It's a great bike for sure. I've had my eye on it for a few months now. If you notice it's basically the same bike as the Cyrusher Trax Hybrid but without the rear suspention and Kenda tyres which is over a grand more.
Yeah I'm trying to work out if there's much point. Brands seem to get around it if they want anyway. And will 250w ebike makers stsrt inflating their power levels to make their bikes seem more attractive.
@toby2524 yeah but it's just the tabloids presenting the bad side of something over the good. Just like they do on e scooters. Can't see past their own arses!
@e-VRC well a legal 500w with a 750w+ peak output would definitely have its advantages. I'm tempted by the pvy z20+ 1000 but the new dual battery bike they have coming out is also of interest.
I suggest a review of the Cyrusher Kommoda step thru. Rated (and labeled) at 250w continuous output and 15.5 mph with a dis-connectable restrictor plug inside the frame , but with a torquey motor (probably a down rated 80nm 750w unit), hydraulic brakes, 20” phat tyres, rear light with brake light built in and full suspension. Mud guards and a robust carrier rack with a thumb throttle you can fit, provided in the box. Priced at currently £1500. I’d like to see a Sandy hill run with it. Great channel👍.
Yeah it looks a good bike. Cyrusher have contacted me a few times about sending a bike but then they tell me they're out of stock. Most likely they contacted a load of TH-camrs and they got enough with more subscribers they decided not to send one.
The motor output restrictions law is being addressed in parliament as I message, hopefully they allow the upgrade to 500w as I travel to work via a non e bike (180miles) and would go battery if the speed was safe to travel on roads with other vehicle users as currently I stay off roads where possible, cycle routes, tow paths and general rights of way for cycling, good looking machine, too heavy for my style of riding, great content, keep up the good work 👍
i have a question, if you take off the limiter but don't put on the twist throttle would it still hit that high speed?? just because the police in my area always checking ebikes for throttles :(
@@khairulnizamml7047 so basically the law they try to enforce is electric bike can be pedal assist only because once something has a throttle of any kind it goes from a physically propelled bike to a motorised vehicle and all motorised vehicles need tax, insurance, mot and a licence to use 😔 So like he said above just take the limiter off so it's still really fast but remove the throttle and you should be safe 😁
@@FlipmodeStudios okay i just once confirmed.that means if i take this bike,i take off limit speed and no trottle so i still legal to use in road just depend on pedal assist only.if you said like this.then this bike will be on my bucket than himiway.thanks buddy your answer help me alot.
It's almost identical to the Cyrusher Kuattro except the kuatto comes with mudguards a rear rack but only a 48v 17ah battery but it is £300 cheaper. Still a nice bike and quality review as always.
I normally prefer a high step for strength, but I would not mind the step through version of this one. Range will be excellent with that battery. I consider a throttle to be a safety device, and it has literally saved my life from a drunk driver careening through a parking lot. The extra power for hill climbing is nice. Trying to regulate speed by limiting power is not the best method, and e-bikes govern their speed with electronic limiters anyways. I use a mode switch on my bike, so it is a 100% class 2 e-bike according to US regulations, but also has a moped and offroad modes. Do I feel bad about the ability to switch modes? Nope! Not when OEM e-bikes do it and advertise 2,000 and 3,000 watt power levels in the US. Even Rad Power Bikes just added selectable modes so you can make the bike class 1, 2, or 3 on a whim, but at least Rad is legal in each class. Thanks for the video!
It looks like a Himiway Zebra, which is what I'm probably about to buy here in the UK. Ultimately, what I'm after is a railway line capable E-bike with the longest battery range possible, I'll mostly be riding in eco mode. Fat tyres will negate the need for suspension, although front suspension will be handy so why not.
@@e-VRC not with this type of bike, no. By railway line I meant that this type of bike will be used to ride on the old disused railway tracks where I live, of which there are plenty. Sorry for the confusion 🙂 I have many other, non electric bikes that I use for different riding disciplines. I've fancied both a fat-bike and an electric bike for some time now and thought "why not get a fat electric bike", and I would use it for long days out, riding from my house with my picnic lunch on fairly easy terrain. I currently use my gravel bike for this and regularly cycle 50 miles off-road no bother, hence the necessity for an Ebike to have the longest range possible, in mostly Eco mode, just for those days when I feel a bit tired but still want to go out. Cheers 👍
*One click, can change it all!* ⚡️👀⚡️ That old-skool Street Fighter throwback 🤩 That list of yours is so long now 😲 Awesome battery size + BMX bar, me like step-through 🤙🏽 Pretty heavy though 😲
Do you find this bike only gets going properly in PAS 5 ? I'm comparing this, as my latest ebike, to my other 1000w 48v ebikes. I agree the rear brake is not so strong....both have 180mm rotors, I was told before I ordered mine, all are 750w, the hidden wire you disconnect keeps it at 250w.
dyu King750 or crazybird jumper? Can you compare them? I'm considering purchasing. the difference in price is only 200 pounds, and purchasing online does not give you the opportunity to form your own opinion.
Better crazy bike because bafang have a good history quality.and lot of company using this after bosch.but if you seldom ride thats its good option and price.
If you buy the 250w version it will be limited, not go over 15.5 and have no throttle provided you don't attach it. Apparently the 750w version is the same just unlimited. They should do away with having a 750w version really or just save it for the us market. I think it poses an interesting question though since if you had an accident with a 125 moped, do you think you wouldn't be insured since the moped/125 were restricted as many are and capable of going faster if derestricted? But yeah definitely don't say 'a TH-camr' said so 😂
@@e-VRC Excellent point about the scooter. I guess the only way we will find out is when someone challenges it in court. As far as I know most people have just accepted their fines and 6 points for no insurance/licence/helmet
I asked Crazy Bird that very question, their answer was that the 250W version does have a 750W motor but with the connector it is limited to 250W and abides by the UK regulations. They also stated that the bike comes with CE certification, 250W stickers on the bike and states 250W on the invoice. I believe that legally, the above should cover me, I am not a lawyer, nor do I pretend to be one, so obviously I may be wrong. I have not yet purchased the bike, but I am intending to do so, unless I see another ebike that seems more appealing this week. Edit (17/03/2024). I bought the bike, all the documentation and the (branded) sticker on the bike state that it is 250W.
@@e-VRCBest part is: to be legal, bike cannot exceed 250W of CONTINOUS POWER. So, peak power can be greater, this is why 750W peak power motor is fine. When You reach 25kph (15.5MPH) motor power is cut - and it is fine with regulations. If You derestrict speed - motor power can exceed 250W on continous usage, and will be illegal (and speed as well) All major brands peaks around 500-600W today (sold as 250W continous power)
@@e-VRC that’s true and I see that they’re out of stock of those on the Crazybird website. It also seems that the e26 has an integrated tail and brake light. It looks like the e26 pulls out in front again. Are there any others that I should look at before I bite the bullet?
@@jediwarlord8718 I do think the e26 is the best all round ebike. The Pvy z20 plus 1000 may be worth a look too but it is more of a standard folding fat bike.
Hi, I really enjoyed your review. I am interested in the Crazy Bird SETA E Bike. Have you reviewed this bike? Second question (apologies) the company don’t appear to have a UK retailer, so I have to order on line only. I am apprehensive as I am new to E bikes so can’t test ride or view one, reliant on reviews like yours. Are Crazy Bird a reputable company in the E bike world? Thanks Andy
Mine was meant to be the 750 but came restricted. I asked if the 250 and 750 were the same a while back but they didn't answer. I asked again and my contact's email no longer existed. I've sent the question again to the email on their website.
@@e-VRC Yeah. Think that's what I'm worrying about, the fact it looks like it will bring attention. Maybe I'll keep shopping about for now. Keep up the good reviews cheers for replying.
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It's a great bike for sure. I've had my eye on it for a few months now. If you notice it's basically the same bike as the Cyrusher Trax Hybrid but without the rear suspention and Kenda tyres which is over a grand more.
Yeah this seems to be a sub brand of. Cyrusher as there's cyrusher labelling on it.
Apparently the government is considering doubling the max wattage to 500w.
Have you seen all the anti 500w propaganda though I doubt it will go through
Yeah I'm trying to work out if there's much point. Brands seem to get around it if they want anyway. And will 250w ebike makers stsrt inflating their power levels to make their bikes seem more attractive.
@toby2524 yeah but it's just the tabloids presenting the bad side of something over the good. Just like they do on e scooters. Can't see past their own arses!
@e-VRC well a legal 500w with a 750w+ peak output would definitely have its advantages.
I'm tempted by the pvy z20+ 1000 but the new dual battery bike they have coming out is also of interest.
@richpmanser1981 ooh i haven't seen that I'll check it out. The 1000+ is great though.
I suggest a review of the Cyrusher Kommoda step thru. Rated (and labeled) at 250w continuous output and 15.5 mph with a dis-connectable restrictor plug inside the frame , but with a torquey motor (probably a down rated 80nm 750w unit), hydraulic brakes, 20” phat tyres, rear light with brake light built in and full suspension. Mud guards and a robust carrier rack with a thumb throttle you can fit, provided in the box. Priced at currently £1500. I’d like to see a Sandy hill run with it. Great channel👍.
Yeah it looks a good bike. Cyrusher have contacted me a few times about sending a bike but then they tell me they're out of stock. Most likely they contacted a load of TH-camrs and they got enough with more subscribers they decided not to send one.
The motor output restrictions law is being addressed in parliament as I message, hopefully they allow the upgrade to 500w as I travel to work via a non e bike (180miles) and would go battery if the speed was safe to travel on roads with other vehicle users as currently I stay off roads where possible, cycle routes, tow paths and general rights of way for cycling, good looking machine, too heavy for my style of riding, great content, keep up the good work 👍
Thanks very much. Fingers crossed it all goes through. Hope you find something suitable.
i have a question, if you take off the limiter but don't put on the twist throttle would it still hit that high speed?? just because the police in my area always checking ebikes for throttles :(
Yeah using pedal assist 👍
@@e-VRC i might look into thisd bike then :)
@@chaver28i dont understand,can you explain more detail.because i m considering to get this buy also to do delivery.
@@khairulnizamml7047 so basically the law they try to enforce is electric bike can be pedal assist only because once something has a throttle of any kind it goes from a physically propelled bike to a motorised vehicle and all motorised vehicles need tax, insurance, mot and a licence to use 😔
So like he said above just take the limiter off so it's still really fast but remove the throttle and you should be safe 😁
@@FlipmodeStudios okay i just once confirmed.that means if i take this bike,i take off limit speed and no trottle so i still legal to use in road just depend on pedal assist only.if you said like this.then this bike will be on my bucket than himiway.thanks buddy your answer help me alot.
It's almost identical to the Cyrusher Kuattro except the kuatto comes with mudguards a rear rack but only a 48v 17ah battery but it is £300 cheaper.
Still a nice bike and quality review as always.
It does have a cyrusher sticker on it. I recorded voice over saying it seems to be a sub brand but it got lost in the edit.
Great review. Can the downtube branding/graphics easily be removed or are they under a clear coat or painted? Many thanks.
I normally prefer a high step for strength, but I would not mind the step through version of this one. Range will be excellent with that battery. I consider a throttle to be a safety device, and it has literally saved my life from a drunk driver careening through a parking lot. The extra power for hill climbing is nice. Trying to regulate speed by limiting power is not the best method, and e-bikes govern their speed with electronic limiters anyways. I use a mode switch on my bike, so it is a 100% class 2 e-bike according to US regulations, but also has a moped and offroad modes. Do I feel bad about the ability to switch modes? Nope! Not when OEM e-bikes do it and advertise 2,000 and 3,000 watt power levels in the US. Even Rad Power Bikes just added selectable modes so you can make the bike class 1, 2, or 3 on a whim, but at least Rad is legal in each class. Thanks for the video!
It looks like a Himiway Zebra, which is what I'm probably about to buy here in the UK.
Ultimately, what I'm after is a railway line capable E-bike with the longest battery range possible, I'll mostly be riding in eco mode.
Fat tyres will negate the need for suspension, although front suspension will be handy so why not.
Do you travel by train a lot?
@@e-VRC not with this type of bike, no. By railway line I meant that this type of bike will be used to ride on the old disused railway tracks where I live, of which there are plenty. Sorry for the confusion 🙂
I have many other, non electric bikes that I use for different riding disciplines. I've fancied both a fat-bike and an electric bike for some time now and thought "why not get a fat electric bike", and I would use it for long days out, riding from my house with my picnic lunch on fairly easy terrain.
I currently use my gravel bike for this and regularly cycle 50 miles off-road no bother, hence the necessity for an Ebike to have the longest range possible, in mostly Eco mode, just for those days when I feel a bit tired but still want to go out.
Cheers 👍
Ah I get ya. In that case this would be pretty good at doing that 👍😊
@@e-VRC yes, and with a hub motor having minimal drag when turned off I could at least pedal home (very slowly!) if I ran out of battery.
@@tonypaddler You can pedal home without battery on a mid drive too
Thanks man, I unblocked my himiway with throttle is doing it now 35mph 😂😂
Gears are not as important on hub driven ebikes!🤔 but are Very Important on Midrive ebikes as they drive the chain😉👍
You go to the US more often than my friend.
What do you think the range will be like and are the cells LG ??
I'm to find myself saying this but
I like the step through
Same. Somehow it seems more fun 😁
Are there any folding electric bike that do this
I like/ prefer bmx style bars, having a bad back i sit more upright
They also look loads better 👍
Great content as usual 👍🏻
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That old-skool Street Fighter throwback 🤩
That list of yours is so long now 😲
Awesome battery size + BMX bar, me like step-through 🤙🏽
Pretty heavy though 😲
You mean Mortal Kombat 😍
@@kingelvis No, Street Fighter - blink, and you miss it. You're talkin about another part of the video with Mortal Kombat, try watchin again.
Haha yeah it is. Big fan of the bike. And yeah USA not toasty 😂
Do you find this bike only gets going properly in PAS 5 ? I'm comparing this, as my latest ebike, to my other 1000w 48v ebikes. I agree the rear brake is not so strong....both have 180mm rotors, I was told before I ordered mine, all are 750w, the hidden wire you disconnect keeps it at 250w.
Awesome i thought as much. I found the opposite, low pedal assists were pretty quick.
@@e-VRC interesting, I guess they aren't all set up the same... great looking bike though 😁
stepthrough my fave but full suspension i would like.
Especially for off road 👍
dyu King750 or crazybird jumper? Can you compare them? I'm considering purchasing. the difference in price is only 200 pounds, and purchasing online does not give you the opportunity to form your own opinion.
They're very similar. Both great. Personally I prefer the king. Comes with mudguards and felt faster. Also 3 seconds faster up Sandy Lane 🤟
and what about their real range on an unlocked engine in the USA?😉
does both have the same delay in the motor's response to pedaling?
Better crazy bike because bafang have a good history quality.and lot of company using this after bosch.but if you seldom ride thats its good option and price.
But is it really legal? If involved in an accident, I am not sure the police will except the explanation that a TH-camr said it was OK!!
If you buy the 250w version it will be limited, not go over 15.5 and have no throttle provided you don't attach it. Apparently the 750w version is the same just unlimited. They should do away with having a 750w version really or just save it for the us market.
I think it poses an interesting question though since if you had an accident with a 125 moped, do you think you wouldn't be insured since the moped/125 were restricted as many are and capable of going faster if derestricted?
But yeah definitely don't say 'a TH-camr' said so 😂
@@e-VRC Excellent point about the scooter. I guess the only way we will find out is when someone challenges it in court. As far as I know most people have just accepted their fines and 6 points for no insurance/licence/helmet
I asked Crazy Bird that very question, their answer was that the 250W version does have a 750W motor but with the connector it is limited to 250W and abides by the UK regulations. They also stated that the bike comes with CE certification, 250W stickers on the bike and states 250W on the invoice.
I believe that legally, the above should cover me, I am not a lawyer, nor do I pretend to be one, so obviously I may be wrong.
I have not yet purchased the bike, but I am intending to do so, unless I see another ebike that seems more appealing this week.
Edit (17/03/2024).
I bought the bike, all the documentation and the (branded) sticker on the bike state that it is 250W.
@@e-VRCBest part is: to be legal, bike cannot exceed 250W of CONTINOUS POWER.
So, peak power can be greater, this is why 750W peak power motor is fine.
When You reach 25kph (15.5MPH) motor power is cut - and it is fine with regulations.
If You derestrict speed - motor power can exceed 250W on continous usage, and will be illegal (and speed as well)
All major brands peaks around 500-600W today (sold as 250W continous power)
@@Faluzeerhow do you like the bike..?
Would consider selling one this ebike or the engine pro ?
Cheers
I usually sell the ebikes I review since I don't have room to keep them but I've already sold those two.
Oh dear oh dear, just stumbled on this review after finally having made my mind up on the Engwe e-26 and now I’m back at the undecided stage. 😂🤣.
Nice conundrum. Both great bikes. You get the rack and mudguards with the e26 though.
@@e-VRC that’s true and I see that they’re out of stock of those on the Crazybird website. It also seems that the e26 has an integrated tail and brake light. It looks like the e26 pulls out in front again. Are there any others that I should look at before I bite the bullet?
@@jediwarlord8718 I do think the e26 is the best all round ebike. The Pvy z20 plus 1000 may be worth a look too but it is more of a standard folding fat bike.
@@e-VRC thank you so much for your advice. The e26 it is. Just gotta wait for payday to put in my order :).
Hi, I really enjoyed your review. I am interested in the Crazy Bird SETA E Bike. Have you reviewed this bike?
Second question (apologies) the company don’t appear to have a UK retailer, so I have to order on line only. I am apprehensive as I am new to E bikes so can’t test ride or view one, reliant on reviews like yours. Are Crazy Bird a reputable company in the E bike world?
Thanks
Andy
im a bit confused, is your bike the 750w or 250 because my derestricted 250w limits at 20mph on unrestricted
You unplugged and changed the speed in the computer?
Mine was meant to be the 750 but came restricted. I asked if the 250 and 750 were the same a while back but they didn't answer. I asked again and my contact's email no longer existed. I've sent the question again to the email on their website.
@e-VRC no i disconnected the wire under the battery. One problem is that it rinses the battery so going only a mile or two takes me down 10-20%
They got back to me and the 250 is the same as the 750. Try increasing the speed limit in the computer if you haven't.
@@e-VRC how do i do that?
For 1400 with a G62 motor that's not bad
Agreed. It might seem more expensive than similar bikes but it's got some high quality gear.
@@e-VRC
How long does delivery take pal?
Have you ever been pulled over? I am in the market for an ebike. I am looking at the Engwe M20 im just worried about getting the bike confiscated.
Not yet. I'm way more paranoid on the bikes that look like motorbikes though.
@@e-VRC Yeah. Think that's what I'm worrying about, the fact it looks like it will bring attention. Maybe I'll keep shopping about for now. Keep up the good reviews cheers for replying.
There's always the L20. Similar performance but loads of utility and normal bike looks. Plus step thru convenience.
@@e-VRC This is a great shout btw, im on the edge of buying this one.
Hi mate, when derestricted & using the throttle do you still have to toggle through the gears up/down or does it bypass the gears?
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Same when unlocked