Also also, I don't think you mentioned how you no longer have to spam A to pluck pikmin, to be more consistent with Pikmin 3 all you have to do is hold A. The change confused me the first time lmao. Loved the video!
Since I started with Pikmin 2 and havent gotten to 1 yet I'm not sure if this crosses over but there's extremely minor text changes which range from neat to extremely confusing. It seems like the pattern is that its either done to have a more modern sanitized nintendo comment, grammar issues, or to bring in some parity between the US, EU, and JPN versions. For instance, the gemstar wife and husband have been renamed to Red and Green gemstar and the Ship's sale pitch has been modified to specify that "any pairing of the male and female gemstones" will make them long for each other rather than specifically male and female. Olimar also no longer mentions his mom and dad in the priceless and worthless statue descriptions, and wollywogs are now wollyhops. A handful of other treasure and enemy names were also changed. Unfortunately the weed leaf was also changed to a maple leaf in all languages, which was very expected but mildly sad to say goodbye. Obviously it really does not matter much at all but if you've played these games a lot and recently it might give you a monent or two of confusion where whats said doesn't align with what you remember. and also, the lie down feature went from almost never used to damn near overpowered simply because its instantaneous, which makes it much faster to lie down while walking to get up immediately rather than dismissing, especially when fighting enemies like the sheargrubs or water dumples.
I understand why they changed the textures on the treasure but I was disappointed as it was part of its identity. I'm very conflicted now that you mention those other changes, as it feels like Nintendo is trying to gaslight me.
@@GoldenLeafsMovies The amount of changes is unfathomable, almost every line is altered. I don't understand why in most cases, it feels like a constant mandela affect lmao. Unfortunately it ruins some of the old jokes. I get they had to modernize the game but it feels a little excessive, kind of would have preferred they were light on dialogue changes when it changes the original text. Pikmin 2 is such a weird and dark game, it should be allowed to express weird and dark themes in its text as well.
The lie down dismisses pikmin? I just started playing the original pikmin 1 (I’m waiting for physical copy of switch versions), I guess I’ll try that. So laying down and getting up to dismiss is faster than pressing X? I’m not sure I understand what you said
@@halami2149 In Pikmin 1, it doesn't dismiss the squad. In Pikmin 2, lying down causes your Pikmin to dismiss without sorting into groups. In the original game, this was slower as you had to hold x to lie down. But in the port, it happens immediately due to the fact that it is not bound to the right stick being pressed down. Additionally, if you lie down while moving, you will immediately get back up. this is really useful because dismissing normally causes Pikmin to spread out a ton, and there's a slight delay. It lets you kill enemies like Water Dumples faster because when the Pikmin are dismissed they will immediately lock onto an enemy, meanwhile simply swarming takes much longer in many cases
One thing they really needed to upscale in pikmin 2 was the map. And they forgot. I'm hoping nintendo will patch that. It's so jarring when compared to the first game
I did my bulblax no death after learning him. I had a no death file from Wii but could never beat him cause bomb changes. But if you want to know, the trick is: -Lure his tongue 👅 attack -Evade it -Throw your bomb Pikmin right in front of his mouth 👄 after the first attack -If you luck is normal, he’ll do a second tongue attack 👅 -Then he’s stunned ATTACK WITH AROUND 40 REDS -whistle then before he’s unstunned Do that 3/4 times and he’s quite easy!
I mean any 10+ year laptop can emulate and upscale this game with ease. Use antialiasing. Mod things to fix things. There’s very likely texture packs. Use any controller you want. It’s not worth buying at its price being they did nearly nothing to it.
Another small detail I noticed is the gender of the Dolphin in the German translation. In the original game, Olimar referred to the Dolphin as "der Dolphin", so with the grammatical masculine article. I would guess that this was chosen because "Delfin", the German word for a dolphin, is also masculine. However, in later games and the switch version, Olimar's ship was called "die Dolphin", with the grammatical feminine article, which is more common for ship and space shuttle names. I just started replaying the first game about a week ago, so I quickly noticed it. It's really a very small detail.
Nintendo seems to be changing their localizations to be more faithful to the English and/or Japanese version, its honestly a little strange. They just changed abunch of character names in chinese from being translations to being transliterations, mainly donkey kong peach and daisy. 桃花 (taohua, peach blossom) ->碧姬 （pee chi, transliterated from japanese)
@@gamertypeawesome In the Netherlands we once had a commercial that a lot of foreigners found really inappropriate. It was a little kid saying "Mama, die, die, die" translating into "Mama, that one, that one, that one", but when you see it big on a billboard a lot of people who didn't understand Dutch were incredibly confused.
12:00 It's a real shame that Nintendo games lack more options for controls. It really isn't difficult to have the camera and swarming switched, or to have the camera controls reversed. I'm guessing that the physical release wouldn't have these options as standard even if they're added soon to the digital version,.
It's the same SKU; any updates one gets, the other will too. Meanwhile, Game Cards are printed with the latest version. So if they add more options before the Game Cards go to print, they'll be on the Game Card!
@@josephboehmer1245 Even with the system settings rebinding, Pikmin 1 and 2 are impossible to get back to how they control on GC due to the ports using the NPC! versions, and by extension their controls, as a base.
SMALL PERCENT CLUB! I have a switch, wii, gamecube, and n64 set up. 😂 And I have the og Pikmin games for Gamecube. But I am still buying the physical edition for the Switch.
The whistle in the original releases of Pikmin is really tricky. It only becomes active after fully expanding, or when you end it early. Updating it to be more sensible like Pikmin 2 is great to see.
NOTE: Some people are wondering why the bundle in my video is $70; that’s in AUD. It’s like $50 USD. ALSO: I forgot a couple things worth mentioning: - These ports fixed the crushing/bridge glitches that caused frequent random deaths of Pikmin - You can hold A to keep plucking instead of spamming like the originals Thanks to @sirsqueeko, @marioluigibros.8176 & @PSIkid for reminding me. I've also gotten pretty comfortable with the swarming (holding L while using the right stick), it just takes a fair bit of time to get the hang of it.
No, the only version of Pikmin 1 I have ever played is the Wii version and it definitely has the crushing glitch. It is a huge deal that this is removed. I hate that glitch with a passion as it is so frequent, at least the way I play.
6:05 When they look up into the onion while they put something in, if you really don't want to wait, you can dismiss all of your pikmin and they become dismissed to so you can whistle them and they will immediately join back into your group. (you can also probably do this in original pikmin 1, but who knows)
I’ve never played pikmin before, but seeing the trailers for pikmin 4 it’s got me really interested about the games. I think I’ll play the demo for that and if it takes my fancy, I’ll definitely be buying 1&2, and then 3&4 if I fall in love with the series. (Which, I hope I will!)
Just connect a Wii remote and nunchuck to your laptop and play the Wii versions of the first two games using Dolphin emulator. You could even get the GameCube ROMs and connect any controller to your computer and run those games through Dolphin. Using Dolphin is super easy, runs super well on any computer, it can be set up in 15 minutes and there's tonnes of TH-cam tutorials to help you with starting it up. With the price they're charging, don't give your money to Nintendo for very little improvements. Nintendo hardly ever has their games go on sale either.
I believe the reason that the motion controls turn off when you're not pressing A or B is so you can reset your positioning. Pikmin 3 Deluxe uses the R button to reset and Skyward Sword HD uses Y. The Wii and WiiU didn't need those because they use the IR sensor bar as a fixed point of reference. Also the gyro remains active for a few frames after releasing A so you can still keep throwing without the cursor resetting to where your stick is placing it.
Yeah but leaving the option in there for always on pointer controls like Pikmin 3 Deluxe would have felt a lot better. After playing Pikmin 4 I get the impression that Nintendo is actively trying to discourage such pointer controls after everyone basically refused to use the tablet controls they worked so hard on in Pikmin 3 because the pointer controls were just always so much better.
I think the bomb rocks worked BETTER in this version, somehow. I had way less trouble fighting the final boss then I normally do. Maybe I’ve just gotten better at it? Not sure, but I figured it was worth noting I had an opposite experience from you.
The forced throwing makes bomb rocks better for the final boss definitely. The yellows hesitate less which makes it easier to hit the tongue. It’s a very nice change in that aspect. However for walls having to take twice as long since you can’t drop them and having them ALWAYS prioritize enemies over walls so if a snitchbug or wisp appears they’re throwing it away from the wall, likely into your squad, sucks.
@@tnzwelk curious how you managed this - I tried the final boss yesterday and I think only once the yellow successfully threw the bomb at the tongue, and it felt lucky. All the other times it got eaten.
@@randomjar6934 It's better if they don't - in the GC pikmin 1, if you call the yellow pikmin back at the right time, it would drop the bomb and the boss would only eat the bomb. This stuns it for significantly longer than if it ate the pikmin. I haven't figured it out with the new system where the yellow pikmin decides when to throw the bomb.
@@zLumiNeonz I just threw it right as/before he started the attack. I've played the game probably 30 times and gotten the bomb throw maybe once in my life before switch. On switch I got it every time without trying. It was wild.
I have both my Wii and Switch set up, plus my Wii U as well. ;) By the way Jimble, you forgot to mention that the crushing glitch from the GameCube and Wii versions was patched out in this port, so it's automatically the best way to play the game!
I do think the controls are better on the wii. For the wii you had complete control over the reticle, but now when you want to move left but keep the pointer to the right, it instead follows olimar which is very annoying. You can't move and leave the pointer where it is. It instead follows olimar
The pointer motion controls were miles better on Wii, since the Wii had a sensor bar. In Pikmin 1&2 HD, the cross hair eventually drifts inches away from where you're pointing after around 15 seconds of moving it around in multiple directions. It doesn't cover enough ground either, and i can't believe NIntendo didn't bump 1&2 up to 60fps. Lazy ports.
@@NeonPizza80s yea I think if they didn't make motion and stick controls a weird hybrid and instead completely separated them it would have been much better. Also yea the pointer doesn't go far enough. In the wii you were able to whistle literally anywhere on screen haha
I really don't like the fact that they used AI upscaling for the level select... it just looks _bad._ I really hope they don't use AI for stuff like this very often, or at the very least I hope its _exclusive_ to ports of older games. AI stuff is usually less high quality than human-made textures and art, and I don't want them to make a habit of it just to save money...
I bought them both too.... the text looks better and more user friendly than originals so I'm digging it. Remakes or not.... it looks crisper and better looking graphics to me in my opinion.
Really appreciate the comprehensive look at this port from someone so familiar with the game. I'd like to pick these ports up, but $50 seems steep for a couple of pretty barebones and somewhat quirky ports. I'm one of the few who still has all my old consoles (and CRT TV) hooked up, so I'll probably just stick to the GC versions for now. Great video though.
I wish they had a chosen to put the swarm ability as the default thing for the right stick and then made you press L to rotate the camera with the right stick. Like you said they prioritised the wrong thing lol.
5:50 This clip of you fighting the Wolly... hop got deep into me. I could never imagine fighting that swiftly with that thing, even with blues instead of reds. It seems like a standard clip, but it really hits home to people that played the original versions of Pikmin 1. It is even better at 6:39, the fact that they answered immediately and none were crushed seems wild to me.
Sad to hear about the lack of options, would've been really nice to be able to customise it as close to gamecube controls as possible, but it isn't much of a surprise given how often Nintendo games lack options, particularly control options
They did the same thing to us with super mario all stars, particularly the inverted Y axis change in the remastered sunshine. Its very frustrating when you try to play a remastered game with the muscle memory for the original and the controls have been changed in a noticable way. Especially when there isn't an option to change the controls.
@jasonreed7522 the difference is in sunshine, it is objectively worse because you can do less. You can no longer use the gradient feature in gamecube controllers, the triggers are activated or not. In pikmin, you do not lose the ability do ANYTHING, but gain the ability to throw farther and more accurately (this is objective and can be measured) all while controlling a fluid camera like a game made in this decade.
@@bennettnez4711 and throw distance in unrelated to the camera controls. It also would take under an hour to impliment a simple toggle to invert the behavior so that you hold a button to pan and swarm by default. (Swarming is objectively far more important than panning the camera) And the swapping between top down and chase mode for the camera was a lot more intuitive as a simple button rather than a slam on the c-stick that is reversed from expected and isn't simply a toggle. Besides theirs only 1 point in the game where thow distance is genuinely needed, and that's the long throw at final trial to bomb the rock wall between the bridges. (Carry and run then throw) The new controls are not "objectively better" they are simply unnecessarily different and a change for neutral gain isn't worth the opportunity cost of changing.
@jasonreed7522 you definitely don't know anything about game design or how long anything would take but die on whatever hill you want on. TH-cam people are the only people in the world to look a gift horse in the mouth and want something worse. You people are a circus. 😂😂
As a BIG pikmin fan thanks to Dazz, ZachScott, Atacking Tuscan (idk if I spelt them right) but I never played the og 2, didn't have a wii or GameCube, however now I can play all 4 games on my switch! (I do have a wii u anf yeah I did pay for 3 deluxe, my disc scratched on wii u and I just wanna show the pikmin franchise the best that I can
I didn't notice the AI upscaling in the area thumbnails, but I gotta say I kinda like them, makes it look like some sort of ancient "photorealistic" painting
as someone who never played the old versions, making camera controls standard on the right stick as absolutely the right choice since I used them constantly, although I have no idea why nintendo doesnt let you remap the controls
As someone who played the originals more than any other game in my life, you really don't need the customization. These controls are infinitely better there is just no reason to tie one hand behind your back and have to use the trigger to adjust your camera angle.
@@bennettnez4711I think what OP was saying that maybe holding L and using right stick could be camera control, like skyward sword HD is when using button controls, and the stick by itself would be swarm. I think holding L for swarm is fine though, I haven’t played it yet. But I get used to controls easily
Me: It’s great that all Pikmin games are on Nintendo switch Some guy: *what about hey Pikmin Me: **ITS GREAT THAT ALL PIKMIN GAMES ARE ON NINTENDO SWITCH**
I loved the release on switch, Pikmin games are relatively small games ! Don't need to release every remake with a 15 GB file. wtf... Those FF 'remakes' ? They were like 4mb in the Snes, now they come at 3GB , really? you can pump them up a bit, wide screen, better font, but calm down with extravaganza. Pikmin is just right.
Ran into a bug on 1 yesterday where my Pikmin were invisible and were dying as I tried to pull them out of the onion, then when reloading the save I hit a few wrong buttons and accidentally deleted the save file. Not my proudest or smartest moment.
Something I noted in Pikmin 1 HD is that they changed the sound effect for the onions when they spit out the Pikmin sprouts unless they did that for the Wii version I’m not sure I only have the Game Cube version. It sounds lower pitched for some reason?
An option to swap the C-stick controls so that it defaults to swarming (and then controls the camera if you hold L) would be both obvious and a game changer. Please Nintendo. Also what game in 2023 doesn't have the option to invert the camera controls come on.
"And buy a gamecube and controllers" okay, so, if you buy a gamecube game and you have a wii(which you should considering the sales), there are models that have gamecube support. so all you need is the controllers and the memory card
I personally despise always-on motion controls. I much prefer when they only come on when holding a button, to the point where I don't even use them in Pikmin 3. That said, the real answer here is for Nintendo to just give us the option to choose between hold or always-on, but apparently it's always gotta be one or the other. Cowards!
I get you, I was hoping for that too. But honestly after I forced myself to get into it for 20 minutes, these new controls are just far superior. And the gamecube versions are my most played games of all time, this guy needs to give it more of a shot.
@@bennettnez4711 I still haven't played these remasters yet, but going off the new motion controls in the 4 demo; I'm not a fan. The old motion controls gave you complete free aim, but this is so much more limited. I still prefer it over no motion controls, but man they need to add the old controls as an option. I can see why you might like it, because gyro drift is no longer an issue, but I'd much rather take the much more free feeling. Pikmin 4 itself was still a lot of fun, lesser motion controls aside.
About the motion controls: just finished a playthrough of Pikmin 2 with the motion controls on and I gotta say, they really grew on me. I found the motion controls in Pikmin 3 Deluxe to be quite clunky since the cursor constantly gets desynced and you have to press a button to reset it. Pikmin 1+2 fixes this issue by making the controls more of a "hybrid" style between the Gamecube and Wii versions. You aren't supposed to solely rely on the motion controls like with Wii controls. Use the stick to get the cursor close to where you want it to be, and then use motion to make small adjustments while throwing. Then the cursor resets when your done so you don't have to press a button to reset it. I feel it actually works really well when you get used to it.
@@GoldenLeafsMoviesYou are probably right. I just remember trying out the full motion controls, getting really annoyed, and then settling for no motion controls at all, lol
The original Pikmin is the only one I had played until recently, and it was a lot of fun going back and playing through it again before I play 2 and 3. Not having to spam A to pull up Pikmin is nice, but there are definitely some parts that are worse than I remember. Like, the AI seems extra stupid for some reason. Sometimes while sending Pikmin back to their Onion, they will walk to the stem and then their state will get stuck and they will sit there doing nothing instead of going inside. As well, the hit boxes seems to be kind of broken. Throwing a Pikmin at some of the enemies and hitting them directly is a OHKO, but sometimes the hitbox doesn't trigger and they go right through, land on the ground with no idea what to do, and walk back to Olimar... Really wish these were remakes, but the game is an undeniable classic!
I'm reminded of how at the launch of 3D all stars Sunshine had troubles with being compatible with gamecube controllers because of one button lacking too, I find it weird how Nintendo has fumbled this aspect twice or more huh.
You are thinking of how they inverted the Y axis when controlling FLUDD. Or maybe the fact that the switch has digital triggers but the gamecube had analog triggers so they couldn't replicate the partial spray power the same. (This one was atleast a hardware limitation so we just had to get used to it) Nintendo seems to be making a habit of remastered beloved games and screwing up the controls without adding an options menu to adjust the controls. (Something so many game have today, and even back then.)
@@IceBlueLugia how do you hold your wii remote dude i cant hold the d pad and push a without putting my hand in weird ways contrary to the gamecube c stick wich i always have my figer close
I think this version is just the best version in every aspect. Would have been nice to have more controll options like inverted but I think all the changes they made are improvements. Even the motion controls only activating when you press the button is pretty smart as I would always have to resync in Pikmin 3 Deluxe so thats a nice change that doesn't require adding a reset button.
Good video! Glad to hear that the Switch version of Pikmin 1 is good! It is nice to see all the main Pikmin games on the Switch! I hope some of the more well-known Pikmin 1 & 2 hacks/mods can eventually be ported to the Switch versions! Would love to especially see Pikmin 1 Randomizer on the Switch version!
@@NoCloutJoey That isn't even remotely true. People have been modding the Switch for years. As long as you stay offline and don't connect to Nintendo servers, you're pretty much safe to use whatever mods you want.
I got used to the new controls relatively quickly, besides the motion controls. I could not get used to it, especially because I just played through the game on my Wii U not even 3 days before the Direct.
I am frustrated that the physical version doesn't come out until September. I don't see why I have to decide between getting a physical copy (which I prefer) and playing months sooner. And, no, I'm not interested in getting both a digital and physical copy. I've already bought both games twice; buying them four times each isn't something I want to do.
That's neat you noticed the whistle changes. I played a TON of Pikmin when it was released, but didn't play it until several years ago before the Switch release. The game felt more responsive somehow, but I really couldn't put my finger on how.
Oh I still got the Wii set up man. Leave that Wii U plugged in for Wii/Wii U games!! But great video, lots of little details in your run down. Pretty crazy I would also be annoyed by a bit of those changes against the original as well. It is so awesome to see tons of new players trying out Pikmin for the first time. I still own the originals and I want to play through these versions, waiting for the physical release! Been enjoying all your Pikmin videos!
I had Pikmin when it first came out, but never beat it. I remember it being a lot more difficult than it was. I bought it on eShop, and beat it in a couple hours. $40 is a lot to charge for such a short experience that is a port and not remake. $60 for 1 and 2 is a chunk for what it is, despite being stellar games. But yeah, if the outstanding Metroid Prime remaster is, what, $35? There was no reason for this one to be so much.
Let's be real and see what that "pretty small percentage" actually looks like! Who of you still have their Gamecube and/or Wii consoles going strong next to their Switch? I sure do.
i personally really appreciated the new camera controls and got used to holding L really quick. Probably cause i don’t play the originals that often though.
Idk the originals are my most played games of all time and this new control scheme was such an obvious improvement I'll never go back. Not sure what this guy is smoking
when I hear "holding L" I am reminded of half pressing L on the gamecube controller and how nicely that flowed. Need a full camera readjust? Full press. Need the camera to be fix? Release R. Walking around normally? just about half press L.
@@bennettnez4711i am stuck on the old muscle memory: Z to toggle top down or chase camera (instead of up/down on c-stick) R to change zoom level L to center the camera behind you (the only place you actually need it) And C-stick swarming wasn't a combo action and happens automatically. While the new control scheme isn't necessarily bad, it does heavily conflict with the muscle memory a lot of us have for the originals. And if I'm instinctually swarming in conbat or to cross a bridge, the fact the most likely mess-up is the camera pans while my pikmin get killed is a pretty harsh consequence for being a long time fan with some very deep muscle memory. But for someone who's never played 1 & 2 before they probably won't even notice that the controls are "weird", since thats just how the controls have always been to them. (And pikmin doesn't really have anything to compare against they way an FPS does so the only precedent is its own. In contrast imagine if the next COD decided left trigger should be shoot, everyone would hate the arbitrary change away from their muscle memory.)
@jasonreed7522 yeah I understand what muscle memory Is, I had it at the beginning. Regardless of personal preference, the new control mode is objectively better. It let's you throw farther and more accurately and controls like a modern game. The only reason the controls were that way originally was the limited nature of the GC controller. Less triggers.
I immediately bought it when I found out about it couple days after release and just finished pikmin 1 kinda disappointed i only did 19 days and lost nearly 200 pikmin... i coulda restarted the final stage though, since bulbax absolutely freaking BODIED me!
I've only played Pikmin 1 & 2 on the Gamecube; still have my copies, luckily enough. I had no idea that the recent entries removed swarming?? That was literally the backbone of half of my strategies....
Somewhat sad that these games weren't given full graphical overhauls. For a $50 collection of games that are decades old, I feel like that extra touch would have been the final nudge to give a full justification for the price. Also, both games would be absolutely beautiful. I still yearn to see Pikmin 2 and 1 especially with a complete graphical update. That said, the original games, especially 2, still look phenomenal.
Could they not simply do a new grass texture?? One of the main things you'll see on 90% of the screen, 90% of the time? This seems like a jerry-rigged Gamecube rom, certainly no Metroid Prime Remastered or even Pikmin 3 Deluxe
I just got this game yesterday. I've never played a Pikman game before, but I heard good things. I like it but the 30 day limit bothers me. I'm on day 3 and am already behind, I got 2 parts, but didn't get the yellow pikmins till day 3.
I just booted my gamecube version, and I feel like the pikmin actually respond faster there after carrying something to the onion. So unless I'm crazy, it's the only thing that's actually slightly worse on the switch version regarding the responsiveness of the pikmin.
I will say getting Pikmin 1+2 for switch is a great way to play those games but alternatively getting a Wii Modding it and putting games on a flash drive is cheap as heck. Also Emulators are 100% free.
Given these are such barebones ports with almost no improvements this is waaaay overpriced. Metroid Prime was a much better deal and was a huge upgrade over the old versions so 100% worth it but even as a pikmin fan this is absolutely not . Especialiy as both 1 and 2 are very easy to emulate running perfectly with minimal effort and have some realy nice 4k texture packs that offer a huge upgrade over these versions. It was dissapointing we didnt get 1 and 2 properly upgraded in line with pikmin 3 Back when this launched on Switch that would have been a fantastic deal for a 3 in one.
I have my Gamecube and Switch setup right now on the TV. Just last week before this announcement I was playing Pikmin on the Gamecube. Just saying, lol
I pre ordered the physical release. not buying it digital. I already have them on gamecube so it's not like I am desperate to play them before Pikmin 4. I want to show my support by buying the physical copy for sure though. Lucky digital fans.
In no was are those two games worth $70 dollars. I was expecting a $40 bundle at the most, a $30 deal at the least. To bad. I figured younger people that missed these would love to play through the franchise’s beginnings but to this price I hope it fails.
Pikmin responsiveness reads as a bad change to me. A big part 9f what makes the first Pikmin work that the sequels failed to understand is the finesse required to control the Pikmin. You're SUPPOSED to lose Pikmin over small mistakes, it's a core part of the gameplay loop.
I don't know if i missed it or not but was the crush glitch fixed. That glitch was where i lost a majority of pikmin in 1. I don't like the sound of the new controls so if the crush glitch is still present I'll probably just save my money and stick with the wii version
Also also, I don't think you mentioned how you no longer have to spam A to pluck pikmin, to be more consistent with Pikmin 3 all you have to do is hold A. The change confused me the first time lmao. Loved the video!
NO WAYYYYY
I will always spam a
Okay that's awesome that also a new change to Pikmin. Makes it better for the new Pikmin players.
Wasn't the holding button feature introduced in the Game Cube release?
@@wizardmanaia4664 No, it's a completely new feature for the switch port.
I’ll probably wait for a physical release before buying it
Same altho the reason I am gonna wait is because I don't have too much money and wanna buy pikmin 4 before release
I got the digital versions, and I'm definitely getting the physical release(s) as well
Same, it need it to complete my Pikmin game collection
already pre-ordered for 41 euros
I hope Pikmin 1 and 2 are separate, i want to have all 4 Pikmin Titles in physical form (minus hey! Pikmin but i have that one too)
Since I started with Pikmin 2 and havent gotten to 1 yet I'm not sure if this crosses over but there's extremely minor text changes which range from neat to extremely confusing. It seems like the pattern is that its either done to have a more modern sanitized nintendo comment, grammar issues, or to bring in some parity between the US, EU, and JPN versions. For instance, the gemstar wife and husband have been renamed to Red and Green gemstar and the Ship's sale pitch has been modified to specify that "any pairing of the male and female gemstones" will make them long for each other rather than specifically male and female. Olimar also no longer mentions his mom and dad in the priceless and worthless statue descriptions, and wollywogs are now wollyhops. A handful of other treasure and enemy names were also changed. Unfortunately the weed leaf was also changed to a maple leaf in all languages, which was very expected but mildly sad to say goodbye. Obviously it really does not matter much at all but if you've played these games a lot and recently it might give you a monent or two of confusion where whats said doesn't align with what you remember.
and also, the lie down feature went from almost never used to damn near overpowered simply because its instantaneous, which makes it much faster to lie down while walking to get up immediately rather than dismissing, especially when fighting enemies like the sheargrubs or water dumples.
I understand why they changed the textures on the treasure but I was disappointed as it was part of its identity. I'm very conflicted now that you mention those other changes, as it feels like Nintendo is trying to gaslight me.
@@GoldenLeafsMovies The amount of changes is unfathomable, almost every line is altered. I don't understand why in most cases, it feels like a constant mandela affect lmao. Unfortunately it ruins some of the old jokes. I get they had to modernize the game but it feels a little excessive, kind of would have preferred they were light on dialogue changes when it changes the original text. Pikmin 2 is such a weird and dark game, it should be allowed to express weird and dark themes in its text as well.
The lie down dismisses pikmin? I just started playing the original pikmin 1 (I’m waiting for physical copy of switch versions), I guess I’ll try that. So laying down and getting up to dismiss is faster than pressing X? I’m not sure I understand what you said
@@halami2149 In Pikmin 1, it doesn't dismiss the squad. In Pikmin 2, lying down causes your Pikmin to dismiss without sorting into groups. In the original game, this was slower as you had to hold x to lie down. But in the port, it happens immediately due to the fact that it is not bound to the right stick being pressed down. Additionally, if you lie down while moving, you will immediately get back up. this is really useful because dismissing normally causes Pikmin to spread out a ton, and there's a slight delay. It lets you kill enemies like Water Dumples faster because when the Pikmin are dismissed they will immediately lock onto an enemy, meanwhile simply swarming takes much longer in many cases
that change to swarming would actually fuck me up so much, definitely hope there is an update but for now im waiting for physical release
Also if you hold down the c-stick on the new port you can lay down like the nap-sack from pikmin 2
Dolphin emu sitting and watching you for it to be used
One thing they really needed to upscale in pikmin 2 was the map. And they forgot. I'm hoping nintendo will patch that. It's so jarring when compared to the first game
I did my bulblax no death after learning him.
I had a no death file from Wii but could never beat him cause bomb changes.
But if you want to know, the trick is:
-Lure his tongue 👅 attack
-Evade it
-Throw your bomb Pikmin right in front of his mouth 👄 after the first attack
-If you luck is normal, he’ll do a second tongue attack 👅
-Then he’s stunned
ATTACK WITH AROUND 40 REDS
-whistle then before he’s unstunned
Do that 3/4 times and he’s quite easy!
Was gonna wait till September but I couldn't do it lol, bought it digital and will also get it physical
I mean any 10+ year laptop can emulate and upscale this game with ease. Use antialiasing. Mod things to fix things. There’s very likely texture packs. Use any controller you want. It’s not worth buying at its price being they did nearly nothing to it.
Another small detail I noticed is the gender of the Dolphin in the German translation. In the original game, Olimar referred to the Dolphin as "der Dolphin", so with the grammatical masculine article. I would guess that this was chosen because "Delfin", the German word for a dolphin, is also masculine. However, in later games and the switch version, Olimar's ship was called "die Dolphin", with the grammatical feminine article, which is more common for ship and space shuttle names.
I just started replaying the first game about a week ago, so I quickly noticed it. It's really a very small detail.
Das ist sehr interessant.
Nintendo seems to be changing their localizations to be more faithful to the English and/or Japanese version, its honestly a little strange. They just changed abunch of character names in chinese from being translations to being transliterations, mainly donkey kong peach and daisy. 桃花 (taohua, peach blossom) ->碧姬 （pee chi, transliterated from japanese)
sorry, die dolphin???? olimar hates dolphins comfirmed
@@gamertypeawesome In the Netherlands we once had a commercial that a lot of foreigners found really inappropriate. It was a little kid saying "Mama, die, die, die" translating into "Mama, that one, that one, that one", but when you see it big on a billboard a lot of people who didn't understand Dutch were incredibly confused.
Also hapenned in the spanish translation,In the original game the dolphin is "el dolphin" but in the seitch version is "la dolphin"
12:00 It's a real shame that Nintendo games lack more options for controls.
It really isn't difficult to have the camera and swarming switched, or to have the camera controls reversed.
I'm guessing that the physical release wouldn't have these options as standard even if they're added soon to the digital version,.
It's not an excuse for that feature or any other accessibility feature not existing but, you can change that in the system settings
Probably why they release a digital version first, in order to see what could be added/updated.
It's the same SKU; any updates one gets, the other will too. Meanwhile, Game Cards are printed with the latest version. So if they add more options before the Game Cards go to print, they'll be on the Game Card!
There’s no excuse for any game from the past 25 years to not have in-game remappable controls
@@josephboehmer1245 Even with the system settings rebinding, Pikmin 1 and 2 are impossible to get back to how they control on GC due to the ports using the NPC! versions, and by extension their controls, as a base.
SMALL PERCENT CLUB! I have a switch, wii, gamecube, and n64 set up. 😂 And I have the og Pikmin games for Gamecube. But I am still buying the physical edition for the Switch.
The whistle in the original releases of Pikmin is really tricky. It only becomes active after fully expanding, or when you end it early. Updating it to be more sensible like Pikmin 2 is great to see.
NOTE: Some people are wondering why the bundle in my video is $70; that’s in AUD. It’s like $50 USD.
ALSO: I forgot a couple things worth mentioning:
- These ports fixed the crushing/bridge glitches that caused frequent random deaths of Pikmin
- You can hold A to keep plucking instead of spamming like the originals
Thanks to @sirsqueeko, @marioluigibros.8176 & @PSIkid for reminding me. I've also gotten pretty comfortable with the swarming (holding L while using the right stick), it just takes a fair bit of time to get the hang of it.
Fixing the crushing glitch is huge. That might actually tip the scale and get me to buy these.
dang i didn't now that you can hold A to keep plucking
@@underflowe In Pikmin 3 wass the only one that had that feature before this.
Wasn’t that a glitch fixed on the Wii version?
No, the only version of Pikmin 1 I have ever played is the Wii version and it definitely has the crushing glitch. It is a huge deal that this is removed. I hate that glitch with a passion as it is so frequent, at least the way I play.
Congrats on 10K Jimble 🎉
also they fixed the crushing glitch where pikmin die from corpses
Yeah that is huge. Did they fix the bridge crushing glitch, too?
@@ApolloDawn85 yes
6:05 When they look up into the onion while they put something in, if you really don't want to wait, you can dismiss all of your pikmin and they become dismissed to so you can whistle them and they will immediately join back into your group. (you can also probably do this in original pikmin 1, but who knows)
Nintendo hates options.
Why can't they let you choose if you want swarming or camera controls to be the default?
I’ve never played pikmin before, but seeing the trailers for pikmin 4 it’s got me really interested about the games. I think I’ll play the demo for that and if it takes my fancy, I’ll definitely be buying 1&2, and then 3&4 if I fall in love with the series. (Which, I hope I will!)
Just connect a Wii remote and nunchuck to your laptop and play the Wii versions of the first two games using Dolphin emulator. You could even get the GameCube ROMs and connect any controller to your computer and run those games through Dolphin. Using Dolphin is super easy, runs super well on any computer, it can be set up in 15 minutes and there's tonnes of TH-cam tutorials to help you with starting it up. With the price they're charging, don't give your money to Nintendo for very little improvements. Nintendo hardly ever has their games go on sale either.
@@charliekelly735that’s what I’m doing, pikmin 1 is pretty fun so far
I believe the reason that the motion controls turn off when you're not pressing A or B is so you can reset your positioning. Pikmin 3 Deluxe uses the R button to reset and Skyward Sword HD uses Y. The Wii and WiiU didn't need those because they use the IR sensor bar as a fixed point of reference. Also the gyro remains active for a few frames after releasing A so you can still keep throwing without the cursor resetting to where your stick is placing it.
@@ViewpointProd I didn't say anything about plucking
@@jonathand.4088 god damn it, replied to the wrong comment, sorry.
ohhh that makes sense. the joycons have no way to “know” how they are oriented **relative to the screen**
Yeah but leaving the option in there for always on pointer controls like Pikmin 3 Deluxe would have felt a lot better. After playing Pikmin 4 I get the impression that Nintendo is actively trying to discourage such pointer controls after everyone basically refused to use the tablet controls they worked so hard on in Pikmin 3 because the pointer controls were just always so much better.
I think the bomb rocks worked BETTER in this version, somehow. I had way less trouble fighting the final boss then I normally do. Maybe I’ve just gotten better at it? Not sure, but I figured it was worth noting I had an opposite experience from you.
The forced throwing makes bomb rocks better for the final boss definitely. The yellows hesitate less which makes it easier to hit the tongue. It’s a very nice change in that aspect. However for walls having to take twice as long since you can’t drop them and having them ALWAYS prioritize enemies over walls so if a snitchbug or wisp appears they’re throwing it away from the wall, likely into your squad, sucks.
@@tnzwelk curious how you managed this - I tried the final boss yesterday and I think only once the yellow successfully threw the bomb at the tongue, and it felt lucky. All the other times it got eaten.
@zLumiNeonz But aren’t the Pikmin with bomb rocks supposed to get eaten?
@@randomjar6934 It's better if they don't - in the GC pikmin 1, if you call the yellow pikmin back at the right time, it would drop the bomb and the boss would only eat the bomb. This stuns it for significantly longer than if it ate the pikmin. I haven't figured it out with the new system where the yellow pikmin decides when to throw the bomb.
@@zLumiNeonz I just threw it right as/before he started the attack. I've played the game probably 30 times and gotten the bomb throw maybe once in my life before switch. On switch I got it every time without trying. It was wild.
I have both my Wii and Switch set up, plus my Wii U as well. ;)
By the way Jimble, you forgot to mention that the crushing glitch from the GameCube and Wii versions was patched out in this port, so it's automatically the best way to play the game!
YEEESSSSSS, that reason is enough for me to want it even more.
I do think the controls are better on the wii. For the wii you had complete control over the reticle, but now when you want to move left but keep the pointer to the right, it instead follows olimar which is very annoying. You can't move and leave the pointer where it is. It instead follows olimar
The pointer motion controls were miles better on Wii, since the Wii had a sensor bar. In Pikmin 1&2 HD, the cross hair eventually drifts inches away from where you're pointing after around 15 seconds of moving it around in multiple directions. It doesn't cover enough ground either, and i can't believe NIntendo didn't bump 1&2 up to 60fps. Lazy ports.
@@NeonPizza80s yea I think if they didn't make motion and stick controls a weird hybrid and instead completely separated them it would have been much better. Also yea the pointer doesn't go far enough. In the wii you were able to whistle literally anywhere on screen haha
Much better review than other people. You're clearly familiar with the original games whereas other reviewers just treated this like any other game.
I really don't like the fact that they used AI upscaling for the level select... it just looks _bad._ I really hope they don't use AI for stuff like this very often, or at the very least I hope its _exclusive_ to ports of older games. AI stuff is usually less high quality than human-made textures and art, and I don't want them to make a habit of it just to save money...
I bought them both too.... the text looks better and more user friendly than originals so I'm digging it. Remakes or not.... it looks crisper and better looking graphics to me in my opinion.
Really appreciate the comprehensive look at this port from someone so familiar with the game.
I'd like to pick these ports up, but $50 seems steep for a couple of pretty barebones and somewhat quirky ports.
I'm one of the few who still has all my old consoles (and CRT TV) hooked up, so I'll probably just stick to the GC versions for now.
Great video though.
I wish they had a chosen to put the swarm ability as the default thing for the right stick and then made you press L to rotate the camera with the right stick. Like you said they prioritised the wrong thing lol.
My only complaint is why they’re both so GOD DAMN EXPENSIVE. Other than that I had an amazing time replaying my favorite childhood games again
They're $30 USD each, the Bundle is $50 USD
I agree, $30 for Pikmin 1 is pretty steep
A dollar per day
@@Wrenchy247 they should be like 10 or 5 at most. These games are both almost 2 decades old/ are two decades old
@@wahman5185"they should be 5 or 10 at most"?!?!? Dude what the hell are you on?
5:50 This clip of you fighting the Wolly... hop got deep into me. I could never imagine fighting that swiftly with that thing, even with blues instead of reds. It seems like a standard clip, but it really hits home to people that played the original versions of Pikmin 1. It is even better at 6:39, the fact that they answered immediately and none were crushed seems wild to me.
The wolly... hop. 😅
Crazy to think we lost so many Pikmin in the original due to clunky controls rather than skill haha
Can’t wait to play this even though I played through the first 2 a ton of times already lol
Sad to hear about the lack of options, would've been really nice to be able to customise it as close to gamecube controls as possible, but it isn't much of a surprise given how often Nintendo games lack options, particularly control options
This guy is smoking Crack the controls are objectively much better. Try it yourself.
They did the same thing to us with super mario all stars, particularly the inverted Y axis change in the remastered sunshine.
Its very frustrating when you try to play a remastered game with the muscle memory for the original and the controls have been changed in a noticable way. Especially when there isn't an option to change the controls.
@jasonreed7522 the difference is in sunshine, it is objectively worse because you can do less. You can no longer use the gradient feature in gamecube controllers, the triggers are activated or not. In pikmin, you do not lose the ability do ANYTHING, but gain the ability to throw farther and more accurately (this is objective and can be measured) all while controlling a fluid camera like a game made in this decade.
@@bennettnez4711 and throw distance in unrelated to the camera controls. It also would take under an hour to impliment a simple toggle to invert the behavior so that you hold a button to pan and swarm by default. (Swarming is objectively far more important than panning the camera) And the swapping between top down and chase mode for the camera was a lot more intuitive as a simple button rather than a slam on the c-stick that is reversed from expected and isn't simply a toggle.
Besides theirs only 1 point in the game where thow distance is genuinely needed, and that's the long throw at final trial to bomb the rock wall between the bridges. (Carry and run then throw)
The new controls are not "objectively better" they are simply unnecessarily different and a change for neutral gain isn't worth the opportunity cost of changing.
@jasonreed7522 you definitely don't know anything about game design or how long anything would take but die on whatever hill you want on. TH-cam people are the only people in the world to look a gift horse in the mouth and want something worse. You people are a circus. 😂😂
As a BIG pikmin fan thanks to Dazz, ZachScott, Atacking Tuscan (idk if I spelt them right) but I never played the og 2, didn't have a wii or GameCube, however now I can play all 4 games on my switch! (I do have a wii u anf yeah I did pay for 3 deluxe, my disc scratched on wii u and I just wanna show the pikmin franchise the best that I can
I didn't notice the AI upscaling in the area thumbnails, but I gotta say I kinda like them, makes it look like some sort of ancient "photorealistic" painting
yeah, it's as if they took a hr version of the picture and put some mosaic filter on it
as someone who never played the old versions, making camera controls standard on the right stick as absolutely the right choice since I used them constantly, although I have no idea why nintendo doesnt let you remap the controls
As someone who played the originals more than any other game in my life, you really don't need the customization. These controls are infinitely better there is just no reason to tie one hand behind your back and have to use the trigger to adjust your camera angle.
@@bennettnez4711I think what OP was saying that maybe holding L and using right stick could be camera control, like skyward sword HD is when using button controls, and the stick by itself would be swarm. I think holding L for swarm is fine though, I haven’t played it yet. But I get used to controls easily
I would love it if you did livestreams! It would be awesome to see your live reaction to new pikmin content :)
I lost most of my gamecube games so this port was a godsend 🙏🏻😌 love this franchise
Me: It’s great that all Pikmin games are on Nintendo switch
Some guy: *what about hey Pikmin
Me: **ITS GREAT THAT ALL PIKMIN GAMES ARE ON NINTENDO SWITCH**
I loved the release on switch, Pikmin games are relatively small games ! Don't need to release every remake with a 15 GB file. wtf... Those FF 'remakes' ? They were like 4mb in the Snes, now they come at 3GB , really? you can pump them up a bit, wide screen, better font, but calm down with extravaganza. Pikmin is just right.
Ran into a bug on 1 yesterday where my Pikmin were invisible and were dying as I tried to pull them out of the onion, then when reloading the save I hit a few wrong buttons and accidentally deleted the save file. Not my proudest or smartest moment.
Something I noted in Pikmin 1 HD is that they changed the sound effect for the onions when they spit out the Pikmin sprouts unless they did that for the Wii version I’m not sure I only have the Game Cube version. It sounds lower pitched for some reason?
I though i was the only one to notice that (i only play the gamecube version too)
It originates from the changes made in PAL New Play Control! Pikmin.
An option to swap the C-stick controls so that it defaults to swarming (and then controls the camera if you hold L) would be both obvious and a game changer. Please Nintendo.
Also what game in 2023 doesn't have the option to invert the camera controls come on.
"And buy a gamecube and controllers" okay, so, if you buy a gamecube game and you have a wii(which you should considering the sales), there are models that have gamecube support. so all you need is the controllers and the memory card
I personally despise always-on motion controls. I much prefer when they only come on when holding a button, to the point where I don't even use them in Pikmin 3. That said, the real answer here is for Nintendo to just give us the option to choose between hold or always-on, but apparently it's always gotta be one or the other. Cowards!
Yay! I'm part of a "pretty small percentage" of people!!! 2:13
I also have my Wii U setup for even _more_ Nintendo at my fingertips
You didn't mention how the glitch where Pikmin get squished under bridges and large enemies was fixed. I think that is the biggest selling point. Lmao
pikmin is very good video game
I'm actually really sad it doesn't have the Wii controls like 3 Deluxe does. I really hope they patch them in.
I get you, I was hoping for that too. But honestly after I forced myself to get into it for 20 minutes, these new controls are just far superior. And the gamecube versions are my most played games of all time, this guy needs to give it more of a shot.
@@bennettnez4711 I still haven't played these remasters yet, but going off the new motion controls in the 4 demo; I'm not a fan. The old motion controls gave you complete free aim, but this is so much more limited. I still prefer it over no motion controls, but man they need to add the old controls as an option. I can see why you might like it, because gyro drift is no longer an issue, but I'd much rather take the much more free feeling. Pikmin 4 itself was still a lot of fun, lesser motion controls aside.
About the motion controls: just finished a playthrough of Pikmin 2 with the motion controls on and I gotta say, they really grew on me. I found the motion controls in Pikmin 3 Deluxe to be quite clunky since the cursor constantly gets desynced and you have to press a button to reset it. Pikmin 1+2 fixes this issue by making the controls more of a "hybrid" style between the Gamecube and Wii versions. You aren't supposed to solely rely on the motion controls like with Wii controls. Use the stick to get the cursor close to where you want it to be, and then use motion to make small adjustments while throwing. Then the cursor resets when your done so you don't have to press a button to reset it. I feel it actually works really well when you get used to it.
Doesn't Deluxe also have a "hybrid" control style? I almost exclusively use that.
@@GoldenLeafsMoviesYou are probably right. I just remember trying out the full motion controls, getting really annoyed, and then settling for no motion controls at all, lol
I think they should’ve at least added a motion control option called “GameCube” and “Wii”
I really, really hope they patch in constant-motion for the reticle. It’s really jarring for it to just stop.
$70 for a very old game. Only nintendo can pull this
Daaaaaaaaaaawnng you foking pay 80 DOLLARS 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀❗❗❗‼️❗‼️‼️‼️‼️❗‼️‼️‼️💸💸💸💸
The original Pikmin is the only one I had played until recently, and it was a lot of fun going back and playing through it again before I play 2 and 3. Not having to spam A to pull up Pikmin is nice, but there are definitely some parts that are worse than I remember. Like, the AI seems extra stupid for some reason. Sometimes while sending Pikmin back to their Onion, they will walk to the stem and then their state will get stuck and they will sit there doing nothing instead of going inside. As well, the hit boxes seems to be kind of broken. Throwing a Pikmin at some of the enemies and hitting them directly is a OHKO, but sometimes the hitbox doesn't trigger and they go right through, land on the ground with no idea what to do, and walk back to Olimar... Really wish these were remakes, but the game is an undeniable classic!
2:14 that’s me! That’s me he’s talking about! THATS ME!!!
Why does nintendo both love and hate control options😂
I'm reminded of how at the launch of 3D all stars Sunshine had troubles with being compatible with gamecube controllers because of one button lacking too, I find it weird how Nintendo has fumbled this aspect twice or more huh.
You are thinking of how they inverted the Y axis when controlling FLUDD.
Or maybe the fact that the switch has digital triggers but the gamecube had analog triggers so they couldn't replicate the partial spray power the same. (This one was atleast a hardware limitation so we just had to get used to it)
Nintendo seems to be making a habit of remastered beloved games and screwing up the controls without adding an options menu to adjust the controls. (Something so many game have today, and even back then.)
I have a Wii gamecube and switch set up lol 😅
for the controll of swarm it was way worst on the wii where you just did not have a 2nd stick so you had to press down on the dpad and point
Bruh what, that was way better because down on the D-pad is way closer to the Wii remote A button then the C-stick is to the Gamecube A button
@@IceBlueLugia how do you hold your wii remote dude i cant hold the d pad and push a without putting my hand in weird ways contrary to the gamecube c stick wich i always have my figer close
I honestly wasn't expecting the Pikmin 1+2 but it makes me pretty happy.
Loved the first game so much and am very excited for 4.
I think this version is just the best version in every aspect. Would have been nice to have more controll options like inverted but I think all the changes they made are improvements. Even the motion controls only activating when you press the button is pretty smart as I would always have to resync in Pikmin 3 Deluxe so thats a nice change that doesn't require adding a reset button.
I love how they changed the font of pikmin 3 deluxe to fit in with the rest of the games on the home menu (ALSO WOW IM EARLY)
wollyhop gaming moment
I think the camera/swarm thing would be fixed if it was a toggle L instead of a hold L for swarming to kinda swap.
I have both Wii and Switch setup :(
Good video! Glad to hear that the Switch version of Pikmin 1 is good! It is nice to see all the main Pikmin games on the Switch! I hope some of the more well-known Pikmin 1 & 2 hacks/mods can eventually be ported to the Switch versions! Would love to especially see Pikmin 1 Randomizer on the Switch version!
Switch doesn’t support mods. Unfortunately Nintendo will never allow anything like this
@@NoCloutJoey That isn't even remotely true. People have been modding the Switch for years. As long as you stay offline and don't connect to Nintendo servers, you're pretty much safe to use whatever mods you want.
I got used to the new controls relatively quickly, besides the motion controls. I could not get used to it, especially because I just played through the game on my Wii U not even 3 days before the Direct.
I am frustrated that the physical version doesn't come out until September. I don't see why I have to decide between getting a physical copy (which I prefer) and playing months sooner.
And, no, I'm not interested in getting both a digital and physical copy. I've already bought both games twice; buying them four times each isn't something I want to do.
That's neat you noticed the whistle changes. I played a TON of Pikmin when it was released, but didn't play it until several years ago before the Switch release. The game felt more responsive somehow, but I really couldn't put my finger on how.
Sad that it does not have a pointer option, I think the Wii version are still better to play
Oh I still got the Wii set up man. Leave that Wii U plugged in for Wii/Wii U games!! But great video, lots of little details in your run down. Pretty crazy I would also be annoyed by a bit of those changes against the original as well. It is so awesome to see tons of new players trying out Pikmin for the first time. I still own the originals and I want to play through these versions, waiting for the physical release! Been enjoying all your Pikmin videos!
I had Pikmin when it first came out, but never beat it. I remember it being a lot more difficult than it was. I bought it on eShop, and beat it in a couple hours. $40 is a lot to charge for such a short experience that is a port and not remake. $60 for 1 and 2 is a chunk for what it is, despite being stellar games. But yeah, if the outstanding Metroid Prime remaster is, what, $35? There was no reason for this one to be so much.
Let's be real and see what that "pretty small percentage" actually looks like! Who of you still have their Gamecube and/or Wii consoles going strong next to their Switch? I sure do.
You just earned a new subscriber. Incredible video, thank you!
Seems like I am not gonna buy this version. Thank you for the informative video. I can tell you are a true Pikmin-veteran. Have a great day.
i personally really appreciated the new camera controls and got used to holding L really quick. Probably cause i don’t play the originals that often though.
Idk the originals are my most played games of all time and this new control scheme was such an obvious improvement I'll never go back. Not sure what this guy is smoking
when I hear "holding L" I am reminded of half pressing L on the gamecube controller and how nicely that flowed. Need a full camera readjust? Full press. Need the camera to be fix? Release R. Walking around normally? just about half press L.
@sarowie now its as simple as "move stick" for the camera to be perfectly where you want it 100% of the time.
@@bennettnez4711i am stuck on the old muscle memory:
Z to toggle top down or chase camera (instead of up/down on c-stick)
R to change zoom level
L to center the camera behind you (the only place you actually need it)
And C-stick swarming wasn't a combo action and happens automatically.
While the new control scheme isn't necessarily bad, it does heavily conflict with the muscle memory a lot of us have for the originals. And if I'm instinctually swarming in conbat or to cross a bridge, the fact the most likely mess-up is the camera pans while my pikmin get killed is a pretty harsh consequence for being a long time fan with some very deep muscle memory.
But for someone who's never played 1 & 2 before they probably won't even notice that the controls are "weird", since thats just how the controls have always been to them. (And pikmin doesn't really have anything to compare against they way an FPS does so the only precedent is its own. In contrast imagine if the next COD decided left trigger should be shoot, everyone would hate the arbitrary change away from their muscle memory.)
@jasonreed7522 yeah I understand what muscle memory Is, I had it at the beginning. Regardless of personal preference, the new control mode is objectively better. It let's you throw farther and more accurately and controls like a modern game. The only reason the controls were that way originally was the limited nature of the GC controller. Less triggers.
appreciate this thorough review
I immediately bought it when I found out about it couple days after release and just finished pikmin 1
kinda disappointed i only did 19 days and lost nearly 200 pikmin...
i coulda restarted the final stage though, since bulbax absolutely freaking BODIED me!
$70 for two ports of over a decade-old games?
Nintendo really has no place charging that much
$50 for the USA
Where are you guys going to find these absurd prices?
@@bennettnez4711 the first seconds of the video, didnt know this wasnt a US based channel
I've only played Pikmin 1 & 2 on the Gamecube; still have my copies, luckily enough.
I had no idea that the recent entries removed swarming?? That was literally the backbone of half of my strategies....
Somewhat sad that these games weren't given full graphical overhauls. For a $50 collection of games that are decades old, I feel like that extra touch would have been the final nudge to give a full justification for the price. Also, both games would be absolutely beautiful. I still yearn to see Pikmin 2 and 1 especially with a complete graphical update. That said, the original games, especially 2, still look phenomenal.
Could they not simply do a new grass texture?? One of the main things you'll see on 90% of the screen, 90% of the time? This seems like a jerry-rigged Gamecube rom, certainly no Metroid Prime Remastered or even Pikmin 3 Deluxe
I just got this game yesterday. I've never played a Pikman game before, but I heard good things.
I like it but the 30 day limit bothers me. I'm on day 3 and am already behind, I got 2 parts, but didn't get the yellow pikmins till day 3.
Motion controls?! I just 100% both of these games and never knew this. lol
I just booted my gamecube version, and I feel like the pikmin actually respond faster there after carrying something to the onion. So unless I'm crazy, it's the only thing that's actually slightly worse on the switch version regarding the responsiveness of the pikmin.
Does it have Gamecube Controller Support? I have a toggle for it for Smash Brothers and All-Stars, and I would love to use it for Pikmin.
I will say getting Pikmin 1+2 for switch is a great way to play those games but alternatively getting a Wii Modding it and putting games on a flash drive is cheap as heck. Also Emulators are 100% free.
Given these are such barebones ports with almost no improvements this is waaaay overpriced. Metroid Prime was a much better deal and was a huge upgrade over the old versions so 100% worth it but even as a pikmin fan this is absolutely not . Especialiy as both 1 and 2 are very easy to emulate running perfectly with minimal effort and have some realy nice 4k texture packs that offer a huge upgrade over these versions. It was dissapointing we didnt get 1 and 2 properly upgraded in line with pikmin 3 Back when this launched on Switch that would have been a fantastic deal for a 3 in one.
I have my Gamecube and Switch setup right now on the TV. Just last week before this announcement I was playing Pikmin on the Gamecube. Just saying, lol
I pre ordered the physical release. not buying it digital. I already have them on gamecube so it's not like I am desperate to play them before Pikmin 4. I want to show my support by buying the physical copy for sure though. Lucky digital fans.
In no was are those two games worth $70 dollars. I was expecting a $40 bundle at the most, a $30 deal at the least. To bad. I figured younger people that missed these would love to play through the franchise’s beginnings but to this price I hope it fails.
All the negatives with the camera are positives for me BURN THE INVERTED CAMREA
I totally have an option between the switch, GC, and Wii versions, both hardware and emulated (on Steamdeck)
Which should I use?
I Hope they fix motion controls beacuse they ruin exeperijces for me
They ruin AIM
Pikmin are stupid
Pikmin do what they want
Pikmin responsiveness reads as a bad change to me. A big part 9f what makes the first Pikmin work that the sequels failed to understand is the finesse required to control the Pikmin. You're SUPPOSED to lose Pikmin over small mistakes, it's a core part of the gameplay loop.
I have both a Wii and Switch set up, but I also play Pokepark Wii Pikachu's Adventure so I'm kind of a statistical outlier.
This is how you stop piracy, make your rerelease BETTER than the pirated versions
2:17 I have my GameCube and Switch set up. I also still have my copies of Pikmin 1 and 2 from childhood.
I don't know if i missed it or not but was the crush glitch fixed. That glitch was where i lost a majority of pikmin in 1. I don't like the sound of the new controls so if the crush glitch is still present I'll probably just save my money and stick with the wii version
Man, it looks cool but $70+... For a port, not even a remake....... Why would I not just emulate?