Adding forearm Rotation to Piano Scales | How to practice scales pt.3

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    In this video I discuss how to practice scales with forearm rotation gesture. This is the 3rd video in this series on how to practice piano scales.
    Forearm rotation is a concept that many pianists overlook in their studies and i believe it is essential to building a virtuosic technique. I used to have a LOT of tension in my playing and struggled to play freely until i was taught by my current teacher to use rotation in my playing. Though rotation was not the only factor that helped me, it certainly was a HUGE help.
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  • @PIANO_LAB
    @PIANO_LAB  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What scale practice ideas/tips have been the most effective for you?
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    • @winsomewalstead2157
      @winsomewalstead2157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      These are great! My piano teachers had me practice scales but they never taught me HOW to practice scales. Thank you for the helpful info!

    • @DavidMiller-bp7et
      @DavidMiller-bp7et ปีที่แล้ว

      Using these tips I practice every scale in contrary motion in 3 octaves, then 5 octaves in parallel motion an 8va apart. The first 8va in quarter notes, 2nd in 8ths notes, etc. The fifth scale in 5 octaves is in quintuplets at the same tempo I started with. With your methods many of my scales are exceeding 300 bpm with good, sometimes excellent clarity, depending on the scale. I do the same with arpeggios off the root of the key I am working in.

  • @RandomShowerThoughts
    @RandomShowerThoughts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    might be one of the most important piano videos that I've ever watched

  • @belled2645
    @belled2645 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s very interesting the way you explained. Is it Alexander techniques?

  • @petrosps9650
    @petrosps9650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wonder why you don't have more views and subs, you definitely deserve it!

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you very much!

  • @crashrr2993
    @crashrr2993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Luv your no-nonsense style, straight to the point and no metaphors, too. Excellent!
    I'm 59, and four years into teaching myself to play. Reading practice is coming on, but scales hurt my fingers, so very interested in this Taubmanesque approach.

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I'm glad you found the video helpful, that makes me very happy.

  • @y2kfei170
    @y2kfei170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 3-part series on how to practice scales are super helpful and really helped me to clear up my confusion of whether to use full arm weight when playing scales. I've been searching for this topic and could not find clear answers. Thank you very much!

  • @user-us3hp2lz3o
    @user-us3hp2lz3o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic, thank you Craig. I like the slow motion practice, it already helping me a lot

  • @chrisbrendel5127
    @chrisbrendel5127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you so much for this, Craig! This was super useful and the best explanation I've seen (and the overhead camera really sets your videos apart from others on YT and makes your motions super clear!).

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Chris!!

  • @Nicole-kq3ui
    @Nicole-kq3ui ปีที่แล้ว

    This seriously helped me improved 😭😭!!! I’m starting to feel the difference between using forearm vs wrist, and forearm definitely feels a lot more smooth

  • @trimatch-king6103
    @trimatch-king6103 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent explanation! Thank you!

  • @petermcmurray2807
    @petermcmurray2807 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent presentation. Thank You

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @muertedisidente967
    @muertedisidente967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks for sharing!

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome!

  • @Jack-hy1zq
    @Jack-hy1zq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Great tips 👍

  • @stephen285
    @stephen285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid! best thumb vid on ytube - ive watched em all

  • @mollywalstead7113
    @mollywalstead7113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never thought of playing that way. That's really cool.

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful

  • @AliTajvidi
    @AliTajvidi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, thank you

  • @cardinal4363
    @cardinal4363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful! Thank you

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome!

  • @sherryaustin1381
    @sherryaustin1381 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful explanation!! Thanks!

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you and you're welcome!

  • @maximheijmerink1694
    @maximheijmerink1694 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff! Really helps, thank you!

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are very welcome, thanks for watching!

  • @jenixelle8298
    @jenixelle8298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks this was pretty useful!

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome! Glad it could help!

  • @joseph.r1122
    @joseph.r1122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you using the Taubman method?

  • @junamauko6611
    @junamauko6611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm from Indonesia. Thanks for tutorial very helpfull 🤗🙏🙏

  • @HoangNguyen-zv3xb
    @HoangNguyen-zv3xb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fantastic lesson man. Thank you so much! One thing I want to ask is inside the video you talked is the upward motion of rotating to the right, but haven't mentioned the downward motion of coming down from the scale. I have a lot of problems with that as my right wrist usually gets tense, so would you mind sharing your explanation to tackle my problem? Thanks a lot in advance

  • @primolantape9952
    @primolantape9952 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good tips...

  • @luigi95-
    @luigi95- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very welcome! Thanks for stopping by!

  • @Jack-hy1zq
    @Jack-hy1zq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please show right-hand downward scale technique. Thanks 😊

  • @sandys660
    @sandys660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is brilliant. Thanks. It's quite similar to cedar music academy on youtube

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very welcome! I'm so glad it was helpful!! Yes, Dr. Mortensen's teaching approach is very similar to how my teacher taught me. Thanks for the support!

  • @DavidMiller-bp7et
    @DavidMiller-bp7et ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reprising all C's earlier videos again. Didn't comment when I saw it about 4-5 months ago. I'm with the vast majority; the best lesson on rotation and thumb under. I've checked out every other one I could locate. I do agree that we could see a bit more of coming to the center, crossing over 3,4 but this was about thumb in rotation. I have a number years logged on piano but never knew how to execute this; led to the usual bad habits of wrist twisting, hand and finger stretching too much.
    Thumb can easily go under a little until it meets resistance, no farther without tension in that big muscle. I have seen some teach that 1 should not go under at all. I have watched them closely and defy them to claim they are not putting thumb under to some extent. No farther than getting close to base of 3, you can feel the resistance. Ok.
    I started doing C's suggestion, starting slowly and deliberately exaggerating as he modeled at first. It only took a couple weeks to incorporate these moves into muscle memory and now am moving much faster, smoother with less effort, working of a dozen scales in the keys of my pieces. EG does a good job on it, too. She goes slow and deliberate to isolate each movement. Craig does a little better exaggerating the huge thumb supination which one will seldom do in performance; this is for practice. I have experienced unparalleled progress following this and other movements.
    I have started using a higher wrist and hand position which gives thumb even more room to drift under and come down square on the thumb. Unavoidable 1 is a big issue in piano playing.
    Sometimes I wonder about the comments. Do they realize that the uneven scale segments are intentional to demonstrate the movement in very slow motion? Which is very helpful.

  • @Sitbon08
    @Sitbon08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m studying the Taubman approach by an accredited teacher and some concepts are slightly different. For example ensuring the finger lands straight down and not on an angle after a prepatory motion or a single or double rotation. Have you adapted aspects of the approach for your own purposes? I will give your suggestions a try. Great to see you covering this work and I hope to see more videos, esp on octaves!

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks for the comment! Great question. So these concepts are ones that I got from my teacher who is not familiar with the Taubman approach. Basically, she analyzed her own playing and discovered that she was using rotation. Now since studying with her for several years, I have taken a few lessons with golansky Institute faculty members and am very familiar with the Taubman approach. Like you mentioned, the Taubman concepts are ever so slightly different, but I think they're getting at the same general concepts. The concepts that my teacher taught me have definitely helped me a lot and taking lessons with Taubman instructors has helped me a lot too so I'm definitely interested in taking lessons with a Taubman teacher in the future. Not sure if I want to go the route of becoming a certified teacher quite yet though.

    • @hshlom
      @hshlom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This video was very good. When I see/hear the double rotation demonstrated, I just think no, that makes no sense.

  • @victoraughtiii8839
    @victoraughtiii8839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad I found you today. Is this the Taubman Method that you are teaching? Victor, San Jose CA

  • @lisaamusic
    @lisaamusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GREAT

  • @nicholaschang000
    @nicholaschang000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before watching your video, I read an article by Chuan Chang (not related) about using Thumb Over instead of Thumb Under. Any comments? But your method is much easy to execute, in my opinion.

  • @DrRaghavanRPanicker
    @DrRaghavanRPanicker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Namasthe,Nice.Thanking you.🙏

  • @coachn4971
    @coachn4971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could you please upload part 4 ? Thanks.

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes! You can expect it to be uploaded in the next few weeks👍

    • @Maurice-xk2zr
      @Maurice-xk2zr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PIANO_LAB hope you are doing fine. Is part 4 still coming? Thanks.

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am doing well, thanks for asking! I was intending on posting part 4, but I rearranged my list of videos that I wanted to make and it got pushed to the bottom. But I've had several people ask in the last week so I think that I will move it up in the schedule!

    • @ranjithsunny
      @ranjithsunny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PIANO_LAB Waiting for part 4 :)

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I actually filmed part 4 over the weekend and it should be released Tuesday morning👍

  • @shrikantdbhat
    @shrikantdbhat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Craig. I am 72 and have 6 months of piano playing to my credit but am still struggling with speed and smoothness of motion. Your video is very clear and logical. However, going up the scale is okay but what about reversing and coming down. Not too clear about that.

  • @bluesatmosphere4659
    @bluesatmosphere4659 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi , Are you going with your thumb under the middle or the ring finger?

  • @sauceboymills3991
    @sauceboymills3991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you cross under when descending?

  • @greatmusicchannel8549
    @greatmusicchannel8549 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, How could i see part 1 & 2 of this video?

  • @HMS20th
    @HMS20th ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it efficient to use wrist circles in scales ?

  • @user-fn2uf9yg2w
    @user-fn2uf9yg2w 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    do you know the book NATURAL FINGERING A TOPOGRAPHICAL APPROACH
    TO PIANISM
    Jon Verbalis
    If so, I would be interested to know what you think of his description of the movements of the scale.

  • @jafarshadiq9321
    @jafarshadiq9321 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The example you give for the forearm rotation is upwards on the scale, but how do I do it downward scale? Does it still using the same movement?

  • @mywealth42
    @mywealth42 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you descend usihg this technique

  • @Jack-hy1zq
    @Jack-hy1zq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to avoid stretching, please 👍

  • @eennav
    @eennav ปีที่แล้ว

    Will your teacher takes online piano class ? If yes , what's the fee ?

  • @vincentbuonora9416
    @vincentbuonora9416 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    excellent on how to avoid finger tension …….seems like your teacher was influenced by Dr. Taubman and Golandsky Institute in America.

  • @darrenclarke8655
    @darrenclarke8655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi have you done part 4?

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not yet! But I'll be working on it soon👍

    • @alexscott1257
      @alexscott1257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PIANO_LAB Very much looking forward to Part 4 of these! I find your videos so helpful! Thank you so much!

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very welcome! I'm so glad that you found the videos helpful!

  • @mindus5760
    @mindus5760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ 2:51 why dont you Play with your pinkey instead of the thumb ?

  • @tomas_soeterik
    @tomas_soeterik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My piano teacher always obliges me to lift my fingers up, because she says I must hit my fingers on the keys
    Is that wrong from her?

  • @maykilJuicewa
    @maykilJuicewa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to approach broken 3rd scales?

    • @PIANO_LAB
      @PIANO_LAB  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you mean double 3rd scale?

    • @maykilJuicewa
      @maykilJuicewa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PIANO_LAB yess but broken

  • @sghosh4223
    @sghosh4223 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    part 4 th-cam.com/video/WawD9kw4Pfs/w-d-xo.html

  • @user-hz5yb4bh5v
    @user-hz5yb4bh5v 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video presents the first time that I have heard your mispronunciation
    of the two syllable word, "forearm," by a person who's native language is English.
    You do use the proper, and understandable, pronunciation of the word, "forearm," sometimes.
    However, it quite often sounds as though you are saying the one syllable word, "form,"
    instead of the correct, understandable two-syllable, "fore-arm" sound.
    Otherwise thanks for good video lesson.

  • @BlackSaphire1987
    @BlackSaphire1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But with this techniquq u play so uneven. And ur thumb give such an "Accent" that ppl cab actually hear that Unevenness when u crossing