I think that Wurmcoil art is a victim of accidental forced-perspective. To my eye, that human is waaay back in the distance, and the wurm is actually rather tiny.
Correction on the blue enchant. Order of turn goes as follows; Untap Upkeep Draw Precombat main phase Combat phase Post combat main phase Untap Upkeep Draw End step
@patrickmcathey7081 yes, the effect triggers at beginning of post c9mbat but read a bit further and it tells you when it actually goes off. "Additional beginning phase after this phase" which would be once postcombat main phase is done.
@@patrickmcathey7081 It's weirdly written. The effect triggers at the beginning of the post-combat main phase, but the effects of the effect don't actually apply until you end the post-combat main phase. Basically, when the PCMP starts, you just make a note that you'll be doing a beginning phase after this.
Shadow of the Second Sun works like Sphinx of the Second Sun. After the post-combat main phase, you get a beginning phase and then you move on to the end step. The card itself triggers at the beginning of the post-combat main phase and that's where the confusion happens.
Genku is Tamiyo's hsband, and the tokes are their chidren. the moonfolk represent the boy and the girl they had togeter, the rat is Nashi, and the kistune/fox may be a new addition to the family
As I read it, you will still get your Post Combat Main Phase. Shadow of the Second Sun has a trigger at the beginning of the Post Combat Main that gives you an additional Beginning Phase after the Post Combat Main Phase ends. So you go start Post Combat Main, trigger Shadow, do whatever you can/want during your PC Main, then have an untap, upkeep, draw, and then move to End Phase.
Thinking of Azlask & Annihilator, for those who don't remember the rules Annihilator triggers BEFORE blockers are declared, so you can't chump block a token to stop it's advance & then sacrifice it to the Annihilation effect. This guy is DANCING in front of the ban hammer, especially for just 3 mana.
I think what also helps feel old-school about the Shadow of the Second Sun is also that this cark was shown with the old-school border. But yes - This give me Mirage era art vibes.
Maskwood Nexus, EVERYBODY gets Annihilator 1 and Indestructible! Shadow of the Second Sun is just an Enchantment version of Sphinx of the Second Sun, who does the same thing, but as a 6/6 Flier. The reason you would want to demonstrate your creatures is you get two and your opponent only gets 1. also you could have tribal boosts that your opponents would have to further break the symmetry. Ulamog only cares about the biggest card in exile. So you have one of those cards that exiles a dude from your graveyard to make a token of it or something like that, you can set your values as high as you like regardless of what your opponents have.
Shadow of the second sun gives you the additional beginning phase after the postcombat main phase. It's written weirdly like this to avoid some weird shenanigans.
Shadow of the Second Sun is just an enchantment version of Sphinx of the Second Sun. Great for blue decks as you go into your opponent's turn with an extra card and untapped lands.
Shadow of the Second Sun is pretty much like the Sphinx of the Second Sun: At the beginning of the postcombat main phase, the ability triggers, but it creates the additional beginning phase once the main one has ended. So, the turn ends up like this: •Beginning •Precombat Main •Combat •Trigger (Time when the ability can be responded to). •Postcombat main •Additional beginning (When the ability creates the extra phase) •End The wording in these cards is confusing, because the trigger happens in one phase and the extra happens in another one.
Well, spicy just got better. Not sure how much this this affects Modern with their hard focus on Commander but it surely will "force" some rotation into the format again.
If you carefully read Shadow of the Second Sun it says "At the beginning of your post combat main phase, there is an additional beginning phase AFTER this phase." So at the beginning of your post combat main phase Second Sun triggers, then you continue on with your post combat main phase, then Second Sun resolves giving you the additional beginning phase
It’s even worse if another card coming in modern horizon 3 called echoes of eternity is on the field cause it doubles triggered effects of colorless creatures making Ulamog, the Defiler a win condition.
Iread Shadow to mean that your postcombat main phase continues following the extra beginning step. It just slots in when the Shdow trigger resolves. Once those phases are done, continue with your postcombat main phase. So you can use your now untapped mana to cast new things.
This is structured the way that Sphinx of the Second Sun works. You trigger at the beginning of the post combat main phase. Then, at the end of that post combat main phase, you take an additional beginning phase. Lands untap, creatures lose summoning sickness thanks to having an upkeep, and then you trigger a draw step. Immediately after, you go to clean up. It's funky.
@chickenrichard5024 Yeah, youre right. At the beginning of the phase you get something after the end of the phase. Clunky wording. I dont like it as much, but I guess if you play a alot of instants.
After Modern Horizons 2 and Commander Masters, I was convinced that the Commander sets were meh and designed to just sell based on "Commander" in the name. Then the MH sets are more designed for Commander with some stuff to boost the Modern power level, just to sell more. This really solidifies it. That said, though, I only play Commander, so not really that broken up about it.
10:00 Cranial plating will give an explosion of power. Surestrike Trident will make use of that immense power. Voltron kn the go 28:15 It would lovely go in my Populate decks (both Naya and Selesnya) since I can use and abuse all of those tokens
I don't know if anyone already said, but Serum Visionary DO HAVE 2 arms 🙂 Left arm is basically hidden behind his left palm (right bottom corner) of picture
I believe after the additional Beginning Phase, the Postcombat Main is eliminated, since the parenthesis says the End phase follows after the additional beginning phase. So after that second draw, the turn ends?
19:00 im sure someone else has rules lawyered and smoothed out the logic. But it reads to me that it triggers at the beginning of the post combat main phase, resolves after the phase ends, then the end phase goes off after the second beginning phase ends. But it is very awkwardly worded, no doubt.
demonstrate sounded like a weird mechanic so looked up where it's from of course it's from commander 2021 sounds about right like sure you could probably find a reason to play it in 1v1 but for 5 mana that's a tough sell
I appreciate you sharing the new leaks from MH3. Some of these cards are really good. Shadow of the Second Sun is insane. Thank you for the video Magic Historian.
Mogg Mob plus Obosh equals have a great time. Or Fiery Emancipation considering you already need that triple red. Also, Shadow of the Second Sun might work well in a Curse deck.
Some of these cards must come from Ooma, who puts everything counters on creatures and lands. Making both every type. So all your lands and dryads become gates and stuff. I can’t wait for this cool concept.
That Ulamog, and the tribal spell...will go BONKERS. I'm gonna need to get them! But i feel like the set's gonna see a lot of bannings on cards being perhaps "too useful" for modern, and even perhaps commander.
You got me with that thumbnail. With the name of the that card and saying how broken MH3 is, I thought that was a blue version of Approach of the Second Sun. That scared me shitless. Nice to know it’s just an Aura version of Sphinx of the Second Sun. That’s fine. Weak, actually. Six mana is a lot for a Seedborn Muse that draws you a card. And it doesn’t even come with a 6/6 Flying body. Meh
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You might be right, but if it's state-based and not triggered, it would go in APNAP order and then you'd die first, right? I'm not arguing, just asking. It's confusing.
@paulthetexan spells that are copied still need to be resolved individually. And because the active player's copy goes on the stack first, because APNAP, the opponents resolves first.
@@stigmaoftherose I think all the copies go on the battlefield at the same time since it's part of resolving the card's ability. However, since it's your turn, you can order the triggers however you want. I just couldn't remember if Phage's ability is a trigger or SBA and it turns out it's a trigger, so you would obviously choose to put your copy's trigger on the stack first so your opponent's would resolve first. But you could misclick it on MTGO for example and make yourself lose.
@@paulthetexan "2021-04-16 This means that if you cast a spell with demonstrate and both you and an opponent copy it, the opponent's copy will resolve first, then your copy will resolve, and finally the original spell will resolve." demonstrate ruling on gatherer.
Yay, yet another useful Flare. Must be nice. That piece of glossy toilet paper Green’s getting stuck with just irritates me the more times I see that almost literally valueless card.
The more cards I see, the more I think MH3 is just a collection of cards that didn't make it into their target set, so they just put them all into this one set. This set is all over the place!
I like how their focus on this set is them talking about the art from the artists and it’s only because they’ve been called out about the bs AI art and stolen art. Don’t be surprised if they did the same thing with this set. 🤷
“I didn’t want the fact it’s supposed to be about Modern to limit us” That was something he said at one point. Clearly actual tournament magic is dead. They only want to do Commander.
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I think that Wurmcoil art is a victim of accidental forced-perspective. To my eye, that human is waaay back in the distance, and the wurm is actually rather tiny.
Correction on the blue enchant.
Order of turn goes as follows;
Untap
Upkeep
Draw
Precombat main phase
Combat phase
Post combat main phase
Untap
Upkeep
Draw
End step
Card specifies after the phase ends is when it adds the beginning step.
Doest the card say at the beginning of post combat not the end?
@patrickmcathey7081 yes, the effect triggers at beginning of post c9mbat but read a bit further and it tells you when it actually goes off.
"Additional beginning phase after this phase" which would be once postcombat main phase is done.
@@patrickmcathey7081 It's weirdly written. The effect triggers at the beginning of the post-combat main phase, but the effects of the effect don't actually apply until you end the post-combat main phase. Basically, when the PCMP starts, you just make a note that you'll be doing a beginning phase after this.
Sphinx of the Second Sun
Shadow of the Second Sun works like Sphinx of the Second Sun. After the post-combat main phase, you get a beginning phase and then you move on to the end step. The card itself triggers at the beginning of the post-combat main phase and that's where the confusion happens.
Phyrexia crawled so eldrazi could run.
Slivers slithered
@@ClosedOpenness Goblins Gobbled, Elves had bad will ferral movie
Thats such a dope line
WotC cycling between their two most popular antagonist creature types.
@Jeremvy stop giving wotc ideas!!! Lol
"I cast In Garruk's Wake."
"Me too, fam!"
*sacrifices a goblin to copy*
Mogg Mob is just a triple Mogg Fanatic, and that's so cool.
Genku is Tamiyo's hsband, and the tokes are their chidren. the moonfolk represent the boy and the girl they had togeter, the rat is Nashi, and the kistune/fox may be a new addition to the family
Nashi? A pet?
@@freddiesimmons1394 no I meant the tokens represnet the res of the famiçy
@@freddiesimmons1394 Nashi was adopted by Tamiyo and Genku after his home was destroyed
Mog mob is part of a cycle i think. Its 3 mog fanatics. Healer flock is 3 healer hawks, llanowar tribe is llanowar elves
Next one: three delvers of secrets
As I read it, you will still get your Post Combat Main Phase. Shadow of the Second Sun has a trigger at the beginning of the Post Combat Main that gives you an additional Beginning Phase after the Post Combat Main Phase ends. So you go start Post Combat Main, trigger Shadow, do whatever you can/want during your PC Main, then have an untap, upkeep, draw, and then move to End Phase.
Thinking of Azlask & Annihilator, for those who don't remember the rules Annihilator triggers BEFORE blockers are declared, so you can't chump block a token to stop it's advance & then sacrifice it to the Annihilation effect. This guy is DANCING in front of the ban hammer, especially for just 3 mana.
Genku is Tamiyo's husband, and the tokens represent their 3 children.
Poor Tamiyo. It should have been Nahiri.
I got a Mirage Block vibe from the art on Shadow of the Second Sun.
I think what also helps feel old-school about the Shadow of the Second Sun is also that this cark was shown with the old-school border. But yes - This give me Mirage era art vibes.
Maskwood Nexus, EVERYBODY gets Annihilator 1 and Indestructible!
Shadow of the Second Sun is just an Enchantment version of Sphinx of the Second Sun, who does the same thing, but as a 6/6 Flier.
The reason you would want to demonstrate your creatures is you get two and your opponent only gets 1. also you could have tribal boosts that your opponents would have to further break the symmetry.
Ulamog only cares about the biggest card in exile. So you have one of those cards that exiles a dude from your graveyard to make a token of it or something like that, you can set your values as high as you like regardless of what your opponents have.
Shadow of the second sun gives you the additional beginning phase after the postcombat main phase. It's written weirdly like this to avoid some weird shenanigans.
Oi, don't knock the Wurmcoil Larva, its good to see they're not power-creeping everything, jo?
Hourglass of the Lost is the white version of The Midnight Clock and I LOVE that card. U/W control in commander is gonna love this!
Shadow of the Second Sun is just an enchantment version of Sphinx of the Second Sun. Great for blue decks as you go into your opponent's turn with an extra card and untapped lands.
That retro frame Shadow of the Second Sun hits the mark. The art is perfect, definitely feels like a old school magic card. And it's a powerful card.
Shadow of the Second Sun is pretty much like the Sphinx of the Second Sun: At the beginning of the postcombat main phase, the ability triggers, but it creates the additional beginning phase once the main one has ended. So, the turn ends up like this:
•Beginning
•Precombat Main
•Combat
•Trigger (Time when the ability can be responded to).
•Postcombat main
•Additional beginning (When the ability creates the extra phase)
•End
The wording in these cards is confusing, because the trigger happens in one phase and the extra happens in another one.
Well, spicy just got better. Not sure how much this this affects Modern with their hard focus on Commander but it surely will "force" some rotation into the format again.
For Second Sun, it goes:
MP2, Untap, Upkeep, Draw, End
It triggers at the beginning of MP2, you get those AFTER THIS PHASE (MP2).
FYI, Arna is a throwback to the Kjeldoran skynights. They knights rode big burbs.
17:56 I get strong Visions vibes from shadow of the second sun.
I want to see a goblin brew with Flare of Duplication, turning excess goblins (or even Ragavans) into Goblin Grenades and Lightning Bolts.
Bruh forgot about Dr Madison Li from the fallout commander deck...the energy based artifact loving reanimate one lol
If you carefully read Shadow of the Second Sun it says "At the beginning of your post combat main phase, there is an additional beginning phase AFTER this phase." So at the beginning of your post combat main phase Second Sun triggers, then you continue on with your post combat main phase, then Second Sun resolves giving you the additional beginning phase
"Trickster's Elk"? Those absolute mad lads, they finally did it.
Ulamog, the Defiler is absolutely bonkers. Hard to believe this made print.
It’s even worse if another card coming in modern horizon 3 called echoes of eternity is on the field cause it doubles triggered effects of colorless creatures making Ulamog, the Defiler a win condition.
The wording on shadow of the second sun makes me think the extra beginning step happens after your post combat main phase right before the end step
Iread Shadow to mean that your postcombat main phase continues following the extra beginning step. It just slots in when the Shdow trigger resolves. Once those phases are done, continue with your postcombat main phase. So you can use your now untapped mana to cast new things.
This is structured the way that Sphinx of the Second Sun works. You trigger at the beginning of the post combat main phase. Then, at the end of that post combat main phase, you take an additional beginning phase. Lands untap, creatures lose summoning sickness thanks to having an upkeep, and then you trigger a draw step. Immediately after, you go to clean up. It's funky.
@chickenrichard5024 Yeah, youre right. At the beginning of the phase you get something after the end of the phase. Clunky wording. I dont like it as much, but I guess if you play a alot of instants.
After Modern Horizons 2 and Commander Masters, I was convinced that the Commander sets were meh and designed to just sell based on "Commander" in the name. Then the MH sets are more designed for Commander with some stuff to boost the Modern power level, just to sell more. This really solidifies it. That said, though, I only play Commander, so not really that broken up about it.
Fun fact, on Azlask, every WUBRG you pay gives an additional annihilator 1. So for ten mana, make your dudes bigger AND have annihilator 2.
10:00 Cranial plating will give an explosion of power. Surestrike Trident will make use of that immense power. Voltron kn the go
28:15 It would lovely go in my Populate decks (both Naya and Selesnya) since I can use and abuse all of those tokens
16:30 you get a beginning phase at the end of your post combat mainphase. So you untap upkeep draw at end of turn.
You're thinking of paradox haze.
serum visionary is not missing an arm lol... its the palm of his hand covering his arm.
6:13 BOB.
My name's Billy
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS
I don't know if anyone already said, but Serum Visionary DO HAVE 2 arms 🙂 Left arm is basically hidden behind his left palm (right bottom corner) of picture
I believe after the additional Beginning Phase, the Postcombat Main is eliminated, since the parenthesis says the End phase follows after the additional beginning phase. So after that second draw, the turn ends?
Suncleanser can make you lose energy counters
19:00 im sure someone else has rules lawyered and smoothed out the logic. But it reads to me that it triggers at the beginning of the post combat main phase, resolves after the phase ends, then the end phase goes off after the second beginning phase ends. But it is very awkwardly worded, no doubt.
Assblast the Swelling Scrotum was a pretty cool card
Shadow of the Second Sun. I see what you mean about old school art feeling. It reminds me of the artwork of Kaja Foglio.
Ulamog, the Defiler checks ALL cards in exile, not just the ones exiled by your opponent through his 'when cast' ability.
27:30
Why would you want to do this? Creatures that are better for you because of their specific synergy. Or craterhoof
demonstrate sounded like a weird mechanic so looked up where it's from of course it's from commander 2021 sounds about right like sure you could probably find a reason to play it in 1v1 but for 5 mana that's a tough sell
You get your second main phase, but there is a trigger at the end of it.
Genku is Tamiyos husband the tokens are their adopted children, like Nashi
I appreciate you sharing the new leaks from MH3. Some of these cards are really good. Shadow of the Second Sun is insane. Thank you for the video Magic Historian.
Paradox Haze is the 2 and a Blue enchantment that gives an extra upkeep. This new card provides more. Seems like it will be fun with my zombies.
Flare of duplication will be band red white burn will be tear one again
Mogg Mob plus Obosh equals have a great time. Or Fiery Emancipation considering you already need that triple red. Also, Shadow of the Second Sun might work well in a Curse deck.
Three Mogg Fanatics stapled together continues the cool cycle started with three Llanowar Elves stapled together in Llanowar Tribe.
Oh, and Healer's Flock, the triple Healer's Hawk. So we're 3/5...Soon
The only thing worse that keeping Eldrazi legal is printing more and increasingly pushed ones
Flare of disruption being a free counterspell for another counterspell is pretty nutty, buddy
I never seen minority report, that sounds like a cool movie. Thanks for the recommend!
3:33 Also the experience counters don't go on the card, they get given to the player like poison counters! I feel like that's going to be dangerous.
Some of these cards must come from Ooma, who puts everything counters on creatures and lands. Making both every type. So all your lands and dryads become gates and stuff. I can’t wait for this cool concept.
Not me screaming at the screen “read the card”
Question, for that Flare of Duplication could you just target itself over and over to get an infinite storm count?
Wait a minute, no way that works, but I'm struggling to tell you why that wouldn't work
@@Kingnothing7x storm is a cast trigger, the copies this spell make aren't cast and put directly on the stack... I asked Reddit lol
Correct me if I'm wrong but Genku would be esper color identity in commander because it's effect makes black rats
Why dont they word these cards like shadow of the second sun to trigger at the end of your postcombat main
That Ulamog, and the tribal spell...will go BONKERS. I'm gonna need to get them!
But i feel like the set's gonna see a lot of bannings on cards being perhaps "too useful" for modern, and even perhaps commander.
That’s not how second sun works, this works just like the sphinx, you go through turn, until end of post combat main, start over then end immediately
Fun fact; Arna's bird is named Billy
You got me with that thumbnail. With the name of the that card and saying how broken MH3 is, I thought that was a blue version of Approach of the Second Sun.
That scared me shitless. Nice to know it’s just an Aura version of Sphinx of the Second Sun. That’s fine. Weak, actually. Six mana is a lot for a Seedborn Muse that draws you a card. And it doesn’t even come with a 6/6 Flying body. Meh
Tbh I’d still want the Eldrazi Dragon even if it was just a 4/4 Annihilator 1 flyer for 6
Paradox haze is the enchament from time spiral I believe.
I wonder if maskwood nexus works on aslask’s second ability since it doesn’t specify spawn and scion tokens
Ward on Ulamog seems a bit much. They really wanted to make sure that this heavy investment into colourless had relevant game enders huh.
The mogg mob doesn't even look like moggs
Upkeep card is paradox haze.
"accidentally calls it commander horizons" we respond... duh.
If you localized destruction and used no energy would your 0/X's still be destroyed?
For Genku, the tokens are the children of Tamiyo. Like for instance, the black rat would be Nashi. You failed the flavor, Purp!
Oh, great. now there's a WUBRG Eldrazi commander.
Great stream i loved the new leaks ❤
Wouldn't Titania's Song trigger loss of energy?
THIS much Eldrazi support is a massive damn mistake
How many times are they going to reprint Sphinx's revelation?
lmao shadow of the second sun is literally just time walk
Mogg Mob is 3 Mogg fanatics on a trenchcoat.
Where do you get the “story” for these releases?
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17:14 paradox haze
27:20 I believe the opponent's copy of Phage would resolve first, meaning they would lose the game before you would.
You might be right, but if it's state-based and not triggered, it would go in APNAP order and then you'd die first, right? I'm not arguing, just asking. It's confusing.
@paulthetexan spells that are copied still need to be resolved individually. And because the active player's copy goes on the stack first, because APNAP, the opponents resolves first.
@@stigmaoftherose I think all the copies go on the battlefield at the same time since it's part of resolving the card's ability. However, since it's your turn, you can order the triggers however you want. I just couldn't remember if Phage's ability is a trigger or SBA and it turns out it's a trigger, so you would obviously choose to put your copy's trigger on the stack first so your opponent's would resolve first. But you could misclick it on MTGO for example and make yourself lose.
@@paulthetexan "2021-04-16 This means that if you cast a spell with demonstrate and both you and an opponent copy it, the opponent's copy will resolve first, then your copy will resolve, and finally the original spell will resolve." demonstrate ruling on gatherer.
@@mawillix2018 Cool, thank you. Always good to get official answers.
You forget the word 'after' at the end
The wurmcoil is a uncommon, did you expect it to have mythic qualities?? Lol.
Yay, yet another useful Flare.
Must be nice. That piece of glossy toilet paper Green’s getting stuck with just irritates me the more times I see that almost literally valueless card.
I like the wurmcoil larva, if it was just 1 mana less it would be pretty bonkers.
since it says 'dies' it would be nice in a teysa deck I think she'll make it trigger twice. so you'd get 2x 2/1s and 2x 1/2s
Genku is supposed to be tamiyos husband or something like that and those are their kids... I don't remember
That azlask is gonna be a strong build around
wurmcoil larva should have been 2 and 2 black.
Sage of the Maze almost reminds me of original Eladamri? Almost?
There are cards that interact with citizens specifically
Wubrg isn’t that hard to do, especially with shocks and fetches running around
when you pay energy, you loose it as well.
The more cards I see, the more I think MH3 is just a collection of cards that didn't make it into their target set, so they just put them all into this one set. This set is all over the place!
I like how their focus on this set is them talking about the art from the artists and it’s only because they’ve been called out about the bs AI art and stolen art. Don’t be surprised if they did the same thing with this set. 🤷
we need more of the Shadows of the Second Sun style art and less of the digital AI stolen art crap.
Just for the name, I want to see a Lizard Wizard deck...
“I didn’t want the fact it’s supposed to be about Modern to limit us”
That was something he said at one point. Clearly actual tournament magic is dead. They only want to do Commander.