Debunking Dispensationalism IV: Where Dispensationalism Leads
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Pastor McMurtry applying some spiritual blunt force trauma to dispensationalists!!
I’m all for dispensations. The dispensation of the Old Testament where man was saved by grace through faith looking forward to the cross. And the dispensation of the New Testament where man is saved by grace through faith looking backward to the cross.
These are my strongest reasons against dispensation theology.
1. The whole bible (Kjv of course) is about Jesus and eternal life, not just the new. Almost every single aspect is a shadowing or a type of Jesus. The ark, the seed, Abraham, Joseph, serpent of brass, Psalms,Malachi, Jonah, Ruth... ect.
2 Jesus said himself " search the scriptures for in them ye think ye have eternal life and they are they which testify of me" John 5:39
Moses.....wrote of me John 5:46
3 the gospel is everlasting Revelation 14:6
4 colossians 1:16-18 states all things were created by him, and for him...in all things he might have preeminence.
Thus, if Jesus is the word, (old and new testaments) then why would anyone point to Isreal to fulfill anything? It is and always will be about my Lord Jesus. Look to no other doctrine. Simply look to Jesus who is the beginning and end. Truly not complicated.
willywonkalucretia don’t misunderstand my comment, it was sarcastic, you are absolutely right.
@@willywonkalucretia The Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled the Mosiac Law when he was here on the Earth. He obeyed every part of the law, and did not sin in anyway whatsoever. After the Cross, we are freed from the Mosiac Law, and now live in Grace through the Holy Spirit. Only with the leading of the Holy Spirit can you obey and fear the Lord. The mass did not have The Holy Spirit in the Old Testament, expect for a few Old Testament Believers such as Moses. No one could completely obey the Law. We now live in a different age where we live in Grace through the fellowship of the Holy Spirit. We are allowed to eat pork and shrimp because The Lord Jesus Christ freed us from the dietary laws of the Old Testament. We worship on Sunday because that is the day outlined in the New Testament by our Lord. We do not worship on the Sabbath because that was for a different age. You need to understand that these are two different ages. We live in the Church Age, or Age of Grace, while the Israelites before lived in the Age of Israel.
J.J i have no "need" to understand " church age" I have the Lord Jesus. The need I have is him. I screw up something everyday and place my hope in Jesus. He is the alpha and omega, first and last. He is the old and new Testament. He has preeminence in all things of faith. I'm not mocking your text, I'm not attacking your view. I feel as if many times I do not know much, and need to preach Christ and him crucified.
@@willywonkalucretia The Lord Jesus Christ never stops being Lord or King when we talk about dispensations. The foreshadowing of the Old Testament with the New Testament is never denied or rebuked, as a matter of fact, this doctrine coexists beautifully with the doctrine of dispensations because both of them are from the Bible. It is important, however, to see that today the Christian life is different from that of the Old Testament. Take the priesthood for example: Every believer is a priest unto God. Every believer in the Lord Jesus Christ deals personally with God. This was not the case in the Old Testament where people had to go to the Levites to do Holy service. The reason for this is because after the Pentecost a new age began. The God of Israel in the Old Testament is the Lord Jesus Christ. The God has not changed. The way of salvation in both times is by faith in God. What has changed is the Jew and Gentile in one body, the Body of Christ, the Church. Before it was the Nation of Israel who God dealt with.
Do you believe that we are living in a global state of apostasy? That the world is growing secular, that Christianity today is at one of the most darkest hours in history, if not the darkest? The openly homosexual society of today, the immoral and moral degeneracy of people everywhere, the increasingly hostile attitude towards The Bible and what it teaches: all of these things are happening after the Evangelism of missionaries, after England and America who were once Christian majority countries are now secular or following different heathen beliefs, if not both.No Christian nation now exists. Nobody is reading the Bible, nobody is saying "what saith the scriptures?"; not offending people with satanic doctrine, gays and feminists is what today Christians are doing. Without Dispensations, this cannot be properly explained. We are living in the end of this age. It can't be the end of the world because we still have the Tribulation and Millennium ahead of us, as said the in the Scripture! But it is the end of something else. It is the end of this age, the Church Age, which will end with the rapture. The rapture is a biblical doctrine. It is a promise to those Christians today who are "holding fast that which they have", about which The Lord Jesus said "I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth." Rev 3:10-11. This verse is for the 2nd to last church of the Revelation, the last one being the apostate Laodicea, which enters into the Tribulation.
Amen Pastor! Keep hammering them.
Man, I would hate to be Identified in the front row of a Sam Gipp variety performance.
Excellent points Pastor.
@Jon Baker
What the "majority" believes is NOT IMPORTANT!! What is important is what does the KING JAMES BIBLE SAY!! And dispensationalism is a LIE!! Even as a teenager, when I was being taught that, it never made any sense to me!! Maybe because I was one of the few that actually read my Bible??!!
The dispensation of:
1. Innocence: ended because of Adam and Eve's sin.
2. Conscience: ended by the flood.
3. Human Government: began right after the flood
4. Promise: Began in Genesis 12 with God calling Abram
5. Law: began at Mount Sinai, with God giving the Law to Moses
6. Grace: began at the resurrection of Jesus Christ, supposedly until now.
7. Kingdom: Will begin with Jesus' Millennial Reign
They say that God dealt differently with each dispensation and that God had to "change plans" each time because man messed things up!! So, with that they, the dispensationalists, don't believe that God is Omniscient, which means that God KNOWS EVERYTHING, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN GOD CONTROLS EVERYTHING!!
Like I said, just because "the majority" believes this garbage doesn't make it true, especially if it contradicts what God says in His Word, the King James Bible!! By that logic you can claim that what the Catholic church teaches is true because a lot of people believe it!! Not so!! That proves NOTHING!!
Exodus 23:2 KJV
THOU SHALT NOT FOLLOW A MULTITUDE TO DO EVIL; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment :
Where does dispensationalism lead to?
Madness...
Utter madness...
It actually led me to take the Bible literally and now Revelation isn’t confusing.
@@Dexion845 Who is literally the one seed in Galatians 3:16?
Who is the "son" which is the "heir" to the land in Matthew chapter 21? What did He say would happen to those who reject Him as the "chief cornerstone"?
Are there literally two different groups of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5?
Does the land belong to the Baal worshipers?
What is the eternal land promise in Hebrews 11:15-16? Is it found on this rotten, sin-cursed world?
Why do most people attempt to ignore "the time of the judgment of the dead" in Revelation 11:18?
SpotterVideo Yes of course Abraham was promised his seed would be the inheritance. That would be Jesus Christ...
But you are forgetting another promise that God made to Abraham:
“On the same day the LORD made *_a covenant_* with Abram, saying: “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates- the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.””
Genesis 15:18-21 NKJV
There are no if’s and’s or but’s about this covenant. If you’ve just forgot this covenant from scripture that is fine.
What does the passage in Hebrews 11 have anything to do with the nation of Israel? You just threw that in there randomly why? That talks about the heavenly home of Christians... doesn’t speak about the physical seed of Israel or the Jews at all... but you know what fits perfectly in context?
*_ROMANS CHAPTER 11_*
Literally that entire chapter deals with Israel’s rejection *_NOT_* being final. Paul even says plainly for ALL to see.
“I say then, has God cast away His people? *_CERTAINLY NOT_* For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, (“ LORD, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”? But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”) Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.”
Romans 11:1-5 NKJV
And if that wasn’t clear enough Paul offers this advice:
“For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.””
Romans 11:25-27 NKJV
What happens when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in? Then God will transition to the salvation of Israel. If you read Zechariah chapter 14 you can see Christ will split the mount of Olives at the Battle of Armageddon. That Battle happens in Israel as ALL nations of the world will try to attack Israel. Jesus will return with his army and make war... the blood of the attackers will pile up as high as a horse’s bridle. That’s how bad they will be defeated.
So now since you cannot figure the importance of Israel into your worldview. You are led to believe all kinds of private prophecy.
The resurrection and judgement of the dead has not happened yet. God is not some human lawyer that has to hear every case one by one either.
@@Dexion845 Based on Luke 21:24-28, the fulness of the Gentiles occurs at the future Second Coming of Christ.
You are ignoring the fact that there are two different groups of Israelites in Romans 11. Do you know the difference between the Baal worshipers, and the faithful remnant in Romans 11:1-5? Do you believe God owes a piece of land to the Baal worshipers?
I have had several people try to lead me into dispensationalism. Praise God , the Holy Spirit will not allow it. The Heresies and false doctrines of Irving, Darby, Larkin and Scofield are not going to change my belief in God's word. They have no fear of God's authority and unfortunately have added to his Holy word for their own gain. Pride has done this to therm.
This video made me sad. So many people who call themselves "christians" have gotten SO FAR away from the Bible that it's not even fun. It just makes me sad.
Excellent! You're speaking my language over and over again, you do understand your bibles my brother! I encourage you to never stop and keep being a good pastor for your congregation
6:35 this pastor there had a flag of the Israel of statism over the archway not a cross? Hmm
Rightly dividing and dispensationalusm is exactly what simplified the Bible and salvation after 45 years of bondage and no assurance of my salvation. Praise God I am now free and I know where my hope lies. Next.
100% agree Randy! Well said! 👍
Thank you so much Pastor!!
wow! dispensationalism is weird and wicked.
Why are you still sacrificing animals for sin???
nobody is sacrificing animals for sin
@@MattyJohn146
Not today, but they did in the OT.
Congratulations! You just acknowledged a division in time! Or dare we say, a DISPENSATION!!
Great job my young dispensationalist 👍
Hebrews 10:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
The OT sacrifices were a symbolic picture of the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ. They did not save anybody. Faith alone saves, from Adam until the end of time!
A dispensation is not a period of time, use a dictionary and look up the word. You have been taught heresy and need to READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
@@MattyJohn146
READ YOUR BIBLE!!
There was no death of the Testator in the OT (Hebrew 9:16-17 KJV). In the OT, they *literally* sacrificed animals for sins or they *literally* went to Hell.
Do you deny this fact??
Dispensationalism leads to understanding the Bible without contradiction. Nondispensationalism leads to satanic heresies and Bible ignorance
J RAN 85 yup thousands of different “interpretations” of prophecies other than their literal word because people think Bible dispensations are heresy.
@@Dexion845
Man contradicts, the Bible doesn't. Unless you're a non-dispensationalist of course, then both man and the Bible contradict 🤷♂️
J Ran is a blasphemer who is saying that the Holy Ghost can't teach God's people God's Word. Wow! Repent sinner.
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you." John 16:13-14
"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." 1 John 2:27
I don't think most people even know what they believe. If you were to ask if they were dispensationalist they may not even know what that means. They are going to churches that are and believe in pre-trib rapture, but they don't even know what they believe outside of that.
Why don’t you adress Isaiah 61 Jesus rightly divided the passage dispensationally in your face
I've never heard someone claim a new dispensation started in Luke 4:21. That's a new one for me!
I'm glad you are preaching it! The next line of defense they use is that we are Calvinist.
Don’t call yourself anything other than what God calls you. Think about that a minute - why do we label ourselves with religious terms like Pastor, Baptist or other mmmm!
To answer your first question. I have been watching up till now because if it can be debunked I want to hear it .. well so I been kinda thinking to my self “when will he start debunking” maybe now?
So if I didn't debunk anything where was I wrong? That's a kids argument to just say "no you didn't" without showing where I was wrong. If we are going to play that game then my response will be "yes I did". I think your pointless comments with zero substance shows that you are highly bothered by the fact that these videos destroy your false religion.
@@GiveMeLibertyBaptist Throughout the videos you simply said, Dispensationalists are wrong because this verse says this and that (Which every dispensationalist agree with like the one in 1Corinthians 10) But you never gave any explanation on why it is wrong in the interpretation of verses like Ezekiel 18:24, or Acts 2:38.
This is grade school level own. You are pathetic.
You say you’re debunking dispensation. You say the word dispensation over and over and over. You point your finger like people who believe like this are a cult. You have debunked nothing. If you say you’re going to debunk something, shouldn’t you get to the root? Let me ask you a few questions. You are a pastor so you should be able to answer. Did Paul and Jesus preach the same? Who is your apostle? Is God dealing with man today as he did in His earthly ministry? Is the nation Israel blinded by God right now? If so when does the blindfold come off? Is the gospel of the kingdom the same as the gospel of the grace of God? Compare Rom.4:5 with James 2:14,17,24. These are just a few questions I can go on and on. I’m just a barber who studies Gods word alone. I don’t claim a denomination like baptist, because Paul said they there be no devisions among you. I belong to the church the body of Christ. I don’t go to church, because there are none that rightly devide around me. There are to many pastors like you who have an appearance of godliness but lack the power there of. Answer those questions. If you answer them right, then you will be what you call a dispinsationalist. If you don’t rightly devide, you will not be able to answer. Check yourself, see how you debunked nothing. Remember people, satan comes through the pulpit too, 2 Corinthians 11:14.
Cry harder
Don't worry about Ruckman. He may be totally wrong but dispensationionalism is absolutely correct given correctly. Ruckman might be wrong in his way so ignore his way
It only took 3 minutes... Claiming that Paul was warning against people like Dispensationalists in 2 Cor 11. That they preach a different gospel. You're claiming Dispensationalist aren't Christians. As a fellow believer, read the following verses and repent.
Romans 16:17-18 ESV
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.
Proverbs 6:16-19 ESV
There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and ONE WHO SOWS DISCORD AMONG BROTHERS.
Also, "when you tell a lie, you need to tell more lies to cover up for the first one". Gotcha, now I understand why you did an entire series on this.
Pastor Pray and study hard!
This is my fav video I’ve seen of yours yet. I just discovered your channel tonight .
Has anyone from The covenant Reform theology camp ever taught the whole bible, like John Vernon McGee has done.?
I never heard about it.
Dispensationalism is a biblical doctrine, which one will come to if they read the Word of God *under influence of the Holy Spirit.* 1 Cor 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." Here is a short explanation from H. A. Ironside:
"The word “dispensation” is found several times in the pages of our English Bible and is a translation of the Greek word “oikonomia.” This word, strictly speaking, means “house order.” It might be translated “administration,” “order,” or “stewardship.” In each successive age, God gives to men of faith a certain stewardship, or makes known to them a certain order or administration, in accordance with which they are responsible to behave. A dispensation then is a period of time in which God is dealing with men in some way in which He has not dealt with them before. Only when a new revelation from God is given, does a dispensation change. Moreover, there may be degrees of revelation in one dispensation; all, however, having to do with a fuller unfolding of the will of God for that particular age. This was very definitely true in the dispensation of law, from Moses to Christ. We have the various revelations: of Sinai, both the first and second giving of the law; then added instructions during the wilderness years; the covenant with David; and the revelations given to the prophets. The circumstances in which God’s people were found changed frequently during this age of law, but the dispensation itself continued from Sinai until Jesus cried, “It is finished.” It is important to have this in mind, otherwise the vast scope of an ever unfolding dispensation may be lost sight of, and one might get the idea that every additional revelation of truth in a given age changed the dispensation, whereas it only enlarges it."
The influence of the Holy Spirit showed me that what my Dispensational Sunday School teacher said is not in the Bible.
The Greek word oikonomia (and its various contextual conjugations) has at least 2 different meanings. One which you stated meaning household management or stewardship. The Greek word nomos means law because in Greek mythology Nomos was the god of law. But Nomos (or nomas) has another definition meaning field, allotment or distribution. For example, a nomad is a person who wonders around looking for pasture to feed his livestock.
This Greek word (and its various parts of speech) is in the Greek NT multiple times. But in 4 instances the KJV translators translated it as dispensation, yet the modern translations don't make this distinction. As a KJV onlyist, you have to ask yourself, why?
So you have a choice here.
1. Either the KJV committee mistranslated it and dispensationalists are right to apply the household definition in these 4 places.
2. Or dispensation is the correct word to use in these 4 places because Paul was talking about something completely different.
If you think I'm incorrect, tell me where I'm wrong without using any lexicographer who is tied to any critical Greek text or modern perversion starting at the RV of 1881.
What?!? I think all this is Peter Ruchman teachings
I appreciate your well done videos and that you aren’t afraid to question what people are teaching. Can you do a video debunking the KJV only crowd? People need to realize that KJV is not the original language of the a bible and that we can have modern reliable translations. Most people don’t speak in 17th century English, so why would we teach they most important living Word in a language they don’t understand? It reminds me of when the catholics did all their services in Latin and it concealed the Word of God from the people who didn’t speak Latin. Does the Chinese church read KJV? What about Israeli believers? If every other country can read the Bible in their native tongue, why not modern English for us?
100% NO One becomes dispensationalist without being taught by doctrine of man they def did not believe that in the beginning though I don't know the covenant theory is correct either
One question why was Jesus baptised...
To fulfill all righteousness. He was setting the example for the rest of us. That is why we get baptized after salvation. It identifies us with Christ.
I became a dispensational because eph 3:1-21 and Jesus showed me how in Isaiah 61 exactly how to rightly divide!!!!jesus himself did it !!!!!!! See how he closed the book !!! Yeah but peter says the things that paul says are hard to understand your oversimplified the bible
Yes, l don't think l agree with ruckman but l absolutely see dispensationalism in the WORD of GOD. Ruckman may be a heretic. I know what l believe in scripture
Oh man... just seeing the title and preparing to watch. Getting ready for the 4th worthless video based on the title. We shall see.
I hate dispensationalism
I know this is an older video but I just found it😃
Are these people Mormons? The population of the universe.. Zombie rage? Pastor are these people saved?
Well at least Sam Gipp makes some great points about Joe Biden!!!! What a loon S.G. is!
Some of them men were blasphamy
Ruckmen is moderate dispensational soon as the light was turned on to it ruckman is where I headed .. once you turn on that light you cannot unsee what you have seen. You don’t need their books it’s just helps speed things up rightly dividing is not dispensationalism are not the same they go hand and hand ....Matt 19:16-19, acts2:38, gal 2:8-9 rom3:28gal2:7
These is false dispensationlist straw man argument he doesn’t understand and is blind to obvious divides in scripture that even Jesus divided when he read from the scroll from Isaiah but you won’t mention how vengeance was for another divided time ...the now was what was fullfilled after sitting down the future was vengeance for another day called Jacobs trouble!!! Unless you dispensationlly divided the time up you couldn’t tell Jesus he was incorrect in doing that !! You wouldn’t know how unless Jesus showed you how to rightly divide passages
Non of these clips represents a dispensationlist who reads their bible 2nd Tim 2:15 study’s and searches the scriptures comparing spiritual things with spiritual things !!! Who really believe thore? Ha your out of your mind ha ha ha lol comedy