Congratulations Angel & Tom ... Egg #2 has hatched. First view is at 01:22:41pm. Be sure to visit the nest... link provided in the description. Thanks for viewing.
Being young & his first nesting season Tom was very confused. He did display some "paternal instincts" also which was the sad part. Tom almost did the same when the 2nd eyas hatched. The confusion was there again. I have a video of that event also. Angel got back in time & made Tom leave the nest. After that, it all clicked & Tom became a really great provider. I still believe if Angel would have introduced Tom to the eyas before leaving, it would have been different.
There could have been a defect with chick #1 that we can't perceive but Tom could? Infanticide as a brood reduction can sometimes happen if the resources available in the area are limited.
Although that does happen, I don't think so in this case because Angel accepted the chick & Tom almost did the same to their 2nd chick but Angel came back & protected it. I still believe if Angel would have introduced Tom to the chick before she left it unattended this might not have happened.
I think when Angel saw what Tom did and then told him that’s his own chick that he has attacked, he flew off a bit but come back trying to revive his chick even it was too late. Nowadays he is doing better to take care of the second chick.
I've been watching RTH nest cams for some years now but this was a first for watching a new young male's first nesting season. Although tragic it was both educational to watch Tom develop and an insight to what might be instinct vs learned behavior.
It seems like he realizes what he did and regrets it to the point of trying to wake it up, and then moves it over by the other egg and incubates both. ("I didn't do it, honest.")
Something happened to make him change like that. I still believe if Angel would have introduced Tom to the chick first things would have been different. Because when Angel came in and put herself between Tom and the 2nd chick is when he changed.
The second time viewing this- I think about it. Perhaps the male failed to bring food to the nesting female and was still in the hunting for prey mode. He did not recognize the little white chick/eyas as his offspring but easy prey to feed to the female. He killed it very quickly (which surprised me). Since these birds of prey are actually cannibals, I always believe that chromosome damage presents in all birds who prey and consume birds-like mad cow disease-but retarded bird disease. If humans can observe a cute chick as helpless and the offspring of a hawk then Tom is missing all that instinctual recognition because of some brain damage or something.
Correct... Tom didn't recognize the chick as offspring but what you are seeing is Instinct vs Learned behavior. Angel made a big mistake as well. If you watch a lot of Raptor nests when the male comes in a lot of the females will stand up and introduce the new hatchling to the male first before leaving or so he knows it's time to go hunt. Angel didn't do that she left it unattended. What are his instincts telling him? This was his first offspring. Then he changed after it died and showed a parental side. Also a lot of animals will eat their own kind its not cannibalism in that sense. In nature nothing goes to waste it doesn't cause diseases. Its inbreeding that causes issues. Cats & dogs will eat their new born. Raptors will eat or feed a deceased offspring to the surviving. As humans, we have learned what these helpless chicks are just like all baby animals. If you have watched Tom he learned really quick with the second chick. Why... because Angel returned back to the nest in time and put herself between Tom & the chick. She protected it and told him to leave. Tom returned to the nest the 2nd time Angel wasn't there but didn't stay. He looked at the chick & something clicked... It was time for him to go hunt and provide like his parents did. This is what I interpreted the events to be.
That is true but I don't think it was in this case & usually it's the female that kills the offspring. This was the first nesting season for the male and just an unfortunate event. He almost killed the second chick but the female returned in time to protect it. He has turned out to be a really good provider for a first time dad & only 3 or 3-1/2 yrs old.
This is Tom's first nesting season & just didn't understand & maybe confused. Angel should have waited until Tom came to the nest and introduced him to their new chick first but she left the nest & chick unattended. It's not all Tom's fault.
It was a sad and unfortunate event to see. Egg #2 is hatching and should be out sometime today (4-30). I believe things will be different now for this one.
Oui, le mâle est un nouveau papa et n'a pas compris que le poussin était le sien. / Yes, the male is a new dad and did not understand that the chick was his.
She's so sad. She so gently tries to wake her baby. Wow, just wow. I think he may understand and tries to wake baby too. Hopefully he'll be ok with the next one. 😢
Congratulations Angel & Tom ... Egg #2 has hatched. First view is at 01:22:41pm. Be sure to visit the nest... link provided in the description. Thanks for viewing.
You could tell that Tom was sad after he realized what happened
Being young & his first nesting season Tom was very confused. He did display some "paternal instincts" also which was the sad part. Tom almost did the same when the 2nd eyas hatched. The confusion was there again. I have a video of that event also. Angel got back in time & made Tom leave the nest. After that, it all clicked & Tom became a really great provider. I still believe if Angel would have introduced Tom to the eyas before leaving, it would have been different.
There could have been a defect with chick #1 that we can't perceive but Tom could? Infanticide as a brood reduction can sometimes happen if the resources available in the area are limited.
Although that does happen, I don't think so in this case because Angel accepted the chick & Tom almost did the same to their 2nd chick but Angel came back & protected it. I still believe if Angel would have introduced Tom to the chick before she left it unattended this might not have happened.
I think when Angel saw what Tom did and then told him that’s his own chick that he has attacked, he flew off a bit but come back trying to revive his chick even it was too late. Nowadays he is doing better to take care of the second chick.
An unfortunate learning event for Tom but yes... he is doing great.
Was it only one chick in the nest?
There were two hatches... the first one on 4-28 that was killed & the second one on 4-30 is doing great.
I love the Red-tailed hawks they have always been my favorite . So sad about baby chick 1.
I've been watching RTH nest cams for some years now but this was a first for watching a new young male's first nesting season. Although tragic it was both educational to watch Tom develop and an insight to what might be instinct vs learned behavior.
It seems like he realizes what he did and regrets it to the point of trying to wake it up, and then moves it over by the other egg and incubates both. ("I didn't do it, honest.")
Something happened to make him change like that. I still believe if Angel would have introduced Tom to the chick first things would have been different. Because when Angel came in and put herself between Tom and the 2nd chick is when he changed.
How it croak ?
The male accidentally killed it
@@uwohaliproductions5624 dam tough break
The second time viewing this- I think about it. Perhaps the male failed to bring food to the nesting female and was still in the hunting for prey mode. He did not recognize the little white chick/eyas as his offspring but easy prey to feed to the female. He killed it very quickly (which surprised me). Since these birds of prey are actually cannibals, I always believe that chromosome damage presents in all birds who prey and consume birds-like mad cow disease-but retarded bird disease. If humans can observe a cute chick as helpless and the offspring of a hawk then Tom is missing all that instinctual recognition because of some brain damage or something.
Correct... Tom didn't recognize the chick as offspring but what you are seeing is Instinct vs Learned behavior. Angel made a big mistake as well. If you watch a lot of Raptor nests when the male comes in a lot of the females will stand up and introduce the new hatchling to the male first before leaving or so he knows it's time to go hunt. Angel didn't do that she left it unattended. What are his instincts telling him? This was his first offspring. Then he changed after it died and showed a parental side.
Also a lot of animals will eat their own kind its not cannibalism in that sense. In nature nothing goes to waste it doesn't cause diseases. Its inbreeding that causes issues. Cats & dogs will eat their new born. Raptors will eat or feed a deceased offspring to the surviving. As humans, we have learned what these helpless chicks are just like all baby animals. If you have watched Tom he learned really quick with the second chick. Why... because Angel returned back to the nest in time and put herself between Tom & the chick. She protected it and told him to leave. Tom returned to the nest the 2nd time Angel wasn't there but didn't stay. He looked at the chick & something clicked... It was time for him to go hunt and provide like his parents did. This is what I interpreted the events to be.
Even sadder bcz when he comes back, he doesn't realize what he had done & the poor baby was dead. 😥😥😥😥😥
It was a sad event to witness but Tom is doing great with the 2nd eyas / RTH5
Animals will often kill their offspring if there is a birth defect. It is not something that we see as humans but the animals seem to know.
That is true but I don't think it was in this case & usually it's the female that kills the offspring. This was the first nesting season for the male and just an unfortunate event. He almost killed the second chick but the female returned in time to protect it. He has turned out to be a really good provider for a first time dad & only 3 or 3-1/2 yrs old.
Why?
This is Tom's first nesting season & just didn't understand & maybe confused. Angel should have waited until Tom came to the nest and introduced him to their new chick first but she left the nest & chick unattended. It's not all Tom's fault.
@@uwohaliproductions5624 Typical males, very clumsy and unorganized.
Не понял почему это сделал отец
Я не думаю, что кто-то действительно может понять, почему
😢
It was a sad and unfortunate event to see. Egg #2 is hatching and should be out sometime today (4-30). I believe things will be different now for this one.
I hope that everything very well, now.❤😊
Yes... lets hope for the best
😢😢😢😢😢
It was a sad event the unfortunately happened
Thats an red tailed hawk
Yes... a very rare leucistic RTH
即 離婚です💦
いいえ、彼らはうまくやってしまった
So cute baby sleeping stuffed with food
I'm not sure what you are referring to but tragically the chick was killed by Tom.
il est mort le petit
Oui, le mâle est un nouveau papa et n'a pas compris que le poussin était le sien. / Yes, the male is a new dad and did not understand that the chick was his.
She's so sad. She so gently tries to wake her baby. Wow, just wow. I think he may understand and tries to wake baby too. Hopefully he'll be ok with the next one. 😢
Egg #2 has hatched, first view is at 01:22:41pm. I believe things will be positive this time.
@@uwohaliproductions5624 lets hope so😢