LeBron Fan Realizes Michael Jordan Is The GOAT (CRAZY)
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I been watching NBA & a die hard knicks fan for 38 years, so I hated MJ until like just 5 years ago when this anyone but MJ goat nonsense started, and my hate turned into respect (I always respected him, It was just buried under my hate lol)...
Seeing him pull out big wins game in, game out, actively rooting against him vs my Knicks and in the rest of the playoffs, deluding myself into thinking "the sonics/jazz/knicks/pacers could have a good shot at sending these damn bulls home,".... Big Pun said it best with the 1st line of his song DREAM SHATTERER on his 1st album, "ay yo I SHATTER DREAMS LIKE JORDAN," cuz that's all he did to the knicks every damn season
And his team knew, the opposing team knew, the opposing coaching staff knew, every fan in the arena, everyone watching on TV, we ALL KNEW Jordan was getting the ball for the last shot, the last 2-5 min, the entire 4th quarter.. teams spent DAYS worth of scheming and practicing for those EXACT MOMENTS... and there was nothing anyone can do to stop him..
And worse yet, a more conservative, realistic amount of the time, say 80%, of those times the Bulls needed it and the world knew he was taking over, they'd win...
That still meant 20% of the time, he'd LOSE----- but 8 times outta 10 is an ABSURDLY high amount of time... THAT'S why he's the GOAT, cuz he refused to lose and he continually shined brighter than anyone when it counted, never being the man BEHIND the man
He was BY FAR the best player on the best team that was still the best with the least amount of help on offense, when it mattered the most... if he didn't step away for baseball, there is an actual BELIEVABLE chance this guy led his team to a FRIGGIN EIGHT-PEAT... just let that sink in...
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Cuz he won 3 more in a row AFTER that i.e. he was 3 and 4 years younger than he was for that 2nd 3peat... the dude lost 2 seasons of his prime, comes back, and wins another 3... I'm happy we'll never know, cuz F a Michael Jordan 😂
GD friggin Knick Killin prickBastard
LeBron versus Jordan is a false premise because LeBron hasn't proven himself to be either the best or the second best player ever.
nah he atleast top 2
AT THE LEAST !
He's got the best body of work by far of anyone not named Jordan as well as the best prime of anyone both named Jordan.
No kareem and magic are better than lebron
I have Lebron seventh.
Jordan had no weakness on that court. NONE
They try to say his 3 ball was one but the 3 was not really a big part of the game then and stats show that when he did shoot 3’s he was just average not trash not good just average
Jordan is outside the top 250 at the 3 point line. There is only 1 player in the NBA that is in the top 250 in every stat block, and that is Larry Bird.
1,000,000% CORRECT
Bird had no weaknesses. Jordan couldn't overcome him even when Bird was old and injured.
@@billylanauze3576 YEA THATS WHY JORDAN PUT 63 ON HIM IN THE PLAYOFFS
Jordan's dominance in the playoffs is the main reason why he is the GOAT to me. The 40ppg playoff stat epitomizes this. Consider how difficult
it is to average over 40ppg in a playoff series, even when you have offensive help. Jordan never played with another offensive player who could
command a double team. Scottie was nice, but he was never an elite scorer. All teams opponents knew that to stop the Bulls they had to stop
Jordan. And none of them could do it.
Wilt Chamberlain was also known for his prolifice scoring. But most of his scoring exploits were in the regular season, not in the playoffs.
@@cyber6sapien all facts 💯
Averaging 40 ppg mostly on two pointers. DAYUM.
Gravity is a force of nature, MJ is a force of will…
Jordan is the 🐐 without question, you really had to see him play to believe it , the guy was absolutely unbelievable
The Glove was nasty but MJ was beyond
You said it... Jordan is Jordan. One of One.
MJ was incredible.
Jordan is a better defender
Jordan and Kobe played their hearts out at both ends of the floor almost every night. Lebron would sit out if he feels it. That's why LBJ will never be in the GOAT conversation.
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Jordan did not have to leave Chicago to get his titles..... I'm a Knick fan and when we thought we had a chance to win it all, Michael would change that! Respect!
💯 2 3peats as the main player. End of discussion
Jordan is clearly the goat, lebron is way overrated
Yeah! Lebron can't even handle the ball. He is definitely not clutch.
Overrated is absurd.. all time points & assist better 3 point shooter than mj and did it with three different franchises in two decades.. if he is overrated could u guard him ? Let’s start there…..
I’m not saying Lebron is the goat.. but overrated is insane!
@Cpski4 I feel you but he definitely overrated. He's the only player whose failures get ignored and excused. This is the main reason he's overrated. His game has so many flaws and he has only won by forming super teams. I seen his career from A to Z. The rule changes in 2004 saved him. He's allowed to travel, carry, and offensive foul his way to the basket with no repercussions. I can go on but I'll leave it here
How is it his fault that the rules changed ? What flaws does he have ? He’s been in clutch moments didn’t forget about the cavs down 3-1?
I believe Jordan is the goat but it doesn't mean he has to be your goat. Though its not really even an actual comparison to Jordan everyone can and should like who they like. The problem is when people act like Jordan isnt him and try to downplay what Jordan did.
For sure felt that i would never downplay what Jordan did for the game ever !
Of course everyone should like who they like. But way too many people confuse “favorite player” with “GOAT.” They are two different things and have two different meanings.
GOAT and favourite player are 2 separate things. One of my boy's favourite player is TMAC, they would never claim he's the best player ever.
Stupid take.
Which one ?
I'm a huge fan of LeBron, Kobe, Bird and many others and have watched basketball a long time. Jordan just had something different compared to everyone else. Imagine if he took real care of his body through all the technology that is available now. The guy golfs 18 to 36 holes (so between 3 and 8 hours outdoors in the heat) drinkings and then still went and did what he did on a basketball court. There's a similar story Charles Barkley tells about when he, Jordan, Karl Malone, and coach Chuck Daley played golf in the morning of an olympic game and Jordan asked to guard the point guard for the other team in the evening. People were afraid of Jordan so much that they would go out of their way not to say anything he could remotely use as motivation. That is a different breed of person right there. Kobe is probably the closest we have seen and likely will see. Jordan is kind of the guy that invented retiring on the top of your game, now it is the norm with everyone thinking it was Tom Brady that started that trend.
There is only 1 player that can fly.. and 1 same player we call Jesus** Black Jesus**
If you don’t know Terry Cummings you gotta check out his early years. Crazy strong, athletic power forward. Used to battle Barkley in the east
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The only thing Lebron got over Jordan is height.
what abt strength or longevity, i agree michael jordan is the goat but dont b hating on bron for no reason
o and btw, 'mr. pass-first' [Lebron James] IS the LEADER of NBA HISTORY in TURNOVERS .. 'by' A LOT
REMEMBER, that 40 point average was at TWO points AT A TIME, NOT throwing 3s.
Lefraud fanatics are living in fantasy land. 6 finals loss and 2 bronze medal in international tournament is really the standard for being the greatest?
Gary Payton had the greatest hand check. That’s what made him a great defender. The Glove is never DPOTY if they don’t allow the hand check
I feel like the hand check is just basketball tho man yk
@@Cpski4 it was outlawed in the nba. Scoring was difficult with the hand check, so Payton’s hand check shut players down. I think they changed the rules to make scoring easier for the new gen of players
Huge gp and mj fan. I think Jordan was a more versatile and dynamic defender when he needed to be, while still elite. GP is the best defensive pg imo, but level to level, gp gave more consistent effort so higher floor, and was all time lock down pest as a guard. But he didn't have to cook the same way as MJ on offense so put more stats in defensive intensity and trash talk.
@@benj10s so in Kobe’s prime post Shaq the hand check was a foul. Much easier to score after that rule change…
@@teamcaveman yes, it's much easier to score in todays nba. Especially last few seasons before. And also changing it so a blocking foul was called if a defenders feet were moving even if he had position, unlike before.
Jordan all the way
Watch Voyager Rare Jordan highlights video. People love watching that reaction. Ultimate Mixtatpe is another great Jordan video.
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Jordan has 5 individual years that he got 3 (7 prestige NBA awards in each year) 2 (8 prestige NBA awards in each year) & 1 (9 prestige NBA awards in 1 year) in NBA history
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AND dont forget, this guy was a MENACE on defense, "inflated" stats or not.
This iz why for you younger guys, you gotta somehow go back and watch, in full, as many games in a season from one of his 6 chips, and then watch their full playoff runs... just ONE season, in full ot as close to ut as possible.
Thats all youll need to realize he's just on this different level and no one is above him
MJ CALLED IT ...AND BACKED IT UP
His average actually was 31.5 before he came back to play for the wizards to teach those guys how to win
If he would’ve came back and gave the wizards a ring we wouldn’t be having this convo……
@@Cpski4 just so it’s clear to me are you trying to debate with or agreeing with what I said because your message come as if you’re being sarcastically or agree with me witch one irks it, because my comment is true and facts
@@Cpski4 the truth is real mike supporters from back in the day like myself, was never expecting him to win the championship with the wizards but if you didn’t get hurt, they was definitely going to the playoffs and going to make it far
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@@Cpski4 ok not a problem at all. Mj all day and Kobe over that lebum lames
When MJ was a point guard he had more than 10 assists per game. In that period, In a game against the Lakers, he had more assists than Magic (... who has 13).
With kobe scoring under 20 405 times I'm pretty sure he wasn't a starter his rookie year and averaged under 10 pts a game. I could be wrong. Kobe is still my number 2.
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Too many babies who barely know any NBA history yet got something to say about who is the GOAT..
smh
Facts dude didn't even kno Terry Cummings 😭😂
TO SAY KOBE HAD 400 SOMETHING GAMES WHERE HE SCORED LESS THAT 20 POINTS IS TERRIBLE TO COMPARE KOBE WITH MIKE AND LEBRON LIKE THAT CAUSE COACH HARRIS WOULDN'T PLAY KOBE THATS WHY THEY FIRED COACH HARRIS...WHERE JORDAN AND TRASH 🗑️ CAN JAMES CAME TO TEAMS WHERE THEY STARTED RIGHT AWAY..KOBE CAME OFF THE BENCH..8 MINUTES A GAME THE 1ST SEASON IN LA. 12 MINUTES A GAME THE SECOND SEASON AND ABOUT 15 MINUTES FOR HALF HIS THIRD SEASON..THEN THEY FIRED DALE HARRIS..SO TRASH CAN JAMES AND MIKE STARTED RIGHT AWAY...THEN PLAYING WITH SHAQ KOBE WASN'T THE FIRST OPTION SCORER..SHAQ WAS THE VETERAN AND PRIMARY SCORER SO DUDE MAKING THE VIDEO NEEDS TO STOP TRYING KOBE LIKE THAT ... 10:52
not true when you said Jordan didn't have scorers to pass too............Kerr, Pippen, Armstrong, Hodges, Paxton
I hated the Bulls and Jordan because I was a Knicks fan but Jordan was easily the best player I've ever seen.
Watch your language young man, generation has no respect.............
MJ the best always
Every Jordan final opponent had a stronger squad than 13 & 14 Spurs that gave Lebron so much trouble. Seasonal stats of Spurs 3 core players In 13 & 14: Duncan averaged 16.5 pts / Parker 18.5 / Manu 12.1
Seasonal stats of Jordan final opponents' 3 core players:
91: Magic 19.4 pts / Worthy 21.4 / Perkins 13.5
92: Drexler 25 / Porter 18.2 / Kersey 12.6
93: Barkley 25.6 / KJ 16.1 / Marjlie 16.9
96: Kemp 19.6 / Payton 19.3 / Shrempf 17.1
97 & 98: Malone 27.2 / Stockton 13.2 / Hornacek 14.3
Lebron went 5-7 against Spurs in 13 & 14 finals. Lebron lost to 14 Spurs so badly he set NBA final record on losing margin per game. Jordan OTOH went 24-11 against stronger squads. It's not even close. Jordan > Lebron.
Jordan was the better defender solely because he was the bigger of the 2, but the Glove was a problem no doubt, Jordan is the GOAT, the more you look, the more obvious it becomes 💯
Jordan baby!!!
Lebron is second place and thats not a bad thing. it should never be seen as a bad thing
MJ 🐐
LeBalco James!!! Balco King of the Los Angeles Lebrons!!!
Kobe got most them games under 20 coming right out of high school. He didn’t have that polish that comes from playing for an elite college program.
Facts🎉
MJALLDAY
Jordan best scorer without the 3
This is why MJ will always be the GOAT as for Lejuice he’s a DEER
Jordan was a defender than Payton in my opinion, but Gary was a phenomenal defender.
Either one you pick I wont argue, Gary was great.
Jordan was the best all around player in the history of the game. Payton was a great defender, but Jordan was just better.
New follower my young brother, I want to add a slightly lesser known truth.... MJ was only 6'5", NOT 6'6".... reporting he was 'taller', made him seem scarier....
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Gary Payton is the best defenses pg and MJ is the Superior defenses 2 guard.
How many points Mj scoring on him game to 15 then ??
@@Cpski4 15 and game
I don't have any issue with young people thinking LeBron is the GOAT. Because he is the guy they grew up watching.
It's just like Dr J having the same guys he grew up watching as his top 5 players of all time. It makes sense. Imagine
if Dr J had Jordan as his GOAT. That would be kinda weird. It would be like if Jordan had Tim Duncan as his GOAT.
MJ wasnt soft like LeBum
36 holes of Golf
12 cans of Beer
Wins by 24pts over an NBA
Scores 44pts
And, Teams were Terrified to play him😂🤣😂🤣
The GOAT🐐
82 games MJ played at age 35, as scoring champ, mvp, def 1st, nba 1st, then won FMVP, 3x consecutive FMVP, for the 2nd time. Lebron isn’t doing that.
Jordan was a much better defender than Gary. Prim for prime.
I think the greatest joy in my life was I saw MJ play basketball from like 1991 to till the end of his career and that means I missed the years where he was the most dominant!!!!!!!! ‘86-‘90….I love LBJ I think his life story is the greatest in sports history but MJ is clearly the best player ever! There is no debate!
And Jordan did all this in the toughest era of NBA history. Cant even imagine his numbers in this pathetic era where players can carry, travel, charge and/or flop on every play and players like Lebron constantly get phantom fouls when nobody even touched him
It’s not even close Mike is on a completely different planet
So never put LeBron‘s name in the same sentence with Jordan.
LeBron fans bring up regular season stats and forget to ever mention playoffs stats in the goat debate.
Look how many dribbles he takes to get his shots off. 3 to 4 dribbles. Insted of 24 to 30 dribbles.
Jordan was a better defender than Gary Payton but the media tried to hype up Payton.
Young Kobe was Shaq's teammate and it was hard to score at the same time with Shaq.
Dude was avg 25+😭😭😭
I my opinion, the issue with Jordan's passing is not that he is not an elite passer but rather more of a trust issue. While it may look like it from the outside, I don't think he got fully comfortable about trusting his teammates' ability to score.
I’ve always said if MJ was introduced to modern S&C + nutrition, there’s no doubt in my mind he would avg. 45 in today’s league w/ the lax rules & pace.
An old, washed up MJ playing against LBJ’s peers was still giving the NBA 20+ ppg, including several 40+ w/ virtually no help, so why would I think Prime MJ w/ modern NBA science that’s allowing guys out of their primes (LBJ, Steph, KD, PG, etc) play at high levels wouldn’t be a bucket+ in today’s league?
Gary Payton was one of the greatest on D but Jordan was on another level.
They played defense back then, today it’s fast pace quick shots, back then it was slower but that meant more defense
Let’s not act like before bird and magic came in it was all “iso” ball now are generation do it it’s a problem LOL… yea ik my knowledge too
The Glove, for sure, is a GREAT defender in his own right, but STILL couldn't really SHUT DOWN MJ!
If you think he is the GOAT because he scored at will, you could not be more wrong, he had the complete package on both side of the floor.
MJ, Kobe, Bird, Lebron. That's my list anyway. MJ was clearly the GOAT... And he was miles ahead of the others, and they all know it. Lebron having to tell us he's the GOAT, clearly indicates that he doesn't believe he is... MJ let's the tape and stats speak for themselves. Notice how the other three on my list never bragged about how great they were.
MJ, 100% no doubt
MJ was so far above the game that he had no rules. I don’t know if he was the best because that crap he was allowed to play was NOT basketball! Better word Garbage!
4 titles in 22 years aint enough espcially when 2 were on a superteam.
The all starts the almost leading in every stat ? The Olympic golds I think is what 3 now… I can keep going with accolades just how I can with Mj Mj one Bron 2… can’t discredit lbj
Goats of goats
Kobe has that many because Shaq was his teammate for alot of his career.
Jordan and Roenick played 648 holes of golf that day.
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No real Hoops fan would dare to begin or end a GOAT debate with Jabbar's name being at or near the top. Therefore the Jordan/LeBron GOAT debate is media driven hype drivel that I wouldn't let me dog wipe his butt with.
All of his points were 2 pointers. he never focused on 3’s . So what would his average be today with no hand checking
Bron 🐐 mj teammates have said so.
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Gary was slightly better than MJ on the defensive side MJ played in an era where there was a lot of 2-way players like Hakeem Alonzo Ewing Robinson Scottie Gary Joe Dumars Shaq to some degree Bron era has AD Giannis Embiid Bam Kawhi
Mj was better on defense... you forget about all the blocks?
I debate with people all the time about who is the NBA GOAT. But I don't waste my time debating who is the greatest scorer of all time.
It's MJ. And it's not particularly close.
Clone MJ ! who's with me? 😁
I’m a Jordan fan some of this shit idk! 😂😂🤯
Lebron has to surpass Curry then Kobe first. Not even a debate really.
Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell are the GOATS. Just look at that stats.
Bron not in the same category of MJ and Bird. His numbers are from longevity and he does not have that killer instinct and clutch gene and overall championship mentality
Kobe had 3 seasons with very little minutes is why he had so many under 20 pts
Bro still had 17 seasons lmao
82 times 3 is not even 300 games let alone 400
Still couldn’t get past Bird lol.
oldhead here. I watched pretty much the entire career arcs of both MJ and the Glove. Gary was an elite defender for the position and can give problems to some 2 guards, but MJ was the best defensive guard for the most part of his career. MJ can guard 1 thru 3 easily and did switch on to some smaller PFs in his latter half of career too.
and oh yeah, about those kids who say things like the KD's Warriors would kill the 90's bulls, hmmmm not if they play under the 90s rules and referees. Harper-MJ-Scottie-Worm were all each the best defensive guys of each position in the league when they played for the Bulls. Ron was a phenomenal 2 guard for the Cavs and the Clips until he blew his knees out. Ron reinvented himself as a great 3 and D big guard next to MJ, but once upon a time he competed, and often beating MJ. Scottie and Rodman were both incredible, generational defenders too. From Bill Cartwright, Stacy LIvington, Luc Longley, and others I am too old to remember, were all big dudes that took up massive space. C's back in the day were giants.
.... but, but, but Lebron.... Oh, damn, I gotta quit smoking synthetic 🌿
MJ
Young ins need to do their homework, know history , watch classic games, see the difference
Watching you guys highlights are so boring because u can barely see the “greatest” ts is horrible to watch 120 hp 😂
Nobody wants to watch ts nomore it’s 2024 bro 😂😂😂😂😂
Kobe didn't start his first couple of years,keep that in mind.
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