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The Film Room Ep. 44 - DeShone Kizer, Mitch Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, and Deshaun Watson's Debuts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2017
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I am starting to think that I may have underestimated the 2017 rookie quarterback class just a wee bit...enjoy the show!
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Wow this video has not aged well.
He believes in Hue Jackson as a coach, Deshone Kizer looks good, skeptical about Mahomes 🤣🤣🤣
I was literally about to say the same thing.
At least he admitted he was wrong about Mahomes
oof
@@CelticSlayer93 Wouldn't even say he was that wrong, it went exactly as he said. Mahomes sat out one year learning from Smith and Reid and came out a beast with his flaws gone.
This Kizer taek has not aged well
I love watching these old Brett videos cause I love him so much and it's interesting to see when he's been so horribly wrong. He's already made new videos talking about how wrong he was but it's still intriguing to listen to his arguments for the bad players and against the good ones.
Everyone is wrong at some point, especially about QBs. In fact you're more likely to be wrong than right.
I wish espn would have more x and os on tv
buckeye998197 y
They're too busy covering drama that sports fans don't care about. This is why the internet is better than TV
Jinzo
Needed to be said. I've learned more about these players from this one video than Steven A Smith has said all off season.
Life after John Madden, "NFL Playbook" and "Anatomy of a Play", sigh....
buckeye998197 y been thinking that for years.
NFL Network >>>> ESPN
These comments are really funny looking back after Mahomes starting dominating the AFC.
and won the superbowl and superbowl mvp second year starting
Dominating the League more like.
I'd love to see Skip Bayless debate someone who can break down players like Brett lol
Isvvx Skip is a joke lol nobody takes his opinion seriously besides Dallas fans. He's only there for entertainment, not valid or logical arguments.
Dallas fans don't want him. You can keep him for yourself if you would like.
Exactly lol I'm no Skip fan myself.. I'd just like to see how he'd respond/squirm his way into so BS.
Isvvx He did. Look up him VS Mark Cuban. Mark fucking embarrassed the hell outta Skip on live television.
@@isvvx what's funny is skip hates mahomes now, but when he was drafted, he said he would be good. 😂😂😂 while this guy said the nonsense he spoke. They both think they are smarter than they are
Love these comparisons videos (the in depth on a single player is also really awesome). For me I could even see a pt 2 of this video after the last pre season game :)
Your consistency and quality of analysis never ceases to amaze me brett. Keep it up!
This years QB draft class has probably been extremely underestimated.
It's just the preseason. Let's see how they do after a season or two starting.
Well, so far, I can easily say that Deshaun Watson is going to be a star in this league.
George Daugherty *Was until he tore his ACL
FreelanceXD it’s like the rivers-Eli-roethlisberger draft class
@Peace WILLIAM-WEST 3/4 of them have been to the playoffs now😂😂😂
Hey man, I just wanted to say that your videos are always awesome to watch. Thanks for doing this.
Remember what Kizer said he used to losing he take all the punishment of being a browns starting QB without breaking down like the others
Winston Lewis
What a guy
Mahomes by far the best
Still sure about “by far?” What about even the best at all?
@@TheBookOfKenny yes still sure
Lmao called it
@@TheBookOfKenny tuff luck buddy
You think Mahomes aint the best still?@@TheBookOfKenny
I always feel like a football expert after watching theses videos. Good shit, keep it up.
Holding off to give CJ Beathard an episode all to himself huh? I see what you're doing. Smart.
Marc Robinson he was actually pretty good in his 5 starts
It’s amazing to come back in 2020 and see how these players turned out! Love your videos tho
I don't think I've ever clicked a video faster in my life
Tremendous job on this video, Brett! These videos are so much more interesting than just watching straight highlights.
How do you get this footage and every angle? Link please?
NFL Game Pass. It's got every game since 2009 on it, but I think it's $99 or something like that.
I like the fact Watson has a lot more on his plate due to offensive scheme. It'll make him better in the long run if he can develop his mind first
Now he has the best passer rating of all time
@@palereapernow he’s unfortunately mediocre
Coming from another Texan's fan thank you for being so realistic when it comes to our quarterback situation I hate how they're giving too much credit to this rookie who hasn't even proved himself yet
Has he proven himself yet? lol
What about now?
Josue Oregon now he’s a beast
@@nugganggiraffe1463a beast is kinda accurate
@@toonspade4646 a straight up monster that is 😂😂
Great job! This is an impressive scouting report.
As a Browns fan, I was very excited to see Kizer's poise and arm strength, though I would really like to see him get more time to mature. I would prefer they start brock and allow kizer just a year to study and develop a little more confidence and experience. Great video as always Brett.
With Brock playing, Kizer will learn off his mistakes...which are plentiful!! Personally, if the offensive line is doing a decent job of protecting Brock and while not shitting the bed, he may be sharting in it, then put Kizer in there. If the offensive line isn't doing Brock any favors than just leave him there until the line is competent enough to protect the quarterback.
jeff vaquera let's go browns
Randy Johnson oh hell yeah brother!
jeff vaquera yeahhhhh!!!!
jeff vaquera quarterbacks don't really sit unless they have a legit veteran in there..Carr, Prescott, mariotta wentz hell even Kessler played as starters and did fine
It can't hurt you unless you still have bad throwing mechanics and don't know the plays he doesn't have any of that
Excellent content Brett. You have the voice and the detailed analysis to keep even casual football viewers like myself hooked. Keep at it!
Bro... you lost me as soon as you said you believe in HUE JACKSON as a coach. Huh?!??!
Chiguy44 ok ok ok, we all were fooled
As a offensive coordinator he was pretty decent, all of daltons good years were with him as the coordinator so he is not awful as a coordinator
It's interesting to watch this after the season. On the surface, it appears you completely misread the QB class. Watson was amazing whilst Kizer failed to win a game. Yet I think it really shows that it is impossible to read a rookie outside of a real NFL game.
Keep up the good work!
Ben Sendall absolutely true. Everyone keeps saying how wrong he was but players emerge into greatness out of nowhere. Kizer got killed by playing too soon, Trubisky did develop but starting out wasn’t great. Mahommes I’m very very excited for, and Watson was deadly
Amir Palamar And now Mahomes is the best of them all.
Lets see which QB class is better in 2019 2017 class vs 2018 class
I think 18 will be best
yea im excited about darnold and see if lamar will really be the bust everyones saying he will
I really want to see how Mayfield and Allen make in the NFL
2018 isn't as good as 2017 but it's deeper.
Stephano+ What I'm pretty sure 18 is deeper and better Lamar Jackson is looking like the 4th best qb
Great tape. From a pocket passing standpoint Kizer and Trubisky are ahead of the pack.
LiveWireRed B. Boy were you wrong. It’s ok though, I had Mahomes ranked 3rd in this class
YES!!! Thanks for the awesome work as always! Keep it up!
Another great video Brett. TRUbisky-bear down.
Mahomes looked good though, just judging from this video
Dat Le You were right. I don’t know how everyone else couldn’t see it. Even after he started blowing up, people couldn’t grasp it. Even NOW, you got people still saying he’s a one-year wonder...smh
Would you be willing to do one on Hackenberg maybe after the preseason is over? I know, as a Jets fan, that you were very high on Hack in your previous video but of course now there is all of this negative news about him being a bust. Perhaps you could explain whether he still has the chance to be a great QB and what went wrong to cause all this negative news?
MasterWu77 He did do one on Hackenberg last year. Let's just say Hackenberg hasn't lived up to Brett's glowing pre-draft review
Oh yes, I was referencing that draft profile he did last year. I thought it was a fantastic breakdown but I was simply curious as to his thoughts currently on Hack. I remember he stated that Hack should be a first round pick but everyone is now saying that Hack is no good so maybe exploring what happened in that change of mind.
I was hoping for the same thing, I was thinking you could do one after the Jets next game tomorrow, but I agree and now think doing another evaluation on Hackenberg at the end of the preseason would be better. Especially hearing his thoughts on his previous errors as a QB and what he thinks that Hackenberg has done to correct them, and if he has corrected them. If you were to do this Brett I'd wager to guess us Jets fans would greatly appreciate it.
MasterWu77 Brett Kollmann: EVERYBODY GETS ONE!
He's done a comprehensive one on Hack. Was one of his best vids.
They are more ready than Carson Wentz was last year.
This is by some of the best analysis of athletes I've heard in years.
Jeez, you're better than most football reporters. Good video, keep it up 👍🏻
I love it man. Once again a great video. Thank you.
This was a great video. thank you sooooooo much. wonderful
Another Great video. Thank you Brett
Would love to see a video on some Jets players (Darron Lee, Hack, etc.) Great work as always!
Man I love your channel. Keep up the great work!!
Never knew about this channel. This is some good stuff. Subbed.
Great analysis. As a Texans fan it hurt to hear how many flaws Deshaun Watson displayed but O'Brien's system the most complex of the four rookies' systems. Here's hoping hr picks it up quick.
There were more than 4 QBs in this class that will play dude. Cmon.
Please do the rookie RBs
TheWhiteMamba 1010 YESSSS
I have hope in Deshaun Watson. I see something in him that leads me to believe he could wind up paying off for the Texans big time.
good call my friend
@@kurtryden2152 lol
you were pretty much right about everyone except for kizer
Rooting for Kizer, was my favorite qb in the draft and hope he finds success in Cleveland!
Henry Kish yikes
@@Kaedohplaydoh lol
Kizer was my guy going into the draft, so it was a pleasant surprise to see him doing so well. Same with all of the big 4. Going to be very interesting to see how that Houston/Cleveland trade will work out long term.
Awesome vid . Well put together !:)
Do one on Tarik cohen
He's a below average RB. Solid RB2
Would you be interested about doing a video on Nathan Peterman?
Watching this video year later is pure comedy
Your breakdowns are awesome for football junkies
Brett you are a beast, huge fan here, been watching your videos for a while now, always on the lookout for whenever you release something, did want to ask you if you could give us some sweet linebacker analysis soon? Maybe a player or defense you really like? Just ideas for upcoming videos, thanks for the elite content and keep it up brother!
outstanding review and analysis
This channel is growing fast
For a second i was like why is Watson on a The Offspring video but i seen it didnt say The kids aren't alright lol
Fantastic work as always!
Trubisky and Kizer should be week 1 starters, no one on their rosters give them a better chance to win
Trubisky killed it. By far the best QB out of the 4
Still sure about “by far”? Or even the best QB at all.
dapianna23 😂😂😂😂😂😂
*wheeze*
dapianna23 this comment is okay now, but a week ago I would laugh and I’m a Bears fan lol
Yikes
Nice infor! Good job!
I'd love to hear what you think of Derek Barnett, or the Eagles front 7 or defense in general. PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN BRETT! Love your videos, keep up the awesome work!
It's crazy how I've watched football for all these years and still dont know all the schemes he talks about
love these videos, keep up the good work!
What a wonderful young man ,gives me hope for the younger generation -he is the real deal
Really glad to see this topic come up and agree in general. They all looked like they had come on a bit from college (except Mahomes as it was so hard to compare).
I have to say that I'm still sceptical on Watson though. I think his accuracy is all over the place, not just on the long throws but the short ones too. Sure, he'll complete them but so often he'll put it in the wrong place for the receiver to get YAC. I had him as a late second/third round kind of guy, along with Kaaya. The one thing in his favour that you didn't mention is his general poise - he had bags of it. Just looked like he loved playing and trying to win. I'm not saying he's a bust or anything - but I think that the accuracy will be really hard to overcome.
And that's why I'm thrilled that my team has the brilliantly accurate Trubisky for the future. Whatever kind of throw he was making - running left, right, from the pocket - he was putting the ball exactly where it needed to be. I do think that the mental side of the game isn't completely down yet, and look forward to him facing more challenging defensive plays tomorrow. He also has to get used to some of the technique (e.g. under center). But I think these things are so much easier to fix than accuracy.
At the end of the preseason you should do a video of which rookies surprised/impressed you, and which underwhelmed/disappointed you.
Dude. You're analyzing skills are great.
Lol, love seeing the video he keeps referring to 😂
everything you said about Watson was spot on
Man...Mahomes this year makes this video special to watch.
Aye I hear that Hey Arnold track lol; good content man keep it up!
The Mahommes deep ball you pointed out had him underthrow the receiver and cost them the TD.
I don't care what anyone says, Deshaun Watson is the QB that Chris Smoove be making every year on madden career mode
GO BROWNS! Great video brett
I'd love to know you're thoughts on Doug Pederson after a year.
Great video. Can you do an update after all 4 preseason games and maybe one after weeks 4, 8, and end of season? I doubt I'll be able to see a lot of their games because I'm in Florida.
More rookie class break downs! Hopefully Watson gets settled and more accurate on deep throws.
Way to sum up these QBs!
solid.
holy sheet, 390 likes 0 dislikes.
Funny how the 2 QB’s he said may not be as good are the 2 better QB’s out of the 4
Would you be able to do a film review of the New York Giants offensive line. Everyone says they're terrible but I'd like to get into the intricacies of it and you're who I immediately thought of
I love how right you were for the 2017 season (even tho Kizer was bad). And while Watson and Trubisky are doing well in 2018 fricken Mahomes has an MVP season
This guy Kollmann is a smarty.
Very nice! Thanks.
Such a good video, as usual.
I love your vids man keep up they good work
Love your videos man, they're incredible. I have noticed that the only places you seem to misdiagnose success is at the QB position. This video kinda adds to that notion in my opinion. I certainly have no clue, but 2s and 3s are typically rookies, backups, and udfas. Of course all these QBs should be having some success, they're playing against the most raw or the most unlikely to see the field. I doubt any of these QBs would have a modicum of success with JJ Watt staring down at them in killing position. I'd say pump the brakes, but then again, I have no clue. Love the Buckner video btw, you should consider diversifying your breakdowns to include whole scale roster rebuilds for bottom tier teams or just retooling teams with playoff potential. I really enjoy seeing breakdowns, but the lens of a GM is also very intriguing. Feels like you'd be good at it.
A Winston/Evans combo video could be really good.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!!!
Enjoyed the info.
Damn and he's theory was right about when the rookies were going to start
You nailed it. Mitch going in this Monday night and Mahomes is only one who won't start with red hot alex smith as QB
From all of them, i think kiser it's going to have the most success. He could read the blitz, throw beautiful deep balls, and he isn't scared to stand in the pocket. All he needs is to realize that is okay to throw the ball away if nobody isn't open. Plus i think he's gonna prove the that passed him wrong.
Ahem
Oh my god...
Damn as a Steeler i really feel like the browns will be contenders for the division in the next years.
Amazing how those little problems in the preseason for deshone kizer that couldn't quite get taken advantage of by 2nd string defenders we're completely dissected by starters.
We look at this now... Mahomes, Watson and Trubisky are the future
Great vid bro
do this again wk 2
Hopefully Trubisket keeps the hype training rolling tonight!
Great work man. I'd love to see your breakdown and analysis of the Top 4-5 RBs after preseason game 3.
Fournette
McCaffery
Mixon
Cook
Conner
Thanks.
Good video man