I absolutely love that everyone in this comments section completely ignored the point he was actually making in favor of their RW distortions of what Communism is.
@sillybilly904 Victims of what? Capitalism? Do you mean that these "victims" failed to hold their own within the demands of a structure that begins by asking "what does my neighbor need, and how can I provide?" He's not proclaiming "LIBERTY," he's calling for Totalitarianism via the rejects of an altruistic state. He's calling for the powers of hell to rise up against heaven. He calls the demons oppressed and God himself an oppressor. What a twisted reality he designs.
@@nope24601 Pure projection. Your "reality" is one where people die because they can't contribute to a Capitalist society. You're the one with a totalitarian ideology, just in favor of private power instead of the state. Also, he didn't even mention religion, but I do love that you brought it up. Just ignore the fact that there are Christian Socialists and Christian Communists, and the fact that Christianity has some explicitly anti-Capitalist teachings.
@@BenMedia7 If you think Christianity is anti-free-market, you've lost the plot. However, free-market systems (I'm going to stop using your derogatory word, Capitalist), demand that people begin by considering what one's neighbor needs. Then, taking steps to provide for that need. One then decides which person, if any, will receive one's money, time, or barter. People compete to provide for others' needs. That is the free-market approach and it is the most altruistic economy out there. Communist/Socialist economies begin by asking: What does my neighbor have, and do I also want it? It can only reduce rights and drive people into poverty, unless those people are corrupt-as we see time and time again. When Christ says: Give everything you have to the poor and follow me, he was speaking to a man who loved wealth more than God, not just someone who was prosperous.
@@nope24601 The major problem with your argument is that it's very clear you have no actual understanding of Socialism or Communism beyond RW lies and misrepresentations. To quickly define the terms for you: Socialism=The collective, social ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange Communism= A stateless, classless, moneyless society that is based around the common ownership of the means of production Now that that's out of the way, under a Capitalist economy, someone is always inevitably exploited in the interest of someone else's profit. Capitalism doesn't produce anything, labor does. So calling it "altruistic" is incredibly misleading. Especially when the consequences of it are people dying for a lack of food, clean water or medicine because it wasn't profitable enough to provide them with it. Under a Socialist economy, the value of your labor is used in public interest. Again, labor produces everything. Capitalism and Socialism just determine where the value goes. And before talking about how bad and impoverished Socialist countries are/were, I implore to look up a) what they were like BEFORE Socialist revolutions happened and b) what Capitalist countries did to said Socialist countries AFTER their revolutions. As for the religion point, Jesus implores people to sell their possessions and give the money to the poor, to care for the sick and the poor, to be on your guard against greed, etc. Jesus never says "I will only help or heal you if I can make a profit off it" which is what you're advocating for. He also constantly denounces rich people and even early Christians are described as living on what could be considered a commune. Christianity has an anti-Capitalist message that is embraced by many Christians today. People like you co-opt it for your own political agendas. th-cam.com/video/GmPMcWAuuVo/w-d-xo.html
You’re a capitalist? Oh then you must love king Leopold. This is basically your argument. People don’t defend Stalin or Polpots negative actions if they’re serious leftists.
Fun fact: CIA declassified documents admit the "Western portrayal of Stalin as a dictator is greatly exaggerated, and he is much closer to a captain of a team than a master." Second fun fact about Stalin: he tried to resign *four times* but this was rejected by the rest of tye party (including Trotsky) once in 1925, once in 1926, once in 1927 and finally in the 50's only 6 months before his death. This is not something a power hungry dictator would do.
Micahel Parenti always is so clear and powerful with his words. Always standing with the people for justice!
I love the mental gymnastics behind trying to frame fighting for the poor as some kind of long game 4d chess move for power
It's a trillion dollar propaganda machine, of course it works on people.
I absolutely love that everyone in this comments section completely ignored the point he was actually making in favor of their RW distortions of what Communism is.
RW?
@@nope24601 Right-Wing
@@BenMedia7 Ah, I think LW distortions are more prevalent.
@@nope24601 The Right does nothing but lie about and distort what Socialism is. And the Right uses "Communism" to mean anything they don't like.
@@nope24601brother, is it USA or China as the richest country right now?
Happy Birthday 🎂🎉🎈🎁 Michael Parenti, thanks 😊 for sharing your knowledge! Great Intellectual 🧐
A luta continua!
God i love this man!
Lol Henry Kissinger ha
Why appeal to the people? There’s much power in populism
@sillybilly904 What twisted webs we weave when our aim is to deceive.
@sillybilly904what people? All people not living in a communist government? That would have to be every country up until like 1920
@@nope24601 Nice projection bro
@@reedbryan1 And with this one comment, you miss the point.
@@BenMedia7 okay what’s the point? And I’m still wondering what people, I’m in need of enlightenment
Because they play a numbers game for power.
@sillybilly904 Victims of what? Capitalism? Do you mean that these "victims" failed to hold their own within the demands of a structure that begins by asking "what does my neighbor need, and how can I provide?" He's not proclaiming "LIBERTY," he's calling for Totalitarianism via the rejects of an altruistic state. He's calling for the powers of hell to rise up against heaven. He calls the demons oppressed and God himself an oppressor. What a twisted reality he designs.
@@nope24601taks your pills schizo
@@nope24601 Pure projection. Your "reality" is one where people die because they can't contribute to a Capitalist society. You're the one with a totalitarian ideology, just in favor of private power instead of the state.
Also, he didn't even mention religion, but I do love that you brought it up. Just ignore the fact that there are Christian Socialists and Christian Communists, and the fact that Christianity has some explicitly anti-Capitalist teachings.
@@BenMedia7 If you think Christianity is anti-free-market, you've lost the plot. However, free-market systems (I'm going to stop using your derogatory word, Capitalist), demand that people begin by considering what one's neighbor needs. Then, taking steps to provide for that need. One then decides which person, if any, will receive one's money, time, or barter. People compete to provide for others' needs. That is the free-market approach and it is the most altruistic economy out there.
Communist/Socialist economies begin by asking: What does my neighbor have, and do I also want it? It can only reduce rights and drive people into poverty, unless those people are corrupt-as we see time and time again.
When Christ says: Give everything you have to the poor and follow me, he was speaking to a man who loved wealth more than God, not just someone who was prosperous.
@@nope24601 The major problem with your argument is that it's very clear you have no actual understanding of Socialism or Communism beyond RW lies and misrepresentations. To quickly define the terms for you:
Socialism=The collective, social ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange
Communism= A stateless, classless, moneyless society that is based around the common ownership of the means of production
Now that that's out of the way, under a Capitalist economy, someone is always inevitably exploited in the interest of someone else's profit. Capitalism doesn't produce anything, labor does. So calling it "altruistic" is incredibly misleading. Especially when the consequences of it are people dying for a lack of food, clean water or medicine because it wasn't profitable enough to provide them with it.
Under a Socialist economy, the value of your labor is used in public interest. Again, labor produces everything. Capitalism and Socialism just determine where the value goes. And before talking about how bad and impoverished Socialist countries are/were, I implore to look up a) what they were like BEFORE Socialist revolutions happened and b) what Capitalist countries did to said Socialist countries AFTER their revolutions.
As for the religion point, Jesus implores people to sell their possessions and give the money to the poor, to care for the sick and the poor, to be on your guard against greed, etc. Jesus never says "I will only help or heal you if I can make a profit off it" which is what you're advocating for. He also constantly denounces rich people and even early Christians are described as living on what could be considered a commune. Christianity has an anti-Capitalist message that is embraced by many Christians today. People like you co-opt it for your own political agendas.
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So you chose to be little lenins, stalins, castros and polpots?
Good thing he doesn't defend Stalin or Pol Pot.
You’re a capitalist? Oh then you must love king Leopold. This is basically your argument. People don’t defend Stalin or Polpots negative actions if they’re serious leftists.
Fun fact: CIA declassified documents admit the "Western portrayal of Stalin as a dictator is greatly exaggerated, and he is much closer to a captain of a team than a master."
Second fun fact about Stalin: he tried to resign *four times* but this was rejected by the rest of tye party (including Trotsky) once in 1925, once in 1926, once in 1927 and finally in the 50's only 6 months before his death. This is not something a power hungry dictator would do.
@@ProletarianPower shhh the liberals and fascists (as if there's a meaningful difference) don't care about facts
other than pol pot Yeah