My Bose hearing aids arrived yesterday and I tried them out for about 2 hrs. and then boxed them up, got a return label from Bose , and shipped them back. I was hoping they'd be similar to the Hearphones in sound quality, but not. They seem to be pretty much typical hearing aids made for speech comprehension. I had a conversation with them and they do OK for that, but I've tried better. The big deal breaker for me is sound quality for music. These are loaded with sound artifacts. When I listen to classical and when I play my own instruments (Jazz and Classical). My first test of a new hearing aid is to play the open top E (E below 440 A, about 330 Hz)string on my guitar and if it sounds clean, there's hope. It did not sound clean. It sounded like the aid was trying to sing along in a weird, warbly electronic voice. Other music was hopeless, too. Like the music between news segments on a newscast. I tried different volume and tone settings and different ear tips. They also seem to be very feedbacky, the included closed dome doesn't seem to occlude very much. They don't seem to have a music mode as Dr. Cliff described in a reply to another comment of mine and I'm waiting to see if he responds to my comment about that. Bose didn't argue or tell me to try anything beyond what I already tried (volume, tone, and eartips) when I described my issue and pleasantly sent me a return label and said they would note my comments for future development. Bose is known for their reproduction of music, right? It's too bad they don't work for me. I like the hardware and they were very comfortable. For convenience I include here my description from below of the "modes" in these hearing aids and also the Hearphones (waiting for Dr. Cliff to respond). "I don't understand your description of the "Music" mode. The manual for the hearing aids says that the modes are not set up and the user must make settings as appropriate. All 4 modes are initially set to volume of 10 and tone 0, so not much amplification. This is also true for the hearphones. I don't think there's any real difference in the predefined modes and they're just convenient placeholders to be configured. Is this true? Or is there really different processing for each mode going on behind the scenes?"
Great Review and exactly what I was looking for. "How do they sound?" I'm a musician as well and my Widex Moments are too digital, compressed sounding. If I was running sound for a band and they sounded like this, I'd turn down the gain, turn up the channel volume and decrease the compression. We need a good analog Hearing aid.
Just bought these for my mom. So far so good. Took a bit of doing to connect with Bluetooth - there is a 3 min window from closing the battery doors to connecting. She says the sound is good.
Dr.Cliff, thank you for your review. I was a Bose Hearphone user for over five years and bought the Bose SoundControl hearing aids the day after they were available. I have worn them every day for several months and think they are great! Lack of Bluetooth is disappointing but not a deal breaker for me. Hearing everyday sounds - voices, nature, etc. was always my number one priority. I always have my Hearphones or other Bluetooth headphones for music, podcasts, etc. Finally, I have been professionally diagnosed with mild to moderate hearing loss, but never liked the devices suggested. The Bose Sound Control's do it for me. I could pay more but why? Thanks again, keep up the good work and let's look for an expect more new exciting advances.
Thanks John! Glad you love them. I'm sure Bose will continue to expand upon their initial version in the future. I'm looking forward to what they have in store!
I'm 49 yrs old, I drive a garbage truck (loud truck). My wife told me I need to get my hearing checked because I have the TV too loud and I can't hear her when she talks whispers. I appreciate your channel
I'm 62 and have worn very expensive hearing aids since my early 40s. I received the Bose as a gift and can say that they are by far the best hearing aids I have ever had. I used to say that my hearing aids just made my hearing loss louder. With my Bose I actually hear better. All the bells and whistles that come from expensive hearing aids are just that, bells and whistles. Bluetooth? Meh. My expensive hearing aids, which connected via Bluetooth to my iPhone, had the worst, barely understandable "sound" when I took calls from my phone. I'll take Bose any day.
@@californiahikebike Hey there. That's an interesting question. I workout with them and they're fine in the gym. They come with a "short" wire, but you can also get (at no cost) a longer wire that will set them further into your ear canal. If hiking and biking are what you intend to use them for, I'd think you'd be ok. If you did something where you were shaking your head a lot, I just can't say. I think they've got a pretty liberal return policy; you might just wanna try 'em.
I got my hearing aid from Kaiser in 2016. I wore it for a very short time and gave up. I didn't like the way I had to put it into my ear, since I was not good with my fingers. Last week a friend showed me his Bose hearphones. I loved it. I bought one from eBay. After wearing it for a while, I was bothered by the size itself, in addition to its high sensitivity. I was hearing too much "noise" too clearly. Boosting the base made it better. I considered the hearphone a very good investment. As always, I enjoyed watching your videos.
I care nothing about bluetooth, streaming, phone calls...etc. I don't need that stuff if I can hear correctly. How do they sound? That's all I care about. And I betcha, I'm not alone. The "Hearphones" was a deep, rich sound. Very natural. My Widex Moments are not. How do these sound? And when can we get ANALOG hearing aids back? Much, much better sound quality...and you can keep the bells and whistles.
Dr. CLIFF.....I.. you soo much for this review. I am a recent hearing loss candidate myself. Very irritating tinnitus and nearly 80%+ deaf in right ear. I went in to a hearing lab locally in Oak Brook, IL and they gave me a hearing test for free and threw a top of the line Starkey in my ear, and poof, just like that, ringing in right ear ceased and I literally started crying because of the level at what i was capable of hearing. Then the $$$$. I tucked tail and ran when I heard nearly $8k. My wife allowed me to Gove the Bose hearing aid a shot and am cautiously optimistic they'll work well enough to function appropriately.
After having issues with insurance and doctors office not being on the same page for almost 4 months (and still being without hearing aides) I’m going to give these a try. It’s so difficult to not hear and it’s causing my depression to worsen. I’m hoping I can at least get conversations to be more clear with these 🤞
I went to the Bose website and read the following: "While Bose is no longer manufacturing and selling SoundControl™ Hearing Aids, we are continuing to offer our complimentary technical support for those who have already purchased SoundControl."
The comment below by "Glenn Harmelin" regarding wanting a comparison to the Bose Hearphone devices actually came from me. "A few years ago, though I had Oticon OPN1 hearing aids, I picked up the Bose Hearphones for the warmer sound quality afforded by their larger diaphragms. The Oticons were comparably harsh, making me feel like my ears (and brain) were being "sliced and diced." I'm curious as to whether the sound control devices have a sound replication pattern more like my Oticons than the Hearphones. (BTW, I have two sets of the hearphones just in case no one ever makes a larger diaphragm again. They save me from hearing fatigue!)".
Dr Cliff. I have a quetion and it would ve very thoughful of you to answer me back. I have moderate to severe hearing loss and I hover between SONTRO and BOSE because of my short budget. Should I Buy one of these Pairs of hearing aids? What do You suggest me Buy? I just have $ 1000.
Good information I am just starting to consider doing something about my hearing. I will be watching more of your reviews to learn about options before I decide.
Just a note, the price of Bose SoundControl has dropped recently to $699 (usd). If you purchased recently, Bose will price match and refund the difference. I've only had my SoundControl hearing aids for a few days, but so far they seem to work well. At $700 they are approx. 1/5 the price quoted to me for HAs by my audiologist. Definitely worth trying out given the price.
Thanks for a very thorough review!! I have a set of the Bose hearing aid and I like them very much!! I only use them for golf and Church. When I want blue tooth, I go to the hearphones.
Hi, I remember in your videos you mention one time you have specilitst doctors community that you trusted them. I lost the contact or website link. can you please share that link to me so I can look around in Virginia near me and go for hearing test. last time I did but unfortunatly covid arrived and we all stuck at home. Thank you.
Dr. Cliff, like your assistant, do you think people are setting the level lower because of the noise cancelation. With noise cancelation, you would be able lower the values.
thank you so much for all your info. it really helps a lot. I had a conversation once to a higher up in the branding department at beats audio. I asked why they didn’t make hearing aid. i said it was such a huge market and why not be in it. his reply was and he had a name for the reason but i can’t remember what he called it. but it was basically because it’s not cool. he explained that they spend a lot of money on being a “cool brand”and to “tarnish” it with something like a hearing aid would hurt their brand name. SERIOUSLY WTF. i told him he was a tool and paying to be cool is never cool. what a a hole. also do they not get that most “super cool” famous musicians probably suffer from some kind of hearing loss due to loud amplification . it just such a shame these idiots don’t see that. thank you again.
Dr. Cliff, thanks for this review. As an active person my biggest issue with my current hearing aids is staying put inside my ear canal, especially when eating or in conversation. What can you report on that?
The Bose hearing aids actually to a good job of that with my ears. Of course, all ears can be different. You can't get a custom earmold with these devices like you can with others to ensure optimal retention.
Hi Dr. Cliff. So how would you listen to music ? Also would you just answer the phone regularly? Could you just put a headset on top of the hearing aids to watch TH-cam or movies on IPad?
Thank you for the review. Your reviews are always very helpful. I waited for your review before seriously considering the Bose hearing aids. The lack of a rechargeable option does not work for me. I will wait and see if Bose comes out with new versions. Thanks again.
Thank you for your honest straight forward review. Personally my expectations are not high. I have been extremely disappointed in all hearing aids. While they can be helpful for speech intelligibility none are close to what I want regardless of price. At a minimum I need 1/3 octave EQ bands and 4 parametric bands with adjustable Q. I also do not like the pre-set compression algorithms . Would prefer the ability to adjust threshold, ratio, attack and release times. Latency is also an issue on some models. Hoping some day to have all these parameters available to those who under them. Am always amazed how far behind in technology the hearing aid industry is compared to the technology that is available in the recording and sound reinforcement industries. Even the common bar band has more tools available
Gosh. Detailed explanation was good. However hardly a resounding endorsement - not just the Bluetooth miss. Are these really any different from other, less expensive, over/behind the ear devices? Sorry for the pun, but it doesn't sound like it. [Of course Cliff, you are the messenger - so for that, very grateful. Thank you!]
I am considering this for my 98 year old mother who has gone through a pair of $3500 Phonax hearing aids. She also has a pair of Otofonix that she used as a backup but doesn’t really like. I will have to program the Bose set for her since she cannot use a smart phone. Does this sound workable to you?
@@DrCliffAuD Yes, maybe, but is Bluetooth, besides being cute if occasionally unpredictable technology, with an additional $3,000~ $5,000 bucks?! It does nothing to improve the main function of hearing aids, which is allowing us to hear the person or persons with whom we are speaking, better. No?
@@billw4481 totally understand that aspect of it in an in-person conversation. I used to think of Bluetooth as a nice feature to have, but in this digital age, so much stuff is done via audio or video stream and many people struggle without Bluetooth.
I just took their hearing test (Lexie) and it said I have severe to profound hearing lose. Which I do per my audiologist. Nevertheless, it said I should try their hearing aids, thus disagreeing with the moderate only limitation of these aids. False advertising?
Please, I don't intend to be rude by asking, but the product title "Sound control" made me think of myself, I have hyperacusis in both ears. In short if you've never heard of this, no pun intended, I hear really well, and am often bothered by it. I usually wear headphones to dampen "sharp" sounds like: Glass tinking, keys jingling, doors slamming, these types of sounds can cause me a sensation of pain without physical injury actually present. I understand this product probably isn't meant for me but!: Does anything exist that would allow me to turn incoming sound up or down depending on what I need to listen to, or am I better off "self-medicating" in a sense by wearing a loose fitting headset 99% of the time I'm awake? This video just now made me consider the possibility there might be help out there for me, I thought once my audiologist told me what I was experiencing after several tests of awesome hearing, that I just needed to internally adjust myself to responding to the stimuli, however, in the past 4 months or so of trying since I saw them last, changing my reaction is much more difficult than I would have initially thought. Thank you for posting this review, I realize I'm entirely off-base from the video at hand but does anyone here have any insight?
Thanks for the video but I would like rechargeable hearing aids. Because of my Meniere's I would need to have bi-cross aids. What do you recommend if any that are over the counter and cost effective. The ones I am trying now are in the $2,000 per aid cost (ouch!)
I have been disappointed by my Bose SoundControls and after 3 months of experimentation have returned them. They are just not powerful enough for my severity of hearing loss.Their failure was a particular disappointment since I purchased them after experiencing several years of satisfaction with Bose Hearphones, which work for me to this day. I mention that both out of my respect for Bose technology and because the sole clinical evidence for FDA approval of SoundControls were studies with Hearphones, NOT SoundControls. The Hearphones remain a much more powerful device. It's a pity that their program control by the Hear App has been disabled. The manual microswitch provides a substitute (except for Treble) but is no match for the App.
Dear Dr. Cliff, A few years ago I had a phone conference with you and you recommended the Hearphones for my music interests which I bought and love but had fear when they were discontinued. I'm more interested in hearing music, both live (my own playing) and recorded (from my sound system), than speech comprehension which seems to improve with correction anyway. The Hearphones do quite well. Are these hearing aids similar in sound quality and processing? I hate artifacts in music. From what this video says about support, there is no chance of actually tweaking things like feedback control, noise reduction, compression, etc. correct? You posted this just in time. My other tab was open to the Bose purchase page and I thought I'd check to see if you had a review yet!
Hey John, when I reviewed their hearing aids, the "Music" mode is essentially a Mute mode. It removes all amplification of the Hearing Aids. I'm guessing that was done for a reason. There is no feedback control, noise reduction, or compression adjustments that you can make. Compression seems to be adjustable through the World volume but you can't adjust compression settings independently.
@@DrCliffAuD I don't understand your description of the "Music" mode. The manual for the hearing aids says that the modes are not set up and the user must make settings as appropriate. All 4 modes are initially set to volume of 10 and tone 0, so not much amplification. This is also true for the hearphones. I don't think there's any real difference in the predefined modes and they're just convenient placeholders to be configured. Is this true? Or is there really different processing for each mode going on behind the scenes? It seems that these (and hearphones) are kind of like reading glasses in that if they work, fine, otherwise keep looking for another solution. Anyway, I ordered some and I'm hoping they're enough like the hearphones that I'll like them. 90 day return policy.
Great review, as always 👍 interestingly, I also turn the volume down on my audiologist programmed hearing aids, at full volume all the background noise is just too loud and sound generally is unnatural. And yes, real ear measurements were performed at the fitting. As viewer from the UK, your description of a “thick British accent” made me chuckle 😂kind of wondering what accent Daniel had!
Isn't it a good thing that your assistant chose a lower listening level than the target? (If it works in a real world setting) I mean, less amplification creates less future damage based on amplification right?
A big Bose fan and a big Doctor Cliff fan and subscriber! I see they've done a deep discount ($150.00) on their units. I'm hoping it's an early alert that they're dumping inventory with the plan for the next gen hearing aid- with Bluetooth (streaming and calls!) like the competition. I keep calling them peppering them with the fact that I'm a holdout, awaiting them getting on board. You have any news on this hoped-for possibility?
They are dumping inventory because they are getting out of the hearing aid space. From what I've heard, sales have been okay, but 60+% of people who purchase are not actual candidates for their tech and they have nothing else to sell them. Ultimately, their devices are WAY TOO LOW COST to turn a profit in the space. Bad news for other OTC/DTC companies who think that a low cost model will be profitable in the hearing care space.
@@DrCliffAuD Thanks for the prompt, very helpful reply, all of which changes the "landscape" of my thinking (hearing!!!). Now I'm wondering if I should make the Bose jump or go in a completely different direction, opting for some of your recommend vendors who offer full Bluetooth capabilities. . .
I have a mild, mostly straight line hearing loss and I like the Bose better than my expensive professionally adjusted hearing aids. But speech clarity is better without either one. Both types clip or compress the sound waves. I wish there were pure amplification without distortion. Why is that so tough?
Good review on Bose basic product...Doc you are quite a Bose homey though...any thoughts on Listen Lively product line. We are getting bombarded with TV ads here in WI..thx as always... Dr.J😎😄👍
Doctor Cliff, I have a pair of hearing aids from Phonics and i'm completely deaf in one ear. so what I have is the hearing aid that is in my deaf ear is bluetooth and it sends a signal to my other ear hearing aid so I can hear what is on my deaf ear side. does Bose have an hearing aid that does the same?
I got my first set of hearing aids from audiologist. Do all hearing aids sound like a broken speaker? Sound quality is horrible , but yeah can hear now
Great Review!!! BUT no bluetooth connectivity to make phone calls-Thats a dealbreaker, I'll wait. I'm a starkey hearing aid user and my audio guy wants me to upgrade every 4 years with another $5200 - $7,000 set of hearing aids. Us retirees can't afford that every few years and Medicare covers Zero
I too am a Bose fan but I don't understand how the APP can be used to correct for a users hearing loss in the same manner as a hearing professional can or that the FDA approved it as a hearing aid.
Wow, Cliff ... great review. 😁 I would really miss Bluetooth, however. But it sounds like Bose is doing a good job of helping people hear better. As for me, I'm still going to continue visiting my favorite audiologist! 😉
Would the Bose hearing aids do well in reducing the volume of sudden nearby very loud sounds -- like a fire engine, for example -- in order to protect hearing?
@@DrCliffAuD Thanks, Dr. Cliff! Do other name brand hearing aids offer such protection? How can a buyer tell which ones suppress very loud sounds in order to avoid hearing damage?
Great video Doc. I did the online hearing test (2 different ones), and indications for me were mild to moderate hearing loss. I am thinking about getting these Boze hearing aids and then adjusting them until I get normal hearing readings with the online test. I am considering that after a couple of adjustments a week for a few months with these online test I should get relatively close to normal hearing results. As Jack Nicholson said, "As Good As It Gets." This is my experiment anyway, will let you know how it works.
As a hearing aid wearer !!! I bought “Budget” hearing aids !!!!! As I steeped UP !!!!! Night n Day !!!! Your Family will know the difference !! BUT YOU WILL KNOW !!! I spent $500.-$1200.- now $3000. !!!!!! I can hear WAY better !!! If yoy had slight loss ? Bose ! BUT your degeneration ? Most CANT be reclaimed !! Think about it !! GOD BLESS
Thanks for the great video. I would have thought they would be better than other hearing aids and no bluetooth? No thanks. I'll stick with my Costco Kirklands for now.
Thanks but stopped watching when you said there's no support for bluetooth steaming. Personally, bluetooth isn't just a "nice to have" gimmick but is essential. With non bluetooth aids I have to remove my aid to answer the phone otherwise it will amplify the surrounding sounds even if mitigated to some extent through the use of a programme. I think I will stick with my Phonak Marvel.
Will these kind of products drive the price of major hearing aid brands down from their bloated pricing? My guess is that even Dr Cliff is hoping for that based on his unbiased good review of this product. Thumbs up!
I spent almost 5000 dollars on some Starkey and it is not what I expected, the app does not work well either. If anyone needs hearing aids, i would try these bose first
I have a question, my ear was feeling clogged up so i did that blowing method where you hold your nose and blow air. It made one of my ears better but it made the other one feel even more clogged. Is it anything serious or just something else?
@@stlouie88 - Smoking shut my air volume down which in turn closed my right tube so as I cannot fully pop it. (At one point no movement at all when I tried to pop, but now I get an incomplete but some relief of pressure pop. I am recovering my air after years and years of no smoking ,and I remember as a kid it was just barely open. Hoping to get back there before I die! Try a Neti Pot if you haven’t. It can get deep in there. Good luck!
Dr. Cliff, will the Bose work for single-sided hearing loss (CROS - which I learned about from another of your videos!!!)? My bad ear is highly distorted when I use headphones. Thank you.
Sadly, Bose abandoned further improvements of the original concept of " conversation enhancer". A collar and regular headphones are an alternative, attractive solution for bypassing the discomfort of sticking artifacts into the ear canal. For people like me, it causes a nearly allergic reaction.
I have the phonak audeo M90 RT. I find them too big behind the ear. And now the new model came out. Which would you recommend? And yes I love the Bluetooth streaming.
A few years ago, though I had Oticon OPN1 hearing aids, I picked up the Bose Hearphones for the warmer sound quality afforded by their larger diaphragms. The Oticons were comparably harsh, making me feel like my ears (and brain) were being "sliced and diced." I'm curious as to whether the sound control devices have a sound replication pattern more like my Oticons than the Hearphones. (BTW, I have two sets of the hearphones just in case no one ever makes a larger diaphragm again. They save me from hearing fatigue!)
Great review as always Dr Cliff! I would like to point out that nothing replaces service you get from a good audiologist or hearing aid dispenser. Having someone that can help you though the hurdle of accepting a hearing loss is worth the extra cost. I understand this may get folks who are maybe in on the fence a push start, I would recommend to take that 850 and get something that you will be more happy with in the long run.
So you're telling me that not only did bose sell me a pair of headphones for 400+ dollars that ultimately gave me Tinnitus and hearing loss, but I can now spend however much on hearing aids to fix it?! How convenient! 🤬
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My Bose hearing aids arrived yesterday and I tried them out for about 2 hrs. and then boxed them up, got a return label from Bose , and shipped them back. I was hoping they'd be similar to the Hearphones in sound quality, but not. They seem to be pretty much typical hearing aids made for speech comprehension. I had a conversation with them and they do OK for that, but I've tried better. The big deal breaker for me is sound quality for music. These are loaded with sound artifacts. When I listen to classical and when I play my own instruments (Jazz and Classical). My first test of a new hearing aid is to play the open top E (E below 440 A, about 330 Hz)string on my guitar and if it sounds clean, there's hope. It did not sound clean. It sounded like the aid was trying to sing along in a weird, warbly electronic voice. Other music was hopeless, too. Like the music between news segments on a newscast. I tried different volume and tone settings and different ear tips. They also seem to be very feedbacky, the included closed dome doesn't seem to occlude very much. They don't seem to have a music mode as Dr. Cliff described in a reply to another comment of mine and I'm waiting to see if he responds to my comment about that. Bose didn't argue or tell me to try anything beyond what I already tried (volume, tone, and eartips) when I described my issue and pleasantly sent me a return label and said they would note my comments for future development. Bose is known for their reproduction of music, right?
It's too bad they don't work for me. I like the hardware and they were very comfortable.
For convenience I include here my description from below of the "modes" in these hearing aids and also the Hearphones (waiting for Dr. Cliff to respond).
"I don't understand your description of the "Music" mode. The manual for the hearing aids says that the modes are not set up and the user must make settings as appropriate. All 4 modes are initially set to volume of 10 and tone 0, so not much amplification. This is also true for the hearphones. I don't think there's any real difference in the predefined modes and they're just convenient placeholders to be configured. Is this true? Or is there really different processing for each mode going on behind the scenes?"
Great Review and exactly what I was looking for. "How do they sound?" I'm a musician as well and my Widex Moments are too digital, compressed sounding. If I was running sound for a band and they sounded like this, I'd turn down the gain, turn up the channel volume and decrease the compression.
We need a good analog Hearing aid.
Just bought these for my mom. So far so good. Took a bit of doing to connect with Bluetooth - there is a 3 min window from closing the battery doors to connecting. She says the sound is good.
Dr.Cliff, thank you for your review. I was a Bose Hearphone user for over five years and bought the Bose SoundControl hearing aids the day after they were available. I have worn them every day for several months and think they are great! Lack of Bluetooth is disappointing but not a deal breaker for me. Hearing everyday sounds - voices, nature, etc. was always my number one priority. I always have my Hearphones or other Bluetooth headphones for music, podcasts, etc. Finally, I have been professionally diagnosed with mild to moderate hearing loss, but never liked the devices suggested. The Bose Sound Control's do it for me. I could pay more but why? Thanks again, keep up the good work and let's look for an expect more new exciting advances.
Thanks John! Glad you love them. I'm sure Bose will continue to expand upon their initial version in the future. I'm looking forward to what they have in store!
I'm 49 yrs old, I drive a garbage truck (loud truck). My wife told me I need to get my hearing checked because I have the TV too loud and I can't hear her when she talks whispers. I appreciate your channel
I'm 62 and have worn very expensive hearing aids since my early 40s. I received the Bose as a gift and can say that they are by far the best hearing aids I have ever had. I used to say that my hearing aids just made my hearing loss louder. With my Bose I actually hear better. All the bells and whistles that come from expensive hearing aids are just that, bells and whistles. Bluetooth? Meh. My expensive hearing aids, which connected via Bluetooth to my iPhone, had the worst, barely understandable "sound" when I took calls from my phone. I'll take Bose any day.
Hello, Myles,
i want to buy it to my 93 year old grandpa, do you recommend??
Hey Myles....I'm pretty active. Do these stay put in your ear canal? My biggest problem with current aids.
@@californiahikebike Hey there. That's an interesting question. I workout with them and they're fine in the gym. They come with a "short" wire, but you can also get (at no cost) a longer wire that will set them further into your ear canal. If hiking and biking are what you intend to use them for, I'd think you'd be ok. If you did something where you were shaking your head a lot, I just can't say. I think they've got a pretty liberal return policy; you might just wanna try 'em.
I agree. I actually like that they went simple. I don't use hearing aids for streaming I have my phone for that.
I got my hearing aid from Kaiser in 2016. I wore it for a very short time and gave up. I didn't like the way I had to put it into my ear, since I was not good with my fingers. Last week a friend showed me his Bose hearphones. I loved it. I bought one from eBay. After wearing it for a while, I was bothered by the size itself, in addition to its high sensitivity. I was hearing too much "noise" too clearly. Boosting the base made it better. I considered the hearphone a very good investment. As always, I enjoyed watching your videos.
They are amazing; I have tried so many hearing aid and couldn’t use more then 3 hrs; Bose are perfect
Grateful a company with a trusted brand is putting a quality product on the market at an affordable price.
Kudos to Bose for making an affordable hearing aid! I hope that more hearing aid company will follow them.
I care nothing about bluetooth, streaming, phone calls...etc. I don't need that stuff if I can hear correctly.
How do they sound? That's all I care about. And I betcha, I'm not alone.
The "Hearphones" was a deep, rich sound. Very natural. My Widex Moments are not. How do these sound?
And when can we get ANALOG hearing aids back? Much, much better sound quality...and you can keep the bells and whistles.
I agree with you 100%. All of these people saying no Bluetooth is a deal breaker is strange to me. Like what you really getting hearing aids for?
As always very informative!! Wish they came up with a single ear deafness device
Dr. CLIFF.....I.. you soo much for this review. I am a recent hearing loss candidate myself. Very irritating tinnitus and nearly 80%+ deaf in right ear. I went in to a hearing lab locally in Oak Brook, IL and they gave me a hearing test for free and threw a top of the line Starkey in my ear, and poof, just like that, ringing in right ear ceased and I literally started crying because of the level at what i was capable of hearing. Then the $$$$. I tucked tail and ran when I heard nearly $8k. My wife allowed me to Gove the Bose hearing aid a shot and am cautiously optimistic they'll work well enough to function appropriately.
Did you get a chance to try them?
@milo963 Yes, and the right hearing aid continues to disconnect.
After having issues with insurance and doctors office not being on the same page for almost 4 months (and still being without hearing aides) I’m going to give these a try. It’s so difficult to not hear and it’s causing my depression to worsen. I’m hoping I can at least get conversations to be more clear with these 🤞
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I went to the Bose website and read the following: "While Bose is no longer manufacturing and selling SoundControl™ Hearing Aids, we are continuing to offer our complimentary technical support for those who have already purchased SoundControl."
The comment below by "Glenn Harmelin" regarding wanting a comparison to the Bose Hearphone devices actually came from me. "A few years ago, though I had Oticon OPN1 hearing aids, I picked up the Bose Hearphones for the warmer sound quality afforded by their larger diaphragms. The Oticons were comparably harsh, making me feel like my ears (and brain) were being "sliced and diced." I'm curious as to whether the sound control devices have a sound replication pattern more like my Oticons than the Hearphones. (BTW, I have two sets of the hearphones just in case no one ever makes a larger diaphragm again. They save me from hearing fatigue!)".
It’s crazy to me that of all companies, Bose didn’t include audio steaming.
Ironic ain't it?🤣 You'd think so because they're an audio company
Thanks for your very balanced and thorough review. Excellent!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dr Cliff. I have a quetion and it would ve very thoughful of you to answer me back. I have moderate to severe hearing loss and I hover between SONTRO and BOSE because of my short budget. Should I Buy one of these Pairs of hearing aids? What do You suggest me Buy? I just have $ 1000.
Good information I am just starting to consider doing something about my hearing. I will be watching more of your reviews to learn about options before I decide.
Please focus on or give information for Tinitus control devices....we need that now...thanks
Would my tinnitus have any impact on your recommendation for this product?
Just a note, the price of Bose SoundControl has dropped recently to $699 (usd). If you purchased recently, Bose will price match and refund the difference.
I've only had my SoundControl hearing aids for a few days, but so far they seem to work well. At $700 they are approx. 1/5 the price quoted to me for HAs by my audiologist. Definitely worth trying out given the price.
If you like them. I would purchase a few more sets. I don't expect them to be around much longer.
Thanks for a very thorough review!!
I have a set of the Bose hearing aid and I like them very much!! I only use them for golf and Church. When I want blue tooth, I go to the hearphones.
Hi, I remember in your videos you mention one time you have specilitst doctors community that you trusted them. I lost the contact or website link. can you please share that link to me so I can look around in Virginia near me and go for hearing test. last time I did but unfortunatly covid arrived and we all stuck at home. Thank you.
Dr. Cliff, like your assistant, do you think people are setting the level lower because of the noise cancelation. With noise cancelation, you would be able lower the values.
thank you so much for all your info. it really helps a lot. I had a conversation once to a higher up in the branding department at beats audio. I asked why they didn’t make hearing aid. i said it was such a huge market and why not be in it. his reply was and he had a name for the reason but i can’t remember what he called it. but it was basically because it’s not cool. he explained that they spend a lot of money on being a “cool brand”and to “tarnish” it with something like a hearing aid would hurt their brand name. SERIOUSLY WTF. i told him he was a tool and paying to be cool is never cool. what a a hole. also do they not get that most “super cool” famous musicians probably suffer from some kind of hearing loss due to loud amplification . it just such a shame these idiots don’t see that. thank you again.
Hello Cliff, I am new subscriber. Do you have a recommendation for mild hearing loss with left ear tinnitus? Thank you kindly.
Thanks for the review Dr. Cliff. What do you think about how well this hearing aid can work with low frequency hearing loss?
Hello Doctor. Are there any hearing aids where one can selectively amplify specific frequencies, as opposed to simply treble and bass?
Dr Cliff.. I deaf from Menier’s disease in my right ear 10 years ago. Are there hearing aids available for my left ear only?
Dr. Cliff, thanks for this review. As an active person my biggest issue with my current hearing aids is staying put inside my ear canal, especially when eating or in conversation. What can you report on that?
The Bose hearing aids actually to a good job of that with my ears. Of course, all ears can be different. You can't get a custom earmold with these devices like you can with others to ensure optimal retention.
Hi Dr. Cliff. So how would you listen to music ? Also would you just answer the phone regularly? Could you just put a headset on top of the hearing aids to watch TH-cam or movies on IPad?
Thank you for the review. Your reviews are always very helpful. I waited for your review before seriously considering the Bose hearing aids. The lack of a rechargeable option does not work for me. I will wait and see if Bose comes out with new versions. Thanks again.
How well do they stay in your ear if you are physically active, biking, running, etc?
Thanks for the review.
Thank you for your honest straight forward review. Personally my expectations are not high. I have been extremely disappointed in all hearing aids. While they can be helpful for speech intelligibility none are close to what I want regardless of price. At a minimum I need 1/3 octave EQ bands and 4 parametric bands with adjustable Q. I also do not like the pre-set compression algorithms . Would prefer the ability to adjust threshold, ratio, attack and release times. Latency is also an issue on some models. Hoping some day to have all these parameters available to those who under them. Am always amazed how far behind in technology the hearing aid industry is compared to the technology that is available in the recording and sound reinforcement industries. Even the common bar band has more tools available
Great very fair review. Very informative thank you.
I might purchase one of these for my stepdad. Are regular hearing aids that much more than these Bose?
Yes, professionally fit prescription hearing aids are more expensive than Bose.
Gosh. Detailed explanation was good. However hardly a resounding endorsement - not just the Bluetooth miss. Are these really any different from other, less expensive, over/behind the ear devices? Sorry for the pun, but it doesn't sound like it. [Of course Cliff, you are the messenger - so for that, very grateful. Thank you!]
I am considering this for my 98 year old mother who has gone through a pair of $3500 Phonax hearing aids. She also has a pair of Otofonix that she used as a backup but doesn’t really like. I will have to program the Bose set for her since she cannot use a smart phone. Does this sound workable to you?
Thanks for the detailed review! No Bluetooth streaming is a deal breaker.
Yeah, you would think Bose could fit that in.
Yeah, no Bluetooth is a bummer for sure.
@@DrCliffAuD Yes, maybe, but is Bluetooth, besides being cute if occasionally unpredictable technology, with an additional $3,000~ $5,000 bucks?! It does nothing to improve the main function of hearing aids, which is allowing us to hear the person or persons with whom we are speaking, better. No?
@@billw4481 totally understand that aspect of it in an in-person conversation. I used to think of Bluetooth as a nice feature to have, but in this digital age, so much stuff is done via audio or video stream and many people struggle without Bluetooth.
On disposable hearing aids, you could connect them with a special cable to a 3.5 MM jack. Curious as to why Bose excluded this.
I just took their hearing test (Lexie) and it said I have severe to profound hearing lose. Which I do per my audiologist. Nevertheless, it said I should try their hearing aids, thus disagreeing with the moderate only limitation of these aids. False advertising?
Please, I don't intend to be rude by asking, but the product title "Sound control" made me think of myself, I have hyperacusis in both ears. In short if you've never heard of this, no pun intended, I hear really well, and am often bothered by it. I usually wear headphones to dampen "sharp" sounds like: Glass tinking, keys jingling, doors slamming, these types of sounds can cause me a sensation of pain without physical injury actually present.
I understand this product probably isn't meant for me but!:
Does anything exist that would allow me to turn incoming sound up or down depending on what I need to listen to, or am I better off "self-medicating" in a sense by wearing a loose fitting headset 99% of the time I'm awake?
This video just now made me consider the possibility there might be help out there for me, I thought once my audiologist told me what I was experiencing after several tests of awesome hearing, that I just needed to internally adjust myself to responding to the stimuli, however, in the past 4 months or so of trying since I saw them last, changing my reaction is much more difficult than I would have initially thought.
Thank you for posting this review, I realize I'm entirely off-base from the video at hand but does anyone here have any insight?
Excellent detailed review!
Doctor Cliff, in your opinion do you think these Bose hearing aids would help with tinnitus?
It is possible, yes.
Great stuff!!!
Thanks for the video but I would like rechargeable hearing aids. Because of my Meniere's I would need to have bi-cross aids. What do you recommend if any that are over the counter and cost effective. The ones I am trying now are in the $2,000 per aid cost (ouch!)
I have been disappointed by my Bose SoundControls and after 3 months of experimentation have returned them. They are just not powerful enough for my severity of hearing loss.Their failure was a particular disappointment since I purchased them after experiencing several years of satisfaction with Bose Hearphones, which work for me to this day. I mention that both out of my respect for Bose technology and because the sole clinical evidence for FDA approval of SoundControls were studies with Hearphones, NOT SoundControls. The Hearphones remain a much more powerful device. It's a pity that their program control by the Hear App has been disabled. The manual microswitch provides a substitute (except for Treble) but is no match for the App.
Dear Dr. Cliff,
A few years ago I had a phone conference with you and you recommended the Hearphones for my music interests which I bought and love but had fear when they were discontinued. I'm more interested in hearing music, both live (my own playing) and recorded (from my sound system), than speech comprehension which seems to improve with correction anyway. The Hearphones do quite well. Are these hearing aids similar in sound quality and processing? I hate artifacts in music. From what this video says about support, there is no chance of actually tweaking things like feedback control, noise reduction, compression, etc. correct?
You posted this just in time. My other tab was open to the Bose purchase page and I thought I'd check to see if you had a review yet!
Hey John, when I reviewed their hearing aids, the "Music" mode is essentially a Mute mode. It removes all amplification of the Hearing Aids. I'm guessing that was done for a reason. There is no feedback control, noise reduction, or compression adjustments that you can make. Compression seems to be adjustable through the World volume but you can't adjust compression settings independently.
@@DrCliffAuD I don't understand your description of the "Music" mode. The manual for the hearing aids says that the modes are not set up and the user must make settings as appropriate. All 4 modes are initially set to volume of 10 and tone 0, so not much amplification. This is also true for the hearphones. I don't think there's any real difference in the predefined modes and they're just convenient placeholders to be configured. Is this true? Or is there really different processing for each mode going on behind the scenes?
It seems that these (and hearphones) are kind of like reading glasses in that if they work, fine, otherwise keep looking for another solution. Anyway, I ordered some and I'm hoping they're enough like the hearphones that I'll like them. 90 day return policy.
Great review, as always 👍 interestingly, I also turn the volume down on my audiologist programmed hearing aids, at full volume all the background noise is just too loud and sound generally is unnatural. And yes, real ear measurements were performed at the fitting. As viewer from the UK, your description of a “thick British accent” made me chuckle 😂kind of wondering what accent Daniel had!
Can they be worn as a replacement for a cros device ?
Great advice,
Isn't it a good thing that your assistant chose a lower listening level than the target? (If it works in a real world setting) I mean, less amplification creates less future damage based on amplification right?
IF fit properly, the hearing aids would not cause additional hearing loss.
Very late but the Lexie B1(same thing, Lexie just sells the product now) has an IP rating of 67
I have tinnitus pretty bad.I wonder if they would help folks like me. We want a stereo type effect if that is ever possible.
A big Bose fan and a big Doctor Cliff fan and subscriber! I see they've done a deep discount ($150.00) on their units. I'm hoping it's an early alert that they're dumping inventory with the plan for the next gen hearing aid- with Bluetooth (streaming and calls!) like the competition. I keep calling them peppering them with the fact that I'm a holdout, awaiting them getting on board.
You have any news on this hoped-for possibility?
They are dumping inventory because they are getting out of the hearing aid space. From what I've heard, sales have been okay, but 60+% of people who purchase are not actual candidates for their tech and they have nothing else to sell them. Ultimately, their devices are WAY TOO LOW COST to turn a profit in the space. Bad news for other OTC/DTC companies who think that a low cost model will be profitable in the hearing care space.
@@DrCliffAuD Thanks for the prompt, very helpful reply, all of which changes the "landscape" of my thinking (hearing!!!). Now I'm wondering if I should make the Bose jump or go in a completely different direction, opting for some of your recommend vendors who offer full Bluetooth capabilities. . .
Is all phonak rechargeable hearing aids support Bluetooth or is there just certain phonak hearing aids that does?
I have a mild, mostly straight line hearing loss and I like the Bose better than my expensive professionally adjusted hearing aids. But speech clarity is better without either one. Both types clip or compress the sound waves. I wish there were pure amplification without distortion. Why is that so tough?
Good review on Bose basic product...Doc you are quite a Bose homey though...any thoughts on Listen Lively product line. We are getting bombarded with TV ads here in WI..thx as always...
Dr.J😎😄👍
Lively is 3rd tier previous technology Resound hearing Aids with remote care only, that are too expensive for what you get IMO.
@@DrCliffAuD Thanx Doc for a speedy reply on Lively...have a fabulous week 🏃😎👍🔝😺
Doctor Cliff, I have a pair of hearing aids from Phonics and i'm completely deaf in one ear. so what I have is the hearing aid that is in my deaf ear is bluetooth and it sends a signal to my other ear hearing aid so I can hear what is on my deaf ear side. does Bose have an hearing aid that does the same?
What about those of us who have microtia and only need one hearing aid? Can we either get two of the same ear, or a single aid?
If the Bose were rechargeable I'd buy them! The reviews are saying the batteries only last a few days.
They now have a rechargeable one.
I got my first set of hearing aids from audiologist. Do all hearing aids sound like a broken speaker? Sound quality is horrible , but yeah can hear now
Ask them if they performed Test Box Measures to ensure your devices are within ANSI specifications for distortion levels.
Great Review!!! BUT no bluetooth connectivity to make phone calls-Thats a dealbreaker, I'll wait. I'm a starkey hearing aid user and my audio guy wants me to upgrade every 4 years with another $5200 - $7,000 set of hearing aids. Us retirees can't afford that every few years and Medicare covers Zero
do these have full ear mold?
I too am a Bose fan but I don't understand how the APP can be used to correct for a users hearing loss in the same manner as a hearing professional can or that the FDA approved it as a hearing aid.
I too have to agree the loss of BlueTooth would be a deal breaker. You didn’t happen to mention how many channels these Bose hearing aids are.
Does your assistant currently use traditional amplification?
Thank you sir.
Wow, Cliff ... great review. 😁 I would really miss Bluetooth, however. But it sounds like Bose is doing a good job of helping people hear better. As for me, I'm still going to continue visiting my favorite audiologist! 😉
Good to hear💕👏🏼👍🏻
Would the Bose hearing aids do well in reducing the volume of sudden nearby very loud sounds -- like a fire engine, for example -- in order to protect hearing?
No. Absolutely not!
@@DrCliffAuD Thanks, Dr. Cliff! Do other name brand hearing aids offer such protection? How can a buyer tell which ones suppress very loud sounds in order to avoid hearing damage?
Dears
I have sever hearing problem . I need modern hearing aid like the one fit inside the ear or Bluetooth assisted. Who can help me please?
Dr Cliff has the recent update made any difference to the hearing functionality of the airpods pro
No Bluetooth- deal breaker at any price.
Yeah, they really need Bluetooth.
No Bluetooth? What were they thinking?
@@murrayscott3585 probably a reason that has to do with some contract
Great video Doc. I did the online hearing test (2 different ones), and indications for me were mild to moderate hearing loss. I am thinking about getting these Boze hearing aids and then adjusting them until I get normal hearing readings with the online test. I am considering that after a couple of adjustments a week for a few months with these online test I should get relatively close to normal hearing results. As Jack Nicholson said, "As Good As It Gets." This is my experiment anyway, will let you know how it works.
As a hearing aid wearer !!!
I bought “Budget” hearing aids !!!!!
As I steeped UP !!!!! Night n Day !!!! Your Family will know the difference !!
BUT YOU WILL KNOW !!! I spent $500.-$1200.- now $3000. !!!!!!
I can hear WAY better !!! If yoy had slight loss ? Bose ! BUT your degeneration ? Most CANT be reclaimed !!
Think about it !!
GOD BLESS
Do they have a setting to treat Tinnitus? If you have insurance it might be cheaper and better to go through an audiologist. No Bluetooth?
Best go for Starkey hearing aid
As usual a fair and even review Dr C. Still waiting for your Olive Pro one though?
@Phil Dallek, the Olive Pro's are horrible. Still working on the review, but I've been prioritizing other stuff.
@@DrCliffAuD ah, pretty much the same conclusion that I came to. Thanks for your thoughts 👍
Thanks for the great video. I would have thought they would be better than other hearing aids and no bluetooth? No thanks. I'll stick with my Costco Kirklands for now.
Thanks but stopped watching when you said there's no support for bluetooth steaming. Personally, bluetooth isn't just a "nice to have" gimmick but is essential. With non bluetooth aids I have to remove my aid to answer the phone otherwise it will amplify the surrounding sounds even if mitigated to some extent through the use of a programme. I think I will stick with my Phonak Marvel.
Will these kind of products drive the price of major hearing aid brands down from their bloated pricing? My guess is that even Dr Cliff is hoping for that based on his unbiased good review of this product.
Thumbs up!
Thank you.
I spent almost 5000 dollars on some Starkey and it is not what I expected, the app does not work well either.
If anyone needs hearing aids, i would try these bose first
I have a question, my ear was feeling clogged up so i did that blowing method where you hold your nose and blow air. It made one of my ears better but it made the other one feel even more clogged. Is it anything serious or just something else?
Your eustachian tube is probably clogged. My right side has been un-poppable for 45 years.
@@THINJIMI geez!! No ENT has been able to help you for 45 years??!
@@stlouie88 - Smoking shut my air volume down which in turn closed my right tube so as I cannot fully pop it. (At one point no movement at all when I tried to pop, but now I get an incomplete but some relief of pressure pop. I am recovering my air after years and years of no smoking ,and I remember as a kid it was just barely open. Hoping to get back there before I die! Try a Neti Pot if you haven’t. It can get deep in there. Good luck!
Dr. Cliff, will the Bose work for single-sided hearing loss (CROS - which I learned about from another of your videos!!!)? My bad ear is highly distorted when I use headphones. Thank you.
No it will not.
If we bought these and took them to an audiologist to program, would they program it for us? Seems like self programming is inefficient.
Yes, they could.
PANO po mag order
Any info on Sennheiser hearing aids?
Dr. Cliff, will you be able to review Sharkey's Evolve and Picasso? Thank you!
Sadly, Bose abandoned further improvements of the original concept of " conversation enhancer". A collar and regular headphones are an alternative, attractive solution for bypassing the discomfort of sticking artifacts into the ear canal. For people like me, it causes a nearly allergic reaction.
I have the phonak audeo M90 RT.
I find them too big behind the ear.
And now the new model came out.
Which would you recommend? And yes I love the Bluetooth streaming.
By which would you recommend? Would you switch to the new model?
No, the new models are just as thick or thicker.
Dr plz what's the price of marvel m 90 and paradise b 90 of wireless phonak
That information is available on Phonaks internet site.
You should put subtitles in Spanish, your channel is good but there are people who need all the information in our language. Thank you
If you have $30,000 USD, I could subtitle all of my videos in Spanish!
A few years ago, though I had Oticon OPN1 hearing aids, I picked up the Bose Hearphones for the warmer sound quality afforded by their larger diaphragms. The Oticons were comparably harsh, making me feel like my ears (and brain) were being "sliced and diced." I'm curious as to whether the sound control devices have a sound replication pattern more like my Oticons than the Hearphones. (BTW, I have two sets of the hearphones just in case no one ever makes a larger diaphragm again. They save me from hearing fatigue!)
Great review as always Dr Cliff! I would like to point out that nothing replaces service you get from a good audiologist or hearing aid dispenser. Having someone that can help you though the hurdle of accepting a hearing loss is worth the extra cost. I understand this may get folks who are maybe in on the fence a push start, I would recommend to take that 850 and get something that you will be more happy with in the long run.
bose really appeal to me I LOVE THEIR SYSTEMS .
HOWEVER . YOUR ONE REVEIW TERRIFIED ME .
SO MY DECISION IS TO JUST PLUG ALONG AS I HAVE BEEN DOING
No bluetooth is a deal breaker in 2021, never going back
So you've heard the old joke: "No highs, no lows, must be Bose."
Also a big Bose fan, but you lost me at no Bluetooth support.
So you're telling me that not only did bose sell me a pair of headphones for 400+ dollars that ultimately gave me Tinnitus and hearing loss, but I can now spend however much on hearing aids to fix it?! How convenient! 🤬
And you're not likely to buy Bose speakers unless you can hear well! They got all the bases covered :)
They did not make you keep volume so high ...
Can you review live music hearsafe earplugs