For someone so antisocial, he’s so incredibly astute about the most nuanced interpersonal socially interactive details. For a serial killer, he’s incredibly self-aware. He’s SO DANGEROUS.
He had time for introspection in prison. He's trying to understand himself in order to use that for his own advantage. That's a testament of how intelligent and well versed he is on human psyche.
Not really. He took advantage of that era, in which foolish young folks thought it was cool to hitch-hike with random male strangers. But with Kemper's difficulties approaching women in normal social situations, not to mention his extremely distinctive appearance and manner, he would have a rough time getting away with anything nowadays. Of course he is also now very old, fat, and confined to a wheelchair, so yeah, I'd say he's not dangerous at all anymore...unless his shaggy dog stories bore you to death.
@@jessequest8575 no he seems quite intelligent. The nice and the intelligent....... kinda freaks you out when you throw in the things he did. Its a wtf moment.
Most psychopaths are highly intelligent. Along with that comes the amazing ability to con people. Bundy, Holmes, Gacy, Jim Jones... etc. Guess to appear normal, you need to he able to con.
thats because hes intelligent. he knows how to manipulate people. he did as a teenager too, including persuading his juvenile detention psychiatrist that he was fine... i bet he/she feels pretty odd now, knowing that she vouched to get him out of the system.. only to be unleashing a murderer to do more murdering..
My HS English teacher had a photo in his class of himself and two guys. He had decided to hitch hike from SoCal to San Francisco and got a ride from these two guys: one was Tex Watson and the other was Charles Manson. He had a photo with both of them
It´s amazing how he manages to make you believe between the lines he is the victim. He seems so empathetic towards his "poor mother". This guy he is so sick and twisted.
Every time I see expressions of forbearance, sympathy, and admiration for killers, I think of how conveniently people are charmed when they're not being tortured and murdered by them
@@whoswondering7911 it's not about him being a murderer.. if you can't recognize his unique traits without puckering up I think you're pretty narrowminded.. Sure he's a piece of shit murderer, but he's also really smart with an odd way of thinking.. try and separate the two
Its all facade, peoples intuitions are wrong about him because he doesnt hesitate when he lies, and people think its the truth, youre all prey and if you fell for his stories, then youre all potential victims.
Im 61 yo. I NEVER hitched. NEVER was out at night trying to get somewhere on foot either. Why? Because I knew it was men out there just like this KRAZEE SOB. PERIOD.
I'm a 5'9 dude, a solid 200 when I'm in decent shape with a background in combat sports. Kemper would ragdoll me just as easy as he would you. He's terrifying to anyone, man or woman.
He is infinitely fascinating. I don’t condone what he did, but it is almost impossible to stop listening to him once he gets some momentum. One of the most intelligent and self aware offenders ever. You can see the duality of what his vs what he could have been with a different upbringing and circumstances.
He exudes charm & bullshit. Seems to like reliving his time trolling. Great vocabulary, and the anger seethes just below the surface of normalcy. Why and for what purpose does society maintain these creatures at tax payer expense? Typical to blame his mother, the beaurocrats on his nature. He likes what he does but he needs an excuse
@@Earthdogbonzo3 well we are much more likely to catch these kinda people in the future if they are studied. While they most definitely deserve the death and worse, killing them is a fools game
Something tells me he’s a crier though, like if he’s truly upset and screaming at someone he cries like that girl in the meme. Not sure what gives me this feeling. Giving commands though? In an authoritative voice? Horrifying.
I disagree, his mannerisms are pretty different, Ed talks less monoton than the actor, He also uses his hands to Underline what He is saying He was good at creating a Character, but not good at portraying Kemper
The 70’s was a bizarre time. I was around 15 years old and my sister introduced me to this guy; I looked up to him and he was towering. His height was brought up as a positive. My sisters and I worked at Jerry’s restaurant and Denny’s restaurant on Ocean street in Santa Cruz. Him and guys like him would hang out in these places drinking coffee and socializing deep into the night. He wanted to take my sister out on a date but she passed and said something along the lines of “I just get a weird feeling about him -I don’t know…”. Believe it or not he was nice, likable. The strange irony is the he would hang out with the man she eventually married and they’d drink together at The Jury Room (bar across from city courthouse). Back then the way men treated and viewed woman was very different. I heard a quote from him saying he just wanted to “take a girl to dinner and a movie and have a normal date”. He was so odd, offbeat, awkward -probably what today we would deem as social anxiety. It was like he was always trying to be this thing, instead of just simply being.
When you say this guy...Do you mean THIS guy,Edmund Kemper? But sadly "trying to be this thing instead of simply being."( Very well put) is not just a weirdo or anxiety thing,its very much a guy thing.
Im sitting here wondering why im so transfixed by this guy and I find the thing thats most appealing about the way he speaks is that there isnt a single stutter or pause in his speach. He breezes from one point to the next without thought. Scary
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Well, psychology is random information derived from the interviews of psychopaths. So basically sit around and watch all these interviews of psychopaths and you can claim to be a psychologist too. It really is that simple... and you can get paid for it. lol.
He is so incredibly intelligent,self aware,notices tiny details about his surroundings that I have never seen anyone like this before,he is extremely smart and all of this makes him extremely dangerous and cunning at the same time I can totally see,how he got all those women into his car,he comes off like a soft spoken,well mannered person,but inside he is the demon. It’s very scary and fascinating at the same time I wish there were new interviews with him
Think I read somewhere he's not in the best of health, diabetic might be close to death as writing this (summer 2023) , plus, you don't want to glamorize these people too much. Probably a fair amount of clinical interviews that aren't going to be publicized and I agree with it. As interesting as he is, he should be a interesting warning, not an implicit glorified celebrity. A sane society would have executed him long ago to be honest.
@@crazypantz3492why do they keep serial killers alive? I mean, all the jails are full. I could understand if scientists were attempting to study their brain for future prevention
Say what you want about him but at least it seems like he isn’t trying to get out and knows he belongs where he deserves. Bundy was making excuses right til the end, trying to weasel out.
Edmund Kemper, I think the biggest attraction to him is how we can identify our own battles within us between causing harm and mayhem or cause healing and good. The big difference is where we cheat, or drink, or eat something we shouldn't we rationalise the same way. Most people battle some sort of darkness within them that they are very much aware of. The only real mystery here is how did it get that far with him?
Imagine this 6’9” 285lbs going full on no chill murder mode at you. You’re fucked… literally! Or if him and his mom weren’t arguing and fighting that day you’re good and just get the well mannered dorky gentle giant. That’s a hell of a coin toss!
My HS English teacher had a photo in his class of himself and two guys. He had decided to hitch hike from SoCal to San Francisco and got a ride from these two guys: one was Tex Watson and the other was Charles Manson. Had had a photo with both of them
What a smart dude, sad... read in peace to all the victims, including him and hug your kids tonight, if you still have the ability make sure you raise them right... much love to anyone who reads this
He did, and the funny thing is, he wasn't being sarcastic at all. I think the remark's been made more than once but the guy I am thinking of is Douglas or Ressler, the FBI profilers.
He basically studied his own mind, and thoughts, why he did all the crimes. He is truly intelligent. He is a real mind hunter. Apart from all the crimes that he did, with that intelligence that he has, he would be a good contribution to society, when i watched mind hunter he basically opened the gates of behavioral science unit.
except he still was lying to himself because he still wasn't taking responsibility and admitting that he really did make the decisions to do those things. It even says so on mindhunter. It had nothing to do with him being raised in a matriarchal family and more like everything to do with him trying to be patriarchal and entitled, feeling so entitled that he could take out his own rage for not having a girlfriend on women around him, and enough to blame his own mom for what he did.
Nicholas Whitfield he killed his paternal grandparents at 15, was sent to an institution and faked his way through. His mother was his last victim, the one he worked his way up to. The co-eds he killed were because of his mother, he thought she valued them over him. He even buried a sever head facing up looking towards his mothers bedroom window in there backyard.
@@justinjenkins2946 Whats even more crazy are the FBI stats 700,000 to 800,000 (not a typo) ARE reported missing EVERY yr in America and these are just the ones reported. There ARE at least 2,000 serial killers roaming America at any given time. My point is NEVER trust anyone !!
If only his mother had nurtured and cared for him in a more loving way, he would have made an exceptional writer or psychologist. He seems to be quite insightful and thoughtful. I'm not making excuses for him but it's sad that he ended up killing innocent women because of the way he was brought up. It's heartbreaking to think of how the families of those women must have suffered.
@@staceystabheart125 I'm sorry you feel that way but in no way, shape or form was I trying to elicit sympathy for him. What he did was horrendous, I was only pointing out how his life could have taken a different course.
@@staceystabheart125 Why so dense? Please work on your reading comprehension. Regardless of what he may have done, it all stemmed from his toxic childhood. Showing sympathy for how the man was raised and how it snowballed into him acting out is HUMAN. You can equally share sympathy for him as a child while showing sympathy for the lives he took later in life. If he was only raised by his father or a good mother/father relationship, we probably wouldn't be watching this today....
What an intelligent, articulate man. It's a shame he took such an abominable path in life. This should be a wake up call to all the mothers out there raising children that they really should not have had. It's not an excuse for murder, but it makes you wonder how many more serial killers there are out there living a dysfunctional lifestyle just waiting to cross that line.
Exactly. Women need to heal themselves before bearing children . ESPECIALLY raising boys to be MEN and taking their fathers from them !! Same goes vice versa with Daughters and their fathers. If you read his story , his father left his mother bc she was abusive. Z
A call to all the mothers? Maybe you should look into the number of serial killers with alcoholic or abusive fathers. Or maybe just acknowledge that everyone has freedom of choice, and the majority of people choose to not hurt others the way they have been hurt.
@@tstarr8314 Yes, you are absolutely right, however, I was making reference to this particular case where this man claimed that his mother clearly abused him and this man hated her for it. There are children living in horrid conditions with two abusive parents and many of those children make different choices in life and do not grow up to be serial killers but this man did. And you are right about the freedom of choice that one has. Fortunately most people no matter what type of abusive households they live in do not grow up to be serial killers. There may be a genetic component to this as well. Either way it is terrifying to think that there are more of these people out there lurking about.
She was crazy for poking at her son, who already killed his Grandmother and grandfather. Not saying it was her fault. But Id be careful around someone with a History like that.
@Clive Bixby I totally agree. His mother tormented him all throughout his childhood. What is REALLY sad is that, at one time, he had the capacity to be a good person. Such a waste.
@The Senate I agree with you. Human beings do "decide" the path they want to go, and choosing the "right" path is definitely harder. I am very sorry for your terrible background. It's a horrible to not be valued as a child. The damage goes so deep. It's just that with Ed Kemper, and the fact that he knows and accepts what he is, maybe he could be granted some leeway. Mainly because he seeks to stay incarcerated, knowing (and fearing) the monster inside himself. Wish I had all the answers, but I definitely don't.
Insane how insightful he is on human behavior, even down to his own self reflection. I can see how he was able to disarm women into thinking he was not a threat, he used his intellect to kill.
Kemper is a fascinating person to listen to. He goes above and beyond to give you insight into what a serial murderer thinks about. I do have to say I believe he "acts" a lot. He gets some serious gratification off of being interviewed. Being the center of attention. Having people pay attention to him and what he has to say. I can see why the BAU spent a lot of time speaking with him. If you can sift through his BS and his grandiose ideas of how good of a killer he was and how much smarter he was than everyone else, you can learn a lot about the mindset of an organized killer.
He' a narcissist. Narcissists love attention, to feel important. That's why he gave himself up in the end. It wasn't really so that in his own words he wouldn't murder and butcher more innocent women. He knew he was on the verge of being caught and a big part of him would have been excited to be able to tell anyone who will listen all of the grizzly details, and to be the centre of attention.
This is awesome. I find Ed Kemper extremely fascinating because of his high intellect and how normal he actually is. He’s not a raving lunatic, he’s just an ordinary man who did unspeakable acts.
With an IQ of 145 his intellect is beyond average. I think he has psychopathic tendencies. I find him extremely interesting too. I really believe if he was treated via a psychiatrist and taken away from his mother, maybe he would have had a chance. Who knows...
Some people who knew Kemper have said this person he presents as (calm, reasonable, rational) is only part of the picture. It's probably pretty obvious this would not be his demeanour when committing his crimes.
The channel Oxygen is airing a new special called "Kemper on Kemper" which debuts tomorrow. Unfortunately, many of my friends overseas don't have access to it. The trailers they've show footage from at least one previously unreleased video interview/confession.
I swear, almost every time you hear the stories of serial killers, their behavior can be traced back to parental abuse. It's absolutely insane that just about anyone can choose to get kids, no matter how damaged, deranged or dysfunctional they are.
@@theflightlessbutdankkiwi3820 a good home with parents always at each others throats, mum depressed and on drugs, dad hardly around, abandoned as a teenager for weeks on end......that's not a stable home, that's not a good childhood at all.
I worked at CMF for 20+ years and saw Kemper every day. He seemed pretty docile to me, and I believe he was thought of as a model prisoner. When I'd walk in in the morning, Kemper would be standing there (a giant guy, BTW) with a small cart with newspapers that he would presumably distribute throughout the institution. He usually walked the mainline alone, but would occasionally speak to a correctional officer along the way. I never heard anything about what the other inmates thought of him.
There has been a broad range of reports from fellow inmates, most notably Jamie Morgan Kane who argue that Kemper was very hostile and manipulative to other prisoners in jail, essentially psychopathic. To be honest though, I'm not sure. If he is, he is incredibly good at projecting his superficial charm to others.
Well, he trained Henry Mullin to shut his mouth. And he only has had one infraction in his nearly 50 year stay: he couldn't produce a urine sample (after his stroke). If he'd been an ass to the other prisoners or fought, he'd have been written up multiple times.
Do you have any idea what the long-term side effects of all the MEDS he's been taking all of these *decades* do to the human body? I used to have a good friend ( _he's dead now, committed suicide a few years ago_ ); he was suffering w/ BiPolar disorder which developed into acute Schizophrenia. He was just 20 at the time, and I cannot even begin to describe how gorgeous this guy was - forget Brad Pitt or Leo DiCaprio - they rated a 4 in comparison to him. Even _heterosexual_ men stared at him walking down the street. Yea, he truly WAS THAT gorgeous. He could have been a Star. After having been *institutionalized* for 10 years - and being fed all of those damn drugs, he looked as if he was 65 years old! He had gained weight, his hair had gone grey, and his face was unrecognizable. Anyone who knew him - couldnt recognize him anymore. When he was finally _released_ to an "out-patient" facility, he was like a fish out of water. The insane-asylum had become his "home" and he couldnt function in the _real world_ . He had a very tragic life from the day he was born - and things just never got better for him. He ended up leaping to his death from the same out-patient building his was briefly residing in. He was only 31, and looked like 70 when he died, from all the damn meds.
@@LeenaStark That's really sad. I'm sorry about your friend. My aunt was schizophrenic and her story was similar, though she did survive. But the meds are really harsh, as is life in an asylum surrounded by, well, crazy people. (And often abusive staff.) I know that Ed has taken antipsychotics for many years--Haldol type medications, very hard on the body. I wouldn't be surprised if he elected to take chemical castration meds too. He wanted a literal lobotomy (which the authorities denied him) so I don't think he would've hesitated to quell his psychotic and sadistic urges any way he could. He really wanted to be at peace and at least semi-normal and able to function on a daily basis, work, etc., maybe even have friendships and so on.
That's BC he keeps saying this over and over again in his head... Listen how one minute it's his mom next minute he was practicing how to get the person in the car... He planed it be4 he got mad... Evil is the answer .... He just can't accept why he did this
@@AB-gz9yb i dont know, i hope so 👍 I not long watched mind hunters again for the second time. Was good! Hope they do more series based on famous killers.
He looks SOOOOOOOOOOOO different than the 1984 videos or whatever it was. He actually looked good then. He almost seems to know good from bad. I still think he's a fascinating guy to listen to. Dangerous, very very dangerous, but fascinating nonetheless. Every time I hear him I have to remember all those innocent women he killed. They have to come first before the fascination, because this dude has charisma. How messed up.
Wow, all i can think is, do the two NorCal girls he drove into town know how close they came to being killed by an infamous serial killer? That literally blows my mind that they still might not even know how close to death they came.
It's frightfully fascinating to listen to him thinking that he seems like a regular guy then you remember what all he did...That's how they "operate" , they draw you in .
rhoads' girl I would like to see how long I can talk to him before he wants to kill me!!Yea that be a fascinating intellectual and mind blowing thesis to conclude!!!
I like to think iv gotten desensitised over the years but this guy made me shudder how upfront and normal he speaks, his intelligence is captivating his awareness is scary very very scary
Look how enthralling and eloquent he is (Yes, this man is actually still alive). That he could go from speaking like this to decapitating someone and putting her voice box down a trash compactor is utterly horrifying (his own mother).
It's amazing the elaborate stories he creates in his mind about everything he observes. It's like there's two realities, what is and what he thinks it is. The unfortunate thing is, he was so completely locked into his own interpretations of reality he would never consider the possibility that there was another. Everyone does this to some extent but he's in love with this idea that his version of reality is the de facto. He's very odd in this way. He's so plaintive while so separated from himself. It almost gives me chills how he talks endlessly with this pretense of being earnest and authentic. It's like one part of his brain talking about some other remote part of his brain, while lacking the middle that connects the two together. That brow indentation over both his eyebrows is a giveaway that this man has deep sublimated emotions. It's like hurt, disbelief and anger all at the same time. It really shows towards the end when he's talking about his mother. I saw that same thing on a dog once that turned on its owner and tore his face. It looked like confusion between hurt and anger. That's what his expression reminds me of. He strikes me as having a little bit of "See what you made me go and do?!". Everything is cause and effect with no responsibility. Hence that missing mid brain. Just talk and act normal and then ocassionally lash out in a fit of uncontrolled rage.
with no responsibility?? The man has taken responsibility countless amount of times. He even says time and time again when talking about her how its not to blame her, but merely highlighting how all of this obviously had an impact on him.
Let's not forget, Kemper expected to be caught after murdering his mother and her friend, then turned himself in several days later. At trial, he requested the death sentence, though that wasn't an option under California Law at the time. And then every time he has been up for parole, he has stated he is not fit to return to society, and never should. As an individual with psychopathic, he does not feel remorse for his victims, yet he is self aware enough to know what he did is wrong. I would argue he has taken responsibility for what he did, even if the way he talks seems abnormal to a majority of people.
@@stuartspencer2161 At his most recent parole hearing, he finally requested to be released and was denied. Because of his health, the prison would no longer allow him to work. Kemper needs constant stimulation. When they took his work away, he wanted to leave. He's actually just now really facing consequences. He has no stimulation and was denied parole. He's going to be miserable until death.
12:22 This is exactly correct. When Kemper was released from the mental hospital, the Docs specifically said he should NOT be put back with him mother.
Well it's obvious. Children's brains absorb every little thing, it's like a sponge. When you're treated like shit as a kid, treated violently it can be learn unknowingly. That and making it impossible for a child to have an emotional connection is a recipe for disaster. If you can't even connect to your own mother then an emotional connection is impossible to get. Especially if you already have problems with emotional connections.
The scariest thing about him is that he seems so self aware of his feelings and abhorrent behaviour, and yet chose to do this . With his intelligence he could have been whoever he wanted , and yet he chose to be a killer .
It wasn’t exactly that easy. When he was released from Atascadero, the professionals told the system not to send him back to his mother, but they did anyway. He had some menial jobs but was injured in a motorcycle accident and could no longer work labor at the time. He had really wanted to become a police officer, but he was too tall, and would have been rejected even without having a violent history. When things started to boil over, and his fights with his mom put the stress back on him, he tried to contact his parole officer, because they hadn’t been keeping in touch with him. His parole officer dismissed him and told him they had people with REAL problems to deal with. I’m in no way making excuses for his behavior. But I am painting a picture of a highly intelligent man who was shut down and dismissed every time he tried to do something to establish healthy structure and communication in his free life. Those were additional factors in his failed rehabilitation back into society, and unfortunately, he allowed himself to not only embrace his violent tendencies, but to fine-tune them because he did not know how to establish a healthy outlet for his anger.
@@RSousa-ru7xi ya I remember hearing a story of him talking to a female psychologist and after 10 mins he just randomly stood up and started breading and screaming at her, so crazy
@@RSousa-ru7xi He is known to be very polite with women as well, going back to his interview with a woman reporter before he had attempted to kill himself after his incarceration...which he had attempted using a pen that she had given him. Additionally, there are "rules" about not allowing female staff to be alone with him at California Medical Facility, although that is just a precaution, as he has never acted out toward women since he turned himself in, and that's including the time he was on the elevator alone with a female nurse who had no idea who he was when she got on the elevator with him.
Watch the video of Barbarosa about him , it's about MGTOW channel , but mgtow aside he made a good video detailing Eds thinking; in relation to his broken family , specially to his mother.
I don't like him at all. He had more advantages than many but chose to exploit them. Maybe he could've just dated women if he had a better personality. Hes disgusting.
It's all a combination, with "nature" being the primary factor that nurture acts on. You fail to realize that he got the genes of his controlling and abusive mother, not just the bad experiences due to her. The same intelligence he got from his mother he also got the same inability to control his baser traits.
Thank you for posting this. Fascinating. I used to live just down the street from him and mother's house in Aptos. Moved there probably about 7 years after he killed her.
Wooow! I've been following serial killers for more than 20 years now... and know quite a lot about them (from practically each possible point of view). And this part of Ed's story, about changing his mind and not killing the potential victims... is something that made me thing, just HOW MANY people (mainly women) are out there, who'd been in a contact with a well known serial killer, but just because they "took pity" on them, or simply weren't in that state of mind (much more likely), when "the entity" was there, or craving for victims (the way Ted Bundy calls that urge), is simply fascinating! I don't know if you guys know this, but, for example, Ed isn't the only one who had moments like this! Ted Bundy openly talked about it as well - it's just that people are often not interested in hearing THAT, but just wanna listen about the murders (especially in Bundy's case - because there's so many unsolved crimes, and even totally unknown victims). However, he have said THIS EXACT SAME THING Ed just describes here! Ed says he couldn't do it, something wasn't there, whilst Ted describes how, many nights, he'd approach a girl, implementing his well known modus operandi (pretending to be hurt, with the crutches, or his arm in a cast, whichever one he'd chose for that particular time), and she takes the bait, but "something inside him" told him "No! You don't wanna do it to this girl, there's no need for it", or as he describes it, the "entity" wasn't "asking" for victims that nights, and he'd just wash off the idea, thank the girl for the help (sometimes even continue and go on a normal date with her, and even later on engage into a voluntary sex), and after that, each one of them, walk their separate ways, afterwards! Now... I wonder, is there someone aware of that, someone who'd actually been in one of those situations??! 'Cause that thing simply fascinates me!
I can vouch for the experiencing of one's being-- once upon a time-- as a battleground between good and evil, where there'd be an ebbing and flowing between which side was most dominant. Opposite the "entity" is one's guardian angel half, and I relate a few experiences in my book (which never bottoms out at murder) when my guardian angel was weakened-- down but not out-- with just enough power to help steer me away from doing something awful.
I'm no expert but I believe it's more simple than you think. These guy's are looking at these girls like non-human objects. But once and while you come across one that you like or can relate too like a sister or something. Even most of these guys have relationships with certain people that murdering them would never even cross their mind.
@@yourneighbor2567thank u for simplifying it. I was gonna go crazy thinking why they left some alive. What you said makes sense and is relatable. Even names of our parents and sisters and cousins are still dear to us and can be a reminder and act as a hinderance in thinking ill of someone with those names.
Probably two main reasons this happens. 1) Letting some potential victims go gives them a kick in itself, because it makes them feel powerful and godlike. The all-powerful decider of who lives and dies. And they tell themselves they are so powerful, they can make this decision on a whim, toss of a coin. 2) The prospective victim is not quite a match for their preferred ‘type’ in some way, maybe doesn’t exhibit a specific behavioural trait or have a specific physical trait that is a trigger for them. Or has a trait that is off-putting or distracting in some way from their preference. I don’t believe killers like Bundy or Kemper ever allowed a potential victim to walk away for any other reason than they felt they could find a bigger thrill in a different victim.
He didn't though. He picked up hundreds of hitchhikers and dropped them off at their requested destinations before he decided to act on his fantasies, or "little zapples" as he called them. He was trying to learn how to talk to people, women especially, and that was how he got more comfortable doing so. He DID have friends, even a female friend he mentioned once or twice, and later even had a girlfriend, to whom he became engaged. She asked to remain unidentified after his acts were brought to light. He said he never even considered killing her, but he also wasn't ready to get physical with her either.
@@5588sunshine naw I'm really nice to everyone. I give hundreds to homeless people and I've fostered and rescued over 30 dogs in the past 10 yrs...... he would have liked me. I've got the small town humble hospitality.
Agreed in general, but do you know that he was actually diagnosed as psychopathic? Not all serial killers are psychopaths. Looking at wikipedia (which I take with a grain of sault), they never stated he was diagnosed as such.
@Sadie Smiles Actually I think it was another way around. I have listened his other tapes too, and seems to me that his mother was also quite a monster. And she was there first giving exsample to her son. ; ) Obviously we have only his, and their acquaintances words about that. But, there´s always some reason why these people do what they do. If you go far enough in their history, you will find something disturbing from early age. Obviously not all with same kind of history, become serial killers, so something weird is happening in their minds.
@Sadie Smiles You had some other ideas? Ok, joke! ; ) I think your comment is very much too simplifying. We humans are mentally very complicated mammals.
I lived in the same hospital this interview is taped. I was there for 4 years. From 2017 to 2021. Atascadero. Temporary schizophrenia from meth caused to me act violent from severe fear and rage. Glad im out, off drugs, no more psychosis.
That's awesome. I've seen people who've done it so long that the delusions become real to them even as sober. Watch the Ted talk by Johann Hari, about addiction. It's very informative and will give you insight on yourself and others.
The haunting part of this whole interview is how level headed and down to earth this guy actually is...until that switch is flipped and he becomes the monster for only a short while. Then he immediately blended back in. You just never know.
@@pagalmasala Many years ago, I was with someone who had a genius IQ, an eidetic memory, was charming and seemingly harmless. The truth was he was a vicious, sexually sadistic psychopath. Couldn't stop telling me all the things he had done. Was locked up in a psych hospital at the age of 9 (1965) for skinning neighborhood pets alive. Caught bc he had to watch the horror and pain of their owners so he would put them on the doorstep, ring the doorbell and run hide to watch their reaction. Caught him bc he started laughing. He knew I was too afraid of him to tell anyone. It was the early 80's and your average person had never heard of someone like him. Scary mofo!
When he talks about how he was so distanced he couldn't believe he had really done that, it reminds me of my own life. Was a sniper in the ARMY for years, and none of that feels real to me anymore. When I talk to former ARMY friends and they reinforce that i really did those things, it's comforting to know I'm not just insane, but yeah. I relate to this a lot.
It's unusual how these guys lead such contrasting double lives. He speaks as though he's an otherwise honest and straight up guy but clearly he couldn't have been
a truly intimidating individual. I'm truly glad her turned himself in. He was both incretibly strong and intelligent and equally disturbed and sick of mind. Its unfortunate and dark that he went such a path.
In all the interviews I've seen with him, I've never heard one person ask him why he didn't simply move out of the house he lived in with his mother. I mean.... come on, Ed! Grown man.. and you couldn't just leave? Can't blame mommy forever.
@@lindaiio24 He also stated in this interview that he was paroled to his mother, after being released from the psychiatric prison for his gran parents murder. Not sure how long that period of parole was, but could be a reason he was still there.
My boss is one. Seems harmless for the most part, and even charming at times, but once in a while you'll catch a fleeting and subtle glimpse as to what's really going on under the surface.
He would've made a terrible Uber driver.
2 stars
Because he had a coupe?
Why? He liked giving people a ride.😂
1 Star lul
Way too chatty for sure
Damn, the actor who portrayed him in Mindhunter did an amazing job. They look, sound, act exactly alike.
exactly what i thought :D
Mind Hunter was phenomenal, really that guy deserves an award. I can't wait for season 2!
Cameron Britton studied him extensively, including verbatim on some speech on the show
The Dude I had to double take ... I thought it was him !! Amazing acting job indeed!!
Think about how tall Kemper really is. Cameron Britton himself is 6'5, He needed 4 inch lifts in his shoes to match Kempers height
For someone so antisocial, he’s so incredibly astute about the most nuanced interpersonal socially interactive details. For a serial killer, he’s incredibly self-aware. He’s SO DANGEROUS.
He had time for introspection in prison. He's trying to understand himself in order to use that for his own advantage. That's a testament of how intelligent and well versed he is on human psyche.
Not really. He took advantage of that era, in which foolish young folks thought it was cool to hitch-hike with random male strangers. But with Kemper's difficulties approaching women in normal social situations, not to mention his extremely distinctive appearance and manner, he would have a rough time getting away with anything nowadays. Of course he is also now very old, fat, and confined to a wheelchair, so yeah, I'd say he's not dangerous at all anymore...unless his shaggy dog stories bore you to death.
@@denverdubois5835 You are underestimating him, just like most people did.
@@denverdubois5835 If you don’t see how intelligent he is, you can’t recognize intelligence when you see it.
Yes he's great
Seems like a nice guy aside from all the murdering thing.
Lmao
Doesn’t seem stupid either
@@jessequest8575 no he seems quite intelligent. The nice and the intelligent....... kinda freaks you out when you throw in the things he did. Its a wtf moment.
Most psychopaths are highly intelligent. Along with that comes the amazing ability to con people. Bundy, Holmes, Gacy, Jim Jones... etc. Guess to appear normal, you need to he able to con.
thats because hes intelligent. he knows how to manipulate people. he did as a teenager too, including persuading his juvenile detention psychiatrist that he was fine... i bet he/she feels pretty odd now, knowing that she vouched to get him out of the system.. only to be unleashing a murderer to do more murdering..
Imagine seeing this and realizing you were one of the girls he let go.
plot twist they died from alcohol poisoning that night...
That was a jaw dropping stop.
8126 54512 are you serious?
My HS English teacher had a photo in his class of himself and two guys. He had decided to hitch hike from SoCal to San Francisco and got a ride from these two guys: one was Tex Watson and the other was Charles Manson. He had a photo with both of them
@@rileyandmike - Excellence!
The scariest thing about him is, he knows exactly what you want to hear and see.
It´s amazing how he manages to make you believe between the lines he is the victim. He seems so empathetic towards his "poor mother". This guy he is so sick and twisted.
People in general do the very same thing. You never really know anyone. You only know what they want you to know. That includes your spouse
@@ic9310you have no clue what mental damage your mother can cause. I was raised by a horrible mother. Fortunately I can control my dark thoughts
@@ic9310I think he actually does feel bad for her which is much worse
Imagine saying yeah I like killing women cause they don't talk back. Not normal he has to say other stuff or be know as perv, weak incel
Every time I see expressions of forbearance, sympathy, and admiration for killers, I think of how conveniently people are charmed when they're not being tortured and murdered by them
Shut up dumbass
@@whoswondering7911 it's not about him being a murderer.. if you can't recognize his unique traits without puckering up I think you're pretty narrowminded.. Sure he's a piece of shit murderer, but he's also really smart with an odd way of thinking.. try and separate the two
I'm pretty sure you'd hate everyone's guts if the worst thing they ever did was always at the forefront of your mind, and that is no way to live.
I know . Those poor girls .. how frightened they must have been ., if it was one of my daughters I wouldn't want to live...
Its all facade, peoples intuitions are wrong about him because he doesnt hesitate when he lies, and people think its the truth, youre all prey and if you fell for his stories, then youre all potential victims.
Kemper is enjoying every second of talking about himself and the things he has done. He is happily controlling the interview.
See you sit a life sentence out then not enjoy anything that breaks monotomy 🤣
@@ll2240 how true. otherwise he would have written his memoirs by now. Thus he isn`t proud of what he did.
Untrue. Please watch the interview with the iceman, Richard Kuklinski, to compare.
Very big assumption.
When you’re IQ is 130+ or 140+ whatever it is, that comes very easily especially if he’s been practicing it for a while
This guy is 6' 9' i couldnt imagine being a young, small woman in his presence when he decided it was go time.
Defenceless, like being in front of a bear
Im 61 yo.
I NEVER hitched. NEVER was out at night trying to get somewhere on foot either.
Why?
Because I knew it was men out there just like this KRAZEE SOB.
PERIOD.
This would be a terrifying scenario
I'm a 5'9 dude, a solid 200 when I'm in decent shape with a background in combat sports. Kemper would ragdoll me just as easy as he would you. He's terrifying to anyone, man or woman.
He is infinitely fascinating. I don’t condone what he did, but it is almost impossible to stop listening to him once he gets some momentum. One of the most intelligent and self aware offenders ever. You can see the duality of what his vs what he could have been with a different upbringing and circumstances.
Larry Williams I agree with you 100%! He’s fascinating to listen to!
@@matt_neil_music He comes off as harmless and soft spoken which gains peoples trust. He has his B.S. down pretty good.
He exudes charm & bullshit. Seems to like reliving his time trolling. Great vocabulary, and the anger seethes just below the surface of normalcy. Why and for what purpose does society maintain these creatures at tax payer expense? Typical to blame his mother, the beaurocrats on his nature. He likes what he does but he needs an excuse
100%
@@Earthdogbonzo3 well we are much more likely to catch these kinda people in the future if they are studied. While they most definitely deserve the death and worse, killing them is a fools game
Ed kemper is huge and has a powerful voice now imagine him shouting at you can you imagine how sacred these young girls were.
Something tells me he’s a crier though, like if he’s truly upset and screaming at someone he cries like that girl in the meme. Not sure what gives me this feeling.
Giving commands though? In an authoritative voice? Horrifying.
These days weird freak girls would be turned on by it..... they like bad boys and being mistreated now.
He didn’t shout at them though he didn’t even hit them he just strangled or shot them .
@@jshaka3769 He..."JUST strangled or shot them." I mean,you're not wrong...but it sounds pretty fucked up.
Try scared.
The guy who portrayed him in Mindhunter was incredible. Like, his look and his voice are dead on. Bring back Mindhunter for season 3
I disagree, his mannerisms are pretty different, Ed talks less monoton than the actor, He also uses his hands to Underline what He is saying
He was good at creating a Character, but not good at portraying Kemper
Albert Kekstein I think it was done intentionally to make the scenes more tense, which makes sense
Albert Kekstein watch different interviews, it’s almost identical. It just depends on the conversation or who he’s talking too.
@@MrWillsonx what ah stupid comment ye donkey
Mind hunter has officially been cancelled. No season 3.
The 70’s was a bizarre time. I was around 15 years old and my sister introduced me to this guy; I looked up to him and he was towering. His height was brought up as a positive. My sisters and I worked at Jerry’s restaurant and Denny’s restaurant on Ocean street in Santa Cruz. Him and guys like him would hang out in these places drinking coffee and socializing deep into the night. He wanted to take my sister out on a date but she passed and said something along the lines of “I just get a weird feeling about him -I don’t know…”. Believe it or not he was nice, likable. The strange irony is the he would hang out with the man she eventually married and they’d drink together at The Jury Room (bar across from city courthouse). Back then the way men treated and viewed woman was very different. I heard a quote from him saying he just wanted to “take a girl to dinner and a movie and have a normal date”. He was so odd, offbeat, awkward -probably what today we would deem as social anxiety. It was like he was always trying to be this thing, instead of just simply being.
Because of how he was raised .
He really wanted to be normal
Thanks for the post.
When you say this guy...Do you mean THIS guy,Edmund Kemper? But sadly "trying to be this thing instead of simply being."( Very well put) is not just a weirdo or anxiety thing,its very much a guy thing.
He's said that he's dated and he did have a fiancee at the time he turned himself in.
It’s all so damn interesting I could listen to him talk all day.
Im sitting here wondering why im so transfixed by this guy and I find the thing thats most appealing about the way he speaks is that there isnt a single stutter or pause in his speach. He breezes from one point to the next without thought. Scary
Wasn't his IQ high in the 1st place
@@DrJetset and that s so scary
@@mariamariafujoshiinurarea2524 this guy had a 145 iq. This is not even 1% of the population. Thats crazy
@@frankyboy1810 combined with his big physic... it s just so damn scary
And these are the most dangerous in society.
Hey this guy seems kinda friendly and trustworthy
*disappears indefinitely*
There's a lot of psychologists in the comment section, how neat.
Lol!
and a lot of disgusting men too
Iron Mountain it’s okay,do you need to talk? I’m listening go ahead....First sentence is $2.99 and $1.99 for each additional sentence that we communicate..My rates are expensive because I’m just that good...I only accept visa or MasterCard.....so write......
Well, psychology is random information derived from the interviews of psychopaths. So basically sit around and watch all these interviews of psychopaths and you can claim to be a psychologist too. It really is that simple... and you can get paid for it. lol.
Iron Mountain yes, because they got into the profession ‘cause they’re a bit effed in the head as well
He is so incredibly intelligent,self aware,notices tiny details about his surroundings that I have never seen anyone like this before,he is extremely smart and all of this makes him extremely dangerous and cunning at the same time
I can totally see,how he got all those women into his car,he comes off like a soft spoken,well mannered person,but inside he is the demon.
It’s very scary and fascinating at the same time
I wish there were new interviews with him
Think I read somewhere he's not in the best of health, diabetic might be close to death as writing this (summer 2023) , plus, you don't want to glamorize these people too much. Probably a fair amount of clinical interviews that aren't going to be publicized and I agree with it.
As interesting as he is, he should be a interesting warning, not an implicit glorified celebrity. A sane society would have executed him long ago to be honest.
@@crazypantz3492why do they keep serial killers alive?
I mean, all the jails are full.
I could understand if scientists were attempting to study their brain for future prevention
Yeah he has an IQ of a 145 130 is considered a genius
I believe that Kemper's intelligence is what allowed him to stop.
You're right. He did turn himself in.
I repeated over and over to my daughters “ if it feels weird, it is weird, RUN!
Michael Long honey if they are “FEELING” weird little late to run ya think??I get the hell away minute they look weird!!
Theres a sixth sense, or a gut feeling, a split second warning, a feeling of dread....whatever you call it, never ignore it.
What are you doing to your daughters?
Your daughters shouldn't meet strangers
It's pointless because literally anyone even family members could be potential serial killer
Always follow your gut instinct!!! If it feels off...there's a reason!!!!
I would tell him to comb his hair, but afraid he might reach through the screen and strangle me.
Say what you want about him but at least it seems like he isn’t trying to get out and knows he belongs where he deserves. Bundy was making excuses right til the end, trying to weasel out.
@P T X FUCKING D
Bullshit!!! Bundy showed plenty of remorse
@@JuneCarpenter35 that's not true at all
@@TheGamingVillas And how would you know
@P T What drugs are you on? You have a vivid imagination.
Edmund Kemper, I think the biggest attraction to him is how we can identify our own battles within us between causing harm and mayhem or cause healing and good. The big difference is where we cheat, or drink, or eat something we shouldn't we rationalise the same way. Most people battle some sort of darkness within them that they are very much aware of. The only real mystery here is how did it get that far with him?
Imagine this 6’9” 285lbs going full on no chill murder mode at you. You’re fucked… literally! Or if him and his mom weren’t arguing and fighting that day you’re good and just get the well mannered dorky gentle giant. That’s a hell of a coin toss!
Unless you fight dirty!
The FBI should just consult TH-cam’s comments section. This is where all the REAL experts are.
well. the fbi are generally incompetent. that is for sure.
@@malamute4793 I still remember Jeffrey Epstein case handled by the fucking FBI. Yeah, they are incompetent.
Well, sometimes when you put a lot of people's general wisdom together it can become almost expert. Sometimes it can become a dumb mob.
Katherine Chapman I’ll let you decide which happens more often.
@@Joe-ud1de - Was that a case of incompetence?!
"never underestimate the duality of man"
This guy gets it.
Yes
Beware the Doomster.
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DOOM!? But i thought you were deeeeead
Those 2 girls he drove into town watching this interview saying, hey wait a second
He killed them
Vince Melson no he didn’t!
My HS English teacher had a photo in his class of himself and two guys. He had decided to hitch hike from SoCal to San Francisco and got a ride from these two guys: one was Tex Watson and the other was Charles Manson. Had had a photo with both of them
@@rileyandmike did anything happened? like strange or out of the ordinary?
Marker3000 nope. They drove up, took a couple photos together and parted ways in SF
What a smart dude, sad... read in peace to all the victims, including him and hug your kids tonight, if you still have the ability make sure you raise them right... much love to anyone who reads this
He’s still alive
I think one investigator called Kemper "The nicest serial killer you will ever meet."
“A very likable man. One of the guys” a cop he hung out with.
He did, and the funny thing is, he wasn't being sarcastic at all. I think the remark's been made more than once but the guy I am thinking of is Douglas or Ressler, the FBI profilers.
He basically studied his own mind, and thoughts, why he did all the crimes. He is truly intelligent. He is a real mind hunter. Apart from all the crimes that he did, with that intelligence that he has, he would be a good contribution to society, when i watched mind hunter he basically opened the gates of behavioral science unit.
Great comment 👍
except he still was lying to himself because he still wasn't taking responsibility and admitting that he really did make the decisions to do those things. It even says so on mindhunter. It had nothing to do with him being raised in a matriarchal family and more like everything to do with him trying to be patriarchal and entitled, feeling so entitled that he could take out his own rage for not having a girlfriend on women around him, and enough to blame his own mom for what he did.
Glad to see he is your hero. You're one of those weirdo girls who try to marry these losers.... you're sick and need help or to be locked Away.
Why do people always say hes intelligent i just dont see it, hes just a normal guy
@@dabtican4953 because he is. It's a fact, not an opinion. His iq is WAY higher than yours obviously.
6’9 almost 300lbs, genius iq. He turned himself in, if he hadn’t I doubt he would have ever been caught.
6 foot 9 this guy should of been a wrestler but instead he was a serial killer
Justin Jenkins he ended up killing his mom. He would have been caught after that
Nicholas Whitfield he killed his paternal grandparents at 15, was sent to an institution and faked his way through. His mother was his last victim, the one he worked his way up to. The co-eds he killed were because of his mother, he thought she valued them over him. He even buried a sever head facing up looking towards his mothers bedroom window in there backyard.
@@justinjenkins2946 Whats even more crazy are the FBI stats 700,000 to 800,000 (not a typo) ARE reported missing EVERY yr in America and these are just the ones reported. There ARE at least 2,000 serial killers roaming America at any given time. My point is NEVER trust anyone !!
Had a i.q of 138 I believe.
If only his mother had nurtured and cared for him in a more loving way, he would have made an exceptional writer or psychologist. He seems to be quite insightful and thoughtful. I'm not making excuses for him but it's sad that he ended up killing innocent women because of the way he was brought up. It's heartbreaking to think of how the families of those women must have suffered.
Your comment makes it sound like it’s sad for him that he killed women, it’s sad for the women who were brutally murdered not this creep.
@@staceystabheart125 I'm sorry you feel that way but in no way, shape or form was I trying to elicit sympathy for him. What he did was horrendous, I was only pointing out how his life could have taken a different course.
@@staceystabheart125 Why so dense? Please work on your reading comprehension. Regardless of what he may have done, it all stemmed from his toxic childhood. Showing sympathy for how the man was raised and how it snowballed into him acting out is HUMAN. You can equally share sympathy for him as a child while showing sympathy for the lives he took later in life. If he was only raised by his father or a good mother/father relationship, we probably wouldn't be watching this today....
@@takekonakama4318 Her problem here is reading comprehension as well as emotions over logic 🤡
He killed his mothers parents...
What an intelligent, articulate man. It's a shame he took such an abominable path in life. This should be a wake up call to all the mothers out there raising children that they really should not have had. It's not an excuse for murder, but it makes you wonder how many more serial killers there are out there living a dysfunctional lifestyle just waiting to cross that line.
Exactly. Women need to heal themselves before bearing children . ESPECIALLY raising boys to be MEN and taking their fathers from them !! Same goes vice versa with Daughters and their fathers. If you read his story , his father left his mother bc she was abusive. Z
If he hasnt done what he made, nobody would have ever noticed him, no matter if he seemed intelligent and polite
Kemper's IQ 145
A call to all the mothers? Maybe you should look into the number of serial killers with alcoholic or abusive fathers. Or maybe just acknowledge that everyone has freedom of choice, and the majority of people choose to not hurt others the way they have been hurt.
@@tstarr8314 Yes, you are absolutely right, however, I was making reference to this particular case where this man claimed that his mother clearly abused him and this man hated her for it. There are children living in horrid conditions with two abusive parents and many of those children make different choices in life and do not grow up to be serial killers but this man did. And you are right about the freedom of choice that one has. Fortunately most people no matter what type of abusive households they live in do not grow up to be serial killers. There may be a genetic component to this as well. Either way it is terrifying to think that there are more of these people out there lurking about.
She was crazy for poking at her son, who already killed his Grandmother and grandfather. Not saying it was her fault. But Id be careful around someone with a History like that.
I would have paid for him to go live in Europe.
@Clive Bixby I totally agree. His mother tormented him all throughout his childhood. What is REALLY sad is that, at one time, he had the capacity to be a good person. Such a waste.
@The Senate You're smart. Hope you are happy.
@The Senate I agree with you. Human beings do "decide" the path they want to go, and choosing the "right" path is definitely harder. I am very sorry for your terrible background. It's a horrible to not be valued as a child. The damage goes so deep. It's just that with Ed Kemper, and the fact that he knows and accepts what he is, maybe he could be granted some leeway. Mainly because he seeks to stay incarcerated, knowing (and fearing) the monster inside himself. Wish I had all the answers, but I definitely don't.
It WAS her fault. She made him feel like he was a monster because he was too tall and she hated him because he looked like his dad, her ex husband.
I edited this comment so that the replies make no sense.
He's manipulative
Thats rough
😂😂
Seems like he switched to ice cream in prison
He's no different than most of us. He just takes it out on everyone. Where we go see a shrink.
Insane how insightful he is on human behavior, even down to his own self reflection. I can see how he was able to disarm women into thinking he was not a threat, he used his intellect to kill.
Kemper is a fascinating person to listen to. He goes above and beyond to give you insight into what a serial murderer thinks about.
I do have to say I believe he "acts" a lot. He gets some serious gratification off of being interviewed. Being the center of attention. Having people pay attention to him and what he has to say.
I can see why the BAU spent a lot of time speaking with him. If you can sift through his BS and his grandiose ideas of how good of a killer he was and how much smarter he was than everyone else, you can learn a lot about the mindset of an organized killer.
He seems eccentric but not consciously. Killers tend to have that trait I notice
He' a narcissist. Narcissists love attention, to feel important. That's why he gave himself up in the end. It wasn't really so that in his own words he wouldn't murder and butcher more innocent women. He knew he was on the verge of being caught and a big part of him would have been excited to be able to tell anyone who will listen all of the grizzly details, and to be the centre of attention.
Edmund Kemper had a terrible temper.
Killed a few.... should be a good indicator no?
@@sgtstoner6749 haha reply of the week!
The only ones who really knew if he did or not are long dead
How do u ken yi bam?
@@CME1994 I wanna see his answer to that 🤣🤣
This is awesome. I find Ed Kemper extremely fascinating because of his high intellect and how normal he actually is. He’s not a raving lunatic, he’s just an ordinary man who did unspeakable acts.
Acts of a lunatic....doh
You know he killed his Grandparents at 15, right?!?
With an IQ of 145 his intellect is beyond average. I think he has psychopathic tendencies. I find him extremely interesting too. I really believe if he was treated via a psychiatrist and taken away from his mother, maybe he would have had a chance. Who knows...
Some people who knew Kemper have said this person he presents as (calm, reasonable, rational) is only part of the picture. It's probably pretty obvious this would not be his demeanour when committing his crimes.
He's anything but ordinary. But I wouldn't call him a monster, he's very human.
Nice upload. A lot of footage has surfaced since Mindhunter was released, good stuff.
I agree! And I'm happy to help in any way I can. I'm really looking forward to the Oxygen special Kemper On Kemper that premieres on Oct 20th!
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The channel Oxygen is airing a new special called "Kemper on Kemper" which debuts tomorrow. Unfortunately, many of my friends overseas don't have access to it. The trailers they've show footage from at least one previously unreleased video interview/confession.
@Seven Black Swans Artisan Jewelry It has already been uploaded by someone else, see here th-cam.com/video/hGuz2xW1LWk/w-d-xo.html
Landau thanks!
I swear, almost every time you hear the stories of serial killers, their behavior can be traced back to parental abuse. It's absolutely insane that just about anyone can choose to get kids, no matter how damaged, deranged or dysfunctional they are.
Jeffery Dahmer had a good home
To be fair sometimes these people like to create or exaggerate sob stories to get sympathy
It's the will of God
@@theflightlessbutdankkiwi3820 a good home with parents always at each others throats, mum depressed and on drugs, dad hardly around, abandoned as a teenager for weeks on end......that's not a stable home, that's not a good childhood at all.
@@theflightlessbutdankkiwi3820 yeah no
I worked at CMF for 20+ years and saw Kemper every day. He seemed pretty docile to me, and I believe he was thought of as a model prisoner. When I'd walk in in the morning, Kemper would be standing there (a giant guy, BTW) with a small cart with newspapers that he would presumably distribute throughout the institution. He usually walked the mainline alone, but would occasionally speak to a correctional officer along the way. I never heard anything about what the other inmates thought of him.
There has been a broad range of reports from fellow inmates, most notably Jamie Morgan Kane who argue that Kemper was very hostile and manipulative to other prisoners in jail, essentially psychopathic. To be honest though, I'm not sure. If he is, he is incredibly good at projecting his superficial charm to others.
Well, he trained Henry Mullin to shut his mouth. And he only has had one infraction in his nearly 50 year stay: he couldn't produce a urine sample (after his stroke). If he'd been an ass to the other prisoners or fought, he'd have been written up multiple times.
Watch his 1984 interview, he looks like he’s aged 30 years in 7.
Look at him now in the 2010's, he aged 30 years in 20
Do you have any idea what the long-term side effects of all the MEDS he's been taking all of these *decades* do to the human body?
I used to have a good friend ( _he's dead now, committed suicide a few years ago_ ); he was suffering w/ BiPolar disorder which developed into acute Schizophrenia. He was just 20 at the time, and I cannot even begin to describe how gorgeous this guy was - forget Brad Pitt or Leo DiCaprio - they rated a 4 in comparison to him. Even _heterosexual_ men stared at him walking down the street.
Yea, he truly WAS THAT gorgeous. He could have been a Star.
After having been *institutionalized* for 10 years - and being fed all of those damn drugs, he looked as if he was 65 years old! He had gained weight, his hair had gone grey, and his face was unrecognizable. Anyone who knew him - couldnt recognize him anymore.
When he was finally _released_ to an "out-patient" facility, he was like a fish out of water.
The insane-asylum had become his "home" and he couldnt function in the _real world_ .
He had a very tragic life from the day he was born - and things just never got better for him.
He ended up leaping to his death from the same out-patient building his was briefly residing in.
He was only 31, and looked like 70 when he died, from all the damn meds.
@@LeenaStark th-cam.com/channels/-VY81cp3P3vWVxT5o-MTxA.html
@@LeenaStark That's really sad. I'm sorry about your friend. My aunt was schizophrenic and her story was similar, though she did survive. But the meds are really harsh, as is life in an asylum surrounded by, well, crazy people. (And often abusive staff.) I know that Ed has taken antipsychotics for many years--Haldol type medications, very hard on the body. I wouldn't be surprised if he elected to take chemical castration meds too. He wanted a literal lobotomy (which the authorities denied him) so I don't think he would've hesitated to quell his psychotic and sadistic urges any way he could. He really wanted to be at peace and at least semi-normal and able to function on a daily basis, work, etc., maybe even have friendships and so on.
That's BC he keeps saying this over and over again in his head... Listen how one minute it's his mom next minute he was practicing how to get the person in the car... He planed it be4 he got mad... Evil is the answer .... He just can't accept why he did this
Eds like a mental Ned Flanders 😂
Andy Bernard hahaha
Howdy neighbour
Cant wait for season 2 anyone know if they have announced the date yet?
@@AB-gz9yb i dont know, i hope so 👍 I not long watched mind hunters again for the second time. Was good! Hope they do more series based on famous killers.
Nedly deadly
Thanks for sharing really interesting it's sad for all involved 😔
He looks SOOOOOOOOOOOO different than the 1984 videos or whatever it was. He actually looked good then. He almost seems to know good from bad. I still think he's a fascinating guy to listen to. Dangerous, very very dangerous, but fascinating nonetheless. Every time I hear him I have to remember all those innocent women he killed. They have to come first before the fascination, because this dude has charisma. How messed up.
he looked good"? Pls bitch
@@thesaw239 Well, nobody asked what you thought now, did they? Salty ass bitch boy
Wow, all i can think is, do the two NorCal girls he drove into town know how close they came to being killed by an infamous serial killer? That literally blows my mind that they still might not even know how close to death they came.
Scary how calmly he's recalling all the events.
how is that scary?? ,,, lol
@@310BPM because he makes those events sound like "oh yeah, I went to grab some eggs that day"
It’s because he’s enjoying it. He loved conversation and especially something like that he was passionate about
@@mrginn it's scary how simple you are.
no, it's not. He did those things many years before, and had a lot of time to think about it. The time for visceral reaction on his part came n went.
It's frightfully fascinating to listen to him thinking that he seems like a regular guy then you remember what all he did...That's how they "operate" , they draw you in .
People are complicated. I think uncertain ways this dude was pretty alright and it wasn’t just a ruse. A lot of them were like Jeckyl and Hyde.
Charming and likeable.
rhoads' girl I would like to see how long I can talk to him before he wants to kill me!!Yea that be a fascinating intellectual and mind blowing thesis to conclude!!!
@Angela Netherton you do realize he didn’t kill 99% of the women he interacted with?
rhoads' girl
Really likes to hear himself talk
Thinks he is really smart, waste of space
Too bad he wasn’t executed, can’t stand his voice
I like to think iv gotten desensitised over the years but this guy made me shudder how upfront and normal he speaks, his intelligence is captivating his awareness is scary very very scary
Yo you would think that stories like this would prevent people from hitchhiking entirely.
You think. Prostitute's haven't stopped either.
Look how enthralling and eloquent he is (Yes, this man is actually still alive). That he could go from speaking like this to decapitating someone and putting her voice box down a trash compactor is utterly horrifying (his own mother).
She was a nasty biatch ,he said so.
It's amazing the elaborate stories he creates in his mind about everything he observes. It's like there's two realities, what is and what he thinks it is. The unfortunate thing is, he was so completely locked into his own interpretations of reality he would never consider the possibility that there was another. Everyone does this to some extent but he's in love with this idea that his version of reality is the de facto. He's very odd in this way. He's so plaintive while so separated from himself. It almost gives me chills how he talks endlessly with this pretense of being earnest and authentic. It's like one part of his brain talking about some other remote part of his brain, while lacking the middle that connects the two together.
That brow indentation over both his eyebrows is a giveaway that this man has deep sublimated emotions. It's like hurt, disbelief and anger all at the same time. It really shows towards the end when he's talking about his mother. I saw that same thing on a dog once that turned on its owner and tore his face. It looked like confusion between hurt and anger. That's what his expression reminds me of. He strikes me as having a little bit of "See what you made me go and do?!". Everything is cause and effect with no responsibility. Hence that missing mid brain. Just talk and act normal and then ocassionally lash out in a fit of uncontrolled rage.
with no responsibility?? The man has taken responsibility countless amount of times. He even says time and time again when talking about her how its not to blame her, but merely highlighting how all of this obviously had an impact on him.
Let's not forget, Kemper expected to be caught after murdering his mother and her friend, then turned himself in several days later. At trial, he requested the death sentence, though that wasn't an option under California Law at the time. And then every time he has been up for parole, he has stated he is not fit to return to society, and never should. As an individual with psychopathic, he does not feel remorse for his victims, yet he is self aware enough to know what he did is wrong. I would argue he has taken responsibility for what he did, even if the way he talks seems abnormal to a majority of people.
He has taken responsibility...as much as he can. Your observations are off.
Ignorant opinion. You strike me as the step dad type. Don’t play that roll. Your part of the reason killers like this exist .
@@stuartspencer2161 At his most recent parole hearing, he finally requested to be released and was denied. Because of his health, the prison would no longer allow him to work. Kemper needs constant stimulation. When they took his work away, he wanted to leave. He's actually just now really facing consequences. He has no stimulation and was denied parole. He's going to be miserable until death.
I feel horrible, but he’s entertaining..(no disrespect towards his victims) he should have written a book..
Such a disturbed soul but at the same time extremely intellectual for how young he was
It can be clearly seen that he is proud of his accomplishments, thus why his storytelling is great. I do believe he has megalomania as well.
Well for sure he hated his mother to the core. She fucked his head up bad which is the core of his anger and murdering.
Wende Cellucci that’s what he says which may be a crock of shit, maybe she was a bitch but he probably exploits everyone’s trust in what he says
All I can imagin in this video is how refreshing that old school water fountain must be...
Anyone else looking at his hands waving around and thinking ..Jesus, the things those hands have done
90s Jaded: Please don’t take the Lord’s name in vain.
Kelly Webster not my lord
@@kellywebster573 lol delusional clownass.
The actor that played him in Mind Hunter does a good job
steve O it’s actually uncanny
12:22 This is exactly correct. When Kemper was released from the mental hospital, the Docs specifically said he should NOT be put back with him mother.
This guy always is so interesting to listen to. Very socially aware and normal seeming.
I agree with you about his social awareness.
his eyes tell a lot about what he's been through. it's hard to watch when you pay attention to them.
He's like the most sane insane guy ever.
So many of these psychopath men have mega issues with their mothers or wives.
Same for psycho women
VERY TRUE!!!! SHYT WEIRD LOL...
More evidence that bitches fuck with your head.
Well it's obvious. Children's brains absorb every little thing, it's like a sponge. When you're treated like shit as a kid, treated violently it can be learn unknowingly.
That and making it impossible for a child to have an emotional connection is a recipe for disaster. If you can't even connect to your own mother then an emotional connection is impossible to get. Especially if you already have problems with emotional connections.
Thats actually not true
These interviews and interviews like this, actually can save lives. Sooooo, important.
The scariest thing about him is that he seems so self aware of his feelings and abhorrent behaviour, and yet chose to do this . With his intelligence he could have been whoever he wanted , and yet he chose to be a killer .
It wasn’t exactly that easy. When he was released from Atascadero, the professionals told the system not to send him back to his mother, but they did anyway. He had some menial jobs but was injured in a motorcycle accident and could no longer work labor at the time. He had really wanted to become a police officer, but he was too tall, and would have been rejected even without having a violent history. When things started to boil over, and his fights with his mom put the stress back on him, he tried to contact his parole officer, because they hadn’t been keeping in touch with him. His parole officer dismissed him and told him they had people with REAL problems to deal with. I’m in no way making excuses for his behavior. But I am painting a picture of a highly intelligent man who was shut down and dismissed every time he tried to do something to establish healthy structure and communication in his free life. Those were additional factors in his failed rehabilitation back into society, and unfortunately, he allowed himself to not only embrace his violent tendencies, but to fine-tune them because he did not know how to establish a healthy outlet for his anger.
He is being all nice because he is talking to a man, his trouble was with women
@@RSousa-ru7xi ya I remember hearing a story of him talking to a female psychologist and after 10 mins he just randomly stood up and started breading and screaming at her, so crazy
@@RSousa-ru7xi He is known to be very polite with women as well, going back to his interview with a woman reporter before he had attempted to kill himself after his incarceration...which he had attempted using a pen that she had given him.
Additionally, there are "rules" about not allowing female staff to be alone with him at California Medical Facility, although that is just a precaution, as he has never acted out toward women since he turned himself in, and that's including the time he was on the elevator alone with a female nurse who had no idea who he was when she got on the elevator with him.
the scariest thing about all this is you thinking he chose this
He has a great speaking voice. I wish I could get his audiobooks.
They're online. Flowers in the attic.
@@pinkpugginz only a few seconds of it
I can't help but feel for him. This is nurture over nature 100% and he had every right to be incredible, but was never given the affection to do it.
Watch the video of Barbarosa about him , it's about MGTOW channel , but mgtow aside he made a good video detailing Eds thinking; in relation to his broken family , specially to his mother.
I don't like him at all. He had more advantages than many but chose to exploit them. Maybe he could've just dated women if he had a better personality. Hes disgusting.
Nah it's nature. Killing his grandparents when he was a kid is not normal.
It's all a combination, with "nature" being the primary factor that nurture acts on.
You fail to realize that he got the genes of his controlling and abusive mother, not just the bad experiences due to her. The same intelligence he got from his mother he also got the same inability to control his baser traits.
I completely agree with you.
HE is what nightmares are made of in every aspect. Too bad we couldn’t see Kemper and Bundy Gladiator style. Betting would be heavy on Kemper!
My guy seriously just said “I’m not saying I’m right or wrong, I’m saying I look back on it and ... I was killing her.” 😂😂
I can't believe how intelligent and introspective he was. A true psychopath. Dr. Lecter would have had fun with this one.
Kempur was....well, the man.....
Kemper would have fun with Lecter....
Diaper Rash there is great danger in me for those who do not understand this shall make a great miss and fall down to the pit with the dogs of reason
withi
Except lecter isn't a real person.
1:51 When he says " I could not kill them and that scared me" It's a sudden glimpse into his twisted, gnarly mind.
"What do you do when you get mad?"
" I usually take a drive and crank up some music.."
"And you?"
"I kill people..."
*........*
Thank you for posting this. Fascinating. I used to live just down the street from him and mother's house in Aptos. Moved there probably about 7 years after he killed her.
Whoa. That's scary!
Honestly the guy was too smart .... but makes you wonder how many people out there roam freely on the verge of being a serial killer smh
Wooow! I've been following serial killers for more than 20 years now... and know quite a lot about them (from practically each possible point of view). And this part of Ed's story, about changing his mind and not killing the potential victims... is something that made me thing, just HOW MANY people (mainly women) are out there, who'd been in a contact with a well known serial killer, but just because they "took pity" on them, or simply weren't in that state of mind (much more likely), when "the entity" was there, or craving for victims (the way Ted Bundy calls that urge), is simply fascinating!
I don't know if you guys know this, but, for example, Ed isn't the only one who had moments like this! Ted Bundy openly talked about it as well - it's just that people are often not interested in hearing THAT, but just wanna listen about the murders (especially in Bundy's case - because there's so many unsolved crimes, and even totally unknown victims). However, he have said THIS EXACT SAME THING Ed just describes here! Ed says he couldn't do it, something wasn't there, whilst Ted describes how, many nights, he'd approach a girl, implementing his well known modus operandi (pretending to be hurt, with the crutches, or his arm in a cast, whichever one he'd chose for that particular time), and she takes the bait, but "something inside him" told him "No! You don't wanna do it to this girl, there's no need for it", or as he describes it, the "entity" wasn't "asking" for victims that nights, and he'd just wash off the idea, thank the girl for the help (sometimes even continue and go on a normal date with her, and even later on engage into a voluntary sex), and after that, each one of them, walk their separate ways, afterwards!
Now... I wonder, is there someone aware of that, someone who'd actually been in one of those situations??! 'Cause that thing simply fascinates me!
I can vouch for the experiencing of one's being-- once upon a time-- as a battleground between good and evil, where there'd be an ebbing and flowing between which side was most dominant. Opposite the "entity" is one's guardian angel half, and I relate a few experiences in my book (which never bottoms out at murder) when my guardian angel was weakened-- down but not out-- with just enough power to help steer me away from doing something awful.
I'm no expert but I believe it's more simple than you think. These guy's are looking at these girls like non-human objects. But once and while you come across one that you like or can relate too like a sister or something. Even most of these guys have relationships with certain people that murdering them would never even cross their mind.
@@yourneighbor2567thank u for simplifying it. I was gonna go crazy thinking why they left some alive. What you said makes sense and is relatable. Even names of our parents and sisters and cousins are still dear to us and can be a reminder and act as a hinderance in thinking ill of someone with those names.
@@monstrousbytommywalker3700Potential serial killer
Probably two main reasons this happens. 1) Letting some potential victims go gives them a kick in itself, because it makes them feel powerful and godlike. The all-powerful decider of who lives and dies. And they tell themselves they are so powerful, they can make this decision on a whim, toss of a coin. 2) The prospective victim is not quite a match for their preferred ‘type’ in some way, maybe doesn’t exhibit a specific behavioural trait or have a specific physical trait that is a trigger for them. Or has a trait that is off-putting or distracting in some way from their preference. I don’t believe killers like Bundy or Kemper ever allowed a potential victim to walk away for any other reason than they felt they could find a bigger thrill in a different victim.
Little known fact, a lot of audiobooks from this time were voiced by him and his prison mates.
@Pizzazz is best what?? Which ones??
Fuck
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Close to a thousand.
Ideal to play for the kids before bedtime
@Michael P You've got the Internet at your fingertips
The one serial killer I actually feel like solved his problem. He even says it killing his mother made him feel no one else has to die.
He said making women friends was tough ...... maybe because he killed them all.
He didn't though. He picked up hundreds of hitchhikers and dropped them off at their requested destinations before he decided to act on his fantasies, or "little zapples" as he called them. He was trying to learn how to talk to people, women especially, and that was how he got more comfortable doing so. He DID have friends, even a female friend he mentioned once or twice, and later even had a girlfriend, to whom he became engaged. She asked to remain unidentified after his acts were brought to light. He said he never even considered killing her, but he also wasn't ready to get physical with her either.
@@5588sunshine naw I'm really nice to everyone. I give hundreds to homeless people and I've fostered and rescued over 30 dogs in the past 10 yrs...... he would have liked me. I've got the small town humble hospitality.
@@jeepgirl9592 Who cares if a serial killer would've liked you?
@@robertd4100 "need a ride?"
Yea seriously
Intelligent, lettered, and psychopathic... a deadly amalgamation.
He would of made a great Politician, with those traits!
Why not just say combination, gotta try to sound smarter huh?
Agreed in general, but do you know that he was actually diagnosed as psychopathic? Not all serial killers are psychopaths. Looking at wikipedia (which I take with a grain of sault), they never stated he was diagnosed as such.
Nick Nevler amalgamation is perfectly fine to use. Why not use it?
he's intelligent and you're stupid
Fascinating footage. He’s very well spoken. Seems to have a very analytical mind.
Dude got a 145 IQ
Holy shit, the guy who plays him on Mindhunter is a fantastic actor
It’s all about him. He loves the sound of his own voice.
Well, he’s been interviewed!
@Sadie Smiles Actually I think it was another way around. I have listened his other tapes too, and seems to me that his mother was also quite a monster. And she was there first giving exsample to her son. ; ) Obviously we have only his, and their acquaintances words about that. But, there´s always some reason why these people do what they do. If you go far enough in their history, you will find something disturbing from early age. Obviously not all with same kind of history, become serial killers, so something weird is happening in their minds.
@Sadie Smiles You had some other ideas? Ok, joke! ; ) I think your comment is very much too simplifying. We humans are mentally very complicated mammals.
@@oldtimer7635 We, as humans, are very much dual entities!!!
@@taramahoney3368 At least!
I lived in the same hospital this interview is taped. I was there for 4 years. From 2017 to 2021. Atascadero. Temporary schizophrenia from meth caused to me act violent from severe fear and rage. Glad im out, off drugs, no more psychosis.
That's awesome. I've seen people who've done it so long that the delusions become real to them even as sober. Watch the Ted talk by Johann Hari, about addiction. It's very informative and will give you insight on yourself and others.
The haunting part of this whole interview is how level headed and down to earth this guy actually is...until that switch is flipped and he becomes the monster for only a short while. Then he immediately blended back in. You just never know.
he sounds like a crazy white guy..
Serial killers love hearing themselves talk
Yep, they exude the most extreme versions of Narcissism.
I Q is very high Wonder how he scored on the.PCL-R....he actually does work in psychiatric records department too.😱😱😱😱Weird!!
@@pagalmasala Many years ago, I was with someone who had a genius IQ, an eidetic memory, was charming and seemingly harmless. The truth was he was a vicious, sexually sadistic psychopath. Couldn't stop telling me all the things he had done. Was locked up in a psych hospital at the age of 9 (1965) for skinning neighborhood pets alive. Caught bc he had to watch the horror and pain of their owners so he would put them on the doorstep, ring the doorbell and run hide to watch their reaction. Caught him bc he started laughing. He knew I was too afraid of him to tell anyone. It was the early 80's and your average person had never heard of someone like him. Scary mofo!
Growbig SD He’s getting interviewed usually the person who gets interviewed has a tendency to talk.
It's an interview about him what should he do stay quiet
When he talks about how he was so distanced he couldn't believe he had really done that, it reminds me of my own life. Was a sniper in the ARMY for years, and none of that feels real to me anymore. When I talk to former ARMY friends and they reinforce that i really did those things, it's comforting to know I'm not just insane, but yeah. I relate to this a lot.
That is absolutely terrifying.
I wonder if a personality disorder could be happening there.
I'm sorry for what you experienced
Sorry you are going through that. :(
Hazel did such a good job portraying him...
He relives the murders when he's talking about the murders
It's unusual how these guys lead such contrasting double lives. He speaks as though he's an otherwise honest and straight up guy but clearly he couldn't have been
As soon as you notice the unwieldy asymmetry in his moustache, you can't unnotice it
It cannot be unseen. F*ck.
Damn
a truly intimidating individual. I'm truly glad her turned himself in. He was both incretibly strong and intelligent and equally disturbed and sick of mind. Its unfortunate and dark that he went such a path.
In all the interviews I've seen with him, I've never heard one person ask him why he didn't simply move out of the house he lived in with his mother. I mean.... come on, Ed! Grown man.. and you couldn't just leave? Can't blame mommy forever.
Sheila F because honestly he was obsessed with his mother in love and sexually attracted..That answer your question mate?
@@angelanetherton8240 I completely understand that....I would just like hearing his response to that question.
He left his mom in his teens to go live with dad. He was rejected by dad and was sent to live with paternal grandparents, who he killed.
@@lindaiio24 He also stated in this interview that he was paroled to his mother, after being released from the psychiatric prison for his gran parents murder. Not sure how long that period of parole was, but could be a reason he was still there.
He also said when he moved out she’d follow him around and would drop by all the time.
Youll come in contact with at least 6 people like this guy in your lifetime statically speaking.
...and nothing is going to happen.
I'm one hi👋 only 5 left
Moochie shakur I married 3 of them!
A lot more than 6 if you use TH-cam and Facebook and other social media outlets on a regular basis.
My boss is one. Seems harmless for the most part, and even charming at times, but once in a while you'll catch a fleeting and subtle glimpse as to what's really going on under the surface.
*ED KEMPER AND THE STUDY OF HIS SICKNESS WILL HELP SO MANY PATHOLOGISTS AND PROFILERS IN THE FUTURE*
Jesus, can imagine those teen girls and mother watching this and realizing who picked them up?
Same , being a parent myself , its always on my mind that there are freaks like this out there right now.... smiling charming , brains like reptiles.
Jesus is a watching god ,,he did not help them girls
Jesus is my Savior. Please don’t take His name in vain 😢😔
@@chynnadoll3277 lmao
you people do realize he is getting off on talking about his crimes right ?
O.he is.loving this shit
I know
I’m getting off on hearing about it
@@twf2000 I'm getting off on you.
Daphne I’m getting off on you getting off on them getting off on him
He keeps going off on these endless details and retrospective of himself it's crazy to watch because you get into it.
for funsies, slow the playback speed down to .75. you're welcome.
This guy would have never been caught.. how many are out there?
I love the way this guy is so very honest. And just forthright about what he did or did not do.
Love?
Sorry if this is untrue though are you the kind of person who loves animals and dislikes humanity?