Getting smooth footage with a gimbal
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มี.ค. 2021
- There's more than just technique to ensure smooth video footage when using a gimbal. In this tutorial I cover various settings, tuning, potential firmware problems, editing tips, and ways to recover in post if all else fails. Below are pertinent links mentioned in the video:
Basic Videography for Real Estate:
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My real estate photography series:
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Tutorial on balancing a gimbal:
• How to Balance a Gimbal
Tutorial on video movements:
• Videography Movements ... - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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Regarding the balance test: DJI's balance test used to be upright without tilt, only recently they recommend tilting the gimbal, but I've never found a difference ether way. You can also tell if you're balanced well without the balance test in the app: if the gimbal can hold the camera in place when the power is off, like I show early in the video, and also the balance video at th-cam.com/video/DSvoGRO5xK8/w-d-xo.html then you have good balance.
I literally just walked out of Best Buy with my Ronin S and, BOOM, up comes Nathan!
Thank you Nathan for being the only person online that is using the new app! It's very different from the older version. And, I also had the same issues. No matter the firm update, calibration, ninja walks or the moon and sun being aligned I could'nt get smooth footage. Its frustrating when you see a person on a snow board filming their friend going off jumps but I can't get smooth footage walking like a ninja in a perfectly level/stable house. I didn't know you can go back to old versions of firmware. UPDATE: Going to the previous firmware you mentioned helped get rid of 90% of the shake. It no longer looks like Im riding a camel when recording.
Well done Nathan, this video was fantastic. No problems any more.
You are the best on YT and probably not just YT ... THANK YOU for every of Your videos!
Thank you! Much appreciated.
This is in the top 10 most helpful videos I have ever seen. This firmware issue was driving me nuts! Thank you!!
Glad it helped!
you're a legend in the industry. Much gratitude for the help
Thanks Nathan! You are a wealth of information.
Thank you Nathan!!! I’ve been struggling for almost a year and was about to give up and purchase a new gimbal when I saw this video. I’m super excited (and pissed off) that I only now have glass smooth footage after downgrading my firmware. Thank you for doing the research.
That’s it! Now my new favorite channel. Now, off to get the book. Epic video and very helpful. Thank you
Thank you for the extensive information of smooth footage. You have saved me so much time and trouble. I was beginning to think I just wasn't good at it. And it is so important to my films.
Very good video ... extremely informative. Thank you, Nathan
Thanks Nathan!!!!! Seriously I have been wondering what was happening with my gimble for like 5 months. I sent it in the DJI at least 7 times trying to explain the shaking issue and each time they told me it was fine. It wasn't until I found your video that I became aware of the firmware issue. I updated/downgraded it to the firmware you are using and walla! no more shake. I have a real estate shoot coming up on Tuesday. So you save me. I'm a happy subscriber now. Thanks for the help!
Thank you sir. You are very thorough & knowledgeable 👏
Thank you for this. You can even apply this information to later gimbals. Really well delivered.
Glad it was helpful!
You are a legend for this!! I've had the ronin-s for over a year now and have done all kinds of shoots and no matter how perfectly balanced, how much I auto-tuned, or even tried to set the motor parameters myself nothing fixed that micro-jitter issue. I've had to use warp stabilizer almost exclusively or the footage is unusable. With countless hours of reading forums and seeing that nearly everyone was having this problem, I knew it couldn't be human error. This the first time I'm actually happy to have this gimbal, I still can't believe how much smoother it is. DJI needs to completely overhaul their firmware updates, I just bought the SC because I had given up on the S and now I'm wondering if the firmware updates have ruined that gimbal also smh.
Thanks , like you I know how to get smooth results but I was going nuts trying to figure out my proble. Lke you I was running the same version sw and and rolled back . You saved me from going crazy.
Ordered your basic videography book and received it yesterday 👍
I was about to sell my ronin-s very cheap because I had been suffering from the shaking for a long time, the downgrade improved 90% of the problem, thank you very much friend, and once again shame on DJI who seem to make problems arise on purpose so that we can exchange the equipment for new every year.
Thank you so much the firmware part really helped me alot
Thank you so much for your video. You speak and communicate clearly and to the point. Keep up the great work.
You're very welcome, and I appreciate that!
Greetings sir! I follow your releases, I want to say thank you.
Man, so glad you made this video. Just started diving into video and I’ve been pretty disappointed with the jolts when panning on the Ronin RS2 so I’ll be looking into the firmware. Side note, the property in your shaky footage is example is in my neck of the woods, errr lemon orchards.
Great video , thanks
Many thanks for this tuto. It’s clear and precise
Thanks from France Nathan 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
You're very welcome!
Awesome video. Thank you. Off to buy you video book.
Thanks for this Nathan, I've recently bought the RS3 & was wanting to know how to add the warp stabilisation, you've explained everything very well 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Will be adding another one of your books to my collection. Despite the fact that my software, gimbal, camera are all different to yours, the video is still very relevant. My Weebill S drives me crazy.
This is really helpful tnx a lot
Awesome! Thanks :)
Hi Nathan - Great videos youre making. Please make a video where you test if the Dji gimbal can make 360 panos.
good video, just purchased the RSC2 and coming from the Moza i noticed some sided to side/Roll movement on some of my push-in shots. Not sure what the issue is but maybe i need to activate the roll motor. Never had this issue on my Moza 3-axis Gimbal.
Would love to see your warp stabilizer settings, i seem to only make things worse. Thanks
Thank you so much
Good information about the firmware for the DJI gimbal. I have the newer DJI RSC2 and I also thought the camera had been carried by a duck.
Thanks! Out of curiosity, what firmware version is on your RSC2 now, and have you tried downgrading it an older version like I show here? I'd be interested to see how that is affecting the RSC2.
Thanks a lot!!! Regardless from Mexico City
Brilliant
thanks fr the video
I noticed IBIS on the Z6 ii with it on and on the RS2 gives weird jittery movements. With it turned off its def better
Thanks!
Thank you!
Hi Nathan, are you still recommending the version of software, not the latest one, or have DJI fixed the issue you talk about in the video? Do you happen to know if this is also relevant in the SC model? (great video by the way, very informative) TIA
I haven't updated my Ronin S firmware since this video, so I'm still using the older version that works well. I don't know if the SC has the same issue.
Thanks
Thank you so much!
Hello Nathan. For the balance test, shouldn't the gimbal be tilted over 15 degrees to one side?
DJI's balance test used to be stationary without tilt, only recently they recommend tilting the gimbal, but I've never found a difference ether way. You can also tell if you're balanced well without the balance test in the app: if the gimbal can hold the camera in place when the power is off, like I show early in the video, and also the balance video at th-cam.com/video/DSvoGRO5xK8/w-d-xo.html then you have good balance.
hi sir how if the deadband and the sensitiviy is put at hard how it will effect to the video?
what was the very stable firmware version for RSC 2 Sir?
What mm lens are you using for RE Videography?
Hi Nathan, I couldn't thank you more, I was going crazy, with settings, balancing and everything but ı always had
You're welcome!
I want the gimbal to react when I move. What I need is pretty much something that works like a good IBIS, but without the jerky movement.
Can someone suggest the best setting for an IBIS type smooth performance?
Not so long ago I bought a Z5, inspired by your experience. I shoot spherical panoramas and have a question regarding the gimbal. Have you tried finding a way to align the nodal point of the lens with the axis of rotation of the gimbal in order to use the gimbal as a motorized rotator? Is it physically possible? Can you balance the camera on the gimbal? Thank you!
Great question. That would be awesome if it could work, but it's just as easy...and more accurate...to use a pano head with a fisheye lens. Here are some links for what I'd recommend for your Z5:
1. FTZii adapter: amzn.to/3UHi7dq
2. Fisheye lens: amzn.to/3W1ZiTg
3. Pano head: amzn.to/3FhtH9l
4. My guide on virtual tour photography: amzn.to/3uFyGvH
@@NathanCoolPhoto Thanks sir for your recommendation! I bought several of the cheapest panoramic heads at once for another 3 years (which is about $ 100) and to my surprise one of them was never taken out of the box, because the first panoramic head works perfectly and is fully functional. As for the fisheye lens, I ordered a TTartisan 11mm for Nikon Z for $215 and just love its detail, and the ability to use it without an FTZ adapter is very convenient! For ultra fine detail panoramas, I use my Nikkor Z 24-120 S f4 lens to do 3 circles of 11 frames at 0°/-30°/+30°/zenith/nadir and get ultra fine detail. But spinning 30+ frames, especially in the case of a large number of panoramas, is sometimes very time consuming and I keep thinking about how to automate this process. And if it's possible to do this with a DJI gimbal, that would really be great!
I thought about installing a smallrig cage on my z5 in order to mount the camera vertically, take an additional mount rail to move the rotation axis to the beginning of the lens, and also attach something as a counterweight to the gimbal. Do you think the experiment is worth spending time on this?
Thanks Nathan that's the problem I've been having. Will downgrade the firmware QUESTION
what about the settings in the User Profile under Control ?
Control menu is for remote usage and joystick, so it doesn't apply here.
@@NathanCoolPhoto Thanks Nathan I appreciate the quick response
@@NathanCoolPhoto sorry to bother you again, now my 80d isn't connected to gimbal with this firmware, I upgraded to next version 1.9.80 now the cable control cable is connected. Hope the stabilization is the same as 1.8.70
Best way is to test it: after upgrading or downgrading a firmware version, shoot some test footage around your house, download it onto your computer and view it (better to view on bigger screen to see shake). Try to record the same footage for each version that you test.
So my ronin app for my SC stopped working so I erased it and went to re-download it in hopes that would fix the issue and now I can't find the app anywhere. On Android. Any ideas?
Would these settings still be relevant today? Any updates on best firmware version from your testings?
Great question. I still use the old Ronin S with that older FW. I've been hoping DJI or other will send me a freebie to test for them :)
I'm using an a6300 with sigma 30mm both with no stabilization and I've tried all the tips in this video including all the firmware versions and still getting the shake. I also send it back they replaced it and I have the same issue with the new one. I don't know what else to try.
What gimbal?
@@NathanCoolPhoto It’s the ronin s
I have this dilema, do I keep the newest version of firmware with added support for Z system and risk getting shakier footage or do I retrieve to older version that is "more stable" does anyone know if DJI fixed the issue with the newest firmware??
You can always revert back to other firmware versions.
I'm getting some of that shaky footage on my RS2. I can't figure out how to rollback the firmware on it. The DJI Pro Assistant app for Windows doesn't see the RS2.
Hey Jared, perhaps you could try what DJI suggests in this post: forum.dji.com/thread-207942-1-1.html using the DJI app on your phone, "click on the icon on the upper left corner to enter the About page, click Firmware, and at the Firmware page, press and hold on the firmware version field for 5 seconds, then you can select the version you want to downgrade". I'd be interested, either way, if this would help. Keep us posted. Thanks!
@@NathanCoolPhoto Thank you. I was able to downgrade my firmware. I actually called DJI and asked them how to do it and they said I can't downgrade. Then I checked back here and saw your reply...and it worked. I feel like it may be a little smoother. I was getting some really jittery footage when in under slung. I feel it's a little better now. Here's a clip of the other morning at the beach. I had the RS2 under slung and was walking pretty slow but the shot is not good. It's so shaky. Thank you for your help. th-cam.com/video/D5YOS6FNqrU/w-d-xo.html
Cool shot. Does look similarly shaky to the problem I had with the S and the newer firmware (before downgrading the firmware). I'd be interested in seeing some tests from old to new firmware with your RS2 if you get time. BTW: After changing the firmware make sure to do an Autotune as well. Keep us posted. Thanks!
@@NathanCoolPhoto So I downgraded 2 versions ago. I was still getting some shaky shots. Some were good some were not. I just upgraded the firmware 1 version which is the previous version to what is out now. Hope that makes sense...hahah. I'm still getting shaky shots, mostly like a left to right sway. How much shake or movement would you say is acceptable? Even slowed down I can see it. I took some shots walking normal and then ninja walking. I actually think the ninja walk looks worse. It's slower and you can see every jitter. Here's a link when you have time. th-cam.com/video/LQhv537OSJA/w-d-xo.html I appreciate you looking at this. It's very frustrating to me cause most of my work is real estate. I can't have shaky footage. I don't think my Ronin S ever did this, at least not bad enough for me to notice it.
@Nathan Cool Photo You can notice it more when in full screen. I know I can use warp stabilizer but I hate doing that. I want it to be right straight out of camera.
I changed lenses, re balanced, but it was doing the gitter bug! Hes' right...YOU HAVE TO RE TUNE!
I update it to 1/28/2021 before i watch your video and after i watched it i went and downloaded 3/14/2019 but i couldn't see
any difference so please can you tell what to do and is there a big difference between the both by the way I'm using Sony A73
with 24-70mm G-master lens and I couldn't see the same problem in the video please help me what to choose.
What firmware versions were these, and what gimbal?
@@NathanCoolPhoto ronin s and the last version of the firmware 2021 or version 14/3/2019
Those aren't versions, those are dates :) Rewatch this section of the video to see what firmware versions work and what needs to be reverted back to, and how to do it: th-cam.com/video/m80p1kOzx_Y/w-d-xo.html
Oh. I'm sorry now I get it I had the version 2.4.1.30 and I didn't have any of the mentioned problems but after I watch your video I downgraded to 1.8.0.70 and I tried to compare the two videos and I didn't see any difference. So now I'm worry about what to choose
If you were not seeing any problems with the newer version then I'm not sure why you'd want to change it. If you are getting smooth footage with a version, then you may be OK. In any case, run a test with 2.4.1.30, and then another with 1.8.0.70 using the same movements in the same room/area. HOWEVER...each time you change firmware versions make sure to perform an Autotune on the gimbal...this is a critical step after changing any firmware version.
This video seems to be aimed more toward Ronin users. I have the ak2000 and on the ap I don't have Ballance test.
Do you always shoot video with a lense hood on?
Yes, helps to protect the lens.
@@NathanCoolPhoto ok I was just wondering if it affected ligjt in low light areas.
how is firmware1.8.0.80
Never in my wildest dreams I thought firmware can be an issue, dji software engineers doing poor job