Wow. I'll be honest, I wasn't super high on Meteos when I saw him on the first episode this season. But he has been incredible! I was wrong, and I'm sorry I doubted him at all.
I love seeing Meteos as a part of The Dive. He works well with other hosts. He's great at riffing and providing unique perspectives. It's 1000x better than him doing solo interviews like he does on the C9 channel.
He thrives with other entertainers/talkers who can help carry and move the convo and help bounce off around on things rather than someone whos core isnt sitting there comfortable on camera having a chat
Joining in on the Meteos love. The guy's really smart about the game with a great sense of humour, and great for this sort of podcast. Not even Pr0lly's career-sabotaging antics can stop this man.
look around my room for about 5 minutes trying to figure out what was happening, it was just Will's hand banging the table every time he's making a point.
I liked the discussion. One piece of feedback I'd provide though, could you get a different table that doesn't boom in the mic every time someone taps the table? Meteos is constantly tapping the table when he's talking and it shouldn't be an issue, but because of the setup, it's like a drum in my ears.
love the show, slight complaint, anytime any of them touch the table it makes a bad sound that the mic's are catching and my subwoofers bumping it making it worse
Great episode! Was really hard to listen to on headphones there was some really low sub hits through the entire episode. Couldn't tell if it was a microphone issue, or if someone was bumping the table or kicking it.
Biggest buff to Asol was they gave him reasonable mana costs. The stacks are nice, but having mana means he can trade without having to back every other wave.
Yes! Catch up with the other 2 episodes from this season. The podcast/show has been great this season, partly due to the addition of Meteos! It’s a great time to be a fan on LoL and LCS.
Man, I haven't seriously played League in prob like 5 years. I play an occasional ARAM but that's really it. I can still listen to these guys talk about the game for hours. Love how much content the LCS is putting out these days
I think a comeback player of the split/year could be a cool award for The Dive. Personally, I would nominate Quid, but there are a lot of good options in Olleh, Inspired or Bwipo.
Olleh is high on this list for me. Dude came back and wounded C9! Now all they have to do is slay this beast for the ship - NRG included. Playoffs gonna be hyped!
Meteos is a fun addition to The Dive, but in a podcast that tries to give high level analysis and offers ideas of what is true/the best (what teams are the best, what players are the best, what champions are the best, why it is, how it is, et cetera), Meteos should not have been added. Meteos is fun and offers some good insight into the lives of pro players and what they are doing/how they might be thinking, but his thoughts on the game and on the league are casual at best and wrong at worst. Imagine if you added someone like Aphromoo! He has all the experience of Meteos, but is a genius mind in the game and understands the intricacies of both the league and how the game should be played. His analysis would be an amazing addition to The Dive; the type of analysis that Meteos doesn't/can't provide.
If I was a c9 fan the Ashley interview would be incredibly concerning to me. Jojo seemed to think their drafts were fine and didn’t seem to be at all concerned that they’re losing so much (not that I would want him to be panicking, but being 3-4 on a super team I would hope he is feeling some pressure to perform). The playoff cutoff is super soft for an 8 team league so they’re almost certainly making playoffs, but NRG destroyed them in bo3 last split when they had a much better performing team.
As not much of a c9 fan itd make me breathe a sigh of relief cuz the #1 or #2 superteam killer is the pressure to perform kills them the second they're falling down imo
Feedback: - Could you increase the general volume of the podcast, the volume is really low compared to other stuff. When I try to game on the side Im always shocked how loud the game is - Meteos stop hitting the table :P (example 32:07) Love the cast though
Really shows how at least in league, pro players can be one of the best content creators. Meteos, doublelift, sneaky caedrel… we need more of em as hosts and casters
Love the show! Can we remind Meteos to not tap the table when talking though. Or just get some proper suspended mic setups. I'm still noticing a lot of thumps while listening in headphones and it's a bit distracting
Am I being dumb or does Kayle scale about the same time as him as average? I would think on average kayles are 16 somewhere right before 20ish minutes so smolders stacks coming then doesn’t seem super early to me
Meteos feels like, a "slightly closer to player-base" host of the show. Azael and Kobe have essentially "always" worked for Riot, but Meteos started as a player, turned content creator, and brings a totally different layer and feel to the podcast. If they were all on a sliding scale of "cooperate" vs "consumer," Meteos DEFINITELY lands closer to us on the spectrum, just you know, a little more knowledgeable lol.
For Summer I hope they go one best of one round robin followed by a best of two round robin based on seeding from the first round robin. Consistent broadcast times, more games, no ties and a little bit of adaptation. Can prep the first draft, normal experience second draft.
@@EveryTimeIDavid in total, 3 games played per split between each team. You just rank everyone by total games won at the end and any ties are determined by head to head.
@@EveryTimeIDavid it is only of you had to play all 3 games in a single round robin bo3(not just 2/3). This way you get to see everyone against each other once in the first 3 weeks then you get to see some planning and adaptation and/or redemption if the lesser team can pull off a win on the third game.
@@F00Lsmack you’re way is still playing 3 total matchups. I’m confused as to how it’s not best of 3 because of that, and because best of 2 does not exist. That allows for ties, which is the whole point of best of formats.
I dont like sivir at all but love xayah so.maybe that's part of my enjoyment. Tbh smolder felt like cait to me when played w the right like items and runes. Strong poke laning. Great sieging. Great wave killing range. Just doesnt hit towers hard rn but still ranged autos
Feels good to be an LCS fan right now great games fun teams lots of content the only thing is lack of games and this long break in the middle of the split (meteos still suckling the teet of cloud 9 11 years later)
I love Bwipo. So glad he’s back. Loved him in LEC, love him in LCS. I think Bwipo could be the guy to get everyone to listen to Inspired (which they should, even if Inspired lacks social skills).
What they say is “Champ requires too much setup and stuff” What they mean is “I need a eastern pro to use it in pro for me to get the confidence to use it”
If Meteos thinks Cloud 9 are just trolling, wait till they break a record and lose 6 in a row. I'm sure he's gonna find that really funny too. Good riddance to the false hype train nonsense.
Some award ideas: Biggest brain play Favorite LCS live patch first Most likely to be snubbed for player of the game/player of the week Least predictable on the rift
I think that's more that Kobe and Azael have more experience with the show, they know that if Meteos finishes his full though the podcast would be about 4+ hours (not that I'm opposed to that), but interjecting with their own thoughts and also keeping the show rolling is good. (If they made an 8 hour episode I would watch the whole thing just btw) Edit: Also if you want more Meaty Toes, watch his co-stream with sneaky! vods on Sneaky's twitch or Sneaky's editor does an amazing job condesing the days game to about an hour and a half podcast style video on Sneaky's channel
as a 100T fan i find it weird that people think its so surprising that 100T is tied for second. They are literally only 1 loss away from being 6th, its not like they are far ahead
As a long time C9 fan, I really can’t help but feel doomed right now. Idk what’s up but the only person playing well more or less is Jojo. Bot lane (regardless of inting) is losing every match up that they should be crushing, Fudge is non-existent, and Blaber has been a ghost on engage champs. Just REALLY feeling doomed right now
Marksman players, all the way to the best, tend to have the least grasp of build evaluation when it comes to new champions. They build what they are used to and blame the champ until others actually do the research for them. Adc's know the stoves hot, but they learn it by touching every burner. Pretty sure Meteos touched on this a few episodes ago. I don't know how good Smolder is but marksman players rarely have a good read on launch builds. Kai'sa and Senna launch both proved that autopiloting builds is the norm.
then you watch LPL and lucian looks like the most op champ in the game, enemy team cant step on mid or they get 30% HP'd in 1 combo with a winning 2v2 against any champ combo in the game if you play well enough. I can see why a team wouldn't want to invest time into learning how to play around it but can we actually stop the narrative that the champ is bad? Literally go watch any good LPL and even LCK team vod of them playing lucian and tell me if the champ's balanced
The issue is really that ADCs in NA aren't at the level of ADs in china or Korea, they think they can play it but they can't and honestly it looks like a really hard pick to abuse especially when you take first strike.
Surely the C9 coach needs to take a ton of responsibility for this? They have looked super passive for 18 months, their whole strategy is hands gap. Mic that with attrocious drafts considering the players you have. The players (apart from JoJo) have looker terrible, but collectively they just look absolutely rudderless
I hate that our top teams mindset is "We're just trolling" I really want the LCS to take steps towards being taken seriously, but stuff like that really hurts my hopes. ...And of course its C9 again
1.5 hours of Meteos is the best thing
Meteos is the best thing to ever happen to this podcast. I'm loving the chemistry between all three of these beautiful men.
Yeah but I miss comment section being about the episode instead of just Meteos. We get it guys he's a great addition but it's just pure praise for him
Divies Awards Noms:
Rookie Host of the Split: Meteos
Rookie LCS Commissioner of the Split: Mark
Holy heck what a thumbnail
I had to click it because that thumbnail was too good.
Makes me think his mom works at Riot (not anymore) and she's gonna ban us
@@bt_18 I think you're seeing the other thumbnail HAHA, they're talking about the one with Meteos dressed up in C9 Copium gear
@@raghavpant3251 WAIT that's also hella funny what hahaha, LCS staff serving bangers today
they changed it :((((
This season of The Dive is by far my favorite! Thanks guys for all you do for the community! Azael, Kobe, and Meteos, keep cooking!
Markz in shambles
@@elliotanderson3760haha, no disrespect.
@@elliotanderson3760I'm sure he's really struggling down and out right now 😜
This is probably partially MarkZ's idea.@@elliotanderson3760
Wow. I'll be honest, I wasn't super high on Meteos when I saw him on the first episode this season. But he has been incredible! I was wrong, and I'm sorry I doubted him at all.
I love seeing Meteos as a part of The Dive. He works well with other hosts. He's great at riffing and providing unique perspectives. It's 1000x better than him doing solo interviews like he does on the C9 channel.
He thrives with other entertainers/talkers who can help carry and move the convo and help bounce off around on things rather than someone whos core isnt sitting there comfortable on camera having a chat
Joining in on the Meteos love. The guy's really smart about the game with a great sense of humour, and great for this sort of podcast. Not even Pr0lly's career-sabotaging antics can stop this man.
Wat
My favorite thumbnail aha. Meteos has been my favorite personality in the scene so glad to watch more of him
Almost like people are fans of charismatic past pro players. The blueprint is already there rito cmon now..
@@guitar1104 what exactly is your point here?
meteos is getting better at how he shares his opinion love this version of the dive
Really enjoying the episodes this season!
Looking forward to each ep now with meteos
look around my room for about 5 minutes trying to figure out what was happening, it was just Will's hand banging the table every time he's making a point.
The bass was thumping my car speakers xD
@@spawnofheck I literally was looking around me like who's car speakers are going crazy, cuz it was at a mid lvl where it sounded almost...distant
I liked the discussion. One piece of feedback I'd provide though, could you get a different table that doesn't boom in the mic every time someone taps the table? Meteos is constantly tapping the table when he's talking and it shouldn't be an issue, but because of the setup, it's like a drum in my ears.
love the show, slight complaint, anytime any of them touch the table it makes a bad sound that the mic's are catching and my subwoofers bumping it making it worse
Love the new intro!
Lately LCS been good, now with PROS and DIVE this looks so good tbh
Great episode!
Was really hard to listen to on headphones there was some really low sub hits through the entire episode.
Couldn't tell if it was a microphone issue, or if someone was bumping the table or kicking it.
Pretty sure it's Meteos tapping the table. You can watch it line up with him touching the table.
meteos warmed up really fast with asael and kobe and they are already a really good trio
Show so good with meteos. You three have awesome chemistry!
Biggest buff to Asol was they gave him reasonable mana costs. The stacks are nice, but having mana means he can trade without having to back every other wave.
Again good work on the dive. Meteos is a really good addition
Man Meteos adds so much to this. The Dive is better than it's ever been
Meteos is my favorite league personnel. Love these Dive episodes.
love the content yall have been pumping out
Meteos bringing all the fresh takes that Sneaky and Doublelift troll him for and it’s great 😂💙
Agreed 😂😂
and he brings the fresh fits.
@@yatoyoboku and he eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes
Haha ya
@@yatoyoboku Like a soggy sweatshirt?
This is my first time tuning in since Meteos being on the pod. NEVER GET RID OF THIS MAN
Yes! Catch up with the other 2 episodes from this season. The podcast/show has been great this season, partly due to the addition of Meteos! It’s a great time to be a fan on LoL and LCS.
48:36 mic picks up the thumping on the table
Man, I haven't seriously played League in prob like 5 years. I play an occasional ARAM but that's really it. I can still listen to these guys talk about the game for hours. Love how much content the LCS is putting out these days
I love it. Keep being a fan man! The game is a great mind relaxer.
I think a comeback player of the split/year could be a cool award for The Dive. Personally, I would nominate Quid, but there are a lot of good options in Olleh, Inspired or Bwipo.
Olleh is high on this list for me. Dude came back and wounded C9! Now all they have to do is slay this beast for the ship - NRG included. Playoffs gonna be hyped!
Meteos is a fun addition to The Dive, but in a podcast that tries to give high level analysis and offers ideas of what is true/the best (what teams are the best, what players are the best, what champions are the best, why it is, how it is, et cetera), Meteos should not have been added.
Meteos is fun and offers some good insight into the lives of pro players and what they are doing/how they might be thinking, but his thoughts on the game and on the league are casual at best and wrong at worst. Imagine if you added someone like Aphromoo! He has all the experience of Meteos, but is a genius mind in the game and understands the intricacies of both the league and how the game should be played. His analysis would be an amazing addition to The Dive; the type of analysis that Meteos doesn't/can't provide.
stop hitting the table @meteos i keep thinking someone is at the door.
Lmao, let him be passionate. Your headphones too good.
@@Darkstormsun9865bro its rough even on my shitty car speakers rn lol
@@Darkstormsun9865
The thumbnail is on fire xD
so glad to see meteos here.
Bringing meteos to this was the best decision they’ve ever made
I’m here for the cope. Loving the guys talk shop!
Meteos is a great person to have on a podcast. Very enjoyable to listen to.
Yall are great
If I was a c9 fan the Ashley interview would be incredibly concerning to me. Jojo seemed to think their drafts were fine and didn’t seem to be at all concerned that they’re losing so much (not that I would want him to be panicking, but being 3-4 on a super team I would hope he is feeling some pressure to perform). The playoff cutoff is super soft for an 8 team league so they’re almost certainly making playoffs, but NRG destroyed them in bo3 last split when they had a much better performing team.
As not much of a c9 fan itd make me breathe a sigh of relief cuz the #1 or #2 superteam killer is the pressure to perform kills them the second they're falling down imo
Feedback:
- Could you increase the general volume of the podcast, the volume is really low compared to other stuff. When I try to game on the side Im always shocked how loud the game is
- Meteos stop hitting the table :P (example 32:07)
Love the cast though
Is the audio out of sync?
Really shows how at least in league, pro players can be one of the best content creators. Meteos, doublelift, sneaky caedrel… we need more of em as hosts and casters
Love the show! Can we remind Meteos to not tap the table when talking though. Or just get some proper suspended mic setups. I'm still noticing a lot of thumps while listening in headphones and it's a bit distracting
really really cool yall added a third host to the dive
What about urgot with hullbreaker? if he gets to W a tower he'll melt it cause it attacks so many times it'll keep proccing the hullbreaker.
Am I being dumb or does Kayle scale about the same time as him as average? I would think on average kayles are 16 somewhere right before 20ish minutes so smolders stacks coming then doesn’t seem super early to me
Meteos feels like, a "slightly closer to player-base" host of the show. Azael and Kobe have essentially "always" worked for Riot, but Meteos started as a player, turned content creator, and brings a totally different layer and feel to the podcast. If they were all on a sliding scale of "cooperate" vs "consumer," Meteos DEFINITELY lands closer to us on the spectrum, just you know, a little more knowledgeable lol.
For Summer I hope they go one best of one round robin followed by a best of two round robin based on seeding from the first round robin. Consistent broadcast times, more games, no ties and a little bit of adaptation. Can prep the first draft, normal experience second draft.
Best of two?
@@EveryTimeIDavid in total, 3 games played per split between each team. You just rank everyone by total games won at the end and any ties are determined by head to head.
@@F00Lsmack isn’t that just bo3 round robin?
@@EveryTimeIDavid it is only of you had to play all 3 games in a single round robin bo3(not just 2/3). This way you get to see everyone against each other once in the first 3 weeks then you get to see some planning and adaptation and/or redemption if the lesser team can pull off a win on the third game.
@@F00Lsmack you’re way is still playing 3 total matchups. I’m confused as to how it’s not best of 3 because of that, and because best of 2 does not exist. That allows for ties, which is the whole point of best of formats.
Do the cameras look better than normal? Quality looks lowkey insane.
When I first played smolder he felt like sivir and Xayah to me which I loved
I dont like sivir at all but love xayah so.maybe that's part of my enjoyment. Tbh smolder felt like cait to me when played w the right like items and runes. Strong poke laning. Great sieging. Great wave killing range. Just doesnt hit towers hard rn but still ranged autos
(Also on release I was spamming the rfc by atleast 3rd item every game style and that def helped said feeling^)
Feels good to be an LCS fan right now great games fun teams lots of content the only thing is lack of games and this long break in the middle of the split (meteos still suckling the teet of cloud 9 11 years later)
Personally as a 100T fan i felt the closer was majority of the issues of 100T last year.
King Meteos
Is lucian bad or are the plauers not good enough. Its so good in Lpl and Lck
If Vulcan doesn't get his act together, I can see Zven coming back next split
Probably better to get a rookie support.
I love Bwipo. So glad he’s back. Loved him in LEC, love him in LCS. I think Bwipo could be the guy to get everyone to listen to Inspired (which they should, even if Inspired lacks social skills).
What they say is
“Champ requires too much setup and stuff”
What they mean is
“I need a eastern pro to use it in pro for me to get the confidence to use it”
At first I thought metros’ energy wasn’t going to be a good fit for the dive but he’s really been killing it thumbs up
They fixed Hullbreaker on Urgot and it feels incredible :D
only reason i watched was because of the thumbnail, give that man a raise
If Meteos thinks Cloud 9 are just trolling, wait till they break a record and lose 6 in a row. I'm sure he's gonna find that really funny too.
Good riddance to the false hype train nonsense.
I don't listen to the dive usually but since meat toes has been on its been pretty fire
Stop giving my Smolders tech out 😐
Loved the show before and hate change. Meteos has been a great addition
Some award ideas:
Biggest brain play
Favorite LCS live patch first
Most likely to be snubbed for player of the game/player of the week
Least predictable on the rift
Feels like Meteos never gets to finish his point because someone always cuts him off and finishes his sentence. Peak ADHD podcast
So triggering. Learn from Joe and let people finish their thoughts, so rude. Not funny
I think that's more that Kobe and Azael have more experience with the show, they know that if Meteos finishes his full though the podcast would be about 4+ hours (not that I'm opposed to that), but interjecting with their own thoughts and also keeping the show rolling is good. (If they made an 8 hour episode I would watch the whole thing just btw)
Edit: Also if you want more Meaty Toes, watch his co-stream with sneaky! vods on Sneaky's twitch or Sneaky's editor does an amazing job condesing the days game to about an hour and a half podcast style video on Sneaky's channel
I think it was 3 seconds that were added to brands jungle clear with the nerfs. Not that bad of a nerf
I think MF has the same need for setup as Rumble, we have seen a lot of unsupported Rumbles with waterslide ults.
Blaber + tali buffs?
I thought APA said Brand (Bugi) would need to carry if they had a chance.
I’m here to add to the meteos engagement :)
as a 100T fan i find it weird that people think its so surprising that 100T is tied for second. They are literally only 1 loss away from being 6th, its not like they are far ahead
Janna/Smolder has been so much fun to play….
No flame to Mark, he's the goat, but Metoes is doing so well on the Dive!
Casters and LCS content creators should make watching scrims more common so we can get more inside info and data
Jensen Anivia this week 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Where are the fan questions?
i never knew meteos and kobe had the same last name🤨🤨
As a long time C9 fan, I really can’t help but feel doomed right now. Idk what’s up but the only person playing well more or less is Jojo.
Bot lane (regardless of inting) is losing every match up that they should be crushing, Fudge is non-existent, and Blaber has been a ghost on engage champs.
Just REALLY feeling doomed right now
Urgot is insane with Hullbreaker
With rage blade and roa getting buffed this patch surely tf shows up. He’s crazy rn.
Headphones while Meteos bumping the table is the worst thing about this. Everything else? Fantastic.
Let's go FlyQuest!
RIP the old thumbnail.
What a thumbnail
Marksman players, all the way to the best, tend to have the least grasp of build evaluation when it comes to new champions. They build what they are used to and blame the champ until others actually do the research for them. Adc's know the stoves hot, but they learn it by touching every burner. Pretty sure Meteos touched on this a few episodes ago. I don't know how good Smolder is but marksman players rarely have a good read on launch builds. Kai'sa and Senna launch both proved that autopiloting builds is the norm.
then you watch LPL and lucian looks like the most op champ in the game, enemy team cant step on mid or they get 30% HP'd in 1 combo with a winning 2v2 against any champ combo in the game if you play well enough. I can see why a team wouldn't want to invest time into learning how to play around it but can we actually stop the narrative that the champ is bad? Literally go watch any good LPL and even LCK team vod of them playing lucian and tell me if the champ's balanced
The issue is really that ADCs in NA aren't at the level of ADs in china or Korea, they think they can play it but they can't and honestly it looks like a really hard pick to abuse especially when you take first strike.
Speaking of Smolder and C9's current midlaner let's bring Letigress back to the casting desk!
Here for the C9 copium.
C9 is looking like the TL roster with Bjerg, TONS of talent, no team play.
I love then I'm playing Smolder and my support Zyra is stacking off minions instead of poking Champs.
The Brand+Lillia+Rengar nerfs were needed; now they need to knock Bel'Veth and Briar down a peg or two.
Surely the C9 coach needs to take a ton of responsibility for this? They have looked super passive for 18 months, their whole strategy is hands gap. Mic that with attrocious drafts considering the players you have. The players (apart from JoJo) have looker terrible, but collectively they just look absolutely rudderless
Who is this korean smolder player who rushes Shojin, 2x haunting -> liandries and rift?
Dang this one is really heavily edited, feels way different than before for some reason
I hate that our top teams mindset is "We're just trolling"
I really want the LCS to take steps towards being taken seriously, but stuff like that really hurts my hopes.
...And of course its C9 again
I'm glad the boys find the balance team as despicable as reddit does
Dudes, Samira is the one that SHITS on Smolder, she dives your face and blocks 100% of ur dmg played against it twice and felt hopeless both times
Lethality Yorick 👀 church of Pokerick!
berserker zeri is back???