Victorinox Pioneer X vs Compact - Is this my new favourite everyday carry?
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- In this video I review the Victorinox Pioneer X Swiss Army Knife and compare it with the Victorinox Compact to see which will be my Everyday Carry - or EDC - winner. This Pioneer X featured is a Victorinox Limited Edition Model in the 2021 orange colour. Nothing has yet replaced may Victorinox Compact as my favourite EDC pocket carry knife. But the Pioneer X is a real contender.
My name is Jonathan, I have a passion for all things 'gadget, travel and EDC' which has filled both my personal and work life for many years. This includes sourcing, reviewing and product development and the creation of two UK national retail chains. Find out more here: • About Jon Gadget - Who...
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Contents of this video to help you navigate:
00:00 Intro
00:25 What's in the box
01:26 Alox and the Limited Edition
02:55 Comparing the Victorinox Pioneer X with the Compact
04:12 The Blade
06:05 The Scissors
07:38 The Can Opener Screwdriver
08:12 The Large Screwdriver Cap Lifter
09:00 The Awl
10:19 Comparing features and dimensions with Compact
16:05 The winner is....
17:25 Cost comparison
18:03 Conclusion and Outro
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The fact remains, you just can’t have it awl.
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Well played, sir.
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SAKs are incredible. Never any blade wobble, walk and talk, edge bevels, overall fit and finish, etc. are always excellent and at such a low price. The common problems with slip joint knives are almost non-existent with Victorinox. People exaggerate edge retention, so they criticize Victorinox steel. But I cut cardboard all the time with my SAKs, and they do fine. Victorinox steel excels in all other categories: corrosion resistance, ease of sharpening, chipping resistance, sharpness, etc.
totally agree!
Well said!! Victorinox Swiss army knives,are by far the best edc knives by far! That,will never change!!
Out of all the knives I’ve used the Victorinox blade is my all around favorite. It’s so easy and effortless to get them razor sharp.
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The quality of the lighting in this video is exceptional. Very pleasing to the eyes, both the foreground and background. Well done!
Top notch audio too.
thanks for the comments - really nice to hear 🙏
@@JonGadget Just found your channel today, and I'm going through all your videos. Really impressed at the high production quality right from the first video: audio, lighting, quality content... all good stuff.
@@TokyoXtreme thank you 🙏 that's really great to hear 😊 thanks for watching.
Yeah your right -exceptional
I don't really know what's in the background, but I like the colors and lighting there in addition to what has already been mentioned.
I finally broke down and purchased my first SAK a couple of months ago despite being a life-long jack knife carrier and I’ve got to say I’ve developed such a genuine affection for Swiss Army Knives in general even though I own a couple of beautiful edc folders with premium steel that I also carry. If I had to choose to carry only one knife for the rest of my life I would definitely choose a SAK even over a far more expensive premium knife all day long! There is just something so romantic about these classic folders that is truly undeniable…at least as far as I’m concerned ❤️
Jon the quality of his videos and transparent and impartial analysis, conquers the public more and more. Congratulations for this great review.
Hugs from Brazil!
Thank you Sávio - really appreciated 🙏
Simply an outstanding channel. The right amount of detail and attention to detail (for me), excellent production value, helped by top-shelf editing. Doffed cap Sir !
Very thorough, detailed, unbiased comparison. Thank you for sharing and I also wanted to take the opportunity to thank you for turning me onto the Compact model overall not long ago in the first place. It wasn’t on my radar initially but it’s a beautiful little edc on those days I might not want to carry my slightly bigger, heavier and bulkier Huntsman and/or Handyman. I’m now considering purchasing one to have available to slip into the pocket of a pair of shorts on those days when it’s uncomfortably hot and do so without unwillingly sacrificing my edc. That’s not going to happen.
I very much enjoyed this video. Thank you for the comparisons. I still am undecided on which I prefer.
Well done! I love your reviews. I have both knives and come to the same conclusions as you. The compact for EDC is unbeatable with its ideal weight and tools.
Thanks Pierre 🙏 😃
Hey John, thanks for a great review. Every time i watch one of your reviews on a SAK, i end up buying it. You’re killing me, LOL. I really enjoy your videos.
I agree with you on your choice Jon. My compact I use as my EDC during the work week for it’s additional functionality. My pioneer X in red is my more casual carry in the rotation.
good to know 👍
Watched a bunch of your reviews lately, in the middle of a philosophical reboot of a lot of my edc type stuff and I'm enjoying your (and a number of other) channels ability to review a product with relatively little subjective information, and precisely zero bent towards ridiculous theories like "Oh my God the world ended I'm a SAS/SF/Ranger now, this one pocket tool will have to get me through Armageddon!!!" Just reasonable uses by reasonable people, keep doing what your doing!
One of my new found favorite TH-cam channels. Keep it coming brother.
Thank you 🙏
Great video and I just bought this knife. This is the one I have been wanting to find for awhile so thanks for doing a video on it.
Thanks for the review Jon, it looks a lovely knife, i've just subscribed and learned so much from the reviews, thanks very much.
I have a No 7 Alox in silver. In fact, I have two. Brilliant knives. Lovely, thick blade stock and smooth, positive action. The saw, and in particular the hawksbill blade (a highly underrated blade), get the most use. I wish that the saw had a liner lock, but as an EDC option, little comes close.
Thank you for reviewing and comparing. I was looking for a edc multitool so now I have a better idea what to look!
Great to hear 👍
The PX is gorgeous. I just ordered another waiter. I love its simplicity. Thanks fir the great videos.
thanks for the feedback 👍
Keep up the good work Jon, excellent channel and very good reviews
thank you 🙏
Great review, I love this guys background set up. Wish he’d do a video tour of all the stuff, and the stories behind them.
You do great reviews! Keep up the good videos!
Only found your channel a few days ago, and I must say I I loving your content! Keep it up
Thank you 🙏 👍
Compact is a great tool and has every day issues covered. Splinters, note taking, cutting loose threads or opening post with the knife or beer with the combo tool this SAK is great. At work I have a leatherman surge. The truck has a leatherman wave+ and at home I have a shed full of tools.
I am a big fan of the Surge too
Excellent review! Many thanks for posting it.
I do carry the Pioneer X as an EDC because of the size and the Alox scales. I used to carry a Compact an it’s scales pick up damage.
Take care!
great feedback - thank you
I love the look and feel of Alox but will always carry the classic red scales. The scale tools have become a daily use for me. Like many, I’ve grinded out the extra slot in the plus scales, but also added a slot in the front scale, giving me room for 7 tools (pressurized pen, toothpick, small tweezers, large tweezers ground down to a fine pound for splinters and tick removal, the ferro-rod, and two magnetized pins) that I would be without when using the Alox. Aside from that, the classic red scales are very nostalgic for me. My grandfather would always carry a large Victorinox when I was little, and I remember him using it all the time, from fixing my bicycle to cutting open a snack wrapper.
Appreciate your EDC videos; I credit them to my switch from the Leatherman Wave to the Swiss champ, as well as my further appreciation of Victorinox in general. Cheers!
Great feedback 👍 thanks for taking time to share
Hey Jonathan, I've become a massive fan of yours, your videos are top notch material, very pleasant and relaxing to listen to! I've recently finally acted on my childhood fascination with SAKs and started sort of collecting them. The Alox series, while lacking in some of the tools, is just so appealing, I managed to get myself a Pioneer X in red, and it's just so nice. I've got my eyes set on a black Alox Cadet, but it's just so hard to get one. Also, I can't wait to replace my keychain Classic with Silver Alox MiniChamp. You also got me hooked on when it comes to the Compact. I've realised I can only fit a two-layer SAK for pocket carrying (as a female in close-fitting jeans anything thicker becomes very noticeable). The Compact seems like the best option for me to combine with my keychain multitool. The only thing I wasn't able to get is the pocket clip.
Thanks for the feedback Katerina, I am really pleased you are enjoying the content. The red Pioneer X is a really great option. Compact is still my EDC. Google Keysmart for the pocket hanger - there is another similar product too. It is a game changer for carrying for such a low cost item. Good luck with your collection.
Hi Jon, love the channel, great review. I always carry a victorinox alox cadet in my pocket as you don't even know it's there and it's so practical. Along with my new rovyvon a8x which you persuaded me to buy, I think that's the perfect pocket EDC. Mind you, this is very nice and I love the colour
great EDC you have their John - I would miss the scissors though
Great review. You are new to my feed. I think your content will become quite popular! Keep up the good work. You’re great to listen to. Thank you from the USA 🇺🇸!
Thank you, much appreciated 🙏
Good information. Thank you. I haven't know this much about pioneer x.
you're welcome 👍
Love your detailed reviews and 4K camera resolution. Please review all your multi tool collections!!
Thanks for the feedback - lots of multitools to come!
Another great vid. Brilliant production quality and you're a really confident speaker.
I've a pioneer on the way i think it'll make a great tool to keep in the glove box of the van.
Cheers 🍻
Thanks Rab for the feedback - appreciated 🙏
As much as I like the Alox scales. I prefer the Plus scales. I like the extra small tools you get. Also I use them more as to why I carry 91mm Victorinox with Plus scales. I also love the hook with the nail file! Keep up the great videos!
I’ve been edcing the compact for 6 years, 8 months and 13 days. It’s my go too, every single day. It never let me down. 😊💪👊
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And Jon, thanks for great channel, good job!
thank you 🙏
Love these SAK reviews Jon
I EDC a Hiker. Has all the tools I need and the "normal" style phillips screwdriver works for me. It compliments the Leatherman Wingman I wear on my belt nicely. I'm a building maintenance tech and these two tools have saved me countless trips to my truck when noticing the loose doorknob or lock set. I use the leathermans blade as a "beater" blade for things like scraping glue, saving the hikers blades for cutting chores. Just a winning combination.
BTW, the quality of your videos are outstanding. Lighting, audio, and content are top shelf!
Thanks for sharing, it's great to see how other people choose to carry. Thanks also for the channel feedback, much appreciated 🙏
Just ordered the 2023 limited edition pioneer can't wait to get it.
Excellent review/comparison Jon! I agree that these 2 represent a nice compromise for size & weight. After buying & trying many medium sized Victorinox models for myself, it came down to deciding between the Tinker and the Pioneer X for my EDC bag. The Compact looks pretty good, but I've got no use for that corkscrew tool and I really want some kind of Phillips driver - even if it's only the original can opener (which you don't get on the Compact). I should also mention that I carry the Manager on my keychain, so I've already got a small pen, tweezers, nail file, etc. with me at all times.
In the end, I decided on the Pioneer X but with a twist. I'm going to attempt to replace the cap lifter/large flathead tool with the small blade from the Victorinox Electrician. To me, this produces a more useful tool set for my needs. I think having a smaller blade on this size of knife makes it more versatile and easier to control for fine cuts than the large blade. And since the can opener also works as a flathead driver, for me there really isn't much lost in deleting the cap lifter.
Nice review video. Wonderful presentation. Your videos are so addictive. Love watching them. 👍
Thank you - really appreciated 🙏
Great review. I love the ferro rod accessory. I didn't know such a thing existed. I have 6 Swiss Army knives and I am going to add a ferro rod to each of them. Also, I agree with your final decision on which knife to carry.
That's a nice knife! Love the orange too. I did get the smaller one in the purple. But went back to get the clear one with the FLASHLIGHT on the end of it. Which I really like. Great video on this knife. 😀👍👍👍
Thanks Jennifer for the feedback 👍
I just discovered your channel. Fantastic. Cool EDC content.
Thank you 🙏
Super Tinker for my EDC. Have been using it for the last 6 months and I love it. Was using the slimmer Tinker for years but I found more need for the scissors and the slightly thicker form of the ST fits nicer in the small pocket of my jeans for work. I was a knifehand for 16 years in 2 abbatoirs, so I know a quality blade steel when I sharpen them. Love these knives. Will be moving to the Explorer for EDC when it shows up. I'm a big fan of most Victorinox products, I even have their Inox Automatic watch.
I have been collecting the yearly Limited edition Pioneers for a few years and was pleased this year they changed it to a Pioneer X. The scissors are in a fact a joy! Will be getting SAKs with the scissors hopefully from now on.
thanks for the feedback Ramiro
Well done on your review Jon! I do have the Compact and Pioneer X Silver Alox which are my favorites, you must have both really and it's up to you which to carry on day to day basis, but to be honest I carry the compact more due to weight as well and the toothpick. Now i'm looking on getting the super tinker as I want to preserve my compact due to its rarety here in NZ.
Thanks for the feedback, good too hear your thoughts.
Great video Jon. I tried carrying a Pioneer X for a month or so but I just couldn’t get on with the additional weight (and I missed the toothpick!). I went back to my Spartan / Super Tinker rotation. Incidentally, I carried an explorer (which is still own) for a good 10 years. Owned it since I was 16 , I’m 50 now.
great feedback - the weight is what stopped me too
Great review! I can see why you chose the Compact over the Pioneer X. I love most of the Alox SAKs and my EDC is the Farmer X which adds a saw blade. I'm an avid outdoors person, hiker and camper and I prefer the more robust Alox versions of SAKs for outdoor use. I would not carry the Pioneer X or Farmer X in my front pocket because that is just too much. But I almost always wear cargo pants so my larger Farmer X rides unnoticed in a side pocket. The saw is a real bonus for woods use as is the awl. I have tweezers on my keychain and carry a pen in my vest which is EDC for me.
Nice reviews Jon! Love your videos and it resonates with me and my priorities.
IMHO: Compact is more versatile primarily because of the scale tool. A couple of tips if i may: I flat sided with a file the inner side of multipurpose hook to use it as a striker with firefly and not dulling the blade. If you have something small and flat like keys it's best to align the firefly together with the key so there is less stress on the tiny ferrocerium rod and less likely to brake it.
Saying that I'm carrying the "Manager" as it is keychain size and I never leave the house without my keys.
The manager has a great Phillips-head screwdriver and having a pen is also great for writing down little things or signing a check or something.
The manager (rambler) also reverses the location of the main blade to be opposite of the keychain ring which is better then a "classic" knife.
When traveling by plane i have the Leatherman Juice CS3 that does not have a blade (or pliers) and might be an ok option if you need scissors.
I have one on the way, can’t wait!!
You can't go wrong with either of these
@@JonGadget I am such an idiot! I was checking out my alox collection and I already own this knife. 🫤 well… at least I’ll have a mint in box backup now. Off to find a gray one now. 🤣🤣
Hello Jon. Love your films! My choice for an EDC is the Huntsman... The tools included are really the complete solution, particularly the Saw Tool, which has a surprising utility. The price is attractive too, given the features!
Love your angle on these tools!!
thank you 🙏
Great comparison! Didn't know I needed a Compact until now... Been carrying a Pioneer X since they came out and I love it. Recently picked up a Super Tinker to throw into the EDC rotation, but I think I might toss a Compact into the rotation as well.
Just discovered your channel, BTW. Some great content. Really enjoyed the videos on your kits. Very practical and well thought out without any gimmicks.
Take care!
Thanks for the kind feedback and welcome to the channel 👍
Excellent comparison!
thank you 🙏
In my honest opinion, the deluxe tinker is forgotten far too often.
It really has everything you need (if you don't need a saw because when you're not a bushcraft person) and is still very compact.
The deluxe tinker is always there and i have never missed any functionality in my everyday life.
I also added the pin and put the plus scales to have the pen.
For me by DISTANCE the best EDC!
My to go to is the huntsman with the plus scales to make it more urban friendly, i am an outdoor hobbyist but im not outdoors all the time but i find the saw pretty handy in some urban situations tho, making some chocolate flakes for desert hahaha, also sometimes some tree branches are to long and people who take care of that dont notice it i just cut it off with my saw (ofcourse for both situations i wash it first hahahaha)
I almost went with the deluxe tinker but in the end pulled trigger on explorer and that solely because of the inline philips
@@MrSuvvri buy some plus scales for it (its not expensive at all) on etsy or any places on the internet (but buy one wich comes with the pen) and you have the ultimate urban EDC with you hahaha
It's just the most elegant object I've ever touched. Perfect size, perfect balance, fits perfectly in your pocket
Great to hear 👍
I just purchased a farmer x today and I have to say I might just be a fan of the alox SAKs. It's awesome so far! You should carry both! Also Nice comparison video!
I love the Army-7 (harvester?)..
I drilled & tapped the aluminum scales on the side opposite the red shield and attached a spiderco titanium pocket clip.
It's totally badass. It has been my EDC for nearly 3 years. I plan to buy another and do the same thing, keep as a backup in case I lose the one I currently carry.
Anyway, love your victorianox reviews.. thanks to you I am doing to buy the spirit-x.
Thank you.
Harvester,Explorer,Spirit x and the Rucksack, are my favorite Victorinox! Best edc ever and forever!!!
Lovely video as usual Jon!
Thanks Ben. I think we have a similar mindset when it comes to reviews, although I don't appreciate keyboards in the way you do!
@@JonGadget Heh yeah for sure! Great to see your channel going from strength to strength!
@@BenVallack Thanks Ben. if you wanted to connect to share YT experiences feel free to drop me an email - address is in the about section 👍
@@JonGadget Will do cheers!
I've actually got exactly the same knife, orange alox, and all. It's probably my favorite Victorinox knife, and I often use it as my daily carry.
I didn't know such a thing existed! I'm a big Farmer man as I hang out in the woods quite a bit but do love a pair of scissors. I fear I need to buy yet another victorinox now. Thanks a bunch!
Huge fan, got my first LE-Alox thanks to you. Although it’s heavier than the Compact. I got some big hands and can appreciate the extra thickness. A switch blade pocket knife video would be sick. Thank you
both great options 👍
I'd really love to have a closer look at the Pioneer X, but I'm good with my Waiter and Huntsman, so I'm considering to give it to my dad for his birthday. The Alox versions are gorgeous, but the loss of functionality is undeniable as you said. I don't think he'd miss those functions, though.
I friggin love my waiter.
Awesome knife, thanks for the review! (And Compact is my urban EDC king.)
Love the Waiter. Blade, Combination tool and Corkscrew. So light and nimble. Have had a few, and getting another when this one wears out. No snip snip though ;) Use the blade for that. Been sailing, so the Corkscrew is really handy untying wet knots. The alox bantam with a screw would be ideal (Edit: if one has gloves that is, since the alox seems a bit slippery sometimes in a wet environment)
Swiss army climber is my EDC of choice. I love my Pioner X. Have used my Regular Pioneer (Black) now for over 6 years and its my EDC for work as its non threatening.
I carried the super tinker for years. I like your choices as well. I want it all!
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I'm in complete agreement with this video. I've owned both for several years (and lots of other expensive pocket knives). Yes, my PioneerX is unquestionably the better built, higher quality, more luxurious knife, but I find that I just can't give up that pragmatic Compact toolset. From the pin (for ejecting your celphone sim tray) to the glasses tool (summertime sunglasses arm tightening) to the little pen (signing random receipts) it's just such a thoughtful everyday urban/suburban workhorse. If you own one and brush aside all pretention, in the long one it will be the one that wins the war of attrition for your pocket. At least for me.
I just wish victoranox tools came in higher quality steel because damn, I'm sick of the frequent re-sharpening.
Great feedback - exactly my thoughts too.
Victorinox are just absolutely great. The compact is my most carried and favorite model. Lately I've been enjoying having an Alox Electrician with me. It's a Pioneer but has an electricians blade instead of the can opener. The electricians sheepfoot blade is really good too. I prefer the heavier duty Alox tools also. I have yet to get a Pioneer X but I do carry my regular Pioneer quite a bit. The Cadet is another wonderful tool as well. Very small slim and light. I don't typically miss the scale tools as I keep a classic on my keyring which is either in my pocket or nearby if I'm out of the house. Now if they made an alox Compact or basically something like a Pioneer X with a combo tool instead of a separate opener layer. Angle the combo opener so that it fits with the scissors and keep the main blade an awl and it might be able to stay as a 2 layer tool then. Until then I'll just have to buy more sak's until I have them all I suppose.
I LOVE the color burnt orange and always have for some reason. It’s such a rich looking color.
I've been using my compact for many years as my EDC knife.
Love its two layers reduced profile, pen, SCISSORS, screwdriver, tweezers and pin.
I also use its hook, but only for fishing purposes (knot tightening)
More tools add weight and thickness. For field day y prefer having a saw as well, but not for the city.
30-plus years of using Victorinox knives, and I only learned today that there is a distinct difference between the "93 mm" knives and the "91 mm knives", that the 93 mm range has more robust blades and tools. Now I'm considering getting one, but I can't decide quite which. In the past, I've used the Huntsman and SwissChamp in the 91 mm range, but never owned a 93 mm range Victorinox. The only Victorinox I carry on a daily basis now is the 58 mm Rambler, which is very possibly my favorite knife of all time and certainly my most-used knife.
They are a great addition to any Vic collection - not too many to choose from!
I remember being so stoked for the release of the Pioneer X, then summarily unimpressed upon taking delivery of mine. It never saw the inside of my pocket. Great vid!
Why never carry?
Really? Why? If you don’t mind 👍🏻
Thanks for kind comments re the vid 😃
@@allemander It all boils down to personal preference. I’ve found that I like the light weight and extra implements in the scales of the cellidor 91mm models- not to mention the extra tools on the back. Years and years of carrying pocketknives, and I’ve found that 2 layers is the most I carry in a SAK. The awl on the Pioneer 93mm range is second to none, but not enough to warrant the extra weight, bulk, and lack of functionality. If I were inclined to “go big”, I’d carry the Climber or Explorer over the Pioneer X. But again, this is just my preference. I appreciate the robust nature of the Alox models, but at the end of the day I feel they underdeliver when compared with their 91mm cellidor cousins.
Jonathan, I really enjoy your reviews. I take great stock and what you say.
I used to carry the Executive alone, but I really loved the larger tougher tools of the. Cadet. So I also carry in a small zippered pouch, a Classic, for the scissors, tooth pic and tweezer. I also have hearing protection in that pouch and a small container of Obenauf's
thanks for the feedback David
TH-cam algorithm brought me to your channel. You have good content so I just subscribed.
My go-to EDC is a pocket knife pairing with Victorinox Rambler. I live in city environment hence Rambler is handy for small cutting job (small blade or scissors) and dealing with electrical stuff (flat head and Philip screw).
When I travel abroad, typically I would carry Victorinox Pioneer X on body to replace Rambler and folding knife, on my casual or formal attire. Obviously I don't want to break the local law while still able to have useful tool on me. Pioneer X with sturdier build, sufficient tools on it while not bulky to carry is a plus, looks nice too.
Apologies for the very slow slow response - I'm just playing catchup - thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel 👍
I edc Swisschamp and not missing any tool lol , all available at all times . Yes it is bit bulky , but after few days od edc it in pocket get use to it . Good channel , kind regards 👌
I have been looking into getting a Victorinox for a while to replace my small Leatherman Squirt, but for years just couldn't figure out which one because of the large selection, and not having a shop nearby to feel them out. But this channel made me sure the Compact was the right one so just bought it! Thanks for good content :-)
Great video!!
IMHO the Compact SAK it's a better casual urban EDC, slimmest with very useful "accessories".
Under my experience: opening the "hidden slot" of the "corkscrew scale" there's an space for a short tweezers
.. and the teethpicker comes again to our SAK! Hurraaa!
I'm a fan of your high quality videos.
Regards from Germany.
great feedback - thanks Tano
Love this knife, but got the red alox Farmer X limited edition from Knifecenter instead. It comes with the excellent saw in addition to the Pioneer X tools. I do love this orange color though and wish I had snagged one. Agree the inline awl on these models is so superior to the standard awl which is at 90 degrees to the knife. Thanks for the review! Always enjoy your comparisons.
Got one today as a late father's day present. We'll chuffed 👍
great present 👍
Really enjoy your videos! How about one on the Farmer X Alox?
The ultimate Alox...... 😃
I own the Pioneer x, Farmer x, Compact and the Explorer with the plus scales and find myself rotating them as edc.
The size difference doesn’t matter that much in the pocket for me.
They have all their pros:
The alox scales feel so nice.
The farmer x stands out with it’s saw. Once I was able to repair my folding kayak with this very knive: saw ahle and screw driver… saved a long weekend.
My black pioneer x is just stylish. Carry it mostly when I am wearing a suit.
The compact is just everything you need in your urban everyday life! You could live with that as only SAK and maybe a SA tool for bigger use outdoors and around the house.
My hidden Champion is the Explorer “plus”! I pumped it with the plus scales (needle and pen are just good to have!) and the eyeglass screw driver. You have the backside Ahle, the hook (use it quite regularly). The “4th” layer with the eyeglass and the inline Phillips driver are so awesome! High usability. The magnifying glass helps out with small printings on electric parts, the search for splinters etc. And the online Phillips is just better and safer to use than the one on the can opener and you don’t damage screws so easily. With 4 layers it is ok for its size with outstanding use. Wondering why it is not more popular.
It would make a great gift 👍
These are my two favorites too. I have them both, but the Compact usually wins because there's a swisstool spirit in my bag, which covers everything the Pioneer would bring and lots more.
agree!
Fantastic reviews Jon. I wasn’t that keen on this model, but watching your review has made me think again. I really wish that they offered it in assorted colours. The limited edition is considerably more expensive than the standard silver. I can’t justify the premium price just for the colour though. Looks like I will get the silver.😀
The silver is very nice too 😊
You can paint the silver whatever color you like. Search for "how to paint victorinox alox".
I would go with the compact. It is my EDC alongside with a evogrip 14. Definitely going to try a pioneer x
thanks for the feedback 👍
Very good review Jon! I also miss the scale tools in the alox knifes, which I love. Therefore I ordered a custom knife from Robert Lessard (SAKmodder) with scale drawer that can hold the tools and then a mag glass swapped in for can opener. THis is of course very expensive compared to the stock knifes and the que is very long but if you concidering a custom knife I can highly recommend his work.
I'll check him out! Sounds like an ideal solution. Thanks for sharing.
I have a heavy duty Victorinox multi tool pliers, ironically the awl has been the most useful tool so far.
When I had to put screws into hard wood and they would slide off it made the starting hole and they would just drive in.
Or when I had to remove some metal clips and I could slide the tip under and pry them out.
Since I carry that thing with me wherever I go I am trying a bit too hard to justify getting another Victorinox.
But being a collector I guess it's inevitable.
Thanks for another great review.
Thanks for sharing Christos - Victorinox make a great multitool 👍
The file on the back of the parcel carrier tool works great on sharpening fish hooks.
Recently found your channel, love the content. For me, the Pioneer X is the way to go between the two. Check out the Victorinox Super Tinker. It was my edc for years.
Thank you for the kind comment 😊 Super Tinker is a very capable option
I love the Alox tools. They just feel so well made.
Some edc-gear works better in a system. For example the alox works pretty well in combination with the swisscard. Great content btw. I really like enjoyed all the Victorinox and leatherman videos. Greetings from the Netherlands!
thanks Dennis for the feedback - good point re system 👍
hey, great to see the comparison and more importantly to me, the assurance on the Compact since I have just spend an arm and leg to get one (costing around AUD80 here in Australia) hahaha keep it up!
will be worth it I think 👍
@@JonGadget and the keysmart nano clip is perfect Jon
Had the Compact - love it; just got the PXA and love it too. The PXA is definitely a sturdier & stronger tool. So yes, the Compact is a great EDC & the PXA is ASC (Always Somewhere Close)... I've given up finding the right knife to have all the time; better to have many knives in many places with easy access.
I know I’m late to the party. However, I’m really enjoying your Victorinox series 👍
I am in love with the compact. IMHO this unit is for carrying as stand alone light tool. The Alox series seems to be more prone to be included in an EDC kit, where you will have room for a pen and tweezers (and ferrorod and other extra tools). Thanks for sharing!
That orange is gorgeous. I just ordered last years (2023) yellow. Pound for pound the alox SAK’s are the best there is for my money
Very nice video, Thanks 👍💖
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I have both. I rotate them as my urban EDC.
Great video, again. For me, the best edc is a 3 layer SAK. In my case this is the older, pre-hook climber. Like you I have to have a scissors. These Aolx SAKs have always appealed to me, but I do use the tweezers a lot in the field.
Hi Bill, yes 2-3 layers for me for EDC - always with scissors 👍
Really enjoying your channel! Where did you get that nifty hook on your red handled knife? Is that to hook onto your pocket, or just whatever you feel like hooking it onto?