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  • From it's birth in 2011 to massive 4,000 player tournament to the current Modern Horizons fueled madness, this is the complete history of the Modern meta!
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    0:00 Start
    0:21 Intro
    1:12 2011
    4:21 2012
    8:49 2014
    12:05 2015
    14:58 2016
    20:12 2017
    22:43 2018
    27:19 2019
    32:02 2020
    33:20 2021
    27:29 2023
    41:00 2024
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  • @Nitnelav1994
    @Nitnelav1994 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +274

    Can't wait for the 23 hour long Complete History of Standard

    • @SpitefulAZ
      @SpitefulAZ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I rather see complete history of legacy.

    • @CHAREDot9
      @CHAREDot9 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Seth:welllllllllllll😅

    • @thedoctorbob7
      @thedoctorbob7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I would actually love to watch that. It would be a great trip down memory lane, remembering decks like UG Madness and Fires

    • @SilverAlex92
      @SilverAlex92 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually I would love a series videos about that. Would be awesome and extremely nostalgic, many past standard have been really amazing and others were WILD like mirrodin, og zendkiar (aka: cawblade) or eldrain.

    • @carlosokelly4937
      @carlosokelly4937 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can we get Crim to do that video? I cannot stand Seth's voice.

  • @Instant_97
    @Instant_97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    Great video! Surprised the decapitation of faithless looting with Hogaak wasn’t discussed more. It hit way more decks than just the Hogaak decks. 🪦 Mardu Pyromancer 🕊️ Sleep well sweet prince.

    • @nharviala
      @nharviala 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Also Rakdos Hallowed Ones, that was a fun deck that Faithless's ban outright slaughtered.

    • @xddddddddddddd
      @xddddddddddddd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ah yes, the entire reason anyone would actually ask about looting unban unironically when looting is responsible for so many other nonsense at the other times its playable in any deck

    • @josephirgang6470
      @josephirgang6470 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Also phoenix which hasn't been mentioned yet.

    • @SilverAlex92
      @SilverAlex92 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Faithless looting had to die for the sins of many degenerate decks :'( rest in peace indeed mardu pyromancer.

    • @COZwei.
      @COZwei. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i miss grishoalbrand

  • @Kazooieandbanjo
    @Kazooieandbanjo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    This video has really put into perspective how much Timeless is just recreating all of the old best Modern decks on Arena

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Maybe that's why I've been enjoying Timeless so much :)

    • @RafitoOoO
      @RafitoOoO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And it's amazing.

    • @tamerlanotrentasei
      @tamerlanotrentasei 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Titan Field, Rakdos Storm, Necropotence?

  • @miguelfreitas5343
    @miguelfreitas5343 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    29:20 Oh yeah, the classic Tron lands. Urza's Mine, Urza's Tower and Urza's Tower 😌

    • @doodimgood
      @doodimgood 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Almost as powerful as the PLANESWALKER Deathright Shaman :P 5:52

    • @SkyBlade79
      @SkyBlade79 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@doodimgood nah people have been calling deathrite shaman a one mana planeswalker for a loooong time

  • @Duall8
    @Duall8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    20:30 I think it deserves a mention that the recent printing of Fatal Push was huge for Death's Shadow, powering up Black's removal immensely as it was the best creature removal in the format, even if the key life-total lowering cards existed for years. While it also killed Shadow, it was key to playing an efficient suite of cards to be able to stay aggressive with the Shadow (to stave aggro) and also get out Gurmag Angler quickly.
    Also sad to not see Lantern Control getting a mention. Such a unique deck even if it didn't get anything banned and alongside Bloom Titan a deck that went undiscovered for a long time.

    • @ThePancaked1
      @ThePancaked1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Fatal push really is a godlike card considering how many broken creatures are 1 to 2 mana

    • @leandroteixeira33
      @leandroteixeira33 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As for Lantern, tecnically it had Mox Opal banned, but what really banned it was the release of Shenanigans.

  • @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle
    @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +370

    Ah yes Deathrite Shaman my favorite Planeswalker

    • @larrea000
      @larrea000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

      It's a joke based on it having three abilities. Confused me a bit at first.

    • @ClubbingSealCub
      @ClubbingSealCub 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Even better, it can't be attacked!

    • @youngmeIIy
      @youngmeIIy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      instantly opened the comment when he said that 😂

    • @demiurge2501
      @demiurge2501 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’m so happy to have him in timeless

    • @SmashCentralOfficial
      @SmashCentralOfficial 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Have you literally never heard this joke lol

  • @mrmagongus
    @mrmagongus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Appreciate the depth and accuracy with which this covers the ever-evolving landscape of the format. However, it wouldn't be a TH-cam comment section if I didn't point out a few things missed.
    I can understand why rules errata was left out of the video for brevity's sake, but you can't mention the history of modern without talking about Tibalt Cascade (not talking about Tibalt's Trickery, but Tibalt the Cosmic Impostor himself). There was a brief period of time when the cascade mechanic allowed you to reveal Valki while casting his double-faced side. With accelerants like Simian Spirit Guide and Gemstone Caverns, players were dropping 7-mana planeswalker bombs as early as turn 1. All they had to do from there was sit behind free or cheap interaction like Force of Negation and Commandeer while Tibalt took over the battlefield singlehandedly. This also only lasted a few weeks before the errata was issued, at the same time as the Trickery banning.
    Shoutout to the Companion errata as well. You used to have free access to Lurrus every single game! Not just a free card in every starting hand, but a free powerful card. What the hell were they thinking lol
    And I feel like Urza's Saga deserved a mention for being the consistent card advantage engine/Hammer tutor that allowed Hammer decks to push to the forefront.
    Lastly, I want to address the controversy of the Splinter Twin banning, though this is more of an opinion. At the time of its banning, Modern had an acceptably diverse top tier of decks, but there were piles upon piles of good and interesting archetypes sitting in the lower tiers that just couldn't crack the top. The biggest reason for this was Splinter Twin -- the archetype was a true gatekeeper. You had to start every single Modern deck, every single *idea*, by asking the question, "how do you beat Twin?". The fact that it was fast, resilient, and required so few pieces meant that most ideas were meaningless in comparison, especially combo decks. Why do anything if Twin just wins on turn 4? The metagame was centered around beating it, which propped up a certain echelon of decks while critically hampering the rest of the field. Once Twin was banned (and Eldrazi was sent back to the shadow realm), the Modern metagame normalized into a place where you could actually take a pet archetype, put in a bunch of hard work, and end up with something competitively viable. Would Matt Nass be able to singlehandedly ascend KCI to the heights of the banlist if his under-represented deck was laughed out of the metagame before it even got off the ground? Would Lantern Control ever win a PT? The banning of Twin, in my opinion, was directly responsible for Modern reaching its pinnacle of deckbuilding ingenuity.
    Anyways, nowadays Modern has been warped so hard by the Horizons releases and F.I.R.E. design that I think Twin poses a significantly less risky question towards the metagame. But just speaking from personal experience, I don't want to go back to the days of wondering "how do I beat Twin"

    • @anthonybrownbrown8602
      @anthonybrownbrown8602 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      not that serious

    • @leandroteixeira33
      @leandroteixeira33 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      About Twin, it's important to also emphasize how the answer to "how do you beat twin ?" was often "just play Twin yourself". Grixis Twin, TarmoTwin, you also saw from time to time even Temur Scapeshift becoming Temur Twin post-board. With anything between 5 and 10 slots, you had a combo that could win at basically any time and thus the opponent would always need to keep mana up for interaction.
      For this exact reason, I believe Twin should never be unbanned. While a pure UR Twin would probably never be relevant once again, Twin could fit very easily in many decks, mana is as good as ever making it very splashable, card selection has improved to the point where you wouldn't need the 10 slots while cards like 3Feri and Binding provide interaction and protection the deck never had access to in it's prime. It's just another angle of attack if the opponent ever underestimates it.

  • @larsegholmfischmann6594
    @larsegholmfischmann6594 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Oh man, I SERIOUSLY miss the early days of Modern 😢

  • @lukecraig4984
    @lukecraig4984 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Absolutely love videos like this! I used to go to my LGS all the time for drafts because I was too poor to play Modern, so I'd only ever hear about various cards on the periphery. It's really cool to hear about all the context I missed during that time!

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Glad you like them!

  • @IlCremo
    @IlCremo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Up to 2019 the best decks where made by mostly old cards. Then from 2019 up until today it is only "Wizard printed this card and broke the format"

  • @vaxfantomen
    @vaxfantomen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    A nod towards Magic Aids as one of the pioneers of modern humans deck

    • @JT-91
      @JT-91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      he was there was drama at the time too because i forgot which pro player tried to claim he made it and magic aids video predated his stake

    • @Atmapalazzo
      @Atmapalazzo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not this bullshit again. Aids takes claim for anything and everything. His name really is true to his role in the community.

    • @Dikarika
      @Dikarika 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He did say "The depths of TH-cam"...

    • @vaxfantomen
      @vaxfantomen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      As if it matters but: It don't really matters who created what because its a card-game and prestige is pointless. He was the one that showed the deck on youtube and got some traction before others did. So I find it fitting to give an comment on the same platform in case people want to check out his old videos about it. Not everyone's taste but I fond him entertaining and the brews solid

    • @NathanLipetz
      @NathanLipetz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Atmapalazzo exactly

  • @jPache
    @jPache 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for putting this together! It was a fun lookback through one of my favorite ways to play!

  • @aidangraham7840
    @aidangraham7840 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is a fantastic video! I appreciate the time and dedication that went into condensing over a decade of info into a consumable and entertaining end product. There are reasonable nitpicks around necessarily brief sections but the video as a whole is an awesome testament to one of Magic's staple formats.

  • @RG-fp1lg
    @RG-fp1lg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    early era of modern was the best magic will ever be, and it will never be nearly that good again

    • @adamjohnson3779
      @adamjohnson3779 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your not wrong. What a golden age we didn’t know how good we had it.

    • @bexclue3007
      @bexclue3007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      the best at what?
      you just enjoyed it the most. doesn't mean it was better

    • @RG-fp1lg
      @RG-fp1lg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there was no such thing as a wrong opinion until you posted this on the internet@@bexclue3007

    • @CelticKnight
      @CelticKnight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ah yes, the "the best era was the era of my youth" fallacy.

  • @jasonhamburger912
    @jasonhamburger912 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Another great video Seth and crew! Thank thanks for the quality content!

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thanks!

  • @nvvv_
    @nvvv_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Love the shoutout for two of my favorite magic creators. MagicAids is amazing, and ManaCymbal is GOATed

  • @kylekovacs497
    @kylekovacs497 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been waiting for a video like this for 3 years. Thank you Seth

  • @joshua_lee732
    @joshua_lee732 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I loved modern from Theros to Just before eldrazi winter. It was an amazing format in those days, and you really could play anything beat anything and lose to anything.
    Nowadays I watch modern and all I see is just another Legacy format with all the free to play cards, auto includes, and ect

    • @JJFN
      @JJFN 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah, every format has been ruined by WOTC's greed. Just printing super powerful cards to sell more and more packs

    • @daveydesjarlais8838
      @daveydesjarlais8838 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Grixis Control with Goblin Dark Dwellers and Cryptic Command in the same deck was just unbelievable.

  • @999Lucas
    @999Lucas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I appreciate this kind of content from you and the fishbowl! it would be fun to explore some other formats, or even some of the most used spells, to drill down further. cheers!

  • @ericbasnight2068
    @ericbasnight2068 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Mr. Olive I don't think you put enough emphasis on how cold that winter was... It was just as intense as Hogaak Summer.

  • @savagesnadgaming7252
    @savagesnadgaming7252 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this video. I really hope the analytics bear that out so you can make more like this. I rarely watch a video entirely from start to finish but this one I did. Seth is so good at narrating with his up and down inflection. He can make Hogaak seem interesting...

  • @bensteinhauser784
    @bensteinhauser784 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What a blast from the past! It's cool to be reminded of all the past top decks but also kind of depressing how many of the recent ones are MH2 adjacent. It would be nice to see most of that set (and leyline binding) banned and have the power of the format reduced a bit.
    MH3 terrifies me lol.

  • @Btaks
    @Btaks หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these MTG History videos with narration by Seth. Would love to see more of these!!

  • @EmperorNapoleon1815
    @EmperorNapoleon1815 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    29:16: *Urza’s Power Plant has left the chat.*
    I love these historical videos. Thanks for the content, Seth!

  • @yourirodrigue7247
    @yourirodrigue7247 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome informative video Seth ! I love all your content, these are very cool as a long time magic player

  • @Money4Nuthing
    @Money4Nuthing 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great video! Love this recap of the best modern decks.
    Here are some other decks that deserve recognition in modern's history: Jund Saga, Living End, Burn, Yawgmoth, Oko Titan, Hardened Scales, UWx Control, 4c Omnath

    • @t.s.dragon2408
      @t.s.dragon2408 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shocked that some of these decks didn’t even get so much as a shout out. Also, don’t forget Phoenix!

  • @brandonbagley795
    @brandonbagley795 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, would love to see more modern content in general. You guys have really cut back over the least year

  • @YepImNakd
    @YepImNakd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved this video. Played a LOT of modern between 2011 and 2017, bringing me back with nostalgia.

  • @MorNamoAnnatrar
    @MorNamoAnnatrar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh, this took me back... Thanks for the great video!

  • @BakaShift
    @BakaShift 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Very much appreciate that this video is already very long and had a lot of work and research put in, so you were only really had time to highlight the most played deck of each era.
    But I must say, only alluding to cascade valki in an offhand mention when many who played during that time consider it to be the most broken and best deck in the history of the format is a shame. Especially as it was during a time where there were so few eyes on the format, so it's a deck a lot of people who don't closely follow the format wouldn't have heard of.
    Either way, great work on this. ✌️

    • @evanmurdzek2935
      @evanmurdzek2935 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Um... so I remeber that deck being stupid and good, but I never heard anyone calling it the "most broken and best deck in the history of the format". There have been many broken decks in modern that I would list above it. I don't know if I somehow completely missed the hype?

    • @ianshevlin8675
      @ianshevlin8675 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@evanmurdzek2935i mean they literally changed a whole keyword so-

    • @Xoulrath_
      @Xoulrath_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ianshevlin8675that's just because they're shitty game designers and don't actually have the ability to forward think. Cascade has been a broken and bad mechanic since it was introduced.

    • @NathanLipetz
      @NathanLipetz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ianshevlin8675 There were several much more broken modern decks than valki

  • @khalilaboidbetancort4079
    @khalilaboidbetancort4079 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nice video, I missed a mention to UR Phoenix or Temur Rhinos at the end of the video. Anyway, a really good video! :D

  • @Skylersuzy
    @Skylersuzy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing content Seth. Thank you so much

  • @johnmack6218
    @johnmack6218 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this Magic history series!!! Thanks!!

  • @jacktorborg9862
    @jacktorborg9862 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One quick add is that scam being good v creativity is 100% not the reason creativity fell off, it was the one ring and a meta change where combo decks were stronger after fury got banned. When all the other decks got one ring, and people assumed (falsely) that creativity had a bad scam matchup, they stopped playing it. Then, when the meta became all combo like living end and rhinos after fury got banned, creativity had a lot of really bad matchups. The deck is quite a bit better now that murk and scam are good again (creativity preys on both slightly, good pilots dumpster scam and are above 50/50 vs murk), and the addition of elesh norn grand cenobite has given the deck a lot of reach vs yawgmoth.
    That aside, and other than some of the minor things others here pointed out, what an amazing and nostalgic video. Moder has a huge history to celebrate and a really bright future. I can't wait to see what modern horizons 3 brings.

  • @SilverAlex92
    @SilverAlex92 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just starting this video and im getting massive nostalgia from when I started playing magic. Pyromancer storm was my first construced deck and it never really had the chance to shyne. In standard Valakut Prime titans withs Gaea's Vengance derstroyed it, and in moderm it got its wings ripped before it could even fly.
    After watching some mroe all I cann say is amazing video, this was truly a treat to walk down the nostalgia road of my entire magic career :)

  • @Inti.G.Olivares
    @Inti.G.Olivares 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The idea behind overextended was in fact the use of previous cards from sets already outside the 2 and 4 years of standard and extended, without pushing to hard as to go to legacy levels and it's cost of investment... That change with sets printed solely for modern (Now is all about the money. The variety of strategies and cards used in tournaments has being reduced to however can pay to stay in the tournaments)

  • @t.s.dragon2408
    @t.s.dragon2408 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the video!
    I have to say though, I was floored by the lack of mention of Izzet Phoenix and the Faithless Looting ban.

  • @theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet
    @theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I started following modern in 2012. This history lesson felt like a gaming life journey.

  • @JoeyFangaz
    @JoeyFangaz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Overextended sounds wonderful. Modern with no Horizons

    • @daveydesjarlais8838
      @daveydesjarlais8838 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We used to just call that Modern.
      Honestly wish Wizards would stop with "Horizons" and just bring back Modern Masters.

  • @-Karnage
    @-Karnage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video. Hope to see more videos like it!

  • @cousinpatsey2471
    @cousinpatsey2471 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm surprised there was no mention of Izzet Phoenix. That deck was solid solid for a bit.

  • @Wishgoat
    @Wishgoat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was a nice stroll down memory lane

  • @jetto__421
    @jetto__421 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these wouldn’t mind more thank you!!

  • @onglt27
    @onglt27 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the trip down memory lane :)

  • @special_circumstancs
    @special_circumstancs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these kinds of videos as someone who wasn't following magic for the last dozen years.

  • @DonWanri
    @DonWanri 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video thank you !

  • @1Samsak
    @1Samsak 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your MTG history vidoes so much

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad you enjoy it!

  • @Sorran87
    @Sorran87 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Modern was truly a great and fantastic format. It will be missed.

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah modern is my fav format and its nowhere near as good as it was in the early days.

  • @jeanmathieupotvin
    @jeanmathieupotvin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this video. Thanks.

  • @tripleeyeemoji2685
    @tripleeyeemoji2685 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! I know there was a lot to cover but surprised to see no mention of the hallow one and phoenix decks in 2018.
    2017-2019 was by far the golden era of modern. I miss that era so much. It hasn’t been the same since MH2 and now LOTR.
    Wizards makes “modern” sets but they seem to be more for commander players, which in turn hurts modern. Commander has been ruining modern for years now, which is unfortunate.

  • @rastapancake9428
    @rastapancake9428 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this type of content!

  • @tcgdude
    @tcgdude 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video. Fingers crossed for this summer with MH3!

  • @erikkennedy4351
    @erikkennedy4351 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super cool to take a trip down memory lane.

  • @jaysonking4055
    @jaysonking4055 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these kinds of videos help me wake up and have a positive day

  • @TransformersBoss
    @TransformersBoss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s hilarious every time a card “designed for Commander” like Hogaak or Omnath accidentally breaks constructed

  • @Sandovian
    @Sandovian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a random copy of Second Sunrise in my collection that I decided to throw in my Equipment EDH deck recently, I had no idea it saw any play let alone was/is banned in a format

  • @spinelliludovic2966
    @spinelliludovic2966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks lot of for this video because modern it's my favorite format ! I love so much this and know this history it's so good really ! 👍👍

  • @jancukasu
    @jancukasu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    23:45 OMG Daddy is mentioned here by Seth! 🤩

  • @Meskarts
    @Meskarts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video!!

  • @BobiwaneKilobits
    @BobiwaneKilobits 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video

  • @SpecialKail
    @SpecialKail 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lol someone did the F6 gag on Commander at Home's most recent episode. I knew what F6 meant, but I didn't know the historical context. Good stuff

    • @KynElwynn
      @KynElwynn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "someone" being the Professor from the Tolarian Community College channel

    • @SpecialKail
      @SpecialKail 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KynElwynn I couldn't remember exactly who it was

  • @porthabalar5014
    @porthabalar5014 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2016 was peak Modern, splinter twin and Abzan Leige Decks plus Jund, zoo, Merfolk, and good control decks

  • @megapixzel
    @megapixzel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd watch like an 8 hr version of this ngl. the meta shifts are fascinating, i remember scrolling through old Frank lepore videos when he was still with and just watching the story play out in video titles "what is jund? Junds not that good. okay junds pretty good, i've finally found the jund killer (repeat 8x), so anyway i'm playing jund"

  • @derekbrothers4674
    @derekbrothers4674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video

  • @jackl8025
    @jackl8025 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It probably wasn't a healthy format but Treasure Cruise Modern was my favorite. Delver was a deck full of commons. Even Mono Red burn played a playset of treasure cruise. Still waiting to see it eat a ban in Pioneer

    • @clashcitycretin10
      @clashcitycretin10 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It prob never will. Only 1 deck in the entire format plays it.

    • @zirilan3398
      @zirilan3398 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The chance of Cruise getting banned in Pioneer are close to 0 as you don`t have actual fetchlands to speed up the grave. I am more concerned about Amalia seeing a ban than anything else in Pioneer really.

    • @clashcitycretin10
      @clashcitycretin10 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zirilan3398 Amelia loses to gravehate and simple interaction.

    • @bensteinhauser784
      @bensteinhauser784 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@zirilan3398Problem isn't really Amelia though, it's collected company. Amelia combo is about level with Greasefang in terms of power but one uses CoCo way better and is a much stronger deck because of it.

    • @Duall8
      @Duall8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Expressive Iteration truly died for Cruise's sins, and banning Iteration over it basically soft banned all other Izzet+ decks except Phoenix out of the format as there are no other Izzet multicolors even close to what other multicolors have in the format. It's sad, and kind of crazy with people like Gab Nassif running UB Phoenix now showing you don't even need red mana to play the deck (though you probably definitely would if Cruise and Iteration were legal).

  • @SpitefulAZ
    @SpitefulAZ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    loved this video! please do the meta of legacy next :)

  • @pomposso_typer
    @pomposso_typer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    1:03 lol how the times have changed

  • @RafaGonzalezGouveia
    @RafaGonzalezGouveia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    loved this video since I am a relative new player !

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad you liked it!

  • @Aetohatir
    @Aetohatir 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the magicaids credit. While a bit problematic, his builds and humor are still great, and he deserves the recognition.

  • @Ocramman86
    @Ocramman86 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @kaylee42900
    @kaylee42900 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Splinter Twin ban bumped me out of mtg for like 5 years. Just didn't have the time and money to rebuild and relearn a new deck.

  • @mr_go0se469
    @mr_go0se469 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love if we got a history video of each major format

  • @jonathanmillis2015
    @jonathanmillis2015 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always thought that eggs as an archetype referred to the mana cost 0. I didn't know the egg cycle even existed.

  • @nuubituubifromfinland9102
    @nuubituubifromfinland9102 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh! This explains a lot why grief is such expensive card. Packed extented art foil week ago, and was shocked to see price but didn't understand why. I have only played commander and started mtg 2020

  • @starkimaru
    @starkimaru 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My only hope and dream is that wizards stop printing 'money' and return to the olden ways of Magic that looks and plays like Magic used to before Modern Horizons...

    • @fireemblemistrash75
      @fireemblemistrash75 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same man same… but it has been a long time

  • @leemay7780
    @leemay7780 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video

  • @chuffmuchly3392
    @chuffmuchly3392 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ooo this is cool content

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks!

  • @trappychan
    @trappychan 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been playing Modern since the start and I love this video. It always irks me when ppl talk about Modern being "eternal", "diverse", "non-rotational"... The reality is Modern has only ever been nice like that for brief periods, or if you're okay with not playing tier 1. It's always been a format of broken metas being succeeded by new printings and bans "rotating" the tier 1 over and over. Your (very expensive) deck could be rendered unplayable or tier 2/3 by the meta or a ban, which have always happened constantly. Some decks have had longevity, like mono-red burn, infect, lantern, 8-Rack, Dredge... but these were tier 2 or tier 3 (or tier 4 sorry 8-rack lol) decks for most of their longevity (I did love when Infect and Dredge were tier 1 though).
    I just love the Modern powerlevel. It's a great format if you don't go in with the illusion that it's "eternal" and "non-rotational" (no format truly is if you want to play tier 1) and instead enjoy it for what it is: Really fun and competitive Magic. Peak Magic, one may say. :)
    The true "eternity" of Modern is just that you can carry fetch lands and shock lands through the years, making the financial burden of the meta a little less frustrating (specially now with 10$ fetches and 5$ shocks, thank you WotC!)

  • @PokeMultiverse
    @PokeMultiverse 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I stopped MTG in 2014 but that 2016 infect deck looks a lot like my very first infect build. I hadnt even discovered standard yet, I was just getting into the game, and with some old cards and some new cards, I built an infect deck that my friends hated because I could consistently win turn 2 or 3 with a cheap infect boy and mutagenic growth, giant growth, and might of old krosa (from a friends older collection).

  • @Menttih
    @Menttih 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I won tournament at Local game store with Robots. After Mox Opal ban i just switched my deck to Legacy format. Soon i noticed that deck does not manage to get enough wins so i just sold my whole deck.
    I have to figure it out what to play in Modern still if i want to continue with at all. Thank you Seth for doing videos that matter for mtg scene!

    • @bensteinhauser784
      @bensteinhauser784 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I strongly recommend Pioneer instead. Significantly better price wise and there's no direct to format sets.

    • @TehSeksyManz
      @TehSeksyManz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hardened Scales is a pretty legit deck these days and can be built for a relatively low price and can be upgraded over time

    • @lesternomo6578
      @lesternomo6578 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hardened scales is probably the closest thing in modern today, very strong deck but is hard to play

  • @ashra8281
    @ashra8281 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd love more like this

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Maybe I'll try another format if people like it.

  • @brianstephens8337
    @brianstephens8337 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm so glad I've gotten to see Modern grow and flourish and become riddled with exactly the money problems that legacy had.

  • @Durgenheim
    @Durgenheim 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I love how Seth says “Gol-Gary Grave Troll” 😂

    • @1AKAvg
      @1AKAvg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Now I want a "Gol-Gary Merchant of Asphodel"

  • @gavinmarlow3545
    @gavinmarlow3545 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a long time lover of affinity, I’ll never forgive them for banning opal

    • @LaughingDepressed
      @LaughingDepressed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I still remember the day....I walked into my local tournament with my 2 favorite decks at the time. Paradoxical outcome and affinity 😂. That night I created an amulet titan deck and have been meaning to create hardened scales to get that archbound ravanger "itch".

  • @d.b.hemlock
    @d.b.hemlock 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish I had been playing when Hogaak was a thing. Deck looks extremely cool and right up my alley. I wish Dredge/Graveyard decks wouldn't get hit so quickly by ban lists.

  • @QuietlyHere666
    @QuietlyHere666 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Grief still needs to catch a ban before i can recommend the format.
    Two cards being ripped from your opening hand and leaving an evasive creature behind is busted, no question.
    Even if you've got two answers, you dont now, you have to topdeck a new one.
    With fury banned, ephemerate grief is the new pain in the ass and cant even hate on that with grave hate

  • @henrye3935
    @henrye3935 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I miss classic Modern so much

  • @8628416
    @8628416 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's both super interesting and sad to see this video. Seeing "power creep" (rather power explosion) dominate the game's design crew so blatantly since 2019 makes me VERY happy I made the decision to make my own cube. Probably never playing competitive again. Started playing modern in 2017, those times are unfortunately over.

  • @esrohm6460
    @esrohm6460 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i remember how i got my gp promo stoneforge mythic way under prize thanks to being buddys with my trader and then it suddenly got good in modern. still never sold it but that would have been an insane deal

  • @Matti_Mattsen
    @Matti_Mattsen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seth's hatred for eggs is hilarious, i for one really liked the archetype (though my favourite version is the one with aetherflux reservoir and mystic forge)

    • @LaughingDepressed
      @LaughingDepressed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have you tried the new version that runs beseech the mirror and amulet of vigor with lotus field? Got 2 turn 2 kills with it and consistent turn 3's.....so what I'm saying is....eggs are back on the menu. Stay sunny side up 🤓

    • @Matti_Mattsen
      @Matti_Mattsen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LaughingDepressed oh i don't know that deck, do you have a decklist? sounds fun

    • @LaughingDepressed
      @LaughingDepressed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Matti_Mattsen I do I'll go ahead and put the list in a copy paste one sec

    • @LaughingDepressed
      @LaughingDepressed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Matti_Mattsen the Aetherflux in the side you switch out for codex against graveyard hate and the preordain are the flex slots. Switch out a hallowed fountain for breeding pool if you want to run the haywire mites
      4 Amulet of Vigor
      4 Beseech the Mirror
      1 Bolas's Citadel
      4 Chromatic Sphere
      4 Chromatic Star
      1 Codex Shredder
      4 Conjurer's Bauble
      4 Faith's Reward
      4 Flooded Strand
      2 Hallowed Fountain
      2 Island
      4 Lotus Bloom
      4 Lotus Field
      1 Otawara, Soaring City
      1 Plains
      4 Preordain
      1 Pyrite Spellbomb
      4 Reshape
      4 Urza's Saga
      2 Wizard's Rockets
      1 Zuran Orb
      Sideboard
      1 Aetherflux Reservoir
      1 Breeding Pool
      2 Haywire Mite
      4 Leyline of Sanctity
      1 Pithing Needle
      2 Prismatic Ending
      4 Silence

    • @Matti_Mattsen
      @Matti_Mattsen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LaughingDepressed awesome, thanks a lot!

  • @twi1ightknight
    @twi1ightknight 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jim playing the tron in that clip is hillarious

  • @zunamie
    @zunamie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Please do this for all formats

  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna8494 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It amuses me that Wizards still cannot bring itself to call Scam by its proper name and still refers to it as "Rakdos Midrange". It's like a string of mistakes they cannot bring themselves to acknowledge and learn from.

  • @rafaelbarboni182
    @rafaelbarboni182 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Miss some decks like abzan with rhinos, mardu with bedlam and jeskai Control with thundermaw hellkite. This decks made a history for themselves on the format

  • @headhunterhades3816
    @headhunterhades3816 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Modern was what brought me into magic and even though I left the format right before MH1 (because my local meta at the time was all death & taxes, or control) it’s still my favorite format. That being said, it honestly really depresses me to look at what it’s become. Gone are the days when I could roll up with my $90 mono red burn deck or some other cheap jank pile and have a good time. To somewhat quote Dr. Seuss/The Lorax “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not."

  • @alexmaragh7766
    @alexmaragh7766 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m pretty sure khans of tarkir also brought the og fetch lands into modern

  • @B-Ran_the_Man
    @B-Ran_the_Man 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Free Splinter Twin!!!

  • @JoeyPasco
    @JoeyPasco 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:27 FYI, WotC gave previews to sites and podcasts in those days as well. Specifically, the podcast I co-hosted at the time (In Contention) was given the card Slitherhead to preview from RTR 🙂

  • @parc57
    @parc57 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My boy burn always lurking in the shadows

  • @K_Renegade
    @K_Renegade 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:50 It’s a minor detail, but Patrick Chapin lost in the finals of that World Championship in 2014. That was the year Shahar won his second title.