Hollywood: We accept your apology. Ingrid: I didn't apologize. Hollywood: We think you've learned your lesson. Ingrid: I didn't do anything wrong. Hollywood: It's time we all forgive you. Ingrid: I didn't ask for your forgiveness. Hollywood: THE REDEMPTION ARC IS NOW COMPLETE!
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 I'm prim for looking down on people who knowingly step outside of their marriages (excluding open marriages and other situations in which all parties involved know the deal)? Better that than immoral for doing it, or degenerate for supporting it.
@@christopherbrown2706 Obviously, you know all the intimate details of this situation and are equipped, thus, to condemn. Clearly, it all personally involved you, too. I can't take anyone who uses "degenerate" seriously, seriously. The 1950's called. It wants you back.
The thing is that people forget that there are two people in a relationship. No one really blamed Roberto Rossellini for the affair and Bergman got all of the flake. It’s like people think that Bergman impregnated herself with thin air like wasn’t Rossellini the 2nd person in the affair? I still love her though.
Yeah...she definitely bore the brunt of the criticism in the US, which kind of makes sense as she was more famous here. Rossellini had more trouble in Italy, especially for collaborating with a Hollywood actress because it was considered “anti neorealist”
When Kristen Stewart slept with the snow white and the huntsman director who was married, I never heard anyone give the director any shit, it was all on Kristen
Oh wow, actually, THAT room, assembling everyone involved in making this happen, would have been very crowded!! And of course, I'm not even talking about agents, let alone the press! In my pov, Bergman basically just had arrived at a point, where she simply couldn't go on the way she had! I'm not saying, Roberto Rosselini was just a, well, convenient rope to snatch, but, she needed a change, imo more than just on a personal level, a break from Hollywood - I dunno, maybe even WWII and what she'd seen of it (Capa included in that) might have had a supporting part in this classic drama.
@@Starkardur its basically the only difference. Which is what I think makes it so mesmerising. She’s so reminiscent, yet the Italian aspect of her also makes her almost entirely different. A fabulous blend of similar, yet different.
The fact that everyone loses their mind over her affair and closed down theatres and yet predators are still acting in Hollywood and people don’t say a word
I remember an interview where Isabella mentioned she couldn't see why people kept saying she looked like her mom and it shook me so hard. Even the interviewer was like 'girl, for real..'.
Beautifully done. Wasn't she the one who announced the Hepburn/Streisand tie for Best Actress? I kinda remember how gracefully shocked she was when she opened that envelope. Also... Isn't it weird how some people believe that cancel culture is an invention of the 2010s media...?
And the outrage tends to be over different things (at least sometimes), which is what makes people think it's something new. The process isn't new ("ostracisation" is an Ancient Greek concept for crying out loud), just the values being judged have shifted.
she is so underrated among today fans of classic cinema, her acting is a blessing for eyes,she was the most realistic classic star ,others were caring too much about their reputaion among fans that they had to hide their real personalities
Also, she is more remembered for her persona and movies in the 1940s. I get that she was amazing in them but she was a lot more than that. Yet no one admired her that much for it unfortunately
@@injieanis4581 exacly , she was one of the few classic stars that her acting is timeless she was as wonderful in atumn sonata as she was in casablanca, she had that modern Superstar quaility about her, to be a great actress regardless of her age, like meryl streep. She is the perfect definition for being an amazing actress regardless of her age
I know back then the Rossellini affair almost killed Ingrid’s acting career but looking back at it, it was probably the best move for Ingrid’s career as she was able to build her name recognition and establish stable work in the European and art house movie market. It’s the reason she didn’t have to take demeaning hagploitation roles that unfortunately other actresses like Bette, Joan, and Olivia had to take when roles were no longer being offered to them. By not taking these roles, it saved her reputation and got her better roles in the 1960’s and 1970’s.
you're very right actually, from the great stars of the 40s very few managed to win an oscar nomination past the 60s (unless you were katherine hepburn ofc) and ingrid took the win in the 75 and another nomination just 4 years later. I guess it has to do with the well recognition that certain european cinema has as well (and that ingrid worked in herself for a decade).
Here in Italy, their story is told so differently! The story usually starts with Bergman famous letter to Rossellini and then it is told as a love story. That created scandal, but basically a love story between two great artists
I guess this goes to show the things Americans value or how generally speaking Americans tend to "think" more negatively rather than focusing on the positives.
@@afrolatinameli.4094 Which is funny because between Czechs and Americans, we're the negative ones and tend to think of Americans as the unrealistically positive ones. Although I have no idea how such a story would be perceived from here; in many things, Americans are definitely way more rigid than they'd like to think they are.
She is a wonderfully honest and strong presence on screen; she's capable of a huge range of characterization, from deeply dramatic to comic, with always a strong backbone. If feels as if that backbone was part of her personal integrity as well as of her screen persona. Thanks for this wonderful essay.
Most people see her win in Murder on the Orient Express as an extended apology from Hollywood but I was truly touched by the pain and passion of her character and how much she did for such a small role.
And Deborah Kerr should have won this Oscar. She was brilliant in King and I and never won an Oscar. She is similar to Amy Adams in their acting style and never winning after so many nominations (although Amy of course still can although apparently Hillbilly Elegy isn’t good unfortunately so not yet).
I would love to see one on Maria Felix, a major movie star in latin america and europe. Maria rejected racism and those contracts and ran away from Hollywood
don´t forget Dolores Del Rio! she became the queen of Hollywood for more than a decade having amazing roles... of course, all of it, before Mr. MacArthur
An absolutely iconic actress, Ingrid Bergman looked life in the face and said "I shall pave my own way" and proceeded to live her life with no regrets.
I asked Mom why people hated her. She said that Ingrid made too many films as nuns and saints and people confused make believe with real people. That and how men get away with things that women are not allowed to do
First, as a kpop stan, love the fancam. Ingrid deserves every fancam ever. Second, I love how you structured this video. Rather than simply offer the facts, you gave us nuance and something to think about. You gave us a critique of the Hollywood bubble and compared it to other films. A fantastic video all around.
@@scottross8578 yes, women raised by sexist men have to have a alot of internalized misogyny groomed into them in order to be "good women" that society treats somewhat decent. When even an untrue rumor would get a girl/women treated to the way ingrid Bergman was.
That quote said her influence was more (and worse) than if Stalin and Lenin had preached (the narrator didn’t read the full quote but it was on the screen. It’s not about her character or her actions but her ability to influence (and I was seen as negative and so compared to other people with negative influence).
One doesn't just click on a Be Kind Rewind video... One prepares, makes time, pours a glass of wine and enjoys Hollywood's history becoming poetry through the lives of women... Beautiful as always! Thanx!!!
Up there in the Pantheon of the greatest actors of all time. And had she only done the masterpieces that are 'Notorious', 'Stromboli', 'Voyage to Italy' and 'Autumn Sonata' it would have been more than enough for ten lifetimes of applause and adoration for her art. Glad every generation of film lovers takes up where the last one left off and is still in awe of (if not also in love with) her.
Not going to add anything about Ingrid Bergman, but it does warrant stating: if you read just about any review from Bosley Crowther today, it's astonishing what a dreadful critic he was. Product of his time and all that, yeah, but still: there's very little of his writing that holds up even relatively well, and his judgment on movies is generally much, much worse than his writing.
@@2degucitas I think that may be an occupational hazard for critics. They start off with a love of writing about film/theater/music but let themselves become cynical when it becomes more about the job than the writing.
YES! He was a theater critic as well and he was rubbish at that as well. I'm still salty over the way he over-hyped certain actors and destroyed others who weren't to his taste.
true i feel the same way with pauline kael god bless her soul but her reviews didn't feel like actual film reviews and more like brutual prejudice reviews, i felt bc she embodied that "not like other girls" attitude is why she was allowed in the film critics circle more than any other female critic/journalist of her time. Reading her reviews on meryl streep movies and acting talent in the 80s and 90s is a rollar coaster of cringe and confusion
Right?? Feels like every time BKR releases a new video, there's some mention of Bosley Crowther and he just comes across as out of touch (even then) and having the worst opinions on literally EVERYTHING.
This was just fabulous to watch. That Ingrid Bergman "I have no regrets" energy is such #goals. And I agree about the Stromboli hair, glad you gave it the attention it deserves! And speaking of 1956 and that newspaper you showed, I think Deborah Kerr would make for a great video subject. Not only is she kind of underrated nowadays (at least I think so), but she lost Best Actress six times, a record unlikely to be broken. Not to mention the irony of receiving that Honorary Oscar from the hands of... Glenn Close. Just one more suggestion from one more fan ;)
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 No, nothing wrong. Just funny that Glenn happened to be the person presenting the Honorary Oscar to Deborah. At the time, Deborah was one of two actresses with the most nominations without a win. Now, Glenn stands alone as the most nominated actress without a win.
After having a bad day, accessing TH-cam and seeing a new video from Be Kind Rewind just made me feel better. And what a rare jewel was Ingrid Bergman.
Ingrid Bergman is my favourite actress in all of classic films and Notorious is my favourite Hitchcock film. Thank you for profiling the ups and downs of her career.
@@Nikki-tx6kh what, no, that's not how we'd say it naturally in Italian XD "Telefono nuovo, chi sei?" is how you want to say it. But "nuovo telefono who dis" still made me lol
@equasian the only Spanish here is that the comment at the top incorrectly spelled "nuovo" and wrote the Spanish "nuevo" instead. People using Spanish words to "speak Italian" thinking they're the same languages is so common that I don't even bother to point out mistakes anymore lol
today i was rewatching your videos and thinking about who would i like to know about next, and it came to my mind ingrid bergman.... i haven´t been more surprised in a while
The videos from this channel are the most well produced on TH-cam. Factually accurate and educational. The narration carries each video along effortlessly. Wonderful job on the beautiful ❤️ Ingrid.
Your videos made me fall in love with film and its history all over again. It's always so exciting getting a notification for a new video from your channel.
I first saw her in "Casablanca" (one of my favorite films) and thought she was chosen for that role just to be "eye candy". Then I watched "Gaslight", "For Whom The Bell Tolls", and "Notorious"...and now I consider Ingrid Bergman to be one of the all-time greats.
"nuovo telefono who dis" okay this is seriously one of my favorite channels on this site. educational, entertaining, brilliantly researched and structured...how do you do it??? also like...so many men in hollywood, even at this point we're crafting their personas out of being ~ladies' men~ but of course bergman and not rossellini took all the heat for the scandal despite the fact that they were both married. thank you for reading my mind and calling out the eddie fisher/elizabeth taylor double standard.
One of my favourites actresses to watch. Autumn Sonata is magnificent and my favourite with her. I didn't know anything about the backlash she went through in America. Interesting to know that American society has seldom been able to separate a real person from the roles an actor takes, good for Ingrid for leaving that bubble and pursuing growth as an artist.
Thank you for this video! Very well made, and so nice to see Ingrid Bergman getting a part of the appriciation she deserved. I can add a bit from a Swedish perspective: She is considered to be one of our greatest actors, of course, and was very much loved here in Sweden. For us Swedes she was not a Hollywood actress that ”went rouge”, but an actress that was successfull as well as in Sweden as in other parts of Europe AND in Hollywood. And both on stage and on the screen. And she did so much more after Anastasia. Personally, I loved that she went her own way. That she never apologized for her choices. I guess that the fact that she already had a career in Sweden, and after Stromboli also in the rest of Europe, made it easier for her to handle Hollywood’s / America’s reaction to her affair and marriage to Rossilini, than what would have been possible for an American-born actor. I can highly recommend her biography ”My Story”.
Anastasia and its Oscar always struck me as an explicit Return on Ingrid’s part-in the film’s narrative about a “lost” princess , its characterization of her as someone with literally no memory, her willingness to play a character that conformed to her former saintly(ish) persona, that final scene where is re-glamorized in her gown and crown. The parallels to her professional return were just perfectly Classic Hollywood, and a great bit of mythmaking. Without it, would she have become quite the legend she still is?
What struck _me_ about Anastasia was how it maintains the ambiguity of her identity till the end (unlike the animated feature it inspired, for example). She wasn't returning to a persona in my view, she was simply playing a compelling, confusing and confused character. From her point of view, I imagine, anyway. The way it played out may well be exactly how you characterised it. 🙂
I loved this video, it gave me the push to go finish watching Stromboli. Also, I loved how you let your humor intrude more in here, it's more than welcome ;)
One of my favorite of your videos; am impressed at how nuanced you are in your evaluation of Bergman's career, how she consistently looked for challenges, working in theater even when she was in the first flush of her Hollywood stardom (and winning one of the first Tony Awards). Too often, the problem with people commenting on Ingrid Bergman is that Hollywood stardom is seen as the aim of any career, as if that is the end all and be all. (In all the commentary on Katharine Hepburn, for example, her decision to do theater in the 1950s, especially her decision to do "regional" theater where she could do classics - Shakespeare and Shaw, for example - is overlooked, as if it were not an important part of her decision as to what "acting" meant for her.) And Bergman's decision to work in theater, television, as well as movies, so that she could expand her range as an actress is often neglected, but i'm glad to see you give that proper credit. She had become the biggest star in Hollywood (by the mid-1940s, a top box office star and an award-winning actress) and then she wanted to see what else was out there for her as an artist. And that's the important part: as an artist!
This was such a great video. I was meant to be in bed ages ago, but then I saw this and I had to open a beer and spend the last half an hour here. By far, my favourite channel on this platform.
It was because of the 1997 film that I sought out more information about the Russian royal family and eventually the 1956 film where I first discovered and fell in love with Ingrid Bergman! 🥰
Thank you for giving me a whole 30-mins of Ingrid content! (and a fan cam 😂). This is quickly becoming one of my favourite channels and really boosts my trivia game!
Your videos are like mini Docs. So informative and entertaining. You are a very gifted storyteller. I love Ingrid Bergman and was excited to watch this. Did not disappoint.
As a teen I became a huge fan of black and white films in the golden age of Hollywood. As I became aware of all the great stars, Ingrid Bergman had a special place. When I learned about her blacklist over morals charges, I was outraged and I still get emotional about it to this day. She is a supremely great actress who has nothing to apologize for. I also learned that when she attended the 1959 Academy Awards as a presenter, she was given a standing ovation. Good for her.
Absolutely love this video! Thank you for featuring Ingrid. Few months back I was binge watching Ingrid's videos on yt and this is such a wonderful addition. She's a very talented actress and it's a delight to watch her on screen. Thanks once again for this.
Thank God, people today dont give a rat's ass about the scandal. She was human, she made mistakes, so what. I love her for what she believed in, her talent and her beauty.
"Very quick performance in Murder on the Orient Express" Yes but what a performance! (if you haven't seen the movie go watch at least her (basically only) scene, it's 4 minutes and on youtube)
If you haven't seen the film, you must watch the whole thing and then watch it again after you know the ending. Her performance has about 1,000 more levels when you have the whole story. She was originally cast for the Princess Dragomiroff role, but asked for the charity worker instead. She knew which role she'd slay.
I love her performance there! she talks very little, it’s all about the breathing, the eyes, the body language - she, in her interrogation scene, trumps everyone else in that sea of mega movie stars
Just saw Inn of the sixth happiness at home, Ingrid is so awesome and I think she is the greatest, but that is my own opinion!! We all have our favorites, but what convinced me is listening to her on Luxe Radio and her genius is so clear as with just her voice she inhabits her roles. She is the best there is, thanks for this Video 🥰❤️
@@teddypattinson5772 It’s not like Ingrid was the only actress with a positive public image. Myrna Loy was known as the perfect wife, but she was married four times.
Sometimes people fixate on an unlucky person at a specific time because they need to vent and have someone be the lightning rod to their hate as a pressure valve. Or, in other words: humans are shitty bastards with poor impulse control and want someone else to do emotional labour for them to make them feel better.
I find myself coming back to your videos over and over again. Right now, it's sunday morning, and I'm in bed with a cup of tea, rewatching this particular video for the 4th+ time. I think apart from the subject matter (which is really to my liking), it is due to your voice - my ear just loves your soothing timbre and then you have exceptional rhythm, I love your delivery of every single line, you land every single dot and punchline Thank you so much for all the content so far and I'm looking forward to all the things to come!
My suggestion came to fruition!!! You did awesome! I'm really glad you talked about it. By the way, I like your conversation about her collaborations and the "realist" movement. Next suggestion: Could we do a career focus on the actress Thelma Ritter? A 6 time oscar nominee in both dramatic and comedy roles, but never got the award and very few talk about her.
THE FAN CAM omg. I was just thinking about your channel this morning wondering when I'd be blessed with a new video and was very happily surprised when I got the notification for this one. I LOVE INGRID BERGMAN
This was absolutely lovely. Thank you! I have been a fan of Ingrid Bergman since I watched "Ingrid Bergman Week" on my southern small-town television station's afternoon movie in 1972 when I was 13. Later at college in Chicago, I saw her movie with Rossellini and I wondered about the "scandal" of her retreat from Hollywood. Why all the fuss! You articulated for me what I always thought. Thank you.
As someone who recently watched "Anastasia" for the first time (my first Bergman film!), I have to agree: the 1997 animated musical is superior. Another fantastically entertaining and educational video. I certainly cannot tell you're just starting out with editing. These videos are always seamless in style and presentation.
Thank you, our miss BKR, for another wonderfully made presentation on film-making in all its glory! It is always a joy to look, listen & learn alongside you. Thank you for sharing what you see with us...
OK, I was here for the commentary on Ingrid's hair, and then the fancam KILLED ME. I loved it. Have to say though, one of the things that bugs me most about "golden era" Hollywood movies (and pretty much all the subsequent eras) is the really glaring age differences between the romantic male and female leads, which seemed particularly pronounced in Bergman's case. It was like the movie director equivalent of self-insert fanfic. Obviously Bergman herself liked older men, at least sometimes, and I wouldn't care if it were just an occasional thing. But over and over and over, huge age differences showing up in her films. Until, ironically, she started making those movies in Italy and Europe.
I loved this video. Ingrid Bergman is my favorite actress from that generation. And I particularly love the take on her exile. I had heard about the scandal from my father, years ago, but I didn't know the details. Please continue with your work. I am a huge fan of BKR - your delightful video series on actresses and old Hollywood.
Nothing, but NOTHING perks me up like the discovery that you have posted a new video. This is such a marvelous account of one of our film star gems. Thank you so much for doing your thing!
I omg'd all over when I got a notification and saw Ingrid Bergman. Personally, I love her performance in Anastasia and thought she deserved her Oscar for it as she did Gaslight and Murder On The Orient Express. I love your exploration of her. I want to see her Rossolini films now. Also, hot take on cancel culture- everyone who condemned her would be canceled today. Those who whine about cancel culture do come from privilege and those who condemn it probably have something to hide. I feel your sharing of Ingrid Bergman's story calls that out and frames it wonderfully.
Hollywood: We accept your apology.
Ingrid: I didn't apologize.
Hollywood: We think you've learned your lesson.
Ingrid: I didn't do anything wrong.
Hollywood: It's time we all forgive you.
Ingrid: I didn't ask for your forgiveness.
Hollywood: THE REDEMPTION ARC IS NOW COMPLETE!
I'd say adultery is wrong, but then again, I was raised properly.
@@christopherbrown2706 Properly? If this means "I was encouraged to be prim and judgemental", then I suppose you are right in your use of the word.
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 I'm prim for looking down on people who knowingly step outside of their marriages (excluding open marriages and other situations in which all parties involved know the deal)?
Better that than immoral for doing it, or degenerate for supporting it.
Not only cheating.....she abandoned her daughter on another Continent. Something was a little fucked up in the maternal hardware in ya ask me.
@@christopherbrown2706 Obviously, you know all the intimate details of this situation and are equipped, thus, to condemn. Clearly, it all personally involved you, too.
I can't take anyone who uses "degenerate" seriously, seriously.
The 1950's called. It wants you back.
A new BKR video is a cultural event.
a cultural reset if you will
Yaaaas. True.
Yea, verily! ( ◜‿◝ )♡
BKR is an icon, she’s a legend, and she is the moment.
BKR is a cultural landmark
Isabella Rossellini - the only actress who’s been controversial since before she was born.
and honestly? Can anyone compete with that level of iconic energy?
She married and divorced the Martin Scorsese
@Matshidiso Sekgampu she’s still alive and stunning!
I think the child in news was actually their son.
@@blissclair9743 That’s right, but Isabella was still the child of a relationship seen as illicit back then
The thing is that people forget that there are two people in a relationship. No one really blamed Roberto Rossellini for the affair and Bergman got all of the flake. It’s like people think that Bergman impregnated herself with thin air like wasn’t Rossellini the 2nd person in the affair? I still love her though.
Yeah...she definitely bore the brunt of the criticism in the US, which kind of makes sense as she was more famous here. Rossellini had more trouble in Italy, especially for collaborating with a Hollywood actress because it was considered “anti neorealist”
When Kristen Stewart slept with the snow white and the huntsman director who was married, I never heard anyone give the director any shit, it was all on Kristen
@@Tuosma The director who was,what, twice Kristen's age? Clearly a poor, innocent weak man seduced by a wanton bisexual hussy!
//SARCASM //
There's a story that Rossellini made a bet with his friend that he'd sleep with Bergman within two weeks of her arrival to film Stromboli. He won.
Oh wow, actually, THAT room, assembling everyone involved in making this happen, would have been very crowded!! And of course, I'm not even talking about agents, let alone the press! In my pov, Bergman basically just had arrived at a point, where she simply couldn't go on the way she had! I'm not saying, Roberto Rosselini was just a, well, convenient rope to snatch, but, she needed a change, imo more than just on a personal level, a break from Hollywood - I dunno, maybe even WWII and what she'd seen of it (Capa included in that) might have had a supporting part in this classic drama.
I can NEVER get over how much Isabella Rossalini talks, acts, sounds and looks identical to her mother.
Yeah. Smile, face, body type, body language - everything except the hair color! She's like Ingrid with a wig!
except Isabella is very Italian and has an Italian accent. Ingrid spoke with a Swedish accent
Yep I also think there was a nod and a wink to this in her casting in Death becomes her. 👍
@@Starkardur its basically the only difference. Which is what I think makes it so mesmerising. She’s so reminiscent, yet the Italian aspect of her also makes her almost entirely different. A fabulous blend of similar, yet different.
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The fact that everyone loses their mind over her affair and closed down theatres and yet predators are still acting in Hollywood and people don’t say a word
If women were the primary Hollywood predators they would have all been burned at the stake decades ago.
That's men for you
That's what is known as a massive double standard.
Predators are all over the place, but none moreso than the church that loves to point at everyone else
THE FANCAM IS SENDING ME THROUGH THE ROOF
PLS POST IT ON TWITTER
Literally scalped me
I truly didn’t expect it
😊lll
Her daughter-Isabella Rossellini-narrated a Christmas concert I performed in. She had a wonderfully dramatic voice!
Was she nice to work with ? Did she tell you some stories about her famous mother ?
that's so cool!
I loved her as Nimue in the Merlin miniseries from 1998. She does have a very nice, husky tone to her voice.
Rossellini....so not her other daughter that she abandoned?
candlelight!!
I don’t think I ever realized how much her daughter looks like her. Wow
Yeah Isabella is her twin !
She has the same voice too.
She’s just a darker haired and eyed version of her mum, that’s for sure! The bone structure is identical.
Isn't Isabella a twin or does she merely have siblings who are twins?
I remember an interview where Isabella mentioned she couldn't see why people kept saying she looked like her mom and it shook me so hard. Even the interviewer was like 'girl, for real..'.
Beautifully done. Wasn't she the one who announced the Hepburn/Streisand tie for Best Actress? I kinda remember how gracefully shocked she was when she opened that envelope.
Also... Isn't it weird how some people believe that cancel culture is an invention of the 2010s media...?
There’s nothing new under the sun.
@@jessica_jam4386 the pitchforks are just replaced with comment sections and videos.
And the outrage tends to be over different things (at least sometimes), which is what makes people think it's something new. The process isn't new ("ostracisation" is an Ancient Greek concept for crying out loud), just the values being judged have shifted.
Ingrid Bergman was the most natural actress of the classical era. The Virgo is one of my favs and I would love to name my daughter after her
"They denied it. But they totally were"
lmao
literally the second I thought "oh wow her hair in this scene" you stopped the video and went "can we just TALK ABOUT HER HAIR"
she is so underrated among today fans of classic cinema, her acting is a blessing for eyes,she was the most realistic classic star ,others were caring too much about their reputaion among fans that they had to hide their real personalities
Also, she is more remembered for her persona and movies in the 1940s. I get that she was amazing in them but she was a lot more than that. Yet no one admired her that much for it unfortunately
@@injieanis4581 exacly , she was one of the few classic stars that her acting is timeless she was as wonderful in atumn sonata as she was in casablanca, she had that modern
Superstar quaility about her, to be a great actress regardless of her age, like meryl streep. She is the perfect definition for being an amazing actress regardless of her age
Others ? I love when people just generalize.. Do you really think Vivien Leigh gave a damn about her reputation ?
Well I wouldn’t call an actress who won three Oscars and with a discography of classic films like Casablanca Gaslight, and Notorious, underrated.
She was in Casa Blanca. That movie is shown in every film school.
I know back then the Rossellini affair almost killed Ingrid’s acting career but looking back at it, it was probably the best move for Ingrid’s career as she was able to build her name recognition and establish stable work in the European and art house movie market. It’s the reason she didn’t have to take demeaning hagploitation roles that unfortunately other actresses like Bette, Joan, and Olivia had to take when roles were no longer being offered to them. By not taking these roles, it saved her reputation and got her better roles in the 1960’s and 1970’s.
you're very right actually, from the great stars of the 40s very few managed to win an oscar nomination past the 60s (unless you were katherine hepburn ofc) and ingrid took the win in the 75 and another nomination just 4 years later. I guess it has to do with the well recognition that certain european cinema has as well (and that ingrid worked in herself for a decade).
Here in Italy, their story is told so differently!
The story usually starts with Bergman famous letter to Rossellini and then it is told as a love story. That created scandal, but basically a love story between two great artists
This is very interesting, thank you for giving us another perspective.
I guess this goes to show the things Americans value or how generally speaking Americans tend to "think" more negatively rather than focusing on the positives.
@@afrolatinameli.4094 Which is funny because between Czechs and Americans, we're the negative ones and tend to think of Americans as the unrealistically positive ones.
Although I have no idea how such a story would be perceived from here; in many things, Americans are definitely way more rigid than they'd like to think they are.
She is a wonderfully honest and strong presence on screen; she's capable of a huge range of characterization, from deeply dramatic to comic, with always a strong backbone. If feels as if that backbone was part of her personal integrity as well as of her screen persona. Thanks for this wonderful essay.
Woman: Publicly has a baby out of wedlock
40's press: "She's worse than Stalin!"
also they always blame the women, jolie, taylor like never the men
@@ahyan6681 because men are perfect angels who never do wrong!
@@ahyan6681 That’s true but sometimes when it’s a minority-man it can usually be the same but In context yes lol
YES. YES. YES. These videos are the only thing keeping my mental health stable.
oh my god same
Me too
Most people see her win in Murder on the Orient Express as an extended apology from Hollywood but I was truly touched by the pain and passion of her character and how much she did for such a small role.
Yep. Apology Oscar.
She should’ve won a fourth Oscar for Autumn Sonata, or shared it with Liv, they’re so incredible
I strongly believe she was bronze that year - but I dont think the academy was ready to give a non American a fourth Oscar haha
Liv should've gone Supporting, so she could have gotten it!
Look I love Jane, and now thanks to BKR I know why she won, but I think both Ingrid and Jill Clayburgh were more worthy of Oscars that year.
And Deborah Kerr should have won this Oscar. She was brilliant in King and I and never won an Oscar. She is similar to Amy Adams in their acting style and never winning after so many nominations (although Amy of course still can although apparently Hillbilly Elegy isn’t good unfortunately so not yet).
@@sarasamaletdin4574 Deborah Kerr should’ve won for Colonel Blimp
I would love to see one on Maria Felix, a major movie star in latin america and europe. Maria rejected racism and those contracts and ran away from Hollywood
Yes!
yessss love her
La Doña! Yesss!
don´t forget Dolores Del Rio! she became the queen of Hollywood for more than a decade having amazing roles... of course, all of it, before Mr. MacArthur
Dorothy Dandridge and Lena Horne!
Raise your hand if you ever had to explain to someone that Ingrid Bergman and Ingmar Bergman were not related.
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also Audrey Hepburn and Katherine Hepburn not being related
Nope never. No one in real life ever wants to talk about classic movies or actresses with me🤷♀️
I had to google it a long time ago. same with katherine hepburn and audrey hepburn
An absolutely iconic actress, Ingrid Bergman looked life in the face and said "I shall pave my own way" and proceeded to live her life with no regrets.
She had plenty of regrets....
I asked Mom why people hated her. She said that Ingrid made too many films as nuns and saints and people confused make believe with real people. That and how men get away with things that women are not allowed to do
I lol-ed so hard at "Nuovo telefono who dis". Great work as always!
we are dining like KINGS today people!
that made me laugh LOL thank you!
Tonight - we feast!
Yassssssss queen
Ok but that fancam for her hair was MAGNIFICENT
First, as a kpop stan, love the fancam. Ingrid deserves every fancam ever. Second, I love how you structured this video. Rather than simply offer the facts, you gave us nuance and something to think about. You gave us a critique of the Hollywood bubble and compared it to other films. A fantastic video all around.
Where fancam?
These men really out here calling a woman worse than Stalin for having an affair, men are tiring
I'd say people in general are tiring, not a quality reserved for males. I find you exhausting. 😬
@@jjsmith3302 :(
@@scottross8578 yes, women raised by sexist men have to have a alot of internalized misogyny groomed into them in order to be "good women" that society treats somewhat decent. When even an untrue rumor would get a girl/women treated to the way ingrid Bergman was.
That quote said her influence was more (and worse) than if Stalin and Lenin had preached (the narrator didn’t read the full quote but it was on the screen. It’s not about her character or her actions but her ability to influence (and I was seen as negative and so compared to other people with negative influence).
@@maheenm.k1015 Truth of the matter is, adultery is bad. Your deluded worldview won't change that. She made a mistake.
"her peers who had similar success at the box office, with fans and with the Academy... of which there are few" - ain't that the truth, what a Star!
I always thought Ingrid's hair should have got an award all of its own!!
...and now it has, sorta 😉
Me out here sobbing cuz our baby got a Skillshare sponsorship. She's a big shot TH-camr now.
One doesn't just click on a Be Kind Rewind video... One prepares, makes time, pours a glass of wine and enjoys Hollywood's history becoming poetry through the lives of women... Beautiful as always! Thanx!!!
Up there in the Pantheon of the greatest actors of all time. And had she only done the masterpieces that are 'Notorious', 'Stromboli', 'Voyage to Italy' and 'Autumn Sonata' it would have been more than enough for ten lifetimes of applause and adoration for her art. Glad every generation of film lovers takes up where the last one left off and is still in awe of (if not also in love with) her.
Not going to add anything about Ingrid Bergman, but it does warrant stating: if you read just about any review from Bosley Crowther today, it's astonishing what a dreadful critic he was. Product of his time and all that, yeah, but still: there's very little of his writing that holds up even relatively well, and his judgment on movies is generally much, much worse than his writing.
I wonder why some people become critics. Some seem tired of watching so many movies and are cynical about everything.
@@2degucitas I think that may be an occupational hazard for critics. They start off with a love of writing about film/theater/music but let themselves become cynical when it becomes more about the job than the writing.
YES! He was a theater critic as well and he was rubbish at that as well. I'm still salty over the way he over-hyped certain actors and destroyed others who weren't to his taste.
true i feel the same way with pauline kael god bless her soul but her reviews didn't feel like actual film reviews and more like brutual prejudice reviews, i felt bc she embodied that "not like other girls" attitude is why she was allowed in the film critics circle more than any other female critic/journalist of her time. Reading her reviews on meryl streep movies and acting talent in the 80s and 90s is a rollar coaster of cringe and confusion
Right?? Feels like every time BKR releases a new video, there's some mention of Bosley Crowther and he just comes across as out of touch (even then) and having the worst opinions on literally EVERYTHING.
This was just fabulous to watch. That Ingrid Bergman "I have no regrets" energy is such #goals. And I agree about the Stromboli hair, glad you gave it the attention it deserves!
And speaking of 1956 and that newspaper you showed, I think Deborah Kerr would make for a great video subject. Not only is she kind of underrated nowadays (at least I think so), but she lost Best Actress six times, a record unlikely to be broken. Not to mention the irony of receiving that Honorary Oscar from the hands of... Glenn Close. Just one more suggestion from one more fan ;)
um... is there something wrong with Glenn Close? What am I missing?
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 No, nothing wrong. Just funny that Glenn happened to be the person presenting the Honorary Oscar to Deborah. At the time, Deborah was one of two actresses with the most nominations without a win. Now, Glenn stands alone as the most nominated actress without a win.
@@Sibealove Oh, okay. Yes, that is an interesting coincidence. :-)
Your wish was granted!
After having a bad day, accessing TH-cam and seeing a new video from Be Kind Rewind just made me feel better. And what a rare jewel was Ingrid Bergman.
How did you manage to get the actual screenshot of exchange of text messages between Ingrid and Roberto??!! I'm SHOOK! :O
Lol
Izzy’s uncanny ability to uncover little-known primary sources is never less than astonishing, honestly.
My surprise is how Roberto used “nuevo” (Spanish) instead of “nuovo” (Italian).
He was faking being Italian?!?
Ingrid is my absolute, obsessive favourite. What a beautiful and talented woman ahead of her time. Thank you for this!
Ingrid Bergman is my favourite actress in all of classic films and Notorious is my favourite Hitchcock film. Thank you for profiling the ups and downs of her career.
''Nuevo telefono who dis''
Il telefono è nuovo, chi sei tu?
I properly speak Italian, couldn't resist.
@@Nikki-tx6kh what, no, that's not how we'd say it naturally in Italian XD "Telefono nuovo, chi sei?" is how you want to say it. But "nuovo telefono who dis" still made me lol
@equasian the only Spanish here is that the comment at the top incorrectly spelled "nuovo" and wrote the Spanish "nuevo" instead. People using Spanish words to "speak Italian" thinking they're the same languages is so common that I don't even bother to point out mistakes anymore lol
Nuevo is spanish, nuovo in italian
Cannot thank you enough for the time and effort you put into these videos
today i was rewatching your videos and thinking about who would i like to know about next, and it came to my mind ingrid bergman.... i haven´t been more surprised in a while
The videos from this channel are the most well produced on TH-cam. Factually accurate and educational. The narration carries each video along effortlessly. Wonderful job on the beautiful ❤️ Ingrid.
I'm a simple girl, I see Be Kind Rewind, I click
Me too !! 😆🥰
....and liked befor watching 👍
I am a guy, i do the same!
Your videos made me fall in love with film and its history all over again. It's always so exciting getting a notification for a new video from your channel.
I first saw her in "Casablanca" (one of my favorite films) and thought she was chosen for that role just to be "eye candy". Then I watched "Gaslight", "For Whom The Bell Tolls", and "Notorious"...and now I consider Ingrid Bergman to be one of the all-time greats.
Isabella Rossellini looks just like her mother. It's basically like Ingrid cloned herself.
"nuovo telefono who dis" okay this is seriously one of my favorite channels on this site. educational, entertaining, brilliantly researched and structured...how do you do it??? also like...so many men in hollywood, even at this point we're crafting their personas out of being ~ladies' men~ but of course bergman and not rossellini took all the heat for the scandal despite the fact that they were both married. thank you for reading my mind and calling out the eddie fisher/elizabeth taylor double standard.
Here I am, supposed to be going to the grocery store but now I’m dropping everything and everyone to watch this video NOW
Lol! I’m suppose to be getting ready for work. Did the same.
Ingrid Bergman: There never was, and never will be anyone like her.
except, perhaps, her daughter Isabella - a strong actor in her own right and remarkably like her mother in appearance
And the World will be fine. It will survive happily.
One of my favourites actresses to watch. Autumn Sonata is magnificent and my favourite with her. I didn't know anything about the backlash she went through in America. Interesting to know that American society has seldom been able to separate a real person from the roles an actor takes, good for Ingrid for leaving that bubble and pursuing growth as an artist.
Thank you for this video! Very well made, and so nice to see Ingrid Bergman getting a part of the appriciation she deserved.
I can add a bit from a Swedish perspective: She is considered to be one of our greatest actors, of course, and was very much loved here in Sweden. For us Swedes she was not a Hollywood actress that ”went rouge”, but an actress that was successfull as well as in Sweden as in other parts of Europe AND in Hollywood. And both on stage and on the screen. And she did so much more after Anastasia.
Personally, I loved that she went her own way. That she never apologized for her choices. I guess that the fact that she already had a career in Sweden, and after Stromboli also in the rest of Europe, made it easier for her to handle Hollywood’s / America’s reaction to her affair and marriage to Rossilini, than what would have been possible for an American-born actor. I can highly recommend her biography ”My Story”.
Her book is absolutely wonderful, I loved it! It's always a joy to read the words of such an articulate person.
Anastasia and its Oscar always struck me as an explicit Return on Ingrid’s part-in the film’s narrative about a “lost” princess , its characterization of her as someone with literally no memory, her willingness to play a character that conformed to her former saintly(ish) persona, that final scene where is re-glamorized in her gown and crown. The parallels to her professional return were just perfectly Classic Hollywood, and a great bit of mythmaking. Without it, would she have become quite the legend she still is?
What struck _me_ about Anastasia was how it maintains the ambiguity of her identity till the end (unlike the animated feature it inspired, for example). She wasn't returning to a persona in my view, she was simply playing a compelling, confusing and confused character.
From her point of view, I imagine, anyway. The way it played out may well be exactly how you characterised it. 🙂
I loved this video, it gave me the push to go finish watching Stromboli. Also, I loved how you let your humor intrude more in here, it's more than welcome ;)
One of my favorite of your videos; am impressed at how nuanced you are in your evaluation of Bergman's career, how she consistently looked for challenges, working in theater even when she was in the first flush of her Hollywood stardom (and winning one of the first Tony Awards). Too often, the problem with people commenting on Ingrid Bergman is that Hollywood stardom is seen as the aim of any career, as if that is the end all and be all. (In all the commentary on Katharine Hepburn, for example, her decision to do theater in the 1950s, especially her decision to do "regional" theater where she could do classics - Shakespeare and Shaw, for example - is overlooked, as if it were not an important part of her decision as to what "acting" meant for her.) And Bergman's decision to work in theater, television, as well as movies, so that she could expand her range as an actress is often neglected, but i'm glad to see you give that proper credit. She had become the biggest star in Hollywood (by the mid-1940s, a top box office star and an award-winning actress) and then she wanted to see what else was out there for her as an artist. And that's the important part: as an artist!
the Ingrid Bergman hair fan cam was iconic
Went from crying and depressed to happy and hopeful seeing the BKR notification on my phone.
This was such a great video. I was meant to be in bed ages ago, but then I saw this and I had to open a beer and spend the last half an hour here. By far, my favourite channel on this platform.
“the frankly superior 1997 animated film”(slipping in some straight truths, I see)
Yes! I loved that too.
It was because of the 1997 film that I sought out more information about the Russian royal family and eventually the 1956 film where I first discovered and fell in love with Ingrid Bergman! 🥰
Thank you for giving me a whole 30-mins of Ingrid content! (and a fan cam 😂). This is quickly becoming one of my favourite channels and really boosts my trivia game!
This is legit the only channel I have notifications turned on for
Petition for more BKR Old Hollywood fancams
I love vintage Lo-Fi, and the fact that these videos have Lo-Fi like music and vintage topics/images is absolutely lovely
Your videos are like mini Docs. So informative and entertaining. You are a very gifted storyteller. I love Ingrid Bergman and was excited to watch this. Did not disappoint.
20:53 This is the first time I’ve heard a film essayist give 1997 Anastasia the credit it deserves!
As a teen I became a huge fan of black and white films in the golden age of Hollywood. As I became aware of all the great stars, Ingrid Bergman had a special place. When I learned about her blacklist over morals charges, I was outraged and I still get emotional about it to this day. She is a supremely great actress who has nothing to apologize for. I also learned that when she attended the 1959 Academy Awards as a presenter, she was given a standing ovation. Good for her.
Absolutely love this video! Thank you for featuring Ingrid. Few months back I was binge watching Ingrid's videos on yt and this is such a wonderful addition. She's a very talented actress and it's a delight to watch her on screen. Thanks once again for this.
Love all the way from Brazil. These videos are a blessing!
Thank God, people today dont give a rat's ass about the scandal. She was human, she made mistakes, so what. I love her for what she believed in, her talent and her beauty.
I recently watched Autumn Sonata, Ingrid Bergman and Liv Ullmann was amazing and thanks for 30 minutes awesome video of Ingrid Bergman's career.
"Very quick performance in Murder on the Orient Express" Yes but what a performance! (if you haven't seen the movie go watch at least her (basically only) scene, it's 4 minutes and on youtube)
If you haven't seen the film, you must watch the whole thing and then watch it again after you know the ending. Her performance has about 1,000 more levels when you have the whole story. She was originally cast for the Princess Dragomiroff role, but asked for the charity worker instead. She knew which role she'd slay.
I love her performance there! she talks very little, it’s all about the breathing, the eyes, the body language - she, in her interrogation scene, trumps everyone else in that sea of mega movie stars
Just saw Inn of the sixth happiness at
home, Ingrid is so awesome and I think she is the greatest, but that is my own opinion!! We all have our favorites, but what convinced me is listening to her on Luxe Radio and her genius is so clear as with just her voice she inhabits her roles.
She is the best there is, thanks for this
Video 🥰❤️
Everytime you post a new video to me feels like whenever a teacher enters with a TV to the classroom
I’m not saying adultery is right, but there are many examples of Hollywood actresses committing adultery. Why did they have to single her out?
Cuz David O’Selznick made her out to be “Saint Ingrid” to the public. So her having an affair was extra shocking
It’s in the video!
@@teddypattinson5772 It’s not like Ingrid was the only actress with a positive public image. Myrna Loy was known as the perfect wife, but she was married four times.
Sometimes people fixate on an unlucky person at a specific time because they need to vent and have someone be the lightning rod to their hate as a pressure valve. Or, in other words: humans are shitty bastards with poor impulse control and want someone else to do emotional labour for them to make them feel better.
9:28 for the answer
I find myself coming back to your videos over and over again. Right now, it's sunday morning, and I'm in bed with a cup of tea, rewatching this particular video for the 4th+ time.
I think apart from the subject matter (which is really to my liking), it is due to your voice - my ear just loves your soothing timbre and then you have exceptional rhythm, I love your delivery of every single line, you land every single dot and punchline
Thank you so much for all the content so far and I'm looking forward to all the things to come!
In love with this channel!! The fancam I’m literally screaming
This is one of my favorite BKR vids. Love Izzie's impeccable research and fangirl energy in this one. Her Fancam is so well placed.... nice work. :)
My suggestion came to fruition!!! You did awesome! I'm really glad you talked about it. By the way, I like your conversation about her collaborations and the "realist" movement.
Next suggestion: Could we do a career focus on the actress Thelma Ritter? A 6 time oscar nominee in both dramatic and comedy roles, but never got the award and very few talk about her.
THE FAN CAM omg. I was just thinking about your channel this morning wondering when I'd be blessed with a new video and was very happily surprised when I got the notification for this one. I LOVE INGRID BERGMAN
When I see a notification, I click. No question. I love your content!
This was absolutely lovely. Thank you! I have been a fan of Ingrid Bergman since I watched "Ingrid Bergman Week" on my southern small-town television station's afternoon movie in 1972 when I was 13. Later at college in Chicago, I saw her movie with Rossellini and I wondered about the "scandal" of her retreat from Hollywood. Why all the fuss! You articulated for me what I always thought. Thank you.
As someone who recently watched "Anastasia" for the first time (my first Bergman film!), I have to agree: the 1997 animated musical is superior.
Another fantastically entertaining and educational video. I certainly cannot tell you're just starting out with editing. These videos are always seamless in style and presentation.
Thank you, our miss BKR, for another wonderfully made presentation on film-making in all its glory! It is always a joy to look, listen & learn alongside you.
Thank you for sharing what you see with us...
OK, I was here for the commentary on Ingrid's hair, and then the fancam KILLED ME. I loved it.
Have to say though, one of the things that bugs me most about "golden era" Hollywood movies (and pretty much all the subsequent eras) is the really glaring age differences between the romantic male and female leads, which seemed particularly pronounced in Bergman's case. It was like the movie director equivalent of self-insert fanfic.
Obviously Bergman herself liked older men, at least sometimes, and I wouldn't care if it were just an occasional thing. But over and over and over, huge age differences showing up in her films. Until, ironically, she started making those movies in Italy and Europe.
This was informative and spicy.. Thank you. Beautifully edited x
the fancam part had me rolling!
I loved this video. Ingrid Bergman is my favorite actress from that generation. And I particularly love the take on her exile. I had heard about the scandal from my father, years ago, but I didn't know the details. Please continue with your work. I am a huge fan of BKR - your delightful video series on actresses and old Hollywood.
I was having a blah day and... BAM! A new BKR video and it’s about Ingrid Bergman. Look forward to these so much.
Ingrid Bergman is literally the only reason to watch Anastasia
was Yul not good? I haven't seen this film, but he was normally pretty mesmerising to watch...
He was 👋
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 he was fine, but I'd never watch that movie just for him
Yul Brynner lol
Me before this video - :(
Me after hearing you describe Ingrid Bergman’s early successful films as “bangers” - :D
Nothing, but NOTHING perks me up like the discovery that you have posted a new video. This is such a marvelous account of one of our film star gems. Thank you so much for doing your thing!
I omg'd all over when I got a notification and saw Ingrid Bergman. Personally, I love her performance in Anastasia and thought she deserved her Oscar for it as she did Gaslight and Murder On The Orient Express. I love your exploration of her. I want to see her Rossolini films now. Also, hot take on cancel culture- everyone who condemned her would be canceled today. Those who whine about cancel culture do come from privilege and those who condemn it probably have something to hide. I feel your sharing of Ingrid Bergman's story calls that out and frames it wonderfully.
More brilliance and knowledge. Thank you, BKR.
Ingrid Bergman had such riveting, extraordinary talent. A truly unique presence that made the whole world fall in love with her.
I know nothing about film history and I just LOVE your videos. I recommend them all the time. Thanks for posting!!
Yes thank you so much for fangirling over her hair! * swoon *
You make topics I don't normally have a lot of interest in seem absolutely worth watching. Thank you
nothing better than a bkr video to make my day instantly better
Spectacular video!! Love how your editing has evolved! (The texts from Ingrid to Roberto are great!)