CZ P-07 vs. Beretta PX4 Storm Compact Carry: CCW perfection?

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  • My take on the P-07 and PX4, both phenomenal handguns.

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  • @cosmolinefiend9853
    @cosmolinefiend9853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I love my p-07. I had my slide done up by jaegerwerks and stippled the frame. Threw in a primary machine match threaded barrel and a micro comp. thinking of getting her cajun’d up soon as well. CZ’s are just great guns. Thanks J.

    • @MadLadsAnonymous
      @MadLadsAnonymous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cosmoline Fiend I've heard great things about CGW but please also check out vids on the MCarbo trigger kit. People are seeing DA/SA pulls like 6.75/2.5 lbs. Compatible with Omega systems. Cheers.

    • @korazjian5251
      @korazjian5251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MadLadsAnonymous buddy has a cajunized p07 and i had a stock p07...
      i was in the same boat as you but decided to take a chance and the MCARBO kit literally gave the same results at $30
      only difference is the CGW package has a little bit better of a reset for 10x the price and 3-4 months of sending it away

  • @alexanderlee7247
    @alexanderlee7247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think that the CZ P07 is a really over looked gun in the mid-size handgun world. 1. It comes stock with metal night sights 2. DA/Sa 3. Low-bore axis 4.Metal Mag 5. CZ reliability 6. Great ergonomics 7.Ambi-controls 8. Front and rear slide serrations 9. Omega trigger 10. It’s a CZ (like saying, it’s a Porsche, reliable, good to look at and always looked over)

  • @Jeff-xn1ew
    @Jeff-xn1ew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just came across this video. I watch you all the time and haven’t seen anything new for awhile. Thanks for what do in your videos. I like the p07 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @anicus4702
    @anicus4702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    When I purchased my latest handgun, I was looking for a DA/SA home defense gun. I had narrowed my list down to these two guns. I was leaning CZ due to liking the looks better and is decocker only. Locally I couldn't find one under $479, so when I found a Storm for $369 the savings persuaded me and I bought it. I was iffy on it at first, especially the looks, but then I took it to the range. I have to say I love it. 100% reliable and very accurate. I now have a D spring in it and converted it to a G model and like it even more. It is an awesome gun.

  • @vzhojh3845
    @vzhojh3845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I own a P-07 and love it's features and accuracy right out of the box. I obtained my CCW permit with it. I found a PX4 Storm at a local pawn shop for $336 and couldn't pass that up. Happy with both guns.

  • @OneIotaOfaDifference
    @OneIotaOfaDifference 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I now own both of these pistols. --- I just got my PX4 Storm Compact Carry-2. I really like the recessed hammer, and really like the orange-red glow front sight. It's very easy to line up on target. Try it, you'll like it. - I have to say its trigger is the absolute best there is compared to all the other DA pistols I have - velvety smooth and precise DA action each and every time. -- One thing I think will really surprise new users of this weapon is the decocker. When I first racked it for dry-fire and used the decocker, I expected a soft seating of the hammer like on my other DA pistols. My CZ-P07 decocker is the best - it gently seats the hammer to half-cock. - Well, the decocker on the PX4 CC2 releases the hammer with a seemingly full trigger force. I thought:- Oh boy -- that's not good! - It felt like decocking the hammer would certainly fire the pistol. The hammer force in decocking felt exactly the same as dry-firing it. - So, put my trusty 9mm laser round in it - decocked it - the hammer came down hard, but no laser fire. Dry-fired it and the laser lit up on the wall. Did both several times with the same result - decocking doesn't activate the laser round while firing the pistol does. Since Beretta does not cover this very strange phenomenon in their manual or in any review I've seen so far, including this one, can someone please explain how the hammer on the PX4 CC2 coming down with seemingly full firing force while decocking does not fire the pistol? Thanks.

  • @BlackCloud0351
    @BlackCloud0351 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Have both a P-07 Duty and PX4 Compact (converted to “G” decocker-only), and to ask me which one I prefer would depend on the mood I wake up in, as I shoot both of them equally as well and have no clear cut favorite and they share carry time for EDC. Love all my “old-school” DA/SA and real DAO hammer-fired handguns, but especially my CZ’s and Beretta’s!

  • @magicluis145
    @magicluis145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've owned both, still own the PX4. Both guns were reliable, but the PX4 is better in every aspect except slide/barrel finish and grip texture. The PX4 is ugly to most, but it's been so good that I've grown to love it. The P07 does have a better aftermarket, the PX4 is limited to Beretta or Landon. The PX4 full size .40 is one of the softest shooting polymer .40's that I've ever shot.

  • @Blackpowderdad
    @Blackpowderdad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow prices are different now, 3 years later. For the full soze of both, cz is $600 and the cx4 is $505 after the $75 rebate that they have this summer. Great video, I’m going with the beretta!!

  • @Renaldo135
    @Renaldo135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    found a PXSTORM Subcompact in both 40 and 9 at a local place for $350 used but mint. I already have the P07 and love it.

  • @tobylmiller
    @tobylmiller 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video!!! I'm so glad to see the PX4 finally getting some love... very underrated/unappreciated for so long. You correctly pointed out that - if you were to get all the changes/upgrades found on the Carry/Compact Carry - you would save money in the long run (even more so, if the owner couldn't DIY). As for the price comparison, IMHO the more accurate match up would be with the standard PX4 Compact. This is the route I took. I picked up an Inox Compact and loved it out of the box, but I was surprised at the significant impact a relatively small investment made: $9-12 hammer spring swap $17 for the Talons, and $40-75 to swap out the decocker levers (if not, the PX4 can be converted to Type-G - decocker only - in about 15 minutes, for FREE). I still may swap the sites out, at some point, but I haven't felt the need to do much more with it... just an incredibly good and flat shooter!

    • @tobylmiller
      @tobylmiller 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I finally ordered & installed the 11# hammer spring from Langdon Tactical (LTT)... again - WOW! Another significant decrease in DA/SA trigger pull weight and overall improvement of action. For $12, you can't beat it... LOVE IT! :)

    • @tobylmiller
      @tobylmiller 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jay The Security Guy It's about as night/day different as when I first installed the D-spring. Right away, I noticed a significant difference :) Basically, you have the following for a PX4, with a stock trigger:
      Stock spring: DA 9.9# / SA 5.1#
      D-spring: DA 8# / SA 4.5#
      12# spring (LTT): DA 7-8# / SA 4#
      11# spring (LTT): DA 6-7# / SA 3.5-4#
      Excerpts from LTT: "The 11# and 12# hammer springs are both acceptable
      for duty and competition use in the PX4. We use the 11# hammer springs in the PX4's on all of our trigger jobs now given the extensive testing and performance.
      It is highly recommended
      The D model hammer spring in the PX4 from Beretta is 'about a 12.5# spring' "

    • @tobylmiller
      @tobylmiller 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jay The Security Guy awesome! I look forward 2 hearing what you think :-)

  • @JacksonWalter735
    @JacksonWalter735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I personally prefer my P-07 (especially at its price compared tp the PX4 Storm Compact) and it's not surprising that it's my EDC. I like the size, how it looks, and how little the muzzle flip is when I shoot compared to my Sig P320. The ergonomics are great and I love the beavertail on the grip which makes it so comfortable to get your hand under. If you want a gun with more aftermarket support, the CZ P07 (and the larger P09) would be the one to get. Those folks at Cajun Gunworks make magic happen if you are willing to pay for it. There are also more optic friendly custom cuts you can get from various companies and lighting cuts to lighten up the slide.
    While I've never shot a PX4 Storm Compact before, I've shot the full size variant plenty of time. I hate to admit it but for some reason I shoot way better on the PX4 Storm. For how large the slide is, the PX4 is a very flat shooting gun. I actually prefer the recoil impulse on the PX4 Storm. It's one of the easiest guns to take apart and maintain as well. I also like the futuristic 80s Sci-Fi look it has going. You can also get a Langdon slide if you want it to be optics ready. The only two gripe I have with the PX4 Storm is the safety/decocker and the smooth grip. The safety/decocker stabs my fingers when I rack the slide quickly and I'm afraid of accidentally flipping on the safety in an environment where I need my gun to work. No doubt this can be accounted for with training though and the compact's wing safety/decocker doesn't look as sharp. You can always get the G model or buy the parts to make the PX4 Storm a decocker only. The grip on the PX4 Storm is great on the front strap and back strap, but the sides are so smooth (especially for your support hand to really lockdown the grip). Talon grips or a custom stipple job would be the way to go for me.
    You really can't go wrong with either gun and it comes down to preference. I would be happy with either one.

    • @2ndAdvent888
      @2ndAdvent888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree can you recommend an EDC holster for P07. Thank you!

    • @JacksonWalter735
      @JacksonWalter735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2ndAdvent888 I personally use a Harry's Holsters Singleton with my P07. I carry AIWB and it's perfect during Autumn/Winter. This isn't left hand friendly though and can be picky with some aftermarket sights. I never bought an OWB holster for it so I can't comment on that.
      I do have a Vedder RapidTuck for my PX4 Storm and I like that a lot. You can customize it to fit your hand orientation, with an optic, and leather for comfort. I might get one for my CZ P07 down the line, but my Harry's Holster has worked well so far for what I need.

  • @snail415
    @snail415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 2021, it’s nice to go back to a time when a knowledgeable reviewer compared two things in a thoughtful, informative and comprehensive manner.

    • @dleej30
      @dleej30 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d say that is entirely accurate! I like both and fired both, love the looks of both equally...
      At the end of the day I went with the one that was available for purchase🤷🏻‍♂️ P07👍🏼.
      Only gun I truly ever thought was ugly was an Apx and a hi point being the ugliest lol But I own an Apx now and would never part with it.

  • @clima
    @clima 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree, CZ is a lot of gun for the money, great firearm. However, I made a decision to sell one of my 3, 9mm compacts and sold my CZ P-07 and kept my Glock 19 and PX4 C.
    It took me a while to get used to it , but once I started shooting more and making some minor modifications , the PX4 is my favorite carry more so than my G19. Even though the PX4 is a bit heavier, Overall, the PX4 gives me tighter groups and less recoil for sure,. Gun is very comfortable carrying AIWB .
    Now im looking forward to get a PX4 C in 40 S&W.

  • @huntingold7672
    @huntingold7672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Just bought a PX4 Storm compact today for $479 + tax at Academy Sports.

    • @roraev9296
      @roraev9296 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The gun in the video is a PX4 Compact Carry, not the regular production PX4 Compact. The PX4CC is indeed around $800.00 vs. the $450.00 range for the basic Beretta version.

  • @HarrysHolsters
    @HarrysHolsters 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Good comparison. Unfortunately the PX4 doesn't get enough attention due to it's looks.

    • @InsightHM
      @InsightHM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @Michael Shearer I hear people say this often. I guess beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder because to my eye the PX4 is a very attractive gun. Most people that shoot them tend to like them and they seem to have a pretty solid reputation overall. PX4 in .45 was the first gun I ever bought and I still love it. The only negative I can say is it may have too much of a "sci-fi" look I guess. This might make it seem kinda toy-like to some people which can give the wrong impressions.

    • @AOMartialArts
      @AOMartialArts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think the Px4 and the Cx4 are very appealing in a unique, futuristic kind of way. I don't particularly care for the safety/decocker wings on the Px4 but overall neat design.
      What the industry needs is willful and intentional departures from the boring "glock copy".
      Px4: check
      Remington R51: check (despite it's overall failure as a product)
      Archon TypeB: definite check!
      Taurus Curve and Spectrum: check.....
      Get INNOVATIVE gun makers. We want reliability, yes. But people also like character. If we didn't, all of our cars would look like those boxy little European putt-putts.

    • @drummingdog5706
      @drummingdog5706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Maybe i dont get out enough, but i think the px4 looks like it means business. I sure like it

    • @lreed31
      @lreed31 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I own a Px4 sc and love it, I think its good looking firearm and so is the P07.. infact I like the P07 so much I bought 2.

    • @lovemym16
      @lovemym16 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually love its looks. However it's ergonomics are atrocious. The slide mounted decocker is really what pushed me over the not liking it edge. I shoot my freinds PX4 from time to time and I can just never like it. Works fine, just not for everyone.

  • @elijahbrooks8589
    @elijahbrooks8589 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My daughter is getting ready for college and wants to take my M&P. So it’s time for a new semiautomatic.

    • @kenhoward3512
      @kenhoward3512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "My daughter is getting ready for college and..." I recall, in Denver many years ago, a pawn shop advertised a "Back to School Sale" for guns. The ad didn't go over very well (the shop quickly claimed it was "a mistake").

  • @Brianbo4
    @Brianbo4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to see a comparison with one of these and the HK P2000. I feel like that is another good polymer overlooked DA/SA ccw. I'll admit, needs a gray guns short reset kit and maybe a lighter hammer spring to make the trigger desireable.

  • @SB-mw1bg
    @SB-mw1bg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks J.........you should do more of these comparisons,appreciate your take. Thank you!

  • @jesusthug
    @jesusthug 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great, fair and honest review! One thing I’d add that’s just my opinion on why I think the P07 has a phenomenal SA trigger. I don’t want a wall in my pull, especially if I have to defend myself in a gunfight. The 07 is like a “caddy” as they used to say. It’s smooth and you don’t notice it. Once my finger goes inside the guard it’s time to pull. A wall complicates accuracy on a pull. But it’s become the way to describe the break of the trigger pull itself. With that being said, having a noticeable reset is a good thing if you have a little to much over travel. And it’s hard to have one without the other. So to everyone who buys a SD pistol, practice as much as possible. As someone who is in love with Baretta’s you can never go wrong with one. But to me the storm is ugly. The 07 with $160 of Cajun is an insane pistol. Right at $600 ish total. The grittiness of the DA on the P07 is from the coated frame side of the trigger bar. It’s rubbing against the non coated trigger spring that’s pressing the porous poly frame. Polish the bar and it’s golden. Or shoot a lot! Lol. Sometimes the frame needs to be smoothed but usually that takes care of it.

  • @archiered
    @archiered 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you should probably carry the gun you are most comfortable with, money shouldn't matter. I carry a p07 or my j frame. Love them both!

  • @DirkaDirka-n9j
    @DirkaDirka-n9j 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the magazine rack!

  • @mgsharnhorst
    @mgsharnhorst 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    PX4 is $539.99 at Sportsman's Warehouse (regular price) P07 is $479.99 (regular price) $60 difference.
    I have the full size PX4, I really like it.
    Good video

  • @bdm1000
    @bdm1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video. Your audio track was a little off (not synced). I am of the same opinion as you, but I'm not sure how I'd feel if we were comparing a Beretta PX4 Storm compact with a CZ P-01 Compact.

  • @matthiasice
    @matthiasice 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Limiting the cost of your carry gun because it might get confiscated is such a niche worry. The gun itself is the last thing I'd be thinking about after a self defense shooting.

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yep--you can always buy another....LOL....

  • @rotadymaify
    @rotadymaify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No comparison between these two guns. The Langdon Beretta has an amazing trigger. The CZ trigger isn’t very good. For me, the Beretta is much easier to conceal. The Beretta +2 mag base plates only extends 1/2 inch past the grip and gives you 17 rounds. My LTT beretta DA trigger is 7 lbs. and SA is only 3.5 lbs.

  • @kimmorrison9169
    @kimmorrison9169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get the PO7 and be happy. If you want a striker fired pistol get the newer CZ compact version. This is 2021 and the design is a bit dated now but it just works like hell. Triggers are fine out of the box and with a very cheap spring kit available from various suppliers an already good trigger gets even better. Between the looks and the price of this Beretta I would just say no! Though it would be hard to walk away from their stellar 92 model (just not for a carry gun).

  • @k31scout39
    @k31scout39 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review. I’d go with the one that gives the best groups and best price. Very subjective but the P07 looks better to me. Cost of magazines would have been a nice addition to you’re good review.

    • @jhelmsing
      @jhelmsing  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The low price point of the P-07 and how close it is to the $800 Beretta is very compelling. I'm debating whether I should send this off to get a cajunized and do a rematch 🤔

    • @k31scout39
      @k31scout39 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For a self defense pistol I myself would not. For a target gun I might.

    • @garywixson8852
      @garywixson8852 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      J Helmsing The cajunized guns & parts get very good reviews. I am contemplating a CZ P09, or a CZ P07 for my next center fire pistol.
      If I get one of the above models I won’t hesitate to put the extra approximately $200.00 dollars in it for Cajun Gun Works parts, from the reviews I’ve read it’s well worth it.

  • @RaulRivera-u3e
    @RaulRivera-u3e 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked this comparison very much. I am looking for a new CCW and was curious if you could do a comparison between the Beretta PX4 Storm Compact Carry 2 and the CZ-75 Compact. I currently have a Sig Sauer P 365x Macro ... how would you compare all 3?

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hat Sig is a cheap piece of crap......the other two are far better

  • @fredgarvin4482
    @fredgarvin4482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my two favorite pistols by far

  • @whistlingrock3157
    @whistlingrock3157 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my px4 and I put a laser on and it’s a point and shoot for a cc it’s about immediate dispersal of freedom seeds not long range. For me that is the perfect size for quick removal and on target when seconds count IMHO.

  • @allenrichards9949
    @allenrichards9949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a P07 for about $420 after taxes. I reload as well and I ended up having to set the bullet OAL 1.09 to get my rounds to chamber. Never shot the PX4 but would love to get my hands on 1.

  • @RU2AIM
    @RU2AIM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Add the Hogue grip sleeve to the Storm! I did and it made all the difference.

  • @scooter5940
    @scooter5940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review, and while I do think the Beretta is priced too high - I have to say I don't understand your rationale for an arbitrary $600 price limit on a carry gun. First, the odds of being in a shooting are extremely low. But if I get in one, I want the best firearm - for me - that I can find. That means one that I have confidence in, and practice with. Whether that costs $400 or $1,200 - what is your life worth?

  • @popsmccartney435
    @popsmccartney435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job,love the PX4

  • @doranjaffas7351
    @doranjaffas7351 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do the comparison of the stock PX4 Storm Compact.

  • @tobberfutooagain2628
    @tobberfutooagain2628 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    P07. Hands down. Boom!

  • @patrickgerwitz2908
    @patrickgerwitz2908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do a review in the FNH FX-9?

  • @nittanyburg20
    @nittanyburg20 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the large beaver tail on the CZ ever get annoying while carrying appendix?

  • @judoki999
    @judoki999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I CCW a Wilson combat. It’s totally reliable and when my life is on the line I want the best I can afford. Let them take it for evidence I have my life.

  • @mmalave71
    @mmalave71 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Agree that we need to unite against these anti-gun people. Be active and urge people that you know to support our constitutional rights. They are in danger.

  • @jamesfranco7090
    @jamesfranco7090 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please tell me what type of rear sight you have on your p-07!

    • @jhelmsing
      @jhelmsing  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are night fusion sights

  • @spadetrump
    @spadetrump 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i happened to jump right into the part where your bullets get stuck. I have a CZ Rammi. Man do I have to be careful. for the oregon trail cast lead 1.24. I can seat out to 1.2" on a Beretta but have to kick it down to 1.050 on the Rammi. lol.

  • @tomparker8932
    @tomparker8932 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    CZ baby all the way! P-07 40 cal. The Storm is novel but I think even the Stoeger Cougar beat it out because of the rotating Barrel really keeps a muzzle flip down, right?

  • @alexl7996
    @alexl7996 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jay, where to buy Beretta PX4 Storm Compact Carry at nowadays?!

  • @jenHry-ng3pw
    @jenHry-ng3pw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think p07 is more comparable to regular px4 rather than the cc version. Reliability of the Barrett is great until some mess gets into it. Then the rotating barrel is a liability.

    • @scotdixon777
      @scotdixon777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you have experience with a PX4 barrel malfunctioning due to debris? Ernest Langdon has gone tens of thousands of rounds with very little cleaning with some of his, with no issues. As a PX4 owner, I'm just curious if this is something I need to be looking out for. Having said that, I am not fighting the Taliban in the hills, so my holstered CC weapon stays pretty clean.

  • @berettaxd7566
    @berettaxd7566 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    PX4 would look amazing without the rail. It's actually a very slim handgun.

  • @kashyyyk
    @kashyyyk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @2:55... What is the silver pin called that’s attached to the extractor; just above the decocker? I’ve noticed that my brand new P-07 also has one, but I’ve seen videos and images of P-07s that don’t seem to. It’s also not in the diagram of the manual that came with my weapon. If anyone knows what it is, is it OK for it to be protruding slightly (I’ve recently noticed mine is) or should it be flush?

    • @jhelmsing
      @jhelmsing  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's one of the newer additions on the P-guns. It's a loaded chamber indicator. It protrudes when the chamber is loaded.

    • @kashyyyk
      @kashyyyk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. The diagram in my manual does use an older CZ P-07 image; spring plug with the lanyard loop. I’ve never actually noticed the indicator before last night, and I didn’t see that it wasn’t protruding while unloaded. Thank you again.

  • @mistershawnyoung
    @mistershawnyoung 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Px4 is my edc

  • @ReplicasyArmas
    @ReplicasyArmas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    P07 can carry 17+1

  • @jaycee30865
    @jaycee30865 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A minute and 45 seconds dedicated to encouraging people to not argue in the comments? Is everybody a peabrain now? Geez.

  • @miketaylorID1
    @miketaylorID1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welp, looks like I’m really late to the party! But now that CCW is a possibility for the average Joe in NJ imma livin like its 2016. Got a bit of catching up to do. Researching carry options. Never really paid much attention to compact or smaller platforms. -All the recoil with none of the fun- Now I’m kicking tires on everything G19 size and smaller. P07 SA/DA is the draw for me- I know its bad policy to carry on an empty chamber but being completely honest with myself that might be something I would need to train past. Figured a decocker and that long first pull might build some confidence then move on to a striker platform Or might just find its good enuf. The Beretta APX Centurion would be my choice over the storm - vs. P07 and the M&P Compact. would think G19 or G48 should be on the list, I want to shoot them well, but the grip angle is not simpatico with my presentation. Always draw high. I know Thats fixable with training reps, but why bother? I’ll stick with what comes natural in that high-stress, cortisol drenched, hope it never happens, confrontation! ANywaays - now that I found ya I’ll probably stick around and check out what’s doin’. Plus - Your prologue about keeping the comments friendly and polite resonated greatly with me. Well-done. I’m with you 100%. I never understood the need for such vitriol- especially among like-minded people who already catch enough grief from gun grabbers, the media and Hollywood types who attack us like its their job. Gun people are some of the nicest,polite friendly folk you could ever meet, just not from behind a keyboard!! Makes no sense whatsoever!! sorry - bit longwinded. I’ll keep it brief from here on…. cheers

  • @Mr.Spectaculous
    @Mr.Spectaculous 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That is not a fair comparison J. You have a factory tuned Beretta against a stock PO7. Plus because it cost more you have more of an emotional attachment to it because of the price disparity. You also did not mention the ergos on the PO7 can be changed with the backstrap change capability. The ergo on the PX needed help in the form of grip tape. The PO7 also shares mags with other models in the line up.

    • @jhelmsing
      @jhelmsing  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It wasn't really supposed to be a fair comparison. This is the comparison people asked for which is why I did it. I understand that a stock PX4 versus a stock p07 would be on more equal ground, and perhaps a cajunized p07 vs this gun would have been a different story.

    • @silverstacker8282
      @silverstacker8282 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. Spectaculous factory tuned??? All it has is a “D” hammer spring installed. Unless he’s ordered one from Langdon/Robar directly. Those have a trigger job done to them.

    • @silverstacker8282
      @silverstacker8282 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I stand corrected... it has the trigger pack installed too. But none the less, that’s a good value. How much does the Cajun trigger cost? Like $300-$400?

  • @xithappens
    @xithappens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I must be the only Italian traitor in the coments that likes the P07 way better than the Beretta. It's not even close and the PX4 is overprized by a lot.

  • @thedumbguncollector5546
    @thedumbguncollector5546 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let me tell you if you end up in a shooting where your pistol is seized. Your last concern is going to be about that pistol.

  • @Mrsaylessnotmore
    @Mrsaylessnotmore 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im new to da/sa my first was a rex 01 compact. Been looking for my next, almost bought a shadow but came to the same conclusion you did. If I pay that much im gonna treat it like a teddy bear and not a weapon. Thinking about the magnum research desert eagle iii vs the p07. Any familiarity with the eagle vs the 07?

  • @gutblaster187
    @gutblaster187 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The PX4 is nearly the perfect DA/SA carry gun. Beretta just needs to do a slight refresh like they did with the 92.

    • @drjdmtuning4982
      @drjdmtuning4982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They did the px4 carry and compact carry. However if they made the entire lineup with their carry upgrades and slide precut for red dot it would be perfect ❤

    • @IvanRiveraStagea
      @IvanRiveraStagea ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree. They should make a PX4 Performance model with the competition trigger group, steel guide rod, steel trigger, adjustable fiber optic sights and a more aggressive texture.

    • @gutblaster187
      @gutblaster187 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IvanRiveraStagea That would be nice👍 Of all European gun companies, they seem perhaps the most indifferent to the US civilian market.

    • @IvanRiveraStagea
      @IvanRiveraStagea ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gutblaster187 They are the same over here in Asia (probably more so given how small the firearm market is). CZ and Glock dominate the handgun market over here. I have to jump through hoops to find upgrade parts and accessories for my Berettas.

    • @shmoopsIII
      @shmoopsIII 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@IvanRiveraStageathey seem pretty content to let Langdon tactical churn those out.

  • @105Flintrock
    @105Flintrock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I have the PX4 Storm Compact Carry with the Langdon Tactical trigger job, which is essentially just changing the D weight mainspring (16 pounds) for a lighter spring. The trigger pull in both double and single action are dropped by over a pound by that two minute spring swap.
    The Compact Carry is plenty accurate. The short sight radius may hurt a little in slow fire, longer range shooting, but at defensive ranges within 25 yards it's not an issue. My times and accuracy have actually improved since I made the switch from a Glock 19 to the Beretta as my typical everyday compact carry gun.

    • @Actuary1776
      @Actuary1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The LTT trigger job is not simply a matter of changing the hammer spring.

    • @raymondmaglaris4149
      @raymondmaglaris4149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      25 yards is maybe long for a defensive scenerio i think

    • @scotdixon777
      @scotdixon777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@raymondmaglaris4149he said within.

  • @nonjaninja4904
    @nonjaninja4904 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The P07 is a great gun. I've dunked mine in snow and mud and it still ran fine. That was with cheap steel Wolf ammo too.

  • @frankbutta9344
    @frankbutta9344 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I have two PX4 CC pistols. They are a great size, accurate, and can have an even better trigger by simply installing a Wilson Combat 12# hammer spring. I’ve did, and have had 100% reliability with a range of ammo. I’m getting 6.5lbs DA, and 3.75lb SA readings on digital Lyman gauge. Ernest Langdon is using a modified WC spring, that comes in under more around 11# on his trigger jobs. Thanks for sharing!

    • @saleemsuliman3062
      @saleemsuliman3062 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you should own two different pistol instead of owning two similar pistol that why you can understand which one is more effeciant.

    • @danielrodriguez5463
      @danielrodriguez5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And now LTT has a new trigger bar that improves travel and reset. Making the px4 the best polymer trigger in the market !!!

  • @ssn711
    @ssn711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Interesting review. I’ve used both pistols & have found the Beretta to be the higher performer for me. Good points on the post incident feedback as many don’t realize they will lose their pistols afterwards...

  • @silski
    @silski 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The CZs have been so cheap lately. I picked up a P-09 for $365 brand new. I could hardly believe it.

    • @silski
      @silski 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      With CGW parts you could have a nice CZ for under $550 easy.

    • @notrapmusic9883
      @notrapmusic9883 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep I got one for 330 man

    • @notrapmusic9883
      @notrapmusic9883 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gonna get two more soon hopefully

    • @57HEMIviken
      @57HEMIviken 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Picked up an urban gray p07 recently for $300 best purchase ever

    • @57HEMIviken
      @57HEMIviken 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @James Javanovich armslist

  • @tvormwald
    @tvormwald 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I own a PX4 Storm in 9mm. Awesome handgun.

    • @JacksonWalter735
      @JacksonWalter735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Has anyone ever told you that you look like you would be related to Teddy Roosevelt?

    • @bridges5659
      @bridges5659 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tom V-Bitch .🤣😂🤣😂

  • @bridges5659
    @bridges5659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I just love the Beretta px4 storm. Safety features are evident . Made of stronger material. Beretta is known for quality. This gun is nicknamed ' Pitbull ' .Thank you for a very informative presentation.👍👍👍

    • @GayPrideHD
      @GayPrideHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn’t know that it was nicknamed that, is that just for the compact or the full size as well?

    • @robertstotesbury8005
      @robertstotesbury8005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will never sell mine!

    • @bridges5659
      @bridges5659 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GayPrideHD full size and it is a stocky gun therefore it was named Pitbul.

    • @bridges5659
      @bridges5659 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertstotesbury8005 And please sell your arse. 🤣

    • @berettaxd7566
      @berettaxd7566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you use photo editor and edit out rail, just to get an idea, it's actually a pretty slim handgun with low bore axis. The rail makes it look fat.

  • @tashab497
    @tashab497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    P07 for me

    • @vzhojh3845
      @vzhojh3845 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beautiful Tasha.....and you for me!

    • @jtzx32024
      @jtzx32024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not creepy at all...

  • @doranjaffas7351
    @doranjaffas7351 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I bought the PX4 Compact after too many youtube videos that had nothing bad to say about the gun.
    I've had it for just over a week with 50 rds thru it and NO BUYERS REMORSE. I did redo the sights with sight paint ( florescent orange in front, florescent green on the rear ) and added grippon grip textures. Would like to have stippling professionally done but these make a nice difference in the feel.
    I am shooting this gun at 30 yards and am very pleased with its and my accuracy.
    This one is a keeper. It replaced my 1911.
    As for the standard compact such as mine..no issues with any of the standard parts.

  • @erazimoth
    @erazimoth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have shot many carry sized guns like the G19, the P229, the CZ P01, and the PX4 CC, and for me personally I have shot the PX4 better than any of them. Ergos are great, trigger is great, sights are great (defensive shooting). It has been my favorite carry gun just ahead of the smaller G26 and the P224 ( both of which I also love).

  • @gregstanfill2825
    @gregstanfill2825 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nice review! I just purchased the PX4 Compact Carry and am exited to shoot it. I have owned a standard sized PX4 in .40 for a lot of years which has been supremely reliable but the total package of this LTT inspired 9mm was just to much to pass on, regardless of price. As far as CZ, I do not own a P07 but i have had a P10C since they were first introduced and one cannot argue that they make a fantastic product; interestingly, I will say that the stippling on the the P10C is also very aggressive and probably my only “negative” critique of the pistol from an IWB carry perspective. At any rate, I am stoked about the possibilities of the Compact Carry as an EDC which would replace my current G23. I will try to get back and update after a few weeks. Stay safe!

  • @MrLuigji
    @MrLuigji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’ve owned the Beretta PX 4 storm full-size 9 mm for about eight years put over 3000 rounds in it, not one issue ...unbelievable smooth, very low recoil, extremely accurate and great feel in hand. I think I’m gonna have to get this one as well , smaller easier to carry concealed !

  • @WolfanndRose
    @WolfanndRose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    PX4 here is compact 3.25” barrel version, full version is 4”. The P-07 is 3.75” barrel. This is also something to consider for accuracy comparisons and comfort

  • @alfonsorj70
    @alfonsorj70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Beretta Px4 Storm Rules and so does the CZ P-07. Both are superb firearms

  • @pdog305301
    @pdog305301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    PX4 series is so underrated partly because Beretta is terrible at marketing their product. That being said you can get great deals on them. I got my PX4 inox 9mm full size on Black Friday for $470 so i''m pretty happy with that. I was in the market for a compact pistol for CCW and was heavily leaning towards a Glock 19,CZ P-07 or CZ P10-C. The PX4 shoots so flat in rapid fire and the trigger is so smooth. The DA is heavy and long (not a bad thing) and the SA is crisp. Best thing is that it can be improved as well as the decocker, guide rod, sights, etc. I agree the PX4 is ugly but once you shoot it you learn to love it. Those who own them know what I'm talking about. Full size model holds 17+1 because more is better (flush).
    I upgraded mine with the competition trigger group from Beretta, 11 lb hammer spring, steel guide rod, Ameriglo sights, a few 20 round magazines and a quality holster. The trigger and the action are super smooth now.

    • @alexglenn2122
      @alexglenn2122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm a pretty big Beretta fan, and own 2 guns from them. Great guns, horrible marketing; is how I always refer to them.

  • @geo5192
    @geo5192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for the review, but seriously if you are going to buy a pistol for concealed carry that your family and your life may very well depend on, how can anyone raise a concern about the police confiscating a $800 weapon as evidence, vs a cheaper $600 gun? In my opinion that has to be the strangest reason I have ever heard for determining what handgun you will purchase to protect your family and your own life.
    The only issue for me is which weapon will work best for me to achieve that goal, period.

    • @vforveracity7487
      @vforveracity7487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly what I was thinking. Enjoying the review and then he drops that head scratcher. Ya, be pound foolish on plinking and range guns but if you're looking to save money in your firearm budget, do it on the one gun you might actually use for its intended purpose - saving your life.

  • @drummingdog5706
    @drummingdog5706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good vidio, i enjoyed your presentation. I own a px4 compact. I have found it to be flawless after many rounds. I shoot both rt and lft handed and it handles great. Very well designed. Thanks

  • @range-randy8148
    @range-randy8148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the CZ P-07 is just a fantastic gun for the price. Accurate, durable, good trigger, built well, and very good ergonomics. One of my favorite handguns to carry or take to the range.

    • @johnnydanger1305
      @johnnydanger1305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Range Randy well good for you randy. Why don’t you give us your pocket dump edc while you’re at it.

  • @KeanonGilliamSlang369
    @KeanonGilliamSlang369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    PX4 is a hidden gem, shot my friends and it shot great. Regarding the P-07 (Duty), Nutnfancy and some others stated the earlier ones had issues but it seems to have changed for the better.

  • @jovanjohn8294
    @jovanjohn8294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great vid man. I’m making the switch to the da/sa persuasion. This was really helpful.

  • @MDpolo
    @MDpolo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Jay. Really enjoy these comparisons. Thank you for doing them. I own both of these pistols and as much as I like the Beretta, I shoot the CZ P07 better. Happy New Year!

  • @dirkzhang3582
    @dirkzhang3582 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watching this 4 years later as I was in the same place picking between the two, got P07 eventually, just couldn’t justify the price difference. Don’t get me wrong I could afford both with no problem but I don’t think PX4 Storm is a good deal at that price point. P07 on the other hand, is a steal to me.

  • @watwatdelta6485
    @watwatdelta6485 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Cz po7gen2 is the best in the market..

  • @SRKanai1
    @SRKanai1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with most of what is said here except, the 800 dollar price tag. You can get the px4 all day long for 630 in the USA. Just sayin.

  • @efm2169
    @efm2169 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got a px4 storm when they first came out loved it but my wife at the time loved it more so I let her keep it. Recently bought a po7 and it’s a fantastic gun. I’m a da/sa type of guy. Im going to have to get another px4 storm in the future but the Landon tactical this time.

  • @MrPir84free
    @MrPir84free 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first pistol I bought was a PX4 Storm ( full sized ) .. Still have it.. The last pistol that I bought is a CZ P07 Suppressor Ready.. So, an interesting comparison..

  • @kenhoward3512
    @kenhoward3512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is now October, 2021 - thanks for all your honest, thorough reviews, J. He gave up on this useful, interesting channel because of all the undeserved negativity about his simply being an LEO.

  • @majorpayne5289
    @majorpayne5289 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    👍Good review👍Thx. Good info. Much appreciation. The PX4 SubComp. (40) is my next purchase. Hoping Beretta will address the slipperiness on grip. If not, I’ll get my skateboard tape back out-
    Having said that....”CZ gritty”????
    I’ve had great luck w/CZ trigger. I really like the trigger double bar design. (Smith & Wesson should take note w/ their M&P Shield)
    My 75 & 2075 RAMI. Yes, that “Pin” is high maintenance.... CZ says 500 to 600 round cycles. Also, guide rod springs @ same replacement intervals. Not a fan of that at all but I stay w/ the manufactures recommendations to keep that “snappiness” -
    Thx again.
    Thx👍🇺🇸🔫

  • @peterk6982
    @peterk6982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awsome I just order my cz p07 , thnaks

  • @WeightsNGunz
    @WeightsNGunz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You get what you pay for! PX4 is a much better gun all the way around and that not saying the P07 is a bad gun.

  • @groovekingmuzz2699
    @groovekingmuzz2699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't care how ugly people say a gun is!!Love my PX4 Storm..Mick Jagger is ugly but that guy has scored more women than everyone on this page combined...And i am looking @ CZ lately..It won't be long and i will get something new...Great Post my friend..keep em going...

  • @SLAMTRON
    @SLAMTRON 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:51 I'll just heat up a fine cheese grater with a torch and push it up against the polymer 😁

  • @Sewermonkey69
    @Sewermonkey69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do like my po7 and have always wanted a px4 and I like the compact carry option. I may have to look into it.

  • @stevestrawmatt4738
    @stevestrawmatt4738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Late comment, great vid. I have owned both, didn't like the P07, good gun, just didn't fit my hand right, I EDC a px4 compact carry. Love it, have over 4000 rounds through it and I have not had one failure today. Steel, aluminum, cheap brass, all runs. For me it was worth the extra money

  • @sql3051
    @sql3051 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank You Glad somebody compared these two firearms. I own the P07 and I'm looking at the PX4 to purchase. Value your opinion since you are a straight shooter.

    • @FactsDominate
      @FactsDominate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I own the PX4 Compact and really enjoy it and now I am looking for a P07.

    • @sql3051
      @sql3051 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've had the P-07 for a year now. Have put 1000's of rounds through it and not one misfire or failure to feed. Looking forward to buying the new CZ P-10-s that just was displayed at Shot Show 2019.

  • @djlu3011
    @djlu3011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love my P07. Probably my favorite gun.

  • @MrRensan404
    @MrRensan404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own a Px4 Storm full size. It’s accuracy, reliability, durability, technology, and safety features are way up there. Added bonus, it has the Italian flare in design that makes it distinctively look different and attractive like a Ferrari or Lamborghini.

  • @panama-canada
    @panama-canada 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You get what you pay for

  • @loganturner3895
    @loganturner3895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own both...no problems with either.

  • @javedqaisrani4604
    @javedqaisrani4604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PX4 storm is the best hand gun

  • @bigbossoooo
    @bigbossoooo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice guns I like the p07 more even if I never shot that one before.

  • @alstermain2013
    @alstermain2013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One point to make: a gun with which I shot a baboon was taken from me( YES!) but was returned to me several months after the trial.

  • @davegass1650
    @davegass1650 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job 👍 . Two very nice guns . I have always wanted to but never shot the full-size PX4 . I posted a few short videos of my new dream purchase . The Sig Sauer p226 Legion Sao 9mm . What a great shooting gun .