wa..wat... HOW? I... thought we just said the teams were spread too thin....Now we have the teams for a VAL MMO? Did riot forget about the Runeterra one?.... Are we still alive bois?.....
@@sasato8966 I mean, yes you are correct. But that's just the earliest we as outsiders noticed it. It's very possible it was around another year or two before that.
Just a heads up: Destiny 2 added a super robust in-game group finder last year. It supports all activities and has in-game voice and text chat. The price points, however, are a huge block from getting people into the game.
@@cinnoee there was never a Destiny 3, but there were plans of a Genshin-styled game that never started active development before being scrapped about 2 months ago.
@@Diopside. Warframe is quite popular and has cemented itself as a top looter-shooter mmo with a fairly active community. It isn't a Valorant level shooter and it isn't a WoW level mmo, but it's very solid and quite popular
@@Diopside.Warframe is popular and has an extremely loyal fanbase. Plus steady update schedule and new content. Something many big mmos struggle with.
Destiny 2 is an mmolite not an mmo. Has the gaming elements (raids, social space, guilds, etc) of an mmo minus the mass amount of players in an instance
I don't think this is a bad thing tbh. Especially as Valorant doesn't need a lot of devs right now and having all your eggs in one basket is a terrible idea
In regards to the "triple A game does not mean a lot", they probably are asking for it not because they did something of quality, but that they were able to work in the AAA enviroment and developed or understood some of the skills necessary (teamwork, management bureocracy aspects) to operate under the AAA work pipeline instead of a more indie game or solo-dev work experience.
To confirm to you, yes destiny 2 devs have indeed made a group finder for everything, from raids, dungeons activities and even the pvp stuff, but they still have alot of issues passing their story releases to not lose interest. which is the thing dragging it down right now, stories have been doing alright, this last dlc was pretty freaking good, specially with it being the last of the 10 year saga they had made, but when it comes to seasonal stories they struggle to grasp how to deliver it.
The D2 segment hit hard T_T... thankfully there is a fully in game group finder, but yeah getting into the game has always been rough since the vaulting of content. Right now especially with the future of the game up in the air, If riot can make a game with gameplay as smooth as Destiny I can see them filling the void current Destiny is making.
*BUT the Destiny LFG system sucks and still has huge issues. Also Raids probably won’t be fun for Necrit with the LFG since it’s all toxic KWTD or else. No optional difficulty for raids. Destiny is failure IMO
@EchoDoctrine - Not necessarily true. I play Destiny, and they do have their regular raids & then "Master" versions of each, which are harder. 🤷🏻♀️😏 That might not technically be several different levels of difficulty but... it's something. It's at least a "hardmode" or whatever. What they DO have, that comes with multiple levels of difficulty, are something called "Nightfalls". And those are a LOT of fun. It's where they take a strike (a 3 player mini raid if you will) and make it the featured strike of the week, by calling it a "Nightfall". In the NF version of the strike, they add additional villains to fight, including ones called Champions, that you need special mods to "stun" so they take more damage etc. And this "Nightfall" DOES come in various difficulty levels, starting with Advanced, then Expert, then Master until... you get to the GrandMaster level, which is the hardest version. These Nightfalls might not be raids, however they are incredibly popular, and ... they work & FEEL like a mini raid, only just with a 3 person fireteam is all. So the game still has options for folks. And because the playerbase is used to these being the option... none of us feel as thought we are missing out on anything. To be fair, Destiny isn't an MMO. Not really. It has MMO-lite qualities about it (raids, dungeons, etc) but it's not quite the same as games like WoW. It's like this weird fusion of FPS/RPG/MMO, and although that is kinda weird, lol, it has worked, for at least 10yrs so far. And it's FPS gunplay feels sooo damn good compared to other games, that it's managed to keep even some of it's most disgruntled players coming back time & again, with every new expansion & dlc, as it's difficult to find THAT level of crispy gunplay elsewhere, trust me. Their endgame PvP mode (called "Trials") still has fairly decent numbers of people playing & watching it, every weekend. And whenever a new raid in the game drops, Bungie hosts a "World's First" tournament for it, where fireteams (made up of 6 players each), all compete to finish the raid first. Hundreds of thousands of people tune in to watch these tournaments (just in America alone) - even people who don't play the game tune in - all cuz they are legit THAT fun to watch. The raid they put out for their latest expansion The Final Shape, is absolutely f*cking bonkers. lol In a 48hr tournament window... only ONE team was able to beat it within a 24hr window. Almost didn't make it. The 2nd best team couldn' beat it for another 5 hours after that. It's the most difficult raid the game had ever dropped. One encounter alone took the winning team 8hrs to figure out. It was madness. Destiny ain't dead yet guys. 👊🏽😉 Not yet. lol
@@KabbalahSherry having a raid that only ONE team can beat & takes over 24 hrs…. Maybe that’s good for twitch viewership & people say “wow that’s crazy”. BUT then those people’s next words are probably “wow I could never do that, that’s gotta be so hard, only one team … hmmm maybe this game isn’t for me” That’s my point. Destiny lacks entry mechanics and it always has. Might be cool for community to brag “we have hardest thing ever” BUT that might push potential casual players away from buying, trying, playing product repeatedly. Lots of gamers want to play things that are fun & easy during their free-time NOT play something extremely difficult that’s as hard as a job. Maybe. Just my thoughts, I’ve heard destiny isn’t doing so hot now, I saw that big streamer Grenade Jake tweeted the trials thing has its lowest player counts ever. But good luck. Hope it works out. Personally I hope for lots more games. Competition can often makes games better. 😉
@@KabbalahSherry D2 very much is dead. Former multi-seasonal trials 0.1% player here, trials of Osiris is entirely dead so idk where you’re getting your info about the player count being decent still as it’s been dropping ever since season 14. The only thing that sustains D2 are the day 1 contest raids, other than that, Bungie continues to make awful decision after decision in response to the overall state of the game which we can discuss if you want the specifics, but to name one, Eververse transactions. Don’t oversell the LFG system. It is only decent in the sense of how it has been implemented UI/functionality wise, but 9/10 the players who use this system are a lot of the time extremely bad at the game. The commonly known D2 LFG disc offers a lot more ease of access in getting a group up with comms very easily and that is where the actual above-average+ playerbase resides NFs being mini raids? Huh? 💀 I presume you’re on about dungeons here?? Also, I am going to presume you’re new to the game as well as the fact you’re saying they’re fun, as they’re not if you’re having to do the same strike over and over again each season, which most people if they’re not even gilding their conqueror title will do the same repetitive strike on GM for an extremely easy farm… Kinda tired of seeing people defend the state of the game when it’s a complete joke and in such a state. Bungie needs to reevaluate their priorities and where they lie within this IP and only then should we as consumers recommend and introduce people to the game Raid difficulty can’t be changed unless it’s that specific raid’s in the weekly rotation btw.
Nowadays, Destiny 2 has a fireteam finder system, and it works great. It's not the best to find people to bond with, but if you're just looking to put together a group and jump into ANY activity, you can create or join a post with specific tags, like "beginner"/"sherpa" or "experienced"/"fast clear".
14:01 As of now, D2 added a full lfg system last year, and has had voice chat for a while now. I also never did raids, but since they added the new system I have been able to play a few. The real issue with D2 is slow content cycle and poor monetization
What if Project T is the Name of the Runeterra MMO at the moment? Maybe they want to make it First Person and have a marksman class. It seems unlikely to that they are working on two differnt MMOs. Thats my opinion on that :)
@@nanopix5305 ah ok, I'm don't know enough about the teams thanks for letting me know. But i still think that Riot wont take that big of a risk by making two MMOs. Maybe the Project T is something different. But lets wait for more infos :)
You should make more videos about Valorant's lore! You talk a lot about pretty much every Riot game except for Valorant (which yeah, I understand that it's because it's a whole different universe, but still!) and as someone who's never played it or is familiar with the lore, I'd like to know more about its universe, and what better place to start with than your channel? :D
They did fix the issue of finding a public group for a raid in Destiny 2 as far as I know! Haven't tried it myself yet but I've heard from a friend it's way easier to do raids with strangers now.
I would love to have Necrit explain the lore of Valorant. I really loves how he write scripts & deliverance. I've watched some Valorant lore video, and most of them have those kind of intense deliverance ...
I really hope they make another game like Ruined King. That game was so fun. I know It'll probably never happen, but a new story and characters in that style game would be hype for me.
Warframe isnt really a FPS shooter - rather a horde shooter where u just nuke everything with abilities and AOE spam, single target guns like snipers are useless (only exceptions being Eidolons which have been abandoned by DE ( WF devs) for many years now)
its insane to be making 2 mmo's at the same time. But @Necrit I play Valorant and I really dont know what kinds of classes you can make and what kinds of abilities and stuff you can have. I would love if you made a video about it (no joke!)
They arent agruably the first to break the movie curse, when the Sonic movie came out to pretty great success a year before. As for fighting games, ever played newer fighting games? They all go into easier controlls for years now, riot is just following the trend here.
The "curse" has been broken even before that, especially when counting animation and series instead of solely live-action movies. It's wild to assume Arcane was the first and disregard the successes becuase of some failures. A more accurate title would be as one of the most acclaimed and successful adaptations, standing alongside others who came before.
all of this just works. edit; calling it now, looter shooter set in Valorant that possibly tries to yoink warframe's modding system. y'know, because it's really good, but i severely doubt it'll beat out DE.
They could definitely beat DE lmao. Riot legit specailizes in taking what already exists and making it better xD. They aren't very original but boy can they do some damn innovation lol.
They said before that we look at the genre and its community, see what they like and what they would love to see, and then we deliver that. So yeah, if any system is good and players love it, you should expect to see it in their game.
I actually hope it's more like D2 than Warframe. I mean class based shooter and first person. I wouldn't mind mods in a first person setting. As long as I can get one of Gekkos buddies as a pet
@@liqiye3611 For looter shooter players I think it'll be more high quality consistent updates and an actual endgame. A company that doesn't under deliver and give the bare minimum would be an excellent start
An update for anyone interested in Destiny, they have raid finder and group finder now, u dont have to make a pre built. In terms of coms there's always been text chat available and you can use mic as well.
It's funny how at this point Riot is practically the Devil, observing from afar the suffering and dissatisfaction of players with each type of current games and then offering an "offer of something better" Riot's logistics and marketing group is one of the craftiest things fr lmao 💀
well there is one game that while not an FPS but a TPS has been successful for the past 10+ years and still is kicking hard, Warframe Sure it's not perfect but they had a lot of time to cook, i hope riot can catch up
You know when they cut Riot Forge to focus inward it only kinda made sense to me. But if they're juggling 2 massive projects internally like we're speculating, that decision makes sense and lines up really well timeline wise.
Thinking about the Overwatch 2 players which was promised a PvE Mode, not getting anything could even get these players in the FPS MMO from Riot Games. There is much potential in this genre.
@@BoneWalker I mean he got to go to their headquarters and see a bunch of shit. Definitely a bit of you scratch my back I'll scratch yours, but he also got to see a bunch of stuff he can't talk about. So I imagine that probably changed his mind about the 'no new content.'
Of you check "League of legends" and "lol" you will see that the graphs are perfectly parallel, meaning that people search both terms and of you add them together you will see the real "league of legends graph" which is way higher than Valorant's at all times, although still Valorant's graph of higher than Destiny 2's and Warframe's combined
You may wanna do research before you speak about things you don't know. All those social features you said Destiny doesn't have well they do and have had them for over a year.
If you do make a video on this, a great game to study in the mmo fps genre would be Division and Division two. Division two had really good promise pre-release but they shot themselves in the foot with the pvp/dark zone sizes and limited interaction amongst players. It was still an amazing type of game with indepth mechanics for a gun mmo.
Riot is absolutely clueless about how to do their jobs, they can't even finish one mmo, they layoff a shit ton of their employees, then proceed to start a brand NEW mmo that probably wont come out for 20 years. They need to get their shit together
I feel like the signs point a lot more towards a looter shooter shooter like borderlands. It is kind of a big assumption to say it will be an mmo just cause one job listing mentioned mmo along a whole slew of other genres. Developers are intentionally vague like that, all the mmo tag really reveals is that it is multiplayer
I imagine someone else might have said it but Planetside 2 is basically the only massively multiplayer shooter that isn’t a br. (That also doesn’t work on a match que system)
Destiny this, Destiny that. Warframe is a thing Necrit :( Please play it and do lore videos, it has ab insanely good story with lots of speculations regarding the future which I'm sure you'd love.
I remember the Valorant beta and release phase back then, it was ever since the most talked about shooter. They nailed it from game to soundtrack and even cinematics
They did finally add a group finder, but the groups you find are full of toxicity and they kick you from the party before getting the raid loot at the end
To me this seems like they are trying to get Supervive/Project Loki out of the market. Supervive/Project Loki is made by Theorycraft studio, a bunch of senior developers that left Riot Games to create their own studio. Supervive is a game that combines FPS, moba features with battleroyal. So it looks very similar in terms of development specifications.
haven't finished the vid yet but wanted to mention that some kinda Riot Gacha would go so hard. Whales would be all over it, and there are some "Shooter" elements in recent Gachas but I wouldn't call it FPS
10:06 I agree on Valorant dominating League on some countries. I currently live on one and though I love to comeback playing League PC, I just can't cause the queue times for Gold takes around 15 mins and I can't handle that. I'm stuck playing Wild Rift instead and currently learning how to play Valorant (it's a hard game. one peek u dead)
i would love for you to take a look at destiny 2 so that you can vocalise some of the aspects that us destiny players love so much, it would be great to help connect the valorant and lol people on what this type of game may be like and give good content for you. there are also many destiny people who are very willing to help new players through everything and the game is a lot better now except it has ended pretty much.
im scared cause after seeing the bungie situation and how the spread themselves thin resulting in financial problems and back to back layoffs i hope riot does end up doing the same, the needa keep doing 1 by 1 know ittl take long but its safer
I personally would love to play an action RPG based on Runeterra and LoL characters. The gameplay from the beginning of the video looked awesome. Imagine that with more characters
I hope they won't cut fundings from the League MMO. Developing multiple massive games at the same time is very expensive and risky.
They cant even finish one💀
riot has adhd
@@LabRatz-Ivor just like me fr
I guess the valorant mmo is more of a destiny like then it makes way more sense. It wouldnt be that much of a big project.
Adhd riot does one thing good, and that is releasing great music alongside good games, I have faith in their music team for these unpublished games
Im so excited to be playing this game when im like 35 with a wife, two children and a job that requires all my time😍
Wait that's me right now....
@@Kakuren by the time this game comes out, you'll retire and will have all the time in the world
@@Permafrost1probably 6ft under
@@yuyah7413 XDDDDDDDDDD
A japanese women was able to spend 5k hours playing monster hunter while having childrens if she could find a way you can too
I am afraid that i will not be alive when runetera MMO is out (-_-;)・・・
Make a daughter and name her Runeterra... at age of 18 when game will release she will be like: Thats my name!
Me when waiting for Hytale
I see "MMO" and "Riot" together on the video's name, i click.
Riot capitalizing on the implosion of Bungie to make a new FPS mmo rpg
First descendant.
@@ryuvereignnolife3980 "FPS"
@@ryuvereignnolife3980HAHAHAHA that game is shit
Warframe wins by smoking the most insane ZAZA out there
@@ryuvereignnolife3980 its 3rd person. destiny will always feel the best due to it's first person gunplay, which riot can maybe beat?
wa..wat... HOW?
I... thought we just said the teams were spread too thin....Now we have the teams for a VAL MMO? Did riot forget about the Runeterra one?.... Are we still alive bois?.....
The Val MMO was in the works for ages (Job postings for it were found over a year ago at this point)
I think the valo mmo is more going to be a destiny like. So it should be way more managable.
@@gamesbyzeta1434 a year ago in game development is relatively young bro
@@sasato8966 I mean, yes you are correct. But that's just the earliest we as outsiders noticed it. It's very possible it was around another year or two before that.
Wdym "thin"? Have you even read the reason for those layoffs? It literally happened because they wanted to focus more on their main games.
Just a heads up: Destiny 2 added a super robust in-game group finder last year. It supports all activities and has in-game voice and text chat.
The price points, however, are a huge block from getting people into the game.
i think destiny 3 being cancelled, the ceo being a fraud, more layoffs, killed the game
@@cinnoee Apparently D3 being in development is actually misinformation actually but they had a 3rd person spin off in development apparently
@@cinnoee there was never a Destiny 3, but there were plans of a Genshin-styled game that never started active development before being scrapped about 2 months ago.
@@cinnoeehow is he a fraud?
It doesnt seem that necrit knows what warframe is.
Yeah, I was noticing this for a while now lol
Warframe isnt even popular lol.
The guy has a family ofc he wouldnt know other games, hes been occupied in the riot brands unless people pester him....
@@Diopside. Warframe is quite popular and has cemented itself as a top looter-shooter mmo with a fairly active community. It isn't a Valorant level shooter and it isn't a WoW level mmo, but it's very solid and quite popular
@@Diopside.Warframe is popular and has an extremely loyal fanbase. Plus steady update schedule and new content. Something many big mmos struggle with.
the teaser for Necrit Season 2 just dropped
So basically, a competitor to Warframe and Destiny 2. Also for people who prefer action shooters MMOs rather than fantasy RPGs
destiny 2 wont compare
@@cinnoee True they don't really try so this is an ez dub
Destiny 2 is an mmolite not an mmo. Has the gaming elements (raids, social space, guilds, etc) of an mmo minus the mass amount of players in an instance
Riot really like all devs out there, always starting side projects without finishing the previous one lmao
No, that's only Riot and Valve.
What? Any examples of this?
thwy are gonna pull a bungie
I don't think this is a bad thing tbh. Especially as Valorant doesn't need a lot of devs right now and having all your eggs in one basket is a terrible idea
They're different teams for sure
“I don’t even know what expansion to buy to play the game” hit so hard 😂
In regards to the "triple A game does not mean a lot", they probably are asking for it not because they did something of quality, but that they were able to work in the AAA enviroment and developed or understood some of the skills necessary (teamwork, management bureocracy aspects) to operate under the AAA work pipeline instead of a more indie game or solo-dev work experience.
They fixed group finder but not until Lightfall which dropped in February 2023. 6 years after the game dropped.
Hook Em
14:00 They took like 9 years but they now have a in-game lfg so thats something i guess
To confirm to you, yes destiny 2 devs have indeed made a group finder for everything, from raids, dungeons activities and even the pvp stuff, but they still have alot of issues passing their story releases to not lose interest. which is the thing dragging it down right now, stories have been doing alright, this last dlc was pretty freaking good, specially with it being the last of the 10 year saga they had made, but when it comes to seasonal stories they struggle to grasp how to deliver it.
was hoping someone would correct this 👍
The D2 segment hit hard T_T... thankfully there is a fully in game group finder, but yeah getting into the game has always been rough since the vaulting of content. Right now especially with the future of the game up in the air, If riot can make a game with gameplay as smooth as Destiny I can see them filling the void current Destiny is making.
coming from Aztecross's video! great stuff! (Btw, Destiny 2 has an LFG system now you can use to find people for raids etc)
*BUT the Destiny LFG system sucks and still has huge issues.
Also Raids probably won’t be fun for Necrit with the LFG since it’s all toxic KWTD or else.
No optional difficulty for raids. Destiny is failure IMO
@EchoDoctrine - Not necessarily true. I play Destiny, and they do have their regular raids & then "Master" versions of each, which are harder. 🤷🏻♀️😏 That might not technically be several different levels of difficulty but... it's something. It's at least a "hardmode" or whatever. What they DO have, that comes with multiple levels of difficulty, are something called "Nightfalls". And those are a LOT of fun.
It's where they take a strike (a 3 player mini raid if you will) and make it the featured strike of the week, by calling it a "Nightfall". In the NF version of the strike, they add additional villains to fight, including ones called Champions, that you need special mods to "stun" so they take more damage etc. And this "Nightfall" DOES come in various difficulty levels, starting with Advanced, then Expert, then Master until... you get to the GrandMaster level, which is the hardest version.
These Nightfalls might not be raids, however they are incredibly popular, and ... they work & FEEL like a mini raid, only just with a 3 person fireteam is all. So the game still has options for folks. And because the playerbase is used to these being the option... none of us feel as thought we are missing out on anything.
To be fair, Destiny isn't an MMO. Not really.
It has MMO-lite qualities about it (raids, dungeons, etc) but it's not quite the same as games like WoW. It's like this weird fusion of FPS/RPG/MMO, and although that is kinda weird, lol, it has worked, for at least 10yrs so far. And it's FPS gunplay feels sooo damn good compared to other games, that it's managed to keep even some of it's most disgruntled players coming back time & again, with every new expansion & dlc, as it's difficult to find THAT level of crispy gunplay elsewhere, trust me.
Their endgame PvP mode (called "Trials") still has fairly decent numbers of people playing & watching it, every weekend. And whenever a new raid in the game drops, Bungie hosts a "World's First" tournament for it, where fireteams (made up of 6 players each), all compete to finish the raid first. Hundreds of thousands of people tune in to watch these tournaments (just in America alone) - even people who don't play the game tune in - all cuz they are legit THAT fun to watch.
The raid they put out for their latest expansion The Final Shape, is absolutely f*cking bonkers. lol In a 48hr tournament window... only ONE team was able to beat it within a 24hr window. Almost didn't make it. The 2nd best team couldn' beat it for another 5 hours after that. It's the most difficult raid the game had ever dropped. One encounter alone took the winning team 8hrs to figure out. It was madness. Destiny ain't dead yet guys. 👊🏽😉 Not yet. lol
@@KabbalahSherry having a raid that only ONE team can beat & takes over 24 hrs…. Maybe that’s good for twitch viewership & people say “wow that’s crazy”. BUT then those people’s next words are probably “wow I could never do that, that’s gotta be so hard, only one team … hmmm maybe this game isn’t for me”
That’s my point. Destiny lacks entry mechanics and it always has. Might be cool for community to brag “we have hardest thing ever” BUT that might push potential casual players away from buying, trying, playing product repeatedly. Lots of gamers want to play things that are fun & easy during their free-time NOT play something extremely difficult that’s as hard as a job.
Maybe.
Just my thoughts, I’ve heard destiny isn’t doing so hot now, I saw that big streamer Grenade Jake tweeted the trials thing has its lowest player counts ever.
But good luck.
Hope it works out.
Personally I hope for lots more games. Competition can often makes games better. 😉
@@KabbalahSherry D2 very much is dead. Former multi-seasonal trials 0.1% player here, trials of Osiris is entirely dead so idk where you’re getting your info about the player count being decent still as it’s been dropping ever since season 14. The only thing that sustains D2 are the day 1 contest raids, other than that, Bungie continues to make awful decision after decision in response to the overall state of the game which we can discuss if you want the specifics, but to name one, Eververse transactions.
Don’t oversell the LFG system. It is only decent in the sense of how it has been implemented UI/functionality wise, but 9/10 the players who use this system are a lot of the time extremely bad at the game. The commonly known D2 LFG disc offers a lot more ease of access in getting a group up with comms very easily and that is where the actual above-average+ playerbase resides
NFs being mini raids? Huh? 💀 I presume you’re on about dungeons here?? Also, I am going to presume you’re new to the game as well as the fact you’re saying they’re fun, as they’re not if you’re having to do the same strike over and over again each season, which most people if they’re not even gilding their conqueror title will do the same repetitive strike on GM for an extremely easy farm…
Kinda tired of seeing people defend the state of the game when it’s a complete joke and in such a state. Bungie needs to reevaluate their priorities and where they lie within this IP and only then should we as consumers recommend and introduce people to the game
Raid difficulty can’t be changed unless it’s that specific raid’s in the weekly rotation btw.
Nowadays, Destiny 2 has a fireteam finder system, and it works great. It's not the best to find people to bond with, but if you're just looking to put together a group and jump into ANY activity, you can create or join a post with specific tags, like "beginner"/"sherpa" or "experienced"/"fast clear".
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14:01
As of now, D2 added a full lfg system last year, and has had voice chat for a while now.
I also never did raids, but since they added the new system I have been able to play a few.
The real issue with D2 is slow content cycle and poor monetization
What if Project T is the Name of the Runeterra MMO at the moment? Maybe they want to make it First Person and have a marksman class. It seems unlikely to that they are working on two differnt MMOs. Thats my opinion on that :)
Or they make a differnt type of shooter game. Valorant with open world sounds weird just running around in a giant city or what would that look like?
Project T is not the runeterra MMO, they have different teams working on it and different job applications.
the runttera mmo is called Project M, and entire team was complete years ago. so no. riot no longer hiring people for Project M
@anschi No.
@@nanopix5305 ah ok, I'm don't know enough about the teams thanks for letting me know. But i still think that Riot wont take that big of a risk by making two MMOs. Maybe the Project T is something different. But lets wait for more infos :)
You should make more videos about Valorant's lore! You talk a lot about pretty much every Riot game except for Valorant (which yeah, I understand that it's because it's a whole different universe, but still!) and as someone who's never played it or is familiar with the lore, I'd like to know more about its universe, and what better place to start with than your channel? :D
XD here we go again
Can't wait for the soft cancellation announcement like they did with the lol mmo
@@alexwindy3 soft cancelation in your imagination plz keep it for yourself
😂😂
I saw a very similar video like this a year ago from Necrit lol 😂😂
They did fix the issue of finding a public group for a raid in Destiny 2 as far as I know! Haven't tried it myself yet but I've heard from a friend it's way easier to do raids with strangers now.
14:13 I mean now they did fix these issues.
But probably a little to late for a lot of people
I would love to have Necrit explain the lore of Valorant. I really loves how he write scripts & deliverance.
I've watched some Valorant lore video, and most of them have those kind of intense deliverance ...
I am ready for necrit to go wild and explain how valorant lore can support an mmo universe!! 🙏🙏
I really hope they make another game like Ruined King. That game was so fun. I know It'll probably never happen, but a new story and characters in that style game would be hype for me.
The bald king is coming to react
to be far they did fix the finder issue however the answer is all of them... you need all the dlc...
Mixed feeling about this... i'm still hoping for some Runeterra MMO
3:10 now that is one new harbour for those at bungie
Warframe is definitely another competitor in this market
Warframe is the god in this market :D
Feels like Necrit totally forgot about Warframe
Not really.
Warframe isnt really a FPS shooter - rather a horde shooter where u just nuke everything with abilities and AOE spam, single target guns like snipers are useless (only exceptions being Eidolons which have been abandoned by DE ( WF devs) for many years now)
@@Dollt28 Snipers ain't good in D2 bar boss fights either.
its insane to be making 2 mmo's at the same time. But @Necrit I play Valorant and I really dont know what kinds of classes you can make and what kinds of abilities and stuff you can have. I would love if you made a video about it (no joke!)
14:20 most of the early issues have changed, there is an in-game group finder now for instance
After what? 9 years of existing?XD
They arent agruably the first to break the movie curse, when the Sonic movie came out to pretty great success a year before.
As for fighting games, ever played newer fighting games? They all go into easier controlls for years now, riot is just following the trend here.
The "curse" has been broken even before that, especially when counting animation and series instead of solely live-action movies.
It's wild to assume Arcane was the first and disregard the successes becuase of some failures. A more accurate title would be as one of the most acclaimed and successful adaptations, standing alongside others who came before.
all of this just works.
edit; calling it now, looter shooter set in Valorant that possibly tries to yoink warframe's modding system. y'know, because it's really good, but i severely doubt it'll beat out DE.
They could definitely beat DE lmao. Riot legit specailizes in taking what already exists and making it better xD. They aren't very original but boy can they do some damn innovation lol.
They said before that we look at the genre and its community, see what they like and what they would love to see, and then we deliver that. So yeah, if any system is good and players love it, you should expect to see it in their game.
@@skylerfreeman1173 People said that about LoR beating HS, yet the game is now on life support. Riot is good, but don't act like they can't fail
I actually hope it's more like D2 than Warframe. I mean class based shooter and first person. I wouldn't mind mods in a first person setting. As long as I can get one of Gekkos buddies as a pet
@@liqiye3611 For looter shooter players I think it'll be more high quality consistent updates and an actual endgame. A company that doesn't under deliver and give the bare minimum would be an excellent start
Whenever I watch Necrit talk about Riot's mmo, I always picture a Riot's executive watching Necrit's video and writing down notes
Cant wait for the asmongold reaction on this one
As a consistent Valorant player i'd much rather play a Runeterra mmo, so I hope they don't quit developement
Dotas dragon blood came first FYI
Is it a success?
@@randombluet-shirtguy2387 It got multiple seasons on netflix, so it must have done good.
An update for anyone interested in Destiny, they have raid finder and group finder now, u dont have to make a pre built. In terms of coms there's always been text chat available and you can use mic as well.
Wait.... are they trying to fill the spot that is technically being left open by Destiny?
I think there is a potential 10 min Video on why Necrit is wearing this Hoody
the mmofps game Planetside 2 not mentioned smh my head
I fear Riot just named every game idea alphabetically....
14:30 they did give us the party finder btw. With alot of prob surrounding it, but the do have one
Destiny 2??? What is with Warframe???
So not only should you make videos about the Valorant MMO, but I'd also LOVE some Valorant lore videos. It might even get me back into the game 👀
It's funny how at this point Riot is practically the Devil, observing from afar the suffering and dissatisfaction of players with each type of current games and then offering an "offer of something better"
Riot's logistics and marketing group is one of the craftiest things fr lmao 💀
There is a chance that the game will be similar to Planetside 2 (with way more features I imagine), which eliminates the LFG problem altogether.
Runeterra Division would be fucking tight.
Holy fuck don't say things like this Ill get my hopes up
well there is one game that while not an FPS but a TPS has been successful for the past 10+ years and still is kicking hard, Warframe
Sure it's not perfect but they had a lot of time to cook, i hope riot can catch up
Im curious if Riot would get some inspiration from Warframe stuff
I hope we get pets. The bear from Deadlocks trailer would be such a cool boss too.
I am SO TIRED of games having set characters in MMOs, i hope they don't do that
Warframe is the only one that makes it work tho
You know when they cut Riot Forge to focus inward it only kinda made sense to me. But if they're juggling 2 massive projects internally like we're speculating, that decision makes sense and lines up really well timeline wise.
Riot: Mentions 1 word about a project
Necrit: OHHH BOYYYY OK, YOU SEE THIS IS BIG AND HUGE AND ANOTHER MMO!!!! :D
Riot:
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yup exactly, dude is off yapping over one job posting and going off with speculations and creating wild fantasies in his head.
@@voidox yeah, but for me, it's funny, I dont hate him for that 😆
Thinking about the Overwatch 2 players which was promised a PvE Mode, not getting anything could even get these players in the FPS MMO from Riot Games. There is much potential in this genre.
Unreal glazing 💀
I swear they bought him off after his tirade about league getting no new content. Suddenly riot could do no wrong in his eyes.
@@BoneWalker I mean he got to go to their headquarters and see a bunch of shit. Definitely a bit of you scratch my back I'll scratch yours, but he also got to see a bunch of stuff he can't talk about. So I imagine that probably changed his mind about the 'no new content.'
Of you check "League of legends" and "lol" you will see that the graphs are perfectly parallel, meaning that people search both terms and of you add them together you will see the real "league of legends graph" which is way higher than Valorant's at all times, although still Valorant's graph of higher than Destiny 2's and Warframe's combined
You may wanna do research before you speak about things you don't know. All those social features you said Destiny doesn't have well they do and have had them for over a year.
If you do make a video on this, a great game to study in the mmo fps genre would be Division and Division two. Division two had really good promise pre-release but they shot themselves in the foot with the pvp/dark zone sizes and limited interaction amongst players. It was still an amazing type of game with indepth mechanics for a gun mmo.
Riot is absolutely clueless about how to do their jobs, they can't even finish one mmo, they layoff a shit ton of their employees, then proceed to start a brand NEW mmo that probably wont come out for 20 years. They need to get their shit together
Riot games casually declaring war on all video game genres.
7:47 I think you mispronnunced Warframe
13:18 I was listening in the background as i worked and the missheard "getting lewd is kinda fun" which made me do a double take
7:44 any opinions on Warframe?
Their updates are better and bigger than paid dlc's in some games, and it is mmo rpg with guns, aiming and mobility
Destiny currently has a group finder for raids within the game itself, and it has always been possible to recruit people from the game application.
7:42 Warframe was the correct answer
Warframe is 3rd person not a first person shooter…….
They're probably building their own version of destany
Now i understand why they did the lay off, can't have two big teams working on two mmo we need small teams instead
Im ready for the valorant mmo lore video
I feel like the signs point a lot more towards a looter shooter shooter like borderlands. It is kind of a big assumption to say it will be an mmo just cause one job listing mentioned mmo along a whole slew of other genres. Developers are intentionally vague like that, all the mmo tag really reveals is that it is multiplayer
I imagine someone else might have said it but Planetside 2 is basically the only massively multiplayer shooter that isn’t a br. (That also doesn’t work on a match que system)
11:40 SENTINELS ARE NOT SUPPORT THEY ARE MEANT TO STOP ENEMIES it hurt my ears so much
Destiny this, Destiny that.
Warframe is a thing Necrit :(
Please play it and do lore videos, it has ab insanely good story with lots of speculations regarding the future which I'm sure you'd love.
I remember the Valorant beta and release phase back then, it was ever since the most talked about shooter. They nailed it from game to soundtrack and even cinematics
Please DO make videos on this ! I've watched your League lore videos but now you've intrigued me about the lore of Valoran !
They did finally add a group finder, but the groups you find are full of toxicity and they kick you from the party before getting the raid loot at the end
I would love to see a round 2 of the mmo videos haha. You could even release them with the same titles and in the same order!
Imagine they make something like Gun Gale from SAO!!!
I'm ready for Necrit to make 8 videos from this
To me this seems like they are trying to get Supervive/Project Loki out of the market.
Supervive/Project Loki is made by Theorycraft studio, a bunch of senior developers that left Riot Games to create their own studio.
Supervive is a game that combines FPS, moba features with battleroyal. So it looks very similar in terms of development specifications.
We'll get this one after GTA VII releases.
Necrit, where did you get that AWESOME HOODIE? the little nail in the zipper oh my god.
They should work on a 3rd person open world rpg with expansions and character stories you can follow for the different legends
the way my excitement built up gradually !!!!!
If Riot makes an FPSMMO/Lite and it’s not as pricey as D2 and feels as good to play I’m jumping ship immediatly, 2600 hours in D2 be damned.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have endgame raids with puzzle elements
haven't finished the vid yet but wanted to mention that some kinda Riot Gacha would go so hard. Whales would be all over it, and there are some "Shooter" elements in recent Gachas but I wouldn't call it FPS
I hope it's like the Division but better
10:06 I agree on Valorant dominating League on some countries. I currently live on one and though I love to comeback playing League PC, I just can't cause the queue times for Gold takes around 15 mins and I can't handle that. I'm stuck playing Wild Rift instead and currently learning how to play Valorant (it's a hard game. one peek u dead)
i would love for you to take a look at destiny 2 so that you can vocalise some of the aspects that us destiny players love so much, it would be great to help connect the valorant and lol people on what this type of game may be like and give good content for you. there are also many destiny people who are very willing to help new players through everything and the game is a lot better now except it has ended pretty much.
im scared cause after seeing the bungie situation and how the spread themselves thin resulting in financial problems and back to back layoffs i hope riot does end up doing the same, the needa keep doing 1 by 1 know ittl take long but its safer
no friends for raid
I personally would love to play an action RPG based on Runeterra and LoL characters. The gameplay from the beginning of the video looked awesome. Imagine that with more characters
I'd be very bummed if it isn't in the League universe. League is my favorite IP ever and I'm so tired of team games.
I just realized, this is gonna be a competitor to Deadlock. Dang!
Bit of a stretch but I’m hoping for the possibility of them handling a sort of a first person survival game (Once Human, Rust)