@@austinatomTV Makes me wonder about Japanese cars made in USA have more problems? Like a Toyota Camry made in USA vs. Toyota Corolla made in JAPAN? Same for Hondas as all of Honda cars are made in USA and and Honda reliability went down.🤔🤔
Very nice clear review. My wife and I bought a Civic Hatch, sport touring (in the U.S.). The safety (physical & tech), extra space, overall utility, handling, power and looks were decisive. It also has a certain fun factor. We take the occasional long road trip so extra luggage and leg room is important. We keep our cars a long time so the cost is effectively spread out over years. We've owned Toyota, Hyundai and others, but this is the first Honda. So far we're totally loving it. It's just a really nice car. The Civic Hatch is an IIHS top safety pick+. That's huge and was our #1 consideration in buying it. A bit surprising this key fact is not in your review. Oh - and another factor for us: it's NOT an SUV! We didn't like Kona or Corolla Cross ALSO: in our area Honda was one of the few dealers not demanding some $5,000 or more in markup over MSRP. That really changes the equation.
I'm surprised everyone's leaning towards Civic I just bought a brand new Corolla hatchback for specific reasons it did not have a turbo you don't want that it makes your car less reliable the Toyota also got a higher fuel rating as well as it is more compact which is what I want the Civic is now a big sedan not cool that's the whole reason you're buying this type of vehicle is for the reliability and high fuel mileage if you guys want turbos and horsepower with handling performance why not just buy a Corvette then when your turbo blows out take out a loan to get it fixed
This is so true. I know because I have a C-6 Corvette. I won't touch the new Corvette because I am priced out of that market and the new Corvette is ugly and too complicated asking for more problems and 🤑cost too much to buy and maintain. I get 18 MPG to 28 MPG on my Corvette but I need more cargo space.
This is so true. I know because I have a C-6 Corvette as a daily driver. I won't touch the new Corvette because I am priced out of that market and wouldn't spend $100,000 for any vehicle even if I could afford it. The new Corvette is ugly with those off the shelf Camaro tail lights for cost cutting measures and too complicated asking for more problems as it already has and 🤑cost too much to buy and maintain. I get 18 MPG to 28 MPG on my Corvette which has proven to be reliable for a 17 year old vehicle. BUT I need more cargo space.
Just saying to all those talking about build quality and quality between the 2 just remember that a lot of the cars made by Toyota come from Japan. Most of the cars that are made by Honda are made in American. That being said American made stuff used to be awesome but I think I will go with the Japan made stuff nowadays!!!!! TOYOTA QUALITY
Love the new Civic far more than the Corolla, but there is no comparison between American vs. Japanese build quality. It's too bad we can't purchase Hondas from Japan.
Yep. The Mazda3 looks good on the outside but underneath it's full of quality control problem. Squeaks and rattles galore as well a/c issues and software glitches. Not good. Go to the Mazda 3 forum and read the threads.
Another great review of two very good cars. Yes the pricing for the Civic seems out of whack for the segment however it’s not affecting sales as much as it could. As of October it’s still the best selling sedan/car in Canada.
At least they sell somewhere. Honda's are not very popular in Australia, so despite having similar reliability they lose value and are harder to maintain long term. This means picking up older low km ones is a good second hand option, but it's a bit of a deal breaker in the new market.
Both are great cars. We looked at both. We settled with the Civic. The handling was sharper, made you feel more connected. The 1.5t is all you need. These are after all, each brand's Bottom Feeder. As far as looks, we got a Gen X when we saw the Civic Xl.
Actually, Hondas bottom feeder is the Fit, while Toyotas is the Yaris. Between those two the Fit wins in every category. Tough choice between Corolla and Civic.
Honda has slightly slipped in quality over the past few years. I don’t think this was the time to price their small car like a mid-size car. Over $35 grand is a lot of money ... especially for a small non-CUV non-performance FWD vehicle. I agree that Toyota will take the number one spot... and ALL because of the price difference. The Toyota has proven to been quite a reliable brand and has nailed the entry level (first car/first new car) price point. Thanks for another comparison video.
Yes because HONDA is no longer in the economy car price range🤑 like the Toyota Corolla is suppose to be minus stealership mark ups during this so called parts shortage and micro chip shortage.🤢🤮
Thank you for this valuable information, I am a big Corolla fan but the extra space in the back looks great. Price is a big thing to consider as I am on a tight budget. Thanks for sharing and have a wonderful day. More power to you both.
I traded my 2019 Civic Sport Hatchback Touring for the 2022 Civic Sport Hatchback Touring. I hear people discussing the price. 2022 is much better than the 2019 model I had. It is much better in so many ways and is a truly great car. They have improved this car drastically over the previous generation. Handling is better, interior space greater, dash better, seats better, sound dampening better. It is a remarkably balanced car that is a pleasure to drive. Best car I have ever owned. I have owned a couple dozen vehicles.
Honda deserves the poor sales. They totally shit on the Canadian market. The Hatchback should have been built at the Allison plant, cause we love Hatchbacks here in Canada. If so, that base Civic Hatchback would have a starting price 20% less then current and we would have gotten an Hatchback Si. My 10th Gen 6MT LX Sedan will be my last Honda.
@@timrose7096 Canadian built Civic is my most respected assembly plant. My 1998 DX Hatch, 2000 EXG Sedan and current 2017 LX Sedan was manufactured from that plant. I'd trust a car coming out of Alliston plant over one from overpriced Japanese plant.
For me the Corolla hatchback wins. The Honda dealership in Milton was not inviting, the salesman I was suppose to talk to, didn’t even show up. The rest of the staff looked like they had no clue what they were doing. As for the civic. I don’t see what the big deal is. It felt cheap, there were squeaks and rattle in my tester. It felt numb, no connection to the road. It felt like I was driving a Buick. Boring.
I would take the Corolla Hatchback. The traditional hatchback is more practical for hauling transmissions and engines on parts runs. Honda needs to bring back the traditional hatchback, like the Honda Fit, but even when the Fit was new, they were so much more expensive than a Corolla. Americans don't have much disposable income anymore and they will go to who is the cheapest now, including off brands.
I completely agree with Andrea that the Corolla Cross is really the better option for families. More space, higher seating, and it looks amazing in Cypress green. Always enjoy your work! Cheers from Virginia USA 🇺🇸 👍
I really love the new Civic hatch, (I would get a 2L manual ideally) but I love my Corolla hatch for the seats (mentioned in review) and the price. I am very happy with it, I do not use the hatch area or the rear seats as its just a work commuter. Great car, great mpg. Almost 3 years with it, zero issues.
@@verynick I have been debating Amsoil CVT fluid for it actually. This is my first automatic car so I'm not as up to speed on when I should be changing it. I have 60k KM on mine (around 45k mi or so)
@@revnto7k yeah the same I might go with Amsoil. Indi mechanics said to do it every 60k miles (sorry I’m not sure in KM) and I have noticed little slips in low gear speacilly downhill so FYI
Thanks guys. We are cross shopping these two and as much as I like the Civic the Corolla’s discount is hard to beat, especially at my price. You can always argue if you spend a little more you’ll get a little better but where does that end? Really enjoy your head to head comparisons.
I'd pick the Civic cuz of the much bigger size and space. If you're just driving yourself or a couple other people, they're both fine, but if you're frequently driving with 3 or 4 passengers, then the Civic's larger size would definitely be worth the price discrepancy.
I want a 2.5L Toyota D4S engine with Mazda Automatic in a Civic Hatchback. LOL Prefect combo You got the no carbon deposit issue engine. You got the no slipping/belt broke issue in a super reliable AT transmission. You got the rear seat/trunk space!
Civic's better engines and upmarket interior certainly worth its price premium over equivalent Corolla. But Corolla is definitely a worthy choice in the compact segment. As an owner of previous generation Civic Sport, I would choose it all over again if its the new generation. Or a Mazda3 2.5T as a close second choice.
Great review ! Yeah the price is crazy , where I’m located in Canada for a sport touring hatchback the dealers are wanting close to 41k for it . You can buy a rav 4 limited for basically the same price . I don’t know what Honda is thinking with these prices
Civic having just been released I can understand the price difference against much older Corolla hatch and even it's slightly newer SUV counterpart. Love and high praise for both cars/brands but am leaning more towards Civic for space.
Basic model corolla hatch se out the door is going for 30k in northern ca. Market adjusted rate is killing affordability for cars. Terrible time for consumers.
I wouldn’t say they are Honda biased. They are pretty balanced do emphasize the quality and durability of a toyota in other reviews and live chat show. In size for sure civic hatch wins, but you can get into a small suv for the same or less than their starting price. They are banking on Honda fans paying up huge fir it
I still say Honda Civic offer more features but pay more than Toyota Corolla and Corolla don’t offer much features. Great compare and great video Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻👊🏻☕️☕️
Honda Civic hatch for me if I was in the market for a hatch. Corolla and Civic used to the be in the same category, but Civic has grown and now is way bigger than Corolla. Civic is compact in name only, it's almost a mid-size car in terms of the space and its size, yet Corolla is more like a subcompact car.
This is a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. The Civic is bigger (7 inches longer and almost an inch wider) and more expensive and is pretty much an Accord except in name. The Corolla Hatch is a "world car" that's smaller than either the Mazda3 or the Impreza. These aren't cars people are likely to cross-shop anymore; the Toyota is what it's always been but the Civic is really a mid-sized sports-tourer.
You're correct on the length: 179" vs. 172" but the width of these 2 cars is exactly the same. I just got this Civic Hatch last month. If I could shave a few inches off the front end that would make it that much easier to park. Your point that it's hard to make this comparison has some truth to it. In general, a lot of sedans have tended to get longer than they should.
I believe only one offers a sunroof. Civic will probably get car of the year, but their pricing will screw their best selling car in Canada crown. Good job team. Both r winners. So happy sticks are still offered
I got the Toyota Corolla Hatchback because the XSE is around the same price as the base Civic. But the Civic doesn’t even look like a hatch IMO. Plus I’m not really a driving enthusiast.
Your first review on the redesigned 2022 Civic was instrumental in my purchase. I did get a hatchback model, an automatic, but not at the price point mentioned here. Base model price was $23,900 in the states. Being 6'6" I wouldn't normally fit well in a Honda sedan, but with this redesign I fit in it like a glove. As Andrea mentioned in that previous video Honda hit a home run and I couldn't agree more!
It's a shame North America is not supplied with Skoda vehicles, here in Europe Skoda is a contender and their Octavia would be a great rival to either of these cars. Being of the older generation I seem to remember Toyota made the Corolla in hatchback and a longer fastback, as well as an estate/station wagon. It would be nice if the latest Corolla had the fastback option.
About time somebody, aside from Scotty Kilmer, talks about the Toyota CV transmission launch gear. This is the major reason Toyota makes the most reliable CVT. I'm a stick shift guy, so it's not an issue.
In my area the price different of civic vs accord touring models is $29.xk vs ~$36-37k. So it’s quite a worthy price imo with all the features you get. Wireless CarPlay isn’t even available in lots of the luxury brands yet too
It just does not make any sense that the corolla sedan can be had with a sun roof, but not the hatch. That took it off my list immediately as i like a open roof.
Imo I think Corolla and civic no longer compete. The civic is clearly a larger superior car. Same goes for the Camry Accord battle. The top Camry is clearly a step below the top Accord. Corolla is the entry car for those interested in main streamJapanese sedans. Step up to a civic then step up again to a Camry and the final step up is the accord. Mazda and Subies really don't compete in main stream sedan market.....not really.
Team Motormouth, Does Toyota have secret data proving Canadians and Americans are shrinking? How else could they have justified these tiny interiors in their latest TNGA cars? Let's be blunt, the back seat of the Corolla hatch is next to useless.
@@benpatana7664 Yes, the cargo room is dire as well. I suppose the only excuse for this miniature hatch is that Toyota sells practically sized Corolla wagons in Europe and Japan. If we got the wagon here the hatch could be forgiven.
I like the Corolla exterior but the back seat looks tight. I also wish it had a sunroof. I love a sunroof and not having one is a problem for me. The Civic has a nicer interior and I know it will probably handle better. This is not an easy decision.
"You get a 6-speed manual in both"... yeah, not really though. Almost always when they say this, you go to Autotrader and try to find one within a 5 hour drive of Houston, TX and there's nothing for years. So unless you special order, sight unseen to know if its even a good manual, you can't really get one.
The Corolla is SO cramped and the cargo volume is laughable, compared to the Civic. This isn’t even close in my opinion. The Honda is the clear winner.
Of course it's a higher end and higher pricedlarger vehicle but is BUTT ugly in my eyes. Honda Civic is not in the same category as the economy car Corolla. The Honda Civic is a step up and above the Corolla that's why it costs more 🤑
What is 0 to 60 acceleration times for 6 spd. Manual HATCHBACK?🤔 top end speed?🤔 Base Weight on corolla HATCHBACK 6spd. Manual??🤔 Miles per gallon on 6 spd. Manual?🤔 Allof the above would be for usa corolla.
The Corolla hatchback would be my pick even if it had the same price as the Civic. This generation Civic was hit with a serious ugly stick imo, though the hatchback version has a much more attractive rear end compared to the sedan, but it's still generic looking. The Corolla hatchback looks far more interesting/sporty and if you add to that the fact it's made in Japan the choice becomes easy for me. As far as interior, I don't like that tacky honeycomb mesh strip that runs across the Civic's dashboard and find it out of character with the rest of the tastefully understated interior. Moreover, CR had a lukewarm review of the new Civic calling it less refined and rougher riding than the previous gen, though I'd have to decide for myself via a test drive when it comes time to replace my current car. Finally, just wanted to say your reviews are not only informative and nicely produced, they're also thoroughly entertaining due to your brilliant sense of humor and charisma; kudos!
Lets do the math , Corolla is $7K cheaper , Better gas mileage and better horsepower... Also its a Toyota and its going to last .. On a personal note that Honeycomb grill in the Honda is just gross and silly .
The price of the new Civic is getting pretty close to the Accord's price (although there is no longer a manual with that model, nor does it have a hatchback.) The Corolla hatchback is cute and looks like it is for the 'young crowd' but the Civic looks more grown up and sophisticated. (The Corolla hatch has a big following for people who like to modify their cars with wheels, spoilers and "kids stuff".)
Base model civic is about the same price of a fully loaded Corolla! I'll go with the corolla all day. Honda is going nuts with the pricing of this thing.
How is the reliability of the Mazda 3 and is it offerred with a manual transmission like a 6 spd. manual? Don't want no CVT transmission like Toyota is discontinuing the 6 spd. manual across the board on all Corollas.
Hello to you both, I have say both cars have a nice look to them yet all depends on what you like and how it drives for you. Great review and thanks for sharing.
@@kylenewberry2598 Thanks for that info. I will look into the Mazda 3. I don't know much about these cars as I was born and raised on 10 MPG V8 cars . I know the Mazda Miata is made in Japan and my brother has one but it's just too small and impractical for me to make those Costco Club runs. I need Cargo space with seats that fold down. I don't drive people around so rear seat space doesn't matter to me. What does matter to me of significant importance is just cargo space as long as seats fold down. The reason I liked the Corolla was it was a hatchback with sporty styling and was available with a 6 spd. manual for FUN driving with what little engine it had with 4 cylinders but now I understand the 6 spd. manual is no longer available on all Toytota Corollas across the board for remainder of 2022 and 2023. So Goodbye Toyota.
@@kylenewberry2598 Makes me wonder what the price is on this Mazda 3? I will have to check it out and I need cargo space not people space. Will the Mazda 3 be as reliable and low cost maintenance like the Toyota brand Corolla? How is the performance on the Mazda 3 with stick shift manual?
It’s a hard choice but a Toyota made in Japan still means something.
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Yes made i N japan is better.👍
My thoughts exactly!
@@austinatomTV Makes me wonder about Japanese cars made in USA have more problems? Like a Toyota Camry made in USA vs. Toyota Corolla made in JAPAN? Same for Hondas as all of Honda cars are made in USA and and Honda reliability went down.🤔🤔
That's why I bought a corolla hatchback
Very nice clear review. My wife and I bought a Civic Hatch, sport touring (in the U.S.). The safety (physical & tech), extra space, overall utility, handling, power and looks were decisive. It also has a certain fun factor. We take the occasional long road trip so extra luggage and leg room is important. We keep our cars a long time so the cost is effectively spread out over years. We've owned Toyota, Hyundai and others, but this is the first Honda. So far we're totally loving it. It's just a really nice car. The Civic Hatch is an IIHS top safety pick+. That's huge and was our #1 consideration in buying it. A bit surprising this key fact is not in your review. Oh - and another factor for us: it's NOT an SUV! We didn't like Kona or Corolla Cross ALSO: in our area Honda was one of the few dealers not demanding some $5,000 or more in markup over MSRP. That really changes the equation.
I'm surprised everyone's leaning towards Civic I just bought a brand new Corolla hatchback for specific reasons it did not have a turbo you don't want that it makes your car less reliable the Toyota also got a higher fuel rating as well as it is more compact which is what I want the Civic is now a big sedan not cool that's the whole reason you're buying this type of vehicle is for the reliability and high fuel mileage if you guys want turbos and horsepower with handling performance why not just buy a Corvette then when your turbo blows out take out a loan to get it fixed
This is so true. I know because I have a C-6 Corvette. I won't touch the new Corvette because I am priced out of that market and the new Corvette is ugly and too complicated asking for more problems and 🤑cost too much to buy and maintain. I get 18 MPG to 28 MPG on my Corvette but I need more cargo space.
This is so true. I know because I have a C-6 Corvette as a daily driver. I won't touch the new Corvette because I am priced out of that market and wouldn't spend $100,000 for any vehicle even if I could afford it. The new Corvette is ugly with those off the shelf Camaro tail lights for cost cutting measures and too complicated asking for more problems as it already has and 🤑cost too much to buy and maintain. I get 18 MPG to 28 MPG on my Corvette which has proven to be reliable for a 17 year old vehicle. BUT I need more cargo space.
Just saying to all those talking about build quality and quality between the 2 just remember that a lot of the cars made by Toyota come from Japan. Most of the cars that are made by Honda are made in American. That being said American made stuff used to be awesome but I think I will go with the Japan made stuff nowadays!!!!!
TOYOTA QUALITY
Yes I concur with you 100%. MADE IN JAPAN IS #1 over made in USA.😁👍. Less problems and less recalls.
Another great review ! Thanks again for being honest and calling Honda out for their outrageous pricing in this case.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
You guys are an excellent team. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much!
Toyota Corolla for styling and reliability. Actually it resembles my 2007 Mazda3 hatchback. And the price, Corolla wins.
I like the civic hatch better, BUT...ILL BUY THE COROLLA! Honda reliability has declined with the turbos. Toyota more reliable and BANK OF TOYOTA.
Love the new Civic far more than the Corolla, but there is no comparison between American vs. Japanese build quality. It's too bad we can't purchase Hondas from Japan.
Japan >
JAPAN IS MORE DISCIPLINE AND BETTER WORK ETHICS.
The great majority of Corollas sold in NA are made in the USA.
Biggest difference is that you can get Toyota at a reasonable price. Honda dealers are greedy nuts, who think they are selling Rolls Royce.🤯🤬
The Corolla has a more reliable engine. Honda's 1.5T didn't have a good start, so still needs to prove itself
Get the 2.0 Civic and you’ll have legendary reliability. K series is beast.
THE CIVIC HAS A TURBO 1.5 MORE POWER BUT LESS RELISBILITY
IS THAT BECAUSE THE TURBO MAKES THE HONDA NOT AS RELIABLE WITH MORE MAINTENANCE?
Civic is more compelling in this comparison, but Corrola will definitely outlast Civic Informative content
The Corolla will only seem to last longer because it's more boring. :)
Civic is trying to price itself into premium segment. We all know how well that went for Mazda.
Yep. The Mazda3 looks good on the outside but underneath it's full of quality control problem. Squeaks and rattles galore as well a/c issues and software glitches. Not good. Go to the Mazda 3 forum and read the threads.
It is pretty premium though. You get a lot for that extra money over Toyota. The Mazda is also too much engine so it gets less fuel economy.
At $29 and some change grand the civic hatchback offers so much more. Plus it looks amazing with this refresh!
Another great review of two very good cars. Yes the pricing for the Civic seems out of whack for the segment however it’s not affecting sales as much as it could. As of October it’s still the best selling sedan/car in Canada.
Fair enough!
At least they sell somewhere. Honda's are not very popular in Australia, so despite having similar reliability they lose value and are harder to maintain long term.
This means picking up older low km ones is a good second hand option, but it's a bit of a deal breaker in the new market.
Both are great cars.
We looked at both. We settled with the Civic. The handling was sharper, made you feel more connected. The 1.5t is all you need. These are after all, each brand's Bottom Feeder.
As far as looks, we got a Gen X when we saw the Civic Xl.
Actually, Hondas bottom feeder is the Fit, while Toyotas is the Yaris.
Between those two the Fit wins in every category.
Tough choice between Corolla and Civic.
Honda has slightly slipped in quality over the past few years. I don’t think this was the time to price their small car like a mid-size car. Over $35 grand is a lot of money ... especially for a small non-CUV non-performance FWD vehicle. I agree that Toyota will take the number one spot... and ALL because of the price difference. The Toyota has proven to been quite a reliable brand and has nailed the entry level (first car/first new car) price point. Thanks for another comparison video.
Yes because HONDA is no longer in the economy car price range🤑 like the Toyota Corolla is suppose to be minus stealership mark ups during this so called parts shortage and micro chip shortage.🤢🤮
Toyotas quality has gone down, especially on certain models, and the Hond civic’s starting price is 24,950 for the hatchback and 23,950 for the sedan
I have a 2019 SE upgrade, it's a really nice commuter car. Can't complain at this price point with all the options you can get.
If you’re going to spend $30k for a civic, might as well just upgrade to an acura integra for 33
Thank you for this valuable information, I am a big Corolla fan but the extra space in the back looks great. Price is a big thing to consider as I am on a tight budget. Thanks for sharing and have a wonderful day. More power to you both.
Glad it was helpful! - Andrea
I traded my 2019 Civic Sport Hatchback Touring for the 2022 Civic Sport Hatchback Touring. I hear people discussing the price. 2022 is much better than the 2019 model I had. It is much better in so many ways and is a truly great car. They have improved this car drastically over the previous generation. Handling is better, interior space greater, dash better, seats better, sound dampening better. It is a remarkably balanced car that is a pleasure to drive. Best car I have ever owned. I have owned a couple dozen vehicles.
Get the Corolla. The rear of the civic looks blocky and weird. And Corolla is built in Japan still
Honda deserves the poor sales. They totally shit on the Canadian market. The Hatchback should have been built at the Allison plant, cause we love Hatchbacks here in Canada. If so, that base Civic Hatchback would have a starting price 20% less then current and we would have gotten an Hatchback Si. My 10th Gen 6MT LX Sedan will be my last Honda.
I was in support of Honda products because they were built in Canada. Right now I have fewer reasons. We should consider that also.
@@timrose7096 Canadian built Civic is my most respected assembly plant. My 1998 DX Hatch, 2000 EXG Sedan and current 2017 LX Sedan was manufactured from that plant. I'd trust a car coming out of Alliston plant over one from overpriced Japanese plant.
@@psewgobind My point too. I mean from "right now" is being built outside of Canada.
Canadian builts are great ones. cheers
Corolla hatchback built in JAPAN ???
Sign me up Toyota
Everything you need to know is right here. Perfect comparison review. Well done, guys.
Glad you liked it!
For me the Corolla hatchback wins. The Honda dealership in Milton was not inviting, the salesman I was suppose to talk to, didn’t even show up. The rest of the staff looked like they had no clue what they were doing. As for the civic. I don’t see what the big deal is. It felt cheap, there were squeaks and rattle in my tester. It felt numb, no connection to the road. It felt like I was driving a Buick. Boring.
I would take the Corolla Hatchback. The traditional hatchback is more practical for hauling transmissions and engines on parts runs. Honda needs to bring back the traditional hatchback, like the Honda Fit, but even when the Fit was new, they were so much more expensive than a Corolla. Americans don't have much disposable income anymore and they will go to who is the cheapest now, including off brands.
The Civic pricing puts it right up against the Camry (or a RAV4). That seems overpriced to me.
I completely agree with Andrea that the Corolla Cross is really the better option for families. More space, higher seating, and it looks amazing in Cypress green. Always enjoy your work! Cheers from Virginia USA 🇺🇸 👍
Thank you so much, really glad you are enjoying our content 🙏
They are both good choices but it's the Corolla for me... the looks and reliable n/a engine would win my money
Civic = 16 year old’s 1st car
Corolla = 16 year old’s mom’s current car.
I really love the new Civic hatch, (I would get a 2L manual ideally) but I love my Corolla hatch for the seats (mentioned in review) and the price. I am very happy with it, I do not use the hatch area or the rear seats as its just a work commuter. Great car, great mpg. Almost 3 years with it, zero issues.
3 years in my Hatch as well. Are you thinking of changing fluid on transmission?
@@verynick I have been debating Amsoil CVT fluid for it actually. This is my first automatic car so I'm not as up to speed on when I should be changing it. I have 60k KM on mine (around 45k mi or so)
@@revnto7k yeah the same I might go with Amsoil. Indi mechanics said to do it every 60k miles (sorry I’m not sure in KM) and I have noticed little slips in low gear speacilly downhill so FYI
@@verynick 😱🙈🤢🤮 i will stick with 6spd.manual.👍😁
We got the hybrid version, so far it ticks all the boxes.
And should be the last car my wife ever gets.
Thanks guys. We are cross shopping these two and as much as I like the Civic the Corolla’s discount is hard to beat, especially at my price. You can always argue if you spend a little more you’ll get a little better but where does that end? Really enjoy your head to head comparisons.
I'd pick the Civic cuz of the much bigger size and space. If you're just driving yourself or a couple other people, they're both fine, but if you're frequently driving with 3 or 4 passengers, then the Civic's larger size would definitely be worth the price discrepancy.
I want a 2.5L Toyota D4S engine with Mazda Automatic in a Civic Hatchback. LOL
Prefect combo
You got the no carbon deposit issue engine.
You got the no slipping/belt broke issue in a super reliable AT transmission.
You got the rear seat/trunk space!
Keep on dreaming 🤣
WHICH CAR WILL BE MORE RELIABLE, LAST LONGER, MORE COMFORTABLE RIDE ON BUMPY ROADS, LESS ROAD NOISE.
i will buy the corolla only if they will lower the price to $16k..... LOL
If you buying a 5 or 6 year old corolla at that price of $16k then sure.
The Toyota Corolla Hatch has more style than Honda Civic. Also Honda Civic is made in the USA🤮
@krzysztof duszkiewicz 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Civic's better engines and upmarket interior certainly worth its price premium over equivalent Corolla. But Corolla is definitely a worthy choice in the compact segment. As an owner of previous generation Civic Sport, I would choose it all over again if its the new generation. Or a Mazda3 2.5T as a close second choice.
Toyota, Corolla is what I own...
Great review ! Yeah the price is crazy , where I’m located in Canada for a sport touring hatchback the dealers are wanting close to 41k for it . You can buy a rav 4 limited for basically the same price . I don’t know what Honda is thinking with these prices
I'm surprised they're not jacking up the prices for the RAV4 over there. The rav4 prices are out of control in New York City
The pricing is exclusive to that dealership. So if they’re up charging don’t buy from them
Andrea takes those roads like a champ !!!!!
Great review of both with differing points of view. Much appreciated!!
Civic having just been released I can understand the price difference against much older Corolla hatch and even it's slightly newer SUV counterpart. Love and high praise for both cars/brands but am leaning more towards Civic for space.
Basic model corolla hatch se out the door is going for 30k in northern ca. Market adjusted rate is killing affordability for cars. Terrible time for consumers.
The civic looks dead. The Toyota looks beautiful and sporty.
We all knew the Civic would beat the Corolla in yet another Motormouth head to head comparison.
This is definitely a Honda biased channel . In the long run I'll take the Toyota .
I wouldn’t say they are Honda biased. They are pretty balanced do emphasize the quality and durability of a toyota in other reviews and live chat show. In size for sure civic hatch wins, but you can get into a small suv for the same or less than their starting price. They are banking on Honda fans paying up huge fir it
I still say Honda Civic offer more features but pay more than Toyota Corolla and Corolla don’t offer much features. Great compare and great video Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻👊🏻☕️☕️
Awesome, thanks for watching!
@@andreaspencer9813 You are an very welcome Andrea! 👍🏻
And exactly what features Toyota don't offer that civic offer?
And looks way much better too.
Honda Civic hatch for me if I was in the market for a hatch. Corolla and Civic used to the be in the same category, but Civic has grown and now is way bigger than Corolla. Civic is compact in name only, it's almost a mid-size car in terms of the space and its size, yet Corolla is more like a subcompact car.
Civic hands down. Always loved it. Price is a bit steepish but hey, quality costs. Will say that the Corolla is kinda cute though
lol yeah it is cute and reminds me of a toy car
This is a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. The Civic is bigger (7 inches longer and almost an inch wider) and more expensive and is pretty much an Accord except in name. The Corolla Hatch is a "world car" that's smaller than either the Mazda3 or the Impreza. These aren't cars people are likely to cross-shop anymore; the Toyota is what it's always been but the Civic is really a mid-sized sports-tourer.
You're correct on the length: 179" vs. 172" but the width of these 2 cars is exactly the same. I just got this Civic Hatch last month. If I could shave a few inches off the front end that would make it that much easier to park. Your point that it's hard to make this comparison has some truth to it. In general, a lot of sedans have tended to get longer than they should.
corolla built in japan civic built in indiana is all you really needed to take away
Civic Hatchback , especially in the Boost Blue , waiting to see the new Integra , (ILX 2.0)
I believe only one offers a sunroof. Civic will probably get car of the year, but their pricing will screw their best selling car in Canada crown. Good job team. Both r winners. So happy sticks are still offered
Thank you, glad you liked it.
I got the Toyota Corolla Hatchback because the XSE is around the same price as the base Civic. But the Civic doesn’t even look like a hatch IMO. Plus I’m not really a driving enthusiast.
Very professional both of you. Thanks.
Horsehair dusting brush with shop vac with take care of Avery nook and cranny in record time.. even those honeycomb vents
Your first review on the redesigned 2022 Civic was instrumental in my purchase. I did get a hatchback model, an automatic, but not at the price point mentioned here. Base model price was $23,900 in the states. Being 6'6" I wouldn't normally fit well in a Honda sedan, but with this redesign I fit in it like a glove. As Andrea mentioned in that previous video Honda hit a home run and I couldn't agree more!
Clear hatch winner is Mazda 3 Sport GT with premium package
It's a shame North America is not supplied with Skoda vehicles, here in Europe Skoda is a contender and their Octavia would be a great rival to either of these cars. Being of the older generation I seem to remember Toyota made the Corolla in hatchback and a longer fastback, as well as an estate/station wagon. It would be nice if the latest Corolla had the fastback option.
Thanks for the report but I will wait for the corolla GR.
Audi vibe? The Honda looks like the accord now lmfaooo Corolla looks wayyy better as a hatch
About time somebody, aside from Scotty Kilmer, talks about the Toyota CV transmission launch gear.
This is the major reason Toyota makes the most reliable CVT.
I'm a stick shift guy, so it's not an issue.
For the price of Civic hatchback , I rather getting the Accord instead .
In my area the price different of civic vs accord touring models is $29.xk vs ~$36-37k. So it’s quite a worthy price imo with all the features you get. Wireless CarPlay isn’t even available in lots of the luxury brands yet too
Always good! Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
which one is better toyota hatchback or honda hatchback honda is better hatchback then toyota 💯
Manual transmission for the WIN!! What’s not to like??
It just does not make any sense that the corolla sedan can be had with a sun roof, but not the hatch. That took it off my list immediately as i like a open roof.
I like the honey comb vents but what about a cellphone holder? Gotta get one of those suction cup ones or cupholder ones.
No auto rev match on Civic that's a major difference if you like that on manual.
Revmatch is only for amateur
Mazda3 AWD is out of the price range at 36k usd. I haven't seen one on the street.
Imo I think Corolla and civic no longer compete. The civic is clearly a larger superior car. Same goes for the Camry Accord battle. The top Camry is clearly a step below the top Accord. Corolla is the entry car for those interested in main streamJapanese sedans. Step up to a civic then step up again to a Camry and the final step up is the accord. Mazda and Subies really don't compete in main stream sedan market.....not really.
You are correct.
It would be helpful if you included the YEAR of these two.
Toyota seriously needs to work on their interiors...let that start with the new Tundra interior
Agreed the interior always looks dated
Team Motormouth, Does Toyota have secret data proving Canadians and Americans are shrinking? How else could they have justified these tiny interiors in their latest TNGA cars? Let's be blunt, the back seat of the Corolla hatch is next to useless.
@@benpatana7664 Yes, the cargo room is dire as well. I suppose the only excuse for this miniature hatch is that Toyota sells practically sized Corolla wagons in Europe and Japan. If we got the wagon here the hatch could be forgiven.
Interesting that around the world as a mass car producer it seems that Honda is knowingly self-asphyxiating.
Reliability wise which one is better?
I like the Corolla exterior but the back seat looks tight. I also wish it had a sunroof. I love a sunroof and not having one is a problem for me. The Civic has a nicer interior and I know it will probably handle better. This is not an easy decision.
"You get a 6-speed manual in both"... yeah, not really though. Almost always when they say this, you go to Autotrader and try to find one within a 5 hour drive of Houston, TX and there's nothing for years. So unless you special order, sight unseen to know if its even a good manual, you can't really get one.
Or test drive before purchase let alone see what corolla looks like in person before purchase.
The Corolla is SO cramped and the cargo volume is laughable, compared to the Civic. This isn’t even close in my opinion. The Honda is the clear winner.
Of course it's a higher end and higher pricedlarger vehicle but is BUTT ugly in my eyes. Honda Civic is not in the same category as the economy car Corolla. The Honda Civic is a step up and above the Corolla that's why it costs more 🤑
What's that aero kit on the Corolla Hatchback?
What is 0 to 60 acceleration times for 6 spd. Manual HATCHBACK?🤔
top end speed?🤔
Base Weight on corolla HATCHBACK 6spd. Manual??🤔
Miles per gallon on 6 spd. Manual?🤔
Allof the above would be for usa corolla.
Civic all day
Ill take whichever can fit my mountain bike
I have a 19 civic hatch 6sp. It takes me and two others and an adult mountain bike inside with front tire off
Fold down the Civic's back seat and that puppy will slide right in there.
Hmmm...Civic or Corolla...hmmm. I'll take the GTI!!
Both Toyota and Honda have always had a love-hate relationship.
The Corolla hatchback would be my pick even if it had the same price as the Civic. This generation Civic was hit with a serious ugly stick imo, though the hatchback version has a much more attractive rear end compared to the sedan, but it's still generic looking. The Corolla hatchback looks far more interesting/sporty and if you add to that the fact it's made in Japan the choice becomes easy for me. As far as interior, I don't like that tacky honeycomb mesh strip that runs across the Civic's dashboard and find it out of character with the rest of the tastefully understated interior. Moreover, CR had a lukewarm review of the new Civic calling it less refined and rougher riding than the previous gen, though I'd have to decide for myself via a test drive when it comes time to replace my current car.
Finally, just wanted to say your reviews are not only informative and nicely produced, they're also thoroughly entertaining due to your brilliant sense of humor and charisma; kudos!
I don't like the honey comb mesh either and find it very weird how every reviewer I've seen likes it.
Lets do the math , Corolla is $7K cheaper , Better gas mileage and better horsepower... Also its a Toyota and its going to last .. On a personal note that Honeycomb grill in the Honda is just gross and silly
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The price of the new Civic is getting pretty close to the Accord's price (although there is no longer a manual with that model, nor does it have a hatchback.) The Corolla hatchback is cute and looks like it is for the 'young crowd' but the Civic looks more grown up and sophisticated. (The Corolla hatch has a big following for people who like to modify their cars with wheels, spoilers and "kids stuff".)
What do you mean close to accord. Isn't an accord fully loaded around $35k. If anything. The civic is the same price as a huyndai sonata limited
Base model civic is about the same price of a fully loaded Corolla! I'll go with the corolla all day. Honda is going nuts with the pricing of this thing.
Let's hope Honda sales goes down or else otber car manufacturers will raise price also if Honda is still selling alot
just get the mazda3. The pricing for the civic hatch makes no sense.
How is the reliability of the Mazda 3 and is it offerred with a manual transmission like a 6 spd. manual? Don't want no CVT transmission like Toyota is discontinuing the 6 spd. manual across the board on all Corollas.
Hello to you both,
I have say both cars have a nice look to them yet all depends on what you like and how it drives for you.
Great review and thanks for sharing.
Corolla Beast🔥🔥🔥
The Civic used to be a good seller it won't be now not at those prices
I wish they’d put the gt86 engine in the Corolla
Just think the civic is too big to compete in this segment now.
Personally I'd take a Mazda3 hatch over both and certainly over a specd out civic.
Why the Mazda 3 over the Toyota Corolla? I don't care about Honda as it is made in the USA and is butt ugly.🤢🤮and overpriced🤑.
@@microminiskirt the new civic looks great imho. And mazda for better tranny and interior plus equal reliability
@@kylenewberry2598 Thanks for that info. I will look into the Mazda 3. I don't know much about these cars as I was born and raised on 10 MPG V8 cars . I know the Mazda Miata is made in Japan and my brother has one but it's just too small and impractical for me to make those Costco Club runs. I need Cargo space with seats that fold down. I don't drive people around so rear seat space doesn't matter to me. What does matter to me of significant importance is just cargo space as long as seats fold down. The reason I liked the Corolla was it was a hatchback with sporty styling and was available with a 6 spd. manual for FUN driving with what little engine it had with 4 cylinders but now I understand the 6 spd. manual is no longer available on all Toytota Corollas across the board for remainder of 2022 and 2023. So Goodbye Toyota.
@@microminiskirt yeah the shifter will be better in her mazda as well as suspension. But you can only get the stick in a top trim on the 3.
@@kylenewberry2598 Makes me wonder what the price is on this Mazda 3? I will have to check it out and I need cargo space not people space. Will the Mazda 3 be as reliable and low cost maintenance like the Toyota brand Corolla? How is the performance on the Mazda 3 with stick shift manual?
Try and buy a new Civic. I was interested in a Sport trim with manual transmission and my local dealer wanted $3K over MSRP for it. What thieves.
Are you in usa?
I know , where I’m located in Canada they want 41k+ taxes destination ect for a sport touring 😂
Civic hatch in previous gen look so much better. Corolla look too plane inside. New civic price is more like accord now
ill pick the honda hatchback but its should not be price more than the sedan version.
6-speed civic base trim > Any trim Corolla if you like manual car.
No turbos Means go Toyota.
You mean more reliable and because it's made in JAPAN?