😂😂😂😂😂😂exactly what I was thinking. Jaguar cant even keep the climate knobs working past 50K in regular cars but you want me to buy an all electric car from them.
An iPod touch from 2009 was less laggy than those climate controls. You would think that automakers would know how to make an infotainment that responds immediately to your inputs in 2018. I’m baffled that this is still a problem.
There's quite a lot of graphics to process with these multi-screen systems, not to mention background computational tasks and power management, all of which accounts for processor performance. If they really wanted to eliminate screen lag they can boost the processor speeds or multiply the core count - but that requires more battery power, so there is a tradeoff.
Matthew Hynds sorry, no. This is an inability to write correct software, nothing more nothing less. The graphics to run a zippy climate control need 5 cents worth of computing power. This was even done in 1979. There is no excuse at all for laggy 2019 product.
was thinking that. ping 200 is very generous. We used to play shooters all the time in the early 2000s with a ping of 150-170. feels more like ping of 600ms.
all the online games I play are with 300 ping... so that's definitely an improvement...... of course I also die a lot in these online games... but that's because my team mates are bad...
As a recent MX owner I'll say I'm glad to see another option in the EV world. I sat and test drove an I-pace and here's what I think: - I think it looks better than my MX - but that is subjective and not objective. - The I-pace really has no business comparing itself to an X. It's closer to the new Hyundia Kona as far as sizing. My 3 kids feel a little cramped in the X coming off a premium minivan - the I-Pace is even more cramped (especially in headroom). - The seats do feel more luxurious than the X seats unless you have the P100D seats with cooling. - The interior fit and finish is about the same (2016 Xs had new design issues - other than a tight window actuator my X has been squeak free no interior quality issues). The plastic in the jaguar looks cheaper and feels more fragile than in the X (as X has very few buttons to begin with) - Front visibility is a little bit better in the Jaguar when strictly looking at city driving. Back visibility is worse than the X because of the roof rake. The Tesla has no equal for everyone else sitting in the vehicle - my kids point things out on road trips that you can only see through the roofline or that massive windshield. - Jaguar is a little bit snappier off the line. 0-60 numbers show it about .4 seconds faster than my 75x. It's the same as a 100X though. - Jaguar feels a little bit more nimbler. I'm still afraid to scratch my new X so I baby it taking it into parking lots, the Jaguar is just smaller and easier to maneuver. - The controls on the I-pace are too laggy. Several times when testing it would wait 3 to 4 seconds when switching displays. The ergonomics of the X, in my opinion, are just unbeatable though. I did have one display crash on my X which required a reset - so music was down for 2 minutes. It's basically a giant touchscreen computer. Not sure how stable/buggy the I-pace is. - The storage/cargo space of the X is pretty much 1.5x that of the I-Pace. I'm not even sure why Jaguar even bothered with the frunk. I-pace can have a usable roof rack which the X will never have. The I-Pace toying capability is about that of a Camry. X has much better towing options and capability. - My X is the lowly/cheaper 75KWH variant. At 90% charge I have 211 miles of range which oddly was what Doug showed on the I-Pace. But the I-pace has a 90KWH battery pack. So the I-pace has much worse miles/KWH - it uses well over 400watthours/mile. That's disappointing considering it weighs less and holds 2 less seats and has a smaller cross sectional area. That's where the Jaguar styling (which I think looks better) hurts their efficiency. Obviously the I-Pace has more rolling resistance and a high drag coef as well as less optimal battery management - but they haven't been in business for 10 years like Tesla. - The most important thing for me was safety rating. I'm coming off a minivan. I don't really give a rats ass what other people think of the vehicle I'm driving short of me driving a school bus. The engineering that went into designing the Tesla clearly shows if you watch the crash videos. Basically almost no intrusion into where the battery packs are. I still don't trust the self driving system because it is unable to compensate when other humans deviate from normal behavior (like people who decide to do a U-turn on a freeway or switch across 4 lanes in 1 second - the usual driving seen here in Southern California car chase capitol of the world). It is a nice vehicle and I agree with Doug - if you're considering the other "pace" variants this one is the best. If you must have an electric and love Jaguar then go for it. if you want nearly the same capability as the I-pace at about 1/2 the cost (after tax credits) I would go for a Hyundai Kona instead. If you have the money, nothing beats the X 75, and if you need even more range the 100 is available for about 17K more. If you take road trips or have unpredictable trips then the Tesla charging network is superior to all others. Otherwise, daily charging at home is sufficient for any EV for daily use. I disagree with Doug's score though. I don't see the "value" in the I-pace. The Hyundai Kona has more value if you're strictly talking lowest price. The X has more value the second you realize you can't care luggage for you family of 5 to the airport with the I-pace, let alone 6 or 7 people.
Very, very thorough review and I hope people read your comment as well as watch Doug’s video before making any rash decisions and selling their X for an I-Pace or anything of such manner. The I-Pace has much potential but I still don’t think it’s on a Tesla level just yet, but I do believe it’s pushing the market and many, many more options that are driving close to home with Tesla are becoming readily available. Tesla continues to adapt and become better, they’ll just have to keep it up if they want to stay on top; that being said, I don’t see them going anywhere anytime soon. Tesla is here to stay and I truly believe they’ll become as common as your typical Camry within a decade.
I also own a Tesla 75D but a Model S. I agree with everything mentioned in the OP comment. I could be nice and say how good the Jag is (it's far better than all the ICE cars on the market) but if you are considering one over a Tesla, that's cool if you love Jags but Tesla is the better car hands down. I won't go into too much detail but the Jag is about on par with a Tesla from 5 years ago. Hyundai Kona EV and the new Kia EV are seriously better in many ways than this Jaguar. The Koreans are doing amazing work and will probably dominate the EV market as they seem to be far ahead in efficiency and battery technology. Dont get me wrong I love the Ipace but Teslas are VERY special cars.
That threw me off as well. If an automaker is using a screen it should work better. Also, using screens for everything makes it feel less safe in my mind as it is less intuitive to blind touch. That and the slow response make it inconvenient if you need to watch the road.
Yeah using that climate control makes the car look like it’s been used for years and is not updated. Yet it’s brand spankin new. They should be able to do better than that.
And this is a new car. We all know what happens with computers over time...they get slower and slower and buggier and buggier. Automotive industry has a reputation to use 10-15 year old IT infrastructures (in ECUs and TCMs and stuff). Now they are forced to have tablet PCs instead of normal controls. A giant leap, no wonder they can rarely get it right. God save us.
as a forklift driver who drives prim. electric driven forklifts, I can't wait to get my hands on an electric car because I am so used to just 1 pedal driving, I never touch the brakes on a forklift unless I need an instant stop for an obstacle like another forklift for example. It saves your brakes and gets you going further, it's amazing regenerative braking
An electric vehicle from a company that historically has the worst reliability of their electronic systems. I can't wait for customers reliability ratings.
Tony Tierno I have a feeling the complaints will stay based in the dashboard and not with the drivetrain. Tesla has terrible reliability ratings because they’ve gone way ambitious on engineering bits and pieces. Jaguar’s design is perhaps a little more plain. The climate control stuff will probably be the first complaint. I don’t think it’ll be significantly less reliable than your average Jag.
Tony Tierno Tesla’s product design isn’t all that fresh anymore. The luster is wearing off a little from what they had a few years ago, so their reliability issues are glossed over less than they used to be. Electric cars for the masses will definitely have their growing pains, even when made by the Germans, but the Audi offerings should be pretty appealing, not to mention those of Porsche and BMW as they try to infuse some driving fun along with electric efficiency.
Found this old video and thought I would share my experience with the 2019 IPace. In a word, it’s been fantastic. Doug accurately portrays the pros and cons of the vehicle. I shopped a Tesla model three and Y prior to buying the IPace, but couldn’t get my head around the minimalism for the sake of minimalism that is the interior of the model three and Y. The IPace interior looks like a real car. I have three screens integrated tastefully into the dash plus a heads up display, and all four of these sources of information are configurable. I have information where I need it, switches where it makes sense to have them, and where I need them, and I don’t have to go into a tacked on iPad to do literally everything on the vehicle. I have a real blindspot warning indicator in the rearview mirror, as opposed to a camera image in the lower part of the screen on the iPad in a Tesla. Try checking your left blindspot by looking down and to the right sometime. It just doesn’t work. The layout, materials, and luxury of the interior is an order of magnitude better than the Tesla with its iPad center screen that looks like an afterthought. I have leather, radar, and ultrasonic sensors which Tesla recently - and ridiculously - eschewed. I’m coming out of a 2003 Audi RS6. If you know this car, you know it’s fast and handles well. Compared to the Audi, the iPace is actually a bit quicker off the line, not quite as punchy at high speeds, and handles arguably as well. The only place where the Tesla beats the iPace is the auto pilot system. But frankly, I bought this thing so I could drive it, not be chauffeured. I’ll trade the less capable auto pilot system in The iPace for everything else it does better than the Tesla any day of the week. TH-cam should let me post a picture I took of my iPace parked next to a Model Y. The styling isn’t even close. The IPace looks fluid and organic, designed by Ian Callum, who also designed the latest Aston, Martin sports cars and the Jaguar F type. Jaguar knows how to make cars look good. Tesla knows how to make cars look like dinosaur suppositories. Sure, taste is in the eye of the beholder, but anyone who thinks that the model Y has nice proportions is, well, there’s just something wrong with them.
@@Louie_Vision No unusual battery drain. I try to keep the battery between 20% and 80% but go below or above these numbers for short periods of time on trips. I charge mainly at home (fast charging is harder on batteries than slow charging) but do fast charge on trips, but I try to avoid fast charging when the battery is above 80% as that is hardest on the battery. If out of town for a week or so I leave it at about 70% and it doesn’t seem to drain much, a couple of percent a week maybe. I have 25,000 miles on it and it still shows the advertised 230 range. All this battery management limits usable range so most long trips are taken in my ICE vehicle. The iPace is a terrific second car but like all electrics not the best for seeing Grandma if she is several hundred miles away.
@@glenwoodriverresidentsgrou136 have you had any issues with the 12v battery? I'm eyeing a 2019 with only 18k miles and the history shows that they had the 12v replaced
No 12 volt trouble but I’m thinking of trying to get them to replace the 12volt battery at the next service as it is running out of warranty. They say they only last about 5 years and it will not drive w/o the 12 volt battery working.
I wouldn't even bother with a test drive after seeing that input lag. It's unacceptable even in a significantly older car, make it work well or don't bother trying to sell it. Shame because I like the rest of the car but that trash interface is integrated into everything and makes it all useless.
I purchased a 2019 I Pace this week which had come in off lease. Amazing car that I can attest holds up well after 20,000 miles. I'm impressed that the battery does not appear to have declined at all as it's still showing 230 miles range with a full charge. I never thought of owning a Jag before as I was a little scared about British build quality. This car is built by Magna Steyr in Austria who also build the MB G wagon's, the BMW 5 series and a lot of other luxury cars. As these cars come onto the used market the represent a great value.
Five years is well within the buffer imposed on the battery capacity. You never get to drive the full range on an EV's battery-- they deliberately hold some of the battery capacity in reserve, which is gradually taken up as the battery supply degrades over time. As old cells go bad, the previously untouched cells are activated to take their place. That's why no one sees any degradation in range until 10+ years, when that buffer is finally used up.
@@davidspropaganda That's being very generous. Most people think I'm still living in the Edwardian era. These newfangled horseless carriages will never amount to a thing.
@william hummerick They choose the avatar for the same reason you choose yours and everyone else chooses theirs. It means something to them in some way or represents something they enjoy.
Nice car, but seeing how slow the interfaces move, even on the climate control buttons makes me cringe. Legacy automakers need to get a handle on software or they will soon be obsolete.
@@damonnoonan6512 That's just bad excuse. Developing an intuitive UI isn't the hardest job there is. These screen should perform the right way by receiving input by the user and then on-screen instantly change the variable so the UI always stays smooth and the user knows that he changed it. Then in the background a process will start to operate the mechanical part with the variable based on the user input for example setting the A/C to 21 degrees. The UI should never lagg and the software and hardware should be decoupled. Tesla has done this perfectly for years now.
lol you tesla fanboys are so stupid. Legacy automakers will be obsolete because of a silly animation? Clearly that's the most important part that makes or breaks a car..
@@MrMaxusy Thank you for assuming I'm a Tesla fanboy. The main reason for my argument is that all cars are "fine" now. The only thing really setting them apart is stuff like software, and this clearly sucks. And yes, animations and aesthetics do matter.
Not that I'll probably ever be able to own one, but absolutely LOVE it. Always been a 'car gal' & from the color, styling, electric/no gas.... all of it... beautiful! Thanks for sharing!!!
@@WilliamDezunchd i don't think he means the lag some people out there just are not good with touch screens as they constantly pres where they don't what to without knowing as they don't give the best tactile feed back. like some people prefer mechanical keywords over standard. as for me i don't want to by these electrics as i travel threw ice in the winter and not having the option to just let it coast without breaking or hitting the gas makes me nerves.
@@leonidas14775 Very true Yankee. But i worry about how advanced all these cars are becoming. Look at the Tesla door handles. To replace 1 broken Tesla door handle is $1000. Is that the sort of situation we want to get our selves into where it costs too much to repair our own car ?
If Doug was in the Marines: THHHHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSS is my rifle THHHHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSS is my gun THHHHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSS is for fight And THHHHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSS is for fun
@@butspan7618 here's the thing less range, British, you might be able to use Tesla infrastructure you can't super charge and there are adapters for other chargers for Tesla sooo....
@@ivybixler1717 i don't care about supercharging as i only twice in my life traveled more than 200 miles and using superchargers shortens the life of the battery and if you do travel more then 200 miles on a monthly bases i don't think a electric car is for you and if you say its all about being green wheel that brand new Tesla battery comes with 8 years of driving a standard car co2 as manufacturing battery is not Eco friendly and so is disposing of them. that is why Tesla makes there cars in a desert so you don't see it and its also cheaper to make in a hot environment. but i guess out of sight out of mind.
but span What? None of that made any sense. Tesla makes its battery packs in Nevada, but assembles their cars in Fremont, California. While the warranty on a Tesla battery lasts 8 years, Model S drivers who own 2012 and 2013 models with 100k plus miles are reporting only 5-10% degradation, meaning that battery pack could conceivably last 300k plus miles. The packs can then be recycled to make Powerwalls. The I-Pace has horrible electric efficiency, somewhere around 400 wh/mi - it’s significantly worse than the Model X and that seats 7 adults. The I-Pace is simply too heavy.
I am a Model X owner and I welcome the competition. The more uncompromised EVs are offered, the better for all EV manufacturers and the better for the infrastructure development.
A few articles that I’ve seen show the Tesla gets advertised mileage and Jaguar does not. Doug has no idea what he’s talking about by saying it’s better. Tesla battery technology is superior.
@@12ealDealOfficial sure the safety regs make it harder, but that's not why you don't have smaller trucks and cars. Just Google up a Citroen c1, it's one of the most popular cars in a lot of places in Europe and it's incredibly spacious inside for its size, actually very confortable
Looked at both the Tesla Model 3 and the Jaguar I-Pace for my next car and choose the I-Pace. That was six months ago as of May 2020 and 11 K miles the experience so far has been excellent. ZERO problems, excellent build quality, both on the in- and outside. Very comfortably ride yet very quick if you want it to be. Now the temperatures are going up, so has my rang, from about 220 miles in the winter to around 280 miles by May 2020. Am very happy I bought the I-Pace, it's simply a lot more car than a Model 3 which by now are all over the place.
I’m very late, but regardless you get way better service at Jaguar dealerships if anything were to go wrong. Sure, Jaguar hasn’t been known to make the most reliable gas/diesel cars, but EV’s are different. And when it comes to repairs, this is the better choice.
Welcome To The Madness funny thing is, most are actually very reliable. It’s just you’ve come to believe that a few bad stories mean that they’re all bad. Jags are actually very reliable and always have been.
Also drove it, liked the cockpit, loads of plastics in the back, economy drastically differs from reality. Its a good ride tho, looks are subjective. Overall I'd preffer the Audi if the Tesla is not your deal.
Awesome job! However I must take issue when you say that this car Is not an exceptional handler. They use this car practically stock for the Jaguar I pace E-trophy race series for goodness sake’s! Have you watched any of the races?? The I-Pace is a beast, a true Jaguar
@Jordi T. Because eating food specifically acidic food temporary weakens the enamel on your teeth and brushing too soon afterwards can erode the enamel over time, so you should really brush before eating and just chew some sugar free gum after eating, it's better for your teeth.
@userful1 Nothing I said was factually incorrect and I don't know which part of my comment implied that people should be "washing" their teeth "0-24", all I said was that you should brush your teeth before eating not after.
I test drove the I-Pace for 24 hours on the Gold Coast in Australia and bought one on the spot. Also sold all my shares in Tesla after the I-Pace test drive. Made some videos about my personal experience regarding the I-Pace as well. Jaguar will sell everyone they can make in the next 2 years. Tip: order yours WITHOUT air suspension if you want sports car like handling.
Blame fuckin' BMW they started it and now every car manufacturer has this cancer. Even Mitsubishi Evo is transitioning into an electric SUV crossover abomination.
@@greynolds17 nope. It's gonna be an electric crossover evo: www.greencarreports.com/news/1120179_mitsubishi-evo-rally-sedan-morphs-into-electric-crossover-concept
He didn't mention whether that massive sunroof has a shade. Does it? Didn't look like it. He has complained before about sunroofs not having shades. Just struck me as odd he didn't say anything about that.
Finally, an EV from a company that actually knows how to build cars and not fashion accessories. Even more to come from Audi and Porsche. Desirable, reliable, high-quality EVs. Good times ahead for the environment and automotive enthusiasts.
That’s why I love mine so much 19 First Edition. Even today no one knows what it is and you hardly see any around even here in SoCal while Teslas are littered everywhere. Theres no compromise from luxury, performance, styling, and tech. I miss certain features from my e tron that got totaled but the I pace is incredible.
@@Freerider93I usually charge to 85%. Costs me around $7.50. Gets me around 200 miles. If you charge fully (and the dealer seems to think that’s ok) the gauge will show 240 miles til empty. I would care if I got 100 miles on a charge. I’m just giddy when I get into the thing.
Have a tesla model S so trying to be unbiased and welcome ev competition. This has a lot going for it in terms of performance and the fact that it's cheaper. But trade off is you don't have a supercharger network, has less cargo room than model S not even X, and tech wise you can definitely tell it's behind tesla which is disappointing considering this is coming out 4 years after X. Regardless optimistic for jag and the competition!
It's pretty much in the same class as a Model Y, and yet less efficient with way less range than a Model X 2000lbs heavier. These Tesla killers can't figure out how to make a proper efficient powertrain.
Doug is the type of guy who makes car commercials on his review channel. After following Doug since his time writing with Jalopnik, this may be an end to an era and the beginning of a slow death of his content.
@@piotrwu7914 no, I own neither. But I've been watching both reviews and info- commercials for many years and I know better on that subject. My comment was a observation of Doug's video, no where in my comment did I say one car is better than the other.
@@ARentz07 It's the sloping back roofs of all the new SUVs and CUVs that annoy me. What are you going to carry back there that you couldn't fit in a sedan or mid-sized hatchback?
@@AxeActly It's clearly a hatch. It's a little bigger, like 8 inches or so longer than a golf, but it's just a slightly raised hatch. It's like a Merc GLA, but a little bigger. Quite a handsome thing.
Doug, the car doesn't have a rear wiper because the airflow over the roof passes through the rear air spoiler and down the window, which keeps the window free of dust and water. Great review. Thank you. I just sold the same HSE 30 minutes ago in Riverside!
So Jaguar decided to print their name on the vent switches like anybody cares, but they put a sticker on the sides of the car? English people at their finest.
I thought the handle was dumb too looks like one of the first things to break
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@@Adrian07z So I need to find a new winter chalet with a full garage to park my Jag in, because they designed it in a way which can't handle actual winter. Yeah, seems like a very clever design there.
@ It could handle my winter. Can't say the same thing of city dwelling peasants, though... Whatever, I don't really give a fuck, Tesla's better anyway...
Here's my taken the new offerings from the various manufacturers. There's no question that the quality of the interiors are quite possibly superior to that of the Teslas (I drive a Model 3 dual motor and also own a 2018 Mercedes E300). However there are two MAJOR components that simply do not compete yet with Tesla. One, the supercharger network. When you buy a Tesla, you also buy into their already established network of superchargers. This is invaluable because you're only competing with other Teslas for charging as opposed to competing with say a leaf or a volt or basically any other EV. Also the Tesla network is incorporated into your maps on the GPS in the car. It will even show you real time supercharger availability so that you don't go there for nothing and have to wait. And this is where point number two comes in.....The technology. In my Model 3, I have a huge screen which is almost exactly like a huge iPad and works in the same manner as well. Tesla offers over-the-air updates which no other car I have seen to date does. In other words, once you buy this I-Pace, you're pretty much stuck with the features it came with. Teslas evolve over time with new features just like the iPhone has. In the two months I have had my Model 3, I have more features now than what I started with! And the easy of use of the screen is simply pure joy. I can request GPS directions to home or work with one swipe of my finger and the speed at which it does the calculation is incredible. Also, no other system that I have tried to date beats the Tesla Autopilot system. Look at how they still offer a key fob to enter the car. The Tesla key is my phone! So that's one less thing I have to carry in my pocket. And if that doesn't work, Tesla gives you a literal "credit card" that opens your doors and "starts" the car. Why can't these "luxury" car manufacturers do that?? Yes, the Jaguar and even the Audi may be more impressive in terms of luxury appointments, but the tech is still old school. It's old school thinking. Tesla is definitely more forward thinking. Just my .02c.
That screen is a giant safety problem and tesla have been told many times, and yes the super charger network is nice, but how often do you really use it?
I can't agree with you more. If I can I'll giVe you ten thumb ups. The supercharging network, the autopilot, over the air update, the phone key, and how minimal and efficient the interior is, it's all so modern and futurist that no competitors at this point can even compete with. Once you have a Tesla, you never think about other cars.
I got to spend a few days with The I Pace back in June as part of their launch training. We got a good amount of time behind the wheel on city streets, highways & on track against the model X. Since then I’ve been saying what Doug basically reported. The iPace is really good.
@Zack Smith just like the first teslas 🤣. Gotta say for a first Gen product this is extremely well put together. Most luxury cars are leased, so it doesn't really matter.
@@davideselvi3906 Not if you want to tow something. The 750 kg tow rating for the ipace is ridiculously small for an SUV. The model X tows 2250 kg. Even the model 3 has a higher tow rating (910 kg).
The front seat is also where I would sit when I'm driving we have so much in common
he was saying that because of the position on the seat to prove how much leg room he has in the back
by 'where' he meant position of the seat
People don't have a clue it was a joke. I find this hilarious. Very weird quirks you people. You get a 2 out of 10.
@@ttin0 ah i see... the joke was too good for me to get it
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8:10 did anybody else notice how slow and laggy the climate control graphics were?...
Yup, it painful to watch hahaha
I was thinking the same. Wayyyyy too laggy
No, I didn't notice it.. Maybe because I was lagging myself.. xD
It's 2018 and this is an expensive luxury car, there's no excuse for them to be cheaping out on computing hardware
That’s really bad...
Front trunk is where you keep extra motor oil, obviously.
Ian Colquhoun Well obviously
or the baby oil in dougs case......
You mean the break light fluid?
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Doug the type of guy to make reverse sounds when going backwards with a cart at the grocery store
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Doug’s the type of guy to bring back your electric car with a full tank of gas
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Journalists : "British cars are known for their bad electronics in cars and it's unreliability"
*Jaguar makes an electric car*
Journalists : *Gasp*
Jaguar are Indian and yes they really shouldn't make a electric vehicles considering how unreliable their current vehicles are.
😂😂😂😂😂😂exactly what I was thinking. Jaguar cant even keep the climate knobs working past 50K in regular cars but you want me to buy an all electric car from them.
Find better journalists; not one that use hackneyed cliches.
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@@mkvgti200bhp exactly
An iPod touch from 2009 was less laggy than those climate controls. You would think that automakers would know how to make an infotainment that responds immediately to your inputs in 2018. I’m baffled that this is still a problem.
There's quite a lot of graphics to process with these multi-screen systems, not to mention background computational tasks and power management, all of which accounts for processor performance. If they really wanted to eliminate screen lag they can boost the processor speeds or multiply the core count - but that requires more battery power, so there is a tradeoff.
it could've been the camera,ya never know.
@@MultiWalrus1 Ye but Tesla.....
Matthew Hynds sorry, no. This is an inability to write correct software, nothing more nothing less. The graphics to run a zippy climate control need 5 cents worth of computing power. This was even done in 1979. There is no excuse at all for laggy 2019 product.
I don't need an infotainment system.
I test drove one today, I was very impressed.
The climate controls feel like playing an online game with 200 ping
was thinking that. ping 200 is very generous. We used to play shooters all the time in the early 2000s with a ping of 150-170. feels more like ping of 600ms.
This actually looks very similar to the Velar.
all the online games I play are with 300 ping... so that's definitely an improvement......
of course I also die a lot in these online games... but that's because my team mates are bad...
But if it didn't have crappy electronics, would it really be a Jaguar?
@@malter87 know that feeling. I live in Australia now and that means to say goodbye to most online games...
As a recent MX owner I'll say I'm glad to see another option in the EV world. I sat and test drove an I-pace and here's what I think:
- I think it looks better than my MX - but that is subjective and not objective.
- The I-pace really has no business comparing itself to an X. It's closer to the new Hyundia Kona as far as sizing. My 3 kids feel a little cramped in the X coming off a premium minivan - the I-Pace is even more cramped (especially in headroom).
- The seats do feel more luxurious than the X seats unless you have the P100D seats with cooling.
- The interior fit and finish is about the same (2016 Xs had new design issues - other than a tight window actuator my X has been squeak free no interior quality issues). The plastic in the jaguar looks cheaper and feels more fragile than in the X (as X has very few buttons to begin with)
- Front visibility is a little bit better in the Jaguar when strictly looking at city driving. Back visibility is worse than the X because of the roof rake. The Tesla has no equal for everyone else sitting in the vehicle - my kids point things out on road trips that you can only see through the roofline or that massive windshield.
- Jaguar is a little bit snappier off the line. 0-60 numbers show it about .4 seconds faster than my 75x. It's the same as a 100X though.
- Jaguar feels a little bit more nimbler. I'm still afraid to scratch my new X so I baby it taking it into parking lots, the Jaguar is just smaller and easier to maneuver.
- The controls on the I-pace are too laggy. Several times when testing it would wait 3 to 4 seconds when switching displays. The ergonomics of the X, in my opinion, are just unbeatable though. I did have one display crash on my X which required a reset - so music was down for 2 minutes. It's basically a giant touchscreen computer. Not sure how stable/buggy the I-pace is.
- The storage/cargo space of the X is pretty much 1.5x that of the I-Pace. I'm not even sure why Jaguar even bothered with the frunk. I-pace can have a usable roof rack which the X will never have. The I-Pace toying capability is about that of a Camry. X has much better towing options and capability.
- My X is the lowly/cheaper 75KWH variant. At 90% charge I have 211 miles of range which oddly was what Doug showed on the I-Pace. But the I-pace has a 90KWH battery pack. So the I-pace has much worse miles/KWH - it uses well over 400watthours/mile. That's disappointing considering it weighs less and holds 2 less seats and has a smaller cross sectional area. That's where the Jaguar styling (which I think looks better) hurts their efficiency. Obviously the I-Pace has more rolling resistance and a high drag coef as well as less optimal battery management - but they haven't been in business for 10 years like Tesla.
- The most important thing for me was safety rating. I'm coming off a minivan. I don't really give a rats ass what other people think of the vehicle I'm driving short of me driving a school bus. The engineering that went into designing the Tesla clearly shows if you watch the crash videos. Basically almost no intrusion into where the battery packs are. I still don't trust the self driving system because it is unable to compensate when other humans deviate from normal behavior (like people who decide to do a U-turn on a freeway or switch across 4 lanes in 1 second - the usual driving seen here in Southern California car chase capitol of the world).
It is a nice vehicle and I agree with Doug - if you're considering the other "pace" variants this one is the best. If you must have an electric and love Jaguar then go for it. if you want nearly the same capability as the I-pace at about 1/2 the cost (after tax credits) I would go for a Hyundai Kona instead. If you have the money, nothing beats the X 75, and if you need even more range the 100 is available for about 17K more. If you take road trips or have unpredictable trips then the Tesla charging network is superior to all others. Otherwise, daily charging at home is sufficient for any EV for daily use.
I disagree with Doug's score though. I don't see the "value" in the I-pace. The Hyundai Kona has more value if you're strictly talking lowest price. The X has more value the second you realize you can't care luggage for you family of 5 to the airport with the I-pace, let alone 6 or 7 people.
Nice well articulated reasoning.
Very, very thorough review and I hope people read your comment as well as watch Doug’s video before making any rash decisions and selling their X for an I-Pace or anything of such manner. The I-Pace has much potential but I still don’t think it’s on a Tesla level just yet, but I do believe it’s pushing the market and many, many more options that are driving close to home with Tesla are becoming readily available. Tesla continues to adapt and become better, they’ll just have to keep it up if they want to stay on top; that being said, I don’t see them going anywhere anytime soon. Tesla is here to stay and I truly believe they’ll become as common as your typical Camry within a decade.
Can you do this as a book XD
I also own a Tesla 75D but a Model S. I agree with everything mentioned in the OP comment.
I could be nice and say how good the Jag is (it's far better than all the ICE cars on the market) but if you are considering one over a Tesla, that's cool if you love Jags but Tesla is the better car hands down. I won't go into too much detail but the Jag is about on par with a Tesla from 5 years ago.
Hyundai Kona EV and the new Kia EV are seriously better in many ways than this Jaguar. The Koreans are doing amazing work and will probably dominate the EV market as they seem to be far ahead in efficiency and battery technology. Dont get me wrong I love the Ipace but Teslas are VERY special cars.
DID YOU *WRITE* ALL OF THAT
I don’t know Doug, just watching that screen lagginess makes this SUV look less important
That threw me off as well. If an automaker is using a screen it should work better. Also, using screens for everything makes it feel less safe in my mind as it is less intuitive to blind touch. That and the slow response make it inconvenient if you need to watch the road.
Yeah using that climate control makes the car look like it’s been used for years and is not updated. Yet it’s brand spankin new. They should be able to do better than that.
My Honda civic has that problem too! But wait it's a Honda civic.
Nick Kritikakos a
And this is a new car. We all know what happens with computers over time...they get slower and slower and buggier and buggier. Automotive industry has a reputation to use 10-15 year old IT infrastructures (in ECUs and TCMs and stuff). Now they are forced to have tablet PCs instead of normal controls. A giant leap, no wonder they can rarely get it right. God save us.
as a forklift driver who drives prim. electric driven forklifts, I can't wait to get my hands on an electric car because I am so used to just 1 pedal driving, I never touch the brakes on a forklift unless I need an instant stop for an obstacle like another forklift for example.
It saves your brakes and gets you going further, it's amazing regenerative braking
Only 11 likes (so far)? Not many stacker drivers here then.
lol just ride your forklift cars are meant to have engines.
@@V8_screw_electric_cars lol. Fork lifts can have an engine or a large battery where the engine would be. Please take your ignorance and shove it.
@@arthurjarrett1604 I'm not ignorant but you are if you compare forklift to a car?
@@V8_screw_electric_cars Seriously? Re-read the fucking comments, moron! This is the only comment I've even used the word "car".
An electric vehicle from a company that historically has the worst reliability of their electronic systems. I can't wait for customers reliability ratings.
Tony Tierno I have a feeling the complaints will stay based in the dashboard and not with the drivetrain. Tesla has terrible reliability ratings because they’ve gone way ambitious on engineering bits and pieces. Jaguar’s design is perhaps a little more plain. The climate control stuff will probably be the first complaint. I don’t think it’ll be significantly less reliable than your average Jag.
@@wilmotown yes, as reliable as an average jag. Tesla is horrible as of late. Waiting on audi's product for comparison.
Tony Tierno Tesla’s product design isn’t all that fresh anymore. The luster is wearing off a little from what they had a few years ago, so their reliability issues are glossed over less than they used to be. Electric cars for the masses will definitely have their growing pains, even when made by the Germans, but the Audi offerings should be pretty appealing, not to mention those of Porsche and BMW as they try to infuse some driving fun along with electric efficiency.
One word for you regarding Jaguar electrics and bad reliability: Lucas
all the blame for shite electronics is on Lucas tho
Doug the type of the guy to stop on a red light in gta 5
Leleeeeeee
Doug the type of guy to rev up a tesla
in a tunnel
Just to hear the turbo spool up
Rev up your Teslas!
Found this old video and thought I would share my experience with the 2019 IPace. In a word, it’s been fantastic. Doug accurately portrays the pros and cons of the vehicle. I shopped a Tesla model three and Y prior to buying the IPace, but couldn’t get my head around the minimalism for the sake of minimalism that is the interior of the model three and Y. The IPace interior looks like a real car. I have three screens integrated tastefully into the dash plus a heads up display, and all four of these sources of information are configurable. I have information where I need it, switches where it makes sense to have them, and where I need them, and I don’t have to go into a tacked on iPad to do literally everything on the vehicle. I have a real blindspot warning indicator in the rearview mirror, as opposed to a camera image in the lower part of the screen on the iPad in a Tesla. Try checking your left blindspot by looking down and to the right sometime. It just doesn’t work. The layout, materials, and luxury of the interior is an order of magnitude better than the Tesla with its iPad center screen that looks like an afterthought. I have leather, radar, and ultrasonic sensors which Tesla recently - and ridiculously - eschewed. I’m coming out of a 2003 Audi RS6. If you know this car, you know it’s fast and handles well. Compared to the Audi, the iPace is actually a bit quicker off the line, not quite as punchy at high speeds, and handles arguably as well. The only place where the Tesla beats the iPace is the auto pilot system. But frankly, I bought this thing so I could drive it, not be chauffeured. I’ll trade the less capable auto pilot system in The iPace for everything else it does better than the Tesla any day of the week. TH-cam should let me post a picture I took of my iPace parked next to a Model Y. The styling isn’t even close. The IPace looks fluid and organic, designed by Ian Callum, who also designed the latest Aston, Martin sports cars and the Jaguar F type. Jaguar knows how to make cars look good. Tesla knows how to make cars look like dinosaur suppositories. Sure, taste is in the eye of the beholder, but anyone who thinks that the model Y has nice proportions is, well, there’s just something wrong with them.
Love our 19 HSE, been waiting for this car since they came out.
Have you had any issues with the battery draining faster than usual?
@@Louie_Vision No unusual battery drain. I try to keep the battery between 20% and 80% but go below or above these numbers for short periods of time on trips. I charge mainly at home (fast charging is harder on batteries than slow charging) but do fast charge on trips, but I try to avoid fast charging when the battery is above 80% as that is hardest on the battery. If out of town for a week or so I leave it at about 70% and it doesn’t seem to drain much, a couple of percent a week maybe. I have 25,000 miles on it and it still shows the advertised 230 range. All this battery management limits usable range so most long trips are taken in my ICE vehicle. The iPace is a terrific second car but like all electrics not the best for seeing Grandma if she is several hundred miles away.
@@glenwoodriverresidentsgrou136 have you had any issues with the 12v battery? I'm eyeing a 2019 with only 18k miles and the history shows that they had the 12v replaced
No 12 volt trouble but I’m thinking of trying to get them to replace the 12volt battery at the next service as it is running out of warranty. They say they only last about 5 years and it will not drive w/o the 12 volt battery working.
I like its looks but really a SUV? Hardly, more like a hatchback.
An obese hatchback.
thats why its called a crossover, aka American wet dream for whatever reason
When a hatchback has too much cholesterol
It is not a SUV. The Jaguar I-Pace has the same dimensions as the Tesla Model 3. Hardly a Model X competitor.
A morbidly obese hatchback
Whats with all the horrible lag on touchscreen and air controls?
ikr that would drive me insane, its like a 10 year old phone
I wouldn't even bother with a test drive after seeing that input lag. It's unacceptable even in a significantly older car, make it work well or don't bother trying to sell it. Shame because I like the rest of the car but that trash interface is integrated into everything and makes it all useless.
I noticed that too, but weird enough my dad's i-pace has a p damn snappy touchscreen,l with barely any inputlag
@@frankthetankricard I test drove one the other day, there was no perceptible lag when using the infotainment system.
Noticed that too
The lag on the control screens, biggest comfort killer.
nobody talks about the lag
And that you cant see any of the screens in sunlight. Good thing most of these wont be sold in sunny California....ohhh wait
I still don'tt get why so many cars have such lag. My 15 year old satnav is the same... Phones don't lag, just make the fucking screen like the them.
I'd rather have no animations than this lag. 300 dollar phone would run Android better than this
Jag lag
Don't really consider this an SUV, it's a slightly lifted hatchback. Sweet car!
I am actually like this type of car. An actual lifted hatchback without altering the body panel.
Totally agree. Not an SUV. And that's a good thing.
@@benjaminsmith2287 absolutely!
Justin M suvs are just boxy, lifted wagons lol
@@mmacphersonn wagons are the best, especially lifted wagons hahaha
If I wanted a Jag, i'd get an xjr from the 90s, then spend the rest on repairs
Or an XF
Or an XJ220.
playloud247 there isn’t an xj220 that costs $60K (nowadays)
Fair point. The OP didn't mention anything about price though ;) @@UAE_8100
Nah the 2 seater v12 from the 90s
Doug the type of guy who orders water as dessert.
Then sends it back because it’s too spicy
@@Greg-TC and then fucks the waiter. *plot twist*
Ah, the new Jaguar Eye Paste.
How does this only have 3 likes? Funny shit.
There’s also the eat paste
Harkonar Wasn’t their last car the F Face?
😂😂😂made my day
than the funny paste, the most average suv on the market today
I purchased a 2019 I Pace this week which had come in off lease. Amazing car that I can attest holds up well after 20,000 miles. I'm impressed that the battery does not appear to have declined at all as it's still showing 230 miles range with a full charge. I never thought of owning a Jag before as I was a little scared about British build quality. This car is built by Magna Steyr in Austria who also build the MB G wagon's, the BMW 5 series and a lot of other luxury cars. As these cars come onto the used market the represent a great value.
Five years is well within the buffer imposed on the battery capacity.
You never get to drive the full range on an EV's battery-- they deliberately hold some of the battery capacity in reserve, which is gradually taken up as the battery supply degrades over time. As old cells go bad, the previously untouched cells are activated to take their place. That's why no one sees any degradation in range until 10+ years, when that buffer is finally used up.
Doug is the kind of guy to read his ps4 a bedtime story before putting it in rest mode.
Apple Jelly haha! He doesn’t seem like a gamer to me tho
*Doug, the type of guy to lick his finger when he turns the page on his iPad.*
Repost
Doug the type of guy to eat fries with a fork and knife.
Doug, the type of guys to eat his stake with ketchup
Oscar Hernandez steak bud
“Doug the type of guy” comments are dead.
Doug is the type of Guy To Drag Race 2 shopping Carts In Target
I got to drive the i-pace and i loved it
An electric Jaguar... What could go wrong? 🙄
haha, exactly!
x=electric
y=jaguar
x+y= pos
It's made in Austria by Magna Steyr so probably not much.
@@planespeaking Well that's reassuring. I just hope there aren't any Lucas electrics lurking behind the hi-tech facade.
@@kylewinn5800 Lucas probably built the laggy climate knobs.
@@davidspropaganda That's being very generous. Most people think I'm still living in the Edwardian era. These newfangled horseless carriages will never amount to a thing.
SUV??? Ehh I don't really think so, maybe cross-over? There's as much ground clearance on that as a Prius.
RambleOn1970 It has air suspension, no? It will raise up, if it does.
I can see that it does have air suspension.
Wow the AC displays are so laggy...
@Jared's Garage I have one. He's correct. they are laggy.
Doug the kind of guy that gets scared of dark wallpapers
*DOUG IS THE KIND OF GUY WHO IS SICK & TIRED OF THESE INFANTILE REMARKS!!!* th-cam.com/video/vQZNOvIEN78/w-d-xo.html
Doug, the type of guy to lick his fingers before turning a owners manual page.
lol
The type of guy to lick his finger before turning the page on his Kindle
Dude its Monday.. Thanks! :D
I am surprised that he uploaded a video on a Monday
Well, he needs to pay the Ford GT debt.
Oh, Don't even! Doug always posts videos most every Monday...
*THIS* is a stapler: th-cam.com/video/l7Ht3xhLqXQ/w-d-xo.html ...
@william hummerick They choose the avatar for the same reason you choose yours and everyone else chooses theirs. It means something to them in some way or represents something they enjoy.
Doug is a guy
who wears two shirts
yes
Big if true
I'd hope
Doug is a
Seats look amazing compared to the Teslas.
I don't like the seats in the Tesla S. Uugghh.
Yes, and real leather not that vegan stuff.
@@srobel7 Indeed, man, indeed.
@@manoman0 ugly shit seat
@@rolutarboi1306 looks wise are meh but comfort wise they’re honestly so good IMO only volvos are better.
Is it just me or were those knob displays super laggy, especially when chaging UIs...
its all over-engineered gimmicky stuff now
subscribe to me
they are. Bjorn Nyland confirmed that too.
doug the type of guy who makes eye contact while eating a banana
💀
I'd want that from doug😪
now thats funny!
Nice car, but seeing how slow the interfaces move, even on the climate control buttons makes me cringe. Legacy automakers need to get a handle on software or they will soon be obsolete.
yeah it is ridiculous. The asking price is $70k and an old smartphone (~$100) can outperform these things.
@@damonnoonan6512 So how does Tesla pull it off? And you can change the actual fan speed in the background and show animation in real time.
@@damonnoonan6512 That's just bad excuse. Developing an intuitive UI isn't the hardest job there is. These screen should perform the right way by receiving input by the user and then on-screen instantly change the variable so the UI always stays smooth and the user knows that he changed it. Then in the background a process will start to operate the mechanical part with the variable based on the user input for example setting the A/C to 21 degrees. The UI should never lagg and the software and hardware should be decoupled. Tesla has done this perfectly for years now.
lol you tesla fanboys are so stupid. Legacy automakers will be obsolete because of a silly animation? Clearly that's the most important part that makes or breaks a car..
@@MrMaxusy Thank you for assuming I'm a Tesla fanboy. The main reason for my argument is that all cars are "fine" now. The only thing really setting them apart is stuff like software, and this clearly sucks. And yes, animations and aesthetics do matter.
Not that I'll probably ever be able to own one, but absolutely LOVE it. Always been a 'car gal' & from the color, styling, electric/no gas.... all of it... beautiful! Thanks for sharing!!!
All those touchscreens in the newest cars are really bothering me
Tesla's screen doesnt lag like this garbage
@@WilliamDezunchd well for $4000 to replace the Tesla screen it shouldnt lag
@@WilliamDezunchd i don't think he means the lag some people out there just are not good with touch screens as they constantly pres where they don't what to without knowing as they don't give the best tactile feed back. like some people prefer mechanical keywords over standard. as for me i don't want to by these electrics as i travel threw ice in the winter and not having the option to just let it coast without breaking or hitting the gas makes me nerves.
A knob breaks, you lose one feature. The touchscreen breaks and everything it controlled is unusable.
@@leonidas14775 Very true Yankee. But i worry about how advanced all these cars are becoming. Look at the Tesla door handles. To replace 1 broken Tesla door handle is $1000. Is that the sort of situation we want to get our selves into where it costs too much to repair our own car ?
20:45 Doug DeMuro is a type of guy who looks at a Model X while reviewing an I Pace.
Redline Gaming The fact that you caught onto that is scary...
@@BrodyHarris right like how are people so observant over the most minute and pointless details
@@jason854656 I know Forreal
He's the type of guy to pull up to a gas station in a Tesla
lol
If Doug was in the Marines:
THHHHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSS is my rifle
THHHHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSS is my gun
THHHHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSS is for fight
And THHHHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSS is for fun
Matt B this is sheer genius
*THISS* is a 2018 M27 IAR
ONE TWO THREE FOUR
I LOVE MARINE CORPS
This car looks so beautiful....
Doug is the type of guy to tell his doctor his weight in Newtons
Physics joke. I like it
I prefer Fig Newtons
No. A Newton is a measure of force. Physics fail.
meabn007 The WEIGHT of an object is equal to (mass)(gravity). Hence the force of gravity is another way to say “weight”
@@meabn007 that's literally the joke. Weight ≠ mass. Weight is the force of something on the ground.
Out-Tesla Tesla with less efficiency and no charging infrastructure?
how is it less efficient second with adopters it can use Tesla infrastructure like Chevy bolts do
@@butspan7618 here's the thing less range, British, you might be able to use Tesla infrastructure you can't super charge and there are adapters for other chargers for Tesla sooo....
I agree the charging infrastructure is a huge plus for Tesla
@@ivybixler1717 i don't care about supercharging as i only twice in my life traveled more than 200 miles and using superchargers shortens the life of the battery and if you do travel more then 200 miles on a monthly bases i don't think a electric car is for you and if you say its all about being green wheel that brand new Tesla battery comes with 8 years of driving a standard car co2 as manufacturing battery is not Eco friendly and so is disposing of them. that is why Tesla makes there cars in a desert so you don't see it and its also cheaper to make in a hot environment. but i guess out of sight out of mind.
but span What? None of that made any sense. Tesla makes its battery packs in Nevada, but assembles their cars in Fremont, California. While the warranty on a Tesla battery lasts 8 years, Model S drivers who own 2012 and 2013 models with 100k plus miles are reporting only 5-10% degradation, meaning that battery pack could conceivably last 300k plus miles. The packs can then be recycled to make Powerwalls.
The I-Pace has horrible electric efficiency, somewhere around 400 wh/mi - it’s significantly worse than the Model X and that seats 7 adults. The I-Pace is simply too heavy.
I am a Model X owner and I welcome the competition. The more uncompromised EVs are offered, the better for all EV manufacturers and the better for the infrastructure development.
Like the Tesla--but the price is quite up there for most.
i am one too but other ev's are trash
I-Pace is not a real competitor. There are more Model Xs sold than all Jaguar models combined.
I drive mine from LA to ABQ twice a month. I don't think I could do that with the Jag.
A few articles that I’ve seen show the Tesla gets advertised mileage and Jaguar does not. Doug has no idea what he’s talking about by saying it’s better. Tesla battery technology is superior.
Jaguar I Pace is by far the most awarded car of the year.Kudos Jaguar.
It looks more like a fat hatchback than an SUV.
Set suspension to low and pretend it isn't an SUV.
Looks like an ugly Maserati
I'm sick of all vehicles looking like this. Those new safety regs gotta go so we can have small cars and trucks again.
@@12ealDealOfficial sure the safety regs make it harder, but that's not why you don't have smaller trucks and cars. Just Google up a Citroen c1, it's one of the most popular cars in a lot of places in Europe and it's incredibly spacious inside for its size, actually very confortable
Filipe Saramago Maserati are ugly not saying this jag is good looking but Maserati are one of the ugliest manufacturers
Now can you review the Hyundai Kona Electric and the Kia Niro Electric?
Skylar Parks are you sure, they are avaliable in the us?
@@romamoskovskiy They will be soon!
Soul!
Doug do not choose cars to review the cars choose Doug
No.
Doug is the kind of guy who orders a pizza for the box.
Quirks and features! 😁
I subbed , awaiting quirks and features. Lol
And the little table inside
@@michaelrossi3707
That's the best bit
Can you do a video about all the quirks and features about your “quirks and features” channel 😂
Looked at both the Tesla Model 3 and the Jaguar I-Pace for my next car and choose the I-Pace.
That was six months ago as of May 2020 and 11 K miles the experience so far has been excellent. ZERO problems, excellent build quality, both on the in- and outside. Very comfortably ride yet very quick if you want it to be.
Now the temperatures are going up, so has my rang, from about 220 miles in the winter to around 280 miles by May 2020.
Am very happy I bought the I-Pace, it's simply a lot more car than a Model 3 which by now are all over the place.
Thank you. I'm dealing with this dilemma right now
I’m very late, but regardless you get way better service at Jaguar dealerships if anything were to go wrong. Sure, Jaguar hasn’t been known to make the most reliable gas/diesel cars, but EV’s are different. And when it comes to repairs, this is the better choice.
7:16 it's not a decal. Jaguar is painted on, it's just a recall was put out to stop the letters fading, so a protective cover is on.
The British reliability waiting to happen...
Welcome To The Madness funny thing is, most are actually very reliable. It’s just you’ve come to believe that a few bad stories mean that they’re all bad. Jags are actually very reliable and always have been.
Welcome To The Madness see the engine always broke so they removed it and left the starter motor on there to drive the car. Problem solved.
The same could be said from the usa 😅 ps im from neither countries pss dont mind my name
@@Ben_Mayall XD im pretty sure you know 0 jag owners. i actually know one who drove his daily driver jaguar for 10 days in 2013. 355 in the shop.
Ben Mayall so I could take a chance on a used F Type R without worrying too much?
Also drove it, liked the cockpit, loads of plastics in the back, economy drastically differs from reality. Its a good ride tho, looks are subjective.
Overall I'd preffer the Audi if the Tesla is not your deal.
Awesome job! However I must take issue when you say that this car Is not an exceptional handler. They use this car practically stock for the Jaguar I pace E-trophy race series for goodness sake’s! Have you watched any of the races?? The I-Pace is a beast, a true Jaguar
Jaguar vs Tesla: Battle of Unreliability
Concise Victory in Rome2
L O FUCKING L.
The British vs American
They are unfortunately lol....jag after all is part of Ford and Lincoln, and those both suck in reliability, especially electronics.
Doug the type of guy to be terrified of a wallpaper because it's dark.
@Farris TheLaggy At least you took the time to realize it wasn't before commenting :D
The new Jaguar Electric Sports Minivan 😉
I hate Eletric cars, but this at least looks better than the model x
@@marciliojunior4919 The X is a full size 7 seater, he should have compared it to the Model S.
he forgot to say that the model x can do 155 miles per hour while the i pace cant even do 120, and the model x is significantly bigger
so really it evens out
@@marciliojunior4919 I hate electric cars too!
Doug the kind of guy that saves half a yoplait for after Gilmore Girls
Doug the type of guy to brush his teeth before eating
Alexis Octavio Terrazas H. So you don't?
@@supercoolguygamer9239 why would one do that?
@Jordi T. Because eating food specifically acidic food temporary weakens the enamel on your teeth and brushing too soon afterwards can erode the enamel over time, so you should really brush before eating and just chew some sugar free gum after eating, it's better for your teeth.
@userful1 Nothing I said was factually incorrect and I don't know which part of my comment implied that people should be "washing" their teeth "0-24", all I said was that you should brush your teeth before eating not after.
userful1 sssshhhhhh, you’re embarrassing yourself.
I’m here for the quirks and features
#MeToo !
Doug the type of guy to never read comments
I know he has responded to one of mine and this is one of those dumn jokes just a really bad one
Doug NOTICE ME
He is the guy who writes "Doug is the Type of guy" comments
I test drove the I-Pace for 24 hours on the Gold Coast in Australia and bought one on the spot. Also sold all my shares in Tesla after the I-Pace test drive. Made some videos about my personal experience regarding the I-Pace as well. Jaguar will sell everyone they can make in the next 2 years. Tip: order yours WITHOUT air suspension if you want sports car like handling.
Can we stop calling these ugly oversized hatchbacks "SUVs"
D Thank you, it is like little bit bigger compact
Like lifted civic
Blame fuckin' BMW they started it and now every car manufacturer has this cancer. Even Mitsubishi Evo is transitioning into an electric SUV crossover abomination.
@@playloud247 thats the eclipse
which isnt electric
@@greynolds17 nope. It's gonna be an electric crossover evo: www.greencarreports.com/news/1120179_mitsubishi-evo-rally-sedan-morphs-into-electric-crossover-concept
Amen. Can car makers stop making them!?!?! Sick of this fat car trend...
12:09 Doug, you can barely fit, tf u mean u can sit there no problem
A budget airline seat offers more space lol
He was getting paid good by Jaguar for this review.
@@tpadgeezy230 I'm starting to believe that
He didn't mention whether that massive sunroof has a shade. Does it? Didn't look like it. He has complained before about sunroofs not having shades. Just struck me as odd he didn't say anything about that.
@@lordhumongous371 The check from Jaguar provided enough shade for him.
Finally, an EV from a company that actually knows how to build cars and not fashion accessories. Even more to come from Audi and Porsche. Desirable, reliable, high-quality EVs. Good times ahead for the environment and automotive enthusiasts.
Weird seeing Jaguar and Reliable in one sentence
I own one and it’s magnificent. It silently eats up almost anything on the road while it turns heads of the most discriminating car owners.
That’s why I love mine so much 19 First Edition. Even today no one knows what it is and you hardly see any around even here in SoCal while Teslas are littered everywhere. Theres no compromise from luxury, performance, styling, and tech. I miss certain features from my e tron that got totaled but the I pace is incredible.
I'm thinking about getting a used 2019 how has the battery life been?
@@Freerider93I usually charge to 85%. Costs me around $7.50. Gets me around 200 miles. If you charge fully (and the dealer seems to think that’s ok) the gauge will show 240 miles til empty. I would care if I got 100 miles on a charge. I’m just giddy when I get into the thing.
@@kd5322 when you bought it used did you get the battery report before you purchased it?
Have a tesla model S so trying to be unbiased and welcome ev competition. This has a lot going for it in terms of performance and the fact that it's cheaper. But trade off is you don't have a supercharger network, has less cargo room than model S not even X, and tech wise you can definitely tell it's behind tesla which is disappointing considering this is coming out 4 years after X. Regardless optimistic for jag and the competition!
A 2013 Tesla P85 is more advanced than the top of the line mercedes that will come out two years from now...
The Jaguar is a lot better looking though, so if you want to look fly it is the EV to get.
Also the Jaguar has a much better interior than any Tesla.
@@lan6947
Welcome to 2001!
Shiney buttons and screen lag!
@Robert Blackford
Just ones that work
My $29 Chinese el cheapo tablet is faster than those Jaguar screens.
Savage
But will it be as durable and reliable as the screen on the Jaguar?
@@mayhempatel ... I see what you did there ... :=]
Which is ironic as JLR has outsourced its interior electrics out to the distinctly non 'el chepo' Panasonic for the last few years.
@@mayhempatel Reliable and Jaguar don't belong in the same sentence.
The meaning and concept of SUV has changed a lot not sure if this is evolution or overkill
Clearly evolution. Best of hatchback and SUV.
SUVs ARE overkill
SUV = Crossover
this honestly just looks like a hatch back with big rims
Official car of Waymo. I'm not picky.
but its not an SUV
A crossover actually
It's more an SUV than a Tesla X
So what it is?
@@vladvulcan a big sedan, an suv should have plenty of room and multi-terrain features by his definition. Sport - Utility - Vehicle
davimatte0 this is all terrain, is warranty covered to go off-road and even ford through a few inches of water...
That is way smaller than the Model X...
It's pretty much in the same class as a Model Y, and yet less efficient with way less range than a Model X 2000lbs heavier. These Tesla killers can't figure out how to make a proper efficient powertrain.
It’s actually significantly smaller than a model S
@@Singuy888 we don't know how big the Model Y will be.
Musk said it's based off the Model 3 like how the X is based off the Model S. So we know it's a 5 seater compact SUV like this Ipace.
Doug is the type of guy who makes car commercials on his review channel.
After following Doug since his time writing with Jalopnik, this may be an end to an era and the beginning of a slow death of his content.
You have this car and also model x and you konw better?
@@piotrwu7914 no, I own neither. But I've been watching both reviews and info- commercials for many years and I know better on that subject. My comment was a observation of Doug's video, no where in my comment did I say one car is better than the other.
Finally in 2019 an auto company has hired ux/iu designers to design the usually horrific car interfaces.
The term SUV is used so loosely
These things labeled as SUV or CUV are just weird big cars. I will probably annoy some commentators by saying so but whatever.
It's more like a Subaru SUS (sport utility sedan)
I was thinking the same thing. "Crossover" might work better for this car. Maybe. It's low.
@@ARentz07 It's the sloping back roofs of all the new SUVs and CUVs that annoy me. What are you going to carry back there that you couldn't fit in a sedan or mid-sized hatchback?
Hey, at least this one had all wheel drive
That HVAC adjusting dial appears to be super laggy.
That is not an SUV Doug it's more like a hatch back
That's me
Yeah sure a Hatchback... As much as a class A is a wagon
@@AxeActly It's clearly a hatch. It's a little bigger, like 8 inches or so longer than a golf, but it's just a slightly raised hatch. It's like a Merc GLA, but a little bigger. Quite a handsome thing.
Crossover
Crossover-ish. Comparable to a Golf Country I guess.
Doug, the car doesn't have a rear wiper because the airflow over the roof passes through the rear air spoiler and down the window, which keeps the window free of dust and water. Great review. Thank you. I just sold the same HSE 30 minutes ago in Riverside!
You forgot to mention teslas charging network across the U.S. which is growing every year. Where you gunna charge your jag on longer road trips?
He does mention it 25:23
You seem to forget that Tesla encourages other EV manufacturers to take advantage of their existing charging network, it's not exclusive to Teslas
@@JOLuthi you can't charge any other car on Tesla super charger...
@goodfella21f Ah I didn't know that. Why wouldn't they though? That seems like a smart move
So Jaguar decided to print their name on the vent switches like anybody cares, but they put a sticker on the sides of the car? English people at their finest.
and look on which side of the road they drive, and how the coppers don'y have gubs.
Doug the type of guy who's comment section is filled with
Doug the type of guy comment!
Interesting attention to detail
I didn't think I'd like the I pace as much as I do now. Doug you are awesome
This thing has more tech than Doug has undershirts.
That's a lot and it gets a 9 out of 10.
That is not an SUV that is a hatchback.
Crossover
@@mcplutt Its not even a crossover, looks more like a hatch.
@@Mr_Seppo At least it has AWD and air suspension.
It's a modern luxury AMC Eagle.
How do you enter the car when the door handles are covered by freezing rain?
You don't buy an electric car if you're some city dwelling peasant with no garage and have to keep it outside where you can't even charge it.
I thought the handle was dumb too looks like one of the first things to break
@@Adrian07z So I need to find a new winter chalet with a full garage to park my Jag in, because they designed it in a way which can't handle actual winter. Yeah, seems like a very clever design there.
@ It could handle my winter. Can't say the same thing of city dwelling peasants, though... Whatever, I don't really give a fuck, Tesla's better anyway...
Adrian right because us with garages don’t go out for supper and it rains and freezes while we are there...
5:36 The 4th VIN number on the left side of the trunk :)
Doug the type of guy to release a video during live coverage of a presidential funeral
A funeral doesn't sound as appealing as a car video
You know that Doug has world wide viewers and something like this doesn't affect most countries.
Henry Rand type of guy to go to TH-cam during a presidential funeral and comment on a Doug Demuro video with a Doug the Type of Guy comment....
*DOUG IS THE KIND OF GUY WHO IS SICK & TIRED OF THESE INFANTILE REMARKS!!!* th-cam.com/video/vQZNOvIEN78/w-d-xo.html
Doug malfunctioned at 4:44
LMAO Doug the kind of guy who glitches when he describes the next up thing
This is way smaller than a Model X though, so comparing them apples-to-apples might not be that fair
Yep, iPace is a heavier, less efficient, more expensive (or slower) Model 3.
Way smaller is right - the Model X has a massive 70% more cargo space than the i-Pace. That difference is more than the i-Pace trunk volume itself.
@@house9120 Yea you can have a 3rd row in a model x
It's not even comparable to the Model S. Barely more space than the Model 3.
Just wait for the 40k model Y comes out and beat the crap out of this car.
Here's my taken the new offerings from the various manufacturers. There's no question that the quality of the interiors are quite possibly superior to that of the Teslas (I drive a Model 3 dual motor and also own a 2018 Mercedes E300).
However there are two MAJOR components that simply do not compete yet with Tesla. One, the supercharger network. When you buy a Tesla, you also buy into their already established network of superchargers.
This is invaluable because you're only competing with other Teslas for charging as opposed to competing with say a leaf or a volt or basically any other EV. Also the Tesla network is incorporated into your maps on the GPS in the car. It will even show you real time supercharger availability so that you don't go there for nothing and have to wait. And this is where point number two comes in.....The technology.
In my Model 3, I have a huge screen which is almost exactly like a huge iPad and works in the same manner as well. Tesla offers over-the-air updates which no other car I have seen to date does. In other words, once you buy this I-Pace, you're pretty much stuck with the features it came with. Teslas evolve over time with new features just like the iPhone has.
In the two months I have had my Model 3, I have more features now than what I started with! And the easy of use of the screen is simply pure joy. I can request GPS directions to home or work with one swipe of my finger and the speed at which it does the calculation is incredible. Also, no other system that I have tried to date beats the Tesla Autopilot system.
Look at how they still offer a key fob to enter the car. The Tesla key is my phone! So that's one less thing I have to carry in my pocket. And if that doesn't work, Tesla gives you a literal "credit card" that opens your doors and "starts" the car. Why can't these "luxury" car manufacturers do that??
Yes, the Jaguar and even the Audi may be more impressive in terms of luxury appointments, but the tech is still old school. It's old school thinking. Tesla is definitely more forward thinking. Just my .02c.
That screen is a giant safety problem and tesla have been told many times, and yes the super charger network is nice, but how often do you really use it?
The tesla interior is the ugliest in car history. And why would you wamt the key in your phone?to make it easier to steal?
The Joker you’re an idiot
I can't agree with you more. If I can I'll giVe you ten thumb ups. The supercharging network, the autopilot, over the air update, the phone key, and how minimal and efficient the interior is, it's all so modern and futurist that no competitors at this point can even compete with. Once you have a Tesla, you never think about other cars.
@@travisli5632 Amen, even Diesel-loving Joe Rogan can't stop praising his Model S!
I got to spend a few days with The I Pace back in June as part of their launch training. We got a good amount of time behind the wheel on city streets, highways & on track against the model X.
Since then I’ve been saying what Doug basically reported. The iPace is really good.
this is being compared to model X, just because is EV. This is much smaller, no 6 or 7 seats, can't tow.
why is this marketed as an SUV....? this is a hatchback....
Because a hatchback is smaller.
Clearly don't know what a hatchback is buddy...
kia stinger has no problem calling itself a hatchback same thing with the current civic
Cause it will sell more if it's called that
It's like people calling the Model X an SUV when in reality it is a minivan.
Doug, the type of guy to make "vroom vroom" noises while driving an electric car.
JLR + electric vehicle = something I wouldn’t touch with a 10ft pole out of warranty
Defliently not, they have never built a range rover that hasn't had to go into repair within the first 3 months.
That interior is spot on. 👌🏽
@Zack Smith just like the first teslas 🤣.
Gotta say for a first Gen product this is extremely well put together. Most luxury cars are leased, so it doesn't really matter.
Zack Smith how do you know?
Don't Model X's have a third row of seating? Other than both having battery power, these vehicles really should not be compared.
At base price, model X is a 5 seater with two tires. That said, the storage in the back (and the front) is SIGNIFICANTLY larger.
Jag Ipace can go proper offroad, Tesla X cant go offroad
Jaguar I-Pace is better than Tesla
@@davideselvi3906 Not if you want to tow something. The 750 kg tow rating for the ipace is ridiculously small for an SUV. The model X tows 2250 kg.
Even the model 3 has a higher tow rating (910 kg).