Thanks Kevin I'll do what I can. I hopefully plan on filming again very shortly as I want to make up for the whole two months we missed. I'm thinking a springer next time.
@@bigdansairguns83 Retay? Tyrant tactical ?Remington warhawk , you did the saber already ,it looks gorgeous , ether way I can't wait brother i am knee deep in making a gillie hat/cape type thing atm
Just getting back into air weapons as an hobbyist after 40 years. Looked at hours and hours of YT stuff. Can say without doubt yours are the most comprehensive posts online. Just realised you also run a business as well. Don't know where you find the time to post this content. Keep them coming. If I lived down south I'd be around your place in a flash.
one of.my favourite rifles is maUser 99. still arround. designed in 1898. These companies keep redesigning but as you say , sometimes old is better. This pcp is fantastic and simple. Like a good old bicicle.
That bolt sold it for me it's smooth and big when your gloves are on. I have the early one and it's worked faultless over the last 12 months can't fault it well maybe the weight.
Hi Robert, it's like absolute butter isn't it? I absolutely love the older M22 even though I'm not really a PCP man. There's just something about its chunkiness that really appeals to me. I'm glad to hear you're enjoying yours Robert.
@@bigdansairguns83 yes Dan I am like you I much prefer my Springers but I have to admit the m22 is value for money and it's so easy to shoot. But I use my Springers more my hw80 Webley omega and my bsa mercury s.
@@roberttaylor6075 The M22 is phenomenal but it's no match when it comes to the fun factor when compared to a springer. I also see you like a Webley Robert.. you sir have excellent taste. The Omega especially is a pretty rifle but I do love the tonka toy feel of the HW80. Cheers Robert!
Caldwell makes a light kit that goes on your chronograph that just stops all errors. I didn’t want to spend the 50 us$ so I ordered some clear white LEDs from eBay, 100ct for 5$ and 2 AA battery holders with on/off switches on them and drilled holes about 1/2” apart up the center of the shade and pushed them in the holes, touched with hot melt glue and wired them up. It is a hell of a lot lighter than Caldwells light kit and way cheaper plus quite fun to do. I haven’t had any since completed...not even 1. I’m going to try and put a picture on my Instagram in a day or two so people can share this easy fix and maybe even improve. Really glad your back. Missed your reviews. By the way one pellet that is of very high quality that is overlooked by damn near everyone but ridiculously affordable,7$ for 500 on Amazon and just hammer game 15.4 grain Daisy Hollow Points. I believe-they are the base pellet for the Gamo Red Fire which as you know was Gamos response the the Polymag. Anyway, just thought you might give them a go. .177&.22 same style, wicked fast mushroom and energy dump on game.
I’ve literally brought 3 rifles because of your reviews and guess what there’s another rifle being added to my collection 👌🏻👌🏻 keep up the good work man me definitely but a lot of people appreciate and admire the time you take todo these videos
Another comprehensive Big Dan’s Airguns review, looks a very nice rifle, but I still fancy the Nova Vista in wood and 177 cal, when all this virus crap has gone I’ll be in touch and order one. Hope your man flu is getting better, nice to see you back, keep em coming I always look forward to your reviews,stay safe Dan in these difficult times.
That really is a proper farm tool, and just as equally a great first pcp for most adults, the value of the pcps of today is brilliant compared to even ten years ago, basic theoben rapids were about £900:00,i spent a touch under the £1300. On a brand new theoben mfr in 2010, if I had the option of the zobroias or artemis or hatsan etc etc, I would of been able to try the sport for a lot less money and a lot earlier because of that, but I'm glad I did get the mfr, it lead to many excellent Ltd edition daystate and bsa rifles in my collection. A carbine version would be a good seller.
Hey mate, budget rifles have come on leaps and bounds these days which is fantastic for the reasons you've mentioned. The main things the budget rifles suffer with are plain stocks and triggers that can be a smidge on the heavy side. The interesting thing is however that the budget sector does seem to be updated quite a lot and even the triggers on a few of them are fantastic. With some minor adjusting the M22 trigger is a genuinely nice unit and the trigger on the Zbroia's and the new Kral's are superb! A carbined M11 would be a fantastic rifle. Thanks mate!
Hi BD, had me worried there for a while , thought you'd left us. Cracking review again. Recently got myself a N, V, alpha, beginning to think I should have tried an m22 first. Oh well need to start saving again. Looking forward to whatever you review next matey.
Hi Andrew, yes mate the weather didn't want to cooperate unfortunately and I had manflu on top of that which didn't help. We've already got the next rifle ready so hopefully we'll get filming any day now. Thanks for waiting for us mate and I'm sorry it has taken so long.
Just watched this after buying the new pr 900w as you mentioned here, they sell it in the box of the previous version which says it has adjustable trigger, the new one isn't two stage or adjustable. Going to take it back
Hi Olof. I believe they are sold in the older boxes much like the Artemis M11/M22. If the trigger is acceptable I'd try it down range before sending it back, they're a laser accurate little gun usually.
Hi Mark, That's a difficult one for me to choose haha. I do think the M16 has more shape to it but there's just something about the M22's brutishness that really does something for me. Cheers Mark!
Re your comment about the trigger, so looks like its the popular copy of the Gamo unit? i had one of these units and fitted a modified custom trigger blade,the creep had gone but after the shot was released the trigger was "floppy" until the gun was recocked,i put this down to the fact that the trigger return spring gets removed to accommodate the new blade and to reduce the pressure, i found it very annoying ,i spoke to the supplier who said this can happen as the return is dependant on a second internal sear spring, i had no confidence in the modded blade so removed it ,i then refitted the original unit but used a 9mm long x 3mm screw in place of the original adjuster screw ,Job done,no creep and everything safe and sound,passed the "bump" test easily, first stage still long but release spot on! Done the same to my current Gamo Hunter 440,nice gun,trigger S***T !!!!!!.
Hi Donald, the M22's use their own trigger as far as I'm aware which is superior to that of the Gamo'esque unit found on the Airacobra. The Gamo Hunter 440's are smart little rifles and they do shoot well but as you've said the trigger can be a bit... naff. They're definitely worth a tune though! Which aftermarket blade did you go for Donald? I've used the Welsh Willy unit and I thought it was superb. Cheers mate.
Hello Dan great to see you. Spot on m8 they do refresh their guns the budget mob . Dont like the word budget, sounds unfair, Looks a solid well made rifle which you will use & enjoy.
Hi Lawson! They do seem to be constantly updating them don't they? I hear their maybe even more new variations coming soon once the Coronavirus fiasco is hopefully over but I can't give away any more lest SMK cut my hands off to stop me typing haha. Cheers mate! Next up a springer!
Nice one Dan, good to see you back, personally i like the safety where it is but I'm a air arms fan , i have a ultimate sporter, and I s400, each to his own, keep up the good work. 😁👍
As soon as somebody defends the safety that's always my next question.. "do you own an Air Arms?" hahaha. As you said mate it's each to their own, I'm sure plenty probably hate the toggle design that I'm a fan of. Cheers Phillip!
@@bigdansairguns83 have you reviewed a air arms rifle? If not why not they are a very well made and accurate rifles for not alot of money especially if you can pick one up second hand, plus they are made un the uk ,😁👍
@@phillipsharpe6459 I've got to get it done mate because they really are lovely bits of kit. I'll see if I can pick up a good example and get it filmed. S410 vs a budget rifle could be a good video too.
Hi Dan, very good and honest review, you mentioned in an e mail to me yesterday that this video was being uploaded. like the look of the gun but i do like the idea of being to attach a suppressor should i want to
Hey mate! Yep, that's what I love about the Artemis gear. If there's absolutely anything you need for your rifle I can almost guarantee someone has already made it and will be selling it. With the baffles and a silencer adaptor/silencer the rifle will be whisper quiet. Thanks younger oldie!
hi dan nice video keep up the good work can you get the ata airborne walnut 177 from the sportman gun centre .uk it is a new one fron turkey no uk review no it thanks ed
I came across another issue with my m22 where the bolt doesnt lock into place after ive cocked it. It goes down just a little bit but not all way to the point where it will lock. Can u give advice on how to fix it? The gun isnt even old its relatively new
Hi Saidal, I'm sorry to hear you're having issues with the M22. If it's new I'd advise taking it back to your dealer as it should still be under warranty. That being said if you wanted to take a look at it yourself it could be a case of a pellet falling into the action and causing a jam. Take the stock off and unscrew the trigger unit and look for a squished pellet on top of the trigger sears. As much as I love the rifle that probe housing is begging to eat a pellet and it's a stupid design. Let me know how you get on mate.
Good to see you back Dan 🙂 and nice review on the M22, looks like a good piece of kit. With the recent release of the pp750 how about a comparison of all the PP pistols? Would be a bit different for you and could be interesting given the relatively positive reviews of the pistols on the forums?? 👍
Hi James, How are you mate? I'm stealing that idea for a future video. I'm tempted to do this with a few of the Co2 pistols too. Thanks James and take care mate.
Hahaha Hi Wayne! It certainly is matey. I did some work on that M22 and she shot beautifully. Sub 5p groups at 50 yards with of all things JSB lead free! Lovely rifle.
yeah, the trigger is really a thing you want to adjust. I have mine on featherweight just now, works great for plinking. And the weight, yeah, its heavy. I have the older revision, wich desent seem to have the regulator. But with 10j settings, and loading it to 200 bar, shooting it down to around 150 bars, not that bad of a drop on the aiming side. I prefer using jsb exact heavy, its a 5.5mmf, buying 5.56 pellets.
I got a baffle strike on my m22 and it was pretty bad upto the point that all 4 baffles were distorted as mine is giving around 33 fpe 3 of them were not that bad so i put those back in im not sure how thatll effect the accuracy i hope it doesnt. And i noticed that the shroud stopper and the shroud itself had slipped a centimeter forward.. maybe that was due to the after math of the baffle strike or maybe that was what caused the baffle strike idk. This was my first pcp and i absolutely loved it i hope its still accurate i didnt test it after that day since i was so bummed out abt what happened.. i cant even find new baffles or shroud replacement for it. Also i hate the trigger out of the box its hard and second stage is too long with loads of creep and i dont know how to adjust it
Hi Dan, great review, thanks for such a comprehensive look at this piece of kit. I have one question, is this the same gun as the SPA M22, I am looking at the SPA which has the same price point as you have mention but is advertised in the .177 which you tested as being a 30 J / 22.1 Lbs/Ft and 330m/s. Wouldn't want to buy this based on your review only to find out its a completely different gun. Cheers.
I’m very new to the world of high grade air guns (previous experience of Daisy’s and the like as a kid), what is a PCP rifle? Are these lethal or good for hunting? Is there such a thing as pest animal control gun (non lethal)? There doesn’t seem to be much info online it seems those who came into this club were ordained at birth or have divine insight the rest of us aren’t privy to - I could be wrong I’ve only been researching for 10 minutes.
Hi Flymachine! A "PCP" or Pre-charged pneumatic rifle is an air rifle that instead of using a spring or CO2 to propel the pellet it uses compressed air instead. Most PCP's are excellent for hunting as they're incredibly easy to shoot due to the lack of any noticeable recoil and most of them also offer multi-shot capability. In regards to power most PCP's are "full power" ranging from 10.5-11+ft-lbs which is more than enough for hunting. That said some smaller or cheaper rifles can run at slightly lower power but these are few and far between. The only thing to bear in mind with a PCP is that you'll also need something to fill it either a pump, divers bottle or an airgun compressor (it needs to be an airgun specific compressor due to the very high pressure outputs required). Thanks Flymachine and I hope this helps, if you ever have any other questions never hesitate to get in touch with us here or on bigdansairguns.co.uk via the contact us section.
The is a guy on eBay that sells an adapter 1/2”-20 that screws into the shroud and allows for a moderator and makes these and the Alpha stupid quiet. 35$
Hi mate. That's a difficult question to answer as they're well made but have been designed with different goals in mind. The Hortitsia is the more refined rifle and has a much nicer looking stock. The M22 is chunkier (especially the metalwork) and whilst it's more crude than the Hortitsia they're also ridiculously reliable (I've never had a single failure with an M22). The Zbroias did have a bad batch of rifles last year however the current batch are much better, they do still have a thin cycling arm however which could be an issue if you load the magazines a bit too harshly. That being said it's easier to accidentally have a pellet fall into the action of the M22 compared to the Hortitsia which can be a nuisance. Both are exceptional rifles however if you think the rifle may end up getting abused or is at high risk of getting damaged (if you'd be hunting in the bush for instance) then I'd say the M22 was tougher simply because I wouldn't want to damage the attractive finish on the Hortitsia. Thanks and I hope this helps.
@@bigdansairguns83 thanks for the answer, I had a 330/180 Khortytsya, I didn’t like the platoon handle, there is a better biathlon side platoon, I’m waiting for the zbroia sapsan to start selling in Ukraine, they have been selling them in other countries for more than a year, but not in Ukraine yet
@@АндрійПисарев Hi mate. The Hortitsia is a lovely rifle but that straight pull bolt isn't to everyone's tastes. It's odd that the Sapsan isn't available in the Ukraine yet I wonder why that is? I know that Zbroia is a Ukrainian rifle but are they popular over there? It might be a lack of popularity as to why they'd focus on other markets first as unfair as that may be. Thanks again!
Zbroya is a Ukrainian manufacturer and is quite popular, it is not clear why the Sapsan is not sold in Ukraine, although for more than a year it has been sold in South Africa, Great Britain, the USA and even in neighboring Poland, and there is no manufacturer in the country, I wrote on Zbroya, they cannot say when and by what price will be sold in Ukraine, it is probably more profitable to sell abroad.@@bigdansairguns83
For the money Snowpeak are unbeatable value for money 🎂, M22, M25 and M50 are all excellent in their own right, good 3rd party parts and mods, their pistols like cp2 and pp750 are excellent carbines, and when you put on a 1/2" unf adapter and good silencer like k3 neo are very quiet, I will never buy any 'high end' PCP air rifles like Daystate, etc
I absolutely agree. Some can use some refining out of the box but the M11/M22/M25/M16's etc are superb rifles with so much potential! Nice triggers when set correctly too and the M11/M22/M25 have the smoothest bolts I've ever used.
Thanks for the review Dan , I’m in the process of videoing 3 budget guns , and every time in the last 5 wks on a Saturday , I’ve bought a gun , it’s turned out to be storm derek or what ever they called them 3 times on the trot, my last gun bought was a Gamo Phox .177 cos I couldn’t get hold of a Nova Vista, ,,after the reviews I really wanted one ,, doubt I’ll get one now because the next one on my list is the expensive item that’s gonna take about 6 months to save up for , any how thanks for the real world review , and glad to see you do plenty of budget guns , cos if you did all the high end priced stuff ,wouldn’t be good for the newbies or people like me who have come back to the hobbie after 25 yrs ,, cheers shaneweightman uk 🇬🇧
Hi Shane! It's great to hear there's going to be another one of us reviewing some of the budget gear mate it's definitely a case of the more the merrier when it comes to the cheaper gear. Oh yeah the weather can be a right pain in the backside especially if you're like me and don't have access to an indoor range. It may be worth contacting some of the brands you'd like to review and explain to them that you're a reviewer and you'd love to review their products, you never know you might just get a bite. Thanks Shane and if you ever need anything never hesitate to get in touch with us either here or at our website at bigdansairguns.co.uk
What a pity, but here n Canada, we got ourselves a bunch of MP's who think that all licensed gun owners are criminals, and as such NOT going to be allowed to protect our ears by banning all and every sound moderator,..because ( i imagine ) they think we are all 'murdering assassin's. All of that is a way of saying, as much as I enjoy these reviews, I cannot enjoy guns that are factory equipped with moderators.I have to therefore not pay much attention to what is being said about those parts. However I can and do enjoy all of your other points on these rifles. Thank you!
Hi Reg, I'm sorry to hear that mate, you've got to love politicians haven't you? They're there to be civil servants and yet they seem to go out of their way to make your life as difficult as possible. But on the plus side mate at least you can still enjoy them, the poor Scots have to apply for a license to own an air rifle these days. Things will improve one day I'm sure mate, we can only hope.
@@bigdansairguns83 Hahaha,..you may not believe this but I have the radio on and the announcer just said he would try to cheer up folks a bit by playing the old song by Bobby McFarrin ( i hope I spelled his name correctly ) 'Don't worry, be Happy! '. OK now I'm smiling,...LOL!
Hi mate! It's an interesting one isn't it? I'm torn between both as the Mk2 to me feels a bit more refined but I actually really like the finger grooves on the Mk1 (many didn't as they thought it made the rifle look cheap). It's a close call to be sure.
a bit unfair for the Accupel it had a better first group, and the jsb had a flyer, and the next group at 35yards was still better then the jsb and the last shot of target was not that good so it makes a mockery of the testing and I would say the Accupells were the better pellet strange how the other target for the Accupells went with the wind...
@@bigdansairguns83 It did pretty well it would be interesting to see what these budget guns do at longer distances, I remember watching Giles at air gun gear review the M16 I think it was and the in his words it was a dog lol he tuned it nicely though. The only air rifle I own is a BSA R-10 SE it's just perfect for me accurate nice weight and very well balanced needless to say be afraid of the man with one gun he probably knows how to use it. I do miss a nice Springer though.
@@waynejones3413 I think it was the M30 that Giles tested I believe and he wasn't the biggest fan. I really wanted to take it out further and lead it in more with the JSB's but the weather is forecast to be windy for the next week and I think we'd all been waiting long enough for our first 2020 review haha. The main disadvantage I've noticed with the Chinese barrels are that they're usually pellet fussy but when you do find the pellet they like they're absolute lasers. A few of my customers that have M16's have posted their groups on a lot of the online forums with sub 5p groups at 50 yards being reasonably common. Not bad for a budget PCP eh!
@@bigdansairguns83 I'm glad they do well it puts pressure on the market to keep prices down but hopefully not compromise on performance or build quality.
Hey mate. There's a lot to love about the HW100 in general they're a lovely rifle. Not the prettiest but they have a workmanlike appeal to them which I'm a big fan of.
Hey Busby! The mags are fiddly and you definitely need to seat the pellets. That said you can get far better 3d printed mags which are much much easier to load.
Hi Arkan, I do understand where you're coming from and we will refine the reviews a bit more however it's hard to keep the run time down considering the testing that most of our viewers like us doing. We'll hopefully figure out a happy medium for both types of viewer next time.
Great to have you back Dan :)
Thanks mate!
I'm sorry that it has taken so long and that I looked like a corpse on camera. A sheet of A4 had more tan than me there haha.
@@bigdansairguns83 Best reviews are on your stream dan.Keep up thre great work :)
Nice to see you back at it , another informative video .thanks Dan get better soon mate
Thanks Kevin I'll do what I can. I hopefully plan on filming again very shortly as I want to make up for the whole two months we missed.
I'm thinking a springer next time.
@@bigdansairguns83 Retay? Tyrant tactical ?Remington warhawk , you did the saber already ,it looks gorgeous , ether way I can't wait brother i
am knee deep in making a gillie hat/cape type thing atm
A comprehensive and excellent review, thank you.
Hi Jeremy,
thanks for watching bud I'm glad you liked it.
All the best.
Just getting back into air weapons as an hobbyist after 40 years. Looked at hours and hours of YT stuff. Can say without doubt yours are the most comprehensive posts online. Just realised you also run a business as well. Don't know where you find the time to post this content. Keep them coming. If I lived down south I'd be around your place in a flash.
one of.my favourite rifles is maUser 99. still arround. designed in 1898. These companies keep redesigning but as you say , sometimes old is better. This pcp is fantastic and simple. Like a good old bicicle.
That bolt sold it for me it's smooth and big when your gloves are on. I have the early one and it's worked faultless over the last 12 months can't fault it well maybe the weight.
Hi Robert,
it's like absolute butter isn't it? I absolutely love the older M22 even though I'm not really a PCP man. There's just something about its chunkiness that really appeals to me.
I'm glad to hear you're enjoying yours Robert.
@@bigdansairguns83 yes Dan I am like you I much prefer my Springers but I have to admit the m22 is value for money and it's so easy to shoot. But I use my Springers more my hw80 Webley omega and my bsa mercury s.
@@roberttaylor6075 The M22 is phenomenal but it's no match when it comes to the fun factor when compared to a springer.
I also see you like a Webley Robert.. you sir have excellent taste. The Omega especially is a pretty rifle but I do love the tonka toy feel of the HW80.
Cheers Robert!
@@bigdansairguns83 i have an 80 to love it to bits, its stripped for a full resto.
Great review Dan, great to see you back, , Cheers
Thanks Casper! It's good to be back mate.
Thanks for waiting for us haha.
@@bigdansairguns83 no probs mate, worth waiting for, any time, Cheers
Caldwell makes a light kit that goes on your chronograph that just stops all errors. I didn’t want to spend the 50 us$ so I ordered some clear white LEDs from eBay, 100ct for 5$ and 2 AA battery holders with on/off switches on them and drilled holes about 1/2” apart up the center of the shade and pushed them in the holes, touched with hot melt glue and wired them up. It is a hell of a lot lighter than Caldwells light kit and way cheaper plus quite fun to do. I haven’t had any since completed...not even 1. I’m going to try and put a picture on my Instagram in a day or two so people can share this easy fix and maybe even improve. Really glad your back. Missed your reviews. By the way one pellet that is of very high quality that is overlooked by damn near everyone but ridiculously affordable,7$ for 500 on Amazon and just hammer game 15.4 grain Daisy Hollow Points. I believe-they are the base pellet for the Gamo Red Fire which as you know was Gamos response the the Polymag. Anyway, just thought you might give them a go. .177&.22 same style, wicked fast mushroom and energy dump on game.
I’ve literally brought 3 rifles because of your reviews and guess what there’s another rifle being added to my collection 👌🏻👌🏻 keep up the good work man me definitely but a lot of people appreciate and admire the time you take todo these videos
why? just buy one FX airgun, and stop shopping for bunch of trashguns
Another comprehensive Big Dan’s Airguns review, looks a very nice rifle, but I still fancy the Nova Vista in wood and 177 cal, when all this virus crap has gone I’ll be in touch and order one. Hope your man flu is getting better, nice to see you back, keep em coming I always look forward to your reviews,stay safe Dan in these difficult times.
That really is a proper farm tool, and just as equally a great first pcp for most adults, the value of the pcps of today is brilliant compared to even ten years ago, basic theoben rapids were about £900:00,i spent a touch under the £1300. On a brand new theoben mfr in 2010, if I had the option of the zobroias or artemis or hatsan etc etc, I would of been able to try the sport for a lot less money and a lot earlier because of that, but I'm glad I did get the mfr, it lead to many excellent Ltd edition daystate and bsa rifles in my collection.
A carbine version would be a good seller.
Hey mate,
budget rifles have come on leaps and bounds these days which is fantastic for the reasons you've mentioned.
The main things the budget rifles suffer with are plain stocks and triggers that can be a smidge on the heavy side. The interesting thing is however that the budget sector does seem to be updated quite a lot and even the triggers on a few of them are fantastic. With some minor adjusting the M22 trigger is a genuinely nice unit and the trigger on the Zbroia's and the new Kral's are superb!
A carbined M11 would be a fantastic rifle.
Thanks mate!
Hi BD, had me worried there for a while , thought you'd left us. Cracking review again. Recently got myself a N, V, alpha, beginning to think I should have tried an m22 first. Oh well need to start saving again. Looking forward to whatever you review next matey.
Hi Andrew,
yes mate the weather didn't want to cooperate unfortunately and I had manflu on top of that which didn't help.
We've already got the next rifle ready so hopefully we'll get filming any day now.
Thanks for waiting for us mate and I'm sorry it has taken so long.
Just watched this after buying the new pr 900w as you mentioned here, they sell it in the box of the previous version which says it has adjustable trigger, the new one isn't two stage or adjustable. Going to take it back
Hi Olof.
I believe they are sold in the older boxes much like the Artemis M11/M22. If the trigger is acceptable I'd try it down range before sending it back, they're a laser accurate little gun usually.
Very nice , very nice indeed ... superb review , well worth the wait ... think the M16 pips it on looks though ...
Hi Mark,
That's a difficult one for me to choose haha. I do think the M16 has more shape to it but there's just something about the M22's brutishness that really does something for me.
Cheers Mark!
Re your comment about the trigger, so looks like its the popular copy of the Gamo unit? i had one of these units and fitted a modified custom trigger blade,the creep had gone but after the shot was released the trigger was "floppy" until the gun was recocked,i put this down to the fact that the trigger return spring gets removed to accommodate the new blade and to reduce the pressure, i found it very annoying ,i spoke to the supplier who said this can happen as the return is dependant on a second internal sear spring, i had no confidence in the modded blade so removed it ,i then refitted the original unit but used a 9mm long x 3mm screw in place of the original adjuster screw ,Job done,no creep and everything safe and sound,passed the "bump" test easily, first stage still long but release spot on!
Done the same to my current Gamo Hunter 440,nice gun,trigger S***T !!!!!!.
Hi Donald,
the M22's use their own trigger as far as I'm aware which is superior to that of the Gamo'esque unit found on the Airacobra.
The Gamo Hunter 440's are smart little rifles and they do shoot well but as you've said the trigger can be a bit... naff. They're definitely worth a tune though!
Which aftermarket blade did you go for Donald? I've used the Welsh Willy unit and I thought it was superb.
Cheers mate.
Hello Dan great to see you. Spot on m8 they do refresh their guns the budget mob . Dont like the word budget, sounds unfair, Looks a solid well made rifle which you will use & enjoy.
Hi Lawson!
They do seem to be constantly updating them don't they? I hear their maybe even more new variations coming soon once the Coronavirus fiasco is hopefully over but I can't give away any more lest SMK cut my hands off to stop me typing haha.
Cheers mate! Next up a springer!
Nice one Dan, good to see you back, personally i like the safety where it is but I'm a air arms fan , i have a ultimate sporter, and I s400, each to his own, keep up the good work. 😁👍
As soon as somebody defends the safety that's always my next question.. "do you own an Air Arms?" hahaha.
As you said mate it's each to their own, I'm sure plenty probably hate the toggle design that I'm a fan of.
Cheers Phillip!
@@bigdansairguns83 have you reviewed a air arms rifle? If not why not they are a very well made and accurate rifles for not alot of money especially if you can pick one up second hand, plus they are made un the uk ,😁👍
@@phillipsharpe6459 I've got to get it done mate because they really are lovely bits of kit. I'll see if I can pick up a good example and get it filmed. S410 vs a budget rifle could be a good video too.
@@bigdansairguns83 look forward to seeing that one , as a big air arms fan , 😁👍
Sir very informative video thanks, sir can you make video on p15 vs p10 and m22 vs m16 thanks
Hi Muhammad!
That sounds like an interesting idea I'll see what I can do.
Thanks for the suggestion!
very nice gun , super beautiful pcp
Hi Dan, very good and honest review, you mentioned in an e mail to me yesterday that this video was being uploaded. like the look of the gun but i do like the idea of being to attach a suppressor should i want to
Hey mate!
Yep, that's what I love about the Artemis gear. If there's absolutely anything you need for your rifle I can almost guarantee someone has already made it and will be selling it. With the baffles and a silencer adaptor/silencer the rifle will be whisper quiet.
Thanks younger oldie!
hi dan nice video keep up the good work can you get the ata airborne walnut 177 from the sportman gun centre .uk it is a new one fron turkey no uk review no it thanks ed
Hi Eddie, we'll see what we can do mate we never say never. They're an interesting looking rifle that's for sure!
Thanks for watching Eddie.
Great review mate don't worry about how long the review is better to cover everything 👍 hopefully the m16 is still king?
I came across another issue with my m22 where the bolt doesnt lock into place after ive cocked it. It goes down just a little bit but not all way to the point where it will lock. Can u give advice on how to fix it? The gun isnt even old its relatively new
Hi Saidal,
I'm sorry to hear you're having issues with the M22. If it's new I'd advise taking it back to your dealer as it should still be under warranty.
That being said if you wanted to take a look at it yourself it could be a case of a pellet falling into the action and causing a jam. Take the stock off and unscrew the trigger unit and look for a squished pellet on top of the trigger sears.
As much as I love the rifle that probe housing is begging to eat a pellet and it's a stupid design.
Let me know how you get on mate.
Good to see you back Dan 🙂 and nice review on the M22, looks like a good piece of kit.
With the recent release of the pp750 how about a comparison of all the PP pistols? Would be a bit different for you and could be interesting given the relatively positive reviews of the pistols on the forums?? 👍
Hi James,
How are you mate? I'm stealing that idea for a future video. I'm tempted to do this with a few of the Co2 pistols too.
Thanks James and take care mate.
Cant get a NVA wood for love nor money atm. This looks a good alternative. Getting a bit torn between this and Aircobra. Thanks for the reviews.
That's my old M22 great gun
Hahaha Hi Wayne! It certainly is matey. I did some work on that M22 and she shot beautifully. Sub 5p groups at 50 yards with of all things JSB lead free!
Lovely rifle.
If I didn't have a Gamo phox I'd consider it.
Good review as always!
Thanks Qyuubi! It's just a shame that the wind didn't want to cooperate, it did have impeccable timing though.
@@bigdansairguns83 Tell me about it. 😅 I do archery on Sunday's and due to these storms and rain I wasn't shooting for a month.
@@qg786 I think we're due a lovely summer.. that being said I bet we still get a hosepipe ban haha. Cheers mate.
yeah, the trigger is really a thing you want to adjust. I have mine on featherweight just now, works great for plinking. And the weight, yeah, its heavy. I have the older revision, wich desent seem to have the regulator. But with 10j settings, and loading it to 200 bar, shooting it down to around 150 bars, not that bad of a drop on the aiming side. I prefer using jsb exact heavy, its a 5.5mmf, buying 5.56 pellets.
and thats on around 70ft i usually shoot.. with a ebay special 9x scope
I got a baffle strike on my m22 and it was pretty bad upto the point that all 4 baffles were distorted as mine is giving around 33 fpe 3 of them were not that bad so i put those back in im not sure how thatll effect the accuracy i hope it doesnt. And i noticed that the shroud stopper and the shroud itself had slipped a centimeter forward.. maybe that was due to the after math of the baffle strike or maybe that was what caused the baffle strike idk. This was my first pcp and i absolutely loved it i hope its still accurate i didnt test it after that day since i was so bummed out abt what happened.. i cant even find new baffles or shroud replacement for it. Also i hate the trigger out of the box its hard and second stage is too long with loads of creep and i dont know how to adjust it
Hi Dan, great review, thanks for such a comprehensive look at this piece of kit. I have one question, is this the same gun as the SPA M22, I am looking at the SPA which has the same price point as you have mention but is advertised in the .177 which you tested as being a 30 J / 22.1 Lbs/Ft and 330m/s. Wouldn't want to buy this based on your review only to find out its a completely different gun. Cheers.
I’m very new to the world of high grade air guns (previous experience of Daisy’s and the like as a kid), what is a PCP rifle? Are these lethal or good for hunting? Is there such a thing as pest animal control gun (non lethal)? There doesn’t seem to be much info online it seems those who came into this club were ordained at birth or have divine insight the rest of us aren’t privy to - I could be wrong I’ve only been researching for 10 minutes.
Hi Flymachine!
A "PCP" or Pre-charged pneumatic rifle is an air rifle that instead of using a spring or CO2 to propel the pellet it uses compressed air instead.
Most PCP's are excellent for hunting as they're incredibly easy to shoot due to the lack of any noticeable recoil and most of them also offer multi-shot capability. In regards to power most PCP's are "full power" ranging from 10.5-11+ft-lbs which is more than enough for hunting. That said some smaller or cheaper rifles can run at slightly lower power but these are few and far between.
The only thing to bear in mind with a PCP is that you'll also need something to fill it either a pump, divers bottle or an airgun compressor (it needs to be an airgun specific compressor due to the very high pressure outputs required).
Thanks Flymachine and I hope this helps, if you ever have any other questions never hesitate to get in touch with us here or on bigdansairguns.co.uk via the contact us section.
Hi, I have Artemis P15 and loving it. What is the difference between M11 and M22? What is the FPS? Oh, for the .22.
The is a guy on eBay that sells an adapter 1/2”-20 that screws into the shroud and allows for a moderator and makes these and the Alpha stupid quiet. 35$
Is the m22 a aa s510 clone? If so i would like to know if the action screws are in the same place.
Which rifle did you like more Zbroya Khortytsya or SPA M22? Which one is made better?
Hi mate.
That's a difficult question to answer as they're well made but have been designed with different goals in mind.
The Hortitsia is the more refined rifle and has a much nicer looking stock.
The M22 is chunkier (especially the metalwork) and whilst it's more crude than the Hortitsia they're also ridiculously reliable (I've never had a single failure with an M22).
The Zbroias did have a bad batch of rifles last year however the current batch are much better, they do still have a thin cycling arm however which could be an issue if you load the magazines a bit too harshly. That being said it's easier to accidentally have a pellet fall into the action of the M22 compared to the Hortitsia which can be a nuisance.
Both are exceptional rifles however if you think the rifle may end up getting abused or is at high risk of getting damaged (if you'd be hunting in the bush for instance) then I'd say the M22 was tougher simply because I wouldn't want to damage the attractive finish on the Hortitsia.
Thanks and I hope this helps.
@@bigdansairguns83 thanks for the answer, I had a 330/180 Khortytsya, I didn’t like the platoon handle, there is a better biathlon side platoon, I’m waiting for the zbroia sapsan to start selling in Ukraine, they have been selling them in other countries for more than a year, but not in Ukraine yet
@@АндрійПисарев Hi mate.
The Hortitsia is a lovely rifle but that straight pull bolt isn't to everyone's tastes. It's odd that the Sapsan isn't available in the Ukraine yet I wonder why that is?
I know that Zbroia is a Ukrainian rifle but are they popular over there? It might be a lack of popularity as to why they'd focus on other markets first as unfair as that may be.
Thanks again!
Zbroya is a Ukrainian manufacturer and is quite popular, it is not clear why the Sapsan is not sold in Ukraine, although for more than a year it has been sold in South Africa, Great Britain, the USA and even in neighboring Poland, and there is no manufacturer in the country, I wrote on Zbroya, they cannot say when and by what price will be sold in Ukraine, it is probably more profitable to sell abroad.@@bigdansairguns83
Very nice
For the money Snowpeak are unbeatable value for money 🎂, M22, M25 and M50 are all excellent in their own right, good 3rd party parts and mods, their pistols like cp2 and pp750 are excellent carbines, and when you put on a 1/2" unf adapter and good silencer like k3 neo are very quiet, I will never buy any 'high end' PCP air rifles like Daystate, etc
I absolutely agree.
Some can use some refining out of the box but the M11/M22/M25/M16's etc are superb rifles with so much potential! Nice triggers when set correctly too and the M11/M22/M25 have the smoothest bolts I've ever used.
@@bigdansairguns83 Nice one Big Dan and thanks for your excellent reviews 👍
Thanks for the review Dan , I’m in the process of videoing 3 budget guns , and every time in the last 5 wks on a Saturday , I’ve bought a gun , it’s turned out to be storm derek or what ever they called them 3 times on the trot, my last gun bought was a Gamo Phox .177 cos I couldn’t get hold of a Nova Vista, ,,after the reviews I really wanted one ,, doubt I’ll get one now because the next one on my list is the expensive item that’s gonna take about 6 months to save up for , any how thanks for the real world review , and glad to see you do plenty of budget guns , cos if you did all the high end priced stuff ,wouldn’t be good for the newbies or people like me who have come back to the hobbie after 25 yrs ,, cheers shaneweightman uk 🇬🇧
Hi Shane!
It's great to hear there's going to be another one of us reviewing some of the budget gear mate it's definitely a case of the more the merrier when it comes to the cheaper gear.
Oh yeah the weather can be a right pain in the backside especially if you're like me and don't have access to an indoor range.
It may be worth contacting some of the brands you'd like to review and explain to them that you're a reviewer and you'd love to review their products, you never know you might just get a bite.
Thanks Shane and if you ever need anything never hesitate to get in touch with us either here or at our website at bigdansairguns.co.uk
They have a good gun if you get lucky. They need to up their qc majorly.
Hello mate, whereabouts could i get my hands on one of these? Where would you reccommend?
In your opinion, better than a Liberty?
Does m22 have barrel droop
sir what different nova vista hp 900w, or M22. plz guide.
WHICH IS THE BEST M22 OR M25?
What a pity, but here n Canada, we got ourselves a bunch of MP's who think that all licensed gun owners are criminals, and as such NOT going to be allowed to protect our ears by banning all and every sound moderator,..because ( i imagine ) they think we are all 'murdering assassin's.
All of that is a way of saying, as much as I enjoy these reviews, I cannot enjoy guns that are factory equipped with moderators.I have to therefore not pay much attention to what is being said about those parts. However I can and do enjoy all of your other points on these rifles. Thank you!
Hi Reg,
I'm sorry to hear that mate, you've got to love politicians haven't you? They're there to be civil servants and yet they seem to go out of their way to make your life as difficult as possible.
But on the plus side mate at least you can still enjoy them, the poor Scots have to apply for a license to own an air rifle these days.
Things will improve one day I'm sure mate, we can only hope.
@@bigdansairguns83 Hahaha,..you may not believe this but I have the radio on and the announcer just said he would try to cheer up folks a bit by playing the old song by Bobby McFarrin ( i hope I spelled his name correctly ) 'Don't worry, be Happy! '. OK now I'm smiling,...LOL!
Is this gun in any version regulated ?
Plz tell me the wieght of jsb???
The MK1 stock looks nicer , A much nicer cheek piece .
Hi mate!
It's an interesting one isn't it? I'm torn between both as the Mk2 to me feels a bit more refined but I actually really like the finger grooves on the Mk1 (many didn't as they thought it made the rifle look cheap).
It's a close call to be sure.
As i say the big names can go further but the less well known are catching fast and will over take and it starts again
a bit unfair for the Accupel it had a better first group, and the jsb had a flyer, and the next group at 35yards was still better then the jsb and the last shot of target was not that good so it makes a mockery of the testing and I would say the Accupells were the better pellet strange how the other target for the Accupells went with the wind...
get on ,, with it,,,
It's the internals they need to spend time on, only a few minutes in to the video I hope I eat my words.
Hi Wayne,
the suspense is killing me mate don't just leave me hanging like that!
@@bigdansairguns83 It did pretty well it would be interesting to see what these budget guns do at longer distances, I remember watching Giles at air gun gear review the M16 I think it was and the in his words it was a dog lol he tuned it nicely though.
The only air rifle I own is a BSA R-10 SE it's just perfect for me accurate nice weight and very well balanced needless to say be afraid of the man with one gun he probably knows how to use it.
I do miss a nice Springer though.
@@waynejones3413
I think it was the M30 that Giles tested I believe and he wasn't the biggest fan.
I really wanted to take it out further and lead it in more with the JSB's but the weather is forecast to be windy for the next week and I think we'd all been waiting long enough for our first 2020 review haha.
The main disadvantage I've noticed with the Chinese barrels are that they're usually pellet fussy but when you do find the pellet they like they're absolute lasers.
A few of my customers that have M16's have posted their groups on a lot of the online forums with sub 5p groups at 50 yards being reasonably common. Not bad for a budget PCP eh!
@@bigdansairguns83 I'm glad they do well it puts pressure on the market to keep prices down but hopefully not compromise on performance or build quality.
Hw100, has a great safety
Hey mate.
There's a lot to love about the HW100 in general they're a lovely rifle. Not the prettiest but they have a workmanlike appeal to them which I'm a big fan of.
That PR900 looks like being a 1:1 clone of Diana Storm rider.
Hi Tor.
The PR900 actually predates the Storm rider I believe.
Cheers matey
@@bigdansairguns83 OK. than it's the other way around. I mean, one has to bi blind not to see "the twins" level of similarity...
We're, weren't, nott was, wasn't lol.
price in dollar please
I am. New sir from Pakistan your frindon you toub
Not impressed, especially with the mags, thank you for the review, I'll avoid this rifle.
Hey Busby!
The mags are fiddly and you definitely need to seat the pellets. That said you can get far better 3d printed mags which are much much easier to load.
@@bigdansairguns83 Thank you
Who wants a 52 minutes review?
Hi Arkan,
I do understand where you're coming from and we will refine the reviews a bit more however it's hard to keep the run time down considering the testing that most of our viewers like us doing.
We'll hopefully figure out a happy medium for both types of viewer next time.
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Hi, I have Artemis P15 and loving it. What is the difference between M11 and M22? What is the FPS? Oh, for the .22.