I now have the deepest respect for all the staff who show up to work every day and help rehabilitate these kids to become men and provide the opportunity for a successful future, despite the stress and/or injuries they sustain from them.
@@mattjack3983 You sound like either a mommy or a gay man. There is no such thing as postpubescent kids. These are murderers, rapists and so on. The fact that they are teenagers is unimportant. Zuck founded Facebook when he was a teenager, no one called him a kid.
Reading that John took his own life broke my heart. The young man in this documentary was so full of hope and promise. The grip that trauma and mental health issues can have on a person unfortunately prevents them from seeing the good in themselves. I hope that John is at peace, and that he now knows the positive impact he's had on others throughout his life.
Thank you for this documentary. I show it in class to at risk students so that they don't go to prison. Intervention and prevention are keys to change this nation.
IMO, this should be shown in schools! Even if they hear about it, they need to see it for what it truly is. Drugs and alcohol are a huge problem, it gives them courage to do crimes. As teenagers their going through so much naturally, hormones, peer pressure, fighting with parents, siblings. It's so sad, I wish if kids are struggling they would ask for help, until someone does something, before it's too late! I get it starts at home, schools also could help with counseling. These children are our future!!
Rest In Peace John, you made the best of your situation and you were a role model to many people, it’s a tragedy your life had to end that way, you were bright and dedicated, strong and resilient. Rest easy solider
@A MP - Yay! Glad we could help make a rainy day a bit better, even though our subject matter is a bit intense. Really appreciate your viewership and taking the time to comment!
I was very proud of John for all he did while in the facility, as well as his time in the military. I was very sad when I read at the end that he had take his life. May he rest in peace. He did what he felt he had to and it is not for others to second quess why he did it. Very good video and does teach much about the juvenile prison system. He had been an inspiration to so many in his life even though he may not have known it.
@New Yorker - Thanks for your nice words and for taking the time to comment. It's always wrenching when we get news like this. Proves you just never know exactly what someone is going through, even though things seem good on the outside. Greatly appreciate you watching the documentary.
No. It's appropriate to second guess making a decision like. It's never ok. It's never acceptable. It's never anything other than a tragedy and a shame for a person to leave this world that way.
@A MP We agree with you. John's story was emotional on so many levels. Such a tragic ending--one that shocked us all.. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment.
I was so happy when John passed his test and was released and then reading he took his on life last year literally brought me to tears!!! He had so much promise!! MAY YOU RIP NOW JOHN 🙏🏻🙏🏻
It is so strange to watch this as a white 47 year old male. I had a normal childhood. Stayed out of trouble, graduated top half of class, got married and was living a productive life. Had an injury and got hooked on pain killers. Lost basically everything and only by shear luck never ended up in prison. I am sober now but still struggle daily. I really feel for these kids that grow up harsh and loveless homes. I still take it one day at a time. So sorry to hear about John Madden. By the Grace of God I didn't pull the trigger but definitely had those aspirations at times. Moved in with my dad before Covid hit and have been helping take care of him. Got out of the city and now live in a tiny town in south Texas area.
Hang tough sir . You' can keep doing this. You can get back to where you want to be. Good luck to you ... good thoughts to you ...and remember .. you have fought hard to be where you are. One day at a time!
God bless you! I’m happy for you that you weee able or over come but like you said it’s one day at a time..unfortunately some of these kids come from “normal” living homes but are born with issues that are over looked with some parents in denial and some just don’t know…I have a 30 year old that i love and support til this day I try to tell her she needs counseling and so forth but what can I do now that she’s an adult I had her in counseling when she was a minor but unfortunately all I can do now is talk and support her..she hasn’t seen a Councelor since she was a minor and she really needs it as an adult…Now she has boys and I pray that they don’t end up like some of these boys ..
John did look deeply sad. I wondered why his face was so solemn. I only saw him smile one time in this whole documentary and that was when he was hugging his friends goodbye. So sad he took his life.
I was in the detention center for about a year. After my commitment I lived in placement for a few years. It’s sad to think most the kids I was locked up with are doing years on years in prison, strung out on hard drugs or dead. A few of us are doing good but we’re all about a decade behind, statistics show kids like us will be that far behind at least. And that’s ok, we’re doing it now and that’s what matters.
It’s so true when they say “Discipline your kids or we will!” Do not blame the system, when it’s the parent’s responsibility to raise them and not the states.
Me to i have been watching this video many times I adored him so much, I thought he's in navy or military now bcoz he's good while he is inside the prison seeing him doing he's task as a leader, I'm so sad knowing he's dead now. RIP john
That is so STUPID of the military. Why not let them walk out of the facility and go directly into the military??? Ridiculous. That “red tape “ needs to disappear. That Future Soldier program is brilliant. These kids need programs like this.
That quick title card at the end saying John took his own life took my breath away honestly... I was looking up follow up stuff towards the end of the video about him in the military or anything then saw that. Is there any facebook page or gofundme to send s message to Johns family and friends that we loved him too?
@Caroline Hafner - John had a wonderful mentor who helped him endlessly throughout the years, including helping him with his finances in college. He is familiar with our TH-cam channel and can see the posts. We greatly appreciate your sentiments, and are grateful for your viewership.
the problem with these young men are the lack of discipline in home. When I was a child I would get my ass whooped if I misbehaved. Now parents will face criminal charges for disciplining there kids.
@SamMccoy thankyou for having courage to share your story. Respect that you pushed through.... My story is not the same ...Although my life changed forever after a spinal cord injury....I lost my job as teacher my self respect as I lived with chronic pain and disability..15 years on I live day by day now...Learning to live with and accept physical limitations and peoples reactions to them is hard and often very humbling... its been a real journey Yet through it all I ve come to understand that many suffer in so many ways and judging others is distructive. With compassion we can begin to heal person by person....It takes courage, compassion and grit....and people like you....
@@CalamariProductions can u please inform me what was his medical issue bc this is terribly sad? THANX for all the documentaries u guys been putting out I have been really into them... Have a wonderful day & I hope this channel continues to grow bc I hope a lot of ppl can learn from these stories even if it's just one 💝💝!!!
Man, that threw me for a loop. I’m so proud of John and what he accomplished. It’s so sad he got discharged on medical and then took his life later on. Rest in peace brother.
I will never understand why someone would bring children in to this difficult world when they cannot take care of them. It is abuse and neglect. Really sad.
That’s real heartbreaking to hear about what happened to John, scoring that well on the asvab was great it meant he really wanted to change things but it’s sad to see he ended up taking his own life. I thought he really was changing things around but it seemed he couldn’t shake those traumas of his past 😔 Rest In Peace John.
Amen, friend. He sure tried his hardest. His mother's first words scared me as soon as I heard her talk. My gut sank with a bad feeling. John put in a lot of effort. May he rest in peace.
I'm very impressed with that Care Team girl who put out calming vibes to the "biggest threat" to the facility and got him to de-escalate with a sandwich and love.
that women probably has had family or someone close have something like incarceration or involved in gangs and stuff bc they’re the only ones i’ve ever really noticed that understands their situation and how to help them
I’ve been in and out of mental hospitals and residential facilities and even got kicked out of one of them- they won’t take me as a patient anymore because I’ve been there 18 times and my behavior was awful (it’s called failure to treat I believe) and it truly is hard to find the motivation and keep the motivation to stay out of places like that and succeed in the real world… I’ve been home for about 5 months now which is the longest in the past 4 years I’ve been out so it’s awesome to see these guys find hope to be in the military! I hope these boys (and girls but we only really see the boys) do well and stay out.
I think the Boot Camp to Military Scheme is great. When I was a juvenile I was a rouge and ended up in Court (In the UK), I was given a chance, screwed the nut for a year and a half, then at 17 joined the Military leaving after two decades, five operational Tours under my belt and exemplary conduct report on discharge.
@Vuxona - we were shocked when we learned the news. We kept in touch with him for many years. He was doing well and was taking college classes. Sadly, he had a lot of demons from a traumatic childhood. A very sad ending and a life gone too soon.
@@CalamariProductions I just recently found your channel and I am very impressed with it. I have to say my heart sank when I saw where Mr. Madden had taken his own life and hes gone way too soon. You stated he had a lot of demons from his traumatic childhood that was a contributing factor to his suicide and I am pretty sure I can relate to what your saying. I'm asking, did the program he was in learn from this terrible tragedy and implement a more intense therapy program to help these young men to deal with their demons from their childhood? I hope they did and I hope they give recognition to Mr. Madden for opening their eyes and minds even more. May you rest in peace and glory for the short time you honored us with your presence here John Madden.
@@heatherjohnson5160 john madden from the documentary , who was in the direction to a good life and left prison . may he rest in peace . regards to his family .
@@CalamariProductions Thank you for telling us what happened... I wonder if him being medically DC from the military felt like a failure or something as he found so much worth in it. I know I've had my career detailed due to ill health and its been very difficult to deal with when you've spent so much time training and focusing on becoming this one thing as your identity for a career. I'm so sad he seemed to have to much insight and was well respected.
😢JOHN DIED FROM A SELF-INFLICTED GUNSHOT WOUND IN 2020 AT THE AGE OF 30... RIP JOHN 🙏 🕊 ☮ 😢✌🇺🇲 YOU ARE MISS.. GOD-BLESS HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS... WITH LOTS OF LOVE ALL THE WAY FROM INDIANAPOLIS,INDIANA ❤
Wow I wasn't expecting that! God bless you John you made so many people proud. God bless all of those people in Pendleton that helped and believed in him ❤
When I was stationed at Fort Stewart Georgia in the mid-90s they used to bring the boot camp kids on to the post to run the obstacle course. One day I went up to the shoppette and all the bootcamp kids were lined up outside. They were being allowed into the store in small groups to buy personal hygiene items and things like that. I went inside and made my purchase. I walked outside with a case of beer on each shoulder and walked over to my brand new car, that I had just bought the week prior, it still had the paper dealers plate on it, and put the beer in my car. I turned around and all the kids that were still sitting outside were watching me. I'm sure some of them like to do some underage drinking before they got sentenced to the program. And their drill instructor said "Take a good look gentleman you see that nice ride and that cold beer? That's what doing the right thing and staying out of trouble gets you."
People fail to realize for some of these kids it’s not just “lack of discipline” or them needing to “grow up” - for some, it’s their environment like growing up with absent parents/addicted parents/abusive or neglectful parents or parents who constantly go in/out of jail themselves with no family members or village to relate to, or help guide them in the right direction a crucial times in their lives. Their minds are still developing at these ages, along with the hormonal changes, & they’ve gone without learning how to properly process their emotions (impulse control, anger, etc), which is what the counselors are there trying to help them accomplish. A lot of these boys are really just seeking acceptance & trying to fit in anywhere they can, even if it’s with the criminal, gang, or prison crowd.
@Sriacha Hero - We were too. As we commented on another post, he had been doing well as an adult and was in college at the time of his death. We were all shocked by the news. Gone far too soon. :(
This military program is wonderful and need more Maybe something will change of sending these young men back into bad neighborhoods for a month before going to boot camp. A halfway house or something. My condolences to John's family and friends . RIP John.
I really wish every juvenile prison had this program...kids need structure...positive structure...and these kids need family...families that will give unconditional support...I truly believe these programs make these kids better and even the kids that want to get in to the program makes them reach for higher standards...and these programs make them give back to their country and community
I was actually locked up with John Madden for a few months like 20 years ago when we were kids… that’s super sad to see that he had so much potential and then killed himself… I’ll never forget him! RIP John Madden
The life ring that John so valiantly embraced dissolved before his eyes. The military gave him a reason to change and grow. Being medically discharged casts a broad net. He may have sustained an injury, encountered a genetic deficiency, or mental illness that was undiagnosed or under treated. With the driving force behind his desire to change gone, he probably perceived that the only way to survive was through the old ways that landed him in corrections in the first place. Rising above that, yet seeing it as the only option, had to be disheartening. I understand his suicide. What he needed, and perhaps had, was a case worker that was able to make weekly contact. Note: Not an officer of the court, or anyone that can hold jail time over his head. If I was John’s case manager, I would guide him towards an physical and organized career. Off the top of my head, a position within the Forest Service. I taught rock climbing, kayaking, rafting.
Couldn't the navy have given him a position that would accommodate his situation?? He wanted a military career more than anything. It's so tragic!! Wish he got the chance to meet you after his d/c.
These programs are for these kids are good but these kids have to want to work and work hard to change their perpesctive in life and they are the onlys that can do this
I cried for John. Taking your own life is not an easy decision, and sometimes life weighs heavily enough that it breaks the toughest of people. He did exactly what he said he would do, he changed, he changed his life, his situation and his attitude.
Its so sad the key is rehabilitation and alot of these kids either are able to get out and go the right path or back into the old ways and continue their old ways into the adult prison and the the word rehabilation is out the window the parole boards should be abolished all together its a big joke
I think getting to the military life was all John knew. The structure, the discipline. When it was taken out of his hands for medical reasons. It broke him of all he believed he was worth. John you are an inspiration to many and always will be. Thank you
@aprilcook919 - Appreciate you watching John's story. Sadly, his mental health issues from an early age were never properly addressed, and those issues followed him throughout his life. He had seemingly been doing well prior to taking his own life. It just proves we never really know the internal struggles that so many people deal with. Sad.
When y'all say military exam, do you mean the ASVAB? I took it my sophomore year in high school and was thrilled with my results. In my opinion, it's a great exam that is more indicative of one's aptitudes and weaknesses than other exams.
I'd would disagree with that being I took that test twice in the 1980s and came up with different results each time. It doesn't show someone aptitudes. Tests rarely show that to be honest.
Back in the 70s I was on the streets at 14 and never had a good mom or dad. 5 step dads beat and molested me. Mom a crackhead stripper. In our younger years we could rally get away with all kids of trouble. At 18 we get a clean slate. I still had plenty of jail time but now a days kids don’t really have a chance to redeem themselves. Nice to see a program they can succeed and make a better life. Lucky for me I met my wife at 18 and she had twins boys. We got married and now 35 years later we have a great life with our kids and grandkids. Sadly today kids are behind the 8 ball.
I was in that prison and also in the military program like 15 years ago😅 once you turn 21 they just walk you across the street to the adult prison theirs like 3 prison in that area
God bless his heart. I’m so, so sorry that John Madden was unable to let go of his past issues & took his own life. His story was one of HOPE that he seemed to overcome. It’s heartbreaking. I truly hope that this story hits hard at so many parents of today. When horrible things are inflicted on children in their formative years, its next to impossible for that child to overcome & let go of. Abuse in ANY form, verbal, emotional, physical, neglect is simply unacceptable for parents or anyone else to visit on an innocent child. Think of how hard it is, as an adult, to make permanent positive changes in lifestyle or attitude. Then calculate how much harder it is for children, pre teens, then teenagers that don’t have the years of life experience that an adult has. When you have a child, your needs & wants become secondary- to me, I have a hard time wrapping my head around a parent that does not understand or believe this! A child absolutely needs love, time, attention and a simple kind living environment in order to have a CHANCE to thrive. Some kids that have all the love in the world will still make bad decisions. How did I come to these conclusions? I’ve lived it. I’m a widow now raising one of my grandkids. I pray every day, multiple times, that I will be enough of a parent for this grandchild to overcome the many things that were unfairly visited on her. I pray I got her in time to overcome all she has been through. Some parents think they have a choice to just “opt out” of parenting a child when the child misbehaves, or is challenging. I’m not trying to over generalize this opinion. I simply see this happening far too often. 🙏
i would guarantee if as many people would have reached out to john personally as have said nice things about him here, he would still be alive. let that be a reminder to all of you if you think you cant make a difference in someones life.
I think this Future Soldiers Programme is an excellent opportunity for these boys. It gives them what their parents should have given them. It gives them focus but most of all a sense of belonging and hope. Just a shame there's only a few places
@janemorgan5584 - appreciate your comments. So many of the kids told us the Future Soldiers program gave them the structure they needed. It was often the structure they missed on the outside. The key is trying to find ways to implement some sort of structure once they're released. It's always a massive challenge, especially if kids have no support system once they're out. Again, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
I know that since my son was little has been a handful when I'm around but better behaved with others. I wonder if that helps these kids to not be around family so they behave a little better.
@NotADeadCat - We're working on it! We've also reuploaded some of our old interviews and added additional scenes, along with information at the end of the videos stating where the kids are today. We hope you'll check out these "Then & Now" videos but going to our home page or typing those words in the search bar. Thanks!
so happy to see that john got through all that... literally breaks my heart to see that he gave up on himself after that, seemed like such a good dude, wicked outgoing, such a fucking shame
Please don't say suicide is giving up on yourself. It doesn't nearly describe the utter hopelessness and isolation the person feels at the time where it is their only option. Of course I do not advocate it, but your sentence here sounds like blame and it is a tragic thing all around he felt this was his only option. Many people after not being able to do the career they've trained for many years or perfected get discharged/fired for medical reasons find it very difficult to find meaning in life when work is what gave them meaning and purpose. Especially very driven and goal oriented people.
You can do this! Stick at it, be strong, get yourself back on track & free from addiction. Life is so much better when you’re free. There’s always support & encouragement around so go seek it out to help make your journey a little bit easier. Good luck!
Keep going and pray just keep god in your life! Or some type of higher power and have hope that things will get better they can and will turn around one day! But you have to put in some type of work and take steps at least little ones to start.
@Eric S - Interesting. Never realized that. This was the first cell extraction we ever filmed so we had no previous knowledge of how things usually worked. Appreciate your insight.
I now have the deepest respect for all the staff who show up to work every day and help rehabilitate these kids to become men and provide the opportunity for a successful future, despite the stress and/or injuries they sustain from them.
The staff is just as messed up as the inmates most of the time
Those are NOT kids, what's wrong with you ??
@@alainportant6412Except that those ARE kids. Wtf is wrong with YOU?
@@mattjack3983 You sound like either a mommy or a gay man. There is no such thing as postpubescent kids.
These are murderers, rapists and so on. The fact that they are teenagers is unimportant. Zuck founded Facebook when he was a teenager, no one called him a kid.
This broke my heart so badly. All who have met you here have loved you. You will forever be in my heart John Madden. I KNOW I will never forget you.💜
Reading that John took his own life broke my heart. The young man in this documentary was so full of hope and promise. The grip that trauma and mental health issues can have on a person unfortunately prevents them from seeing the good in themselves. I hope that John is at peace, and that he now knows the positive impact he's had on others throughout his life.
Where did you see this?
Waiting in the grave for judgment
Yeah foreal, where did you see this?
@@aamusic7778 it’s in the description
@@derekalvarado6759 video description
Thank you for this documentary. I show it in class to at risk students so that they don't go to prison. Intervention and prevention are keys to change this nation.
*this world
Thank you for what you do. I wish one of my teachers would have done that.
IMO, this should be shown in schools! Even if they hear about it, they need to see it for what it truly is. Drugs and alcohol are a huge problem, it gives them courage to do crimes. As teenagers their going through so much naturally, hormones, peer pressure, fighting with parents, siblings. It's so sad, I wish if kids are struggling they would ask for help, until someone does something, before it's too late! I get it starts at home, schools also could help with counseling. These children are our future!!
Teachers like yourself who take the time to talk n actually show me if u tell us your problem we can help you
Chills went down my spine reading John is not longer alive....may you rest in peace my dear John....
Wow, that young man went through all of that & then took his own life. That’s so damn sad
Rest In Peace John, you made the best of your situation and you were a role model to many people, it’s a tragedy your life had to end that way, you were bright and dedicated, strong and resilient. Rest easy solider
Calamari making this rainy day better with a documentary let's go!!!
@A MP - Yay! Glad we could help make a rainy day a bit better, even though our subject matter is a bit intense. Really appreciate your viewership and taking the time to comment!
I was very proud of John for all he did while in the facility, as well as his time in the military.
I was very sad when I read at the end that he had take his life. May he rest in peace. He did what he felt he had to and it is not for others to second quess why he did it.
Very good video and does teach much about the juvenile prison system.
He had been an inspiration to so many in his life even though he may not have known it.
Dam I was hoping for better news but god bless him
@New Yorker - Thanks for your nice words and for taking the time to comment. It's always wrenching when we get news like this. Proves you just never know exactly what someone is going through, even though things seem good on the outside. Greatly appreciate you watching the documentary.
No. It's appropriate to second guess making a decision like. It's never ok. It's never acceptable. It's never anything other than a tragedy and a shame for a person to leave this world that way.
Yo the end really hit different man John was special i cried as soon as he seen his mom man may your soul be leading the troops in heaven. 😢🙏💯
@A MP We agree with you. John's story was emotional on so many levels. Such a tragic ending--one that shocked us all.. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment.
I tried looking it up i cant find it
The care team lady was superb 👌 she calmed me down and she wasn't even talking to me!
That's Kate. She's amazing!!
@@CalamariProductions she is, like I said she calmed me down and I wasn't even the one she was speaking to
I was so happy when John passed his test and was released and then reading he took his on life last year literally brought me to tears!!! He had so much promise!! MAY YOU RIP NOW JOHN 🙏🏻🙏🏻
How he die?
He didn’t die he got discharged Wht
@@jesuspineda6885 He is dead
@@jesuspineda6885 Taking your own life means suicide.
@@jesuspineda6885Why would you possibly need to know how he committed suicide??
I pray for these young men. May God be with them. I'm rooting for you, Madden! 💙🙏
Such a great story and then the ending is so horrible. RIP John
Wow, I wasnt expecting that at all. I hate u couldn't overcome those demons, John, u seemed so amazing and had so much to offer 😢
It is so strange to watch this as a white 47 year old male. I had a normal childhood. Stayed out of trouble, graduated top half of class, got married and was living a productive life. Had an injury and got hooked on pain killers. Lost basically everything and only by shear luck never ended up in prison. I am sober now but still struggle daily. I really feel for these kids that grow up harsh and loveless homes. I still take it one day at a time. So sorry to hear about John Madden. By the Grace of God I didn't pull the trigger but definitely had those aspirations at times. Moved in with my dad before Covid hit and have been helping take care of him. Got out of the city and now live in a tiny town in south Texas area.
Stay strong brother 💪
Hang tough sir . You' can keep doing this. You can get back to where you want to be. Good luck to you ... good thoughts to you ...and remember .. you have fought hard to be where you are. One day at a time!
glad to hear you are doing well.
God bless you! I’m happy for you that you weee able or over come but like you said it’s one day at a time..unfortunately some of these kids come from “normal” living homes but are born with issues that are over looked with some parents in denial and some just don’t know…I have a 30 year old that i love and support til this day I try to tell her she needs counseling and so forth but what can I do now that she’s an adult I had her in counseling when she was a minor but unfortunately all I can do now is talk and support her..she hasn’t seen a Councelor since she was a minor and she really needs it as an adult…Now she has boys and I pray that they don’t end up like some of these boys ..
Sounds like you're figuring things out. All love & support to you & dad.
John did look deeply sad. I wondered why his face was so solemn. I only saw him smile one time in this whole documentary and that was when he was hugging his friends goodbye. So sad he took his life.
Every state needs this program and care staff, these men and women are awesome people
I was in the detention center for about a year. After my commitment I lived in placement for a few years. It’s sad to think most the kids I was locked up with are doing years on years in prison, strung out on hard drugs or dead. A few of us are doing good but we’re all about a decade behind, statistics show kids like us will be that far behind at least. And that’s ok, we’re doing it now and that’s what matters.
I hope you've been enjoying life and you're still consistent and persistent.
It’s so true when they say “Discipline your kids or we will!” Do not blame the system, when it’s the parent’s responsibility to raise them and not the states.
So many people should never be parents.
What a tragic end for this resolute young man. It weighs down my heart.
Broke my damn heart. I don’t think I’ll ever be forgetting John, especially.
Me to i have been watching this video many times I adored him so much, I thought he's in navy or military now bcoz he's good while he is inside the prison seeing him doing he's task as a leader, I'm so sad knowing he's dead now. RIP john
This is good for these young men. Every state should have a program like this. Good job!
That is so STUPID of the military. Why not let them walk out of the facility and go directly into the military??? Ridiculous. That “red tape “ needs to disappear. That Future Soldier program is brilliant. These kids need programs like this.
I agree.
Those 12 years!!! Hopefully, was awesome for him...RIP JOHN 🇺🇲✌😢🕊❤🙏 NEVER FORGOTTEN 🇺🇲
I love some of those boy's attitude, we can see a lot of them will be back on the right track.
OMG! I was not expecting that ending! What the hell?? He did so good. God love him, I hope he found some peace. I am so sad right now :(
That quick title card at the end saying John took his own life took my breath away honestly... I was looking up follow up stuff towards the end of the video about him in the military or anything then saw that. Is there any facebook page or gofundme to send s message to Johns family and friends that we loved him too?
@Caroline Hafner - John had a wonderful mentor who helped him endlessly throughout the years, including helping him with his finances in college. He is familiar with our TH-cam channel and can see the posts. We greatly appreciate your sentiments, and are grateful for your viewership.
the problem with these young men are the lack of discipline in home. When I was a child I would get my ass whooped if I misbehaved. Now parents will face criminal charges for disciplining there kids.
the system is fucked and screwed up , even in my country sweden , and many kids learn how to use the system for their own sick purposs , .
@SamMccoy thankyou for having courage to share your story. Respect that you pushed through.... My story is not the same ...Although my life changed forever after a spinal cord injury....I lost my job as teacher my self respect as I lived with chronic pain and disability..15 years on I live day by day now...Learning to live with and accept physical limitations and peoples reactions to them is hard and often very humbling... its been a real journey Yet through it all I ve come to understand that many suffer in so many ways and judging others is distructive. With compassion we can begin to heal person by person....It takes courage, compassion and grit....and people like you....
This is a very impressive staff! I have so much respect for them and am pleased with how they deescalate and treat everyone with respect
Thanks for working with our kids.
@Robert Clubs - It's a privilege to be entrusted with their stories. Thanks for being with us here on our channel.
Tragic ending to a new reformed beginning at such a young age!
@Fay Kouri - We agree. We were stunned when we learned the news. He had been doing so well. A young life cut way too short. :(
@@CalamariProductions can u please inform me what was his medical issue bc this is terribly sad? THANX for all the documentaries u guys been putting out I have been really into them... Have a wonderful day & I hope this channel continues to grow bc I hope a lot of ppl can learn from these stories even if it's just one 💝💝!!!
What happened to who?!
Man, that threw me for a loop. I’m so proud of John and what he accomplished. It’s so sad he got discharged on medical and then took his life later on. Rest in peace brother.
Damn he committed suicide?
Yeah it stated at the end of the video that he died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound in 2020. @@bxi1547
Whoever the narrator is love his voice...I think he narrated the lock up and lock down series
Correct
I will never understand why someone would bring children in to this difficult world when they cannot take care of them. It is abuse and neglect. Really sad.
Its usaully becasue of lack of education
Lack of self respect mostly, juveniles like to act tough as in "badass" till they realize consequences.
I mean lack of availability of safe abortion and stigmatsation there of might have to do something with it.
Agree 100%....it is a Damn shame.
@@logangellasch8944 And lack of a male figure of authority and a role model.
That’s real heartbreaking to hear about what happened to John, scoring that well on the asvab was great it meant he really wanted to change things but it’s sad to see he ended up taking his own life. I thought he really was changing things around but it seemed he couldn’t shake those traumas of his past 😔 Rest In Peace John.
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Amen, friend. He sure tried his hardest. His mother's first words scared me as soon as I heard her talk. My gut sank with a bad feeling. John put in a lot of effort. May he rest in peace.
@@IsabelsHonor I am with you there. Yes, may he rest in peace. 🥺
@@IsabelsHonorwhat bad feeling did you get from the mother if I may ask?
I'm very impressed with that Care Team girl who put out calming vibes to the "biggest threat" to the facility and got him to de-escalate with a sandwich and love.
Yeah that woman is a gift on this earth
that women probably has had family or someone close have something like incarceration or involved in gangs and stuff bc they’re the only ones i’ve ever really noticed that understands their situation and how to help them
Have u ever seen the snicker commercial
Love and someone to look up to missing in their lives probably got them where they are. Sadly! Every child deserves love and affection.
A sandwich in there is like gold
I’ve been in and out of mental hospitals and residential facilities and even got kicked out of one of them- they won’t take me as a patient anymore because I’ve been there 18 times and my behavior was awful (it’s called failure to treat I believe) and it truly is hard to find the motivation and keep the motivation to stay out of places like that and succeed in the real world… I’ve been home for about 5 months now which is the longest in the past 4 years I’ve been out so it’s awesome to see these guys find hope to be in the military! I hope these boys (and girls but we only really see the boys) do well and stay out.
This is one of the best juvy detentions I've ever seen. Staff seems to take the time to care and I'm just really impressed by this one.
I think the Boot Camp to Military Scheme is great. When I was a juvenile I was a rouge and ended up in Court (In the UK), I was given a chance, screwed the nut for a year and a half, then at 17 joined the Military leaving after two decades, five operational Tours under my belt and exemplary conduct report on discharge.
I agree. Military is the best option for many youths.
I’m shook he took his life.
@Vuxona - we were shocked when we learned the news. We kept in touch with him for many years. He was doing well and was taking college classes. Sadly, he had a lot of demons from a traumatic childhood. A very sad ending and a life gone too soon.
Who took their life?!
@@CalamariProductions I just recently found your channel and I am very impressed with it. I have to say my heart sank when I saw where Mr. Madden had taken his own life and hes gone way too soon. You stated he had a lot of demons from his traumatic childhood that was a contributing factor to his suicide and I am pretty sure I can relate to what your saying. I'm asking, did the program he was in learn from this terrible tragedy and implement a more intense therapy program to help these young men to deal with their demons from their childhood? I hope they did and I hope they give recognition to Mr. Madden for opening their eyes and minds even more. May you rest in peace and glory for the short time you honored us with your presence here John Madden.
@@heatherjohnson5160 john madden from the documentary , who was in the direction to a good life and left prison . may he rest in peace . regards to his family .
@@CalamariProductions Thank you for telling us what happened... I wonder if him being medically DC from the military felt like a failure or something as he found so much worth in it. I know I've had my career detailed due to ill health and its been very difficult to deal with when you've spent so much time training and focusing on becoming this one thing as your identity for a career. I'm so sad he seemed to have to much insight and was well respected.
Good program,great idea to help these kids become. Something! Glad I found your channel! Thanks for what you do!
Always watch this Chanel my favorite u are the best in what u do very educational
@Cynthia david - we always appreciate your viewership and your taking the time to comment! Hope you're having a great Wednesday!
R.i.p John fly 🕊️ high
incredible video Calamari Productions. I smashed that thumbs up on your video. Continue to keep up the outstanding work.
😢JOHN DIED FROM A SELF-INFLICTED GUNSHOT WOUND IN 2020 AT THE AGE OF 30...
RIP JOHN 🙏 🕊 ☮ 😢✌🇺🇲 YOU ARE MISS.. GOD-BLESS HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS...
WITH LOTS OF LOVE ALL THE WAY FROM INDIANAPOLIS,INDIANA ❤
you know this for a fact and truth ?
@@stigtuneback1966 It's on screen at the end of this video.
These kids don't understand when you say "you're here because of you" and "it's your fault and nobody else".
Wow I wasn't expecting that! God bless you John you made so many people proud. God bless all of those people in Pendleton that helped and believed in him ❤
When I was stationed at Fort Stewart Georgia in the mid-90s they used to bring the boot camp kids on to the post to run the obstacle course. One day I went up to the shoppette and all the bootcamp kids were lined up outside. They were being allowed into the store in small groups to buy personal hygiene items and things like that. I went inside and made my purchase. I walked outside with a case of beer on each shoulder and walked over to my brand new car, that I had just bought the week prior, it still had the paper dealers plate on it, and put the beer in my car. I turned around and all the kids that were still sitting outside were watching me. I'm sure some of them like to do some underage drinking before they got sentenced to the program. And their drill instructor said "Take a good look gentleman you see that nice ride and that cold beer? That's what doing the right thing and staying out of trouble gets you."
People fail to realize for some of these kids it’s not just “lack of discipline” or them needing to “grow up” - for some, it’s their environment like growing up with absent parents/addicted parents/abusive or neglectful parents or parents who constantly go in/out of jail themselves with no family members or village to relate to, or help guide them in the right direction a crucial times in their lives. Their minds are still developing at these ages, along with the hormonal changes, & they’ve gone without learning how to properly process their emotions (impulse control, anger, etc), which is what the counselors are there trying to help them accomplish. A lot of these boys are really just seeking acceptance & trying to fit in anywhere they can, even if it’s with the criminal, gang, or prison crowd.
Good kid with a lot of hope! Sincerely touched my heart.
What were his medical reasons?
Probably mental health reasons because he lost his life to suicide at a later date.
Holy crap! I was really rooting for John. Dammit. :’(
@Sriacha Hero - We were too. As we commented on another post, he had been doing well as an adult and was in college at the time of his death. We were all shocked by the news. Gone far too soon. :(
@@CalamariProductions was it an accident or really suicide?
This military program is wonderful and need more Maybe something will change of sending these young men back into bad neighborhoods for a month before going to boot camp. A halfway house or something. My condolences to John's family and friends . RIP John.
That is so sad about John. Heartbreaking.
You don’t meet aggression with aggression that’s for sure but on the other hand some ppl are beyond repair & it starts from childhood
Madden was so dependent upon being in the military having to be discharged led to his suicide!
No one “likes” to be angry. It’s stemmed from some sort of trauma. He just didn’t wanna remember that trauma.
The kid clearly put in the work. Turned his life around. And then to hear he took his own life? Ugh. That’s sad.
God bless the Vietnam vet for what he’s doing to help rehabilitate these troubled kids ❤
He was very well respected by all. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I really wish every juvenile prison had this program...kids need structure...positive structure...and these kids need family...families that will give unconditional support...I truly believe these programs make these kids better and even the kids that want to get in to the program makes them reach for higher standards...and these programs make them give back to their country and community
I was actually locked up with John Madden for a few months like 20 years ago when we were kids… that’s super sad to see that he had so much potential and then killed himself… I’ll never forget him! RIP John Madden
I really hoped he would make it rip 🙏
The life ring that John so valiantly embraced dissolved before his eyes. The military gave him a reason to change and grow. Being medically discharged casts a broad net. He may have sustained an injury, encountered a genetic deficiency, or mental illness that was undiagnosed or under treated. With the driving force behind his desire to change gone, he probably perceived that the only way to survive was through the old ways that landed him in corrections in the first place. Rising above that, yet seeing it as the only option, had to be disheartening. I understand his suicide. What he needed, and perhaps had, was a case worker that was able to make weekly contact. Note: Not an officer of the court, or anyone that can hold jail time over his head. If I was John’s case manager, I would guide him towards an physical and organized career. Off the top of my head, a position within the Forest Service. I taught rock climbing, kayaking, rafting.
Couldn't the navy have given him a position that would accommodate his situation?? He wanted a military career more than anything. It's so tragic!! Wish he got the chance to meet you after his d/c.
These programs are for these kids are good but these kids have to want to work and work hard to change their perpesctive in life and they are the onlys that can do this
I cried for John. Taking your own life is not an easy decision, and sometimes life weighs heavily enough that it breaks the toughest of people. He did exactly what he said he would do, he changed, he changed his life, his situation and his attitude.
Rest in peace, John!
Thank you calamari productions your video's are motivating and helpful hope all these kids even though adults 12 years later
Great program!!
@brianoakes8930 - Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Been watching this Chanel from day one and will continue to watch this
Its so sad the key is rehabilitation and alot of these kids either are able to get out and go the right path or back into the old ways and continue their old ways into the adult prison and the the word rehabilation is out the window the parole boards should be abolished all together its a big joke
People on here are sounding like they sympathize with the kids. They are criminals. Hold your tears for someone worth it
I think getting to the military life was all John knew. The structure, the discipline. When it was taken out of his hands for medical reasons. It broke him of all he believed he was worth.
John you are an inspiration to many and always will be.
Thank you
@aprilcook919 - Appreciate you watching John's story. Sadly, his mental health issues from an early age were never properly addressed, and those issues followed him throughout his life. He had seemingly been doing well prior to taking his own life. It just proves we never really know the internal struggles that so many people deal with. Sad.
😭😭😭the end hit me hard man
Yep me too 😭 It felt like a full punch to the gut reading that final line onscreen.
When y'all say military exam, do you mean the ASVAB? I took it my sophomore year in high school and was thrilled with my results. In my opinion, it's a great exam that is more indicative of one's aptitudes and weaknesses than other exams.
@AlphaMom55 - Yes, it was the ASVAB. Appreciate you commenting!
Finally did good on a test lol of course you think it’s just so great
I'd would disagree with that being I took that test twice in the 1980s and came up with different results each time. It doesn't show someone aptitudes. Tests rarely show that to be honest.
Pendleton is a nice quiet little town, grew up there right down the road from this place and the adult prison.
I need this program for my kids now
The school-to-prison-to-military pipeline.
Thanku for these videos u do a good job of letting us see what goes on inside the walls of prison like to c more updated videos thanku
Back in the 70s I was on the streets at 14 and never had a good mom or dad. 5 step dads beat and molested me. Mom a crackhead stripper. In our younger years we could rally get away with all kids of trouble. At 18 we get a clean slate. I still had plenty of jail time but now a days kids don’t really have a chance to redeem themselves. Nice to see a program they can succeed and make a better life. Lucky for me I met my wife at 18 and she had twins boys. We got married and now 35 years later we have a great life with our kids and grandkids. Sadly today kids are behind the 8 ball.
I was in that prison and also in the military program like 15 years ago😅 once you turn 21 they just walk you across the street to the adult prison theirs like 3 prison in that area
Hope life on the outside is good and everything is going well for you man 👍🏻
God bless his heart. I’m so, so sorry that John Madden was unable to let go of his past issues & took his own life. His story was one of HOPE that he seemed to overcome. It’s heartbreaking.
I truly hope that this story hits hard at so many parents of today. When horrible things are inflicted on children in their formative years, its next to impossible for that child to overcome & let go of. Abuse in ANY form, verbal, emotional, physical, neglect is simply unacceptable for parents or anyone else to visit on an innocent child. Think of how hard it is, as an adult, to make permanent positive changes in lifestyle or attitude. Then calculate how much harder it is for children, pre teens, then teenagers that don’t have the years of life experience that an adult has. When you have a child, your needs & wants become secondary- to me, I have a hard time wrapping my head around a parent that does not understand or believe this! A child absolutely needs love, time, attention and a simple kind living environment in order to have a CHANCE to thrive. Some kids that have all the love in the world will still make bad decisions. How did I come to these conclusions? I’ve lived it. I’m a widow now raising one of my grandkids. I pray every day, multiple times, that I will be enough of a parent for this grandchild to overcome the many things that were unfairly visited on her. I pray I got her in time to overcome all she has been through. Some parents think they have a choice to just “opt out” of parenting a child when the child misbehaves, or is challenging. I’m not trying to over generalize this opinion. I simply see this happening far too often. 🙏
The sad thing about it when your released of jail prison your stuck in the system
Every state needs a Supt. Dempsey, he’s an amazing human!
Rip John What a travesty💔
RIP John :(
Yessss! 💗
@Ash & Emi - Yes back atcha! :)
You wanna know the most terrifying thing about it?? Kids are getting worse and worse and worse and worse these days. It's sad.
So many people should never be parents.
RIP J.M.! ❤❤
I myself was in a similar jail as a teen from 14 to 18 years old. Once I was released, I got a job there the next week as a CO.
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i would guarantee if as many people would have reached out to john personally as have said nice things about him here, he would still be alive. let that be a reminder to all of you if you think you cant make a difference in someones life.
I think this Future Soldiers Programme is an excellent opportunity for these boys. It gives them what their parents should have given them. It gives them focus but most of all a sense of belonging and hope. Just a shame there's only a few places
@janemorgan5584 - appreciate your comments. So many of the kids told us the Future Soldiers program gave them the structure they needed. It was often the structure they missed on the outside. The key is trying to find ways to implement some sort of structure once they're released. It's always a massive challenge, especially if kids have no support system once they're out. Again, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
Dude's named after a legend......John Madden. Live up to the name kid.......👍🏻
I know that since my son was little has been a handful when I'm around but better behaved with others. I wonder if that helps these kids to not be around family so they behave a little better.
I remember this episode of lock up when it aired, I hope they do more update series to let us know where these kids are now
@NotADeadCat - We're working on it! We've also reuploaded some of our old interviews and added additional scenes, along with information at the end of the videos stating where the kids are today. We hope you'll check out these "Then & Now" videos but going to our home page or typing those words in the search bar. Thanks!
RIP John
💔 R.I.P John.
so happy to see that john got through all that... literally breaks my heart to see that he gave up on himself after that, seemed like such a good dude, wicked outgoing, such a fucking shame
Please don't say suicide is giving up on yourself. It doesn't nearly describe the utter hopelessness and isolation the person feels at the time where it is their only option. Of course I do not advocate it, but your sentence here sounds like blame and it is a tragic thing all around he felt this was his only option. Many people after not being able to do the career they've trained for many years or perfected get discharged/fired for medical reasons find it very difficult to find meaning in life when work is what gave them meaning and purpose. Especially very driven and goal oriented people.
And teach offenders how to distance themselves from their anger, which is a secondary emotion.
I cried my eyes out to read that John took his own life. My heart is broken 😭😭😭
i am glad to see some one like this i am drug adict i am trying my best to stop i wish i cohod have chans like him
You can do this! Stick at it, be strong, get yourself back on track & free from addiction. Life is so much better when you’re free. There’s always support & encouragement around so go seek it out to help make your journey a little bit easier. Good luck!
Keep going and pray just keep god in your life! Or some type of higher power and have hope that things will get better they can and will turn around one day! But you have to put in some type of work and take steps at least little ones to start.
I've never seen a cell extraction without the use of a shield by the first officer in. Seems strange to me.
@Eric S - Interesting. Never realized that. This was the first cell extraction we ever filmed so we had no previous knowledge of how things usually worked. Appreciate your insight.
juveniles are dangerous but not that dangerous…
@@mikehunt368 your underestimation of them is as dangerous as anything.
@@AlphaMom55 yea that’s pretty alarming😂
R.I.P John. No more demons brother ❤
@Red.OG. - Appreciate you watching his story. It's an important one.