What about the gems?? I replaced mine with cut and polished rubies. You should be able to find enough for only $600 or so. I saved a few dollars by buying mine at the same time I upgraded the bits in my copy of Diamonds.
Finally managed to get my hands on a Broken Token insert (specifically one for Scythe) because while I'm not going to pay import taxes on one, they were sharing a booth with a retailer at UKGE. Looking forward to making that game take sufficiently little time to set up thanks to that that I don't feel compelled to only get it out if I think I'll be able to get a couple of games of it in before putting it away again.
That is a great question. I will pack my insert with all the component upgrades, take some pictures, and post a link for everyone to see. I'll post another comment here with that link later, once I have it posted. :)
They could. But Cave vs Cave suffers from providing only one of each type for the player, and a track to count your supply. So for CvC, just having 10 physical pieces of stone is better than moving a single stone up and down the track. Since CvC has supply limits as part of the rules (max 19 gold, max 9 for everything else) It meant buying 20 (or 40) of everything. photos.app.goo.gl/gP62td9E0FAStDp53 The original pieces are in the lower center of the box. Everything else came from The Game Crafter.
I love upgrading game components (looking at you, Stone Age), but I think the components in Caverna are of a great quality. The only thing I upgraded in Caverna was to remove the dinky first player pawn and replace it with a large, yellow pawn that Ii painted myself.
Nice video Chaz! Although you seem to have missed the most obvious upgrade... actual meeples instead of the round discs. I've played with a set that includes the mum, dad and child meeples and it was simple but really enhanced the game for me!
Hey Chaz, I am curious, I am a hobbyist board designer and I noticed you found a few building alternatives to what comes with Caverna. Have you ever found a pack of "Settlers" villages (not the cites that look more like churches) in bulk? I have found a brand that give all sorts of wooden pieces on Amazon, but when you count out the number of each individual component, it only has two villages per package. Please let me know if you are familiar with any alternative - short of buying a used game like Kingdom Builder.
Yeah, that is one component that's hard to find good replacements for without breaking either the theme, bank, or both. The closest is getting some furniture button plugs that kinda look like a wide stemmed mushroom or a hut with a domed top. A bit easy to grasp, but depending on how grainy or toned they are you might need to prime them before painting the desired color (though with caverna you can get away with just clear coating one color if you don't mind that much color variance between your naturals). Of course, the other caveat is that you have to paint or dye them yourself. Game Crafter and Print and Play productions both have their own sets of buildings, but you'll have to go plastic if you don't want to use the Catan Settlements that they provide. Also, GC has a big turn around time and PNPP requires a minimum 12 dollar order before they can even process the order. So, yeah, dunno why it's so hard to find board game sized houses outside of pillaging them from thrift store games (and good luck with that too with them not being that prevalent)
Kinda, but I dunno if you really need to have color different components for Barns/Sheds. (only played Agricola 2nd edition once). I can see how you can do a single color shed for each player while not breaking it (each player takes the proper amount originally and puts it aside of their playerboard)
It does not have to be an upgrade component for Agricola or Caverna specifically. I am just looking for bulk wooden villages to use in games I am designing. Fantasy Flight has these package, www.amazon.com/dp/1616610344/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=IN7UEDPTYJCYD&colid=TY2R57DBVRIM , but they only have a few houses. There is a whole lot of houses in the Kingdom Builder game . www.amazon.com/Queen-Games-QUG60833-Kingdom-Builder/dp/B005COHOM6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496279731&sr=8-1&keywords=kingdom+builder But if I like a game, I don't want to remove the pieces. I found some very cool huts and towers from World of Warcraft Monopoly: www.amazon.com/dp/B0079PC0EI/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I18UYUCI5K4LIH&colid=TY2R57DBVRIM And, they have stackable buildings in Zynga Cityville Monopoly www.amazon.com/dp/B009ERZD6G/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=IR2DK8BBI90GK&colid=TY2R57DBVRIM but I would not be able to use either Monopoly sets in my own games as they are proprietary components from Hasbro. Unless I am wrong, the wooden villages are not proprietary.
Actually, thanks in large part to PoDP's supporters and some side projects, a long-awaited camera upgrade is finally on the way! :D (And, yes, I made sure that the new camera will have a manual focus option.)
This video was just wrong on so many levels. I get the need for a proper inlay and sleeves and I totally agree that those coins are a super sweet addition to the imersion of this game. But why would you want to get rid of perfectly fine wooden tokens in favor of that crudely painted plastic shit, that looks like it was spray painted by Chinese kids in a sweat shop? And how are human cities from various cultures, as well as industrial buildings, supposed to be a thematic fit for dwarfen buildings? This is just utter and complete rubbish and in no way, shape or form an improvement on the existing components
What about the gems?? I replaced mine with cut and polished rubies. You should be able to find enough for only $600 or so. I saved a few dollars by buying mine at the same time I upgraded the bits in my copy of Diamonds.
This was the most phenomenal Component Proponent thus far.
And I'm a seriously serious Component Proponent fan.
Well played, Mr. Marler. Well played.
Finally managed to get my hands on a Broken Token insert (specifically one for Scythe) because while I'm not going to pay import taxes on one, they were sharing a booth with a retailer at UKGE. Looking forward to making that game take sufficiently little time to set up thanks to that that I don't feel compelled to only get it out if I think I'll be able to get a couple of games of it in before putting it away again.
Out of curiosity, how well do the other upgrades interact with (ie. fit in) the Broken Token upgrade?
That is a great question. I will pack my insert with all the component upgrades, take some pictures, and post a link for everyone to see. I'll post another comment here with that link later, once I have it posted. :)
PairOfDice Paradise
Any update on this one?
Update?
would the wooden insert made the whole package even heavier?
Also, pigs and boar can mate. Therefore, your upgrade holds even more weight.
What about the custom game pieces made from depleted uranium? I didn't see them in the video...
This looks like a nice way to upgrade Cave vs Cave.
Good point! I hope some of the suggestions made in this video could be applied to Cave Vs Cave as well. 👍
They could. But Cave vs Cave suffers from providing only one of each type for the player, and a track to count your supply. So for CvC, just having 10 physical pieces of stone is better than moving a single stone up and down the track.
Since CvC has supply limits as part of the rules (max 19 gold, max 9 for everything else) It meant buying 20 (or 40) of everything.
photos.app.goo.gl/gP62td9E0FAStDp53
The original pieces are in the lower center of the box. Everything else came from The Game Crafter.
Where do we get those coins? Or similar?
I click on "Subtitle" picture but it shows Dutch language (Auto). What's wrong?
I love upgrading game components (looking at you, Stone Age), but I think the components in Caverna are of a great quality. The only thing I upgraded in Caverna was to remove the dinky first player pawn and replace it with a large, yellow pawn that Ii painted myself.
I love board game upgrades. Thank you for this video! However, a price list at the end would help people get real too, I believe 😊
Nice video Chaz! Although you seem to have missed the most obvious upgrade... actual meeples instead of the round discs. I've played with a set that includes the mum, dad and child meeples and it was simple but really enhanced the game for me!
How do you track their levels?
Heh,,, still always love that "Wooo!" at the end of the Component Proponent intro song. ;-)
You forgot the dwarfs?
You forgot to be nice?
Hey Chaz, I am curious, I am a hobbyist board designer and I noticed you found a few building alternatives to what comes with Caverna. Have you ever found a pack of "Settlers" villages (not the cites that look more like churches) in bulk? I have found a brand that give all sorts of wooden pieces on Amazon, but when you count out the number of each individual component, it only has two villages per package. Please let me know if you are familiar with any alternative - short of buying a used game like Kingdom Builder.
Yeah, that is one component that's hard to find good replacements for without breaking either the theme, bank, or both. The closest is getting some furniture button plugs that kinda look like a wide stemmed mushroom or a hut with a domed top. A bit easy to grasp, but depending on how grainy or toned they are you might need to prime them before painting the desired color (though with caverna you can get away with just clear coating one color if you don't mind that much color variance between your naturals). Of course, the other caveat is that you have to paint or dye them yourself. Game Crafter and Print and Play productions both have their own sets of buildings, but you'll have to go plastic if you don't want to use the Catan Settlements that they provide. Also, GC has a big turn around time and PNPP requires a minimum 12 dollar order before they can even process the order. So, yeah, dunno why it's so hard to find board game sized houses outside of pillaging them from thrift store games (and good luck with that too with them not being that prevalent)
Is this www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=BrownFincaBuildings or this www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=DeusTemples helpful?
Kinda, but I dunno if you really need to have color different components for Barns/Sheds. (only played Agricola 2nd edition once). I can see how you can do a single color shed for each player while not breaking it (each player takes the proper amount originally and puts it aside of their playerboard)
It does not have to be an upgrade component for Agricola or Caverna specifically. I am just looking for bulk wooden villages to use in games I am designing.
Fantasy Flight has these package, www.amazon.com/dp/1616610344/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=IN7UEDPTYJCYD&colid=TY2R57DBVRIM , but they only have a few houses.
There is a whole lot of houses in the Kingdom Builder game . www.amazon.com/Queen-Games-QUG60833-Kingdom-Builder/dp/B005COHOM6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496279731&sr=8-1&keywords=kingdom+builder
But if I like a game, I don't want to remove the pieces.
I found some very cool huts and towers from World of Warcraft Monopoly: www.amazon.com/dp/B0079PC0EI/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I18UYUCI5K4LIH&colid=TY2R57DBVRIM
And, they have stackable buildings in Zynga Cityville Monopoly
www.amazon.com/dp/B009ERZD6G/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=IR2DK8BBI90GK&colid=TY2R57DBVRIM
but I would not be able to use either Monopoly sets in my own games as they are proprietary components from Hasbro. Unless I am wrong, the wooden villages are not proprietary.
Thank you Tupiaz, I had not seen these before.
What you really need to upgrade is your camera ;D And don't forget to pick one where you can disable auto-focus.
Actually, thanks in large part to PoDP's supporters and some side projects, a long-awaited camera upgrade is finally on the way! :D (And, yes, I made sure that the new camera will have a manual focus option.)
The wooden components are much better than those ugly animal upgrades.
39$ just for the insert? Thanks no.
Upgrading makes board games into toys.
This video was just wrong on so many levels. I get the need for a proper inlay and sleeves and I totally agree that those coins are a super sweet addition to the imersion of this game. But why would you want to get rid of perfectly fine wooden tokens in favor of that crudely painted plastic shit, that looks like it was spray painted by Chinese kids in a sweat shop? And how are human cities from various cultures, as well as industrial buildings, supposed to be a thematic fit for dwarfen buildings? This is just utter and complete rubbish and in no way, shape or form an improvement on the existing components
The crudely painted plastic shit is also 120 bucks haha