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It's a trillion dollar propaganda machine, of course it works on people.

RW?

@@nope24601 Right-Wing

@@BenMedia7 Ah, I think LW distortions are more prevalent.

@@nope24601 The Right does nothing but lie about and distort what Socialism is. And the Right uses "Communism" to mean anything they don't like.

@@nope24601brother, is it USA or China as the richest country right now?

Good thing he doesn't defend Stalin or Pol Pot.

You’re a capitalist? Oh then you must love king Leopold. This is basically your argument. People don’t defend Stalin or Polpots negative actions if they’re serious leftists.

Fun fact: CIA declassified documents admit the "Western portrayal of Stalin as a dictator is greatly exaggerated, and he is much closer to a captain of a team than a master." Second fun fact about Stalin: he tried to resign *four times* but this was rejected by the rest of tye party (including Trotsky) once in 1925, once in 1926, once in 1927 and finally in the 50's only 6 months before his death. This is not something a power hungry dictator would do.

@@ProletarianPower shhh the liberals and fascists (as if there's a meaningful difference) don't care about facts

other than pol pot Yeah

Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society, that eliminates wage labor, provides the products of shared labor post scarcity, has a significant historical cultural revolution, and where the means of production and distribution are held in common either through total direct democracy, agencies, trade unions, an elected government, hell, by the 21st century, there’s probably going to be an infinite amount of ways anything can literally be done. Most likely, in the future, we will democratically decide how to program super computers, and they will run everything

Cuz every communist leader be smoking why else smh

@sillybilly904 Victims of what? Capitalism? Do you mean that these "victims" failed to hold their own within the demands of a structure that begins by asking "what does my neighbor need, and how can I provide?" He's not proclaiming "LIBERTY," he's calling for Totalitarianism via the rejects of an altruistic state. He's calling for the powers of hell to rise up against heaven. He calls the demons oppressed and God himself an oppressor. What a twisted reality he designs.

@@nope24601taks your pills schizo

@@nope24601 Pure projection. Your "reality" is one where people die because they can't contribute to a Capitalist society. You're the one with a totalitarian ideology, just in favor of private power instead of the state. Also, he didn't even mention religion, but I do love that you brought it up. Just ignore the fact that there are Christian Socialists and Christian Communists, and the fact that Christianity has some explicitly anti-Capitalist teachings.

@@BenMedia7 If you think Christianity is anti-free-market, you've lost the plot. However, free-market systems (I'm going to stop using your derogatory word, Capitalist), demand that people begin by considering what one's neighbor needs. Then, taking steps to provide for that need. One then decides which person, if any, will receive one's money, time, or barter. People compete to provide for others' needs. That is the free-market approach and it is the most altruistic economy out there. Communist/Socialist economies begin by asking: What does my neighbor have, and do I also want it? It can only reduce rights and drive people into poverty, unless those people are corrupt-as we see time and time again. When Christ says: Give everything you have to the poor and follow me, he was speaking to a man who loved wealth more than God, not just someone who was prosperous.

@@nope24601 The major problem with your argument is that it's very clear you have no actual understanding of Socialism or Communism beyond RW lies and misrepresentations. To quickly define the terms for you: Socialism=The collective, social ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange Communism= A stateless, classless, moneyless society that is based around the common ownership of the means of production Now that that's out of the way, under a Capitalist economy, someone is always inevitably exploited in the interest of someone else's profit. Capitalism doesn't produce anything, labor does. So calling it "altruistic" is incredibly misleading. Especially when the consequences of it are people dying for a lack of food, clean water or medicine because it wasn't profitable enough to provide them with it. Under a Socialist economy, the value of your labor is used in public interest. Again, labor produces everything. Capitalism and Socialism just determine where the value goes. And before talking about how bad and impoverished Socialist countries are/were, I implore to look up a) what they were like BEFORE Socialist revolutions happened and b) what Capitalist countries did to said Socialist countries AFTER their revolutions. As for the religion point, Jesus implores people to sell their possessions and give the money to the poor, to care for the sick and the poor, to be on your guard against greed, etc. Jesus never says "I will only help or heal you if I can make a profit off it" which is what you're advocating for. He also constantly denounces rich people and even early Christians are described as living on what could be considered a commune. Christianity has an anti-Capitalist message that is embraced by many Christians today. People like you co-opt it for your own political agendas. th-cam.com/video/GmPMcWAuuVo/w-d-xo.html

@sillybilly904 What twisted webs we weave when our aim is to deceive.

@sillybilly904what people? All people not living in a communist government? That would have to be every country up until like 1920

@@nope24601 Nice projection bro

@@reedbryan1 And with this one comment, you miss the point.

@@BenMedia7 okay what’s the point? And I’m still wondering what people, I’m in need of enlightenment

I'm guessing you're saying you're a minimum wage worker, when you use the abbreviation "MW". If you're only making the minimum wage, and you claim to be "represented" by a "union", your biggest problem is that you're stupid. You may be in a situation where you can't afford to move to an area where there are more opportunities, but your main problems are that you're either a liar, stupid, or both.

Unfortunately, there are people that are working for slave wages in this country, some of them have two or three jobs, and most of them work a lot harder than you do on any one of those jobs. You should only need one job and 40 hours a week to survive in this country. No one can live on minimum wage -if it kept pace with inflation. It would be $24 an hour now. The reason minimum wage was forced by the unions was because companies would allow people to compete against each other for the lowest wages possible. it was a race to the bottom you had no benefits, and once you got hurt on the job, they would just set you out on the sidewalk and get somebody else. You had to live in a company town and shop at a company store. Children were used for dangerous work because they can fit inside dangerous machines, which would mean it sometimes kill them. The reason the unions forced the Social Security program to be a part of the new deal it’s because they didn’t want all people working until they were 89 years old but now that’s not worth a damn anymore. No benefits you have came from the kindness of a rich persons, heart. Most of these people are born into wealth or connections. I asked Jared, Kushner, we just received $2 billion in Saudi Arabia for his brilliance and along with his wife was running your government. They both got into the ivy leagues because their father, the money. Not because of great intelligence. They are no better than you are. Just benefiting from an accident a Birth to the detriment of thousands if not millions of other people who aren’t so fortunate to choose their parents. Stop being fooled by rich people to believe in delusional thinking like trickle down economics theory, which even the person who developed says does not work.

Are you as stupid as you appear to be? You can edit your comment, so as to appear less stupid.

We're much closer to fascism than socializing the economy. What Shawn Fain is promoting isn't extreme or radical.

​@Recondite101 😂😂😂 you're as dumb as Fain, what do you think a union is, a socialist structure. Every one equal, which leads to everyone will be equally poor.

Socialism + Fascism = Communism

​@@Recondite101dont have a right to exist and wipe them out isn't a communist veiled threat

This was an excerpt from a speech by Shawn Fain, president of the UAW that represents hundreds of thousands of members. I think you're underestimating how fed up workers are nowadays about neoliberal economics.

@@Recondite101 On the contrary, I'm not underestimating anything. If you have any knowledge about the railroad industry, you would know how unsafe it would be if it was completely unregulated, and how much worse working conditions would be without Union Representation. The coal miners and railroad workers were the pioneers of Union organizations in the USA. I'm saying that guy will be fine, preaching to the choir, but there are many industries and regions of the USA that aren't going to respond well to full-on Eugene Debs rhetoric. A lot of the fools that vote for republicans, and work at low paying non-union jobs, don't know any better, and some have little chance of improving their lot, even if they do, but will freak out at language that goes against their indoctrination. It's the right-wingers and big corporations that want to crush Unions, and I don't consider them to be "neo" or "liberal". They're the same as they've always been, so why are you blaming "neo-liberal economics", whatever your definition of that is?

​@@crosstiewalker803I think you guys are on the same team and just losing something in translation. The internet tends to make people want to just argue by default. About the video, people like Fain are sorely missing in the modern world. We need people like Shawn to shift the Overton Window as much as possible. Things are so far out of whack right now that, well... That you two are getting snippy when you are on the same team. Middle of the road people arent revolutionaries. Fence sitters do just that.

@@andynonymous2164 I'd like to hear his definition of "neo-liberal economics". I found an article from the "Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy" that discusses the definition and use of the term "neoliberal" and "neoliberalism". The first sentence of the article starts with: Though not all scholars agree on the meaning of the term, "neoliberalism" is now generally thought to label the philosophical view ( you can Google it and see the rest, if you're so inclined). If the original poster is using that term in the way the article says is the most common definition, I can agree with that.

@@andynonymous2164 I mistakenly directed my first comment to the UAW guy in the video, because I didn't notice it was just a re-post. You don't seem to have understood what I've said, and the last three or four sentences in your comment to me look more than just a little condescending. Did you fail to see what I said in my first comment, where I said that I agree with everything that was presented, but I think "middle-of-the-road" people are going to be freaked out by the style of rhetoric. Those are the people that need to have their opinions swayed, and if you think that "middle-of-the-road" people are going to start agreeing with a "revolutionary" movement anytime in the near future, you're delusional.

Are you aware that not every person is in a position in their life to "start their own business"? Many people are living paycheck to paycheck, and have a family to provide for, that doesn't leave enough money at the end of the month for "investing". Since you're apparently so confident in your methods, give everyone a few tips on how it's done. I'm a retired Union guy, so I don't need your suggestions, but I'm sure others would like to hear some of your "wealth of knowledge".

If a Union Member is doing well, it's because they are a Union Member whose Union has negotiated an acceptable contract, not because the person or company they work for is paying good wages, and partially paying for benefits, out of the "goodness of their hearts".

@@crosstiewalker803lol u obviously have victim mentality. Not every person is capable or wirking but definitely not 99% of Americas population is handicapped! More than half of America is lazy af and tryna cheat the system into getting govt aid when they are capable enough to go work! If u want something enough, u will find a way! I work 16h, mon-sat 3 jobs to make enough money to invest in my business while still supporting my kids. Im a single mother with 3 kids from the same lame excuse of a father whos in jail rn. I realize, just sulking and getting mad at the rich people i dont even know and who i will most likely never ever meet do nothing to change my life! Its up to me to change my life and my future especially for my childrens future. Maybe instead of being a victim and blaming people who will never know u, get ur as up and do something for a change. Maybe get a new job that will pay u more or get another job.

​@@crosstiewalker803Lol there's no such thing as the right time to start anything. My jobless buddy, is in the hole, has no cash, and just started his business out of necessity.

@@ERRORCODE0014 I'm an old retired Grandpa, and I'm not "blaming" anyone for anything. I think you're full of shit, and you're a liar.