indie level is a cakewalk compared to that. I've made a 2d platformer with tracking cameras, animations, etc in a week that look nice and have servable mechanics. This is without any experience with unity, but a decent amount of experience programming. I understand your point about Triple A games, however, most games being released nowadays are indie games that use some sort of free game engine like unity or Unreal. The barrier to entry is lower than it has ever been.
joe from twitter is going to be very mad that i emulated his favorite game thats older than him instead of buying the console and the game second hand for total 700 dollars
@@LarryLovestein23 Hydro Thunder was a great game as well. But I feel like in Wave Race 64, you just had so much more control of where you wanted to go and the game was more fluid.
When they tried to up the prices with the next-gen consoles due to me being in Australia I probably would've never bought another game.. would've costed $120 just for a standard cod.. thank god not all next-gen releases went with that price
$50-60 adjusted for inflation is more like $180 now. Sooooo that's why they have the microtransactions and DLC. If you can buy the game AND all the DLC for less than $180, consider it a steal
I love when someone gets all mad about emulating a game I don't think Nintendo is still making revenue on sales of Pokemon: Firered anymore so emulation isn't touching their bottom line
I never owned it but I *LOVED* playing Far Cry 4 at my friend's house, one of my favorite games ever. You could follow campaign but there were glitches and bugs and you could do HILARIOUS things. I miss those days....
Seeing BO3 and all its DLC made me feel called out because I actually re bought everything a year ago on steam because I wanted to experience the game again. I played for a week and have never touched it since lmao
The best part about Black Ops 3 Season Pass is that it was designed to include every DLC, and then they release Zombie Chronicles as a separate $60 DLC
They spend more money than you'd think on development. Mocap, sound studios, etc. are VERY costly as well as more and more A list stars. The problem is they try to hurry games out because due to games being the same price as the 80's and 90's and inflation being 5-6% a year, games cost more than ever to make and profits are lower than ever. So companies resort to pushing best-selling games out more often than they should, with less time between each in order to squeeze as much profit out as possible. That's also why microtransactions. If games cost more like $150 - $180 to buy which would be a reasonable price after inflation, there'd prolly be way less scummy practice.
the deluxe edition is for people that genuinely wanna support a game, the stuff on top is just the devs appreciation. they tell you what it gives you, so theres literally no point in complaining when the items dont affect any in game progress (for online games) or minimally affect the game (for solo games).
My dad hacked his original Xbox so he could download games onto a hard drive that was connected to the Xbox. We would go to blockbuster and rent a ton of games come back the next day after downloading all the games and return them saying they weren't good get our money back and play those games forever. It was amazing. I miss those days
@@bareq99 because the VAST majority of emulation is done because the user does not own the console/game. You're making a defense based on a tiny group that does not represent the main reason people emulate.
They have no reason to make old games cheaper cus it'll probably affect sales of new games and people will still buy remastered versions at full price.
It's the fanbase what keeping that price up, especially in Baldurs gate or rts type of games, sometimes they raised the price accounting for like something on the line "collection games" lol.
At 11:30 I know what xQc is talking about. I remember, as a kid, getting cartridges that had 30-1 DS games. And the games were name brand. Maybe that idea will make a comeback in later years
That is the one problem with digital games is that you cant sell them, so they arent really a physical commodity. I think it makes sense to give people the option to sell their games digitally for half the value the game is sold for on the store now.
@@tomsnow2872 Not really true. You get the software. You get the utility of playing it. But there is no reason a store would want to buy back your games at half price. That's just halving their revenue.
Puased at 8:31... Battlefield Heroes was free to play, my first shooter, and will always be happy memories. It did have rampant microtransactions even before COD learned how to do it.
But the thing is, it only costs 60 in the States. Up here in Canada games easily retail for close to 100. It's mostly a waiting game for prices to drop.
0:35 I'm lower middle class and I'd be happy to pay MORE MONEY for all that shit. Sick and tired of AAA companies shitting out garbage and expecting us to all buy it. I don't buy the game and everyone is like "WTF YOU DIDN"T BUY IT?!?!" and then 2 years later "WTF THAT GAME WAS SHIT!"
My dad used to rent block buster games and burn the cds. He even had a label printer and would but the CD label on the disks and would give them to us for christmas. This was for the PS1.
Some people i know barely afford playstation..but they can't afford to play games they want.. especially the new ones.. I've seen a lot of people waiting for 70% discount just to play new games..
@@DiegoGarcia-nv1ou ohhh yeah.. that is true.. and i think for the playstation I don't know for sure but some games that will come out won't be supported by ps4 right ?
What I hated about BO3 was that even when you got the season pass (which said it includes all DLC), once zombie chronicles came out it just seemed to forget that and made you pay the 15 bucks for some zombies maps. so like you had to pay the games original $60 price again to get all the dlc. ridiculous
The problem now is the companies that are pushing to increase the base price of a video game are also the ones with some of the most predatory monetization schemes in the industry. They will increase the price, charge $40 for a dlc with 2 hours of gameplay, and keep microtransactions.
Because games that were $50-60 in the 90's adjusted for inflation would be like $180 today. Since they haven't increased the base price of games, they HAVE to resort to other tactics to make the same profit.
@@Spladoinkal That would be true if the player base stayed the same. Millions more are playing games now than in the 90s. On top of that games are more accessible now than they were then. We're talking about companies with execs that are getting paid tens of millions a year. It's greed on behalf of the shareholders and the execs. I could handle a price increase if that money went directly to the game devs, but it won't. The game industry is the most profitable media industry for a reason.
Mr Cows take on the cost of old cod games at 5:58 is very correct, i really want to go and play old cod black ops 2 zombies on my PC but am i fuck forking up 50 quid for that shit
It’s funny how little that person saying “don’t talk about emulating” actually knows. You can talk all you want about emulating, you can literally emulate on stream and nothing will happen. You can link Emulators and NOTHING WILL HAPPEN, what you CANT do is link the ROM. That’s were you can get in trouble. But your chance of even getting in trouble is pretty slim. I just go by the rule of not emulating something I can just buy simply. That’s it.
idk why people mald about skin prices in valorant, if you cant afford it simply dont buy it not the end of the world i just bait and body block my teammates for one EZ
4:14 Okay to be fair if you're familiar with Larian studios you already know that when the game fully drops it's gonna be a masterpiece, you're paying that $60 bucks to play through the early stages of the game and see how it progresses development wise. I bought it when it first dropped and I still got 70 hours worth of gameplay out of it, it's a fantastic game.
@@obi-wancanblowme5968 What he said is true in the EU, don't know if it's legal in the US though. The logic goes that you bought the license, moving it to your pc isn't illegal.
@@obi-wancanblowme5968 Google it lol. Why would emulating hardware and software that you own be illegal? Nothing is being copied without being paid for.
realistically games cost way more, every COD costs around 150$ with the season pass. You get less content now than ever since theres a new title in the series like 8 months later... They're also filled with Micro-transactions, in some cases they are cosmetics but they still generate more revenue than games back in the day.... Publishers are making a shit ton of money, doesn't matter if the costs are higher they're making MORE money... Fuck em.
That is just not true. Most games are just fine if you only buy the base game and don't buy anything else. Yes there are a few exceptions but that is definitely not the rule. You are in no way forced to buy skins or other microtransactions.
@@dayko. GTA 5 has pay to win mechanics . COD puts map packs in the season passes and basically locks you out of lobbies. WoW has a sub,micro transactions,pay-to-win and box price. MOST games with season passes lock you out of multiplayer ! Single player is dying in the FPS genre so when you get locked out of MP you're basically forced to pay for a season pass. If its a Free-to-play game with a season pass and micro-transactions that don't affect player power its totally fine but theres like 3 of those...
@@DemoNXCros GTA Online is not a competetive game. Yes you can get money in game with actual money but that will not really give you much except cars and planes or a tank. Not really pay to win imo. Just pay to not play the game and get cars etc faster. Which COD games locks you out of lobbies if you don't have the season pass? If that is a real thing that is definitely scummy and I agree with you there. And WoW has always been a subscription based game. Didnt know there were microtransactions in WoW aswell but if they are pay to win that is scummy. Except GTA the games you listed also just arent games I play. What games except COD and WoW can you think of that "force" you to buy the microtransactions? I am pretty sure for 95%+ of games it is optional and mostly just cosmetics.
@@dayko. Real money gets you Over powered over priced flying bikes that grief entire lobbies...I actually have all the businesses and i still cant manage to make money in a decent rate , even with heists some of the new stuff is so overpriced that unless you mod or buy microtransactions you're always behind. Last game that locked you out was BO4 , haven't played any of the newer titles so I can't personally make claims. I've played WoW for 15 years and this shit has gotten to a point where you can buy absolutely everything with real money...even competitive progression/titles/gear/rating/achivements. quick google search = you still need battle pass to play new maps, that basically limits the lobbies you can join ...and most people will play the newer maps and also they are in the overall map pool so you can get kicked out of a lobby because you dont have a map. I'll just list some pay-to-win titles I've played. Warframe,Neverwinter,Starwars Battlefront 2,Payday 2,Dungeon Keeper,Archeage, most car games, EVERY FIFA,UFC,NBA and most other sports games... And there are like 100 more that i've never played
Don't listen to him Ya'll do us a favor by adding nice art to look at (tho having them physically is better imo.. I know it is more expensive but it's so much better)
My biggest problem with game price is that the price is the same in all countries, For example in my country average salary is 500$ but many people even work for less than that, so you bet i won t pay fcking 60$ for that game, i go full pirate
F2P, man. I saw this and I remember PSO:NGS yesterday, they ask 100$ on sonic skin, the game is barely have enough content, and if you miss it. You will never get that skin in maybe 1 year until the next event. Yeah it's sonic, if it's something like naruto, one piece, or demon slayer, overlord or any popular stuff, people gonna end up bankrupt fast. So you have to keep constantly grind for ingame money, cuz if you miss it, and you don't have ingame money, good luck finding that items on market.
Honestly? That's a very good price for how expensive the gamecube is now I am trying to get a CIB copy of Zelda Twilight Princess (GC version) and it's usually 200$ used
@@Unreasonablenet onl NINTENDO games And I really don't get why it is always just them You'd think if they put their games on current hardware the games would go down in price So they did that back in the wii days via the virtual console The NES games tripled in price 2 months after the Virtual console released..
AAA games released in Canada, after taxes, are usually around $85-$87 CDN. Fucking insane. It is not even remotely a good idea to sell them for so much. I, and millions of people like me, would be more likely to purchase consoles and new games on both consoles and PC, if those games were cheaper.
In the EU, emulation is completely legal and ok as long as the product you're emulating is no longer being sold or supported by it's original developer/publisher
There is an economic term for what I'm about to explain but, I don't know what it is, basically if you are a big company, and you make really good games that cost 8 bucks (per buy) to make and you sell it for 10 bucks that is 2 profit per buy, but because you have a large fan base and advertising power, you can sell SO MUCH copies and make a lot of money BUT a small gaming company, making very simple games(because they don't have the funds), cannot make a significant profit by selling for a 2 bucks/buy profit, as you do not have that much reach, so you are going to have to sell for 15 bucks or more, to get something at least. apart from this charging a fuck ton of money for an old game is absolute robbery, and "free to play" games have to sell skins to keep their games running, as long as it does not give you an advantage it is acceptable. (sorry about my trash explanation)
Except it costs nothing but time, and the cost per unit is nil. This only applies to actual commodities, not digital ones. Free to play games only have server and employee costs; which is also basically nothing. Take riot games for example; they can sell a single skin for 20$, and if they sell that single image to even a tenth of their playerbase, they have just made more money than their game would cost to run for 100 years. Meanwhile it probably took maybe 20 people a few afternoons to make. It's amazing how easily they can manipulate their customers into paying over 1000$ for a free game, and that's somehow more acceptable than interfering with the gameplay. You also have the economics of that backwards; it costs a large developer much more to make a game, and the reach is subjective; they have to pay for that advertising, which people might respond poorly to. AAA titles flop all the time, and indie games tend to have much higher returns due to the lack of cost to make; since if even 1000 people buy your game you're making a decent return for the effort, where a big group of developers would have to split it. An indie dev isn't going to lose 10 mill if their game doesn't sell, they just lost whatever free time they spent. The only benefit these large corps have over indie developers is asset value; which is completely worthless in tech when talking about creating something new, and that's why we end up with the same physics engines running tons of reskinned games for 80$, while a completely hand-made indie game can go for 1$ - 25$ usually. I completely agree that selling old games at a mark-up is literally monopolization.
Its so much more expensive for gaming. Console/PC cost, online cost, dlc cost, accessories cost, games cost - deluxe editions, online gambling (loot boxes etc.). Some of these force you to buy them to be competitive. Internet bills... Its a rich man's luxury now. One of the reasons I stopped gaming.
Its really not, ive been gaming since i was 4, im almost 17 now and i doubt i spent 200$ dollars in all that time, mostly because i cant purchase stuff online and i cant find physical places close to me, but if you think you NEED to buy dlcs, accessories, deluxe editions and loot boxes, thats on you my man
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The chat character development on dunkey is funny. Chat always went full meltdown when Felix started to react to Dunkey and now chat is super chill when he reacts to Dunkey.
Good
Why did they even hate dunkey in the first place lol
They were literally spamming Pepepains at the start though.
@@arsonisthotdog5914 no it used to be the WHOLE chat
@@cybr69lol To be fair, he initially sounds pretty cringey if you've never listened to him before. But you warm up very quickly.
when dunkey started talking about the old games maintaining the same price, I was like, cod games on steam are also like this, then, xqc was thinking the exact same thing, I'm satisfied.
Fucking BO2 is still 60 last time I checked.
@@sentientbeing8738 i thought everyone moved to plutonium V2 for bo2 and mw2?
@@georgewako9031 For the most part they did. You can still buy the game though you know. I dont get why you even put that comment.
@@sentientbeing8738 I put it there as a question and i was asking why get bo2 if you can get it for free + another game?
It’s the same on Xbox/PlayStation black ops/ MW is still full price
XQC on how he accidentally ran Blockbusters out of business.
it was no accident. Goblino planned his attack and covered it up
@@legowhite2 we haven't seen his final form yet 😰
xqcriminal
@@jytvreal XQCOW stands for xqc ontherunfromthela w
Amazon and Citadel ran blockbuster out of business via short selling
Even though we can buy a game digitally in seconds, there was something special about wandering the shelves at Blockbuster. It was better than a trip to the candy store.
like waiting outside a store for the midnight cod release FeelsStrongMan
@@codeporsche4651 Haha yes, and GTA...when they actually produced new GTAs.
@Nika Damn, I didn't know 34 was a boomer now :(
Going in a GameStop at this point even feels special when compared to downloaded games
@@NickNotas its been publicly accepted that the boomer meme applies to anyone over 30 lol
This is the same thing with Lego's, those things are way too expensive now, a small ass set will set you back an easy $70. I used to get bigger sets with 4 Minifigs for $25
It's inflation lol. 25 bucks back then are not 25 bucks now. But yeah, that shit is still expensive not gonna lie
and its not even the cost of production or marketing lol , literally the whole world knew about them. They just pumping the price up because they can
Hundred dollars for plastic that you will never interact with ever again after building it.
that the old cods are still this expensive on steam is literally so dumb
That's so retarded, wanted to get the DLC's for MW3 only to play the spec ops missions and get the achievements. Nah bruh 50 bucks for that shit...
Literally a lie. Just looked them up they are 20 bucks.
@@mrbounceoffwithdat4420 14€ per pack, 4 packs, now add them together, how much is it?
@@omegacxv8344 what packs are you talking about. If you can't afford a 20 dollar game that's your problem you can always go to g2a or torrent it. Literally a crybaby with non existential problems
@@mrbounceoffwithdat4420 dlc packs
An often overlooked angle is the era of everything going digital. Most of the highest played games right now have no physical copies even available, so the costs you save on manufacturing and distribution is insane.
chat saying theft when he mentioned emulation, bruh you can't even buy those games from the developer, it's from a random person on the internet
It's only really theft if you download proprietary data from non approved sources. So like downloading game files from EmuParadise or console bios/firmware files anywhere but from official CDN. However, if you rip your own games (pretty easy for most systems these days) and a clean room reverse engineered emulator (which most emulators these days are), then you should™ be fine based on all legal precedent. However, you can bet your bottom dollar that companies like Nintendo are still gonna fight tooth and nail to try and get it all outlawed.
@@wompastompa3692 EmuParadise got wacked by Nintendo years ago. Lost a ton of games in there.
@@thebasedone2182
I know. Iwas just using them as an example because I haven't downloaded roms in ages and don't know the modern equivalents. That said, they only truly got rid of Nintendo first party titles iirc. You can get a script that lets you download the roms that are still there, but the download links are just hidden.
its not theft if you cannot at all purchase them from the original publisher. If you cant buy it from the original publisher its called abandonware which is completely legal to download for free and emulate.
Yupppp
Go look at how much earthbound is selling for on ebay
It's not even on the SNES online
Or the persona games
1-4 go for like $100 each in retail stores and even more on ebay
Whenever I showed my dad he could play the old Mario games on the switch his face lit up
Same, with the old donkey Kong arcade game
Oh, he keeps forgetting? Alzheimer's Sadge bro
@@fitch9782 No lol the NES and mario bros was the only console/game he ever played.
@@fitch9782 he forgor💀
That's cute
Someone had to call COD out for thier pricing of older games
They don’t give a fuck lmao, they’ll snort a line off a CoD Ghosts disc and then go sexually assault a coworker. Life’s on easy mode for those schmucks
they all cost like 20 bucks what are you talking about.
@@mrbounceoffwithdat4420 check steam to see what I’m talking about.
Call of Duty: Black Ops is currently $40 on steam. It never goes on sale even though it’s an old ass game, they just wanna rip more money out of nostalgia fan’s wallets.
The DLC for that game (First strike, ascension, etc) is priced at $15 EACH. Buying all 4 of the DLC is LITERALLY more expensive than the game itself. If you wanted the full experience on an old game, you have to pay $100 USD
@@bonkgameing we have different definitions of old COD games. I'm talking about MW and COD 2 and 3.
@@mrbounceoffwithdat4420 any of the cod games are old, the last one on there was like bo3 or iw which are both old as shit
Bo3 was 2015 buddy, you're getting old
This is the type of a video that I like to watch with xQc.
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I love how more and more streamers have watched dunkey’s stuff. He’s like a universally loved creator who mostly does his own thing
I stumble across these every so often and it's nuts... I used to play with Jason (Dunkey) back in early league. Then we all became adults and moved on to bigger things.
He also makes biased reviews and intentionally leaves out facts in order to push his narrative as to why he doesn't like something. One example is how he went on about losing your shit in Death Stranding because of deep water, and rough terrain when you literally press R2 to scan the terrain at any time to know what will make you fall/lose your shit.
He's been caught doing this shit multiple times and can't take even an ounce of criticism.
Feed him a Nintendo game, though, and he'll excuse any bullshit in it.
I love dunkey for his funny videos, but as a critic he's too biased and opinionated to warrant respect in that field.
@@SamWhiskin PogU not a child
@@KC-bg1th “He is caught doing it” :DDDD, Go watch his video about reviewers, nobody watches dunkey for sake of Non-oppiniated reviews
@@KC-bg1th a review can not be unbiased. Wtf are you on. And maybe he didn’t know about some features, who cares, if he didn’t know about it, or viewed it as unintuitive. That’s on him, doesn’t change how he feels about the game.
2:18 Xqc admits to being the sole reason blockbuster went bankrupt
Felix should really play Turok. Cmon now mustard
If felix plays turok i will eat my shorts
That would be so hype
Doubt, if you donate $50 and up about the game you recommended. You'll get either 50/50 he will play the game or he'll just forget it soon enough because he still have those games to grind.
This video is gonna be a *CLAAAASSIC*
good video never watched it classic
@@thehumanholocaust5282 it was alright, classic
Duplicate of this video
@@DiegoGarcia-nv1ou classic
haven’t seen the video
CLAAAASSIC
back then making games used to be difficult, now any one can make a game
uhm are you sure about this? nowadays games are so complicated you need a team of 100 developers and 10 million dollars to create something decent. Back then a programmer with a buddy could make a NES game
@@sten260 100% sure if you know anything about programing you'd know
back then they had to code the game from scratch
@@hi_im_dran back then you had to code in assembly, not some load a fancy premade engine.
and game development required full knowledge of the console you're working on. not to mention the constant need to work around hardware limitations.
@@hi_im_dran listen here bud i could launch unity right freaking now and dump some premade assists and call it a game, not saying all games are made this way it's just we have it easier now.
@@hi_im_dran The fact remains it's easier to get started making games nowadays, but definitely back in the day the learning curve was much much steeper. I've made 400-800 line projects in a RISC-V assembly language for school and it could only do very simple things like make a hollow square move around on a bitmap with dynamically rotating colors. This took a week. Making a game in assembly though? That's really hard, and would take a long time to even make something of that level and be memory efficient like back in the day.
Making games at an indie level is a cakewalk compared to that. I've made a 2d platformer with tracking cameras, animations, etc in a week that look nice and have servable mechanics. This is without any experience with unity, but a decent amount of experience programming.
I understand your point about Triple A games, however, most games being released nowadays are indie games that use some sort of free game engine like unity or Unreal. The barrier to entry is lower than it has ever been.
joe from twitter is going to be very mad that i emulated his favorite game thats older than him instead of buying the console and the game second hand for total 700 dollars
Oh thank god I almost had to watch an Azan video
jesus christ that sounds terrifying
Don't you mean a 'Mr Chair' video?
@@diazinamon2431 Mr.Chair BAYZED TAKE
pain
For real though wjy even watch that guy? Most of the time it's his chair reacting or him eating.
9:44 THIS WAS BY FAR THE BEST WATER RACING GAME OF ITS TIME. SUCH A LEGENDARY GAME.
Joke. Hydro thunder is better
@@LarryLovestein23 Hydro Thunder was a great game as well. But I feel like in Wave Race 64, you just had so much more control of where you wanted to go and the game was more fluid.
God it took me so long to realise "Teft" meant theft
teft
When you live in Australia and $60 for a AAA game is just not physically possible unless it is preowned
right!!! its hard when i'm a pc only player and the games i want on steam are $60+ :, (
yes and on the psn store each new game is atleast $100 :/
Here in canada, the base game has been $79.99 for a couple years now.
60 USD or AUD?
Physical games are 45$ at release in France lol
When they tried to up the prices with the next-gen consoles due to me being in Australia I probably would've never bought another game.. would've costed $120 just for a standard cod.. thank god not all next-gen releases went with that price
I never remember games cost as much as they do now. The reason it's a joke is because you have to buy all the DLC on top of the initial purchase
No it’s because more expensive parts are being used to make better consoles and pc’s, they have to up the price on games to make their profit
@@Coszmoo you need to take into account gaming is way bigger now so they're getting a lot more sales
@@Handonforehead but the games are bigger as well with more graphical features
$50-60 adjusted for inflation is more like $180 now. Sooooo that's why they have the microtransactions and DLC. If you can buy the game AND all the DLC for less than $180, consider it a steal
@@Spladoinkal I would have agreed but they are making record profits every year sooooo..... yeah. 60 bucks it stays.
I love when someone gets all mad about emulating a game
I don't think Nintendo is still making revenue on sales of Pokemon: Firered anymore so emulation isn't touching their bottom line
I never owned it but I *LOVED* playing Far Cry 4 at my friend's house, one of my favorite games ever. You could follow campaign but there were glitches and bugs and you could do HILARIOUS things. I miss those days....
I found my dad's copy of that pirate movie when I was like 13 and home alone. That was a good day.
Games are cheap for how many hours of value they give. You can spend 60 dollars on a night out with a blink of an eye and that doesnt last years
Seeing BO3 and all its DLC made me feel called out because I actually re bought everything a year ago on steam because I wanted to experience the game again. I played for a week and have never touched it since lmao
The best part about Black Ops 3 Season Pass is that it was designed to include every DLC, and then they release Zombie Chronicles as a separate $60 DLC
Valorant prices are the pinnacle of shameless marketing, truly something so dumb that it should be illegal
A big problem is how much they spend on development vs marketing
They spend more money than you'd think on development. Mocap, sound studios, etc. are VERY costly as well as more and more A list stars. The problem is they try to hurry games out because due to games being the same price as the 80's and 90's and inflation being 5-6% a year, games cost more than ever to make and profits are lower than ever. So companies resort to pushing best-selling games out more often than they should, with less time between each in order to squeeze as much profit out as possible. That's also why microtransactions. If games cost more like $150 - $180 to buy which would be a reasonable price after inflation, there'd prolly be way less scummy practice.
@@Spladoinkal I don't think profits are lower than ever when the video game industry is bigger than its ever been
the deluxe edition is for people that genuinely wanna support a game, the stuff on top is just the devs appreciation. they tell you what it gives you, so theres literally no point in complaining when the items dont affect any in game progress (for online games) or minimally affect the game (for solo games).
gotta support those billion dollar companies amirite
i can see that being applied to indie games but that’s not happening with triple a games. most of the money goes towards the execs
My dad hacked his original Xbox so he could download games onto a hard drive that was connected to the Xbox. We would go to blockbuster and rent a ton of games come back the next day after downloading all the games and return them saying they weren't good get our money back and play those games forever. It was amazing. I miss those days
Humble bundle be the only way to do that next except emulating it.
" Make bundles more affordable "
- Félix Lengyel a billionaire
its not about him tho, its about us gamers POGGERS
@@neeldas9043 You are are right, he cares about us. *FeelsStrongMan*
"racism is bad and people suffer" - a white person
doesn't sound very smart, does it?
@@guywithaguitar1827 There's nothing wrong with calling out an issue even if you're not affected by it.
@@guywithaguitar1827 racism can be used towards white people. Do you want proof? your comment
Emulation is literally legal, its acquiring pirated copy's which is illegal
That's something I always dislike! How do they not get the difference??
@@bareq99 because the VAST majority of emulation is done because the user does not own the console/game. You're making a defense based on a tiny group that does not represent the main reason people emulate.
Total biscuit will be proud of this consumer friendly take
They have no reason to make old games cheaper cus it'll probably affect sales of new games and people will still buy remastered versions at full price.
Dark souls *cough*
Xqc single handedly made BlockBuster go out of business! What a chad
i totally agree with the steam cod prices jesus
those prices are just rarted
"Ridge racer doesn't exist." Mate, dunkey, you can come over to my house and play Ridge Racer 3D whenever you want to.
I love how everytime at the beginning people pepepains dunkey and it always morphs into pogs and LULWs
Character development
Chat mentality
i miss when games in Canada were $60 just like in the states regardless of the dollar being weak.
It's the fanbase what keeping that price up, especially in Baldurs gate or rts type of games, sometimes they raised the price accounting for like something on the line "collection games" lol.
At 11:30 I know what xQc is talking about. I remember, as a kid, getting cartridges that had 30-1 DS games. And the games were name brand. Maybe that idea will make a comeback in later years
I’ve only dropped about 20$ on valorant, but bad cosmetics?
Valorant has some of the most intricate and clean skins I’ve ever seen in any game.
Should prolly open your eyes; I havn't seen a game with that many polygons since the original ff7.
@@bahamutzero4903 looks good to me
You've lost your right to an opinion
That is the one problem with digital games is that you cant sell them, so they arent really a physical commodity. I think it makes sense to give people the option to sell their games digitally for half the value the game is sold for on the store now.
That's called pirating.
@@bahamutzero4903 What specifically
That's really dumb. Why would they give you money? They get nothing for it.
@@JayAreAitch you get nothing for buying a game either, nothing physical anyway. It has no market value where as physical games do have market value.
@@tomsnow2872 Not really true. You get the software. You get the utility of playing it. But there is no reason a store would want to buy back your games at half price. That's just halving their revenue.
Puased at 8:31... Battlefield Heroes was free to play, my first shooter, and will always be happy memories. It did have rampant microtransactions even before COD learned how to do it.
It’s very easy to agree with Dunkey on many topics
5:11, *Days later, xQc has purchased lawn mowing simulator*
But the thing is, it only costs 60 in the States. Up here in Canada games easily retail for close to 100. It's mostly a waiting game for prices to drop.
That's called buying power
i was always interested to see the pre-existing save files on used games, erasing them felt wrong
0:35 I'm lower middle class and I'd be happy to pay MORE MONEY for all that shit. Sick and tired of AAA companies shitting out garbage and expecting us to all buy it. I don't buy the game and everyone is like "WTF YOU DIDN"T BUY IT?!?!" and then 2 years later "WTF THAT GAME WAS SHIT!"
5:57 CHAT OMEGALUL
I laughed so hard when he said if you press continue non a block buster game 😂😂🤣🤣
Xqc is so random
😂😂😂😂 so random xqcL
“you wanna see teft? I’ll show you teft”
Piracy isn't theft a multi BILLION dollar company asking me for 1/6 of my MONTHLY salary to play a yearly release is.
me and my homies emulate poggers
Teft
Yep, I emulate links awakening and the game calls me THIEF
It's not theft if the owner doesn't lose anything they previously owned, change my mind.
@@luxeayt6694 objectively, demonstrably true.
9:16 I once bought a pokemon game on a flea market and did that because the old save that still was on there had all legendary pokemons.
My dad used to rent block buster games and burn the cds. He even had a label printer and would but the CD label on the disks and would give them to us for christmas. This was for the PS1.
Some people i know barely afford playstation..but they can't afford to play games they want.. especially the new ones.. I've seen a lot of people waiting for 70% discount just to play new games..
I mean true. Spent 300 on a switch and a game.
@@DiegoGarcia-nv1ou and new gens games cost so much ..
@@aiyuuu8908 Yeah crazy since most people cant even afford a ps4
@@DiegoGarcia-nv1ou ohhh yeah.. that is true.. and i think for the playstation I don't know for sure but some games that will come out won't be supported by ps4 right ?
What I hated about BO3 was that even when you got the season pass (which said it includes all DLC), once zombie chronicles came out it just seemed to forget that and made you pay the 15 bucks for some zombies maps. so like you had to pay the games original $60 price again to get all the dlc. ridiculous
The season pass only says u get 4 dlc packs and zombies chronicles was like 2 years later I feel like that ones kinda fair
Activision moment
Actually it was 30$ I remember because I was pissed until I saw origins
i love dunkey
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Sus 😳
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I love dream uwu
@@EZYash5 i love your mum
Dunkey roasted xQc once he played that Marvel's Avengers clip OMEGALUL
The problem now is the companies that are pushing to increase the base price of a video game are also the ones with some of the most predatory monetization schemes in the industry. They will increase the price, charge $40 for a dlc with 2 hours of gameplay, and keep microtransactions.
Because games that were $50-60 in the 90's adjusted for inflation would be like $180 today. Since they haven't increased the base price of games, they HAVE to resort to other tactics to make the same profit.
@@Spladoinkal That would be true if the player base stayed the same. Millions more are playing games now than in the 90s. On top of that games are more accessible now than they were then. We're talking about companies with execs that are getting paid tens of millions a year. It's greed on behalf of the shareholders and the execs. I could handle a price increase if that money went directly to the game devs, but it won't. The game industry is the most profitable media industry for a reason.
I wish X played Pikmin 3, especially cause dunkey said that he'd pay $100 for it.
The Pikmin franchise is underrated
Now we know why blockbuster went out of business.
Mr Cows take on the cost of old cod games at 5:58 is very correct, i really want to go and play old cod black ops 2 zombies on my PC but am i fuck forking up 50 quid for that shit
im canadien so 60 is actually 80 and with taxes its like 95 so im spending almost a hundred fkn dollars on games bro
USD?
It’s funny how little that person saying “don’t talk about emulating” actually knows. You can talk all you want about emulating, you can literally emulate on stream and nothing will happen. You can link Emulators and NOTHING WILL HAPPEN, what you CANT do is link the ROM. That’s were you can get in trouble. But your chance of even getting in trouble is pretty slim. I just go by the rule of not emulating something I can just buy simply. That’s it.
idk why people mald about skin prices in valorant, if you cant afford it simply dont buy it not the end of the world i just bait and body block my teammates for one EZ
4:14 Okay to be fair if you're familiar with Larian studios you already know that when the game fully drops it's gonna be a masterpiece, you're paying that $60 bucks to play through the early stages of the game and see how it progresses development wise. I bought it when it first dropped and I still got 70 hours worth of gameplay out of it, it's a fantastic game.
xQc singlehandedly bankrupted blockbuster, thanks xQc
He got me at "What SEASON"
so true about cod, if they just had a permanent $20 price there would actually be people playing
Emulation is only illegal if you're downloading the rom. If you own the game and you port the rom onto your PC to run on an emulator, it isn't
@@obi-wancanblowme5968 What he said is true in the EU, don't know if it's legal in the US though. The logic goes that you bought the license, moving it to your pc isn't illegal.
Why do you care about it being legal
eeeeh I'm pretty sure that's a legal grey area.
@@obi-wancanblowme5968 Google it lol. Why would emulating hardware and software that you own be illegal? Nothing is being copied without being paid for.
thats the first time ive seen him make a point without stuttering more than talking
Sony is really trying to push the 70$ games and "director cuts".
$70 also applies to Series S/X versions of games
@@Kagetora- Ever heard fo gamepass?
realistically games cost way more, every COD costs around 150$ with the season pass.
You get less content now than ever since theres a new title in the series like 8 months later...
They're also filled with Micro-transactions, in some cases they are cosmetics but they still generate more revenue than games back in the day....
Publishers are making a shit ton of money, doesn't matter if the costs are higher they're making MORE money...
Fuck em.
That is just not true. Most games are just fine if you only buy the base game and don't buy anything else. Yes there are a few exceptions but that is definitely not the rule. You are in no way forced to buy skins or other microtransactions.
@@dayko. GTA 5 has pay to win mechanics .
COD puts map packs in the season passes and basically locks you out of lobbies.
WoW has a sub,micro transactions,pay-to-win and box price.
MOST games with season passes lock you out of multiplayer !
Single player is dying in the FPS genre so when you get locked out of MP you're basically forced to pay for a season pass.
If its a Free-to-play game with a season pass and micro-transactions that don't affect player power its totally fine but theres like 3 of those...
@@DemoNXCros GTA Online is not a competetive game. Yes you can get money in game with actual money but that will not really give you much except cars and planes or a tank. Not really pay to win imo. Just pay to not play the game and get cars etc faster. Which COD games locks you out of lobbies if you don't have the season pass? If that is a real thing that is definitely scummy and I agree with you there. And WoW has always been a subscription based game. Didnt know there were microtransactions in WoW aswell but if they are pay to win that is scummy. Except GTA the games you listed also just arent games I play. What games except COD and WoW can you think of that "force" you to buy the microtransactions? I am pretty sure for 95%+ of games it is optional and mostly just cosmetics.
@@dayko. Real money gets you Over powered over priced flying bikes that grief entire lobbies...I actually have all the businesses and i still cant manage to make money in a decent rate , even with heists some of the new stuff is so overpriced that unless you mod or buy microtransactions you're always behind.
Last game that locked you out was BO4 , haven't played any of the newer titles so I can't personally make claims.
I've played WoW for 15 years and this shit has gotten to a point where you can buy absolutely everything with real money...even competitive progression/titles/gear/rating/achivements.
quick google search = you still need battle pass to play new maps, that basically limits the lobbies you can join ...and most people will play the newer maps and also they are in the overall map pool so you can get kicked out of a lobby because you dont have a map.
I'll just list some pay-to-win titles I've played.
Warframe,Neverwinter,Starwars Battlefront 2,Payday 2,Dungeon Keeper,Archeage, most car games, EVERY FIFA,UFC,NBA and most other sports games...
And there are like 100 more that i've never played
I dont want game support for years with road maps. I want a solid game at release, and be done with it. Charge for the DLC later on if it makes sense.
3:52
Me listening to xqc and watching chat while being an artist for a game 😐
Don't listen to him
Ya'll do us a favor by adding nice art to look at (tho having them physically is better imo.. I know it is more expensive but it's so much better)
@@bareq99 thanks
@@Grey-sq7dy NP :)
My biggest problem with game price is that the price is the same in all countries, For example in my country average salary is 500$ but many people even work for less than that, so you bet i won t pay fcking 60$ for that game, i go full pirate
When I see a cool game get overpriced I lose all will to play it
F2P, man. I saw this and I remember PSO:NGS yesterday, they ask 100$ on sonic skin, the game is barely have enough content, and if you miss it. You will never get that skin in maybe 1 year until the next event.
Yeah it's sonic, if it's something like naruto, one piece, or demon slayer, overlord or any popular stuff, people gonna end up bankrupt fast.
So you have to keep constantly grind for ingame money, cuz if you miss it, and you don't have ingame money, good luck finding that items on market.
"[...] buy my dlc" i spit my water
Dude the Nintendo Game shit is so true. For a brand new copy of Paper Mario TTYD (Second Game) costs like $1000. Literally spent $130 for a used copy
Honestly? That's a very good price for how expensive the gamecube is now
I am trying to get a CIB copy of Zelda Twilight Princess (GC version) and it's usually 200$ used
@@bareq99 Yea TTYD was a steal, I bought it the second the store announced it but damn old games are too pricey
@@Unreasonablenet onl NINTENDO games
And I really don't get why it is always just them
You'd think if they put their games on current hardware the games would go down in price
So they did that back in the wii days via the virtual console
The NES games tripled in price 2 months after the Virtual console released..
and now people cry about paying $60 for a game they have put in more than 50hrs with and call it a 'ripoff'
maybe because soon after the game gets heavily discounted and you're only gonna be getting 50hrs with an RPG.
0:42 - 0:46 , best Scene.....so much Meme Potencial
AAA games released in Canada, after taxes, are usually around $85-$87 CDN. Fucking insane. It is not even remotely a good idea to sell them for so much. I, and millions of people like me, would be more likely to purchase consoles and new games on both consoles and PC, if those games were cheaper.
Agreed first point gamers demand alot....but AAA devs are trying to charge more less. So weird ass cycle.
In the EU, emulation is completely legal and ok as long as the product you're emulating is no longer being sold or supported by it's original developer/publisher
@@hooimansen It's not true.
Pretty sure that's a lie lol
Yea idk about that one mate lmao
People in chat complaining about people emulating calling it theft don't seem to realize that you can't buy those games new anymore
the first cod is going for 19.95 on steam 18 years after its release.
4:04 omg someone remembers into the breach!
Is funnier now that he actually bought and played Lawn mowing simulator
i like how dunkey took some soundtrack from rdr 1 for this video
how tf COD bundle still so expensive after all this years???
There is an economic term for what I'm about to explain but, I don't know what it is, basically if you are a big company, and you make really good games that cost 8 bucks (per buy) to make and you sell it for 10 bucks that is 2 profit per buy, but because you have a large fan base and advertising power, you can sell SO MUCH copies and make a lot of money
BUT a small gaming company, making very simple games(because they don't have the funds), cannot make a significant profit by selling for a 2 bucks/buy profit, as you do not have that much reach, so you are going to have to sell for 15 bucks or more, to get something at least.
apart from this charging a fuck ton of money for an old game is absolute robbery, and "free to play" games have to sell skins to keep their games running, as long as it does not give you an advantage it is acceptable.
(sorry about my trash explanation)
Except it costs nothing but time, and the cost per unit is nil. This only applies to actual commodities, not digital ones.
Free to play games only have server and employee costs; which is also basically nothing. Take riot games for example; they can sell a single skin for 20$, and if they sell that single image to even a tenth of their playerbase, they have just made more money than their game would cost to run for 100 years. Meanwhile it probably took maybe 20 people a few afternoons to make. It's amazing how easily they can manipulate their customers into paying over 1000$ for a free game, and that's somehow more acceptable than interfering with the gameplay.
You also have the economics of that backwards; it costs a large developer much more to make a game, and the reach is subjective; they have to pay for that advertising, which people might respond poorly to. AAA titles flop all the time, and indie games tend to have much higher returns due to the lack of cost to make; since if even 1000 people buy your game you're making a decent return for the effort, where a big group of developers would have to split it. An indie dev isn't going to lose 10 mill if their game doesn't sell, they just lost whatever free time they spent.
The only benefit these large corps have over indie developers is asset value; which is completely worthless in tech when talking about creating something new, and that's why we end up with the same physics engines running tons of reskinned games for 80$, while a completely hand-made indie game can go for 1$ - 25$ usually.
I completely agree that selling old games at a mark-up is literally monopolization.
@@bahamutzero4903 ok yeah, I see how the economics is different for digital commodities.
for xqc the perfect gift for the gamer dad: Namco Museum but then again thats not everything
Its so much more expensive for gaming. Console/PC cost, online cost, dlc cost, accessories cost, games cost - deluxe editions, online gambling (loot boxes etc.). Some of these force you to buy them to be competitive. Internet bills...
Its a rich man's luxury now. One of the reasons I stopped gaming.
The fuckare your hobbies? Watching grass grow?
Its really not, ive been gaming since i was 4, im almost 17 now and i doubt i spent 200$ dollars in all that time, mostly because i cant purchase stuff online and i cant find physical places close to me, but if you think you NEED to buy dlcs, accessories, deluxe editions and loot boxes, thats on you my man