I bought that rifle in caliber 22, I have had it for 1 year and I must say that it is spectacular, very precise and powerful. With jsb pellets 18.13grains it reaches 900fps. Greetings from La Serena, Chile.
Great video Dan.No need to apologise for the length of the review.I think i speak for best part of us,we realy enjoy your reviews.Keep em coming mate !!! :)
Thanks Group 13! It's a balancing act as they can quite easily go over an hour haha. We should if we're lucky start filming our next review very very soon... it's another .25 so I've told everyone to hide the valuables as I do tend to get carried away.
Marksman pointed pellets are a real oddball. I know them as 'fairground' pellets. They were all I could afford in my long ago youth in my Relum Telly and to be fair it was all the local hardware store stocked. Shooters today don't have the slightest idea today of just how spoiled they are for pellet choice.
Tengo el mismo rifle hace 1 año y es espectacular, muy preciso y potente. Para cazar conejos y aves es una maravilla. Además de que es muy hermoso. Greetings from Chile.
For some reason the video quality isn't the usual 1080 but has gone down to 720p.. I've got no idea what's going on at TH-cam but originally it even tried uploading the video in 540p.. no thanks. Next time if we can we'll try uploading in 4k and see if that works, so you'll get to see my ugly mug in ultra high definition.
Glad to see that you have a proper target holder, at last. Also dont use backround music when your acctualy shooting, i think most like to hear the gun and pellet hit the target dan.
@@chriscleeves1711 Hi Chris. I can't do that I'm afraid matey as if we don't far forward the footage this would've been a 2 hour long video haha. If you don't mute the sound it sounds like some sort of demonic worship is going on in the background. I'll see if I can find a middle ground for our next video.
The best place for a safety is anywhere that's not near the trigger (eg BSA clx's, Walther LGU) but if you must have it within the trigger guard, it is better IMHO to have a cross bolt like the Kuzey than a paddle which requires your finger moving towards the trigger in order to make the gun safe.
Great review and a cracking piece of kit. Nearly 100 shots in .177 and 14 shots in a mag. You really cant complain. After a little fettle it should shine.
Hi Roy! It's pretty much spot on isn't it? Shot count wise she's about the same as an S410 so no complaints there and with a barrel clean and some leading in it'll only be even better! As you've said tons of potential.
I totally agree with the fill probe. 8mm is pretty much the standard here in the USA. Not to mention it is so deep inside the stock🤷♂️💯. Definitely room to improve that system.
Hi Heath! It drives me wild mate why on earth do they keep doing that? Just make it standard size and we're all happy. It's only a nitpick but it's an annoying one.
Honestly I've not had the best results with FTT green.... but the JSB's are usually pretty damn good. If you really want a laugh though get yourself a .25 and use JSB lead free... you'll never touch your .22 again. 😉
Dan , that was AWESOME .. great vid & content. . Kinda like that rifle , deffo gonna give them Norma pellets a bash , heard a few good things said on AGF fb pages ..
Hey Mark! Thanks mate that means a lot. The Kuzey is a lovely rifle and shoots very well but the finish is out of this world for a £520 rifle. Give those Norma's a go Mark and let me know what you think.
I think all these rifles from Turkey are made by Kral they all look the same this isn't a criticism as I own the Kral Jumbo in .22 and Kral Puncher maxi in.177 both guns are tack drivers when using JSB pellets and the finish on the guns for the price is awesome keep the reviews coming Dan there Excellent
Hi Mike! They're a damn good pellet to be fair matey despite my ribbing of them to begin with. I'll have a look around for you when I get a spare minute to see if I can source any for you and I'll send you a link. Thanks Mike.
Great review Dan, I have been waiting for you to review the K600. I went and bought one back in January without having any reviews to refer to as I don't speak Afrikans, Russian or Turkish! I really like my Kuzey K600, it is on a par with the Reximex Pretensis, they are very similar in looks, the Pretensis is lighter . I wish the Kuzey was regulated, I am hoping as they catch on that Lane or whomever sort out a reg. I shoot my Pretensis more as it has a higher fill pressure so more shots. The only gripe I have with the Kuzey is that every now and again you will get some resistance as you push the cocking lever forward and you can guarantee that it will be a flyer, I find in .22 the JSB Exact Diablo heavy 18 grain are best but the 16 grain work well as well, I found it a bit pellet fussy but my Pretensis isn't. It is a great rifle for the money, I really like my Turkish walnut stock traditional rifles
Hey Allan! They're a lovely rifle aren't they? Just out of interest try a Reximex mag in that Kuzey and see how she groups. I find the Kuzey mags are a bit fiddly and I've spoken to RR who've said that Kuzey are looking into it.
@@bigdansairguns83 I like them both and it is hard to choose between them.Yes ,I noticed that the mags are interchangeable,I shall give that a whirl as you suggest.I just get the occasional pellet that won't feed properly and I can bet my house on it being a flyer.I am definitely in your Turkish gun lovers club lol
Have to say again Dan, yet another superb review! Informative and extremely well presented. And "Shotguns with a tighter group".... Brilliant! 🤣 Nice one! 😎👌
Hahaha thanks JPF! yeah those Marksmans didn't exactly behave in this rifle. I'm glad there weren't any planes going over as they'd have been at serious risk!
Hello Dan, I was fitting a regulator to a friends Kral Empire X last week and the fact that Kral seem to be the only one to put oversized fill ports on their rifles really is irritating. I decided to buy a new one and fitted it in my pillar drill, like a drill bit. I then switched the drill on and using a metal file took it down to fit our standard fitting fill whips. It is a good work around. I didn't use his original fill port because it wasn't my gun to test it with, but for about £8 for the new one it certainly is easy enough job to bring it down to the standard fitting that we are all used to. The Kuzey brand look quite nice rifles. You should see if you can get their unusual underlever version to test next. I have the Reximex Regime. I have just fit a regulator to that and for me I think the Reximex Brand is a more upmarket Kral. I will have to contact Range Right to see if I can review some of their air-guns, although not being an RFD, I am not sure if that would be possible. I have considered applying for a media RFD license like And from AAR, which would help a lot. Love your videos. They are always good to watch. I can understand it must be hard to find the time to film, having a business to run. At least I am retired now, and do it as a hobby around looking after the Grand Daughters. Best Wishes Mark Holding (Airgun Sniper Elite)
Nice one Dan Some interesting stuff coming out of Turkey as you say, lets just hope the make a single shot pcp soon for target shooters Keep up the good work big man :)
Haha hey Chris! Genuinely mate I think if they keep going the way they are the Turks will be a serious force to be reckoned with very soon. Even now we've seen the groups that the Kral's/Reximex's and now the Kuzeys can get and this is even without a barrel clean. The Kuzey is another big step forward as the build on the metalwork is genuinely gorgeous and the stock takes some beating too. Cheers mate and look after yourself!
Hiya bud iv got a few questions on this rifle what fill pressure did you fill upto cos iv just been just been reading some spec's about it and they say 210 shots on a 300 bar fill which I thought was quite high and the weight 3.75kg which I thought a tad hefty and is there anyone you know of in the UK that is willing to do tuning work on the Turkish stable of rifles cos there's afew that are taking my eye now and are you going to do a review of the K300 I'd be really interested in a review on that, anyway keep up the great work pal your reviews are always really good
Hi Alex! 210 shots per fill is a bit extreme as is 300bar, our UK spec rifles have a max fill off memory of 200bar. For the K600 around 80 full power shots per fill is to be expected. For Turkish airgun tuning contact us at bigdansairguns.co.uk and we can get you sorted no problem at all. A K300 review sounds interesting I'll definitely make sure to get one done for you Alex. Thanks Alex!
Hey Clangerbasher! I don't think they're imported any more I'm afraid matey. A shame as they're an interesting little rifle but I think they're focusing more on the larger rifles.
@@bigdansairguns83 Oh well. I will just have to buy a HW100 BP carbine if the time comes. I learning to ride a motorbike. So I am looking for a small bullpup. I will worry about it later. Shame I liked their styling. Thanks for replying.
Yep, I bought a .22 Kuzey 900K but sadly it also seems to suffer from that really annoying 'in your ear' clang when the hammer strikes the air release valve which also is to the annoyance those seated close to you who also hear it. This clang only appears to be prevalent to rifles based on Turkish actions. Do all of the different manufacturers all use the same action but only slightly differ the looks and add different names? It appears so. Can they not reduce this somehow because it is making me think twice as hard before I buy any more Turkish air rifles.
Hi Stephen! The Turkish rifles in general these days are usually superb. What I love is that they'd always listen to feedback and they improve rifles as they go until they're cracking things. This is why I emphasized the trigger and the filling probe as hopefully someone will listen. The build on these new rifles is amazing. The metalwork is genuinely 10/10 and you could sit it beside any AAA rifle and not only would it match them at range but also beat some of them in build quality.
Quite honestly that hole with the probe and gauge offends me. If I were to buy one then the first thing I would do is extend both Quickfill and gauge to an inset level with the bottom of the stock using a standard Quickfill. Getting a piece of Walnut to match would be difficult so it would be a contrasting darker Rosewood even Black Ebony. Maybe even change to a brass gauge and Quickfill just for a touch of bling. Given the fugures I think a regulator is in order but not essential, oh and a depinger....I hate pings and pongs aren't much better either!
Whoa , Dan I sense the Dark Side is strong and it exerts all it's powers to turn us into PCP shooters . Use the Force & resist , I know it's not easy , I too feel the Dark Side exert its influence , Resist & remember the Power of the Spring will always prevail , it may tire but is easily replaced at relatively little cost . Sorry Dan I got carried away there , but the PCPs are just getting so good these days and I understand the attraction & even fascination of the loyal gathering who are true believer , but the rifles just feel soulless . I'd probably enjoy them more if they were more of a challenge perhaps a deliberate recoil built in , maybe that's why I don't mind blow back action C02 pistols , where as I feel unfulfilled even when I shoot good groups with the HW40 ,as the challenge feels simplified . I must Be a masochist . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well .
@@jimstewart5008 Thanks Jim! It's true matey, I get every bit as excited (or disappointed) when I review or handle a rifle as I did when I first started. Springers in particular, we've got a little .25 Cometa to test next that I cannot wait for!
It's a sporteresque type rifle like the Cayden but the Benji is actually a cousin to the Pretensis but with a different stock. I really liked the Cayden but we never got to review one.
Hahaha hey Arthur! It's an awkward one as staring into a screen in silence is a bit... iffy. I'll see if I can find something less offensive next time haha.
I bought that rifle in caliber 22, I have had it for 1 year and I must say that it is spectacular, very precise and powerful. With jsb pellets 18.13grains it reaches 900fps. Greetings from La Serena, Chile.
Great video Dan.No need to apologise for the length of the review.I think i speak for best part of us,we realy enjoy your reviews.Keep em coming mate !!! :)
Thanks Group 13!
It's a balancing act as they can quite easily go over an hour haha. We should if we're lucky start filming our next review very very soon... it's another .25 so I've told everyone to hide the valuables as I do tend to get carried away.
Marksman pointed pellets are a real oddball. I know them as 'fairground' pellets. They were all I could afford in my long ago youth in my Relum Telly and to be fair it was all the local hardware store stocked. Shooters today don't have the slightest idea today of just how spoiled they are for pellet choice.
Tengo el mismo rifle hace 1 año y es espectacular, muy preciso y potente. Para cazar conejos y aves es una maravilla. Además de que es muy hermoso. Greetings from Chile.
Que tal cumpa... Consulta.. le haz hecho mantenimiento, desarmarlo ?? Yo aún no me atrevo y no sé cómo hacerlo. Saludos
For some reason the video quality isn't the usual 1080 but has gone down to 720p.. I've got no idea what's going on at TH-cam but originally it even tried uploading the video in 540p.. no thanks.
Next time if we can we'll try uploading in 4k and see if that works, so you'll get to see my ugly mug in ultra high definition.
Glad to see that you have a proper target holder, at last. Also dont use backround music when your acctualy shooting, i think most like to hear the gun and pellet hit the target dan.
@@chriscleeves1711 Hi Chris.
I can't do that I'm afraid matey as if we don't far forward the footage this would've been a 2 hour long video haha. If you don't mute the sound it sounds like some sort of demonic worship is going on in the background.
I'll see if I can find a middle ground for our next video.
The best place for a safety is anywhere that's not near the trigger (eg BSA clx's, Walther LGU) but if you must have it within the trigger guard, it is better IMHO to have a cross bolt like the Kuzey than a paddle which requires your finger moving towards the trigger in order to make the gun safe.
Forgot to say that safeties aside, an excellent detailed review as always, cheers.
Great review and a cracking piece of kit. Nearly 100 shots in .177 and 14 shots in a mag. You really cant complain. After a little fettle it should shine.
Hi Roy!
It's pretty much spot on isn't it? Shot count wise she's about the same as an S410 so no complaints there and with a barrel clean and some leading in it'll only be even better! As you've said tons of potential.
Excellent Review again mate, thanks for sharing it with us
You're welcome thanks Michael!
I like the Matt fishing Finish versus that glossy shiny reflective Coatings people put on air guns
Hey Derrick!
It's a case of each to their own of course but in the flesh this did appeal to my inner tart.
I totally agree with the fill probe. 8mm is pretty much the standard here in the USA. Not to mention it is so deep inside the stock🤷♂️💯. Definitely room to improve that system.
Hi Heath!
It drives me wild mate why on earth do they keep doing that? Just make it standard size and we're all happy. It's only a nitpick but it's an annoying one.
As usual an honest review, well done mate
Thanks Baz! They're a lovely rifle aren't they and it shoots damn straight too. The metalwork and finish is superb.
Saved me a fortune in pellet testing there Dan 😁 going to try QYS streamlined on Sunday with my other scope.
Gonna have to get some of those lead free to try, only tried ftt green and to be fair it was fairly windy when tried them but they were gash…..
Honestly I've not had the best results with FTT green.... but the JSB's are usually pretty damn good.
If you really want a laugh though get yourself a .25 and use JSB lead free... you'll never touch your .22 again. 😉
Dan , that was AWESOME .. great vid & content. . Kinda like that rifle , deffo gonna give them Norma pellets a bash , heard a few good things said on AGF fb pages ..
Hey Mark!
Thanks mate that means a lot. The Kuzey is a lovely rifle and shoots very well but the finish is out of this world for a £520 rifle. Give those Norma's a go Mark and let me know what you think.
@@bigdansairguns83
I'll get a tin next time I'm down the range .. and give em a try in a selection of rifles ..
Excellent review Dan what a lovely looking gun 👍🏻
Thanks Simon! It's a helluva lot of rifle for the money and that finish is superb. It shoots well too which always helps!
I think all these rifles from Turkey are made by Kral they all look the same this isn't a criticism as I own the Kral Jumbo in .22 and Kral Puncher maxi in.177 both guns are tack drivers when using JSB pellets and the finish on the guns for the price is awesome keep the reviews coming Dan there Excellent
AS always Dan, great honest down to earth review mate, Cheers 😁😁👌👌👍👍👍
Thanks Casper! How's that for a pretty rifle though!
@@bigdansairguns83 Yea it does look really well mate, very well 😁👌👌👍👍
I love the h+n sniper magnums. Or should i say, my r10 does. Cannot get hold of them in 22 for live nor money.
Hi Mike!
They're a damn good pellet to be fair matey despite my ribbing of them to begin with. I'll have a look around for you when I get a spare minute to see if I can source any for you and I'll send you a link.
Thanks Mike.
@@bigdansairguns83 id really appreciate that .
Cheers dan
Great review Dan, I have been waiting for you to review the K600. I went and bought one back in January without having any reviews to refer to as I don't speak Afrikans, Russian or Turkish! I really like my Kuzey K600, it is on a par with the Reximex Pretensis, they are very similar in looks, the Pretensis is lighter . I wish the Kuzey was regulated, I am hoping as they catch on that Lane or whomever sort out a reg. I shoot my Pretensis more as it has a higher fill pressure so more shots. The only gripe I have with the Kuzey is that every now and again you will get some resistance as you push the cocking lever forward and you can guarantee that it will be a flyer, I find in .22 the JSB Exact Diablo heavy 18 grain are best but the 16 grain work well as well, I found it a bit pellet fussy but my Pretensis isn't. It is a great rifle for the money, I really like my Turkish walnut stock traditional rifles
Hey Allan!
They're a lovely rifle aren't they? Just out of interest try a Reximex mag in that Kuzey and see how she groups. I find the Kuzey mags are a bit fiddly and I've spoken to RR who've said that Kuzey are looking into it.
@@bigdansairguns83 I like them both and it is hard to choose between them.Yes ,I noticed that the mags are interchangeable,I shall give that a whirl as you suggest.I just get the occasional pellet that won't feed properly and I can bet my house on it being a flyer.I am definitely in your Turkish gun lovers club lol
It's a lovely looking rifle.
It is rather fetching. Especially the metalwork.. that glossy finish puts many "premium" rifles to shame.
@@bigdansairguns83 incredible how fast they have advanced their quality to match the rest.
A very Good morning to you Sir 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Yeti it's good to see you buddy.
Enjoy your vidieos would love to see you do a reveiw on the Walther Terrus a break barrel springer .
Have to say again Dan, yet another superb review!
Informative and extremely well presented. And "Shotguns with a tighter group".... Brilliant! 🤣
Nice one! 😎👌
Hahaha thanks JPF! yeah those Marksmans didn't exactly behave in this rifle. I'm glad there weren't any planes going over as they'd have been at serious risk!
@@bigdansairguns83
Always great to see new videos Dan. Looking forward to the next one.
Hello Dan,
I was fitting a regulator to a friends Kral Empire X last week and the fact that Kral seem to be the only one to put oversized fill ports on their rifles really is irritating. I decided to buy a new one and fitted it in my pillar drill, like a drill bit. I then switched the drill on and using a metal file took it down to fit our standard fitting fill whips. It is a good work around. I didn't use his original fill port because it wasn't my gun to test it with, but for about £8 for the new one it certainly is easy enough job to bring it down to the standard fitting that we are all used to. The Kuzey brand look quite nice rifles. You should see if you can get their unusual underlever version to test next. I have the Reximex Regime. I have just fit a regulator to that and for me I think the Reximex Brand is a more upmarket Kral. I will have to contact Range Right to see if I can review some of their air-guns, although not being an RFD, I am not sure if that would be possible. I have considered applying for a media RFD license like And from AAR, which would help a lot.
Love your videos. They are always good to watch. I can understand it must be hard to find the time to film, having a business to run. At least I am retired now, and do it as a hobby around looking after the Grand Daughters.
Best Wishes
Mark Holding
(Airgun Sniper Elite)
Nice one Dan
Some interesting stuff coming out of Turkey as you say, lets just hope the make a single shot pcp soon for target shooters
Keep up the good work big man :)
Haha hey Chris!
Genuinely mate I think if they keep going the way they are the Turks will be a serious force to be reckoned with very soon. Even now we've seen the groups that the Kral's/Reximex's and now the Kuzeys can get and this is even without a barrel clean. The Kuzey is another big step forward as the build on the metalwork is genuinely gorgeous and the stock takes some beating too.
Cheers mate and look after yourself!
Wooowwwww....nice airgun my friend, simple design with classic stock.... awasome 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
Nice tractor and rifles not bad too good review.
Hahaha hey Kev! I do like that 7840, next time you're down I'll see if we can get Unk to start it up she absolutely crackles.
Hi Dan great video has usual but did you mention the price.think I may of missed it.
Hey bud! We charge £520 for the K600.
Hiya bud iv got a few questions on this rifle what fill pressure did you fill upto cos iv just been just been reading some spec's about it and they say 210 shots on a 300 bar fill which I thought was quite high and the weight 3.75kg which I thought a tad hefty and is there anyone you know of in the UK that is willing to do tuning work on the Turkish stable of rifles cos there's afew that are taking my eye now and are you going to do a review of the K300 I'd be really interested in a review on that, anyway keep up the great work pal your reviews are always really good
Hi Alex!
210 shots per fill is a bit extreme as is 300bar, our UK spec rifles have a max fill off memory of 200bar. For the K600 around 80 full power shots per fill is to be expected.
For Turkish airgun tuning contact us at bigdansairguns.co.uk and we can get you sorted no problem at all.
A K300 review sounds interesting I'll definitely make sure to get one done for you Alex.
Thanks Alex!
Great vid mate as usual..😊
You might know, but have Cometa stopped sending their mini-bullpup to the UK? Or have they stopped making it? Do you know anything?
Hey Clangerbasher!
I don't think they're imported any more I'm afraid matey. A shame as they're an interesting little rifle but I think they're focusing more on the larger rifles.
@@bigdansairguns83 Oh well. I will just have to buy a HW100 BP carbine if the time comes. I learning to ride a motorbike. So I am looking for a small bullpup. I will worry about it later. Shame I liked their styling.
Thanks for replying.
Single shot tray?
Hi Phillip!
No SS tray sadly.
Yep, I bought a .22 Kuzey 900K but sadly it also seems to suffer from that really annoying 'in your ear' clang when the hammer strikes the air release valve which also is to the annoyance those seated close to you who also hear it. This clang only appears to be prevalent to rifles based on Turkish actions. Do all of the different manufacturers all use the same action but only slightly differ the looks and add different names? It appears so. Can they not reduce this somehow because it is making me think twice as hard before I buy any more Turkish air rifles.
An interesting review that might be a repost to the knocker’s of Turkish air weapons.
Hi Stephen!
The Turkish rifles in general these days are usually superb. What I love is that they'd always listen to feedback and they improve rifles as they go until they're cracking things. This is why I emphasized the trigger and the filling probe as hopefully someone will listen.
The build on these new rifles is amazing. The metalwork is genuinely 10/10 and you could sit it beside any AAA rifle and not only would it match them at range but also beat some of them in build quality.
I bought a pretensis last week and love ot, just wonder why you didn't use spitfires with this kuzey considering the great results with the pretensis?
Hey dan can you compare the reximex daustar and accura
Thank you for an excellent review. You kept mentioning what great value the gun is but you didn't actually tell us the price. How much are they?
Best air rifle at this price
How do I change the magazine ?
Yet another new brand, any US distributors yet?
Quite honestly that hole with the probe and gauge offends me. If I were to buy one then the first thing I would do is extend both Quickfill and gauge to an inset level with the bottom of the stock using a standard Quickfill. Getting a piece of Walnut to match would be difficult so it would be a contrasting darker Rosewood even Black Ebony. Maybe even change to a brass gauge and Quickfill just for a touch of bling. Given the fugures I think a regulator is in order but not essential, oh and a depinger....I hate pings and pongs aren't much better either!
I’m only here for the case
Hahaha hey Matt! Well we do sell them matey for £520 and it comes with a free rifle. 😉
Top review
Lovely gun , but don’t go much for the name Kuzey ? What’s that all about , cheers big Dan for the review shane uk 🇬🇧
Whoa , Dan I sense the Dark Side is strong and it exerts all it's powers to turn us into PCP shooters . Use the Force & resist , I know it's not easy , I too feel the Dark Side exert its influence , Resist & remember the Power of the Spring will always prevail , it may tire but is easily replaced at relatively little cost . Sorry Dan I got carried away there , but the PCPs are just getting so good these days and I understand the attraction & even fascination of the loyal gathering who are true believer , but the rifles just feel soulless . I'd probably enjoy them more if they were more of a challenge perhaps a deliberate recoil built in , maybe that's why I don't mind blow back action C02 pistols , where as I feel unfulfilled even when I shoot good groups with the HW40 ,as the challenge feels simplified . I must Be a masochist . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well .
“Cough” one stage trigger
Nice rifle sir ps subscribed to your channel don't tell my german friends have a good week......
Winnie!
Thanks for the subscription it means a lot!
Awesome
Thanks Jim that was fast!!
@@bigdansairguns83 I really look forward to your videos, I can tell your a guy who really is an air gunner first
@@jimstewart5008 Thanks Jim! It's true matey, I get every bit as excited (or disappointed) when I review or handle a rifle as I did when I first started. Springers in particular, we've got a little .25 Cometa to test next that I cannot wait for!
Kral with a different name
Made in the same giant factory but to my knowledge it's actually more or less its own design. The block, cylinder, stock and barrel are all different.
Looks like a Benjamin Caden
It's a sporteresque type rifle like the Cayden but the Benji is actually a cousin to the Pretensis but with a different stock. I really liked the Cayden but we never got to review one.
Certainly a looker....
Reliability is always big issue with Turkish airguns.
Reviews top…..incidental music 🤮
Hahaha hey Arthur!
It's an awkward one as staring into a screen in silence is a bit... iffy. I'll see if I can find something less offensive next time haha.
@@bigdansairguns83personally I prefer silence but this music is way better than the lift music I usually hear on You Tube
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what the hell is the purpose of all that blasting noise very distracting