I have speakers hanging from my ceiling. Often overlooked but make good atmos speakers are outdoor speakers. Most come with the brackets for hanging, you can also tilt to taste for aiming, and they usually have a wider dispersion than bookshelfs. Now OSD makes a outdoor speaker I am curious what they sound like. They are pendant style. I think they would look better as just like hanging lights and great for use in rooms with vaulted ceilings.
I had Dolby enabled Atmos speakers, didn’t like having them on top of my towers. After watching a YT video on that subject, moved them to on wall. I now have front, middle, and rear height channels. I did learn that a setting in my receiver (loudness management) when turned off gives you more volume (when the receiver is in Atmos mode)
I have in ceiling speakers and I love them. However, it is definitely won't work. Especially if you need to change location. That ends up being major drywall repair( been there done that) I tested out the prime elevation and they sounded great. However, the timbre really did not match with my speakers. It sounded okay for movies, but I do all channels to test out the sound in the room. Movies are easy to hide, but music reveals everything. It drove me crazy. The fact that I will hear differences as I walked around the room. That's what drove me to in ceiling. At the time Polk didn't have an Height option. I did buy the Polk r900s which I use initially for rears because my room was so small. I got the idea from watching your videos. However, I repositioned them and now use them as sites arounds. I made sure with a laser pointer that the tweeter was directly pointed at the listing position. They work great there. (Unfortunately, that's what led to the major drywall repair in my ceiling shifting my front atmos speakers) Like you're set up. Love seeing your journey
This was a debate I was having for a long time with my system. I ended up going with some Sonance in ceiling speakers. What I really like about them is the fact that the woofer and the tweeter is amiable. So they don't just shoot straight down giving me better placement options. In ceilings just look so clean.
I have Dolby Atmos in ceiling, like you I tried different ways inceiling is better. I use my prime elevations as my surrounds for some reason they match well with my KEF Q750, Q650 cc, Uni-Q 160 in ceiling. I am going to replace the elevations with some in wall.
I have four 6.5 Klipsch AIMABLE in ceiling front and rear heights. They have removable magnetic grills, very nice. 5 channels run off 5 channel 1000W Emotiva, 2 channel 600W crown driving the front towers and the Atmos speakers driven by the receiver.
I tried bouncy upfiring. It was ok. I got prime elevatuons but didnt want to run wires accross ceiling or through walls, so i just opted for SVS's side configuration. It does a pretty good job of imaging height. I had one scene where the sound seemed directly above me, despite speakers being to my side. 2 things i would change: #1: i wish i had more vertical separation from heights and bed layer (8ft ceilings with tower bed layer) #2: i need a second amp for my heights to see if it improves sound. Definately helped my bed layer
I 1st had in ceiling speakers and I loved it. After I moved I had to go with rear mounted on wall speakers. It never did it for me. Now in my new setup I'm running 4 in ceiling and 2 front on wall (height) speakers. Still waiting to test the current setup out but in short in ceiling is the way to go
Like with light, speaker radiation attenuates by 4x every doubling of distance.. never mind the extra spread pattern it causes. If you think about how far those set on top of your mains (a.k.a. elevation speakers) have to travel, it probably adds nearly double the distance over wall or ceiling mounted. I have some Polk XT90 "toppers" that while they worked, they were just lost in the rest of the setup and barely noticeable. Luckily, like most, mine can be mounted to the wall directly. I wound up moving mine up, using some adjustable brackets on the walls near the corners of the room allowing me to point them exactly the way I need. It improved their response immensely.
I personally didn't like the design of the prime elevation speakers. All they seem to do is fire over ones head (especially in small rooms) The ones I use now have a ball & joint connection. Not only are you able to pinpoint the audio, but with a little straightening of the supplied L-shaped arm, one is also able to achieve an extra 4 inches of distance from wall to rear port (8" total) which in itself helps to reinforces the bass. Plus, if I don't mind saying, the floating effect looks pretty good, too.
Finally I will install 4 height channel in my atmos setup. Due to room size, the ideal combination to me is by choosing fromt height amd top rear. Hopefully it will be significant upgrade from 2 channel top middle.
I rent an apartment. I have four Sony SS-CSE Dolby Atmos enabled speakers mounted high on the wall, front and mid room. Finally I have Sony RS-CS5s which are wireless rear surround battery powered, with upfireing Dolby Atmos all controlled by STR AZ7000ES receiver along with two SW3 wireless subwoofers. All for a 9x9x9 home cinema area, for a 6.2.6 system as the Sony TV has acoustic center lift for dialog using the TVs screen to have dialog coming from actors mouth
Great Information video on Atmos speakers. I've been tossing up weather to use in ceiling speakers or bookshelf for ATMOS heights. I have now decided on in ceiling speakers thanks to your video. What size 8 inch or 6 inch. ? Cheers
remember when you put a KLIPSCH 5.1 theater pack in for your boss that time? I use those and i use the center channel as my voice of god channel ! works good with a 5 channel amp! loud as crap!!
the hardest problem to install the in ceiling speakers is running the speaker wires from the AV rack to the ceiling. can you do a video how you accomplished that feat?
I have been going through the same I thought that the up firing was the dogs nuts then everyone said it was shite. I can't have ceiling speakers dl😢 indomt mind the aesthetics I'm ugly now too😊
I'm thinking of upgrading to 5.1.4 in the next few months. not sure whether to get AMS (400€) or bronze 50 (290€ with current 36% discount) bookshelf speakers, from the monitor audio bronze 6gen series. I'm guessing the bookshelf speakers, with much better specs, would do a lot better job, right? they would require additional wall brackets (Vogel's VLB200 available), but the main goal, to have the best possible Atmos effect, definitely is worth it. what would you recommend? and about placement, 2 front heights and 2 surround heights? no room for rear heights as sofa is backed to the wall.
I have celling speakers for my Atmos speakers that are 8” OSD speakers but I can’t find any way to get the audio to connect them because my room is on the first floor and I don’t want to cut out the ceiling at every joist so I can run the wires through to each speaker. If I had a attic I could probably get it done if I could get the wife to agree with it. I don’t think she will ever agree with me cutting out 4 holes in the ceiling because she has told me she doesn’t want me doing that at all. I have tried to do the on wall mount but it doesn’t work and I have 4 Atmos speakers that sits on top of the speakers and they are not all that good so I mounted them on the ceiling 30degrees from the wall and 35degrees apart and then 110 degrees from front to back speakers and they are working great and the speakers are a match for the bed layer speakers and I am still working on the complete set up with rew to get a better quality sound.
If there isn't insulation above your ceiling u can buy one of those really strong magnets the ones that u roll on the drywall thing your painting. There videos on TH-cam how to do it.
can u share a pic so I can see what it looks like? Thinking of mounting my Klipsch pp-firing RP 500SA in the ceiling and am having a hard time finding compatible mounts.
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Having both is actually something I've tried and liked, rear heights + top fronts is a great combo from my experience
I have speakers hanging from my ceiling. Often overlooked but make good atmos speakers are outdoor speakers. Most come with the brackets for hanging, you can also tilt to taste for aiming, and they usually have a wider dispersion than bookshelfs. Now OSD makes a outdoor speaker I am curious what they sound like. They are pendant style. I think they would look better as just like hanging lights and great for use in rooms with vaulted ceilings.
I agree with this
I had Dolby enabled Atmos speakers, didn’t like having them on top of my towers. After watching a YT video on that subject, moved them to on wall. I now have front, middle, and rear height channels. I did learn that a setting in my receiver (loudness management) when turned off gives you more volume (when the receiver is in Atmos mode)
I have in ceiling speakers and I love them. However, it is definitely won't work. Especially if you need to change location. That ends up being major drywall repair( been there done that)
I tested out the prime elevation and they sounded great. However, the timbre really did not match with my speakers. It sounded okay for movies, but I do all channels to test out the sound in the room. Movies are easy to hide, but music reveals everything. It drove me crazy. The fact that I will hear differences as I walked around the room. That's what drove me to in ceiling.
At the time Polk didn't have an Height option. I did buy the Polk r900s which I use initially for rears because my room was so small. I got the idea from watching your videos. However, I repositioned them and now use them as sites arounds. I made sure with a laser pointer that the tweeter was directly pointed at the listing position. They work great there. (Unfortunately, that's what led to the major drywall repair in my ceiling shifting my front atmos speakers)
Like you're set up. Love seeing your journey
This was a debate I was having for a long time with my system. I ended up going with some Sonance in ceiling speakers. What I really like about them is the fact that the woofer and the tweeter is amiable. So they don't just shoot straight down giving me better placement options. In ceilings just look so clean.
I have Dolby Atmos in ceiling, like you I tried different ways inceiling is better. I use my prime elevations as my surrounds for some reason they match well with my KEF Q750, Q650 cc, Uni-Q 160 in ceiling. I am going to replace the elevations with some in wall.
I have four 6.5 Klipsch AIMABLE in ceiling front and rear heights. They have removable magnetic grills, very nice. 5 channels run off 5 channel 1000W Emotiva, 2 channel 600W crown driving the front towers and the Atmos speakers driven by the receiver.
I had some Elac enabled atmos speakers,hated them. I then went to some B&W in ceiling speakers and loved them. The difference was night and day.
I tried bouncy upfiring. It was ok. I got prime elevatuons but didnt want to run wires accross ceiling or through walls, so i just opted for SVS's side configuration. It does a pretty good job of imaging height. I had one scene where the sound seemed directly above me, despite speakers being to my side. 2 things i would change: #1: i wish i had more vertical separation from heights and bed layer (8ft ceilings with tower bed layer) #2: i need a second amp for my heights to see if it improves sound. Definately helped my bed layer
Nice to have those in-ceiling above you. Totally.
I mounted my speakers on a custom rail system. They are best like that.
Very cool! Need you in an episode of subscriber showcase!
I 1st had in ceiling speakers and I loved it. After I moved I had to go with rear mounted on wall speakers. It never did it for me. Now in my new setup I'm running 4 in ceiling and 2 front on wall (height) speakers.
Still waiting to test the current setup out but in short in ceiling is the way to go
Like with light, speaker radiation attenuates by 4x every doubling of distance.. never mind the extra spread pattern it causes. If you think about how far those set on top of your mains (a.k.a. elevation speakers) have to travel, it probably adds nearly double the distance over wall or ceiling mounted.
I have some Polk XT90 "toppers" that while they worked, they were just lost in the rest of the setup and barely noticeable. Luckily, like most, mine can be mounted to the wall directly. I wound up moving mine up, using some adjustable brackets on the walls near the corners of the room allowing me to point them exactly the way I need. It improved their response immensely.
I personally didn't like the design of the prime elevation speakers. All they seem to do is fire over ones head (especially in small rooms)
The ones I use now have a ball & joint connection. Not only are you able to pinpoint the audio, but with a little straightening of the supplied L-shaped arm, one is also able to achieve an extra 4 inches of distance from wall to rear port (8" total) which in itself helps to reinforces the bass. Plus, if I don't mind saying, the floating effect looks pretty good, too.
This looks great. I’m sure it sounds amazing too.
Finally I will install 4 height channel in my atmos setup. Due to room size, the ideal combination to me is by choosing fromt height amd top rear. Hopefully it will be significant upgrade from 2 channel top middle.
Nice setup. Thanks for the post.
@jjmag3107 Thanks for watching
Big Like. Loved the new room! congratulations!
I appreciate it!
I rent an apartment. I have four Sony SS-CSE Dolby Atmos enabled speakers mounted high on the wall, front and mid room. Finally I have Sony RS-CS5s which are wireless rear surround battery powered, with upfireing Dolby Atmos all controlled by STR AZ7000ES receiver along with two SW3 wireless subwoofers. All for a 9x9x9 home cinema area, for a 6.2.6 system as the Sony TV has acoustic center lift for dialog using the TVs screen to have dialog coming from actors mouth
I use mines as front heights
Great Information video on Atmos speakers. I've been tossing up weather to use in ceiling speakers or bookshelf for ATMOS heights. I have now decided on in ceiling speakers thanks to your video. What size 8 inch or 6 inch. ? Cheers
I personally wouldn't go smaller than 6in. Mine are 8in. But if you ever decide to change them out I'm assuming 6in will be easier to find than 8in.
I have in 4 in ceilings speaker, but I'm considering adding front heights, but my 6700H doesn't possess 9.6.4 I'm using splitter for the sub.
You need the 8500h to do that
remember when you put a KLIPSCH 5.1 theater pack in for your boss that time? I use those and i use the center channel as my voice of god channel ! works good with a 5 channel amp!
loud as crap!!
Not a bad idea
thank you've answered my question
the hardest problem to install the in ceiling speakers is running the speaker wires from the AV rack to the ceiling. can you do a video how you accomplished that feat?
I did
I have been going through the same I thought that the up firing was the dogs nuts then everyone said it was shite. I can't have ceiling speakers dl😢 indomt mind the aesthetics I'm ugly now too😊
When you go to a Dolby commercial theater the Atmos speakers are hanging from the ceiling!
How about mounting the elevations to the sidewalls as high as possible in front and behind the sets?
It's fine
@@Kpaceguy Thx that helps with installing.
I'm thinking of upgrading to 5.1.4 in the next few months. not sure whether to get AMS (400€) or bronze 50 (290€ with current 36% discount) bookshelf speakers, from the monitor audio bronze 6gen series. I'm guessing the bookshelf speakers, with much better specs, would do a lot better job, right? they would require additional wall brackets (Vogel's VLB200 available), but the main goal, to have the best possible Atmos effect, definitely is worth it.
what would you recommend? and about placement, 2 front heights and 2 surround heights? no room for rear heights as sofa is backed to the wall.
Try out Bookshelves first
What kind of in ceiling speakers do you recommend. Not all companies make them. I was just wondering what maybe you've heard sounds good.
A lot of people buy polks or klipsch
@@Kpaceguy Thank you. 🤙
I have celling speakers for my Atmos speakers that are 8” OSD speakers but I can’t find any way to get the audio to connect them because my room is on the first floor and I don’t want to cut out the ceiling at every joist so I can run the wires through to each speaker. If I had a attic I could probably get it done if I could get the wife to agree with it. I don’t think she will ever agree with me cutting out 4 holes in the ceiling because she has told me she doesn’t want me doing that at all. I have tried to do the on wall mount but it doesn’t work and I have 4 Atmos speakers that sits on top of the speakers and they are not all that good so I mounted them on the ceiling 30degrees from the wall and 35degrees apart and then 110 degrees from front to back speakers and they are working great and the speakers are a match for the bed layer speakers and I am still working on the complete set up with rew to get a better quality sound.
Buy outdoor speakers and use them for atmos. They come with brackets at you can angle and hang by a screw.
If there isn't insulation above your ceiling u can buy one of those really strong magnets the ones that u roll on the drywall thing your painting. There videos on TH-cam how to do it.
I hav svs on the ceiling there great
What did you use to mount your Prime elevation speakers in the ceiling?
@@delarue98 they come with their own mounts
can u share a pic so I can see what it looks like? Thinking of mounting my Klipsch pp-firing RP 500SA in the ceiling and am having a hard time finding compatible mounts.
@delarue98 it won't work either its only for svs
I have front heights in my setup
Next time we’ll have to try tower speakers for atmos😂
I'm sure its a thing somewhere out there
Is it easy to install in celling , have no idea how to do it?
It's easy if you have access to the attic. It's a bit tricky if you don't
I prefer SVS Elevation speakers.
May I know your room size?
13 deep 10.5ft wide. 8ft ceilings
"warts"