Or Biden because they are on the same team They are selected not elected and the federal reserve desides who is the next president not the people which will be trump according to the plan and they will never make things better and There is no right or left
This vid is just heartless. The one guy mentioned critical race theory? The only party that is saying anything about the way us blacks are murdered here in America is the Democrats. But yall pretend this isn't happening? Really! Are you being serious about which party cares about life? Yall just mention a few things. Nothing about Republicans trying to take healthcare away from the poor. Really?
Yall basically care more about protecting yall comfortable religious freedoms than protecting life. Yall say nothing about how the Republican's treat life. Or how this President lied over and over to the people about this virus. That caused so many lives to be lost. But the one guy brushes that all aside by saying he THINKS the virus is overblown. Over 240,000 dead, but he's going with what he THINKS. Unreal!
I grew up in a moderately Christian/republican home...thank God, the gospel was more heavily emphasized then politics (though, I wish we didn't listen to talk radio as much, looking back)... I remember around the time of the elections of 2008...all the Conservative Talk Radio was making such a big deal about how Obama was going to destroy America and there would be no way that America would elect him... And then, Obama won. I felt so defeated and scared. But then, I noticed something. All the stuff that these Talk Radio people were saying didn't happen. They became nastier and nastier towards anyone who called themselves liberal and as I read the Bible more and more, I found that I couldn't justify the statements that many Republicans and conservative radio hosts were making towards Democrats and Liberals... That was almost 10 years ago...and even within the last 4 years, I have changed... No, I am not a liberal...I still have a lot of conservative type beliefs, but do not consider myself conservative...I am a man without a party...a man without a country...a man who follows God is a man without a country...and there is such freedom there... When Trump began to run, I couldn't believe that people took him seriously...I thought it was a joke. I thought there was no way that people would support him...and then he won...I was surprised by what I saw...so many Christians were rallying around a man who stated during the election that he did not need forgiveness from God...and also suprised by how many of my liberal friends were scared of what would happen. I remember coming into work the day after the election and many of them were in tears at some point of the day. I was a very humbling experience that these people (many whom have felt hurt or neglect by the relgious right) were so scared that they came into work crying... For the last 4 years, I've tried to warm up to Trump...but every time I try to give him a chance, I find myself shaking my head at how further away he is taking us from reality...every year...every month...every week...every day, it seems to get worse... No, he's not hitler...but he's not King David either... I am not saying all this to say that if you're a Christian you shouldn't vote Republican...I am saying that you shouldn't look down at those who are voting Democrat because of what Trump has become and the stain he has left on Christianity in America... Who wants to follow the Christ that the Trump Christians follow? Ask your non-Christian friends, how many of them want to follow Christ if they know you voted for Trump? Ask yourself why that is....it's not because of hatred...it's because there is a disconnect between the words/actions of trump and the bible which he claims to follow and for which many of his followers claim to follow... Also, ask yourself this: Can you separate the Part of Conservatism from the Faith of Christianity? If you cannot find any differences between the two, you need to do some thinking and praying...There is no political system in the world that contains the truth that we find in Christianity...none... If you are so afraid of losing your religious liberties, remember this: the early church THRIVED during times of persecution, because they learned how to cultivate their faith in private and share when the risk was worth it... We Christians in America will never understand that time of thriving...sure, we'll be wealthy and rich in the worldly sense of the word if we vote for Trump...but, we will have lost our soul as a nation... That's my thoughts anyways...
Wow... How did you probe my brain to know exactly what I was thinking? This might be the comment of the year. Too bad this will fall on deaf ears of both the conservative and liberal Christians. They've already chosen their side and continue to make excuses for their clan.
Dude, you're so right. We've become so blinded by patriotism (as if American culture aligns with what Jesus taught *eyeroll*) that true blue Christ following takes a back seat to following a party.
Yeah trump is the world's oldest millennial: truth= his feelings. I just can't get behind the man who makes his own truth on the daily - and for Things which are meaningless: it wasnt the biggest inauguration crowd. And so what if it wasn't? You still won. Looked at a hurricane Track and thought to warn Alabama where it looked like it was going. Well experts knew Alabama would be fine but nope, double down, grab a sharpie.... Just admit a mistake and it's forgotten, anybody dwelling on it would be called out for being petty. And these are the two most Innocuous examples.... It only gets worse from here.
Economics, im With bernie, no reason 10 people should live so lavish while people are starving, people should not die in poverty because they couldn't pay medical bills and a big Corp should not be able to buy an election. Culture im conservative, freedom of speech and religion are very very important and need to be protected, the unborn are human persons, killing them is immoral and we need to work through all possible means to prevent the demand for abortions in addition to pipe dreaming about overturning r v w.
@@simpleenglish1 I am going to copy some points from an article written 2016. Lets see what still fits. 1. He lacks compassion. The Bible says: "As God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience." (Colossians 3:12) On this point, we could cite Mr. Trump's many instances of inflammatory rhetoric against immigrants and Muslims, his record of discriminatory housing practices, his public cruelty to ex-spouses or his sensational and mean-spirited feuds with other celebrities as evidence of his lack of compassion. But consider a recent AP-GfK poll showing that among Republicans, he is largely believed to lack compassion. And bear in mind, these are the people most likely to view him favorably. Many of those voters polled expressed this was not a concern. But for Christians, an unrepentant lack of compassion suggests that the man does not seek to please God or lead according to His will. 2. He appeals to fear and anger. The Bible says: "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear; for fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not reached perfection in love."(1 John 4:18) The Bible says: "But I say to you that if you are angry with a brother or sister, you will be liable to judgment; and if you insult a brother or sister, you will be liable to the council; and if you say, 'You fool,' you will be liable to the hell of fire." (Matthew 5: 22) 3. He is enamored with "greatness" and ego, but has no concern for "goodness" or service. The Bible says: "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. Blessed are the merciful, for they will receive mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God." (Matthew 5: 5-8) In The Narcissist Next Door, author Jeffrey Kluger suggests Trump is a classic narcissist. Some might say that running for office encourages this sort of thing. But narcissism might be the most dangerous condition for a Christian - without humility and self-effacement, we are incapable of modeling Jesus' behavior, we allow no space for the Holy Spirit to bless our relationships, and we are unable to receive or revel in the goodness of God. Ask yourself the last time you saw a public expression of humility from Mr. Trump. 4. He lies - a lot. The Bible says: "Beware then of useless grumbling, and keep your tongue from slander; because no secret word is without result, and a lying mouth destroys the soul." (Wisdom 1:11) 6. He speaks about his daughter in a disrespectful and sexualized way. The Bible says: "Do you have daughters? Be concerned for their chastity, and do not show yourself too indulgent with them." (Sirach 7:24) In a 2006 interview with Rolling Stone, when asked about the idea of his daughter posing for Playboy, Trump replied, “I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” For a self-identified Presbyterian, such a statement is hard to square with Calvinist sexual ethics. 7. He does not attempt to love his enemies, but instead cultivates antagonism. The Bible says: "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous." (Matthew 5:43-48) 9. He doesn’t seem to care about the poor. The Bible says: "Jesus said to him, 'If you wish to be perfect, go, sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.'" (Matthew 19:21) This is the article I took all of this from. www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2016/11/06/10-reasons-you-cant-be-a-christian-and-vote-for-donald-trump/ Lets add to this. ‘Tsunami of untruths’: Trump has made 20,000 false or misleading claims - report www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/13/donald-trump-20000-false-or-misleading-claims He is also racist. www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history Is that enough or would you like me to find more examples of un-Christian behaviour? One last thing. This is a quote from him *"I like to be good. I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness. And I am good. I don't do a lot of things that are bad. I try to do nothing that is bad."* Tell me, is that Christian attitude or no? www.businessinsider.com/trump-on-god-i-dont-like-to-have-to-ask-for-forgiveness-2016-1?r=US&IR=T
Politics is just the way of articulating how the government should rule and what morality should be enforced vs not enforced. There's nothing demonic about it. And we absolutely are supposed to divide when it comes to major issues. The trouble comes when we divide over minor ones.
He is the only president to approve of gay marriage upon entering office. Obama and Hilary disapproved and then changed their tune later while in power
"Just about every election is a choice between a known witch and a suspected devil" 😂 Ah, good ol' Norm. I'm sure he's still giving laughs in Heaven now.
After all, the Word does does describe satan as 'god of this world'. However, we must not confuse humans with demons. Christ died for our sins, therefore we can be redeemed. Demons are beyond redemption.
Agreed. The framers of our constitution did a fantastic job in most areas. But this one area is an epic fail. Other systems make third, or fourth parties viable. Our system will eventually devolve into a one party system. Actually, it already did during the early 2000's. Both parties said the same liberal garbage. Trump gave us a conservative party again. Hopefully, that's the one that will take over permanently in a few years. But we will see.
This might sound cavalier but in my eyes, the gospel is not dependent on who is in power. Honestly, when looking at church history, true Christianity thrives under persecution and during prosperous times, the church is quite lackadaisical. A compromised church is probably why we're in this position and having this conversation. I'm certainly not a proponent of Marxism, abortion, LGBTQ, etc. but I can tell you this without hesitation, a republic or democracy is not a Godly form of government. Having said that, I know we will never go back to a Theocracy (Kingdom where God is King) and since we won't, the only direction to head is down. I hear more "Christians" talking politics than I hear them preaching Jesus. Even with a republican presidency, this country has deteriorated and it will continue to deteriorate no matter who is in office. Will it deteriorate faster with a democratic presidency? Most likely, yes. But if you believe in your country so much then you believe in the checks and balances that are in place and you have nothing to worry about. Reality is, better get your life right, priorities on God, preach the Word of God, and save the lost. Go a few nights without Fox News/CNN and replace that time with God's Word. Seek His face and see real change. Thanks guys. God bless.
So your perspective is, let people suffer and intentionally make things worse because it will never be perfect? That's actually evil, what you just said.
Need to be careful with this reasoning though. Hitler made the trains run on time. Evidently that was a big deal... But combined with the rest it was a bad deal
If consevatives wanted to change Roe v Wade, they could have done so in the 90s when they had 7 or so judges. Plus changing Roe does not make abortion illegal except in states that choose to do so. Abortion was higher before Roe than it is today thanks to increased access to healthcare and contraceptives. Both parties benefit by politicizing this issue. Most Americans have no idea what Marxism is if they think the Democratic party is Marxist.
Character is more important than policy. Because character will be what makes decisions. If someone has a good character then their policy will be just and fair. Trump has a low and selfish character and is using religious people to get votes. Men like him use people who are gullible and take advantage of them for votes and then when they get those votes and become president their character is what’s making decisions…please look at a persons character and not what they tell you they stand for. Character is extremely important when voting for someone who will make important decisions!
What does light have to do with darkness? how can you claim you love Jesus Christ and support people that walk with the devil that push ideologies and agendas of the devil do not realize it's the Democrat ideologies that led to the persecution of Christians. The Democratic party is a party of vile ideologies socialism communism which are all Antichrist in spirit There's no way you can love Jesus and vote Democrat and everything about the Democratic party is satanic which is why they are supported by Satanist luciferians occultist all manner of people that practice evil things all matter of perverts support the Democratic party because it is the party of rebellion to God
This is 3 years old and nothing has changed. Concerned about “their stance on life”, “Marxism”, etc. Please look at Trump’s positive opinion on Putin and other autocrats. CRT etc. is not anti Bible.
Frank did point out that sometimes it’s about choosing who is less worse. I’m not a Trump fan, but is Kamala less worse? Based on what Biden has done, I’d say Trump is less worse. What would Kamala implement aside from the no tax on tips that she just so happened to be for it after Trump decided he’s for it
@@Rayne35 I have looked at his record. Isn’t it the least bit fishy that he supposedly has all these “felonies”, but didn’t before his presidency. Are these people going after the crime or the person? I can tell you that the economy and the situation at the border was MUCH better under Trump than it was with Biden. Harris, on The View, said she wouldn’t have done anything differently. So, who am I to think, or anyone else for that matter, that she would be any different than Biden?
@@mauriceb53 so IF SATAN has a good book for you to read or wants your vote then its OK because he has good stuff? CRAZY if you ask me ,it tosses OUT all Jesus words
I don't see how you can be a Christian and vote for the party that encourages homosexuality, transgenderism, abortion, and dividing people by race, gender, and income. Not to mention that the Democrat party mocks Biblical values and removed God from their platform.
Just an FYI, Donald Trump is not anti-gay or pro-life. And more than 90% of black Christians vote Democrat. They’re more concerned about progress for their own rights than worrying about unborn babies and people’s sex lives.
I get the hesitation of Christians to vote for Democrats, and I obviously disagree with the culture stuff from the left. But I would argue this. Think of how America was founded. Ben Franklin, George Washington and Nathaniel Greene were all important to the Revolution, but played different roles. Franklin was a great negotiator and statesmen, Washington was a great leader, but was often outmaneuvered on the battlefield and Greene was more of a tactician on the battlefield. Washington ultimately became President, but all 3 were important in different roles. I think you can have a Democratic leader, who does a good job of following the duty of President, but may be someone you disagree with while voting for conservative lawmakers who better represent biblical values. I don't think it's a Republican only choice for those who follow the Lord.
@Vienna107 You just said a whole bunch of nothing. Tactics on the battlefield is not the same as a president that would be more than happy to sign into law anti-christ policies (Obama, Joe biden). 2 john 10-11; "10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." The bible talks about supporting those who support sin. Just supporting sin is sin. when you vote for a candidate, you vote for his policies. When his policies of trangenderism take effect into law, all those who voted for him have sin on their hands.
@@kuntakinte1416 I respectfully disagree. If that were the case, Christians should never bother voting, because we all fall short of God's standard. I'm an independent voter, but feel like Trump panders to Christians and that too many Christians idolize him, which to me is heavily concerning. Even though Obama didn't really align with Christianity, I believe abortion rates dropped under him. God can use any leader to promote society
All people make their own truth! Ok? You are not God, you are not right all the time... neither is Trump, but the question is who is worst: Trump or Biden:?
@@anaarkadievna all people make their own lies? Not ok. Plus claiming you or I make up as much as you know who is like comparing a moll hill to a mountain
If consevatives wanted to change Roe v Wade, they could have done so in the 90s when they had 7 or so judges. Plus changing Roe does not make abortion illegal except in states that choose to do so. Abortion was higher before Roe than it is today thanks to increased access to healthcare and contraceptives. Both parties benefit by politicizing this issue
@@antifamember8431 That is very true, but the Christians used them to get Roe v. Wade overturned, as it should have been done long ago. However the slaughter will continue; have no fear. So long as men have no respect for women and sexual immorality is routine, indignity and death will abound in the name of 'liberty'. 'Doctors' will continue to profit from the execution of innocents. What ought to recognized is the vital role a welfare State must play in protecting life. When men run away from their responsibility, the State may have to intervene with income supports for abandoned women. Both Republicans and Democrats will have to swallow hard to arrive at a just solution. Someone will have to pay.
Jared Dixon opressed really?? Im hispanic and I dont feel opressed get out of that victim mentally you want something you have to earn it......we live in a country where you can make as much money you want have 2 jobs etc etc.... some if the wealthiest minorities in USA are Asians
@@monicamuniz2869 Amen, I’m black and I’m not oppressed. Yet, Jared expects to prey upon our emotions and manipulate us to vote as his moral superiority deems right. Are we to be enslaved, again? Uggh!
@@monicamuniz2869 hey Monica. I just watched this. Please take a close listen and share. Our brother got ahold of a zoom call between the founder of BLM and a Cal State professor who is the head of the Los Angeles BLM chapter. They reveal the true agenda of BLM. It’s not simply a hashtag as you and I already know. They want a radical spiritual movement. Marx was a pagan satanist. When BLM says to “say their name”. These woman describe what the true intention is in that statement. It is to summon spirits. th-cam.com/video/jvE_su40aQ0/w-d-xo.html 9 "When you enter the land which the LORD your God gives you, you shall not learn to imitate the detestable things of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For whoever does these things is detestable to the LORD; and because of these detestable things the LORD your God will drive them out before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the LORD your God. 14 For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do so. (Deuteronomy 18:9, NASB)
Abortion is wrong but so is our obsession with abortion laws. Our only focus should be bringing women and men to Jesus. Rather than pushing people away from God. Non Christians do not have the Holy Spirit convicting them. Once they truly know Jesus they will not need an abortion regardless of what the abortion laws are.
The Republicans are not the least worst choice all the time. Also, who ever you vote for Christian's should not ignore sin no matter what party they vote for. Also, Republicans don't seem to care must about life or minorities.
We no longer have a Republican party as we knew it. Irregardless of "party", or even policy, would a Christian vote for Hitler or Mussolini ? We are in an extreme situation like never before . I hope we can seriously reflect on that.
Neither Hitler nor Mussolini pressured other nations to stop the persecution of Christians or risk losing foreign aid. Neither of those men fought to protect the rights of the unborn and religious freedom. Of course, you may say, the unborn are important, but there are so many other important issues! Over 60 million lives have been ended by the institution of abortion. I hope we can seriously reflect on that. The proper analogy would be to picture yourself as a Christian in in US in 1860 and ask yourself, would I vote Lincoln or Breckinridge? The news of the time made Lincoln out to be a corrupt, inept, crude, and inexperienced fellow. Was he the wrong choice because of the lies spoken of him? You know, many Christians of the time voted for Breckinridge. They voted for and took up weapons to kill to keep their property, or better understood, their slaves. Let us put today's election in its proper context.
@@Acrosurge so if hitler and Mussolini fought for unborn babies and fight for Christian institutions whilst being who we know they are and did what they did You will vote for them WOW!! You have some up the whole problem voting for Trump as a Christian
Thisladyisstrange stop with parroting the right wing fascist BS lines. A fascist dictatorship is where the trump regime is taking America down the path of.
@@nancejo had to Google that word but handily sophistry is literally everything they were saying, coz seriously they were spouting proper fear mongering nonsense, to a near comedic extent. Whoever wins abortion will keep happening. But if ya'll vote democrat then you might have a chance at improving people's lives which is the best way to limit the chance of abortion.
@@kaiwilliams141 Because it is killing human life. I can't support that unless there is an overwhelming reason such as the life of the mother is endanger. Otherwise, it is evil.
But you can't always tell what his policies will be on the basis of what he says they will be. What if the candidate is a woman? Then you will have to consider her policies. Deborah was a judge of Israel, and Israel's top general Barak would not go into battle without her. Perhaps you know the story.
Don't know why this is showing up in my feed 4 years later but, since it is, I'll weigh in. I don't mind saying that politics is important. I DO mind the argument that politics impacts our ability to live out the Gospel. Frank says, "You can't have this conversation in China!" You absolutely can have it and Christians DO have Gospel conversations in China. You just can't do it comfortably and without risk. American Christians are married to their comfort. Painting the situation as if the Church would fail without Republicans is about as anti-Biblical as a position can be.
It seems to me the question is not about keeping Christian policies or even upholding our Christian rights, but what culture do we need to live in, in order that more people would become Christians. You bring up China.... the fastest growing Christian population in the world.
I have a real problem with two things here. One, all the criticism of Trump is his personal life, when it's his _policies_ that should matter. Two, we keep talking about Republican vs Democrat, when in reality Trump is the best choice because he's so unlike most everyone else in both parties. He IS the independent we will never get.
I give Frank an A for attempting to turn this in to a platform question. Here is where his logic fails miserably. Platforms have never been anything more than words used as a sales job to cobble together constituency groups and have never been lived up to, not in my or my husbands 60+ years. Trump, when the heck has he ever listen to the words of others. Nope it's his actions that we are to use as a guide. One would have to be either gullible or naïve to think the Republican platform would be followed by Trump. Good attempt Frank to turn this away from the person of Trump.
Satan has the trump regime firmly in the palm of his hand. No Christian should support the evil trump cult trump wanting to turn USA into a fascist dictatorship and evangelical leadership look the other way.
What part of the Republican Party Platform did Trump ignore that you think he shouldn't have? Maybe the part put into the platform by the establishment types who are war mongers? Trump got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize on 3 separate occasions, but you think we'd be better off with war mongers in charge? And what part of the Democrat Party Platform isn't anti-biblical?
This aged terribly, fake Christians voting democrats. Im not voting for a pastor just a president to do his job not as a spiritual leader but someone who can affect our ability to live out our faith freely.
A true believer should vote based on conviction. What the person's political affiliation is that you are voting for means absolutely NOTHING in comparison to the policies they support. If their policies are immoral, wicked, and glorifies sin then a TRUE believer should NOT vote for the individual whether Democrat or Republican. #unapologeticallyChristian
The Pastors fail the flock by not teaching the platforms of these parties. But at the end of the day, As a Christian it shouldn't be that difficult a decision if you know the heart of God.
If anyone does you have the right ro speak. I'm neither black nor American, but I recognize the tremendous role which churches have long played in African-American communities. I am impressed by how churches surround bereaved families when there has been a miscarriage of justice. When I see African-American political leaders on TV (CNN mostly), I see some paying lip-service to the Church and the Christian faith, but only briefly. Do you think that the Social Gospel has been stressed and the message of salvation suppressed? Just wondering. Philosophically the Social Gospel is far superior to Neo-Marxism, but without the power of the Spirit one is reduced to 'doing good deeds'. The salt loses its saltiness.
@@marcusonesimus3400 Yes absolutely I believe the Social gospel has been stressed and the message of salvation repressed. You are correct that without the spirit one is reduced to good deeds. Man is not saved by good deeds but by the grace as a result of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Anyone who genuinely repents and puts their faith and trust in Jesus Christ will be saved.
I support Bernie in 2016 and 2020 primaries and the Democratic nominee in both general elections BECAUSE of Christ and his example and command to love your neighbour. The hatred, violence, discrimination, illness, suffering and death pushed by the GOP is exact opposite of everything Jesus did and taught. The fact that evangelicals are tied so tightly to the GOP makes society see Christianity as not something to be taken seriously. Why are you guys obsessed with hurting people&opposing empathy ? As said in this video, politics affects ability to preach the gospel,yes, conservatives are pushing people away in droves. “ there’s no hatred quite like Christian love“ “ I like your Christ, I don’t like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ“ are widely known and used phrases in society BECAUSE of this. It becomes apparent what the true priorities are for evangelicals. You blatantly& explicitly pushed hatred in this video and didn’t even try to be subtle or beat around the bush!🤯 this is why USA is becoming less Christian. If you want to push the country away from Christianity, keep up the attitude in this video.
@K H Yea, thats pretty much were im at. Feeding the poor to help them get back on there feet is one thing, but a system that keeps them FROM getting on there feet is another. There are some definite issues in the healthcare system, namely with insurance. But its hard to shoot down the US healthcare system when the rest of the world flocks too it for major surgery. Gender Identity is science... there are only 2 unless a very rare mutation has occurred in the DNA.... Dont even wanna get started on abortion...... so sad
@@JohnnyAnderson1 what are you on about? Rest of the world does not flock the the US "healthcare". Rest of the (developed) world looks at your private insurance system and either laughs or shakes their head.
yndsu I’ve known several people from other country’s have no other choice but to come to the US for special procedures. But I will agree I don’t recall them being from a highly developed country.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Just google which could country has the best health care system See where America is ranked I bet you will make some excuses that the rankings is bias.
I love our beloved President Trump if he only knew what this man has done for this country take your opinions and get on your knees and pray that’s what you can do for this president rather than criticizing his personality because neither one of you are higher than or bigger than
I don't live in the States but in North America somewhere. You don't have to vote the lesser evil. God has called us to righteousness and justice. If the choices you have are evil then don't vote at all as a Christian. The only way to solve this is by prayers and if it's God's will have a true Christian in the White House.i But I also think that the word Christians been thrown around alot because you were brought us in church doesn't make you a Christian. How do you live your life? Does it relaxes God at least most of the time? Or do you live like the world and God is just an after thought?
Trump is NOT the “anointed “. Trump’s “past” is him being sued for racism, not letting black people rent from him. Google. He also had to settle from frauding thousands of people (Trump University ). Let’s talk about what he said with Billy Bush .. wow! Stop making excuses for him. IF I had thought he had repented through ALL these years, I’d give him a pass. No, he still is doing the same. I confess that it is hard for me to forgive what he has done, I will talk with God about that. But, stop blaspheming God, Trump is NOTHING like Jesus.
One created war, made the rich richer, and said evil things. The other killed babies, created homosexual marriage, closed down all the churches because of a flu, and denied the existence of God. The second one also created and supported riots that burned down its own cities. It called for the abolition of law enforcement, while also calling for the end of gun rights. One is business as usual. The other is pure, distilled evil.
Yes, Christians can vote Democrat because Scriptures says those in authority should give us "a tranquil and quiet life full of godliness and dignity" (1Tim 2:1-2). Hence we should vote for someone who is the most Christ-like. And that person could be a Democrat.
Can I argue that Tr is anti-R policy and pro-chaos? I totally get the point that R have the policy position, but this chaos is due to the character flaws and poor leadership of Tr. You can speak to Biden, but Tr himself is a lost cause. And most importantly here only paying lip service to R values and policies. He is only in it for himself and I've personally had people shut me down when speaking the Gospel with 'But Tr is a christian and he's a mess, who wants to be a Christian?'
SOOOO TRUE! The platform is one thing, but when the Leader himself does not lead according to the platform but leads according to his own FLAWED CHARACTER, that leader is not upholding policy.
It's a fair question. As a slightly heterodox Roman Catholic, he's not leading the charge in either direction. Like Jorge Bergoglio (a.k.a. 'Francis'), he mostly goes with the flow. With a few exceptions, Christians in the Western world have no business complaining about persecution, when our brethren in the Middle East and parts of Africa have suffered so much. It's a little ironic in view of the reputation she has acquired, but Hillary Clinton is the only politician of any nationality I've heard mention the suffering of Middle Eastern Christians. That was during the campaign in which she lost to Trump. Also ironically, the 'godly' Trump praised Kim Jong-un to the skies and declared that they had 'fallen in love'. That 'love' was very one-sided, because KJU only continued to accelerate his nuclear missile programme. Trump has served his purpose for the pro-life and Christian Zionist movements. He should now be cast aside like a squeezed lemon IMHO. That is what he does to others when he is finished with them.
Once you give your second vote for Trump, he will care less about how you feel and only try to do anything that he thinks will benefit himself. That truly has been his motto in his first term. Two wrongs do not make a right...
RandomLuis I guess adultery divorce remarriage cheating on wife with porn star ⭐️ is now considered ok by conservative evangelicals. Shows how much they have fallen
And if we had real questions...we would have about 100 million voters putting in... electing and donating to a real Christian candidate...well we get exactly what we definitely a candidate..so bad candidate means we have a bad society
I think it's simple-minded to simplify how we vote to just the policies because what's just as important as the policies is the leadership. The leader is the one who we expect to properly enforce said policies correctly, preach the truth as much as possible, and have good character. Trump fails miserably at all of these and his response to the coronavirus has only made that more glaring. And while yes, the major Christian values that the left doesn't affirm are concerning, but there's a lot more that they stand for than just those things, so you also have to weigh the quantity of good policies as well. For example, I'm strongly pro-life, but I think our gun control are insanely loss and need to be restricted just to give an example. Personally, I'm voting for Biden first and foremost because of Biden's leadership and character. He's always very calm and collected, and always listens to others, even and especially those he disagrees with. That's something we desperately need now. It's so refreshing to have a leader that will make the opposition feel heard and seen, even when they're minority and the opposition. It will build the bridge through the identity politics that plague this country that Mr. Turek called out.
@@supertonesfan9144 No I'm not. There's evil in every political party. There's no such thing as a "Christian party." This is why Jesus spoke about spiritual reform and not social reform. Because only spiritual reform leads to true change.
@@gabetalks9275 When did I mention a christian party I was your thought voting only on policy is simpleminded, also maybe you should get informed about guns in general and the laws on the books try even going through a background check. How strict would you make gun laws? I'm a strong supporter of the second amendment and have noticed that most people advocating for stricter gun laws don't know a thing about guns. so I would educate myself if I were you.
God will be the judge of all deaths, sin and not sin that are in the Bible and have happened and are happening, and the women decisions taken by them, not in the allowances of the Laws, He will judge , all killings ,beginning from the foundation of the world to its end! Justice will be done!
The real issue is man went from theocracy to self-determination with all the fallout. Moses' father-in-law sneaked human administration in again whilst counseling him in the wilderness. It is not clear whether Moses sought God's opinion in the matter but we know how God eventually responded when Samuel went to Him BEFORE annointing Saul. We will never really know what governance truly is until Jesus Christ returns. What is very clear is that man lost capacity to rule - dominion - to the other side of the spirit realm and he's been lost in hit-or-miss ever since. Shalom.
Great comment, but I think we also have to take into account provisional arrangements as described in the first several verses of Romans 13. Paul may be addressing Christians specifically, regarding their relations with an intermittently hostile State. But more may be gleaned from the passage about the purpose and proper mandate of secular government.
@@marcusonesimus3400 That passage still is in the same range of postfall make do. It presents human government as fait accompli but we know Paul to aspire to the kingdom of God as defined by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself - "thy kingdom come..." The kingdom of God is within us. That's why christians often stick out like sore thumb once outside church.
Pick up a Bible and read it for yourself, what do you want? Like we all have time to sit around and prove everything to you? LAZY! Read it for yourself!
Satan has the trump regime firmly in the palm of his hand. No Christian should support the evil trump cult trump wanting to turn USA into a fascist dictatorship and evangelical leadership look the other way.
This conversation disappoints me as a man of God due to the fact how some human beings have been treated over the course of America. Unfortunately, some people need to walk in others shoes and experiences.
He would look at the platforms. God doesn't just Care about love. He cares about justice as well. God is not just a God of love he is a God of wrath, and will judge those who sin against him.
@@matthewlangfordhypnosis6173Sorry mate, but that is not political policy. The bible never shows Jesus telling believers how to discern or influence Roman policy. Jesus' main criticism of what the Pharisees said was often when they were focussing too much on the legal interpretation of the Old Testament Scriptures instead of simply "loving your neighbor as yourself". So my original point stands.
Politics is becoming like a drug addiction to Frank and that's why I am starting to listen to him less and less. It's sad to watch what it is doing to him.
Whoever Frank Turek is, he is nuts! Like seriously take off the hat, it's absolutely just for show, wow. If you are voting with a Christian mindset you would vote democrat, not because perfect or anything but because there is underlying cultural policy that is Christ-like. Republican greed, hate and division is not Godly. And FYI abortion will happen exactly the same under either party. What would lower abortion rates is support for mothers, health care for all, maternity pay etc make life liveable (you know being Christ-like to people) and then it becomes far less likely for people to think they need abortions. Some serious nonsense spouted under a facade of Christianity in that short video. If you take political advice under a religious guise from this video you are taking advice from individuals willingly lying and spouting hyperbolic nonsense. Biden isn't some demon to fear, he is just the figure head for a party with the more Christian policy but who don't actively court that vote as much. You shouldn't need lying to to have your vote won.
Any decision to vote for two candidates vying for the same office boils down to one simple Biblical question...which of the two competing candidates for that office will move the "needle" closer to God's will being done on earth as it is in heaven? For President this year, that is clearly Pres. Trump.
As a Christian, I could not vote for trump...I def lean more conservative and always typically try to vote policy not party....but it was to hard to vote for someone who caused so much unrest. I feared for my safety due to the rise in racism I faced let alone black men, since he was in power. Granted racism has and will always be, its what comes out of our mouths that defiles us.....I tried soooooooo hard to over look things but in the end felt like I chose Biden who was more peaceful.....ultimately laws get broken and change, but what God says remains regardless.The republican "platform" has biblical attributes and so does the democratic.....both aren't perfect and I feel a merge between the 2 would be best...this is why I vote policy.....this potus made it hard for ppl like me to vote for him. I think if I was a white male or female I would have possibly been able to overlook certain things, so I get it.....but not gonna lie ive been disappointed in our evangelicals pushing votes for trump regardless of what others have had to suffer due to his behavior ie posting ppl saying white power on twitter and many more....you could probably only understand where I'm coming from if u were black, but as a Christian i hoped evangelicals would have been more honest in addressing this, or maybe they were by being honest in being less vocal about it.......... makes one wonder.......thank God for his righteous justice regardless of parties, skin color ect..He judges hearts and His thoughts are not like mans....Praise God.....I am a fan of franks lectures tho:) remember folks God appoints authority
JOHN THE BAPTIST leaped for joy in his mother’s womb at 6 months! The Bible says, “As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy!” Luke 1:44 This means abortion is murder, and babies cry in agony, not joy, when they are murdered in the womb! The Orthodox Church and God say abortion is murder! “The LORD says, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you!” Jeremiah 1:4-5 There are extremely rare exceptions but the most common cases occur when a girl seeks to murder her baby in her womb up to even the ninth month because her irresponsible boy friend left her after they were practicing sexual immorality outside of a responsible marriage union! BUT CHRIST HAS CONQUERED DEATH, SIN, AND THE DEVIL! There is mercy for the repentant sinner and no Christian can vote for a political candidate who supports this murder of babies in the womb!
At this point, you should vote for the platform. The Democratic platform is so far off from Christianity. Republicans aren't great, but the platform is much closer to biblical principles. Trump is obviously not a godly man, but you would rather have a brute who protects religious freedom and at least calls abortion out for what it is than someone who does not care about Christian values or babies' lives. Cyrus was not godly, but he protected and promoted (helping rebuild the temple) the Jews' ability to worship.
If conservatives wanted to change Roe v Wade, they could have done so in the 90s when they had 7 or so judges. Plus changing Roe does not make abortion illegal except in states that choose to do so. Abortion was higher before Roe than it is today thanks to increased access to healthcare and contraceptives. Both parties benefit by politicizing this issue. Most Americans have no idea what Marxism is if they think the Democratic party is Marxist.
Trump is the most prolife president in history. He also signed budgets funding PP for four years without any fuss. Don't pull the prolife card for trump. Vote for libertarian Jo Jorgensen.
A bit of a problem with Evangelicals is that they seem to not be concerned with regular people's problems and suffering. I remember railing at the distaste people had toward transsexuals or gay people's SUFFERING. I can just see Evangelicals squirming in their chairs at the thought of possibly empathizing with a sinner in my minds eye. They dare not even mention their own suffering to each other many times because it could be considered proof that God has abandoned them or something. People turn to those who seem to care. That's why many Christians turn to the Democratic party. Christian many times aren't there for their suffering. "Pray the prayer. Then get in formation or go away." This very question must be click bait. You can't really think that a "Good Christian" must vote Republican? If it's not click bait then it's an example of the very thing I'm talking about. Evangelicals can't reconcile God's love for humanity and God's distaste for sin. So they go to the distaste by default. Almost as if THEY are the judge and are exempt from judgement themselves. I'm not voting Democrat, but man, are we serious!
And what about distaste for the CHARACTER of the one leading? Does that not matter? He uses a few bible verses, takes a blasphemous picture in front of a church, somehow weaves the words “Almighty God” into a political speech and all of a sudden he’s GREAT. Go figure.
"so you think we should coddle sinners, patting their backs saying "oh you poor thing, your so oppressed and no one wants to enable your sinful practices. I will love you anyway but I won't mention that your lifestyle and sins are displeasing to God, because Jesus only cares about love and hugs and non confrontation."
@@TMcConnaughhay I go to church and only see sinners. I know that some that appear the least sinful are the most sinful many times. The question of "what should we do" is a good one though.
where is the speech from these guys that says we need to hear from God, they are just using their cognition ??? I think they forgot the we can as Christian hear God!
(Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, And whoever curses Israel will be cursed.) It's mentioned a few times in the Bible. I choose the side that chooses to protect God's Nation.
Baby’s saved, or baby’s not saved. Baby’s saved is my vote. Trump put into place Supreme Court justices that overturned Roe, that helped the little ones. My choice is clear. "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." - Jesus. Matthew 18:6
Yeah but post roe v wade it's a state issue. So if I wanted to vote for Kamala, I can in good conscious because here in Florida they are allowing us to vote separately on abortion, so I can vote pro life on that.
It’s not only a life issue. The democrat party policies are completely against Biblical principles in a lot of ways. That is why you see RFK endorsing Conservative values and Trump. Values that in RFK’s younger days, along with JFK are long gone. Jesus said in Matthew 12:30 “ you are either with me or against me”. There is no middle ground.
That's is impossible! You can be for Abortion AND Against Abortion. You can't be for Inva...Immigration AND Against it! est, est. Romans 3:15-16. (And people that are in the "Middle" tend to be middle "Left" so....There really is NO middle.
Satan has the trump regime firmly in the palm of his hand. No Christian should support the evil trump cult trump wanting to turn USA into a fascist dictatorship and evangelical leadership look the other way.
New flash yes lets vote for the lesser evil but lets not focus so much on it that it takes away from us doing the ministering and harvesting. Just saying. Seems like we put to much time and emphasis on politics when we could be focused the mission at hand. Again yes vote but no matter what its all going to get worse over time and there isn't a vote in the world that can stop it. But again vote lol
SHLM & HaB (peace & love). The Name of the Creator is Hayah asher Hayah, as what He told Mose (Exodus 3:14), preserved in the Hebrew Scriptures. There is a curse to the G-o-d name (Isaiah 65:11-12), preserved in the Hebrew Scriptures. All followers of the Messiah are to do the 7 appointed times (Leviticus 23), but no more animal sacrifices, following the Crucifixion of the Messiah. We are now of the order of MLK TSDQ (King, righteous), to Whom ABRaHM tithed. Ask the Messiah to be your personal Savior. He is the Atoning Offering for mankind for the remission of sin ( 1 John 2:1-2). He said to him, I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me (John 14:6). If you believe the Messiah died on the cross, & Resurrected three days later (presenting Himself as First Fruits to the Father), please ask Him to be your Savior. He is the ONLY way to Everlasting Life.
Iwent to Calvery Chappel in Costa mesa when it was in a tent LOL Then moved into a place called the Lords House moved to Santa cruz and the non denomanational Church Turned to Orthadoxy I moved to Alaske to the Cathedril there then moved back to SC ChuckSmith was my teacher then The Orthadox church Im Just getting BACK to NoN denomanatiol church i STILL have a black priiest who is also my God father I read my bible theKING James and dpray a lot LOL LOL
Not quite sure who the guy in the head is with the white cross but if he’s representing a man of God he needs to go sit down he was right on a few points electing someone with godly values and that’s about all the rest of it he can go sit down
We shouldn’t be afraid because God is in control. Also if LGBT individuals get more freedom or rights then us Christians should also. After all Joe Biden wants equality and Christians are people too.
My Grandfather had a BIG part in MAKING the A- BOMB and MY Grtandfather would NOT VOTE for Trump because he fought against that kind of thing with HITLER
@@justincameron9661The first amendment is actually supposed to keep the government from dictating the exercise of religion. Look around to see the opposite; democratic governors insisting that churches stay closed while supermarkets, liquor stores, casinos, and large protests may continue.
@@TMcConnaughhay Martin Luther Himself taught on the separation of church and state. Having religion in the government is the worst thing you can do to peoples faiths. Just Look at Europe
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Bobby unpacks how he thinks Christians should vote in this video th-cam.com/video/yzv_CJPo43M/w-d-xo.html.
-OMA Team
Or Biden because they are on the same team They are selected not elected and the federal reserve desides who is the next president not the people which will be trump according to the plan and they will never make things better and There is no right or left
This vid is just heartless. The one guy mentioned critical race theory? The only party that is saying anything about the way us blacks are murdered here in America is the Democrats. But yall pretend this isn't happening? Really! Are you being serious about which party cares about life? Yall just mention a few things. Nothing about Republicans trying to take healthcare away from the poor. Really?
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Yall basically care more about protecting yall comfortable religious freedoms than protecting life. Yall say nothing about how the Republican's treat life. Or how this President lied over and over to the people about this virus. That caused so many lives to be lost. But the one guy brushes that all aside by saying he THINKS the virus is overblown. Over 240,000 dead, but he's going with what he THINKS. Unreal!
MALLYGEEZ1 God bless you. Jesus loves you. A lot of this mob live in their little right wing bubble so don't expect them to understand you.
I grew up in a moderately Christian/republican home...thank God, the gospel was more heavily emphasized then politics (though, I wish we didn't listen to talk radio as much, looking back)...
I remember around the time of the elections of 2008...all the Conservative Talk Radio was making such a big deal about how Obama was going to destroy America and there would be no way that America would elect him...
And then, Obama won. I felt so defeated and scared. But then, I noticed something. All the stuff that these Talk Radio people were saying didn't happen. They became nastier and nastier towards anyone who called themselves liberal and as I read the Bible more and more, I found that I couldn't justify the statements that many Republicans and conservative radio hosts were making towards Democrats and Liberals...
That was almost 10 years ago...and even within the last 4 years, I have changed...
No, I am not a liberal...I still have a lot of conservative type beliefs, but do not consider myself conservative...I am a man without a party...a man without a country...a man who follows God is a man without a country...and there is such freedom there...
When Trump began to run, I couldn't believe that people took him seriously...I thought it was a joke. I thought there was no way that people would support him...and then he won...I was surprised by what I saw...so many Christians were rallying around a man who stated during the election that he did not need forgiveness from God...and also suprised by how many of my liberal friends were scared of what would happen. I remember coming into work the day after the election and many of them were in tears at some point of the day. I was a very humbling experience that these people (many whom have felt hurt or neglect by the relgious right) were so scared that they came into work crying...
For the last 4 years, I've tried to warm up to Trump...but every time I try to give him a chance, I find myself shaking my head at how further away he is taking us from reality...every year...every month...every week...every day, it seems to get worse...
No, he's not hitler...but he's not King David either...
I am not saying all this to say that if you're a Christian you shouldn't vote Republican...I am saying that you shouldn't look down at those who are voting Democrat because of what Trump has become and the stain he has left on Christianity in America...
Who wants to follow the Christ that the Trump Christians follow?
Ask your non-Christian friends, how many of them want to follow Christ if they know you voted for Trump? Ask yourself why that is....it's not because of hatred...it's because there is a disconnect between the words/actions of trump and the bible which he claims to follow and for which many of his followers claim to follow...
Also, ask yourself this: Can you separate the Part of Conservatism from the Faith of Christianity?
If you cannot find any differences between the two, you need to do some thinking and praying...There is no political system in the world that contains the truth that we find in Christianity...none...
If you are so afraid of losing your religious liberties, remember this:
the early church THRIVED during times of persecution, because they learned how to cultivate their faith in private and share when the risk was worth it...
We Christians in America will never understand that time of thriving...sure, we'll be wealthy and rich in the worldly sense of the word if we vote for Trump...but, we will have lost our soul as a nation...
That's my thoughts anyways...
Wow... How did you probe my brain to know exactly what I was thinking? This might be the comment of the year. Too bad this will fall on deaf ears of both the conservative and liberal Christians. They've already chosen their side and continue to make excuses for their clan.
Dude, you're so right. We've become so blinded by patriotism (as if American culture aligns with what Jesus taught *eyeroll*) that true blue Christ following takes a back seat to following a party.
Well written!
Yeah trump is the world's oldest millennial: truth= his feelings.
I just can't get behind the man who makes his own truth on the daily - and for
Things which are meaningless: it wasnt the biggest inauguration crowd. And so what if it wasn't? You still won. Looked at a hurricane Track and thought to warn Alabama where it looked like it was going. Well experts knew Alabama would be fine but nope, double down, grab a sharpie.... Just admit a mistake and it's forgotten, anybody dwelling on it would be called out for being petty.
And these are the two most Innocuous examples.... It only gets worse from here.
Economics, im With bernie, no reason 10 people should live so lavish while people are starving, people should not die in poverty because they couldn't pay medical bills and a big Corp should not be able to buy an election.
Culture im conservative, freedom of speech and religion are very very important and need to be protected, the unborn are human persons, killing them is immoral and we need to work through all possible means to prevent the demand for abortions in addition to pipe dreaming about overturning r v w.
Why don't republicans call out trump on his very un-Christian behavior and attitudes? Why the silence?
These people are calling Trump, but he is still better then Biden, that's what counts!
@@anaarkadievna is he really tough?
Can you name some of Trump's "un-Christian behavior and attitudes"?
I think it could go both ways honestly, but Biden is better at uniting the country and mature to handle the pandemic
@@simpleenglish1 I am going to copy some points from an article written 2016.
Lets see what still fits.
1. He lacks compassion.
The Bible says: "As God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience." (Colossians 3:12)
On this point, we could cite Mr. Trump's many instances of inflammatory rhetoric against immigrants and Muslims, his record of discriminatory housing practices, his public cruelty to ex-spouses or his sensational and mean-spirited feuds with other celebrities as evidence of his lack of compassion. But consider a recent AP-GfK poll showing that among Republicans, he is largely believed to lack compassion. And bear in mind, these are the people most likely to view him favorably. Many of those voters polled expressed this was not a concern. But for Christians, an unrepentant lack of compassion suggests that the man does not seek to please God or lead according to His will.
2. He appeals to fear and anger.
The Bible says: "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear; for fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not reached perfection in love."(1 John 4:18)
The Bible says: "But I say to you that if you are angry with a brother or sister, you will be liable to judgment; and if you insult a brother or sister, you will be liable to the council; and if you say, 'You fool,' you will be liable to the hell of fire." (Matthew 5: 22)
3. He is enamored with "greatness" and ego, but has no concern for "goodness" or service.
The Bible says: "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. Blessed are the merciful, for they will receive mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God." (Matthew 5: 5-8)
In The Narcissist Next Door, author Jeffrey Kluger suggests Trump is a classic narcissist. Some might say that running for office encourages this sort of thing. But narcissism might be the most dangerous condition for a Christian - without humility and self-effacement, we are incapable of modeling Jesus' behavior, we allow no space for the Holy Spirit to bless our relationships, and we are unable to receive or revel in the goodness of God. Ask yourself the last time you saw a public expression of humility from Mr. Trump.
4. He lies - a lot.
The Bible says: "Beware then of useless grumbling, and keep your tongue from slander; because no secret word is without result, and a lying mouth destroys the soul." (Wisdom 1:11)
6. He speaks about his daughter in a disrespectful and sexualized way.
The Bible says: "Do you have daughters? Be concerned for their chastity, and do not show yourself too indulgent with them." (Sirach 7:24)
In a 2006 interview with Rolling Stone, when asked about the idea of his daughter posing for Playboy, Trump replied, “I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” For a self-identified Presbyterian, such a statement is hard to square with Calvinist sexual ethics.
7. He does not attempt to love his enemies, but instead cultivates antagonism.
The Bible says: "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous." (Matthew 5:43-48)
9. He doesn’t seem to care about the poor.
The Bible says: "Jesus said to him, 'If you wish to be perfect, go, sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.'" (Matthew 19:21)
This is the article I took all of this from.
www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2016/11/06/10-reasons-you-cant-be-a-christian-and-vote-for-donald-trump/
Lets add to this.
‘Tsunami of untruths’: Trump has made 20,000 false or misleading claims - report
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/13/donald-trump-20000-false-or-misleading-claims
He is also racist.
www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
Is that enough or would you like me to find more examples of un-Christian behaviour?
One last thing.
This is a quote from him
*"I like to be good. I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness. And I am good. I don't do a lot of things that are bad. I try to do nothing that is bad."*
Tell me, is that Christian attitude or no?
www.businessinsider.com/trump-on-god-i-dont-like-to-have-to-ask-for-forgiveness-2016-1?r=US&IR=T
The enemy created politics to divide us as people. Jesus is LORD and He has my trust! HALLELUJAH! Amen!
The enemy can‘t create ANYTHING. He is not God. He can use the created and from God given things to twist them and use them for their good!
Man created politics because they wanted a leader other than God.
Completely agree! Jesus Christ is my President and so much more!
Politics is just the way of articulating how the government should rule and what morality should be enforced vs not enforced. There's nothing demonic about it.
And we absolutely are supposed to divide when it comes to major issues. The trouble comes when we divide over minor ones.
I pray that Holy Spirit will lead American People's hearts to choose the one who is closer to God, uphold His teachings.
Or at least the one who will drive the church closer to God
No, @@dosmastrify, that's not the President's job. Rather, it's a matter of having freedom -- freedom to worship freely (1st Amendment).
He is the only president to approve of gay marriage upon entering office. Obama and Hilary disapproved and then changed their tune later while in power
@@IndianaJoe0321 no. I mean generally, not as a leader. Probably like Stalin drove people to God because that's the only being who could save them
@Tammy Zarins please don't soil the cross by putting it next to a rump
"Just about every election is a choice between a known witch and a suspected devil" 😂 Ah, good ol' Norm. I'm sure he's still giving laughs in Heaven now.
After all, the Word does does describe satan as 'god of this world'. However, we must not confuse humans with demons. Christ died for our sins, therefore we can be redeemed. Demons are beyond redemption.
nope. its insane that a country your size only has 2 choices thats nuts. 360 plus million and only 2 platforms?
There are actually more, they just don't get as much exposure and don't have the kind of history the two parties do.
Agreed. We need a Conservative Party.
@@IndianaJoe0321 What do you mean don't we have a conservative party?
Does that mean you would rather have parliamentary system?
Agreed. The framers of our constitution did a fantastic job in most areas. But this one area is an epic fail.
Other systems make third, or fourth parties viable. Our system will eventually devolve into a one party system. Actually, it already did during the early 2000's. Both parties said the same liberal garbage.
Trump gave us a conservative party again. Hopefully, that's the one that will take over permanently in a few years. But we will see.
This might sound cavalier but in my eyes, the gospel is not dependent on who is in power. Honestly, when looking at church history, true Christianity thrives under persecution and during prosperous times, the church is quite lackadaisical. A compromised church is probably why we're in this position and having this conversation. I'm certainly not a proponent of Marxism, abortion, LGBTQ, etc. but I can tell you this without hesitation, a republic or democracy is not a Godly form of government. Having said that, I know we will never go back to a Theocracy (Kingdom where God is King) and since we won't, the only direction to head is down. I hear more "Christians" talking politics than I hear them preaching Jesus. Even with a republican presidency, this country has deteriorated and it will continue to deteriorate no matter who is in office. Will it deteriorate faster with a democratic presidency? Most likely, yes. But if you believe in your country so much then you believe in the checks and balances that are in place and you have nothing to worry about. Reality is, better get your life right, priorities on God, preach the Word of God, and save the lost. Go a few nights without Fox News/CNN and replace that time with God's Word. Seek His face and see real change. Thanks guys. God bless.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Right ON !
The question was "can a Christian vote democrat"? Answer is no.
@@tmo4330Correct!!!
So your perspective is, let people suffer and intentionally make things worse because it will never be perfect? That's actually evil, what you just said.
Bobby is 100% correct. You shouldn't vote based on who the person is, but rather what they stand for when it comes to policies.
Need to be careful with this reasoning though. Hitler made the trains run on time. Evidently that was a big deal... But combined with the rest it was a bad deal
@@dosmastrify Hitler had the church both Protestant & Catholics behind him.
No offense This guy is a joke.
If consevatives wanted to change Roe v Wade, they could have done so in the 90s when they had 7 or so judges. Plus changing Roe does not make abortion illegal except in states that choose to do so. Abortion was higher before Roe than it is today thanks to increased access to healthcare and contraceptives. Both parties benefit by politicizing this issue.
Most Americans have no idea what Marxism is if they think the Democratic party is Marxist.
Character is more important than policy. Because character will be what makes decisions. If someone has a good character then their policy will be just and fair. Trump has a low and selfish character and is using religious people to get votes. Men like him use people who are gullible and take advantage of them for votes and then when they get those votes and become president their character is what’s making decisions…please look at a persons character and not what they tell you they stand for. Character is extremely important when voting for someone who will make important decisions!
@@jameswabwire1931 A Christian can't vote democrat.
I hate this question. Can Christians do xyz? Of course! People are not saved by their political affiliation, but by Jesus Christ.
What does light have to do with darkness? how can you claim you love Jesus Christ and support people that walk with the devil that push ideologies and agendas of the devil do not realize it's the Democrat ideologies that led to the persecution of Christians.
The Democratic party is a party of vile ideologies socialism communism which are all Antichrist in spirit
There's no way you can love Jesus and vote Democrat and everything about the Democratic party is satanic which is why they are supported by Satanist luciferians occultist all manner of people that practice evil things all matter of perverts support the Democratic party because it is the party of rebellion to God
When you vote the lesser of two evils, don't be surprised when you get evil.
Bam
So don’t vote, or throw it away, and deal with the greater of the two evils..?
That doesn’t make sense...we already know that both are evil
@@mccalltrader this one helped me: www.wayoflife.org/reports/twenty_years_of_calling_for_prayer_for_america.php
@@dosmastrifyLOL.. I said Bam in my head ..and than saw first reply was Bam from you! We think alike..
Problem is we are all evil in our hearts. Hence by grace through repentance and acceptance
This is 3 years old and nothing has changed. Concerned about “their stance on life”, “Marxism”, etc. Please look at Trump’s positive opinion on Putin and other autocrats. CRT etc. is not anti Bible.
Frank did point out that sometimes it’s about choosing who is less worse. I’m not a Trump fan, but is Kamala less worse? Based on what Biden has done, I’d say Trump is less worse. What would Kamala implement aside from the no tax on tips that she just so happened to be for it after Trump decided he’s for it
@@adventuresofnategabeandzoehave you looked at trump record he’s the last person I want to
No debate here. One party is anti family, anti Christian values, anti Christian!
@@Rayne35 I have looked at his record. Isn’t it the least bit fishy that he supposedly has all these “felonies”, but didn’t before his presidency. Are these people going after the crime or the person? I can tell you that the economy and the situation at the border was MUCH better under Trump than it was with Biden. Harris, on The View, said she wouldn’t have done anything differently. So, who am I to think, or anyone else for that matter, that she would be any different than Biden?
Any Christian Trump supporter has clearly not listened to Jesus or listened to Trump
We must look past his personality and his shortcomings to his great policies. We can hardly say the same about Biden and his crooked ways.
Amen!
Whoever said this is effectively helping Democrats who has a platform of D.
@@mauriceb53 so IF SATAN has a good book for you to read or wants your vote then its OK because he has good stuff? CRAZY if you ask me ,it tosses OUT all Jesus words
Gotta love Frank and Bobby. Two men of God.
I don't see how you can be a Christian and vote for the party that encourages homosexuality, transgenderism, abortion, and dividing people by race, gender, and income. Not to mention that the Democrat party mocks Biblical values and removed God from their platform.
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Just an FYI, Donald Trump is not anti-gay or pro-life.
And more than 90% of black Christians vote Democrat. They’re more concerned about progress for their own rights than worrying about unborn babies and people’s sex lives.
I get the hesitation of Christians to vote for Democrats, and I obviously disagree with the culture stuff from the left. But I would argue this. Think of how America was founded. Ben Franklin, George Washington and Nathaniel Greene were all important to the Revolution, but played different roles. Franklin was a great negotiator and statesmen, Washington was a great leader, but was often outmaneuvered on the battlefield and Greene was more of a tactician on the battlefield. Washington ultimately became President, but all 3 were important in different roles. I think you can have a Democratic leader, who does a good job of following the duty of President, but may be someone you disagree with while voting for conservative lawmakers who better represent biblical values. I don't think it's a Republican only choice for those who follow the Lord.
@Vienna107
You just said a whole bunch of nothing. Tactics on the battlefield is not the same as a president that would be more than happy to sign into law anti-christ policies (Obama, Joe biden).
2 john 10-11;
"10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."
The bible talks about supporting those who support sin. Just supporting sin is sin. when you vote for a candidate, you vote for his policies. When his policies of trangenderism take effect into law, all those who voted for him have sin on their hands.
@@kuntakinte1416 I respectfully disagree. If that were the case, Christians should never bother voting, because we all fall short of God's standard. I'm an independent voter, but feel like Trump panders to Christians and that too many Christians idolize him, which to me is heavily concerning. Even though Obama didn't really align with Christianity, I believe abortion rates dropped under him. God can use any leader to promote society
I think 100 faithful and devoted Christians would out perform 3000 to 6000 members in some of the mega churches
"Can Christians drive cars, manufactured by non believers, what about phones, the internet, everyday products?"
My question is how can one vote for a man who makes up his own truth.
It's not a vote *for* a man who makes up his own truths, it's a vote *against* a platform that makes up even more vital own truths.
@@SojournerDidimus Sir, you're a minority view, most I see are more in love with Trump than the Lord.... But your point is well taken
@@dosmastrify I'm cheating, I'm European 😉
All people make their own truth! Ok? You are not God, you are not right all the time... neither is Trump, but the question is who is worst: Trump or Biden:?
@@anaarkadievna all people make their own lies? Not ok.
Plus claiming you or I make up as much as you know who is like comparing a moll hill to a mountain
Trump had control of senate,house.... why didn't he change roe v Wade ?
THANK YOU!!! They are just using abortion as an excuse to get the Christian vote
If consevatives wanted to change Roe v Wade, they could have done so in the 90s when they had 7 or so judges. Plus changing Roe does not make abortion illegal except in states that choose to do so. Abortion was higher before Roe than it is today thanks to increased access to healthcare and contraceptives. Both parties benefit by politicizing this issue
@@antifamember8431
That is very true, but the Christians used them to get Roe v. Wade overturned, as it should have been done long ago.
However the slaughter will continue; have no fear. So long as men have no respect for women and sexual immorality is routine, indignity and death will abound in the name of 'liberty'. 'Doctors' will continue to profit from the execution of innocents.
What ought to recognized is the vital role a welfare State must play in
protecting life. When men run away from their responsibility, the State may have to intervene with income supports for abandoned women.
Both Republicans and Democrats will have to swallow hard to arrive at a just solution. Someone will have to pay.
He is why it got removed federally.
he did in 2022
One party removes God and mocks Him from their party platform. Why would you vote for them? Democrats seem to me to parallel the Hellenistic Jews.
And yet the other party uses religion as a prop to gain power from the poor and oppressed.
Jared Dixon opressed really?? Im hispanic and I dont feel opressed get out of that victim mentally you want something you have to earn it......we live in a country where you can make as much money you want have 2 jobs etc etc.... some if the wealthiest minorities in USA are Asians
@@monicamuniz2869 Amen, I’m black and I’m not oppressed. Yet, Jared expects to prey upon our emotions and manipulate us to vote as his moral superiority deems right. Are we to be enslaved, again? Uggh!
@Angie Smith they sure want us to think that way SMH
@@monicamuniz2869 hey Monica. I just watched this. Please take a close listen and share. Our brother got ahold of a zoom call between the founder of BLM and a Cal State professor who is the head of the Los Angeles BLM chapter. They reveal the true agenda of BLM. It’s not simply a hashtag as you and I already know. They want a radical spiritual movement. Marx was a pagan satanist. When BLM says to “say their name”. These woman describe what the true intention is in that statement. It is to summon spirits.
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9 "When you enter the land which the LORD your God gives you, you shall not learn to imitate the detestable things of those nations.
10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,
11 or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
12 For whoever does these things is detestable to the LORD; and because of these detestable things the LORD your God will drive them out before you.
13 You shall be blameless before the LORD your God.
14 For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do so. (Deuteronomy 18:9, NASB)
Abortion is wrong but so is our obsession with abortion laws. Our only focus should be bringing women and men to Jesus. Rather than pushing people away from God. Non Christians do not have the Holy Spirit convicting them. Once they truly know Jesus they will not need an abortion regardless of what the abortion laws are.
Well said🙏
The Republicans are not the least worst choice all the time. Also, who ever you vote for Christian's should not ignore sin no matter what party they vote for. Also, Republicans don't seem to care must about life or minorities.
We no longer have a Republican party as we knew it. Irregardless of "party", or even policy,
would a Christian vote for Hitler or Mussolini ? We are in an extreme situation
like never before . I hope we can seriously reflect on that.
Neither Hitler nor Mussolini pressured other nations to stop the persecution of Christians or risk losing foreign aid. Neither of those men fought to protect the rights of the unborn and religious freedom. Of course, you may say, the unborn are important, but there are so many other important issues!
Over 60 million lives have been ended by the institution of abortion. I hope we can seriously reflect on that.
The proper analogy would be to picture yourself as a Christian in in US in 1860 and ask yourself, would I vote Lincoln or Breckinridge? The news of the time made Lincoln out to be a corrupt, inept, crude, and inexperienced fellow. Was he the wrong choice because of the lies spoken of him? You know, many Christians of the time voted for Breckinridge. They voted for and took up weapons to kill to keep their property, or better understood, their slaves.
Let us put today's election in its proper context.
@@Acrosurge so if hitler and Mussolini fought for unborn babies and fight for Christian institutions whilst being who we know they are and did what they did
You will vote for them
WOW!!
You have some up the whole problem voting for Trump as a Christian
@@Ashantia35 Admirable effort, my friend. But, he'll never get it.
Satan has the trump regime in the palm of his hand. No Christian should vote for trump.
Amen! You call out the truth
Name me a single Republican policy backed up by the Bible?
Republicans in general aren’t in favor of socialism, and they’re against the murder of unborn babies
I follow Jesus..and would NEVER vote for Trump..we shouldn't be focused on Men anyway..ridiculous..
You are a smart person for doing that, may God bless you and you’re family
@@shamiquajones9860 Thanks you too!
Satan has the trump regime in the palm of his hand. No Christian should vote for trump.
You will vote Biden then? You won't have an environment to even follow Jesus then.
Thisladyisstrange stop with parroting the right wing fascist BS lines. A fascist dictatorship is where the trump regime is taking America down the path of.
I can't make myself vote democrat. I like some of their platform items, but it is always abortion that stops me.
Abortion is legal under Republicans anyway so maybe vote democrat and at least bring more Christ like attitudes into the country. Gosh.
@@YesThatCraig I see you want to play sophistry. I doubt you have read to two party's platforms.
@@nancejo had to Google that word but handily sophistry is literally everything they were saying, coz seriously they were spouting proper fear mongering nonsense, to a near comedic extent. Whoever wins abortion will keep happening. But if ya'll vote democrat then you might have a chance at improving people's lives which is the best way to limit the chance of abortion.
Why is it abortion the one that stops you?
@@kaiwilliams141 Because it is killing human life. I can't support that unless there is an overwhelming reason such as the life of the mother is endanger. Otherwise, it is evil.
Yes, the most important thing is a canidate's policies, because his policies are what affect our nation.
But you can't always tell what his policies will be on the basis of what he says they will be. What if the candidate is a woman? Then you will have to consider her policies.
Deborah was a judge of Israel, and Israel's top general Barak would not go into battle without her. Perhaps you know the story.
God Bless in Jesus Christ Name Amen.
Don't know why this is showing up in my feed 4 years later but, since it is, I'll weigh in. I don't mind saying that politics is important. I DO mind the argument that politics impacts our ability to live out the Gospel. Frank says, "You can't have this conversation in China!" You absolutely can have it and Christians DO have Gospel conversations in China. You just can't do it comfortably and without risk. American Christians are married to their comfort. Painting the situation as if the Church would fail without Republicans is about as anti-Biblical as a position can be.
It seems to me the question is not about keeping Christian policies or even upholding our Christian rights, but what culture do we need to live in, in order that more people would become Christians. You bring up China.... the fastest growing Christian population in the world.
Exactly they can take everything I have away and it won't change Jesus in my life
Yet Jesus tells us to be good stewards of what we've been given. That would necessarily include our communities and nations.
What is the source of your information? How can any reliable information come out of China?
I have a real problem with two things here. One, all the criticism of Trump is his personal life, when it's his _policies_ that should matter. Two, we keep talking about Republican vs Democrat, when in reality Trump is the best choice because he's so unlike most everyone else in both parties. He IS the independent we will never get.
There's a lot of good candidates that aren't exactly Republican that are in the Republican party
I give Frank an A for attempting to turn this in to a platform question. Here is where his logic fails miserably. Platforms have never been anything more than words used as a sales job to cobble together constituency groups and have never been lived up to, not in my or my husbands 60+ years. Trump, when the heck has he ever listen to the words of others. Nope it's his actions that we are to use as a guide. One would have to be either gullible or naïve to think the Republican platform would be followed by Trump. Good attempt Frank to turn this away from the person of Trump.
Satan has the trump regime firmly in the palm of his hand. No Christian should support the evil trump cult trump wanting to turn USA into a fascist dictatorship and evangelical leadership look the other way.
Couldn't agree more.
What part of the Republican Party Platform did Trump ignore that you think he shouldn't have? Maybe the part put into the platform by the establishment types who are war mongers? Trump got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize on 3 separate occasions, but you think we'd be better off with war mongers in charge?
And what part of the Democrat Party Platform isn't anti-biblical?
This aged terribly, fake Christians voting democrats. Im not voting for a pastor just a president to do his job not as a spiritual leader but someone who can affect our ability to live out our faith freely.
If you have spiritual eyes from almighty God you won't vote democrat!!!
You only vote Democrat if you want revelation to happen earlier and you wanna test God.
A true believer should vote based on conviction. What the person's political affiliation is that you are voting for means absolutely NOTHING in comparison to the policies they support. If their policies are immoral, wicked, and glorifies sin then a TRUE believer should NOT vote for the individual whether Democrat or Republican. #unapologeticallyChristian
I wish more black churches would wake up(I am black before you jump on me.)
The Pastors fail the flock by not teaching the platforms of these parties. But at the end of the day, As a Christian it shouldn't be that difficult a decision if you know the heart of God.
@@chiggerdee4230 th-cam.com/video/koMYrbJfuYg/w-d-xo.html -Please watch. This video is blasphemy. Watch it with Proverbs 6:16-19 in mind.
If anyone does you have the right ro speak. I'm neither black nor American, but I recognize the tremendous role which churches have long played in African-American communities. I am impressed by how churches surround bereaved families when there has been a miscarriage of justice.
When I see African-American political leaders on TV (CNN mostly), I see some paying lip-service to the Church and the Christian faith, but only briefly.
Do you think that the Social Gospel has been stressed and the message of salvation suppressed? Just wondering.
Philosophically the Social Gospel is far superior to Neo-Marxism, but without the power of the Spirit one is reduced to 'doing good deeds'. The salt loses its saltiness.
@@marcusonesimus3400 Yes absolutely I believe the Social gospel has been stressed and the message of salvation repressed. You are correct that without the spirit one is reduced to good deeds. Man is not saved by good deeds but by the grace as a result of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Anyone who genuinely repents and puts their faith and trust in Jesus Christ will be saved.
I support Bernie in 2016 and 2020 primaries and the Democratic nominee in both general elections BECAUSE of Christ and his example and command to love your neighbour. The hatred, violence, discrimination, illness, suffering and death pushed by the GOP is exact opposite of everything Jesus did and taught. The fact that evangelicals are tied so tightly to the GOP makes society see Christianity as not something to be taken seriously. Why are you guys obsessed with hurting people&opposing empathy ? As said in this video, politics affects ability to preach the gospel,yes, conservatives are pushing people away in droves. “ there’s no hatred quite like Christian love“ “ I like your Christ, I don’t like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ“ are widely known and used phrases in society BECAUSE of this. It becomes apparent what the true priorities are for evangelicals. You blatantly& explicitly pushed hatred in this video and didn’t even try to be subtle or beat around the bush!🤯 this is why USA is becoming less Christian. If you want to push the country away from Christianity, keep up the attitude in this video.
So Christians should stay away from politics in your opinion, or have you read the bible?
How is this even a question?? watching too much CNN I guess??
It takes a lot to get people off of CNN.
@K H Yea, thats pretty much were im at.
Feeding the poor to help them get back on there feet is one thing, but a system that keeps them FROM getting on there feet is another.
There are some definite issues in the healthcare system, namely with insurance. But its hard to shoot down the US healthcare system when the rest of the world flocks too it for major surgery.
Gender Identity is science... there are only 2 unless a very rare mutation has occurred in the DNA.... Dont even wanna get started on abortion...... so sad
@@JohnnyAnderson1 what are you on about? Rest of the world does not flock the the US "healthcare".
Rest of the (developed) world looks at your private insurance system and either laughs or shakes their head.
yndsu I’ve known several people from other country’s have no other choice but to come to the US for special procedures. But I will agree I don’t recall them being from a highly developed country.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Just google which could country has the best health care system
See where America is ranked
I bet you will make some excuses that the rankings is bias.
THE DEVIL is ALIVE and WELL here in America and he is NOT wearing a MASK!
and does NOT want you to eiither
Simply put after the Huge Christian Support of Donald Trump
The only word I can use to describe Christianity
Is
Hypocrisy.
I love our beloved President Trump if he only knew what this man has done for this country take your opinions and get on your knees and pray that’s what you can do for this president rather than criticizing his personality because neither one of you are higher than or bigger than
Satan has the trump regime in the palm of his hand. No Christian should vote for trump.
Great vid. Frank Turek sums up how I feel.
So you’re an idiot also.
@@gz9520 too*
I don't live in the States but in North America somewhere. You don't have to vote the lesser evil. God has called us to righteousness and justice. If the choices you have are evil then don't vote at all as a Christian. The only way to solve this is by prayers and if it's God's will have a true Christian in the White House.i But I also think that the word Christians been thrown around alot because you were brought us in church doesn't make you a Christian. How do you live your life? Does it relaxes God at least most of the time? Or do you live like the world and God is just an after thought?
Trump is God's anointed, remember we judge people by there past, is so people wouldn't like half the people in the bible especially king David
Trump is NOT the “anointed “. Trump’s “past” is him being sued for racism, not letting black people rent from him. Google. He also had to settle from frauding thousands of people (Trump University ). Let’s talk about what he said with Billy Bush .. wow! Stop making excuses for him. IF I had thought he had repented through ALL these years, I’d give him a pass. No, he still is doing the same. I confess that it is hard for me to forgive what he has done, I will talk with God about that. But, stop blaspheming God, Trump is NOTHING like Jesus.
Amen! Bonhoeffer found out about being silenced.
2 devils walk into a country... Stop me if you’ve heard this one...
One created war, made the rich richer, and said evil things.
The other killed babies, created homosexual marriage, closed down all the churches because of a flu, and denied the existence of God.
The second one also created and supported riots that burned down its own cities. It called for the abolition of law enforcement, while also calling for the end of gun rights.
One is business as usual. The other is pure, distilled evil.
Yes, Christians can vote Democrat because Scriptures says those in authority should give us "a tranquil and quiet life full of godliness and dignity" (1Tim 2:1-2). Hence we should vote for someone who is the most Christ-like. And that person could be a Democrat.
Can I argue that Tr is anti-R policy and pro-chaos? I totally get the point that R have the policy position, but this chaos is due to the character flaws and poor leadership of Tr. You can speak to Biden, but Tr himself is a lost cause. And most importantly here only paying lip service to R values and policies. He is only in it for himself and I've personally had people shut me down when speaking the Gospel with 'But Tr is a christian and he's a mess, who wants to be a Christian?'
While I completely agree, be careful, you're bordering on heresy according to some
@@dosmastrify you mean those people who say Trump is the second coming?
SOOOO TRUE! The platform is one thing, but when the Leader himself does not lead according to the platform but leads according to his own FLAWED CHARACTER, that leader is not upholding policy.
@J L see that's a defensible position IMHO, but many love this guy like he's Jesus himself
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I would like for Frank to tell us how Biden is taking away religious freedom?
It's a fair question. As a slightly heterodox Roman Catholic, he's not leading the charge in either direction. Like Jorge Bergoglio (a.k.a. 'Francis'), he mostly goes with the flow.
With a few exceptions, Christians in the Western world have no business complaining about persecution, when our brethren in the Middle East and parts of Africa have suffered so much. It's a little ironic in view of the reputation she has acquired, but Hillary Clinton is the only politician of any nationality I've heard mention the suffering of Middle Eastern Christians. That was during the campaign in which she lost to Trump.
Also ironically, the 'godly' Trump praised Kim Jong-un to the skies and
declared that they had 'fallen in love'. That 'love' was very one-sided, because KJU only continued to accelerate his nuclear missile programme.
Trump has served his purpose for the pro-life and Christian Zionist movements. He should now be cast aside like a squeezed lemon IMHO. That is what he does to others when he is finished with them.
During Covid it was the Democratic party that pushed for churches to be closed for worship like California and Illinois. That speaks for itself!
Once you give your second vote for Trump, he will care less about how you feel and only try to do anything that he thinks will benefit himself. That truly has been his motto in his first term. Two wrongs do not make a right...
Satan has the trump regime in the palm of his hand. No Christian should vote for trump.
if you vote for biden you either were never a born again Christian, or you have fallen away from the truth.
@@bornagainluis Would not vote for a baby killer either. Like I said. Two wrongs do not make it right.
@@student6045 trump better option than satanic biden
RandomLuis I guess adultery divorce remarriage cheating on wife with porn star ⭐️ is now considered ok by conservative evangelicals. Shows how much they have fallen
And if we had real questions...we would have about 100 million voters putting in... electing and donating to a real Christian candidate...well we get exactly what we definitely a candidate..so bad candidate means we have a bad society
I think it's simple-minded to simplify how we vote to just the policies because what's just as important as the policies is the leadership. The leader is the one who we expect to properly enforce said policies correctly, preach the truth as much as possible, and have good character. Trump fails miserably at all of these and his response to the coronavirus has only made that more glaring. And while yes, the major Christian values that the left doesn't affirm are concerning, but there's a lot more that they stand for than just those things, so you also have to weigh the quantity of good policies as well. For example, I'm strongly pro-life, but I think our gun control are insanely loss and need to be restricted just to give an example.
Personally, I'm voting for Biden first and foremost because of Biden's leadership and character. He's always very calm and collected, and always listens to others, even and especially those he disagrees with. That's something we desperately need now. It's so refreshing to have a leader that will make the opposition feel heard and seen, even when they're minority and the opposition. It will build the bridge through the identity politics that plague this country that Mr. Turek called out.
That's an excellent way of saying it
You're naive.
@@supertonesfan9144 No I'm not. There's evil in every political party. There's no such thing as a "Christian party." This is why Jesus spoke about spiritual reform and not social reform. Because only spiritual reform leads to true change.
@@gabetalks9275 When did I mention a christian party I was your thought voting only on policy is simpleminded, also maybe you should get informed about guns in general and the laws on the books try even going through a background check. How strict would you make gun laws? I'm a strong supporter of the second amendment and have noticed that most people advocating for stricter gun laws don't know a thing about guns. so I would educate myself if I were you.
@@supertonesfan9144 knowing that guns are the weapons used in mass shootings is all I need to know
God will be the judge of all deaths, sin and not sin that are in the Bible and have happened and are happening, and the
women decisions taken by them, not in the allowances of the Laws, He will judge , all killings ,beginning from the foundation of the world to its end! Justice will be done!
Amen!!! 😘🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈
The real issue is man went from theocracy to self-determination with all the fallout. Moses' father-in-law sneaked human administration in again whilst counseling him in the wilderness. It is not clear whether Moses sought God's opinion in the matter but we know how God eventually responded when Samuel went to Him BEFORE annointing Saul. We will never really know what governance truly is until Jesus Christ returns. What is very clear is that man lost capacity to rule - dominion - to the other side of the spirit realm and he's been lost in hit-or-miss ever since.
Shalom.
Great comment, but I think we also have to take into account provisional arrangements as described in the first several verses of Romans 13.
Paul may be addressing Christians specifically, regarding their relations with an
intermittently hostile State. But more may be gleaned from the passage about the purpose and proper mandate of secular government.
@@marcusonesimus3400 That passage still is in the same range of postfall make do. It presents human government as fait accompli but we know Paul to aspire to the kingdom of God as defined by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself - "thy kingdom come..."
The kingdom of God is within us. That's why christians often stick out like sore thumb once outside church.
But Biden is a true believer of you know, you know the thing.
Yeah, the thing!!
C’mon man.
What "thing"?
@@dbprice100 come on man, you know the thing.
@@tl1405 I have no clue what your talking about, use clear statements.
Short answer, only because of what the Democratic Party has become, not the Democratic Party of many years ago:
“No”.
Five minutes of saying that the Dems unbiblical and only five seconds of explaining why. The Christian right of today
Pick up a Bible and read it for yourself, what do you want? Like we all have time to sit around and prove everything to you? LAZY! Read it for yourself!
@@TMcConnaughhay I literally had 16 years of religious schooling. Anyone that had more religious schooling than me is in a seminary.
@@sporedoutofmymind I DON'T BUY IT!
@@TMcConnaughhay That's your problem. My diploma says what it says.
Satan has the trump regime firmly in the palm of his hand. No Christian should support the evil trump cult trump wanting to turn USA into a fascist dictatorship and evangelical leadership look the other way.
Well said!!!!
This conversation disappoints me as a man of God due to the fact how some human beings have been treated over the course of America. Unfortunately, some people need to walk in others shoes and experiences.
They wont get it unfortunately
yes all day , the pros out weigh the cons
Would Jesus look at their platforms or how they have loved others?
He would look at the platforms. God doesn't just Care about love. He cares about justice as well. God is not just a God of love he is a God of wrath, and will judge those who sin against him.
What book of the bible had Jesus discussing political policy?
@@mklemetson he spoke to the pharisees , who were the political authority in his region and often scrutinized what they said.... God is righteous .
@@matthewlangfordhypnosis6173Sorry mate, but that is not political policy. The bible never shows Jesus telling believers how to discern or influence Roman policy. Jesus' main criticism of what the Pharisees said was often when they were focussing too much on the legal interpretation of the Old Testament Scriptures instead of simply "loving your neighbor as yourself".
So my original point stands.
@@mklemetson okay
Politics is becoming like a drug addiction to Frank and that's why I am starting to listen to him less and less. It's sad to watch what it is doing to him.
Trump2020❤
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Let me solve the question right off..if your a real Christian your Should Not be voting Democrat
Whoever Frank Turek is, he is nuts! Like seriously take off the hat, it's absolutely just for show, wow. If you are voting with a Christian mindset you would vote democrat, not because perfect or anything but because there is underlying cultural policy that is Christ-like. Republican greed, hate and division is not Godly. And FYI abortion will happen exactly the same under either party. What would lower abortion rates is support for mothers, health care for all, maternity pay etc make life liveable (you know being Christ-like to people) and then it becomes far less likely for people to think they need abortions. Some serious nonsense spouted under a facade of Christianity in that short video. If you take political advice under a religious guise from this video you are taking advice from individuals willingly lying and spouting hyperbolic nonsense. Biden isn't some demon to fear, he is just the figure head for a party with the more Christian policy but who don't actively court that vote as much. You shouldn't need lying to to have your vote won.
Whew, say that after the election and I'll come back to your comment. 😳
Would be a good thing to say to this Frank Turner loon.
Any decision to vote for two candidates vying for the same office boils down to one simple Biblical question...which of the two competing candidates for that office will move the "needle" closer to God's will being done on earth as it is in heaven? For President this year, that is clearly Pres. Trump.
This is so stupid.
As a Christian, I could not vote for trump...I def lean more conservative and always typically try to vote policy not party....but it was to hard to vote for someone who caused so much unrest. I feared for my safety due to the rise in racism I faced let alone black men, since he was in power. Granted racism has and will always be, its what comes out of our mouths that defiles us.....I tried soooooooo hard to over look things but in the end felt like I chose Biden who was more peaceful.....ultimately laws get broken and change, but what God says remains regardless.The republican "platform" has biblical attributes and so does the democratic.....both aren't perfect and I feel a merge between the 2 would be best...this is why I vote policy.....this potus made it hard for ppl like me to vote for him. I think if I was a white male or female I would have possibly been able to overlook certain things, so I get it.....but not gonna lie ive been disappointed in our evangelicals pushing votes for trump regardless of what others have had to suffer due to his behavior ie posting ppl saying white power on twitter and many more....you could probably only understand where I'm coming from if u were black, but as a Christian i hoped evangelicals would have been more honest in addressing this, or maybe they were by being honest in being less vocal about it.......... makes one wonder.......thank God for his righteous justice regardless of parties, skin color ect..He judges hearts and His thoughts are not like mans....Praise God.....I am a fan of franks lectures tho:) remember folks God appoints authority
JOHN THE BAPTIST
leaped for joy in his mother’s womb at 6 months!
The Bible says,
“As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy!”
Luke 1:44
This means abortion is murder, and babies cry in agony, not joy, when they are murdered in the womb!
The Orthodox Church and God say abortion is murder!
“The LORD says, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you!”
Jeremiah 1:4-5
There are extremely rare exceptions but the most common cases occur when a girl seeks to murder her baby in her womb up to even the ninth month because her irresponsible boy friend left her after they were practicing sexual immorality outside of a responsible marriage union!
BUT CHRIST HAS CONQUERED DEATH, SIN, AND THE DEVIL!
There is mercy for the repentant sinner and no Christian can vote for a political candidate who supports this murder of babies in the womb!
Yes, of course.
Any other answer is preaching for the Devil. All are welcome in God's house and YOU all know it.
Goodbye America!!
Hello Gilead!!
Short answer: Yes
The question is: SHOULD Christians vote democrat
Man the usa is messed up
At this point, you should vote for the platform. The Democratic platform is so far off from Christianity. Republicans aren't great, but the platform is much closer to biblical principles. Trump is obviously not a godly man, but you would rather have a brute who protects religious freedom and at least calls abortion out for what it is than someone who does not care about Christian values or babies' lives. Cyrus was not godly, but he protected and promoted (helping rebuild the temple) the Jews' ability to worship.
th-cam.com/video/koMYrbJfuYg/w-d-xo.html Please watch and read Proverbs 6:16-19
If conservatives wanted to change Roe v Wade, they could have done so in the 90s when they had 7 or so judges. Plus changing Roe does not make abortion illegal except in states that choose to do so. Abortion was higher before Roe than it is today thanks to increased access to healthcare and contraceptives. Both parties benefit by politicizing this issue.
Most Americans have no idea what Marxism is if they think the Democratic party is Marxist.
That's SICK!
Trump is the most prolife president in history. He also signed budgets funding PP for four years without any fuss. Don't pull the prolife card for trump. Vote for libertarian Jo Jorgensen.
no he didn't!
A bit of a problem with Evangelicals is that they seem to not be concerned with regular people's problems and suffering. I remember railing at the distaste people had toward transsexuals or gay people's SUFFERING. I can just see Evangelicals squirming in their chairs at the thought of possibly empathizing with a sinner in my minds eye. They dare not even mention their own suffering to each other many times because it could be considered proof that God has abandoned them or something.
People turn to those who seem to care. That's why many Christians turn to the Democratic party. Christian many times aren't there for their suffering. "Pray the prayer. Then get in formation or go away." This very question must be click bait. You can't really think that a "Good Christian" must vote Republican? If it's not click bait then it's an example of the very thing I'm talking about. Evangelicals can't reconcile God's love for humanity and God's distaste for sin. So they go to the distaste by default. Almost as if THEY are the judge and are exempt from judgement themselves.
I'm not voting Democrat, but man, are we serious!
And what about distaste for the CHARACTER of the one leading? Does that not matter? He uses a few bible verses, takes a blasphemous picture in front of a church, somehow weaves the words “Almighty God” into a political speech and all of a sudden he’s GREAT. Go figure.
"so you think we should coddle sinners, patting their backs saying "oh you poor thing, your so oppressed and no one wants to enable your sinful practices. I will love you anyway but I won't mention that your lifestyle and sins are displeasing to God, because Jesus only cares about love and hugs and non confrontation."
@@TMcConnaughhay I go to church and only see sinners. I know that some that appear the least sinful are the most sinful many times. The question of "what should we do" is a good one though.
@@garrettbryan2717 We should love them ENOUGH to tell them the TRUTH!
The US needs a "Christian Heritage" Party.
where is the speech from these guys that says we need to hear from God, they are just using their cognition ???
I think they forgot the we can as Christian hear God!
I believe christians can vote for who they want but usually the republican candidate is usually closer to a Christian view
Can Christians VOTE MAGA?!
YES
Lol Republican party of gatez, green, trump is better😂😂😂😂 what a joke
(Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, And whoever curses Israel will be cursed.)
It's mentioned a few times in the Bible.
I choose the side that chooses to protect God's Nation.
Leave religion out of politics
Look at the constitution
That is the LAW
It is the word of man. The Bible is the Word of God. However we will not know true Theocracy until Jesus returns in glory.
Baby’s saved, or baby’s not saved. Baby’s saved is my vote. Trump put into place Supreme Court justices that overturned Roe, that helped the little ones. My choice is clear. "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." - Jesus. Matthew 18:6
Yeah but post roe v wade it's a state issue. So if I wanted to vote for Kamala, I can in good conscious because here in Florida they are allowing us to vote separately on abortion, so I can vote pro life on that.
It’s not only a life issue. The democrat party policies are completely against Biblical principles in a lot of ways. That is why you see RFK endorsing Conservative values and Trump. Values that in RFK’s younger days, along with JFK are long gone. Jesus said in Matthew 12:30 “ you are either with me or against me”. There is no middle ground.
These guys aren't of much use. As long as they can do clergy things they don't care.
We need a president for all people. You can’t be a president only for those who vote for you. Vote Biden 2020!🇺🇸
That's is impossible! You can be for Abortion AND Against Abortion. You can't be for Inva...Immigration AND Against it! est, est. Romans 3:15-16. (And people that are in the "Middle" tend to be middle "Left" so....There really is NO middle.
@@Ninja1live what is so unchristian about being for immigration? Jesus would have embraced immigrants illegal or not just as the Tanakh commands
@@aldairt4899 some democratic policy is Christ-like.
Satan has the trump regime firmly in the palm of his hand. No Christian should support the evil trump cult trump wanting to turn USA into a fascist dictatorship and evangelical leadership look the other way.
New flash yes lets vote for the lesser evil but lets not focus so much on it that it takes away from us doing the ministering and harvesting. Just saying. Seems like we put to much time and emphasis on politics when we could be focused the mission at hand. Again yes vote but no matter what its all going to get worse over time and there isn't a vote in the world that can stop it. But again vote lol
Satan has the trump regime in the palm of his hand. No Christian should vote for trump.
you vote for the wrong party and you won't be allowed to minister or harvest! China? Russia? North Korea?
Access the early church document, "Didache", 100 ad.
Seeing color is NOT divisive. Turning a blind eye to immoral treatment on the basis of color IS divisive.
Turek doesnt explain why he is so down on the Republicans?
Satan has the trump regime in the palm of his hand. No Christian should vote for trump.
SHLM & HaB (peace & love). The Name of the Creator is Hayah asher Hayah, as what He told Mose (Exodus 3:14), preserved in the Hebrew Scriptures. There is a curse to the G-o-d name (Isaiah 65:11-12), preserved in the Hebrew Scriptures. All followers of the Messiah are to do the 7 appointed times (Leviticus 23), but no more animal sacrifices, following the Crucifixion of the Messiah. We are now of the order of MLK TSDQ (King, righteous), to Whom ABRaHM tithed. Ask the Messiah to be your personal Savior. He is the Atoning Offering for mankind for the remission of sin ( 1 John 2:1-2). He said to him, I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me (John 14:6). If you believe the Messiah died on the cross, & Resurrected three days later (presenting Himself as First Fruits to the Father), please ask Him to be your Savior. He is the ONLY way to Everlasting Life.
Iwent to Calvery Chappel in Costa mesa when it was in a tent LOL Then moved into a place called the Lords House moved to Santa cruz and the non denomanational Church Turned to Orthadoxy I moved to Alaske to the Cathedril there then moved back to SC ChuckSmith was my teacher then The Orthadox church Im Just getting BACK to NoN denomanatiol church i STILL have a black priiest who is also my God father I read my bible theKING James and dpray a lot LOL LOL
BY THE WAY my Priest used to play BASS with Janus Joplin now and then
Not quite sure who the guy in the head is with the white cross but if he’s representing a man of God he needs to go sit down he was right on a few points electing someone with godly values and that’s about all the rest of it he can go sit down
Answer: No
We shouldn’t be afraid because God is in control. Also if LGBT individuals get more freedom or rights then us Christians should also. After all Joe Biden wants equality and Christians are people too.
No
Absolutely
My Grandfather had a BIG part in MAKING the A- BOMB and MY Grtandfather would NOT VOTE for Trump because he fought against that kind of thing with HITLER
Thank God for Separation of Church and State.. #DumpTrump
Yep keeps religion out of politics but also keeps the government completely out of religion at the same time
@@justincameron9661The first amendment is actually supposed to keep the government from dictating the exercise of religion. Look around to see the opposite; democratic governors insisting that churches stay closed while supermarkets, liquor stores, casinos, and large protests may continue.
what an oxymoron! You are thanking God for the very thing you want to be separated from. LOL!!!!
@@TMcConnaughhay Martin Luther Himself taught on the separation of church and state. Having religion in the government is the worst thing you can do to peoples faiths. Just Look at Europe