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There is a youtube channel called Miyconst that does a LOT of x99 knock off board reviews that has a review of this specific board. I believe you have to OC in windows with XTU to get it anywhere because of the power limit being something that windows initializes on these boards.
This doesn't fix the TDP issue, but have you considered under-volting to get a higher clock speed? I didn't see you try Intel extreme tuning utility, that can do things the bios can't a lot of the time. Maybe you could try Throttle-stop? Throttle-stop is usually for under volting laptops, but it's a very deep tool and it does have to ability to modify C-states...
Yes! I am far from an expert and have limited OC and BIOS modding knowledge. Especially the later. I was able to Turbo-Unlock the HuananZhi X99TF paired with an E5-2678V3 by modding the BIOS using Miyconst's step by step tutorial and tool-kit. Took me 20 minutes and it worked on the first try. Best damn PC tutorial I have ever had the pleasure of using.
All these X99 boards are indeed hard limited to a max of 140 watts. If you find a way around it, you will likely smoke the motherboard as VRMs/power delivery are not designed to go higher. If you want to go safely higher, you need a new board. But, the results you were getting is excellent nonetheless
Xeon E5 enthusiasts care about getting a lot for little investment, so it makes sense that they'd also put effort into giving lots of info even though they have a small audience. Miyconst is another small youtuber (only 6K subs) who makes great content about these chinese motherboards and xeon CPUs.
ouch. there are tons of smaller channels (even ones with 10x less subscribers) that produce great content. not having a lot of subscribers =/= being stupid.
I picked up a Chinese x99 board back in March from Aliexpress...believe it was the x99z v102 or something like that. I had a spare E5-2620 v3 that I dropped in, 4 sticks of 8gb ECC ram, and a 512gb NVME m.2. This thing has been absolutely rock solid for 6 months running unraid with a 5 disk array. Even handles GPU passthrough no problem with correct IOMMU groupings. Haven't tried overclocking it at all but for the use case, I honestly don't have a need.
Man you got me in the feels when you thought you'd bricked it. I'm sure we have all been there but you could feel the feeling of dread. Also really enjoyed the little cuts in editing in moment to moment between hoping for it to post. Nice one.
Ah yes, another chinese motherboard video. THANK YOU! I was the random weirdo who told you about the aliexpress build I was doing on one of your past streams lol
I don't see it as a failure, Great content, encourages viewer involvement, is relatable to all skill levels of builders [ if you haven't bricked hardware your not trying ], add the adult beverages
I really don't know why he isn't using it, I've overclocked x79 xeons on locked motherboards and it's what I use exclusively for my x99 overclocking despite having an unlocked mbo
I have the X99-TF, same board with DDR3 support. I can manage a 1650v3 up to 4.6ghz, but tbe voltage controls get wonky if i go over 1.4v. ThrottleStop can bypass the TDP limit but the limit breaks itself all the time anyway lol. Im running a modded Russian bios from Github that opens up the bios a lot, but a lot of the new options don't work (like the BLK clock options). Custom splash screen tho. Also the RAM voltage is completely borked as far as I can tell, so 1.2v is your lot. Can manage 2400mhz (limit with unlocked chips on these Chinese boards) @12-11-11-24.
@@themanthemyththelegend1392 I was running it in a crusty, Chinese parts water loop so I had thermal headroom to spare. Good for the chip? Hell no. Fun for some benchmarking? Absolutely.
@@CraftComputing It's literally the top Google search result but I guess that's about as difficult as installing the radiator correctly. You have some great videos but it''s important to do a little research. Some first time PC builder will copy this and wonder why he's having issues LOL
My point was, did you actually learn anything from the video, or are you just repeating "Don't install tubes up!!!!"? Because the only issue with this orientation is it may lead to hearing water trickle, and some people find it annoying. The pump is not at the top of the loop, which was the primary issue discussed in the video. And besides that, how else would I mount a radiator in this case? This is literally the only option available.
In this motherboard the modified bios with turbo unlock works only with 26xx v3 CPUs that is why changing of the CPU to 2680 helped. On thees motherboards the only way to override the TDP limitation is to upload the modified turbo unlock driver with undervolting (only the 26xx CPUs). The changing in bios or using the intell ETU - does not change anything.
The turbo unlock doesn't modify the short and long term turbo duration nor limits. I have a similar board with a 2673v3 and I'm stuck at 85W (I bought a low TDP part on purpose, I just was playing around with it). The BIOS should let you play with the duration, but it fails with the limits. It's a BIOS issue, they are all more or less the same. You could try with Intel XTU, but your mileage may vary.
You can always software OC it using the intel extreme tuning utility. I have an HP Z620 and I have my E5-1650 V2 pushing 4.4Ghz all core. I did upgrade to a better air cooler.
Great video Jef, I'm a relatively new subscriber but I like your style of videos. Nice and refreshing to have another channel besides the really big ones. Keep up the good job!
The Xeon chips (at least E5-v3) are locked w.r.t. powerconsumption, and thus the chips wont consume more than that. The all core turbo made a substantiel difference on my dual E5-2670 v3 setup, even if they dont consume more than the 120W.
Not sure about this statement. On Miyconst channel he was able to achieve 4.2 Ghz on the X99TF, which uses the same BIOS as the F8 in this video. It is an E5-1660V3 in that video, but the ability to get to this level is certainly possible. On an MSI motherboard (engineering sample via AliEx) he was able to achieve 4.3Ghz. Of course, at these levels the TF's VRM did go to a toasty 70C. Always best to put an aftermarket fan (80-90mm) on the VRM's when OC'ing Chinese motherboards, for safe measure. What is also metnioned by Miyconst...if you have a BIOS where microcode has been removed to achieve the turbo-unlock...you will NOT be able to overclock. IMO.
Huanzhi have probably hardware locked it in order to secure the reliability of the board and the mosfets. As all of these chinese boards don't have oc capabilities out of the box without modding. I know that oc is a big thing. But 3ghz from a 12 core will still keep you happy in games and even 3.5ghz from an 8 core. I've been watching these boards for about a year now on AliExpress reading feedbacks left from buyers and they are good new boards for old CPUs that will keep anyone happy. 😁
@@luisfernando55 Google is your friend! Its the x99 chipset or probably something else whit these manufacturers but it supports 2011-3 cpu's. Definitely go and check them out on aliexpress. You can ask the sellers questions there as well
"But 3ghz from a 12 core will still keep you happy in games" For gaming you'd probably be better off buying a Ryzen 5 or Core i5 CPU. 3GHz isn't great, especially in DX11 and other older APIs that can't use more than 4 cores efficiently. The 2678v3 is an amazing budget workstation CPU, and can still run games if you want it to, but isn't the best choice if gaming is your primary use case.
The Macube 550 is the same case I use, I have it in white. Love it! The only thing I did different from your setup for airflow is I have the fans on my rad on the side profile there pull in air from the side vents, and exhaust from the back. Lovely case, my 2700x max has ever hit 72c.
Funny this just showed up. I recently got a Jingsha X99 Dual F2. People talk about the bios in the Chinese boards but I have never seen so many options. I don't know if they left a dev one on it or if every option works with the board but I am sure it can do a lot more as soon as I figure it out and have the nerve to try it.
Would be interesting how an undervolt would work on this if the turbo values do work. Would bring the TDP down a bit making higher turbo before hitting limits?
For those that want to get into the BIOS flashing game either on Motherboards, Video cards or anything else really. If you are new to the game make sure you purchase a product with a dual bios. That way you can go ham and do anything you can think of and if it bricks swap to your 2nd bios and flash your first bios back to normal and try again! This helped a lot for my 1080ti. Right now I'm using a Inno 3d vbios and I wouldn't of even thought of flashing it if I didn't have a dual bios.
Not sure if this helps but I know from my E5 2678 V3 hitting it with heavy avx workloads like cinebench causes the all core turbo to drop due to the tdp limit. If you use CPU z to either bench or stress CPU you can usually see it hit it's max turbo. So in theory using CPU z to validate the overclock with hw monitor might help. Also in games it will hit it's max frequency too I tested using tomb raider. I am not aware of a way to remove the tdp limit which when you run avx heavy workloads limits the max frequency.
Cool video. I have a 5820K and X99 system that won't boot. Not worth the money to pick up spare parts for troubleshooting at the moment. But eventually I'd like to pic up ali Express X99 mono and a couple cpus on the cheap to make a file server out of or something
I've had no trouble unlocking the All-Core-Turbo on my 2678 V3 with a Huananzhi X99-TF which is nearly the same as yours. But undervolting is a must to get all cores to run at 3.3 Ghz under load (my sample takes -50 mV just fine). Windows runs mostly fine on the newest releases also with the unmodified C6-entries but I had some trouble installing Linux where it hangs during the installation with these enabled. But I have seen a strange issue with an Intel i350 network card and PCIe errors popping up, it turns out that you need a workaround (pcie=nommconf) because X99 has some trouble with some BIOSes (that is with a Jingsha X99 D8D3 which I bought as an alternative to test - maybe the BIOS of the Hunanazhi boards already have the fix).
I know that feeling, desperately tapping the bios entry key, praying if you keep tapping it just might work.... And the "woohoo" after clearing cmos....yeah totally been there.
TDP seems to be a hard limit...so an undervolt offset may help increase the CPU freq. Else, a BLCK increase...which is not usually possible with the Chinese MB bios.
after this procedure i got black screen, cannot access the bios, and if i let pc boot, the display turn on just when we are on windows screen, i have no possibility to open bios before, or any boot, please help mm, i try to flash back original .bin image, but i got an error that bios have write protection enabled, before this operation this was not enabled, i need to back my original flash to the bios, how i can unlock it?
I felt that anxiety kicking in, when you flashed the bios. Just FYI, you can flash the bios chip with an raspberry pi and clamp/wires directly to the bios chip, if something goes wrong.
The solution is : undervolt + disabling some of the cores. You'll get some nice singe core results and gaming fps with this. TDP can't be touched, it's tied to the CPU itself ;)
It actually can be modified. the bios limits it to the tdp of 140w. even if you add voltage to that the tdp will not change because bios wont allow it to until you mod it. You can always change the tdp of a processor if it has voltage control some guys push these chips to 4.4ghz+ they are definitely not doing it off the stock 140w tdp
I don't think the TDP can be bypassed on the 3rd gen Xeon chips sadly. Even if you enable all-core turbo, once the turboboost times out you are TDP-bound.
my friend ,i have an atermiter x99 mobo with a xeon e5 2678 v3(it is the same e5 2680 v3 but with better memory controller) and with the all core turbo, i have reached to unlock the tdp to 150w and it eats them!! I had an option of the tdp in the bios,just check the socket 0 configuration
For people having the same problem. Unlocked x99 CPUs don't work with turbo boost unlock bios flash on most Chinese X99 motherboards. Turbo boost unlock is for locked Xeons.
Its pretty cool that these boards are starting to catch people's attention bc in been interested in them but all the vids are in Russian or Chinese and I want to know more about them
If anyone still watching this: Will this board run regular decktop memory? Or is it ECC only? In the AliExpress ad it states: 'Memory type supported: non-ecc/reg ecc/ecc' but I'm not sure what its telling me.
Please create SFF PC with Dual X79 Lite. That elongated weird MATX board is fantastically compact for dual processor. This board can fit in Cooler Master NR200
Jeff, have you tried the Throttle Spot application? just wondering if it will work with these Chinese mb... I haven't tried the app., but I have seen videos of it working on laptops.. lmk.. thanks jd
Could something like the Elmor eVc help. Not sure if the voltage controller uses i2c but it's with a search. Find the controller, identify it and look up it's data sheet then see if it uses i2c, if it does you can hook up the eVc and adjust whatever you want.
The Xeon processors have their TDP locked internally. You can play with the core voltage setting trying to drop the power at a given frequency. Some chips will work at lower voltages when overclocking. Some will not. I am running a 1680 v3 in an HP Z440 at 4.1 GHz. I have had it 4.4 GHz but it wasn't stable. 4.1 GHz and a 1080 ti is more than enough for Fortnite and that is all I really play (and chess). I am sure someone said this in here but.... I am not going to read all 291 comments.
Just a heads up, the all core turbo unlock doesn't help with TDP limits. I'm using an Asrock X99 board and my 2690v3 drops 100MHz when running cinebench to keep to it's TDP limit. But whilst gaming I will still see 3.5Ghz on all 12 cores. I'd suggest you want to look at Throttlestop, Intel XTU or quickCPU to try and remove TDP limits.
Pencil mod the CPU VRM shunts? There is a multiplier set for the current somewhere in the BIOS, manufacturer sets the scale from the shunt voltage to sense current (ie sets the what the bios believes is the shunt resistance). If you can find someone that knows where that is you should be golden (or let the smoke out - either makes a good video XD)
Intel XTU is the answere you can increse TDP in it. I could do it even on chepest LGA1150 MB with i3-4170. It wasn't usefule at all but the option was unlocked
Hi for me the problem is you have deleted the cpu microcode in mmtool, this is normal the motherboard dont boot anymore with the main cpu you wanted to boost because the board need this to recognize the cpu. Sorry for my bad english, Julien.
Maybe there is a bit more power possible. At least on a MSI-board, maybe it's possible on your board as following: Open your .bin file in AMIBCP and search for the folder "DigitAll Power" inside the folder "Overclocking". Inside that, there is "CPU Over Current Protection". Change Optimal Auto->150%, save and flash it. Load the optimal settings inside the BIOS. Then, the CPU "thinks" he is consuming less power, the factor is 1/1.5. You can see that through the tool "CPU Temp" for example. On me, the TDP grows up from 135W to 145W. Before that, the CPU goes down from 145W after a few seconds to 135W TDP, now he can stay on 145W unlimited.
You can try to do a physical mod. Adding a resistor to the VRM power reporting line might do the trick. Idk how to do it I only know that its possible! Be aware that hardware info will report a completely wrong power usage and this kind of mod is extremely risk if you don't know what your are doing. Those mods were usually done by people chasing world record under LN2. They are no longer need to do those mods because MB manufactures now have extremely high end boards design for them.
When I start the pc I hear a long beep followed by five short beeps, the pc turns on and the peripherals also do not give a signal, what is my problem?
Not really sure what to say to this. I have an 18 core 2011 V3 running in this exact same board, and it performs almost or better than a 9th gen i9. Every game I play is 144 FPS plus on near max settings. My only critique of this board is the tiny little fans on the top are terrible, and I have to replace them with something quieter. It powers the cpu to its full potential and more.
Is there a BCLK somewhere in this boards bios? I have a 2680 v4 that I'm trying to squeeze just a little more out of in this board and I'm lost finding the base clock.
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There is a youtube channel called Miyconst that does a LOT of x99 knock off board reviews that has a review of this specific board. I believe you have to OC in windows with XTU to get it anywhere because of the power limit being something that windows initializes on these boards.
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This doesn't fix the TDP issue, but have you considered under-volting to get a higher clock speed? I didn't see you try Intel extreme tuning utility, that can do things the bios can't a lot of the time. Maybe you could try Throttle-stop? Throttle-stop is usually for under volting laptops, but it's a very deep tool and it does have to ability to modify C-states...
Few people mentioned it but Miyconst has a bunch of videos on these boards, he is the x99 master.
Despite of all its shortcomings, that is a good looking motherboard
Except it says "GAMEING" in one place (though they managed to spell it "GAMING" elsewhere). That alone would annoy me no end.
@@rednammoc It seems to have been corrected in newer motherboards.
That b-roll music was lit.
Lit af
15:17 Ask Miyconst channel about that powerlimit. He reviews these motherboards and turbo unlocks them.
Up up up
Yes! I am far from an expert and have limited OC and BIOS modding knowledge. Especially the later. I was able to Turbo-Unlock the HuananZhi X99TF paired with an E5-2678V3 by modding the BIOS using Miyconst's step by step tutorial and tool-kit. Took me 20 minutes and it worked on the first try. Best damn PC tutorial I have ever had the pleasure of using.
All these X99 boards are indeed hard limited to a max of 140 watts. If you find a way around it, you will likely smoke the motherboard as VRMs/power delivery are not designed to go higher. If you want to go safely higher, you need a new board. But, the results you were getting is excellent nonetheless
That mobo actually looks really nice. I hope there is a follow up with the power limit eradicated
I'm amazed that such a relatively small channel can produce content this good
Get to know me, I'm amazing 😉
Xeon E5 enthusiasts care about getting a lot for little investment, so it makes sense that they'd also put effort into giving lots of info even though they have a small audience. Miyconst is another small youtuber (only 6K subs) who makes great content about these chinese motherboards and xeon CPUs.
ouch. there are tons of smaller channels (even ones with 10x less subscribers) that produce great content. not having a lot of subscribers =/= being stupid.
@@CraftComputing also modest ;)
@@nathangamble125miyconst 26k now 😊
I picked up a Chinese x99 board back in March from Aliexpress...believe it was the x99z v102 or something like that. I had a spare E5-2620 v3 that I dropped in, 4 sticks of 8gb ECC ram, and a 512gb NVME m.2. This thing has been absolutely rock solid for 6 months running unraid with a 5 disk array. Even handles GPU passthrough no problem with correct IOMMU groupings. Haven't tried overclocking it at all but for the use case, I honestly don't have a need.
What board did you get? Im looking for the correct IOMMU groupings.
@@Angryfuture x99z v102 from aliexpress
3:37 - Ah, the kitteh rule of life: If I fits I sits...
Man you got me in the feels when you thought you'd bricked it. I'm sure we have all been there but you could feel the feeling of dread. Also really enjoyed the little cuts in editing in moment to moment between hoping for it to post. Nice one.
hold on Lexar is still a thing? and they make NVMe drives now? and they're sponsoring Craft Computing? cool :D
Ah yes, another chinese motherboard video. THANK YOU! I was the random weirdo who told you about the aliexpress build I was doing on one of your past streams lol
Awesome video, despite the failure. My hat off to you for posting it anyway! That build + b-roll montage was awesome!
I don't see it as a failure, Great content, encourages viewer involvement, is relatable to all skill levels of builders [ if you haven't bricked hardware your not trying ], add the adult beverages
Having bricked a board myself before messing with BIOS I felt your heart dropping.
Rambo must love all of the boxes you have.
Any luck on Intel XTU's Advanced Tuning menu?
I really don't know why he isn't using it, I've overclocked x79 xeons on locked motherboards and it's what I use exclusively for my x99 overclocking despite having an unlocked mbo
I would also at least try XTU to change the TDP limit
@@charlesturner897 only trouble is xtundoesnt open with start up
The background music sounded like it was from a 1970's TV detective show.
I have the X99-TF, same board with DDR3 support. I can manage a 1650v3 up to 4.6ghz, but tbe voltage controls get wonky if i go over 1.4v. ThrottleStop can bypass the TDP limit but the limit breaks itself all the time anyway lol. Im running a modded Russian bios from Github that opens up the bios a lot, but a lot of the new options don't work (like the BLK clock options). Custom splash screen tho. Also the RAM voltage is completely borked as far as I can tell, so 1.2v is your lot. Can manage 2400mhz (limit with unlocked chips on these Chinese boards) @12-11-11-24.
1.4 Lol..........
@@themanthemyththelegend1392 I was running it in a crusty, Chinese parts water loop so I had thermal headroom to spare. Good for the chip? Hell no. Fun for some benchmarking? Absolutely.
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Define incorrectly mounted?
@@OjStudios Gamers Nexus does a great video on how to install them.
He asked you to define your criticism. So let's hear it.
@@CraftComputing It's literally the top Google search result but I guess that's about as difficult as installing the radiator correctly. You have some great videos but it''s important to do a little research. Some first time PC builder will copy this and wonder why he's having issues LOL
My point was, did you actually learn anything from the video, or are you just repeating "Don't install tubes up!!!!"?
Because the only issue with this orientation is it may lead to hearing water trickle, and some people find it annoying. The pump is not at the top of the loop, which was the primary issue discussed in the video.
And besides that, how else would I mount a radiator in this case? This is literally the only option available.
In this motherboard the modified bios with turbo unlock works only with 26xx v3 CPUs that is why changing of the CPU to 2680 helped. On thees motherboards the only way to override the TDP limitation is to upload the modified turbo unlock driver with undervolting (only the 26xx CPUs). The changing in bios or using the intell ETU - does not change anything.
Oh thats such a good beer
Looking information about this motherboard, looks good for a containers home server.
This greens cables are beautines in his pure state
The turbo unlock doesn't modify the short and long term turbo duration nor limits. I have a similar board with a 2673v3 and I'm stuck at 85W (I bought a low TDP part on purpose, I just was playing around with it). The BIOS should let you play with the duration, but it fails with the limits. It's a BIOS issue, they are all more or less the same. You could try with Intel XTU, but your mileage may vary.
The kitty part of your videos is always my favorite part
You can always software OC it using the intel extreme tuning utility. I have an HP Z620 and I have my E5-1650 V2 pushing 4.4Ghz all core. I did upgrade to a better air cooler.
Would you mind telling me how I have a 1620 v2 on a z420 and have never been able to get xtu or throttle stop to work properly.
@@max6833 do you have the newest bios? I just set the clocks and hit apply. Stable at 4.4.
Great video Jef, I'm a relatively new subscriber but I like your style of videos. Nice and refreshing to have another channel besides the really big ones. Keep up the good job!
The Xeon chips (at least E5-v3) are locked w.r.t. powerconsumption, and thus the chips wont consume more than that.
The all core turbo made a substantiel difference on my dual E5-2670 v3 setup, even if they dont consume more than the 120W.
It would be an interesting plot twist if the limiting was done by the CPU and not the motherboard.
@@Tuulos that is exactly what i am saying is the case
This is true, all Xeon E5 V3 CPUs reduce the clock speed to stay within the TDP.
@@kellydaniels534 And that's why I had to reduce Vcore down to .85 to fit into CPU's TDP and still keep 3.3GHz boost on all cores under load.
Not sure about this statement. On Miyconst channel he was able to achieve 4.2 Ghz on the X99TF, which uses the same BIOS as the F8 in this video. It is an E5-1660V3 in that video, but the ability to get to this level is certainly possible. On an MSI motherboard (engineering sample via AliEx) he was able to achieve 4.3Ghz. Of course, at these levels the TF's VRM did go to a toasty 70C. Always best to put an aftermarket fan (80-90mm) on the VRM's when OC'ing Chinese motherboards, for safe measure. What is also metnioned by Miyconst...if you have a BIOS where microcode has been removed to achieve the turbo-unlock...you will NOT be able to overclock.
IMO.
Huanzhi have probably hardware locked it in order to secure the reliability of the board and the mosfets. As all of these chinese boards don't have oc capabilities out of the box without modding. I know that oc is a big thing. But 3ghz from a 12 core will still keep you happy in games and even 3.5ghz from an 8 core. I've been watching these boards for about a year now on AliExpress reading feedbacks left from buyers and they are good new boards for old CPUs that will keep anyone happy. 😁
For which socket and generation is this motherboardb?
@@luisfernando55 Google is your friend! Its the x99 chipset or probably something else whit these manufacturers but it supports 2011-3 cpu's. Definitely go and check them out on aliexpress. You can ask the sellers questions there as well
"But 3ghz from a 12 core will still keep you happy in games"
For gaming you'd probably be better off buying a Ryzen 5 or Core i5 CPU. 3GHz isn't great, especially in DX11 and other older APIs that can't use more than 4 cores efficiently. The 2678v3 is an amazing budget workstation CPU, and can still run games if you want it to, but isn't the best choice if gaming is your primary use case.
The Macube 550 is the same case I use, I have it in white. Love it! The only thing I did different from your setup for airflow is I have the fans on my rad on the side profile there pull in air from the side vents, and exhaust from the back. Lovely case, my 2700x max has ever hit 72c.
New subscriber here. I love, no, im obsessed with xeon builds and Chinese motherboards
The chapter titles for this video are great candidates for replacing the stages of grief.
Funny this just showed up. I recently got a Jingsha X99 Dual F2. People talk about the bios in the Chinese boards but I have never seen so many options. I don't know if they left a dev one on it or if every option works with the board but I am sure it can do a lot more as soon as I figure it out and have the nerve to try it.
Would be interesting how an undervolt would work on this if the turbo values do work. Would bring the TDP down a bit making higher turbo before hitting limits?
For those that want to get into the BIOS flashing game either on Motherboards, Video cards or anything else really. If you are new to the game make sure you purchase a product with a dual bios. That way you can go ham and do anything you can think of and if it bricks swap to your 2nd bios and flash your first bios back to normal and try again! This helped a lot for my 1080ti. Right now I'm using a Inno 3d vbios and I wouldn't of even thought of flashing it if I didn't have a dual bios.
Ronnie James Dio approves of the beer.
Like the eyes of a cat in the black and blue.
Not sure if this helps but I know from my E5 2678 V3 hitting it with heavy avx workloads like cinebench causes the all core turbo to drop due to the tdp limit. If you use CPU z to either bench or stress CPU you can usually see it hit it's max turbo. So in theory using CPU z to validate the overclock with hw monitor might help. Also in games it will hit it's max frequency too I tested using tomb raider. I am not aware of a way to remove the tdp limit which when you run avx heavy workloads limits the max frequency.
Cool video. I have a 5820K and X99 system that won't boot. Not worth the money to pick up spare parts for troubleshooting at the moment. But eventually I'd like to pic up ali Express X99 mono and a couple cpus on the cheap to make a file server out of or something
Is there a way to change the TDP rate of a CPU?
Have you tried throttlestop?
@Lemur Monkey Is it worth it?
I've had no trouble unlocking the All-Core-Turbo on my 2678 V3 with a Huananzhi X99-TF which is nearly the same as yours. But undervolting is a must to get all cores to run at 3.3 Ghz under load (my sample takes -50 mV just fine). Windows runs mostly fine on the newest releases also with the unmodified C6-entries but I had some trouble installing Linux where it hangs during the installation with these enabled. But I have seen a strange issue with an Intel i350 network card and PCIe errors popping up, it turns out that you need a workaround (pcie=nommconf) because X99 has some trouble with some BIOSes (that is with a Jingsha X99 D8D3 which I bought as an alternative to test - maybe the BIOS of the Hunanazhi boards already have the fix).
Nice video, this reminds me of AMD telling that it wasn't gonna be possible the upgrade for the bios in the b450 motherboards
I know that feeling, desperately tapping the bios entry key, praying if you keep tapping it just might work.... And the "woohoo" after clearing cmos....yeah totally been there.
TDP seems to be a hard limit...so an undervolt offset may help increase the CPU freq. Else, a BLCK increase...which is not usually possible with the Chinese MB bios.
Have you tried Throttlestop?
I like your unique style, with the drinks, take my like
Why do I already see a soldering iron ripping of sense resistors? :D
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What was the point of deleting the microcode?
Win some...lose some... Nice build Jeff
this guy gets it.
after this procedure i got black screen, cannot access the bios, and if i let pc boot, the display turn on just when we are on windows screen, i have no possibility to open bios before, or any boot, please help mm, i try to flash back original .bin image, but i got an error that bios have write protection enabled, before this operation this was not enabled, i need to back my original flash to the bios, how i can unlock it?
I felt that anxiety kicking in, when you flashed the bios. Just FYI, you can flash the bios chip with an raspberry pi and clamp/wires directly to the bios chip, if something goes wrong.
The solution is : undervolt + disabling some of the cores. You'll get some nice singe core results and gaming fps with this.
TDP can't be touched, it's tied to the CPU itself ;)
It actually can be modified. the bios limits it to the tdp of 140w. even if you add voltage to that the tdp will not change because bios wont allow it to until you mod it. You can always change the tdp of a processor if it has voltage control some guys push these chips to 4.4ghz+ they are definitely not doing it off the stock 140w tdp
Overclocking on an aliexpress x99! What could go wrong?!
Not just overclocking. That went fine. Flashing the BIOS with a custom BIOS is what caused problems
Exactly... I'm holding up on my build now. ending with a few sips of my copper still whiskey
I love the way u stack the ram
I don't think the TDP can be bypassed on the 3rd gen Xeon chips sadly. Even if you enable all-core turbo, once the turboboost times out you are TDP-bound.
Thank you! I think you’re right, as I have a 1680 v2 that can be clocked to 4.5 no issue, but all the v3 benchmarks I’ve been seeing haven’t improved.
Fantastic music choises!
Where is the link!?
ill still buy that board thanks bro
my friend ,i have an atermiter x99 mobo with a xeon e5 2678 v3(it is the same e5 2680 v3 but with better memory controller) and with the all core turbo, i have reached to unlock the tdp to 150w and it eats them!! I had an option of the tdp in the bios,just check the socket 0 configuration
My go to fans as well
For people having the same problem. Unlocked x99 CPUs don't work with turbo boost unlock bios flash on most Chinese X99 motherboards.
Turbo boost unlock is for locked Xeons.
Quick question. I am not planning on overclocking at all but would this board be suitable for a E5-2697 or E5-2699 V3?
Its pretty cool that these boards are starting to catch people's attention bc in been interested in them but all the vids are in Russian or Chinese and I want to know more about them
If anyone still watching this: Will this board run regular decktop memory? Or is it ECC only? In the AliExpress ad it states: 'Memory type supported: non-ecc/reg ecc/ecc' but I'm not sure what its telling me.
with xtu are possible up the tdp
Please help! How to unlock z10pa d8c. Thanks
🤔 Is there room at the top of the case to mount the radiator? That was the pump is at the lowest point.
Would throttlestop work by chance. I know throttlestop can set msr registers to disable or alter power limits
Please create SFF PC with Dual X79 Lite. That elongated weird MATX board is fantastically compact for dual processor. This board can fit in Cooler Master NR200
I was looking at that board yesterday 🤣
Jeff, have you tried the Throttle Spot application? just wondering if it will work with these Chinese mb... I haven't tried the app., but I have seen videos of it working on laptops.. lmk.. thanks jd
Could something like the Elmor eVc help. Not sure if the voltage controller uses i2c but it's with a search.
Find the controller, identify it and look up it's data sheet then see if it uses i2c, if it does you can hook up the eVc and adjust whatever you want.
The Xeon processors have their TDP locked internally. You can play with the core voltage setting trying to drop the power at a given frequency. Some chips will work at lower voltages when overclocking. Some will not. I am running a 1680 v3 in an HP Z440 at 4.1 GHz. I have had it 4.4 GHz but it wasn't stable. 4.1 GHz and a 1080 ti is more than enough for Fortnite and that is all I really play (and chess). I am sure someone said this in here but.... I am not going to read all 291 comments.
Holy thermal paste batman the verge would be proud 😂👍👌
He did not use any tweezers, nor a swiss army knife that might have a screwdriver. The verge would not be proud.
@@rdsii64 Hahaha!👍
Great Job Jeff. I'm really not a fan of those boards but for the price it could be fun. LOL
Just a heads up, the all core turbo unlock doesn't help with TDP limits. I'm using an Asrock X99 board and my 2690v3 drops 100MHz when running cinebench to keep to it's TDP limit. But whilst gaming I will still see 3.5Ghz on all 12 cores.
I'd suggest you want to look at Throttlestop, Intel XTU or quickCPU to try and remove TDP limits.
I do think Intel Xeon e5 26XX ES has some problems with EFI BIOS
Please do a follow up.
Pencil mod the CPU VRM shunts?
There is a multiplier set for the current somewhere in the BIOS, manufacturer sets the scale from the shunt voltage to sense current (ie sets the what the bios believes is the shunt resistance). If you can find someone that knows where that is you should be golden (or let the smoke out - either makes a good video XD)
ThrottleStop unlocks cpus even with non-overclock boards, with cpu that can be overclocked by multiplier
Intel XTU is the answere you can increse TDP in it. I could do it even on chepest LGA1150 MB with i3-4170. It wasn't usefule at all but the option was unlocked
Do you not need an ECC dim?
PCCooler's Corona and Halo rgb fans are really cool, you should try 'em out on a build!
Hi for me the problem is you have deleted the cpu microcode in mmtool, this is normal the motherboard dont boot anymore with the main cpu you wanted to boost because the board need this to recognize the cpu. Sorry for my bad english, Julien.
I thought the TDP was locked on the Xeons no? Not sure.
I've managed to have 136W for 56 seconds and then 120W on 2678v3. Later on I'll send you pictures of my bios settings.
I've sent you email with screenshots as i don't know how to attached them here
Maybe there is a bit more power possible. At least on a MSI-board, maybe it's possible on your board as following: Open your .bin file in AMIBCP and search for the folder "DigitAll Power" inside the folder "Overclocking". Inside that, there is "CPU Over Current Protection". Change Optimal Auto->150%, save and flash it. Load the optimal settings inside the BIOS. Then, the CPU "thinks" he is consuming less power, the factor is 1/1.5. You can see that through the tool "CPU Temp" for example. On me, the TDP grows up from 135W to 145W. Before that, the CPU goes down from 145W after a few seconds to 135W TDP, now he can stay on 145W unlimited.
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Also I want that beer now
Seriously, go find it. Amazingly good.
You can try to do a physical mod.
Adding a resistor to the VRM power reporting line might do the trick.
Idk how to do it I only know that its possible! Be aware that hardware info will report a completely wrong power usage and this kind of mod is extremely risk if you don't know what your are doing.
Those mods were usually done by people chasing world record under LN2. They are no longer need to do those mods because MB manufactures now have extremely high end boards design for them.
mi domando come fa a vedere le ram non ecc vorrei saperlo se possibile
Erro code , FF in morther board x99-TF ? Help me ?
\m/ Holy Diver \m/ :)
Oh yeah, I know the song too :-)
Bryan was my next call.
When I start the pc I hear a long beep followed by five short beeps, the pc turns on and the peripherals also do not give a signal, what is my problem?
Did you try using Intel xtu?
Maybe you can unlock tdp throught that.
The new version errors on start for me now on an I7 4960. Love the channel and concept behind it Good Luck w/ the bios
Can i install thunderbolt 3 pcie card?
Support or not?
Not really sure what to say to this. I have an 18 core 2011 V3 running in this exact same board, and it performs almost or better than a 9th gen i9. Every game I play is 144 FPS plus on near max settings. My only critique of this board is the tiny little fans on the top are terrible, and I have to replace them with something quieter. It powers the cpu to its full potential and more.
u can use XTU for set what TDP u want.what is the max ram frequency on this board for overclock?
Is there a BCLK somewhere in this boards bios? I have a 2680 v4 that I'm trying to squeeze just a little more out of in this board and I'm lost finding the base clock.
I went out and bought this exact motherboard and CPU combo after watching this....yet I get an FF code on boot. can anyone help me?
Hi, i bypass tdp on laptops using Throttle stop
you are not the first i have seen do that today every one seems to be blowing shit up