CYCLING YOUR AQUARIUM AND WHEN TO ADD PLANTS?
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Great information. The first tank is really the only one where this is a big deal. If you have an established tank just move over some of the filter media from one tank to the other or run the filter for the new tank on an old and switch it out when you're ready. Establishing a healthy tank is when you really need to invest in the work but after that healthy tanks are a self contained ecosystem. The big thing to remember is a tank is "new" for several weeks and maybe months after it's started. Lot of people miss this point and big fluxes in water quality will and do happen with tanks that have new plants new fish or new filters.
I first let the algae grow, then add a snail, then other things. I didn't know about the nitrogen cycle until now. Thanks for this great video!
You have been most helpful with advice. Much appreciated from Australia.
One of my personal favorite methods (other than using already filtered media) is to add bio bacteria and ammonia. You add a ton of bio bacteria and then add a bit of ammonia every two days and test the water the next day. You continue this until all the ammonia is converted to nitrates by the next day. Then you slowly add fish. My favorite bio bacteria is dr Tim’s
I'm honestly not sure if its the best or not but its the only one I've ever used. Now I just take filter media from my canister filter wait about a day and slowly add fish. i also add Stability when seting up a new tank.
Im brand new at tanks. I jiat bought my 20g today. Going to be a female betta tank. Where do I get the products you have mentioned. And any advice? Looking to make it a planted
@@brennanvoss when do you water change
I use a combination method.
1. I dose Tetra Safe Start Plus, or whatever brand of liquid bacteria I have on-hand. I repeat the dose once weekly for a month.
2. I add some live plants.
3. I seed with rocks, decor, or a used filter cartridge.
4. I add 1 to 2 fish per week until I achieve desired stock level.
5. I use prime for new tanks. I use stress coat for maintenance.
This method works well for me.
Dale Bailey seems like yer artificially cycling then going ahead and doing a live cycle all over again.
i use api quickstart
The bacteria dies without a food source so your basically wasting a month of time dosing bacteria just for it to starve lmao
This is the method I'm trying. It's what a master aquascaper recommended I do. We'll see how it goes. Pretty sure there are things in the aquasoil for the bacteria to feed off of and start to colonize.
I use organic soil and plants. The matter in the soil starts to break down and I was super pleased to find the cycle had started without me really doing anything at all.
Thank you. You answered the question I had before I even asked. I was wondering if garden soil or potting soil would provide the ammonia for the nitrogen cycle. Have you ever had any experience with German Blue Rams in this kind of setup? If so, would their digging a nest disturb the cap and cause a spike that would kill them or would it cause the dirt to float to the surface?
Plants can actually use any nitrogen source, including ammonia and nitrite. So if planted heavy enough, you could start to slowly add fish, and as the plants begin to grow, they will take in ammonia, nitrite, or nitrates. Even algae growing on items or glass will take in any nitrogen source.
Salifert is a highly highly accurate testing kit company, it's in the pricey side but they work well for kh ph ammonia nitrates and so on and so forth.
Just for those hardcore aquartis that whine about api kits not being accurate. ;)
I put together my first planted aquarium less than 2 months ago. I added plants first, and thought Id let them acclimate for a week with no other life. Then I added a couple of Nerites.....another plant shipment came (all beginner, forgiving plants) and in those plants, I basically inherited an ecosystem worth of organisms, snails, worms (including planaria) etc.....they started hunting snails....as the deaths slowly started to rise, the plants started displaying marked growth on a daily basis. Started using planaria traps, and added fish at the beginning of the third week. Snail deaths ceased and the plants went crazy in growth. Not once did I have an ammonia or nitrite reading. A week ago I got my first nitrate reading and its held steady at 5 PPM.
This is how I will approach my next project.....hopefully no planaria next time, thankfully I didnt get a complete infestation.
Thank you for sharing this is helpful as I start with setting up my new tank, I've had it running for a week and just added in some live plants today
I was gonna say, what about used media! But you threw that in, nice.
This is possibly the best video which explains the process and I’ve watched many, thank you for this!!
I agree.
By cycle in a bottle and get it done in 5 minutes. Also you can plant at anytime. Actually it’s best to plant as soon as you set up.
Great info! I wanted to ask what kind of light you're using on those cubes? Thanks for the video, keep up the good work!
Yeah i was thinking this!!
Want to know about your lights the little round ones and where to got to get them .
Just got done planting, getting my co2 tank tomorrow, will leave it for about 4 weeks, do a water change every 10 days for like 25%. I'll get the water tested after those 4 weeks. If it's OK I'll get fish. Sounds good?
So what about root tabs and other fertilizers? Do we add those in with the plants or do we wait until after the cycle?
How about using a cycle starting solution, like SafeStart + concentrated? It does have starter bacteria.
Can you use fertiliser straight away in a planted aquarium being cycled? Thanks
Can I add c02 before cycling the tank? Or should this be after?
Really good informative video. I’m thinking of setting up a 6 gal rimless similar to yours. Your list of equipment below seems to be referring to another setup though. Just curious about what you used on this tank.
What kind of lights do you have on those aquariums right behind you?
When you start with plants, how often do you do water changes during the cycling process?
My Dennerle Scapers Tank, 10g. UNS Controsoil, ADA Advanced Power Sand S bade layer.
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Crypt wenditi brown and green mid and back
Bucephalandra (5 types), Christmas moss, Bacopa Monnieri
What brand of gooseneck lights are those?? Elive?
So, is just aqua soil (Fluval Stratum) & plants enough to cycle a tank?
I've left a heavily planted tank going for a month (wanted plants to establish). Crypts etc have melted off emersed growth.
Used the API testing kit, which said parameters were great.
But, is this because there was never any ammonia/nitrite/nitrate to get rid of in the 1st place?
My LFS owner pretty much laughed in my face, said I had a dead tank & suggested some Tetras & Gourami to _start_ the cycle :/
Was he wrong? Was only going to add fish gradually anyway. So, no big deal to me.
Interested in people's thoughts on this.
I know this video is old but seriously, thank you. Im cycling my tank for the very first time and this answered some questions I had in mind. I’ll probably update how it’s going, added an anubias plant and some fish food in a fishless tank today!
So.. if I set up my tank with plants to fishless cycle do I still add ammonia? Also, I know that when ammonia and nitrite need to be 0 and nitrate 5-10 so that the cycle is finished, but do I add the fish immediately or wait?
I have added food have plants used media kickstart and can't get my anomia levels over 0.25 have the master test kit have tested daily been going for a week now and no nitrates or nitrites, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
What's the name of the lights on your tanks?
Hi, I was curious on what type of light you use on your tanks?
Me too. Was checking comments to see if I could find the answer.
If doing the 'raw fish or shrimp' method, do you continually add more? Or just leave it there until your numbers read perfect?
Me too i want to know!
Most say to get your ammonia up to 2ppm and keep feeding to maintain that level until it reads zero, then you know you have enough nitrites.
What type if light is that on the aquarium to your right and where do i buy it
Asta 20 light
That's awesome
Would there be nutrient deficiencies for the plants during cycling if it's just plants added at first? I have amazon swords turning yellow doing the last method.
your sword is transitioning to being underwater, it will yellow, leafs will go clear and rot meanwhile new leafs will grow in the center which are underwater leafs.
@Rachel West i added carpet plants requiring advanced care level (tropica red logo). Is it normal to completely loose the carpet to algae during the cycling phase? More importantly is it wiser to add carpet plants after the cycling phase?
I went to an aquarium store yesterday and was kind of confused because he told me to wait to have my tank cycled and established to start adding in plants. I didn't understand this because i hadn't heard anyone else mention it on many videos i saw, however, reading this comment leads me to believe that maybe for some advanced plants they need to be in an established tank. I did tell him i wanted beginner easy to grow plants but he literally wouldn't let me buy anything pretty much and said to bring in my water after a week of cycling.
Do I need to treat the plants with anything before they are added to my goldfish tank?
a dip is a good idea since you might be adding unwanted pests into your aquarium. I learnt that lesson the hard way. Luckily I didn't have fish in there and was able to treat the tank.
Best plants to start with?
I wanted to do trunk you make sound easy but I have no clue what you said
sbreef lights... why you have kessel?
Is that the Asta 20 light?
yeah check out his last video
Great video. Quick question. At 1:17 you said the ammonia is converted to nitrites by bacteria in the filter. Now is this bacteria just present in all filters or does it have to be added? Thank you
You have to wait a few weeks for the beneficial bacteria to develop in filter media, substrate etc
@@fartrellcluggins gotcha thanks. I've learned a lot since I first posted that comment haha.
Hey, can you help me please? I started cycling my tank about a week ago with betta food and a little piece of frozen fish and the water is turning cloudy and also green, is this normal ? My tank is a 10.5 gallon tank and Im using a waterfall filter with fiber and ceramic earings. (Sorry for the english, It is not my first language)
For my new tank. I only cycled my tank for 3 days. All i did was fishless cycle and pour some fish food for ammonia and bacteria to build up. I used cannister filter, wool filter pourus rings. Its been a 2weeks now and my water is still crystal clear with 10 guppy fish 1 betta.
I need help to get rid of brown algae
I know it's an old video, but I have a question regarding fishless cycles. I added pure ammonia at 4ppm in a fishless tank with plants in it. My ammonia is now at 8ppm. I havent done water changes but I have topped it off. Numbers are staying the same. To water change during cycle or not to water change? Using API freshwater master test kit. Snails came in on plants and are doing fine. I honestly didnt expect them to survive the cycle.
@@h2oplants630 yeah. Not planning on adding any fish for a while. I have been testing weekly, it's been running 3 weeks, planted for 2 weeks. Thanks, I was torn concerning water change during the cycle. I figure I've got about 3 weeks left.
U suppose add bacteria after ammonia. Bacteria need to eat the ammonia. Your not suppose to water change that screw up the cycle and slow down the bacteria colonies
@tamingguppies1247 I no longer have the tank but I added SeaChem's Seed starter bacteria to it. I did eventually get it all cycled and it was a really great tank but then I had a baby and life got busy so I re-homed the fish and took the tank down.
tysm I didn't even know about the third method
I did everything wrong when I started my aquarium and it took me almost 2 months. I started out with my betta in his 10 gallon tank and he got sick. I moved him to a 1-1/2 gallon temporary tank and changed his water every day to every other day because 1-1/2 gallons is just not big enough, but it made it easier to treat him for the bacterial infection he got from the bigger tank that I was trying to cycle. API told me to use ammolock. Big mistake! They told me to put it in every other day, even bigger mistake.
They also had me put in quick start, that didn't help either. When I started adding nitrifying bacteria, changes started happening and finally the nitrites started to climb. It only took about a week to 1-1/2 weeks after I put the nitrifying bacteria in.
My tank finally cycled last Saturday, but I tested the water again Sunday to be safe and then I worked on moving my betta into his 10 gallon tank most of Sunday afternoon. He is very happy now. He is king of the tank and he is even tolerating the snails now.
How do you figure out how much Prime to put in a 10 gallon tank? It gives the amount for a much larger tank on the bottle.
The bottle says that one capful = 5ml, which is for 50 gallons. So, 1ml = 10 gallons. It says each line in the cap is approximately 1ml.
So if I am adding water from a 1 gallon water jug, how much do I put in the 1 gallon of water before I put it in the fish tank?
Lisa Gerace 1 divided by 10 = that. But it would just be easier to do the 1ml drop directly to the first bucket of water. That's what I do. If you're using seachem prime you can add it directly to the tank first too. If you're using other dechlorinators I would read instructions first.
My small bottle of prime says 2 drops per gallon. I don’t buy the larger bottle that doesn’t have the dropper lid.
No matter how many videos I’ve looked up I still can’t find a direct answer. 😭 can I fully set up my planted tank(both submerged and floating) and still cycle my tank with added ammonia or fish food, while still adding fertilizer for my plant and test my waters?
I like the cycled media method. Also, just as a thought. Maybe consult your local fish store if your just starting out. They are always doing water changes, and might be willing to give you a few gallons of water they would otherwise be dumping to help you jump start your cycling process. Personally haven't done this, simply thought about it as I watched the video. You could also double down and get the plants you are looking for at the same time, set up in tank with their water and possibly be ready in a as early as a week or two!
If you got water from a fish store wouldn't you run the risk of getting some type of bacterial infection. I don't know...just wondering.
Water won’t help because beneficial bacteria colonizes on surfaces. Used filter media, rocks, or decor would work. Liquid bacteria starter is sold everywhere and is a great tool to help you get started.
@@dalebailey754 I dont know about that... I have had lots of success with cycled water method ..atleast I have with saltwater.
@@philthy2234 the water column holds no beneficial bacteria.
I threw in a piece of vegetable waste.. I think it worked.. just stalks of herb we use coriander if you know..
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You can take a significant amount of substrate from an established aquarium and add it to your new aquarium. Then put a layer of new substrate on top of it. Replace what you pulled from the other aquarium with new. Even if you do this method, add bacteria into the aquarium.
By right away. Do you mean before adding water? Or after?
Before then add water. Its easier to scape if you do it before.. But u can always add more in
Prime and stability from seachem
Use ADA soil! I leaks ammonia for the cycle
So the goal is to have no ammonia and no nitrite but I do want nitrate? Is this correct ? Also where can I get a detailed step by step on how to cycle a tank ?
Yeah, u want no ammonia and nitrite, and u want nitrate to present only that mean ur tank is fully cycle
This is the BEST video I have found for the explanation on tank cycle and when to add plants. I get it now. I set up my first aquarium last night and I wanted to add plants right away because it seemed like a good idea just using common sense. The lady at the store said "they would almost melt if you add them before the cycle is done." That made no sense even to a novice like me. I know not to add fish but plants? Really?
She's kinda right. If you add plants during a fish-less cycle they will more than likely consume the ammonia before the Beneficial bacteria can.
@@Roman-fo7to then what happens?
@@Roman-fo7to so the person in the TH-cam video is wrong? I shouldn't?
@@kandykane2160 see now that's the problem I'm having. Apparently you can do a fishless cycle with plants it will just take longer and your colony of beneficial bacteria will be smaller. But theres also a method done by "the planted tank" where he plants heavily and adds all the fish at once. He's successful as you can see on his channel but his videos are the only proof that his way works.
@@kandykane2160 and to answer your question of what happens is the benefical bacteria colony will shrink because it has no food source (which is ammonia). If you need more of an explanation watch aquarium co op's video on cycling a planted aquarium
Alright adding plants in theory would lengthen the cycling time right? Because plants also use ammonia and would compete with beneficial bacteria? Can somebody confirm this?
From my understanding no, because while yes theyre using it theyre also adding ammonia back to the water through decaying plant matter
I messed up I bought a fish that’s coming in 1-7 business days and I don’t even have a tank
Thanks. Ive seen some test strips that look so easy to use. How accurate are those. Prob not 100pcnt compared to the actual test kits, but are they useful?
What about testing water hardness? Do I need to worry about water hardness? My water registers as being pretty hard.
The only fish that will live in my tank is my betta. He's the star of the tank :) I have 2 nerite snails to help with clean up and I've left a few of the pond snails for now, but I'm probably going to get rid of them because I don't see that they are helping. They don't seem to get very big either. Do you think I need to worry about water hardness for my tank? Oh and I have lots of plants.
The hardness of my tank water runs is somewhere between 150 and 300. I only have test strips for that. My other levels I check with the API master freshwater test kit.
Salifert kh test kits man, super fast and accurate.
Ugh. I haven't really needed to cycle in like 10 years, just used existing water, media, and fish as I upgraded tanks. Forgot what a pain it is starting fresh for an impatient person...
First time doing a fully planted tank, though, so I wanted to know about cycling with them.
Water doesnt have bacteria.... media has some... substrate has the most.
@@fetchingfinches9120 I didn't say it did. But using old tank water in a new tank means the water parameters will be the same so there's no shock to the fish.
@@MadCheshireHat I have done this method with saltwater many times with great success
@@MadCheshireHat Not true at all. Not one bit- your substrate, plant, and of course your filter media will determine it. It can change as time progresses. Good bacteria doesn't live in the water- it lives on surfaces.... no need to use old water: in fact, not a good idea at all.
@@fetchingfinches9120 yes. I know the beneficial bacteria lives on surfaces. Again, I didn't say it didn't. What I did say was that the water parameters would be the same. And by this I mean temperature, pH, nitrate, and plant nutrients in the water column already exists in the tank. There might even be food for the bacteria in it as well.
I've done this many times and have never had any problems. If the fish lived in the water before, why wouldn't they be able to after? Especially combined with fresh water. Not much different from a water change.
So if there is no ammonia there is no nitrite?
@Omegalul but without ammonia theres nothing to convert. And nitrite gets converted to nitrate anyway. So am i right?
I can smell when my tank is cycled. Has that aroma of outdoor water fishing type smell..
Why did lisa do a water change while cycling her tank?
why
What lights are those ones ??
@@h2oplants630 nice 1 !can you change the colour of the light with the remote ?
@@h2oplants630 and does it work for freshwater planted tanks??
Do you think 2 of these would be ok for a 900mm x 610mm deep planted tank.... that's the last question ✌.. probably😂
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hmmm...there is my mistake ...I done everything in two days...... and now I have a lot of problems and don't understand whats going on ....... there is answer :(
these methods are old now imo, for a small fish planted community tank just use prime and bacteria in a bottle (from a shop, not online you don't know the storage or age otherwise). prime will convert the ammonia into a none toxic ammonia thats ok for fish and the filter bacteria which 1 dose out of a bottle is easy 1 weeks of a population by the old leave food in method will still munch on it has if it was the toxic ammonia
. 55g tank cycled within a week. tho for it to work you must have fish in the tank, the food method etc wont feed enough for the bacteria ya dumping in.
I am doing plants and adding fish food.
It takes my tanks months to cycle, not 2-6 months. I must be doing something wrong…
Are you War Owl ?
qt!
I add snails :/
Can I cycle a fish tank using a turtle??
When to add plants!!?? Add them as soon as you add water
No disrespect but its all unnecessary, just use seacham prime or something similar and it's done , not saying these long winded ways are wrong far from it and probably best for someone new to the hobby but its not necessary, tested this several times 1 week ,never lost a fish. These ways are outdated.
@@h2oplants630 I add bacteria beforehand, that's all you need to do ,leave it a week then add your fish slowly ,works every time,plenty of these things on the market that make a 6 week cycling totally unnecessary,I should say add the prime and bacteria at the same time ,give a week and done.i have 5 very healthy aquariums all done that way.
@@MrPetebuster1 adding the benefical bacteria then waiting a week before adding an ammonia source is stupid because the bacteria starves before it even gets the ammonia lmao
Watched this while im high
Wrong! Plants prefere amonia not nitrate :/ I'm sorry bro I'm not a plant but you can do your resurch on it :)
Stan Hristov I think you need to go back to high school biology class mate, plants in general need a unspeifed amount of uera nitrogen (ammonia or ammonium (ph dependant) along side other nitrogen sources, potassium sources and phosphorus sources. Those are the 'big three' fertilizers but even beyond that plants are 'hungry' for many elements and usually like certain isotopes or compounds of/containing those elements for example aquatic plants use fe3+ more readily than other isotopes of iron.
As far as my horticultural knowledge of aquatic plants... in general they really don't discrimnate a lot about the nitrogen source.
"sorry bro"
Do ya "resurch"