Noooo!! you dont need to take the bumper or anything off, at the bottom of the bumper left corner theres an opening, stick your hand and youll feel the box, unlatch the cover then count the relays from left to right the last relay on the right (#3 ) pull it out install new one YOU RE DONE! worse case scenario you can just unlatch the fender cover, just the forward portion (a 5 mnts task) and you can also reach it from there very easily. I just did it on my 2011 Caliber, was done in 20 mnts. (Oh, demn I just noticed Im writing from my wifes account, well she helped, held the light on my eyes the whole time)
Mine is 2011 and I replaced the battery and alternator wished I watched this first! Can I get the same relay ? Or do I have to get in there first to get the no of the relay .... wanting to try it myself lol
Thanks for this video brother. I had just fixed my 2009 Dodge Caliber SXT yesterday. Same damn issue. I was like, "why did Dodge ever put that relay box below the headlight?" Nonetheless, this video helped me fix the starting issue. Cheers from Calgary.
Did it make a clicking sound at least when you turned the key to start? I’m having this problem happen to me sometimes. But it still makes the relay clicking sound when I go to start. So does that mean I need to replace my relay like you and he did?? Thanks Brother. 😅
@@Thegadgetest I am not sure if my long answer will answer your short question, but when my Caliber's relay died and before I did the relay replacement (which was an abhorrent but fulfilling experience LOL), the starter motor system no longer made any clicking sounds, which really surprised me. Because in my experience, if your car has a weak battery (for my case, the car's battery was fairly new), the starter motor system should still make clicking sounds to signify that there is minimum electric current flowing to the starter motor system. So I thought, this was not a battery issue (check voltage is good). I had a stroke of luck because the day before the relay finally laid to rest, I was still able to start up the Caliber and drove like normal, made a few stops around the city, and was still able to drive back to my underground parking stall. Albeit on the relay's final day, I noticed that the starter motor system had difficulty getting an electric current to power up (make clicking sounds) during my first few attempts of positioning the key to the ignition position. I had dismissed the thought that it was a starter motor system issue, because in my experience even though you have a bad starter motor system, it should still make weak clicking sounds when electric current is present (unless the starter motor system's wiring is physically cut/damaged). But then I noticed that there were no clicking sounds anymore when you position the key to ignition position. That's when I had a "feeling" that it was a relay issue, which it ultimately was. I'd say that a great sign and symptom that you probably need a relay replacement is if you put your key to the ignition position and there are no clicking sounds made (considering that your car battery is good and your stater motor system is good). The old relay was so badly corroded, that one of its prongs was "eaten" by the corrosion process. I am not a licensed mechanic and I am not giving professional advice, but I hope this gives you an idea.
That particular relay is the PCM ignition power relay . PCM relay always has power on pin 1 . When you turn your Key on the security is recognized and the security module powers pin 2 . If you have a NO Crank / No Start at the same time it could be that relay . Even with Key on if you cross the starter it still will not start .
@@charlotteg192 yeah I wasn't sure if the wheel would still turn without power. I had the battery checked twice and the alternator checked once and AutoZone told me the battery was good, and then the other place told me the alternator was good and that the battery wasn't holding a charge...So I figured maybe Autozone was wrong and spent $200 on a battery, I had to take out a lone to buy it because I'm a Veteran living on $1500 a month. 6 months later I got to crank up the car and it won't turn over, so I think damn the battery is dead again...but it's not but a few days from being 6 months old....so I removed the terminals from it and it snowed so I waited about 2 days for it to warm up and the snow to start thawing and so I go back out there to see if it would still turn on it and it wouldn't. So not knowing anyone with jumper cables I had my neighbor take me to go back to where I bought the battery. The guy followed me home and connected a battery with terminals on it he says will jump of his huge truck, but when I open the door and put in the key nothing turned on at all....not even the dashboard, no clicking nothing. He told me it was obviously something else other then the battery....If the battery had completely died or was damaged would it still do this? He insisted that I have a tow truck haul it up there so he could run some tests on it, but I have a feeling he may just be trying to scam me. So I'm going to take the battery up to Autozone again and have them test it.
@@unrealdevop so I wound up losing mine cause after I fixed these then put more money into it it was having similar issues and I just could afford to keep paying for this and that
our 2010 periodically will not start. So we either open hood and close it, or move the shifter nob and eventually we get it to start. Nothing works this time. We took the front bumper off and found that hidden jewel where the relays are. The one on the back left corner-to which you mentioned was the problem on yours- is dirty. So we went ahead and ordered another one. We will have it in tomorrow and hope that it works. If not we are at a loss.
Hand jam thru the funder gap without pulling the bumper took me 10 mins. Just gotta pull the two fucky 7mm(I think) bolts and pull the fender back, then squeeze on in there. Also, that relay spot is stupid as hell and can get rusted out. Check for damage to the relay WIRES as well.
what you have not done is describe the symptom well, this is why there are so many questions, you should clarify what you mean by no start . 1. is the starter motor turning ie is the car car cranking but not " firing" as in the engine starting. 2. Is the starter motor not even turning ie the car seems dead and makes no sounds. if the starter motor wont fire up that could be something completely different. from reading all the comments abut this relay it sounds like it could be the starter relay so the starter motor is not even turning but it would be good if you could clarify. Thanks
I'm going through the same situation now, running fine on Sunday, Monday morning would not start..cranks but no start. Code said it was the camshaft sensor, which I replaced both, but nothing. Also changed the crankshaft sensor, and nothing. It's getting fuel, and all fuses are good. My buddy thinks it's the computer that's bad, but after watching your video, I'm wondering if it could be the relay you are talking about?? The codes showing up are --- P2088, P0010, P2090, P0013. Any thoughts before I have to buy a new computer?
This helped very much thank you very much and I switch two of the relays to see if that one was the problem and it was so gonna go get a new one. also check out The Moose's wrench " how to take off caliber bumper" if needing to know how to take it off.
I have a 2011 Dodge Caliber everything works lights radio windows battery fuses starter it just won’t start and the red dot for the anti theft keeps blinking do you think this could be the relay?
I need a photo of the wiring that goes into that box. we had someone send us a shot but the wiring doesn't match. I was told that since ours was early for 2008 it could have a 2007 harness on it. Help. Thanks
My brother tried helping me using this video. I have 4 fuses and 3 of the 4 eroded and when he pulled them they snapped off inside. He told me to buy new ones i did but when he cleaned the inside where the erosion is he messed it up somehow. I dont know about cars. He put everything back together and just left saying he cant do it. Now im stuck with no car. Any advice please??
Am I supposed to have 5 relay's in my 2008 Dodge Caliber? Mine had 4 the one on the top left in your video was missing and when I tried to take one out and plug it in there was no resistance it just fell in. I couldn't get that last screw off behind that side of the bumper so I couldn't see in there but I went and bought some tools and I'm going to try again in the morning.
What's up Tom, this is Ira Savage. We used to work together. I've seen your video and got my issue fixed, but I have another problem which is with the fuse box by the battery. My dash is going crazy. I think it's some wiring problem because I just got a used control module put on and a throttle body and alternator. They just did the relay b eer cause it wouldn't start. It's running but I still have the box issue
I have a question about the hid installation, i installed the hids myself but never got them to stop the flickering, so then I paid for the extra connection with the fuses/relays and that didn't solve the flickering problem either. Please help, I've already tried to different sets of hid kits and still no luck, please help me.
Marissa S I have an 08 srt4, instead of hid lights, I went with led headlights with additional anti flicker modules that go into the harness inline, couldn’t get hid lights to work or last long, but the leds have lasted pretty good so far and no concerns
I re wired my srt4 caliber fuse box I found the wire I lost all relays are clicking but the fuel pump isnt doing any thing no prime no sound it cranks and cranks but nothing could it be my fuel pump when thier was fuel in the rail she ran for a sec but then died
@@MrJorgvankleef Why do you take the time to post a reply when you DO NOT know what you are talking about ? Oh that's because it's the internet . It is a Starter relay . They are known for rotting out . The reason i replied to Wade Young was because he asked a valid question . Accessory has to be dead while the starter cranks for the engine starts . Read a repair manual before posting inaccurate comments please !!!!
Oh and FYI the bumper comes off in about 14 minuts ! Not a difficult job at all . Another 30 minuts with a wiring diagram and you are on the road again . This is where trained professionals like myself come in . Spend all day on a DYI project or a couple hundred including parts and your on the road again
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Noooo!! you dont need to take the bumper or anything off, at the bottom
of the bumper left corner theres an opening, stick your hand and youll
feel the box, unlatch the cover then count the relays from left to right
the last relay on the right (#3 ) pull it out install new one YOU RE
DONE! worse case scenario you can just unlatch the fender cover, just
the forward portion (a 5 mnts task) and you can also reach it from there
very easily. I just did it on my 2011 Caliber, was done in 20 mnts. (Oh,
demn I just noticed Im writing from my wifes account, well she helped,
held the light on my eyes the whole time)
Right on, might have to employ this trick
Mine is 2011 and I replaced the battery and alternator wished I watched this first! Can I get the same relay ? Or do I have to get in there first to get the no of the relay .... wanting to try it myself lol
HELD THE LIGHTS ON YOUR EYES THE WHOLE TIME😂😂😂😂😂😂
ikr no good deed goes unpunished. Yeah a waste of ucking time with that front clip.
Thanks for the vid what dumb place too hide relays and other electrical connections
Thank You so much. Because of you my daughter's car is fixed.
Thanks for this video brother. I had just fixed my 2009 Dodge Caliber SXT yesterday. Same damn issue. I was like, "why did Dodge ever put that relay box below the headlight?" Nonetheless, this video helped me fix the starting issue. Cheers from Calgary.
Did it make a clicking sound at least when you turned the key to start? I’m having this problem happen to me sometimes. But it still makes the relay clicking sound when I go to start. So does that mean I need to replace my relay like you and he did?? Thanks Brother. 😅
@@Thegadgetest I am not sure if my long answer will answer your short question, but when my Caliber's relay died and before I did the relay replacement (which was an abhorrent but fulfilling experience LOL), the starter motor system no longer made any clicking sounds, which really surprised me.
Because in my experience, if your car has a weak battery (for my case, the car's battery was fairly new), the starter motor system should still make clicking sounds to signify that there is minimum electric current flowing to the starter motor system. So I thought, this was not a battery issue (check voltage is good).
I had a stroke of luck because the day before the relay finally laid to rest, I was still able to start up the Caliber and drove like normal, made a few stops around the city, and was still able to drive back to my underground parking stall.
Albeit on the relay's final day, I noticed that the starter motor system had difficulty getting an electric current to power up (make clicking sounds) during my first few attempts of positioning the key to the ignition position. I had dismissed the thought that it was a starter motor system issue, because in my experience even though you have a bad starter motor system, it should still make weak clicking sounds when electric current is present (unless the starter motor system's wiring is physically cut/damaged).
But then I noticed that there were no clicking sounds anymore when you position the key to ignition position. That's when I had a "feeling" that it was a relay issue, which it ultimately was. I'd say that a great sign and symptom that you probably need a relay replacement is if you put your key to the ignition position and there are no clicking sounds made (considering that your car battery is good and your stater motor system is good).
The old relay was so badly corroded, that one of its prongs was "eaten" by the corrosion process. I am not a licensed mechanic and I am not giving professional advice, but I hope this gives you an idea.
Sir thank you so much! You just saved me a lot of money i replaced the relay switch and it started right up! Thank you!
I'm glad it worked out for ya!!
M
My 2011 has the same issue, week of July 4th 2024. I'm going to work on the car now. Today is Sat. July 6th, 2024 about 2pm central. Get 'er done!!!!
Tom, Thank you very much! this video helped me a lot! in fact it encouraged me to make my own video! thank you again very much!!!
That particular relay is the PCM ignition power relay . PCM relay always has power on pin 1 . When you turn your Key on the security is recognized and the security module powers pin 2 . If you have a NO Crank / No Start at the same time it could be that relay . Even with Key on if you cross the starter it still will not start .
if you turn the wheels all the way to the left you can reach the relays no problem if that helps anyone
How do you turn the wheel when the car won't start and you can't jump it off XD
@@unrealdevop my car would still turn on just wouldn’t start like the battery wasn’t dead or anything....
@@charlotteg192 yeah I wasn't sure if the wheel would still turn without power. I had the battery checked twice and the alternator checked once and AutoZone told me the battery was good, and then the other place told me the alternator was good and that the battery wasn't holding a charge...So I figured maybe Autozone was wrong and spent $200 on a battery, I had to take out a lone to buy it because I'm a Veteran living on $1500 a month. 6 months later I got to crank up the car and it won't turn over, so I think damn the battery is dead again...but it's not but a few days from being 6 months old....so I removed the terminals from it and it snowed so I waited about 2 days for it to warm up and the snow to start thawing and so I go back out there to see if it would still turn on it and it wouldn't. So not knowing anyone with jumper cables I had my neighbor take me to go back to where I bought the battery. The guy followed me home and connected a battery with terminals on it he says will jump of his huge truck, but when I open the door and put in the key nothing turned on at all....not even the dashboard, no clicking nothing. He told me it was obviously something else other then the battery....If the battery had completely died or was damaged would it still do this? He insisted that I have a tow truck haul it up there so he could run some tests on it, but I have a feeling he may just be trying to scam me. So I'm going to take the battery up to Autozone again and have them test it.
@@unrealdevop so I wound up losing mine cause after I fixed these then put more money into it it was having similar issues and I just could afford to keep paying for this and that
@@charlotteg192 Ah, yeah I'm seeing a lot of videos with problems people are having with these.
our 2010 periodically will not start. So we either open hood and close it, or move the shifter nob and eventually we get it to start. Nothing works this time. We took the front bumper off and found that hidden jewel where the relays are. The one on the back left corner-to which you mentioned was the problem on yours- is dirty. So we went ahead and ordered another one. We will have it in tomorrow and hope that it works. If not we are at a loss.
have same problem here, does this fix the issue ?
Hand jam thru the funder gap without pulling the bumper took me 10 mins. Just gotta pull the two fucky 7mm(I think) bolts and pull the fender back, then squeeze on in there. Also, that relay spot is stupid as hell and can get rusted out. Check for damage to the relay WIRES as well.
what you have not done is describe the symptom well, this is why there are so many questions, you should clarify what you mean by no start .
1. is the starter motor turning ie is the car car cranking but not " firing" as in the engine starting.
2. Is the starter motor not even turning ie the car seems dead and makes no sounds. if the starter motor wont fire up that could be something completely different.
from reading all the comments abut this relay it sounds like it could be the starter relay so the starter motor is not even turning but it would be good if you could clarify.
Thanks
I'm going through the same situation now, running fine on Sunday, Monday morning would not start..cranks but no start. Code said it was the camshaft sensor, which I replaced both, but nothing. Also changed the crankshaft sensor, and nothing. It's getting fuel, and all fuses are good. My buddy thinks it's the computer that's bad, but after watching your video, I'm wondering if it could be the relay you are talking about?? The codes showing up are --- P2088, P0010, P2090, P0013. Any thoughts before I have to buy a new computer?
did you figure it out? was it the relay? ours is doing the exact same thing!
Just got same problem, cranks but no start, i replaced clutch 2 days ago could it be the reason ?
Thanks Tom your video worked just like you would have wanted it to thanks for the time and money you save me your new subscriber 😉
This helped very much thank you very much and I switch two of the relays to see if that one was the problem and it was so gonna go get a new one. also check out The Moose's wrench " how to take off caliber bumper" if needing to know how to take it off.
where did you purchase the relay, I am having the same problem and having trouble finding the part
Having the same issue and I appreciate the video but the only thing that wasn't added was the number of the part which is the hardest thing to obtain
If you watch the entire video I show the part number
I have a 2011 Dodge Caliber everything works lights radio windows battery fuses starter it just won’t start and the red dot for the anti theft keeps blinking do you think this could be the relay?
Same problem. Did you ever find out what it was?
dezdame no not yet seems like no one knows good luck
Had same problem - if you have a 2nd key try that. Turned out one key has anti theft issue and wouldn’t start the car, the 2nd key started it right up
I had the same issue until I used the manufactured key, I was using the spare key the whole time.
Which one is for the cooling fan?
I need a photo of the wiring that goes into that box. we had someone send us a shot but the wiring doesn't match. I was told that since ours was early for 2008 it could have a 2007 harness on it.
Help. Thanks
Just hit a deer, my relay switch is fine, what else could it be, car still comes on but won’t crank and start
My brother tried helping me using this video. I have 4 fuses and 3 of the 4 eroded and when he pulled them they snapped off inside. He told me to buy new ones i did but when he cleaned the inside where the erosion is he messed it up somehow. I dont know about cars. He put everything back together and just left saying he cant do it. Now im stuck with no car. Any advice please??
Am I supposed to have 5 relay's in my 2008 Dodge Caliber? Mine had 4 the one on the top left in your video was missing and when I tried to take one out and plug it in there was no resistance it just fell in. I couldn't get that last screw off behind that side of the bumper so I couldn't see in there but I went and bought some tools and I'm going to try again in the morning.
More or less relays depending on how the car was optioned out.. more fancy toys more relays
@@mikelee35 Yeah I was mistaken, mine only has 4, not sure why it had an extra slot with nothing attached to it though.
you are a gem brother thank you
What exactly do all those relays control??? I have NO HIGH BEAMS!!! WASthinking it's the TIPM... But now in curious!!!
I have a 08 dodge caliber it cranks but no start?
What's up Tom, this is Ira Savage. We used to work together. I've seen your video and got my issue fixed, but I have another problem which is with the fuse box by the battery. My dash is going crazy. I think it's some wiring problem because I just got a used control module put on and a throttle body and alternator. They just did the relay b eer cause it wouldn't start. It's running but I still have the box issue
Wish I saw this video before I sunk 300 in a new battery and starter. I did it myself so I saved money but still. Damn.
David Heise I hear ya. Just came across this video after buying a $200 starter.
My starter and battery are good. Just hearing a faint clicking noise. Is that from this relay
What is that part number...I couldn't c it
Will this be the same if the car cranks but doesnt turn over?
Ironic, I have the same problem you are. Crank but no start. No DTC's either - accept for a P0420, catalytic converter below threshhold.
where can I find the relay I have a dodge dealer near me
I have a question about the hid installation, i installed the hids myself but never got them to stop the flickering, so then I paid for the extra connection with the fuses/relays and that didn't solve the flickering problem either. Please help, I've already tried to different sets of hid kits and still no luck, please help me.
Marissa S I have an 08 srt4, instead of hid lights, I went with led headlights with additional anti flicker modules that go into the harness inline, couldn’t get hid lights to work or last long, but the leds have lasted pretty good so far and no concerns
hi buddy, there is some fuel pump relay? my car doed not start, the pump have not energy
hi man, have you checked the fuel pump battery?
🤣🤣😂@@perspectivashen1299
Just curious what are the numbers on the front of your relay fuses?
7325a1
@lia the queen it didnt do anything. If it's trying to start then that relay isnt the problem
@lia the queen if its flickering then its probably the battery. The relay kills the power completely
Caliber 2010 keeps throwing these codes but I know its not diagnosing right...dodge caliber 2010 throwing these codes p2181 p0128 161b p0700 p1607
I re wired my srt4 caliber fuse box I found the wire I lost all relays are clicking but the fuel pump isnt doing any thing no prime no sound it cranks and cranks but nothing could it be my fuel pump when thier was fuel in the rail she ran for a sec but then died
Maybe. If all ths wires look clean I'd put the power straight to it and see what it does. If it still does nothing I'd replace it
I put new relays it still won’t crank i got the tcm code
Could this help?
NO if it cranks but will not start that relay will not fix it
@@7natcho it,s a fan relay... 🖐
@@MrJorgvankleef Why do you take the time to post a reply when you DO NOT know what you are talking about ? Oh that's because it's the internet . It is a Starter relay . They are known for rotting out . The reason i replied to Wade Young was because he asked a valid question . Accessory has to be dead while the starter cranks for the engine starts . Read a repair manual before posting inaccurate comments please !!!!
Where did you find buy the relay
Any auto parts store
Thanks
Oh and FYI the bumper comes off in about 14 minuts ! Not a difficult job at all . Another 30 minuts with a wiring diagram and you are on the road again . This is where trained professionals like myself come in . Spend all day on a DYI project or a couple hundred including parts and your on the road again
dodge caliber 2007 wont start
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so where the fuck did you buy it
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angel.montero
Which one is for the cooling fan?