The economy is looking so bleak, Mark has even downsized from Patagonia to Kirkland.. true sign of the times. That said, he and Jack then rebounded in their standard P-Gear to show that the economy will in fact recover eventually. Genius play, there.
We tried out one of these earlier in the year and I really loved the thing for a people hauler. Very comfortable and I felt like it had decent power for what it was. Tons of room. The dipshit dealer tacked on $12,000 as a market adjustment so we just laughed at them and left.
Right now, I'm driving the Kia Telluride. i can tell you i love this car for my family. in 4 more year when my lease is up I will be getting Palisade for sure, since I really don't like the face change of telluride. (I hope they can come out with a hybrid version.)
Hyundai and Genesis are class leaders they've really turned that company around it's amazing! My only beef though and it's a deal-breaker is that there should be no naturally aspirated engines anymore, they should all be hybrids, heck even all the super cars do it. Why would anyone get a car with 22 miles per gallon on the highway, wtf, that should be illegal. The fact we have to choose between all gas or all electric and it's not a hybrid combination which gets the best of both worlds, way better gas mileage and you don't have range anxiety, is beyond me I feel like I'm living in some parallel universe where the voice of reason is absent. Oh btw, I have a 2015 Genesis Sedan naturally aspirated V8, like 430 horse, and I get almost 29 mpg on the highway.
We will be 3 years into our 2020 come January mainly based on your first review. No issues, wife still loves it, does everything well. The interior is still perfect even with kids. Our dealer experience was perfect and service has been great.
@@Mr21scott Try the same thing with a German vehicle, and then watch the fanbois make the excuse for the random broken bits that "they weren't maintained properly". The reliability of these things is quite solid.
@@johnnybravo5044 a family member had his engine grenade in a 2012 Sonata. Just out of warranty and they STILL replaced it. I think it’s like any brand- gotta do the research and buy from reputable dealer with good reviews. Reward those who do the right thing and keep business away from the crappy ones
Mid range cars keep getting remarkably better, at least when it comes to interior design and usability. Comparing this interior with the latest from Mercedes, even though the Mercedes has (arguably) better materials, the all-touch and piano black looks and feels tacky, dated and crowded. It is weird to see this happening and progressing.
Yeah maybe luxury cars were worthwhile in the 90s, but now they really seem like just status symbols. Plus they used to last longer, and now they're going the opposite extreme
The german luxury market has been ignoring their consumers for a good decade now. It’s starting to show and now Jack can’t even argue with it as a german fanboy.
I feel the same way. The other thing is every lower end luxury car and SUV (c-e class, 3-5 series, q5-q7, etc.) is pretty much all plastic, vinyl, piano black and touch screens, if you pay for the add-ons. They don't feel expensive at all and even their wood or carbon Fibre looks as fake as any other, and they feel like hard plastic. They don't seem to care about expensive materials until you get well over 100k with the S class/7 series/A8 and even those start with lots of piano black and hard surfaces all over, and you need to option out the nice features and materials. Hyundai and Kia vehicles are pretty close now for way less money, if we're not talking high performance
All the unreliable gimmicks in luxury cars is definitely tiring! Things like this that execute a usable impressive interior is something that I wish more cars would do. Having a stupid red light strip flashing when you turn up the temperature in a Mercedes is worthless tech that will just break or look stupid in a few years as technology advances.
I have been looking at purchasing a Caligraphy for a year now and no local dealers have them in stock. If they do list one it's $2k over the $52k sticker price. I'd be dumb to pay full sticker and extra dumb to pay $2k over that for "market adjustment". So my wife will continue to drive her 2013 three row Santa Fe Limited until then. Very satisfied with the car owned since new, now has 140k miles. Thanks for the honest review!
Not sure where you're at, but here in Atlanta every single Calligraphy model in 100 mile radius has $5k+ markup. Even more amazingly, most of those are presold. I know this because I was very much shopping for one last week.
My brother came from last gen audi q7 to this palisade recently. It is a brilliant car altogether. It is not as dynamic and exciting as an audi but for a family who goes on road trips every other weekend this is the best car you can get for the price point. Seats are one of the best in class as well. Comfy for long trips.
There’s a Hyundai dealer in Madison Wisconsin that’s charging $5000 over MSRP for these vehicles. Anybody that pays over MSRP is a fool. These dealerships should be boycotted.
Disagree about the sound system. Sure, it is not Mercedes Burmester levels, but it is pretty good for the price. About equal to any other upgraded sound system in a mainstream car
The Sorento, Sportage and Tucson and others in that class are all considerably smaller than the Palisade. A 1.6T gas engine might not be enough for the Palisade, in which case the limiting factor is that Hyundai / Kia do not currently have a 2L or 2.5L P/HEV system. Additionally, putting a hybrid drivetrain means sacrificing the 5000lbs towing capacity, which I think is one of the selling points of the Palisade
Well, some kind of hybrid would be nice, and I'm sure when these come up for a full redesign that will be considered. Just dropping in the hybrid powertrain they use in smaller vehicles would be iffy.
Hyunda makes a hauler good enough to compensate for their dealer experience. Edit: I'm leaving the Hyunda typo as aspirational for Hyundai to be conflated with Honda
@@BigBrotherMars I own an Elantra N and my dad owns a 2017 Tucson. Both cars work and drive great for their intended purpose… but MY god, every SINGLE dealer experience we both have is terrible. When I had my first oil change, I had to make the advisor print off a new work order cause the one her printed had the wrong kind of oil on it… it’s just oversight after oversight. I have worked in many dealerships and currently sell cars at a dealership. If I provided an experience anything close to my sales rep for my Elantra, I would be fired instantly.
@@adamhinckley5062 maybe they put the wrong oil not just printed paperwork wrong? Bmw did that to me and then admitted mistake and changed it to correct one..
Hilarious how many comments read one bad thing about a brand, don't listen to the review, and make blanket statements. I guess it's the internet, so people gotta hate, but I say thank goodness a brand is upping the game, making these "family haulers" better than both the cookie cutters AND the lux brands 👍
I almost feel like there is a crew of bots fed by Crypto who come out full force for the Kia and Hyundai videos. It's the only brand that this happens with.
@@savagegeese I can speak from my experience where about 10yrs ago when the i30 was released I test drove one based on 5/5 reviews. It turned out the cabin was uncomfrotably loud at highway speeds something which the reviews didn't mention. I had a feeling Hyundai pushed the narratives their cars are 'great cars', good value for money where as a matter of fact a used luxury drive was a better buy. In this case we bought a 3yrs old 118i and the car had better build quality, fuel economy, technology and drive than the Hyunday. They used to compete on price, maybe they are starting to compete on quality but I think that is what some people are reacting to.
Hyundai has completely left the Honda Pilot behind. The first gen did and this 2nd gen does compared to the new 2023 Pilot. I’m a 19 Pilot owner and it’s borderline embarrassing at how Honda has let down the Pilot.
I think your audio standards are a little higher than the layperson. I think the audio is more than adequate, it's not stellar but it's so much better than the stereo in my base model Stinger GT.
Compared to Acura, Volvo, and Toyota it's not good. The other issue is you don't engineer to low standards otherwise this is what you get. Zero tolerance for that.
@@savagegeese Acura and Volvo are much better yes, but I don't think Toyota's JBL system sounds better than this. The key with this Harman Kardon system is lowering the mids and moving the centerpoint back a couple of points
Spot on review. We've had our 23 Calligraphy since August and agree with all. It's certainly not dynamic, but heavy on the comfort, luxury and convenience.
Audiophile here with a Palisade, its not 'crap sounding' its 'weak as hell' there is no dynamic range, frankly its woefully quiet and underpowered. Wife's car tho! :) It sounds ok if it were in a home, but in an auto application (the worst possible audio environment) it is trash.
@@MrHazz0 What does 'weak' have to do with dynamic range, which is a ratio? A ratio btw heavily dependent on what you're actually listening to even within the technical boundaries of the equipment. This argument about 'trash' sound based on harman curves etc in mass produced tire roaring, wind buffeting midrange family haulers is as nonsensical as taking them extreme offroading and complaining about overheated transmissions. Moot point.
@@outermarker5801I must agree with Goose on this subject. We drove the Palisade as well as were driven in a friends Palisade and the sound quality was simply “flat.” No depth nor clarity. Many do not care and that is fine but the sound quality is simply missing.
Picked up one of these up about 5 weeks ago in the same trim. The good definitely outweighs the bad. Sure it looks like you can grate a large block of cheese on the grill, but the interior is a big selling point. The dash layout, materials, and presence of physical buttons is fantastic. I like that you can steady your hand on the dash while using the touch screen....it makes all the difference in the world for usability. Could not justify the added cost of something at a comparable trim level for example, a Jeep Grand Cherokee L that has piano black trim on all of the touch points. The overall size is perfect as it fits in a regular sized garage, unlike full size SUV's. Road trips are really comfortable in the first two rows and the driving aids work much better that what I've experienced in our 2019 Pilot. Heated out board seats in all 3 rows, ventilated in the first two rows. Pretty good bang for the buck. Hoping the reliability is there...
Has been out for 3 years with no problems so you have a safe buy. Only the engine is pretty oil thirsty so change oil at shorter intervals than manual.
I watched 17 G90 review and bought it. Absolutely loved it for past 3 years, then now I watched this video, got me the 23 calligraphy palisade and I love it. I have decent Highway commute, I am very satisfied
we looked into this vehicle... and hate to say it Hyundai is no longer a cheaper option anymore.. Dealers know people come over there thinking they are going to get a better deal than other brands but bang people over the head with pricing or finance deals so you end up spending more... I chose the Nissan Pathfinder over this ... we got a much better deal with similar options and space and felt the driving experience is much better....
@@mark8684 unless someone is driving a ton of miles i lease these piles....and get rid of them before warranty is up.. ... if one wants to buy these piles out right then I would buy the "facorty brand" extended warranty. Not aftermarket warrenty which will save u a ton of money long term. Like most... for my daily I am at the point of my life that I don't want to worry if its going to start in the moring and the fact that all cars have gotten so complicated and treat it like a appliancebecuase the prices of cars have gone up so much to buy new it's not worth keeping them... past 3-5 years becuase when shit goes wrong it gets expense quick ...
6 cylinder Direct injection could lead up to carbon build up. 🤔 Akins cycle. High compression. Old school. Oil cap says 5w30 not common anymore. No hydraulic lifters, so in cold weather it's loud. Theme under the hood. Underneath. Steel oil pan Good Idea. Oil filter housing is plastic which is not good. Suspension: good design McPherson struts. Flex pipes leak. Exhaust weld: not good Insulation not good No insulation in middle section of car so VERY NOISY Rear shock is large
I’m glad there’s a reviewer that’s honest, Hyundai/Kia has come a long way, but some of the cars are overly gaudy and in your face! But I would admit the Palisade and Santa Fe looks stylish without being offensive like other Korean models.
Hyundai and Kias HDA & HDA2 is top of the class but they're not going to do the job correctly/comfortably if you're speeding. If the speed limit I'd 65, and you're doing 90... you should expect the vehicle doesn't perform in that environment as well by itself. Driving with the EV6 going the speed limit to and from work everyday has been basically effortless even with some broken up/choppy line work (Pennsylvania trademark). But speed limit does matter. Coming up to a bend rated to be taken at 55mph is gonna look way different to the computer than if you were trying to do the same at 75mph.
I had a 2011 Outback that was souless. It was like driving Dad's buick, but didn't ride as well. I bought a 2017 Escape AWD 2.0, and love it! My wife has an '18 Santa Fe Ultimate, which is a nice car too, but I prefer the Ford, as it's an appliance with spirit. It is a shame the Hyundai/Kia stealerships are so bad. Have had to go back 3 times for oil changes as they do not replace the filters!
Guessing this thing has Push-Button Start so the KIA Boys can't steal it ridiculously easily. But why does it have paddle shifters? That's like a hair care company putting out a major line of products designed only for bald men. Makes about as much sense.
Well done guys. Boring isn’t necessarily a bad thing. My 540i is a fun car to drive. This would be a reasonably priced hauler for the grandkids. Will be a serious consideration for sure..
@@rolexhulk1774 I would go for the Honda Pilot without a second thought. It was just upgraded for 2023 so it has all the screens and toys inside, if you care about these things. Bulletproof reliability without sacrificing some fun of driving like you do with Toyota's. The sweet V6 v-tec, real tourqe vectoring AWD.
@@TermlessHGW good to hear. My wife likes the Acura counterpart - MDX. It's about 15K more than the Palisade though. I'll check out some videos on the Pilot. Thanks for the heads-up..
My wife refused to drive a mini van and prefer to drive a big suv. This car is perfect for people like that. People who buy these kind of cars are not into the way it drives. They are more into the luxury aspect of it and how many human beings they can squeeze in it for vacation trips or having kids so being a boring driving car is fine. I wont be seeing this car on a race track anytime soon. However, the only reason why hesitated to buy this car is that it is a Korean brand car. I always heard of the reliability of Kia and Huyndai. They are amazing doing luxury and you get huge bang for your buck but whats the point of having all that luxury when you be spending more time in an auto shop than on vacation? Thats why I hate owning Landrovers. Amazing luxury but a peace of trash.
"If you were in heavy traffic...like 80-75mph and you just want to turn off your brain..." Thanks for putting into words exactly what's wrong with American drivers today.
@@21Dimen From your reply, I can tell that you don’t work in the trades. Yes, every company does cost cutting but when you work on things on a daily basis you will notice poor engineering and/or craftsmanship. You mentioned Mercedes: I can show you a Mercedes that has a spout under the oil drain plug so you don’t get oil everywhere. It’s the attention to detail that you notice and appreciate. With that said; sloppy wields on the exhaust pipe shows the lack of care when a good wield doesn’t cost more.
@@Nitroscion Yet they’re prone to having the most issues. Please. I’ve been in. Many mercedes and they all creaked inside. The plastics do not hold well.
Aside from the exaggeration about the sound system (c'mon dude, this sound system is going to be fine for 99% of the people out there), pretty fair assessment. The usual harping about the dealer experience. I went to my local Hyundai dealership and was really impressed with the test drive and sales people... There are douchebag sales reps at EVERY dealership for ANY brand...
True. I bought a Genesis G70 earlier this year at a combined Hyundai/Genesis dealer in SoCal, and so far, the dealership experience has been surprisingly not bad, but then I am not coming from a luxury brand on my before vehicles. Anyhoo. . . . . pleasant salesmen and finance guys, fair value on my trade-in, and a Great service manager so far. Maybe I've been lucky, or maybe I just had low expectations anyway. . . .
@@blueshark3098 Nice and thanks for sharing. Went to my local Genny dealership and was REALLY impressed at the service I received. I spoke with the GM and the saleswoman was really professional and thoughtful. She let me open the GV70 up on a straight road.. It's as good as the best experience I've had at other dealerships..
No one does reviews like you gentlemen. Simply what a review should be. I drive a 2021 Santa Fe Calligraphy. In essence, it is just like this Palisade except it cost a bit less, gets 24 mpg and handles quite well.
Hyundai and Kia Will Lose $2 Billion on Fixing Bad Engines This Quarter More than half of Hyundai's Q3 profit and three quarters of Kia's was provisioned to fix busted engines in 1.7 million cars globally. ByAdam Ismail PublishedOctober 18, 2022
I would be terrified to put my dogs and shithead kids inside that fancy ass interior. I daily a 2010 kicked to shit Honda Odyssey that I bought off Facebook marketplace for $4000 and when it dies or has too much vomit and spilled drinks in the back, I’ll scrap it and get another one. It’s fkn incredible.
Hands down, the 2020 Palisade we had was one of the best vehicles, dollars to quality, we've ever owned. People who are in the market and not cross-shopping these are hurting themselves. We only sold it because, in 2022, we were being offered in trade-in exactly what we had paid for it new two years and 20,000 miles earlier.
@@BigBrotherMars Real talk: In Q3 of 2022 alone, Kia lost 55% of their profits and Hyundai lost 77% of their profits due to warranty claims on their faulty and failing engines, $2 billion in total. Stay away from this brand and don’t buy into the hype.
My dad brought a '23 XRT AWD for $1100 under sticker. He loves it so far. Multiple round trips between Virginia and New York and it did extremely well. 5 people and luggage and it was smooth.
Thanks for reviewing guys…bummed about the stereo…was hoping it was better. Also wished you guys gave more detail on comparing it to the Telluride…I just don’t get how the Telluride gets all the attention and is in such short supply compared to the Palisade given they share roots…
@@SkeletalMisunderstanding I’ve driven both a few times…they do look different. Not sure it’s better. That’s personal preference, and I don’t think it’s lopsided. Rugged interior is also personal preference…some like that, others want more plush/luxury inside…I have a Wagoneer that doesn’t have side view mirrors that don’t fold in…not that big a deal and it’s a wider car. I do prefer a manual 3rd row…fewer things to break…Other than that, I though the Palisade was a smoother ride in the few different rides I took in it…my neighbor has one…
My turbo 4cyl 2020 RDX SH-AWD can't even manage 22MPG combined, so the small displacement engines aren't necessarily great for MPGs either. How Honda was able to make their engines so thirsty (the new 3.0T in their Type-S's are thirstier than some V8s) is beyond me.
@@ghoulbuster1 Well in theory the turbo+smaller capacity engine saves gas. If it doesn't it's a bad engine. That is part of the reason you pay more for German brands, their engines and drive trains have good power and good fuel economy. When corners are cut you see it in the fuel economy always.
@@TheChannel1978 Turbo engines are only fuel efficient if you drive them right at the efficiency peak, that's around the point the turbo spools up to max and makes the most torque. But if you go over that, it quickly starts consuming more gas because of how turbos work. If you drive a turbo engine at very high RPMs it can use more gas than a bigger displacement engine.
Wife got a Telluride last year after trying pretty much every option out there. She absolutely loves it and I loved not spending $20k more on a Tahoe or something. Optioned it out with most everything and it was still only $49-50k
Genuine question, aren't hyundai known for engine problems? I have owned a 2002 Sonata, which was the worst car ever, and rest all toyota. I don't have much xp with newer cars but all I hear about Hyundai/Kia is bad engines, even the newer ones
This looks amazing. The only improvements I'd like to see are an actual pano roof and the removable middle second row seat like the pilot/MDX. It's really hard to justify MDX/QX60 with this being so good and 10-15k less. Looking to get one of these this time next year (getting bent over by dealers is a concern).
@@naveenthemachine Maybe but my 2018 Honda odyssey is better to drive than my previous 2016 highlander. My 23 MDX Type S is better to drive than all three and the 2017 Cayenne it replaced.
@@dndodd100 sure but the MDX has a horrendous interior with piano black plastic and terrible ergonomics. Not fitting for a luxury marque when the new Pilot looks nicer inside.
The amount of made-up hate this gets from Japanese car fans AND American fans is hilarious. You see so many on the road - that means they are hated for making something good and competitive.
Yeah it's crazy how on every video about a Hyundai or Kia that gets praised, the Toyota fanboys will crawl out of their holes to shit on it based on their experience or knowledge of 10 year old Hyundais. No other brand gets as much shit on these videos since they're threatened that their favorite Japanese brand is starting to get overshadowed.
It’s a cold hard fact that Kia lost 55% of its profit and Hyundai 77% of their profit in Q3 of 2022 due to warranty claims on their failing engines. It cost them $2 billion in one quarter. This is not made up hate, LMFAO.
@moloono1 My brother in Christ, how is this relevant to the Palisade, which doesn't have any issues, and is getting a glowing recommendation from reviewers and owners.
I'm surprised that you only got 22-23 mpg on your highway road trip. I've been getting around 28-29 mpg with our 23 Calligraphy on the highway, and 22-23 in the city. In fact my close friend just got a 23 Highlander Hybrid and told me his first road trip with it he only got 29 mpg with cruise set to 82mph. Granted, I was averaging 75 mph in our Palisade, but for his hybrid Highlander to get the same MPG as our non-hybrid palisade while only going 7mph faster on the highway was shocking to me.
Hybrids are very efficient in the city, but because the engine runs more often on the hwy, the mpg is good, but not fantastic. That’s why the Highlander Hybrid is rated 35 city/35 hwy.
@@foxlake6750 correct, without frequent braking, the battery does not get as much charging and the electric motor cannot participate as much in moving the vehicle so the gas engine has to pick up the slack
Hyundai didn't know how big of a hit this would be! Definitely a lot of car for your money; features, warranty, looks, reliability etc. Can't even imagine how Hyundai will improve it for the 2nd generation lol
Such a huge difference in mpg on all highway between awd and fwd , i average 27 mpg on my 23 sel premium palisade. While i do agree the ride is boring tondrive , all highlanders for decades were branded the same , reliable and boring to drive with no comfort. One would just buy it for reliability. Comming from highlander and 4runner i definitely would take this boring palisade cruiser with comfort over my last 4runner and our 15 pilot. This palisade is truly a hidden gem. The HK system is straight garbage , that you are right about.
@@JDMSwervo2001 I looked at the palisade and the dealer wanted 5k over sticker and was using tactics that really concerned me. Definitely didn’t feel like you were buying a 50k car. Went and bought a MDX instead
I mean you're complaining its boring and putting you to sleep but that is why this is selling so damn well. Anyone who can get their hands on these is buying them with 20% dealer markups for that reason alone. Just get in, it drives, A to B, and you forget what you're driving and forget the car is a factor in you arriving at your destination
Yup. exactly. my sister just bought one of these. it's exactly the right vehicle for someone who wants to haul kids around in an appliance. Minus any markups tho (which suck)
@@notsodelusional they have one of lowest on lot rates of any new sold car. That means between the dealer receiving them and finding a buyer is super short. And as a result they mark em up as people are still buying them like mad
@@dontarguewithidiots7459 exactly. Reviewers tend to lose that focus, which is why these guys and AoA are the best imo, they actually talk about the actual buying demographic vs "oooo fancy screen"
The economy is looking so bleak, Mark has even downsized from Patagonia to Kirkland.. true sign of the times. That said, he and Jack then rebounded in their standard P-Gear to show that the economy will in fact recover eventually. Genius play, there.
can't beat dem $1.50 hotdogs
Kirkland > Patagonia
Savage Kirkland.
What you talking boutt
Are you kidding, who doesn’t love Kirkland brand! That was the best move on the entire video🎉😅
We tried out one of these earlier in the year and I really loved the thing for a people hauler. Very comfortable and I felt like it had decent power for what it was. Tons of room. The dipshit dealer tacked on $12,000 as a market adjustment so we just laughed at them and left.
$12,000. The robbing bastard, he should be wearing a balaclava.
12k?.... Huuuu tooo much.... How about Kia telluride? Did you go there?
Right now, I'm driving the Kia Telluride. i can tell you i love this car for my family. in 4 more year when my lease is up I will be getting Palisade for sure, since I really don't like the face change of telluride. (I hope they can come out with a hybrid version.)
How many do you pay for lease in the US and for how many km/miles a year?
I'm just interested, compared to the Netherlands/European market.
me too
Looks nice, probably will wait for the Genesis GV90.
buy gv 90
Hyundai and Genesis are class leaders they've really turned that company around it's amazing! My only beef though and it's a deal-breaker is that there should be no naturally aspirated engines anymore, they should all be hybrids, heck even all the super cars do it. Why would anyone get a car with 22 miles per gallon on the highway, wtf, that should be illegal. The fact we have to choose between all gas or all electric and it's not a hybrid combination which gets the best of both worlds, way better gas mileage and you don't have range anxiety, is beyond me I feel like I'm living in some parallel universe where the voice of reason is absent. Oh btw, I have a 2015 Genesis Sedan naturally aspirated V8, like 430 horse, and I get almost 29 mpg on the highway.
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Nice, kirkland signature 🤣 hoodie, this coming from a Costco fan.
We will be 3 years into our 2020 come January mainly based on your first review. No issues, wife still loves it, does everything well. The interior is still perfect even with kids. Our dealer experience was perfect and service has been great.
I'm curious if they really honor their warranty. A lot horror stories with Hyundai/KIA.
Wow, so your 3 year old car has had no issues - amazing. And yes, that is sarcasm.
@@Mr21scott Try the same thing with a German vehicle, and then watch the fanbois make the excuse for the random broken bits that "they weren't maintained properly". The reliability of these things is quite solid.
@@johnnybravo5044 a family member had his engine grenade in a 2012 Sonata. Just out of warranty and they STILL replaced it. I think it’s like any brand- gotta do the research and buy from reputable dealer with good reviews. Reward those who do the right thing and keep business away from the crappy ones
Mid range cars keep getting remarkably better, at least when it comes to interior design and usability. Comparing this interior with the latest from Mercedes, even though the Mercedes has (arguably) better materials, the all-touch and piano black looks and feels tacky, dated and crowded. It is weird to see this happening and progressing.
Yeah maybe luxury cars were worthwhile in the 90s, but now they really seem like just status symbols. Plus they used to last longer, and now they're going the opposite extreme
The german luxury market has been ignoring their consumers for a good decade now. It’s starting to show and now Jack can’t even argue with it as a german fanboy.
Its almost like mid range phones. Hurray for competition
I feel the same way. The other thing is every lower end luxury car and SUV (c-e class, 3-5 series, q5-q7, etc.) is pretty much all plastic, vinyl, piano black and touch screens, if you pay for the add-ons. They don't feel expensive at all and even their wood or carbon Fibre looks as fake as any other, and they feel like hard plastic. They don't seem to care about expensive materials until you get well over 100k with the S class/7 series/A8 and even those start with lots of piano black and hard surfaces all over, and you need to option out the nice features and materials. Hyundai and Kia vehicles are pretty close now for way less money, if we're not talking high performance
All the unreliable gimmicks in luxury cars is definitely tiring! Things like this that execute a usable impressive interior is something that I wish more cars would do. Having a stupid red light strip flashing when you turn up the temperature in a Mercedes is worthless tech that will just break or look stupid in a few years as technology advances.
They lowered the headlights so that you don't blind on-coming traffic? Now I'm going to have to get a light bar to do that 😄
I swear so many SUVs and trucks absolutely blind me while I drive. Wasn't sure if I'm just extra sensitive to the light or what
The Tellurides are horrible to meet oncoming absolutely blinding till your side mirror.
It absolutely doesn’t do anything to lessen the blinding of others. It actually looks like you have high beams on all the time.
I drive an A7 and everyone's headlamps are directly in my eyeline
@@tylerbetthauser7647 yep. My DD is a mustang, just learn to look away with all the trucks and SUVs in the PNW
I have been looking at purchasing a Caligraphy for a year now and no local dealers have them in stock. If they do list one it's $2k over the $52k sticker price. I'd be dumb to pay full sticker and extra dumb to pay $2k over that for "market adjustment". So my wife will continue to drive her 2013 three row Santa Fe Limited until then. Very satisfied with the car owned since new, now has 140k miles. Thanks for the honest review!
Not sure where you're at, but here in Atlanta every single Calligraphy model in 100 mile radius has $5k+ markup. Even more amazingly, most of those are presold. I know this because I was very much shopping for one last week.
My brother came from last gen audi q7 to this palisade recently. It is a brilliant car altogether. It is not as dynamic and exciting as an audi but for a family who goes on road trips every other weekend this is the best car you can get for the price point. Seats are one of the best in class as well. Comfy for long trips.
So "basically a bus" to drive with terrible fuel economy and a stereo you say is trash. You don't make it sound compelling.
There’s a Hyundai dealer in Madison Wisconsin that’s charging $5000 over MSRP for these vehicles. Anybody that pays over MSRP is a fool. These dealerships should be boycotted.
Even if you pay over MSRP you still get a better quality product than most. You still come out ahead
Kia and hyundai are garbage
MSRP is just a random number kicked by accountants at the car company, isnt it?
Disagree about the sound system. Sure, it is not Mercedes Burmester levels, but it is pretty good for the price. About equal to any other upgraded sound system in a mainstream car
It's odd. The Sorento, Sportage, Tuscon, and others have fantastic hybrid systems. It should be in the Palisade and Telluride. At least an option.
The Sorento, Sportage and Tucson and others in that class are all considerably smaller than the Palisade. A 1.6T gas engine might not be enough for the Palisade, in which case the limiting factor is that Hyundai / Kia do not currently have a 2L or 2.5L P/HEV system.
Additionally, putting a hybrid drivetrain means sacrificing the 5000lbs towing capacity, which I think is one of the selling points of the Palisade
Well, some kind of hybrid would be nice, and I'm sure when these come up for a full redesign that will be considered. Just dropping in the hybrid powertrain they use in smaller vehicles would be iffy.
@Pat Best That's what I was thinking. I should've been more clear. My bad lol
These HVAC controls are a breath of fresh air. Id love to see them on every car from now on. 🙏🙏🙏
Hyunda makes a hauler good enough to compensate for their dealer experience. Edit: I'm leaving the Hyunda typo as aspirational for Hyundai to be conflated with Honda
Depends how long you own this and how often you're at the dealership having it serviced 🧒 🔫
Also, to compensate for a small chance that it may start a fire and burn down your house if you park it in your garage
I'm out of the loop, what's up with Hyundai's sales/service experience?
@@BigBrotherMars I own an Elantra N and my dad owns a 2017 Tucson. Both cars work and drive great for their intended purpose… but MY god, every SINGLE dealer experience we both have is terrible. When I had my first oil change, I had to make the advisor print off a new work order cause the one her printed had the wrong kind of oil on it… it’s just oversight after oversight. I have worked in many dealerships and currently sell cars at a dealership. If I provided an experience anything close to my sales rep for my Elantra, I would be fired instantly.
@@adamhinckley5062 maybe they put the wrong oil not just printed paperwork wrong? Bmw did that to me and then admitted mistake and changed it to correct one..
And the price is the best part of this. It looks great all around. Great review
Look good until you look at the low quality mechanical components and having to agure with the dealership to honor the warranty.
Can confirm that the lower headlights will still burn your retinas out. One of these came around the corner last night and I was totally blinded.
Too bad you can't get this anywhere and dealership sales/service experience is brutal.
I'm out of the loop, what's up with Hyundai's sales/service experience?
@@BigBrotherMars Hyundai thinks they are selling Ferrari's
Hilarious how many comments read one bad thing about a brand, don't listen to the review, and make blanket statements.
I guess it's the internet, so people gotta hate, but I say thank goodness a brand is upping the game, making these "family haulers" better than both the cookie cutters AND the lux brands 👍
I almost feel like there is a crew of bots fed by Crypto who come out full force for the Kia and Hyundai videos. It's the only brand that this happens with.
Agreed.
@@savagegeese Agreed! So many bots saying things like “can’t wait to trade in my Cayenne for a Telluride!” 😂
@@savagegeese I can speak from my experience where about 10yrs ago when the i30 was released I test drove one based on 5/5 reviews. It turned out the cabin was uncomfrotably loud at highway speeds something which the reviews didn't mention. I had a feeling Hyundai pushed the narratives their cars are 'great cars', good value for money where as a matter of fact a used luxury drive was a better buy. In this case we bought a 3yrs old 118i and the car had better build quality, fuel economy, technology and drive than the Hyunday. They used to compete on price, maybe they are starting to compete on quality but I think that is what some people are reacting to.
The front is atrocious but the side profile makes up for it. I'd consider it if we needed a third row vehicle, it's definitely a good value.
Hyundai has completely left the Honda Pilot behind. The first gen did and this 2nd gen does compared to the new 2023 Pilot. I’m a 19 Pilot owner and it’s borderline embarrassing at how Honda has let down the Pilot.
Yes, and the new 23 Pilot is overpriced as well!
I guess "calligraphy" is supposed to be a knock off autobiography.
I’m waiting to see what the Mazda cx 90 brings to the table.
I think your audio standards are a little higher than the layperson. I think the audio is more than adequate, it's not stellar but it's so much better than the stereo in my base model Stinger GT.
Compared to Acura, Volvo, and Toyota it's not good. The other issue is you don't engineer to low standards otherwise this is what you get. Zero tolerance for that.
@@savagegeese Acura and Volvo are much better yes, but I don't think Toyota's JBL system sounds better than this. The key with this Harman Kardon system is lowering the mids and moving the centerpoint back a couple of points
@@savagegeese worse than Toyota? Wow, is that possible? 😳
@@savagegeese lower quality than Toyota/ you must have hit hard times and smoking cheap stuff.
Weird, I have been waiting for Savagegeese to review this car.. that I have no interest in buying. Brilliant channel
I still think about “that girl in high school”. I’m 43.
Spot on review. We've had our 23 Calligraphy since August and agree with all. It's certainly not dynamic, but heavy on the comfort, luxury and convenience.
I think they're exaggerating about the sound system or comparing it to the luxury car makers. It sounds pretty good
Ikr. I'm perfectly happy with a lot of systems he calls 'trash' 🤷♂️
Audiophile here with a Palisade, its not 'crap sounding' its 'weak as hell' there is no dynamic range, frankly its woefully quiet and underpowered. Wife's car tho! :) It sounds ok if it were in a home, but in an auto application (the worst possible audio environment) it is trash.
@@MrHazz0 What does 'weak' have to do with dynamic range, which is a ratio? A ratio btw heavily dependent on what you're actually listening to even within the technical boundaries of the equipment.
This argument about 'trash' sound based on harman curves etc in mass produced tire roaring, wind buffeting midrange family haulers is as nonsensical as taking them extreme offroading and complaining about overheated transmissions. Moot point.
I mean I only have two, 5 inch speakers in my truck and it's fine. I don't need the home theater experience in my vehicles.
@@outermarker5801I must agree with Goose on this subject. We drove the Palisade as well as were driven in a friends Palisade and the sound quality was simply “flat.” No depth nor clarity.
Many do not care and that is fine but the sound quality is simply missing.
Picked up one of these up about 5 weeks ago in the same trim. The good definitely outweighs the bad. Sure it looks like you can grate a large block of cheese on the grill, but the interior is a big selling point. The dash layout, materials, and presence of physical buttons is fantastic. I like that you can steady your hand on the dash while using the touch screen....it makes all the difference in the world for usability. Could not justify the added cost of something at a comparable trim level for example, a Jeep Grand Cherokee L that has piano black trim on all of the touch points. The overall size is perfect as it fits in a regular sized garage, unlike full size SUV's. Road trips are really comfortable in the first two rows and the driving aids work much better that what I've experienced in our 2019 Pilot. Heated out board seats in all 3 rows, ventilated in the first two rows. Pretty good bang for the buck. Hoping the reliability is there...
Has been out for 3 years with no problems so you have a safe buy. Only the engine is pretty oil thirsty so change oil at shorter intervals than manual.
Hey, you don't have to look at it when you're driving, that's everyone else's problem. Am I right?
@@ishaansaral502 Use thicker oil or high mileage oil then, problem solved.
@Savagegeese3 You write TH-cam comments in same tone and style as a Twitter scam bot, hmmmm...
@@ishaansaral502 manual recommended oil with a higher heat tolerance
Kirkland hoodie? Great content as always.
I watched 17 G90 review and bought it. Absolutely loved it for past 3 years, then now I watched this video, got me the 23 calligraphy palisade and I love it. I have decent Highway commute, I am very satisfied
If you think the audio system in this Palisade sucks then you have no idea how bad the system in my 2017 Pilot EX-L is.
The Honda systems are on another level bad. The worst we ever tested was Ridgeline. My phone speaker rivals that.
I hope Hyundai creates an N-Spec High Performance model and tighten up the suspension and handling.
savagegeese were charged an $8000 ADM to do this review.
Luxury features at a lower price point?! That reminds me of my Vincero™️ luxury wristwatch.
we looked into this vehicle... and hate to say it Hyundai is no longer a cheaper option anymore.. Dealers know people come over there thinking they are going to get a better deal than other brands but bang people over the head with pricing or finance deals so you end up spending more... I chose the Nissan Pathfinder over this ... we got a much better deal with similar options and space and felt the driving experience is much better....
New pathfinder looks good
@@Tool0GT92 to me it's a better deal rides better and has more power ... gas mpg ok for segment
I agree with you. Only thing you’re missing is the longer warranty.
I think the Pathfinder Platinum is a better value.
@@mark8684 unless someone is driving a ton of miles i lease these piles....and get rid of them before warranty is up.. ... if one wants to buy these piles out right then I would buy the "facorty brand" extended warranty. Not aftermarket warrenty which will save u a ton of money long term. Like most... for my daily I am at the point of my life that I don't want to worry if its going to start in the moring and the fact that all cars have gotten so complicated and treat it like a appliancebecuase the prices of cars have gone up so much to buy new it's not worth keeping them... past 3-5 years becuase when shit goes wrong it gets expense quick ...
What the... You're giving Hyundai props?! Are there pigs flying outside? What's going on here?! 😆 🤣
6 cylinder
Direct injection could lead up to carbon build up. 🤔 Akins cycle. High compression. Old school. Oil cap says 5w30 not common anymore. No hydraulic lifters, so in cold weather it's loud. Theme under the hood.
Underneath. Steel oil pan Good Idea. Oil filter housing is plastic which is not good.
Suspension: good design McPherson struts. Flex pipes leak.
Exhaust weld: not good
Insulation not good
No insulation in middle section of car so VERY NOISY
Rear shock is large
I’m glad there’s a reviewer that’s honest, Hyundai/Kia has come a long way, but some of the cars are overly gaudy and in your face! But I would admit the Palisade and Santa Fe looks stylish without being offensive like other Korean models.
Mark when asked about his hoodie upgrade from Patagonia - “it’s called fashion sweetie. Look it up. “
I feel like they took a page out of volvos book when I look at this interior
That Costco sponsorship! When you run a Palisade you more than likely go to Costco!
Hyundai and Kias HDA & HDA2 is top of the class but they're not going to do the job correctly/comfortably if you're speeding. If the speed limit I'd 65, and you're doing 90... you should expect the vehicle doesn't perform in that environment as well by itself. Driving with the EV6 going the speed limit to and from work everyday has been basically effortless even with some broken up/choppy line work (Pennsylvania trademark). But speed limit does matter. Coming up to a bend rated to be taken at 55mph is gonna look way different to the computer than if you were trying to do the same at 75mph.
I had a 2011 Outback that was souless. It was like driving Dad's buick, but didn't ride as well. I bought a 2017 Escape AWD 2.0, and love it! My wife has an '18 Santa Fe Ultimate, which is a nice car too, but I prefer the Ford, as it's an appliance with spirit. It is a shame the Hyundai/Kia stealerships are so bad. Have had to go back 3 times for oil changes as they do not replace the filters!
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At least its an NA v6. GDI sure, but gumout every 5k miles should do the trick.
I love soulless machines, just like my wife.
My condolences 🙏 So glad my fiancé is my dream girl and best friend.
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@@fortheloveofnoise You can have my wife.
Guessing this thing has Push-Button Start so the KIA Boys can't steal it ridiculously easily. But why does it have paddle shifters? That's like a hair care company putting out a major line of products designed only for bald men. Makes about as much sense.
Well done guys. Boring isn’t necessarily a bad thing. My 540i is a fun car to drive. This would be a reasonably priced hauler for the grandkids. Will be a serious consideration for sure..
540i...fun? SavageGeese would strongly disagree with you on that point lol
@@CarsMeetsBikes they just might but I stand by my opinion - lol...
@@acrabadacra3916 it is indeed. Fully loaded and still has shifter and real buttons - lol..
@@rolexhulk1774 I would go for the Honda Pilot without a second thought. It was just upgraded for 2023 so it has all the screens and toys inside, if you care about these things. Bulletproof reliability without sacrificing some fun of driving like you do with Toyota's. The sweet V6 v-tec, real tourqe vectoring AWD.
@@TermlessHGW good to hear. My wife likes the Acura counterpart - MDX. It's about 15K more than the Palisade though. I'll check out some videos on the Pilot. Thanks for the heads-up..
My wife refused to drive a mini van and prefer to drive a big suv. This car is perfect for people like that. People who buy these kind of cars are not into the way it drives. They are more into the luxury aspect of it and how many human beings they can squeeze in it for vacation trips or having kids so being a boring driving car is fine. I wont be seeing this car on a race track anytime soon. However, the only reason why hesitated to buy this car is that it is a Korean brand car. I always heard of the reliability of Kia and Huyndai. They are amazing doing luxury and you get huge bang for your buck but whats the point of having all that luxury when you be spending more time in an auto shop than on vacation? Thats why I hate owning Landrovers. Amazing luxury but a peace of trash.
"If you were in heavy traffic...like 80-75mph and you just want to turn off your brain..." Thanks for putting into words exactly what's wrong with American drivers today.
The machines are far, far, safer.
What you mean "Today"?
Americans turn off their brain every day.
I bought the 2023 Limited and it's my first Hyundai. It is leagues above the competition (save for the Telluride since they're basically the same).
You need to watch ( the car care nut) review on this car on TH-cam. He shows where the did the cost cutting.
@@Nitroscion okay?
And everyone does it, even if you buy an S class per se you’ll find cost cuttings if you look for them.
@@21Dimen From your reply, I can tell that you don’t work in the trades. Yes, every company does cost cutting but when you work on things on a daily basis you will notice poor engineering and/or craftsmanship. You mentioned Mercedes: I can show you a Mercedes that has a spout under the oil drain plug so you don’t get oil everywhere. It’s the attention to detail that you notice and appreciate. With that said; sloppy wields on the exhaust pipe shows the lack of care when a good wield doesn’t cost more.
@@Nitroscion Yet they’re prone to having the most issues. Please. I’ve been in. Many mercedes and they all creaked inside. The plastics do not hold well.
I don’t understand all the brainwashing, yes they’re nice when they dont creak and if they work.
Aside from the exaggeration about the sound system (c'mon dude, this sound system is going to be fine for 99% of the people out there), pretty fair assessment. The usual harping about the dealer experience. I went to my local Hyundai dealership and was really impressed with the test drive and sales people... There are douchebag sales reps at EVERY dealership for ANY brand...
True. I bought a Genesis G70 earlier this year at a combined Hyundai/Genesis dealer in SoCal, and so far, the dealership experience has been surprisingly not bad, but then I am not coming from a luxury brand on my before vehicles. Anyhoo. . . . . pleasant salesmen and finance guys, fair value on my trade-in, and a Great service manager so far. Maybe I've been lucky, or maybe I just had low expectations anyway. . . .
@@blueshark3098 Nice and thanks for sharing. Went to my local Genny dealership and was REALLY impressed at the service I received. I spoke with the GM and the saleswoman was really professional and thoughtful. She let me open the GV70 up on a straight road.. It's as good as the best experience I've had at other dealerships..
No there is a software issue. Have a 24 and it sounded horrible before the update!
No one does reviews like you gentlemen. Simply what a review should be.
I drive a 2021 Santa Fe Calligraphy. In essence, it is just like this Palisade except it cost a bit less, gets 24 mpg and handles quite well.
@savagegeese Would you spend $50K on 2023 Hyundai Palisade or a used 2020 GLS 450 with 50K miles?
legislate maximum headlight heights. I. E. tall cars will just need to look extra dopey with normal car height headlights
“Minivans” suck. Jack it up 6 inches and “minivans” are what everyone wants.
Hyundai and Kia Will Lose $2 Billion on Fixing Bad Engines This Quarter
More than half of Hyundai's Q3 profit and three quarters of Kia's was provisioned to fix busted engines in 1.7 million cars globally.
ByAdam Ismail
PublishedOctober 18, 2022
I would be terrified to put my dogs and shithead kids inside that fancy ass interior. I daily a 2010 kicked to shit Honda Odyssey that I bought off Facebook marketplace for $4000 and when it dies or has too much vomit and spilled drinks in the back, I’ll scrap it and get another one. It’s fkn incredible.
Hands down, the 2020 Palisade we had was one of the best vehicles, dollars to quality, we've ever owned. People who are in the market and not cross-shopping these are hurting themselves. We only sold it because, in 2022, we were being offered in trade-in exactly what we had paid for it new two years and 20,000 miles earlier.
“Can’t lose aside the dealer experience…”.
Stated with obvious experience (that matches mine).
Dealer experience is a minor flaw. You can have the worst experience and get a better car than some
Nice review, but... Why do you waste your precious time with soon-to-be clunkers? There are so many more reliable cars to be reviewed...
But those reliable cars are absolutely uncompetitive and can’t hold anything to Hyundai or kia
Do not buy hyundai or kia 💣💥
This car is highly popular with a long waitlist.
You mean like the Toyotas that are blowing up?
@@rushmoresociety2577 exactly.
I'm out of the loop, what's up with Hyundai's sales/service experience?
They are okay to lease.. If you want to buy a car and keep for a while stay away from Korean brands they are two problematic and have major issues.
::: someone's uncle's friends third cousin had a bad dealer experience, and Charles thinks it's everyone.
@@rushmoresociety2577 that's the power of word of mouth for ya
@@charlesjackson1700 I'm seriously considering the Palisade as a first SUV. Are the problems as bad as they say?
@@BigBrotherMars Real talk: In Q3 of 2022 alone, Kia lost 55% of their profits and Hyundai lost 77% of their profits due to warranty claims on their faulty and failing engines, $2 billion in total. Stay away from this brand and don’t buy into the hype.
What is it that motivates people to buy a school bus like this.Maybe because the neighbors have one.People are such sheep.
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My dad brought a '23 XRT AWD for $1100 under sticker. He loves it so far. Multiple round trips between Virginia and New York and it did extremely well. 5 people and luggage and it was smooth.
Thanks for reviewing guys…bummed about the stereo…was hoping it was better. Also wished you guys gave more detail on comparing it to the Telluride…I just don’t get how the Telluride gets all the attention and is in such short supply compared to the Palisade given they share roots…
@@SkeletalMisunderstanding I’ve driven both a few times…they do look different. Not sure it’s better. That’s personal preference, and I don’t think it’s lopsided. Rugged interior is also personal preference…some like that, others want more plush/luxury inside…I have a Wagoneer that doesn’t have side view mirrors that don’t fold in…not that big a deal and it’s a wider car. I do prefer a manual 3rd row…fewer things to break…Other than that, I though the Palisade was a smoother ride in the few different rides I took in it…my neighbor has one…
Kirkland signature 😂 agreed ! High value to dollar ratio! Great package at 50k
My turbo 4cyl 2020 RDX SH-AWD can't even manage 22MPG combined, so the small displacement engines aren't necessarily great for MPGs either. How Honda was able to make their engines so thirsty (the new 3.0T in their Type-S's are thirstier than some V8s) is beyond me.
Because turbo means more air and more airs means more gas.
@@ghoulbuster1 Well in theory the turbo+smaller capacity engine saves gas. If it doesn't it's a bad engine. That is part of the reason you pay more for German brands, their engines and drive trains have good power and good fuel economy. When corners are cut you see it in the fuel economy always.
@@TheChannel1978 Turbo engines are only fuel efficient if you drive them right at the efficiency peak, that's around the point the turbo spools up to max and makes the most torque.
But if you go over that, it quickly starts consuming more gas because of how turbos work.
If you drive a turbo engine at very high RPMs it can use more gas than a bigger displacement engine.
Wife got a Telluride last year after trying pretty much every option out there. She absolutely loves it and I loved not spending $20k more on a Tahoe or something. Optioned it out with most everything and it was still only $49-50k
They didnt mark it up? Everywhere in md it is marked up
How is the reliability
Does she have to park it outside the garage? 😂
Genuine question, aren't hyundai known for engine problems? I have owned a 2002 Sonata, which was the worst car ever, and rest all toyota. I don't have much xp with newer cars but all I hear about Hyundai/Kia is bad engines, even the newer ones
The interior looks really nice with a nice dash board. From the oustide, it kinda looks like a baby Tahoe...
How does the new Atlas stack up against it
Thank you for this great review. My 2022 calligraphy FWD usually gets 26 - 27 mpg on the highway.
The Cadillac XT-6 team should watch this video 😂
I got a 2023 Palisade Calligraphy for my family. It’s still a lot of money but it’s amazing. Can’t beat it unless you wanna pay $70k.
My 2021 3.5 awd highlander struggles to get 18 mpg city
This looks amazing. The only improvements I'd like to see are an actual pano roof and the removable middle second row seat like the pilot/MDX. It's really hard to justify MDX/QX60 with this being so good and 10-15k less. Looking to get one of these this time next year (getting bent over by dealers is a concern).
Except it is boring to drive with a lousy stereo.
@@dndodd100 but it’s still better to drive than a highlander
This probably drives wayyyy worse than the MDX, and the MDX even has a twin turbo V6 in it's Type-S version
@@naveenthemachine Maybe but my 2018 Honda odyssey is better to drive than my previous 2016 highlander. My 23 MDX Type S is better to drive than all three and the 2017 Cayenne it replaced.
@@dndodd100 sure but the MDX has a horrendous interior with piano black plastic and terrible ergonomics. Not fitting for a luxury marque when the new Pilot looks nicer inside.
It might be a great deal, yes, but FUEL ECON. Who can bat their eyes at that nowadays?
The amount of made-up hate this gets from Japanese car fans AND American fans is hilarious.
You see so many on the road - that means they are hated for making something good and competitive.
There are also more cockroaches on earth than humans.
Please, tell me when Kia/Hyundai were number one in sales? Which years?
Then proceed to GTFO with your circumstantial evidence 😂
Yeah it's crazy how on every video about a Hyundai or Kia that gets praised, the Toyota fanboys will crawl out of their holes to shit on it based on their experience or knowledge of 10 year old Hyundais. No other brand gets as much shit on these videos since they're threatened that their favorite Japanese brand is starting to get overshadowed.
It’s a cold hard fact that Kia lost 55% of its profit and Hyundai 77% of their profit in Q3 of 2022 due to warranty claims on their failing engines. It cost them $2 billion in one quarter. This is not made up hate, LMFAO.
@moloono1 My brother in Christ, how is this relevant to the Palisade, which doesn't have any issues, and is getting a glowing recommendation from reviewers and owners.
The school girl reference , excellent
Give us a Palisade N you cowards!
7:50 a mazdaspeed 3? can't really tell it's blurry
Good catch, I believe you're right 👍
I'm surprised that you only got 22-23 mpg on your highway road trip. I've been getting around 28-29 mpg with our 23 Calligraphy on the highway, and 22-23 in the city. In fact my close friend just got a 23 Highlander Hybrid and told me his first road trip with it he only got 29 mpg with cruise set to 82mph. Granted, I was averaging 75 mph in our Palisade, but for his hybrid Highlander to get the same MPG as our non-hybrid palisade while only going 7mph faster on the highway was shocking to me.
Well he does keep slamming on the gas as he drives
Hybrids are very efficient in the city, but because the engine runs more often on the hwy, the mpg is good, but not fantastic. That’s why the Highlander Hybrid is rated 35 city/35 hwy.
@@foxlake6750 correct, without frequent braking, the battery does not get as much charging and the electric motor cannot participate as much in moving the vehicle so the gas engine has to pick up the slack
I mean watch how he pulls out from a stop sign. Lol. Surprised he got 22.
Finally a car that a middle class family could afford that's not a complete POS
I am superised no one compare this to a subaru ascent.
I think it is impressive, as a family hauler.
I'm really far how far you guys have come, and now sponsored by Kirkland Signature!? Wow, congratulations Mark!
As a Costco employee who has the same shirt I approve this comment.
Thanks!
Hyundai didn't know how big of a hit this would be! Definitely a lot of car for your money; features, warranty, looks, reliability etc. Can't even imagine how Hyundai will improve it for the 2nd generation lol
Yeah it's for people who really want a Tahoe or Navigator but don't have 80-100 grand.
That's not a dig, btw. 80 grand is insane for an SUV.
Such a huge difference in mpg on all highway between awd and fwd , i average 27 mpg on my 23 sel premium palisade. While i do agree the ride is boring tondrive , all highlanders for decades were branded the same , reliable and boring to drive with no comfort. One would just buy it for reliability. Comming from highlander and 4runner i definitely would take this boring palisade cruiser with comfort over my last 4runner and our 15 pilot. This palisade is truly a hidden gem. The HK system is straight garbage , that you are right about.
Wise choice on the SEL Premium; for about $45k it’s loaded!
Do the seats not have an adjustable crotch recess? ... Oh right, it's an SUV.
A lovely interior, but I can't get past the exterior styling.
The problem with any Hyundai product is the dealer experience. No way you’ll find these at sticker.
That’s with every dealer from all brands nkw
@@JDMSwervo2001 I looked at the palisade and the dealer wanted 5k over sticker and was using tactics that really concerned me. Definitely didn’t feel like you were buying a 50k car. Went and bought a MDX instead
@@mattcusto and you paid over sticker…
Seems like a steal within its segment. Enjoy the V6 sounds while you still can!
I get blinded by oncoming drivers even without their high beams on.
I’m still counting how many times he said acoustic laminated glass
It seems like it always raining on you guys on the road driving portions… even in the rain you guys RULE!
Still waiting for VW Atlas review. Its a lower cost competitor which makes a lot of sense when you see markups of these things.
This is a very popular SUV in the lgbtq community 😘
Cancelling my order now !
@@bextar6365 don’t be ignorant
@@JDMSwervo2001 Wise...
Why wouldn't it be? It's a very popular SUV in the straight community, too. It's not just gay people who bid these up to $5k over MSRP.
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I mean you're complaining its boring and putting you to sleep but that is why this is selling so damn well. Anyone who can get their hands on these is buying them with 20% dealer markups for that reason alone. Just get in, it drives, A to B, and you forget what you're driving and forget the car is a factor in you arriving at your destination
I don’t believe there are dealer markups on these vehicles currently.
Yup. exactly. my sister just bought one of these. it's exactly the right vehicle for someone who wants to haul kids around in an appliance. Minus any markups tho (which suck)
@@notsodelusional they have one of lowest on lot rates of any new sold car. That means between the dealer receiving them and finding a buyer is super short. And as a result they mark em up as people are still buying them like mad
@@dontarguewithidiots7459 exactly. Reviewers tend to lose that focus, which is why these guys and AoA are the best imo, they actually talk about the actual buying demographic vs "oooo fancy screen"