Debunking Dispensationalism VI: Why Dispensationalists Must Believe in Two Kingdoms

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  • @Dante.TheNewIFB
    @Dante.TheNewIFB 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Pastor!

  • @frankc-k3q
    @frankc-k3q ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so happy 🎉

  • @CliveOHagan
    @CliveOHagan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There is no way you believe in the Bible alone if you believe there are two kingdoms belonging to God. It is crystal clear they are the same thing. It doesn't matter what Jackie Chan's brother says it is.

  • @GiveMeLibertyBaptist
    @GiveMeLibertyBaptist  6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Just an FYI for everyone. I didn't have time on this video to cover all the arguments that the dispensationalists use to prove 2 kingdoms. It would have been too much to cover in one video. I will probably be preaching a full message in the near future debunking all the lame arguments. The arguments are very lame and easy to refute. The point of this video was not to debunk the teaching of two kingdoms, but to show dispensationalists who don't believe in two kingdoms that their doctrine doesn't make any sense. The videos now are geared toward saved dispensationalists not Ruckmanites.

  • @theedifyingseerofJESUS4106
    @theedifyingseerofJESUS4106 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah I agree

  • @davidrobinson8824
    @davidrobinson8824 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's so foolish to think the Kingdom of heaven and Kingdom of God are different. Here's another passage that absolutely destroys that insanity:
    Matthew 19:23-24
    [23] Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the >>kingdom of heavenkingdom of God.

    • @davidrobinson8824
      @davidrobinson8824 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Russian BOT No there is no difference or else Jesus wouldn't use them interchangeably in Matthew 4:17 & Mark 1:15 as well as Matthew 19. Problem is you guys have to hold on to this doctrine in order to be pro-Israel considering that Matthew 21:43 destroys that position.

    • @davidrobinson8824
      @davidrobinson8824 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Russian BOT God loves them yes but they are not God's chosen people. The modern day physical Israel is satanic and not of God.

    • @davidrobinson8824
      @davidrobinson8824 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Russian BOT Israel will be saved when unbelieving Israel is wiped out. Matthew 21:43 is clear they have been replaced. They are election because they were the chosen people in the OT but have been rejected by God for rejecting Christ. God isn't just going to bring them back. They must believe on Christ. Faith comes by hearing God's Word. God only brought them back in the OT when they turned back to him on their own accord.

    • @youngnixx88788
      @youngnixx88788 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidrobinson8824
      Basic Bible study shows the two kingdoms are different.
      Matt 11:12 KJV
      And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth *violence,* and the *violent take it by force.*
      If "both kingdoms are the same", who takes God's kingdom by force??!

    • @davidrobinson8824
      @davidrobinson8824 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      J RAN 85 Looks like the Jews want to take it by force. Look at Romans 10 which says they tried to establish their own righteousness and not submit themselves unto the righteousness of God. You can't answer Matthew 4:17 and Mark 1:15.
      God and heaven is like calling Israel the kingdom of David or kingdom of Israel. Same thing different name.

  • @saltlight7487
    @saltlight7487 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is wild isn’t it? Who is the King in the kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven? God. Cmon people. One king. One kingdom. One body. One Spirit. One God.
    The kingdom is triune, just like our God. In heaven (Father), on earth (Jesus), and in us (Holy Spirit), But ultimately ONE kingdom!

  • @johananswedlund7149
    @johananswedlund7149 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The replacement teachers always play around with peripheral subjects and never tackle the basic issue which of course is that you can't apply the hundreds of prophecies for Israel to the church, it doesn't work.

  • @NightHowl86
    @NightHowl86 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God/Heaven but flesh and bone can. Thoughts anyone?

    • @hereticus40
      @hereticus40 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of GOD, but it can inherit the kingdom of HEAVEN. Israel was promised a kingdom for 1,500 years. What is Israel but flesh and blood? They have to be two different kingdoms. IMHO. ; )

    • @NightHowl86
      @NightHowl86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hereticus40 They are the same thing, they are mentioned interchangeably in the bible.

    • @hereticus40
      @hereticus40 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are not interchangeable at all. They are two completely different kingdoms, with different locations, different citizens, different rules, although Jesus is Head over both. My post under this video on Dec 11 lightly touches on a few of the differences.

    • @NightHowl86
      @NightHowl86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hereticus40 Matthew 19:23-24 he's talking about the same place and they are used interchangeably in back to back verses. Go spread your lies to someone else who is weak minded and will just believe you because Ruckman and Gipp said so.

    • @hereticus40
      @hereticus40 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NightHowl86 Wow. No grace in this bunch at all. Seriously. I have verses and reasons to back up what I believe. If you disagree with those reasons, that doesn’t mean I’m a liar, and I don’t consider you a liar. It just means we disagree. Lighten up, Francis.

  • @85lives
    @85lives 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent and clear presentation. 👍🏻

  • @StevePs5289
    @StevePs5289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    KOH and KOG are not one in the same. There are no tares in the KOG, but there are tares in the KOH.

    • @krishnaswami3362
      @krishnaswami3362 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      KOG and KOH are the one and same thing. Everlasting life with God in heaven after the millennium kingdom and white throne judgement. 😊😊😊

  • @theedifyingseerofJESUS4106
    @theedifyingseerofJESUS4106 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A Peter Ruchman doctrine

  • @SpotterVideo
    @SpotterVideo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised
    to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ
    during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and
    specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews
    12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal
    of the Church falls with it.

  • @abramkuhlman7201
    @abramkuhlman7201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This fella doesn’t see how his own theology has been tainted with dispensationalism. I agree dispensationalism has crept in and emasculated the church. Anyone who knows church history will see that dispensationalism is a novelty of the last century. I encourage this pastor and anyone aligned with him to check out the book “He Shall Have Dominion” by Kenneth Gentry. If you’re not a big reader take a look at Bruce Gore’s series on TH-cam called “Apocalypse in Space and Time”. Then check out anything from Doug Wilson, James White, Kenneth Gentry, Gary DeMar, Jeff Durbin or even Joel Webbon to name a handful. Happy learning.

  • @FaithfulServantsOfChrist
    @FaithfulServantsOfChrist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The kingdom of God is spiritual fellowship with God:
    Romans 14:17 - "For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost."
    The kingdom of heaven is the physical earthly kingdom:
    Matthew 11:12 - "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force."
    If the kingdom of heaven is not the physical kingdom, then how is the kingdom of heaven able to suffer violence and be taken by force?

    • @krishnaswami3362
      @krishnaswami3362 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kingdom of God is the everlasting life with God in heaven when the millennium kingdom is over after thousand years reign of Christ on earth. That will occur after the white throne judgement.

  • @JOHNch4.v.v.7to10
    @JOHNch4.v.v.7to10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, according to Dispensationalists Jesus IS the Lamb of God. Therefore Jesus CAN'T be the Lion of Judah!! Why? Well dummy, 2 different animals, and the first one is of God, the 2nd is from Judah. Heck, they're not even spelled the same!

  • @AnnalizaAnza-ew4dl
    @AnnalizaAnza-ew4dl ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir apply the 5W...

  • @theedifyingseerofJESUS4106
    @theedifyingseerofJESUS4106 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God are the same. Both spiritual and physical like the Holy Ghost of God and God’s physical kingdom
    Matthew 19:13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
    Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the 👉🏼kingdom of heaven.
    Matthew 19:15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.
    Mark 10:14 But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the 👉🏼kingdom of God.
    Mark 10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
    Luke 12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.
    Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
    Luke 12:34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
    Luke 12:35 Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
    Luke 18:15 And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
    Luke 18:16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
    Luke 18:17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
    Matthew 6:33 But seek ye 👉🏼first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
    Colossians 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
    1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
    1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
    The Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God are the same.
    Matthew 19:13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
    Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the 👉🏼kingdom of heaven.
    Matthew 19:15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.
    Mark 10:14 But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the 👉🏼kingdom of God.
    Mark 10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
    Romans 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
    Romans 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
    Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
    Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
    Wisdom is the Kingdom of God
    Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
    Matthew 12:27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
    Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
    Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
    Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
    Mark 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
    Deuteronomy 30:11-14 - For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither 👉🏼is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
    Proverbs 30:4 - Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
    John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
    John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
    Job 28:12 But where shall wisdom be found? and where is the place of understanding?
    Job 28:13 Man knoweth not the price thereof; neither is it found in the land of the living.
    Job 28:14 👉🏼The depth saith, It is not in me: and the sea saith, It is not with me.
    Job 28:20 Whence then cometh wisdom? and where is the place of understanding?
    Job 28:21 Seeing it is hid from the eyes of all living, and kept close from the fowls of the air.
    Job 28:22 Destruction and death say, We have heard the fame thereof with our ears.
    Job 28:23 God understandeth the way thereof, and he knoweth the place thereof.
    Job 28:24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven;
    Job 28:25 To make the weight for the winds; and he weigheth the waters by measure.
    Job 28:26 When he made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder:
    Job 28:27 Then did he see it, and declare it; he prepared it, yea, and searched it out.
    Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
    Job 11:6 And that he would shew thee the secrets of wisdom, that they are double to that which is! Know therefore that God exacteth of thee less than thine iniquity deserveth.
    Job 11:7 Canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection?
    Job 11:8 It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do? deeper than hell; what canst thou know?
    Ecclesiastes 7:23 All this have I proved by wisdom: I said, I will be wise; but it was far from me.
    Ecclesiastes 7:24 That which is far off, and exceeding deep, who can find it out?
    Ecclesiastes 7:25 I applied mine heart to know, and to search, and to seek out wisdom, and the reason of things, and to know the wickedness of folly, even of foolishness and madness:
    Isaiah 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

  • @KeepingWatch95
    @KeepingWatch95 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wikipedia ; *Divide and rule* (from Latin dīvide et imperā), *or divide and conquer,* in politics and sociology is *gaining and maintaining power by breaking up larger concentrations of power* into pieces that individually have less power than the one implementing the strategy. The concept refers to a strategy that breaks up existing power structures, and especially prevents smaller power groups from linking up, causing rivalries and fomenting discord among the people. It was heavily used by British Empire in India and elsewhere

  • @BaptistChristians
    @BaptistChristians 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Normally you would think that too." ~ Kim lol.

  • @flowerchild777
    @flowerchild777 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well taught as usual. Bless your heart

  • @lifewithchrist4107
    @lifewithchrist4107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pastor learn more, study more before you present something!

  • @hereticus40
    @hereticus40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With all due respect, Brother, I don’t know how it could be any plainer that they are two different kingdoms. There was only one kingdom preached in the OT, and it wasn’t a mystery to anyone. Every prophet except Jonah preached about the Jewish messiah coming to set up THE kingdom. But in Mark 4:11 Jesus says “...unto you it is given to know the MYSTERY of the kingdom of God; but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables.” A mystery is something that wasn’t revealed in the OT. Everyone in Israel knew about THE kingdom, but now Jesus reveals a kingdom they knew nothing about. So two kingdoms - a kingdom that was preached and expected since David, and a mystery kingdom, revealed by Jesus early in Mark. Diligent study reveals one to be the kingdom of heaven and the other to be the kingdom of God.
    Luke 17:21 says “the kingdom of God is within you.” But Israel was always promised a literal visible physical brick-and-mortar kingdom.
    And Romans 14:17 says the kingdom of God is righteous, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. But that kingdom of heaven promised Israel is anything but peaceful! Just read about David’s life, trying yo set up that kingdom. War, swords, thousands killed, dust, blood. Anything but peaceful!
    Sounds like two different kingdoms to me, in my humble opinion.

    • @saltlight7487
      @saltlight7487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matthew 21:42Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
      It’s the same kingdom, it’s bc the Jews rejected Jesus that the kingdom was taken from them. We have to accept Christ and bare fruit. At that time, many Jews rejected this, and still today. The jews who accepted Christ were his disciples and they spread the kingdom to other Jews and nations, who are the church. Quite amazing what God did and continues to do. The kingdom is growing! It is the Lords doing and it is marvelous in my eyes.

    • @s981318
      @s981318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen brother. From what I learnt, The Lord not only wanted to fulfill the promise of giving the Kingdom of Heaven to the Jews, He also offered the Kingdom of God to them too. That's why in the gospels both kingdoms were preached.
      We Christians are in thr Kingdom of God now, because the Holy Spirit in us is already sitting with the Lord Jesus in heavenly place.
      The Kingdom of Heaven on the other hand is the millennium kingdom of Christ yet to come.

    • @hereticus40
      @hereticus40 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@s981318 sounds like you are learning right. Keep up the good work. : )

  • @bethclay6800
    @bethclay6800 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They make my brain bubble...

  • @dlotroxx
    @dlotroxx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Compare the statements made at 9:02 - 9:08 and 13:20 -13:28.

  • @richardhinson8409
    @richardhinson8409 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God
    So scripture tells us if your not born again you cannot see the kingdom of God
    But Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force
    Some one has some explaining to do if they are the same

  • @michaelolivero3400
    @michaelolivero3400 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st of all pretribulation theology is paulian and is correct andersonites hate pre tribulation doctrine because he can’t get over the fact that after the tribulation film is false taking away your blesssed hope.be consistent your self

  • @willywonkalucretia
    @willywonkalucretia 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with the video, but I ask how important is this? Even if they are Twain, it actually has zero effect on living for the cause of Christ. Nothing here is critical doctrine. Maybe in some ways it's serious, and I'm not understanding yet.

    • @GiveMeLibertyBaptist
      @GiveMeLibertyBaptist  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I didnt get into all the heresy that comes with teaching two kingdoms. It is very important because this little mistake they make leads to many other dangerous things.

    • @willywonkalucretia
      @willywonkalucretia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL I'm thankful for the video and thanks for the reply.

    • @preacherrob
      @preacherrob 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's important because when the anti-christ sits in the temple pretending to be God, the "deceived" will believe that he is God . 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6

  • @erickb8435
    @erickb8435 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job, but it is John 3: 5-6 and not 4:5-6.

  • @CassieRaeMcMurtry
    @CassieRaeMcMurtry 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great job. I loved the part showing how the rapture comes after the Mark of the Beast.

    • @youngnixx88788
      @youngnixx88788 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So are you saying eternal security is a lie?

    • @CassieRaeMcMurtry
      @CassieRaeMcMurtry 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@youngnixx88788 No.

    • @CassieRaeMcMurtry
      @CassieRaeMcMurtry 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@youngnixx88788 Matthew 24:24 King James Version (KJV)
      24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect
      "IF it were possible." If you are one of the elect, you won't be deceived. Yet another reason we need to dispel the pre trib fairy tale. Christians will know to be prepared to reject the mark. If you are one of the elect, you won't take the mark... you won't be deceived. Simple.

    • @youngnixx88788
      @youngnixx88788 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CassieRaeMcMurtry
      I you're saying a born again Christian can take the mark and still go to Heaven....ok🤦‍♂️

    • @CassieRaeMcMurtry
      @CassieRaeMcMurtry 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@youngnixx88788 Did I say that? No. I said...if you are one of the elect, you WILL NOT TAKE THE MARK. Learn how to read and stop making up stuff I didn't say. You must be a Ruckmanite. Those are the tactics they use.