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- Meaning Behind The Persona is a series dedicated to the lore and history of the main cast's Personas throughout the Persona games. This video is diving deep into Persona 3's characters. This is a polarizing game, but put all that aside and let's learn about some Greek mythology. Special Thanks to Marsh for helping out with the video as well. Consider it somewhat of a Persona 3 analysis or persona 3 review or sorts. Explaining the personas of persona 3 can help you understand and appreciate the story that much more.
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Roster:
00:03 - Intro
00:45 - Makoto Yuki (Protagonist), Orpheus
02:43 - Yukari Takeba, Io
04:43 - Junpei Iori, Hermes
06:47 - Mitsuru Kirijou, Penthesilea
08:41 - Akihiko Sanada, Polydeuces
12:27 - Fuuka Yamagishi, Lucia
15:00 - Aigis, Palladion
16:39 - Koromaru, Cerberus
18:46 - Ken Amada, Nemesis
20:47 - Shinjiro Aragaki. Castor
23:03 - Outro
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Music used in order
Brand New Days - Persona 3 FES
When The Moon's Reaching Out Stars - Persona 3/5 Mix
Kimi No Kioku - Persona 3 FES
A Way of Life - Persona 3 Portable
Deep Breath Deep Breath (Instrumental) - Persona 3 FES
The Wandering Wolf - Persona 4 Arena
Tender Feeling - Persona 3 Portable
Time (Instrumental) - Persona 3 Portable
Memories of the City - Persona 3 FES
Tartarus Floor 6 - Persona 3 FES
Living With Determination Iwatodai Station Arrange - Persona 3
Our Moment Full - Persona 3 Dancing In Moonlight
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Can you do this for Metis and the Strega members too?
Castor was killed by a spear, which leads me to believe the reason why Ken's weapon is a spear is his relationship to Shinji
That would explain why they went with a spear for Ken instead of darts, which is seen in the concept art.
Shinji was killed by a gun. Guns, like spears (as far as we can see in game via Aigis) do pierce damage, which I thought was a neat connection
The mechanical design of Orpheus may actually be in reference to his death. It was said that his body was entirely torn apart, with the only thing remaining being his head, explaining why the persona's head seems more natural.
Actually all of his body parts were intact and spread across the world
@@BJ.Cardoso but his head was the main thing in the end, talking about how it floated to a city or town and became important to it or something, I barely remember
@@CrowAkechi_The_Luminary it floated to mount olympus
@@BJ.Cardoso oh
I bet Koromaru had Cerberus as a neat nod to Pascal, because both of them are loyal good boys.
Makes sense. I could never hate Dog characters, even if they don't make that much sense.
Headcannon that I will die on the hill of: Koromaru is the reincarnation of Pascal
Koromaru shalt now be known as the dog who is indeed here
"Junpei is probably best BEST bro archetype in Persona."
FACTS
A fellow king I see
Yeah, it's just too bad that you can't form a Social Link with him unless you play as the girl in Portable. If a Persona 3 remake ever happens, I hope they fix that. Akihiko, Ken, and Koromaru too, and maybe Shinjiro if they can find a way to fit it in before… you know…
@@LeahLovesNature why is it so bad?
@@---oq5kb Because I think the male protagonist should be able to form a Social Link with the guy who's supposed to be his best bro.
@@LeahLovesNature imo social link mechanic is stupid so I don't really care. "Here, have optional character growth that doesn't even matter to the actual story, we will just make some references to it here and there in the future games." And also "Wow, you talked to me like, 10 times. Now we are best friends and you never have to talk to me again. Thanks for using me for your own gain."
Mitsuru's Initial Persona being sent into battle foe penance may relate to Mitsuru fighting to atone for the Kirijo group's sins
I could've sworn I'd heard somewhere that the giant buzzsaw in the design for Nemesis was supposed to be a nod to the cyclical nature of revenge. I also find it really cool that the circle around Nemesis grows into a more complex spherical shape with Kala-Nemi, possibly symbolizing Ken maturing from the incident with Shinji and realizing there is more than just revenge.
I believe the reason for Nemesis' design is supposed to represent the another representation of a "Nemesis" instead of Nemesis the deity/embodiment of retribution itself, being that of something of agent meant to cause ruin or downfall and having negative undertones to it. Granted the fact that Ken's Nemesis has a more sinister smile and look it sort of makes sense, not to mention a literal fucking buzzsaw is menacing in of Its own right. Plus not to mention Ken is still just a kid, while having capabilities unlike some of his peers, he's still naive and a little ignorant until Shinjiro basically gave him the talk about regret. This nemesis is just representation some if not many think what the concept is other than being a rival or retributive justice.
Actually the second "sword" in Penthesilea's design is a parrying dagger, a dagger used in fencing to parry attacks from the opponent, though most forms of the sport don't use it. It was, however, used fairly often in actual combat.
Was thinking about Polydeuces' design. His screwdriver might be a reference to how Akihiko wants to fix the past. When he transforms into Caesar, Akihiko lets the past go and dons a true sword.
An interesting thought. The symbolism is definitely there
Castor : I fight with my horse
Polydeuces : I fight with... uh... oversized thumbtack???
I think the screwdriver arm is actually a broken spear, which would make sense for the histories of the personas. I mean, a spear head is buried in the other one.
That may be the case, the brothers were famous for their spearmanship
That's pretty rad, I'd like to see you go over Strega even if it would be rather short I love them as characters for their symbolism.
Hey that's not a bad idea, maybe a mini episode later like I did for Strikers
*gets to nemesis and his backstory and instantly thinks of the re series*
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point of fact; the caduceus (mercury's staff) is NOT the one used to represent medicine. that is actually asclepius's staff. not that this is a big deal for junpei but it is an interesting fact
I just realived that fuuka almost never uses an evoker, and to summon her persona she just prays, similar to saint lucia.
According to the official design book, Fuuka was self sacrificing and closed off person. When she got her first friends she awoke to her persona. So I guess it makes sense... Also Soejima based her on the version in which Lucia took her own eyes.
Hermes was originally planned to be the MC's persona. You didn't talk about Trismegistus. He was an alchemist, who was rumored to have the philosophers stone.
Artemisia is based on Artemis and Kala-Nemi a pre-Vedic spirit of the stars and time.
True I overlooked some stuff from the official books. Thanks for the comment
Artemisia was real person. She was close ally of king Xerxes of Persia
@@EN-mh4og The Queen of Halicarnassus, commanded her ships personally at the battles of Salamis and Artemisium, and subject of the famous quote attributed to Xerxes "the gods have seen fit to make men of my women, and my women men!" upon witnessing her recklessness in the battle. Most relevantly for Persona 3, she is credited with finding the body of Ariabignes (brother of Xerxes) and returning it to him after the Persian defeat at Salamis.
Side note, but the ancient Historians Plutarch and Herodotus have WILDLY different takes on her.
Junperi Iori the ace detective
Yukari at the background: Pfft More like Stupei ace Defective
*the part of hachiko*
I am not crying! you're crying!
Hermes is actually only the second youngest, the youngest was Dionysus
Of course Persona got this right.
SMT is all about taking mythological, religious, and historical figures and extrapolating aspects of then into a coherent design, moveset, and narrative role.
Adapting that narrative role to "represent this character" is an easy recipie for some good shit.
Hit the nail on the head that's the reason I made this series lol
I think Nemesis' sawblade may reference how vengeance, like a circle, is never-ending. Take revenge on someone, and those close to that person will try to take revenge on you; which if successful, will prompt those close to you to take revenge on them, etc; just one big, never-ending feud. The sawblade itself likely would thus represent how when you're working with a sawblade, you always stand a risk of getting cut if you're not careful, with edges always facing toward some part of you just like how the potential of others taking revenge on you is always a risk you're running when you decide to take revenge.
Obviously, working with a sawblade as a profession probably isn't as likely to injure you due to you obviously being trained to use it and trained on safety procedures, but vengeance is usually if not always done on a whim and thus without taking any "safety procedures;" if there are any such things regarding revenge; into account.
I wonder how Female Orpheus is supposed to be interpreted
Hamuko's orpheus is the same character as Makoto's. Personas shift appearance and attributes to fit their user, this is also the explanation for the picaro personas in P5. Also a fun little fact is female Orpheus' hair looks like that because that's what Hamuko's hair looks like when it's not tied up :)
I gotta say, out of every starting persona in the entire series, Yukari’s is my favorite. What an absolutely fantastic design.
i wonder if the ancient Greeks were tired of Zeus's bullshit even in their time.
Yeah, shame he was just so strong though
Nemesis and kala nemi have weird designs, but it seems likely that they're intended to be designed after the idea of the cyclical nature of revenge, hence the circles.
Great video and research, really hoped you'd cover their ultimate Personas as well (mainly for Makoto since he's the only main character who has two, Thanatos and Messiah) but good information nonetheless.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed, and unfortunately I omitted the super personas as it would extend the video by a ton. I hope to speak more on them later though!
love Persona 3 and this vid, thanks again for making such excellent content
Nice analysis, P3 is my favorite one.
Yeah P3 above all others in the series seems to hold a lot of emotional weight to people. I hope I did it justice
@@Tony4You You did! You both did a great job explaining the symbolism and deep imagery. Gotta do my bi-yearly playthrough here soon.
Great video boys!
Thanks king 👑
Holy shit why haven't i found this channel before. I love this🙏
Better late than never! Welcome aboard
Shouldn't you also talk about the other ultimate personas? Like Messiah, Kala-Nemi, Juno, Isis, Artemisia, Trismegistus and Athena?
Orpheus leg design kinda resamble Aegis
I've always tought that Isis and Juno where massive design downgrades compared to Io and Lucia
Wow! I didn’t know you brought in Marshall from Snowboard Kids gaming for this video! That’s awesome!
We do a little gaming
If only one of the party members had Theseus as a Persona, just to hear Marsh lose his shit over another Minotaur related thing
I loved this, a lot of things were cleared up. Have you ever thought of doing Strega’s Persona’s?
I was thinking about it. They have some really interesting figures representing them
The Ceasars analysis was really good
nice explination, the inspirations and how the personas are connected to their persona users. But you forgot 3 of Makoto’s personas such as Thanatos, Orphieus Talos and The Mesiah and also Junpeo’s evolved ultimate persona when fused with Chidori’s medeia persona
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Yeah I'm really happy things are going well! I hope everyone enjoys the content
Perhaps nemesis being the mother of castor is sort of ironic, as technically it wasn't Shinjiro himself, but the out of control Castor that killed Ken's mother.
3:26 that Jack Frost, lol.
Saying that Aigis's Arcana is aeon is like saying that Akihikos is Star.
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I'd love to see a historical account of Cerberus.
Nice
Nice
2:19 Politeness is an immutable trait? You can suggest getting running shoes as a gift for a paraplegic kid, tell a different kid it's her fault her parents are getting divorced, and can tell Yuko she's fat.
I prefer p4 but p3s characters are much more interesting. Great vid!
Yeah
Can u do ending personas
well it might be a coincidence but i like to think of the blade around Nemesis` body to be a karma wheel but that's a stretch
cool
thanks
WHATTT??? THEY BECOME TGE GEMINI CONSTELLATION??? HOLY SHIT. 😳😳😳
Bruh moment right?
I wonder what Aki and Shinji's Zodiacs are
Where are Makoto's other two canonical personas? Thanatos and Messiah
I actually didn't know about makoto, yukari and mitsuru
Knowledge is power! I hope you can enjoy the series a bit more now
@@Tony4You i didn't know anything about what yukari's and mitsuru's personas are in the mythos. I knew the stories behind orpheus but didn't know what the symbolism was supposed to be. I really hope that if atlus were to release a p3 remake they would include the digital copy of that book explaining Nyx and perhaps expand on it? Like including dev commentary on the symbolism and characters or something like that
Wait, I thought it was a canon on Castor's chest
It looks like it but it is actually a reference to their original story. The broken spear tip is a nice touch to a persona not many people appreciate.
@@Tony4You Yeah, I think it's cool !
Aigis a.k.a the toaster
Persona 3 :) Persona 3 portable :pukeemoji:
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How come you didn't talk about FeMC's Orpheus? Yeah, it basically represents the same thing as the shares the exact same symbolism and elements, except with FeMC Orpheus, the center mechanical body seems to be made of gold or bronze, the face is pale white, the hair is long and orange and the lyre is shaped like a love heart. Also, one interesting thing about Hermes and Io is they've actually met each other in one story from Greek Mythology, where that story was Io was imprisoned by Hera and the prison is guarded by a giant multi-eyed monster as a form of punishment and the gods sent Hermes to rescue Io and he slayed the multi-eyed monster that was guarding her. This made me think of the interactions between Junpei and Yukari.
Non canon that doesn't even fit the story nor the mythology
@@ice1638 You don't consider stories taking place in a different timeline to be canon?
@@spydersoup8447 obviously no? The original game is in the main universe and the alternate universe character only appeared in the portable version and in a non canon spin off where no one even recognized her, so why should anyone consider her canon?
@@ice1638 Why is it that Persona can't have multiple timelines when the Megaten universe, which the Persona universe derives from, can have many, MANY alternate timelines?
Hamuko's orpheus is the same character as Makoto's. Personas shift appearance and attributes to fit their user, this is also the explanation for the picaro personas in P5. Also a fun little fact is female Orpheus' hair looks like that because that's what Hamuko's hair looks like when it's not tied up :)
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Had to do it for the series 😔
@@Tony4You YOU ARE CRINGE
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Wait
Why would anyone actually want poop in their pants?