Can people NOT see! A political party does not represent me nor defines me, we the people at one point based on our beliefs and values defined the party. I can not consciously give my vote for a man who has based his candidacy on fear, lies, hatred and anger! WE can do a write in, it has happened in the past and can happen again, the issue..people, the individuals, needs to be in agreement who we will write in!
"Christians must turn from the endless cycle of voting for the lesser of evils and expecting an unrighteous act to produce a righteous result. From a communist to a cultist, choosing the lesser of two evils is still evil, and never should we do evil that good may come." ~ Michael Marcavage ( Thank you Fly Rod)
Wagner uses a reductionist argument to simplify the dilemma of voting one's conscience. The esteemed pastor (and so many others here) have a level (it's a high one) of spiritual maturity that does not permit surrender to Trump's unacceptably low bar of performance. So a non-vote for "XYZ" takes them to the spiritual high ground. This moral philosophizing was adequately repudiated back in 2016 by John MacArthur when he said that "He's not voting for Trump, he's voting for a worldview."
That's not much of a repudiation at all. Trump's "worldview" (if you can call it that) is nothing more than "Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump..." There is nothing--NOTHING--in Trumps life, anywhere, at any time, to suggest that he cares one bit about anything or anyone other than himself and his brand. So when he votes for Trump's worldview, he is voting for Trump and everything that comes with him.
@@76JStucki No, we did not get "everything that comes with him" because Trump's personal weaknesses slowed him down but did not define his presidency. You may not like Trump's persona, but he gets high marks for advocating a worldview consistent with Biblical values. I agree that Trump does not appear to empathize, and his administration's actions may be only for political reasons. But he did post some accomplishments.
Great commentary! As +Lucas Reynolds mentioned; praying for divine intervention. It's deplorable, and an indictment, that a country of 320 million is unable to muster better options from which to select our leaders and statesmen.
Why do people continue to say there are only two choices? America is not limited to only the R & D parties. There are other, albeit smaller, political parties in this country. If voters would educate themselves better they would learn about the other options. And yes, we will never have the "perfect" candidate to vote for so we will always have to use some discernment about who to vote for, the "lesser of two evils".
+Lois Hunter Also, the individuals have forgotten we can do write in's that is where the REAL power lies, with we the individual..if all that are not seeing a clear vision of choice wouldn't it speak volumes if we the people had the same write in?
Rick and Todd... thank you! Very straightforward discussion, grounded in truth. Politics and election seasons in particular, I equate to football. You do all you can to win within the rules, but there will be infractions along the way. That said, it would be ludicrous to equate a player who occasionally gets a holding call to a player who is constantly ripping off his helmet and beating opposing players with it. I truly appreciate the way you have shed light on many of the fallacious thought processes currently at play, and I pray your ministry and outreach grows exponentially! God bless!
Ted Cruz is STILL on the ballot! He only SUSPENDED his campaign -- not drop out, altogether. Please vote for the one who IS righteous, honest, god-fearing, pro-life, pro-Constitution, represents the people and represents all that is good and right. He looks to God; never misquotes the Bible.
+Lisa Clark And he is against the personhood of the baby and has supported laws that end with "and then you can kill the baby." He and his wife were under the Bushes when they increased financial support of Planned Barrenhood and he said nothing in opposition. A mature Christian is what we need, not one that is a legal positivist.
LUV Your Discussion! This Scripture came to mind a few days ago as I have been pondering this topic: 1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. this thought has also crossed my mind several times: if WE vote for candidates Knowing he/she are liars, thieves, adulterers, etc, HOW/WHY Would God Bless our City, State & Nation? It seems to me, that God allows us to fall when we do not obey Him. We see throughout history, peoples being tossed to & fro, fall into captivity, & even nations destroyed. If we want God to bless Us & the USA, I think we need to show Him we are deserving of His blessings, & I think, we can achieve this as we do our best in obeying His commandments.
God has used imperfect people all through scripture...I posted this a while back...Just my opinion. Peace. Many of our “Good Christian” Brothers and Sisters continue to denigrate Trump, refusing to realize or acknowledge the fact that by not voting, or voting for some third party candidate that has absolutely no chance to win, they are actually casting a vote for Hillary...And don't even attempt to argue this point... I've been holding off on writing this, because I didn't want to get into a potentially negative argument with my Christian Family. Unfortunately, their well-meant ignorance needs to be answered by a Christian who Loves Jesus, got saved late in life at age 30 and remembers what life was like in the “un-cloistered Church world” instead of the world of our cozy little existence, where all our time is spent with fellow Believers who mostly share the same ideals. Recently, it has been said that although America might house the world’s largest Christian population, research shows that our country, which was founded upon biblical principles more than two centuries ago, is actually in the midst of transitioning into a “post-Christian” nation from coast to coast. What does it mean to say we are in post-Christian times? Open your eyes and look around… It means that we have left the historical period in which our Christian religion and its Biblical principles were at the core of the moral fiber and behavior of the majority of Americans. It doesn’t mean that Christianity has disappeared, but it does mean that Christianity as the ideal and the prevalent cultural force is no longer dominant. Because of this, how can we expect this America to elect our “Perfect Candidate”… ”The Politician/Pastor” who will lead us with the Wisdom of Solomon and sinless grace, according to all our Biblical principles… The sad truth is, we cannot expect anything even close to this…the rest of our country would never stand for it. Maybe all of these discussions are for naught…maybe this whole affair is part of God’s “End-Times” scenario, where the good ole US doesn’t seem to play a big part, according to the Book of Revelation… But I’ll leave that possibility to my very learned Theologian Brothers and Sisters to argue… So my ultimate point is, while I am not a huge fan of Trump, I KNOW what the Clintons stand for and will most definitely implement should she become President... So by all means, stand on your "High-Horses" and Biblical Ideals of what you think our next President must be, and watch our beloved country disappear into oblivion...
Don't forget that the "down ballot" candidates ( Senate,Congress, and local office ) still need your vote... We need to support Christian, conservative, candidates for office !
+Amy Lichtenwalter I have, and am free to support whom I want to support... As you are in supporting whomever... This is a "none or neither of the above" election for me... As I find Clinton, Trump, and Johnson, lacking lacking in morals,no matter what the propaganda says... The Republican party has become the Repugnican party to me and their platform will be ignored by the "gilded toad"... The Libertarian Party is hostile to Christian social conservatives like me... And Gary Johnson says that "privately, he's pro-life", but says that supports the right of women to have abortions... At the least, he has "cognitive dissonance", and at the worst, he is evil... There has been 58 million abortions since 1973... That should trouble you... Then, there's drug legalization, starting with marijuana... So, I'll be voting for the " down ballot" Republican candidates for the Congress and Senate... As Ted Cruz said in his excellent speech, I am voting my conscience...
Thank you for this discussion! It couldn't be any more clear!! Far too many are in a frenzy about this and we haven't even had the Republican Convention. An awful lot can happen between now and the Convention. PRAY!!
There is not a biblical mandate requiring that we vote, especially when there are no godly candidates to vote for. We do not have to choose "the lesser of two evils." In fact, Christians must not share in choosing any form of evil. (1 Thess 5:22). If you sense God is telling you to sit out this election altogether, then it would be wise to obey Him. Of course, voting is not compulsory. By not voting you are exercising your right *not* to vote. Do not allow the world around you (or even Christians) to guilt you into voting because, "It is your right, and it is your civic duty." It would be a sin for you to go against your conscience, or cause another to go against theirs. (Rom 14:13-23). "Christians must turn from the endless cycle of voting for the lesser of evils and expecting an unrighteous act to produce a righteous result. From a communist to a cultist, choosing the lesser of two evils is still evil, and never should we do evil that good may come." ~ Michael Marcavage Sure, we can always vote for a third party, or write in someone if doing so temporarily soothes our civic conscience. The matter is truly between us and God. May He grant us the wisdom to wisely cast our vote, or sit this one out for His glory.
They are right about the problem with Lesser of two evils. Most points I have made myself. What if your choices are Hitler and Stalin? What then? Where do you draw the line before you get to that point?
Great answer Todd. I couldn't have said it better myself. Both Chump and Shillary fall below my bare minimum standards. They are both wicked people. I will be voting for the only 3rd party candidate who has any chance at all, LibertarIan Gary Johnson. And I am a lifelong Republican who almost always votes straight Republican.
They are all players except Trump, he is the only out sider. That's why the media hates him so much and do everything they can to make him look bad. All these parties including some of the republicans are in the game. The last outsider was Kennedy. The game players don't want an outsider ever again.
Man I LOVE this video he is sooooo right on. I will share, share and share this video. I am so thankful for you making and posting this. Keep up the good work.
Great video, there will never be a perfect candidate. Every man falls short of the glory of God, and I can vote for whomever I feel aligns with God's word (even as a write in). I don't have an obligation to choose either candidate, but I do have an obligation to pray for the elected leader of our country that God may bless them with conviction and discernment.
Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. I see a lot of comments here still clinging to Cruz - but God did not choose Cruz, He chose Trump. You would have rejected Saul of Tarsus too but fortunately for all of us God did not. As it's been said "God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called." The choice now is Trump or Clinton and God has chosen Trump. He's not perfect but neither are you and Hilary is not just imperfect, she's downright evil.
I was going to vote for Huckabee, then I was going to Vote for Cruz. I prayed and asked God for guidance because He knows who is the right one to vote for. So, I voted fro Trump. God knows what is in a man's heart. We don't.
THANK YOU SO MUCH---I've ask my local pastor, parents, friends and watch numerous cultural figures offer advice on the issue but you did the best job of intersecting the relevant political realities of today with relevant solutions of Gods word. Favorite Line:" I am not throwing my vote away when I vote for righteousness." -Amen! I now have assurance when I go to the voting both. 1. We are primarily a people we are here to serve and encourage thr growth of the kingdom of God2. The Words Politic: Good citizens, Polite: right=righteousness3. Must be involved but must not all political system be our savior4. How to Pick between to evils"Until Jesus of nazerus is running"- A Discover Who governors our governor, Leads your leader, influences your influencer?- Lie or Murder as My options? neither "3rd alterative" ----"I am not throwing my vote away when I vote and for righteousness" -----"My job is to make a case that their is a better way"-----"Even thou I am in a 2 party system I am not obligated to vote for one"------"History Lesson: Wig & Dems ----3rd party Republican- Lincioni"------"Increased articulation why we need a 3rd way"-----"Hope doesn't ride on AF1, (Politics is not my God, Jesus is)"-----"I must get more engaged in my city seeking it's welfare as a believe"-----" Dan 2:21- God gives people over to what they want (liars, greed, power hungry, lustful--we will pay for)"-----"Love doesn't say silent, it stands for right-ness, promote God"----"I will never give my vote to a intolerable vote evil man-liars or murders"----"Senator elected in Alaska - write in candid"----"Still Vote, Become more involved"---- "When you vote for someone you are giving you wholehearted approval of them even if done hale heartedly" Rom 14:22-23--- Real truth
Thank you. I am sharing this with my friends. I will be writing in a candidate. Thank you for sharing biblical wisdom on issues that affect us as Christians.
@@texasbasementbuilds4543 Not saying that at all. What I am saying is that one of the two people running is going to be elected. The write in candidate is not going to be elected. Just the two people running. Only one of them will be elected. So when you write in a name you open the door for the one person on the ticket who is the most evil to win. If you vote for one of them, you at least have a chance at eliminating the more evil of the two. Writing in a name is like not voting. It is a waste of time. If there are two people you don't like running, you vote for the one who will do the least amount of harm to America. The one who will kill the least amount of people is the one you vote for. Writing in a name accomplishes NOTHING.
@@kimkerchner2032 I completely agree. I disliked both candidates and believed both of them did not support Christian values. However, I did believe there was an obviously less awful choice.
@@Mel-zv1gf Yes, so you must vote for the one who will do the least amount of damage. But after this last election, it now looks like it does not matter how you vote. Elections are rigged. Your vote is irrelevant. The wicked party has it rigged to win. Elections are fixed, so your votes don't matter these days.
A two party system is so NOT what this country is about. For the love of God, don't follow loyally any party, just because you have in the past Each election must stand on the character of the candidate, his or her platforms, and future strategy of all candidates. One good point is that you are NOT obliged to vote for any particular party.
Seeking the welfare of the city is not the same as voting for biblical conflicts that both parties make known. I mean come on, presidential "DEBATE" hello! Red Flag! Its said all through the word about the flesh having debate. That's enough for me to stay free from yet another debate and not allow my vote to be in agreement with wickedness. Vote means you enfranchise or give freedom to either party, the right to do as they pleased without biblical standards.
You lie. The Lord NEVER said we must be involved in government. That's a man's opinion. Please tell the truth. He said pay your taxes, not vote for a king or president. He is my KING. Is He yours? I hope so. www.cfcindia.com/1-timothy
+Rainy Hollowed He did not say to pay your taxes. He said to render unto Caezar what is Caesars. Our Forefathers went to GREAT LENGTHS to make sure that we did NOT have a Caesar. Our coins say "under God" for a reason. Roman coins said no such thing.
They are all players except Trump, he is the only out sider. That's why the media hates him so much and do everything they can to make him look bad. All these parties including some of the republicans are in the game. The last outsider was Kennedy. The game players don't want an outsider ever again.
there's more than two candidates so you can vote for someone you believe in you can vote for someone not against someone and one of those other someone's is Gary Johnson who is on all 50 state ballots
The only way to keep from getting politicians one does not mean to get, is to make their vote say what they mean. If we keep making our votes say that we will vote for the lesser of two evils then we will continue to get evil. My vote is only going to mean what I mean. Will not vote for either Trump or Clinton.
If I know anything about this coming election it's that I'm not voting for Hillary. To be honest I don't even want to vote this time but the stakes are too high this election.
With everything Obama has been pulling, the stakes could have never been higher in any election in history! Obama is setting up a war after spending the last 8 years dividing America and the world! Nobody is going to be coordinated enough to defend them selves!
I am anti-abortion with that said I also can't tell anyone what to do with there own body. Where I come from is God gave us free will to accept him or turn away. if God gave us free will how would we take that away. and each person has to stand before God on there own account.
This is an amazing articulation of why we can not endorse evil, either way. We do have other options. We can not endorse evil in any way. You can not NOT vote. You can write in your vote. I will write in Ted Cruz.
Jesus, who refused to accept political office. (John 6:15) He taught his disciples to be “no part of the world” and made it clear that they should not take sides in political issues.-John 17:14, 16; 18:36; Mark 12:13-17.
+kelly patrick The very concept of "liberty" as we have known it in this country came from Scripture. !! For. 3:17 - Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Without God there is no liberty. Our founders never wanted Americans to forget it. That is why Lev. 9:10 is on the Liberty Bell. That is why Moses holding the Ten Commandments is on the facade of the U.S. Supreme Court. That is why it was once routine that the Ten Commandments were on city council properties all over America. Scripture tells us what to look for in a candidate. Ex 18:21 Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens: Our Founding Fathers warned us that we should elect Christians to public office. John Jay (Author of the Federalist Papers; Original Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Crt & gov. of NY) said, "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." There is so much Scripture that proves what you say is incorrect, that there simply is not enough space for it here.
+Cherrill Clifford The purpose of Jesus’ life and work was to fulfill both the Law (the books of Moses) and the Prophets (other Old Testament books). He did not destroy the Old Testament. But that doesn’t mean that Christians have to keep circumcision and all the other old laws. Jesus’ ministry caused many changes in the law - changes so dramatic that laws were “set aside” or declared “obsolete” (Hebrews 7:18; 8:13). Some laws remained the same, some were changed, and others were “abolished” (Ephesians 2:15). When Jesus said, “I have not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets,” he did not mean that each specific law would stay exactly the same. He meant that the purpose and message of the Law and the Prophets remain exactly the same. The Law and the Prophets pointed to him and were intended from the beginning to be fulfilled by him. Some of the specific laws of the old covenant are still valid, but many of them were set aside when Jesus came and fulfilled them by his life, death and resurrection. Matthew 5:17 is not a “proof” of any particular law, because this verse does not tell us which specific laws are still valid or which have been changed or set aside. True Christian always follow Jesus s teaching we don't cherry pick the Bible. If everyone could be like Jesus this world would be grand. But we can't that is why he died for us. I follow Jesus I WILL NOTE VOTE for so called Christians......
WHAT?? Not vote? You just said: 1. you're always going to have to vote for the lesser of 2 evils; 2. We,as Christians, have a duty to get involved and vote, BUT we're not supposed to vote for a sinner?? There's no perfect candidate. All have fallen short. Have you ever voted?? If so, you've just obliterated your own argument.
+psuegirl514 Thanks so much for your comment, we didn't say not to vote in the video. We did say that you have to figure out what your threshold for evil is and vote in a way that doesn't endorse evil.
Thanks for sharing this video. Though, I agree with your premise, I disagree with your conclusion. First of all, we have to pray through every decision and follow God's leading. I, personally, do not believe it is wise to write in a candidate or vote third party, when their victory is not viable. Secondly, I disagree with the inferred narrative that Trump is not worthy of our vote. God has raised Trump up, gave him the Republican nomination, beyond all odds, with the the entire world against him and his family. Insiders on both sides hate him and feel threatened by him because he is NOT owned by them, loves America, and loves liberty; including religious liberty and the life of the unborn. He will hold them accountable and clean house. Trump has to fight the Democrats, the Liberals, the Socialists, the Republican Rhinos, the self-righteous Evangelicals, and the corrupt Leftist media outlets that lie all day long about him, while hiding the evils of Hillary. She is pure evil. She believes in abortion, until the day a baby is born. She says that a baby has no constitutional rights, not even on the day of birth. She wants open borders and globalism. She wants to increase the number of unvetted Muslim refugees by 550%. She will appoint the next 2-5 Supreme Court Justices, ensuring a far left Supreme Court that will continue to strip Christians, Churches, and Christian institutions of our religious liberty. We will lose every case, as we are losing now, because of Leftist, Liberal judges. There is no appeal beyond the Supreme Court. They serve for LIFE. She will try to strip us of our Second Amendment Rights, which could launch us into another Civil War, because free Americans will not willingly surrender our guns. The Democrats will continue to bankrupt America, weaken our military, and give away our sovereignty to the UN. Obama just gave away the INTERNET. We are fighting for the life and preservation of our beloved country, as we know it. We are a free nation full of free people, who are fighting enemies from within and without. This is why they want our guns, our schools, our courts, our media outlets, and the Internet. It is about controlling the masses by the overreaching hand of the federal government, who will later be controlled by the UN. This is the one world government that is prophesied in the Bible. I don't believe that Trump is evil. I don't believe that Trump is beyond God's reach. I think it's self-righteous to acknowledge that we're all sinners, but can't vote for Trump. Trump is flawed, like all of us, but has many positive qualities. He has a history of helping people, of being generous, of caring for people. He has paid off people's mortgages, flown military home, flown a terminally sick child to get health treatment, when no one else would, given money, support to those forgotten and in need. He has always done this, from the past to present day help to those in the floods and hurricanes. These stories are just an inkling of the heart of a billionaire that has always been in the public eye, but was not intending to run for office. He has many defenders and testimonies from people who proclaim his kindness, his caring, and his generosity. You cannot hold him to the standard of a believer, when he wasn't one. He is a man who is changing and growing. He is now Pro-life! What some people call arrogance, others call strength, confidence, determination. He is plain speaking, blunt, concise, straight forward, and honest about the state of America and those in power. We don't need flowery promises and poetic speeches. We need the truth. Many Christians have been deceived by the corrupt media outlets that lie all day long FOR Hillary and AGAINST Trump. They want to bring a BB gun to a Civil War. Like it or not, there are only two viable options. It is not choosing the lesser of two evils. It's about making the BEST CHOICE possible. Abraham was flawed. David was flawed. Saul was flawed. Peter was flawed. Solomon, the wisest man in the world, was flawed. Moses was flawed. Paul was flawed. These flaws included lying and murdering! God has raised Donald Trump, a flawed man, to accomplish His purpose. We can rest in that, but fight against evil by voting AGAINST Hillary and FOR TRUMP. God is sovereign. He may or may not give Trump victory. If He does, then He is granting us a reprieve. If Hillary wins, then He is judging America. We are a nation that has allowed the slaughter of almost 60 million unborn babies. We deserve judgment, but pray for God's mercy. This is my humble opinion. May God be glorified, exalted, and His perfect will be done! May God have mercy upon us, our country, and our world!
i definitely don't agree with this. i would love to debate this one. Politics does nothing. Put it this way.... some Christians will vote for hillary and some will vote for Trump, Who is right. This guy is just saying i hope you vote for my guy. nobody seems to ever think this thing out And the bible does not say "ALL men are liars" Peace and Love i have never voted, just doesn't make sense to me... maybe i'm wrong but i haven't ever heard a compelling argument
+Fighter Doc ok, this verse didn't come to mind although I don't believe this is what David is saying. I will post a commentary underneath if you want to read. I was thinking more about the verse in Romans which is commonly misunderstood. 4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. if all men "are" liars, no one shall enter the kingdom of God ev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death I said in my haste - The Hebrew word used here means to flee in haste; to be in alarm and trepidation; and the idea seems to be, that the assertion referred to was made under the influence of excitement - or that it was not the result of sober reflection, but of an agitated state of mind. It does not necessarily imply that that which was said was false, for many true statements may be made when the mind is agitated and excited; but the meaning is, that he was then in such a state of mind as to suggest the belief, and to cause the assertion that all people are liars. Whether calm reflection would, or would not, confirm this impression of the moment would be a fair question after the excitement was over. Barnes All men are liars - Are false; no one is to be relied on. This was said in the time of his affliction, and this added much to his affliction. The meaning is that, in those circumstances of distress, no one came to his aid; no one sympathized with him; there was no one to whom he could unbosom himself; no one seemed to feel any interest in him. There were relatives on whom he might have supposed that he could rely; there may have been those to whom he had shown kindness in similar circumstances; there may have been old friends whose sympathy he might have had reason to expect; but all failed. No one came to help him. No one shed a tear over his sorrows. No one showed himself true to friendship, to sympathy, to gratitude. All people seemed to be false; and he was shut up to God alone
OK, I heard his commitment for Christianity but I didn't hear how he was going to vote, did you? So I'm no better off than I was before I listened to him. I'm with Stephen, praying that in God's awesomeness "WE" have the chance to vote for Ted. If that doesn't come about I refuse to vote for Clinton so I'll be a Trump man and keep my fingers crossed he is for the people.
They specifically made this video without mentioning any candidates so that will make this video Timeless. If you wish to vote in a way that will allow you to sleep peacefully after having done so, because you did not violate your conscience, Please have a look at Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party, You may find out he lines up more with your Values, and he is actually running
JOHN THE BAPTIST leaped for joy in his mother’s womb at 6 months! The Bible says, “As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy!” Luke 1:44 This means abortion is murder, and babies cry in agony, not joy, when they are murdered in the womb! The Orthodox Church and God say abortion is murder! “The LORD says, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you!” Jeremiah 1:4-5 There are extremely rare exceptions but the most common cases occur when a girl seeks to murder her baby in her womb up to even the ninth month because her irresponsible boy friend left her after they were practicing sexual immorality outside of a responsible marriage union! BUT CHRIST HAS CONQUERED DEATH, SIN, AND THE DEVIL! There is mercy for the repentant sinner and no Christian can vote for a political candidate who supports this murder of babies in the womb!
Respectively disagree with your interpretation and application of scripture in this case. I see it like, Stalin killed 35 million people and Khrushchev killed 5 million even though they were both murderers the Christian thing to do if the Russian people had a choice was to vote Khrushchev, that would have saved 30 million lives. We will see what happens. God is sovereign, to Him be all glory!
the bible you are using is corrupted , the king james bible is the most accurate, Jeremy ah 29 ,7 , "And seek the PEACE of the city whither I have caused you to be carried away captives and pray unto the LORD for it :for in the PEACE thereof shall ye have PEACE ." !
+Spiderman NESBIT Thanks for your comment. Here's an about the KJV. Take a look and let us know what you think. bible.org/article/why-i-do-not-think-king-james-bible-best-translation-available-today
You have the right to not vote at all because God is not a Democrat nor Republican. The good news is not Gospel + political affiliation. We are ambassadors for Christ. Politics is tied only to earthly kingdoms. We must remember FIRST that our kingdom and citizenship are in heaven. However, as a Christian you can vote Democrat with a clear conscience. Democrats are pro-choice (and not pro-abortion) just like God because God does not force morality on people but instead honors people's choices (independent of whether the choices are right or wrong). On the other hand, many can't see how Christians can be Republicans who support a convicted sexual predator and pathological liar who is totally opposite of Christ whom they profess to serve. Some say that God can use an evil leader but the Old Testament shows that after God uses the evil leader he punishes and even destroys the evil leader and followers. The bible does say who you should vote for. You should vote for someone who will give you a "tranquil and quiet life full of godliness and dignity". (1Tim 2:1-2) Who can that be? It is someone who is the most Christ-like. Not one that is the least evil. Why? Because integrity and character matters (by their fruits you shall know them) and policies don't matter as much because most candidates once elected don't follow their party, platform, and promised policies.
Voting for the amount of evil that you are comfortable with? Unfortunately, people can be comfortable with something that crosses God's boundaries. The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth (Pr 8:13). Donald Trumph embodies that which we are called to hate, even more overtly than Hillary. "Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such." Are Christians advocating for someone like this or someone contrary to what we are to hate? Paul expounded these principles in his letters, but the above are the basics condensed. These principles were given to people who were not perfect to screen people who were not perfect. Not following them is worse that doing nothing, it is anti-Christ regardless of how you feel or what you intend to happen. Refusing to advocate the lesser of two evils is not doing nothing. Each time Christians prostitute themselves to advocate someone in opposition to what God's Word outlines, they are teaching the world to follow a lower standard than God's Word. They are teaching the world to trust in their own strength and to live by sight, not by faith in obedience to God regardless of what doom threatens to come as a result of it. Well-meaning intentions cannot justify disobedience regarding something that is wrong in and of itself. Candidates that Christians advocate for a position influencing public morality should be, um, ah, eh, - moral. Though God has even used Lucifer to fulfill His will, or can take lemons to make lemonade, Christians should not be the one offering up the lemons. "Cannot not vote." I understand what he saying in regards to write in candidates or 3rd party. Good point. However, if your election does not allow write ins, protest the best you can against the candidates, but do not feel compelled to vote merely for voting's sake. Over 4 million U.S. citizens who have done nothing wrong will not have the option of voting: they live in U.S. territories like Puerto Rico.
Great video! Definitely praying for some divine intervention this election year. :)
+Lucas Reynolds Thanks Lucas!
Can people NOT see! A political party does not represent me nor defines me, we the people at one point based on our beliefs and values defined the party. I can not consciously give my vote for a man who has based his candidacy on fear, lies, hatred and anger! WE can do a write in, it has happened in the past and can happen again, the issue..people, the individuals, needs to be in agreement who we will write in!
+Nanette Gray #writeincruz
+Nanette Gray consider facebook.com/TheConstitutionParty/?hc_location=ufi
The Constitution Party is looking promising
"Christians must turn from the endless cycle of voting for the lesser of
evils and expecting an unrighteous act to produce a righteous result.
From a communist to a cultist, choosing the lesser of two evils is still
evil, and never should we do evil that good may come."
~ Michael Marcavage ( Thank you Fly Rod)
Wagner uses a reductionist argument to simplify the dilemma of voting one's conscience. The esteemed pastor (and so many others here) have a level (it's a high one) of spiritual maturity that does not permit surrender to Trump's unacceptably low bar of performance. So a non-vote for "XYZ" takes them to the spiritual high ground. This moral philosophizing was adequately repudiated back in 2016 by John MacArthur when he said that "He's not voting for Trump, he's voting for a worldview."
That's not much of a repudiation at all. Trump's "worldview" (if you can call it that) is nothing more than "Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump..." There is nothing--NOTHING--in Trumps life, anywhere, at any time, to suggest that he cares one bit about anything or anyone other than himself and his brand. So when he votes for Trump's worldview, he is voting for Trump and everything that comes with him.
@@76JStucki No, we did not get "everything that comes with him" because Trump's personal weaknesses slowed him down but did not define his presidency. You may not like Trump's persona, but he gets high marks for advocating a worldview consistent with Biblical values. I agree that Trump does not appear to empathize, and his administration's actions may be only for political reasons. But he did post some accomplishments.
Great commentary! As +Lucas Reynolds mentioned; praying for divine intervention. It's deplorable, and an indictment, that a country of 320 million is unable to muster better options from which to select our leaders and statesmen.
Why do people continue to say there are only two choices? America is not limited to only the R & D parties. There are other, albeit smaller, political parties in this country. If voters would educate themselves better they would learn about the other options. And yes, we will never have the "perfect" candidate to vote for so we will always have to use some discernment about who to vote for, the "lesser of two evils".
+Lois Hunter Also, the individuals have forgotten we can do write in's that is where the REAL power lies, with we the individual..if all that are not seeing a clear vision of choice wouldn't it speak volumes if we the people had the same write in?
I refuse to vote for evil... the lesser or the greater. No thanks for your advice.
Mine will be Ted Cruz!
hudson steele If the RNConvention does not exercise its option to nominate Ted so he is on the ballot will you still vote for (ie write in) Ted?
They will, but if not, I will.
I hope that a miracle happens at the convention and the delegates vote for Cruz. That would be awesome. If not, I will #WriteInCruz
Amen... our only hope is Ted Cruz.
I was with you Stephen, but it does not look like that has happened - I wish Cruz would bravely start a 3rd party!! It seems crucial at this point!
im sorry but republican economics is trash. trickle down doesn't work
Thank you for posting this awesome commentary! Blessings!
+Angelin Higgins Thanks for the encouragement!
Excellent video! Very much appreciate this perspective, articulated in such a clear, reasonable manner. Sharing on my social media. Thanks!
Rick and Todd... thank you! Very straightforward discussion, grounded in truth.
Politics and election seasons in particular, I equate to football. You do all you can to win within the rules, but there will be infractions along the way.
That said, it would be ludicrous to equate a player who occasionally gets a holding call to a player who is constantly ripping off his helmet and beating opposing players with it.
I truly appreciate the way you have shed light on many of the fallacious thought processes currently at play, and I pray your ministry and outreach grows exponentially!
God bless!
+David Pipkin Thanks for the encouragement!
Ted Cruz is STILL on the ballot! He only SUSPENDED his campaign -- not drop out, altogether. Please vote for the one who IS righteous, honest, god-fearing, pro-life, pro-Constitution, represents the people and represents all that is good and right. He looks to God; never misquotes the Bible.
+Lisa Clark LOL
+Lisa Clark consider facebook.com/TheConstitutionParty/?hc_location=ufi
The Constitution Party is looking promising
+Lisa Clark And he is against the personhood of the baby and has supported laws that end with "and then you can kill the baby." He and his wife were under the Bushes when they increased financial support of Planned Barrenhood and he said nothing in opposition. A mature Christian is what we need, not one that is a legal positivist.
+Tony Robinson Every word you wrote here is a lie. Cruz NEVER did any such things.
Amen, Lisa.
thank you for this video. I have shared it over and over again!
Praying for divine intervention before the Convention!
+K Parker Thanks for the encouragement. We'll glad you found the video helpful!
LUV Your Discussion! This Scripture came to mind a few days ago as I have been pondering this topic: 1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. this thought has also crossed my mind several times: if WE vote for candidates Knowing he/she are liars, thieves, adulterers, etc, HOW/WHY Would God Bless our City, State & Nation?
It seems to me, that God allows us to fall when we do not obey Him. We see throughout history, peoples being tossed to & fro, fall into captivity, & even nations destroyed.
If we want God to bless Us & the USA, I think we need to show Him we are deserving of His blessings, & I think, we can achieve this as we do our best in obeying His commandments.
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God has used imperfect people all through scripture...I posted this a while back...Just my opinion. Peace.
Many of our “Good Christian” Brothers and Sisters continue to denigrate Trump, refusing to realize or acknowledge the fact that by not voting, or voting for some third party candidate that has absolutely no chance to win, they are actually casting a vote for Hillary...And don't even attempt to argue this point...
I've been holding off on writing this, because I didn't want to get into a potentially negative argument with my Christian Family.
Unfortunately, their well-meant ignorance needs to be answered by a Christian who Loves Jesus, got saved late in life at age 30 and remembers what life was like in the “un-cloistered Church world” instead of the world of our cozy little existence, where all our time is spent with fellow Believers who mostly share the same ideals.
Recently, it has been said that although America might house the world’s largest Christian population, research shows that our country, which was founded upon biblical principles more than two centuries ago, is actually in the midst of transitioning into a “post-Christian” nation from coast to coast.
What does it mean to say we are in post-Christian times?
Open your eyes and look around…
It means that we have left the historical period in which our Christian religion and its Biblical principles were at the core of the moral fiber and behavior of the majority of Americans. It doesn’t mean that Christianity has disappeared, but it does mean that Christianity as the ideal and the prevalent cultural force is no longer dominant.
Because of this, how can we expect this America to elect our “Perfect Candidate”…
”The Politician/Pastor” who will lead us with the Wisdom of Solomon and sinless grace, according to all our Biblical principles…
The sad truth is, we cannot expect anything even close to this…the rest of our country would never stand for it.
Maybe all of these discussions are for naught…maybe this whole affair is part of God’s “End-Times” scenario, where the good ole US doesn’t seem to play a big part, according to the Book of Revelation…
But I’ll leave that possibility to my very learned Theologian Brothers and Sisters to argue…
So my ultimate point is, while I am not a huge fan of Trump, I KNOW what the Clintons stand for and will most definitely implement should she become President...
So by all means, stand on your "High-Horses" and Biblical Ideals of what you think our next President must be, and watch our beloved country disappear into oblivion...
I could not agree more, Ken, with everything you posted. It's so common sense that I can't explain why people don't get it.
Great Video with Biblical support! I'm praying for our country. We need God's mercy. Let Him open the eyes and hearts of the blind.
+Dan Thompson Thanks Dan! And way to go for praying!
I will not in good faith or conscience vote for either Trump or Hillary. I will either write-in Ted Cruz or hand in an empty ballot.
Be sure and write in.
Some states don't allow write-in ballots. If that is the case, my ballot will be blank because as I said. I do not support the other two candidates.
Linda Stoever Nor do I.
Don't forget that the "down ballot" candidates ( Senate,Congress, and local office ) still need your vote...
We need to support Christian, conservative, candidates for office !
+Amy Lichtenwalter
I have, and am free to support whom I want to support... As you are in supporting whomever...
This is a "none or neither of the above" election for me... As I find Clinton, Trump, and Johnson, lacking lacking in morals,no matter what the propaganda says...
The Republican party has become the Repugnican party to me and their platform will be ignored by the "gilded toad"...
The Libertarian Party is hostile to Christian social conservatives like me...
And Gary Johnson says that "privately, he's pro-life", but says that supports the right of women to have abortions... At the least, he has "cognitive dissonance", and at the worst, he is evil... There has been 58 million abortions since 1973...
That should trouble you...
Then, there's drug legalization, starting with marijuana...
So, I'll be voting for the " down ballot" Republican candidates for the Congress and Senate...
As Ted Cruz said in his excellent speech, I am voting my conscience...
Thank you for this discussion! It couldn't be any more clear!! Far too many are in a frenzy about this and we haven't even had the Republican Convention. An awful lot can happen between now and the Convention. PRAY!!
There is not a biblical mandate requiring that we vote, especially when there are no godly candidates to vote for. We do not have to choose "the lesser of two evils." In fact, Christians must not share in choosing any form of evil. (1 Thess 5:22). If you sense God is telling you to sit out this election altogether, then it would be wise to obey Him. Of course, voting is not compulsory. By not voting you are exercising your right *not* to vote. Do not allow the world around you (or even Christians) to guilt you into voting because, "It is your right, and it is your civic duty." It would be a sin for you to go against your conscience, or cause another to go against theirs. (Rom 14:13-23).
"Christians must turn from the endless cycle of voting for the lesser of evils and expecting an unrighteous act to produce a righteous result. From a communist to a cultist, choosing the lesser of two evils is still evil, and never should we do evil that good may come."
~ Michael Marcavage
Sure, we can always vote for a third party, or write in someone if doing so temporarily soothes our civic conscience. The matter is truly between us and God. May He grant us the wisdom to wisely cast our vote, or sit this one out for His glory.
"do not vote for a habitual liar">
Well, the two major candidates are both habitual liars....
So vote for the Constitutional Party Candidate...
They are right about the problem with Lesser of two evils. Most points I have made myself. What if your choices are Hitler and Stalin? What then? Where do you draw the line before you get to that point?
+Patient Grasshopper consider facebook.com/TheConstitutionParty/?hc_location=ufi
The Constitution Party is looking promising
THIS IS THE BEST VOTING ADVICE I HAVE EVER HAD 2020 HERE WE GO. HES SO RIGHT ABOUT THE TAKING CARE OF OUR OWN CITIES!!!!
Great answer Todd. I couldn't have said it better myself. Both Chump and Shillary fall below my bare minimum standards. They are both wicked people. I will be voting for the only 3rd party candidate who has any chance at all, LibertarIan Gary Johnson. And I am a lifelong Republican who almost always votes straight Republican.
Please have a look at Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party, You may find out he lines up more with your Values.
They are all players except Trump, he is the only out sider. That's why the media hates him so much and do everything they can to make him look bad. All these parties including some of the republicans are in the game. The last outsider was Kennedy. The game players don't want an outsider ever again.
Man I LOVE this video he is sooooo right on. I will share, share and share this video. I am so thankful for you making and posting this. Keep up the good work.
Great video, there will never be a perfect candidate. Every man falls short of the glory of God, and I can vote for whomever I feel aligns with God's word (even as a write in). I don't have an obligation to choose either candidate, but I do have an obligation to pray for the elected leader of our country that God may bless them with conviction and discernment.
Romans 3:10 As it is written, THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NO NOT ONE.
Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
I see a lot of comments here still clinging to Cruz - but God did not choose Cruz, He chose Trump. You would have rejected Saul of Tarsus too but fortunately for all of us God did not. As it's been said "God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called." The choice now is Trump or Clinton and God has chosen Trump. He's not perfect but neither are you and Hilary is not just imperfect, she's downright evil.
I was going to vote for Huckabee, then I was going to Vote for Cruz. I prayed and asked God for guidance because He knows who is the right one to vote for. So, I voted fro Trump. God knows what is in a man's heart. We don't.
THANK YOU SO MUCH---I've ask my local pastor, parents, friends and watch numerous cultural figures offer advice on the issue but you did the best job of intersecting the relevant political realities of today with relevant solutions of Gods word. Favorite Line:" I am not throwing my vote away when I vote for righteousness." -Amen! I now have assurance when I go to the voting both. 1. We are primarily a people we are here to serve and encourage thr growth of the kingdom of God2. The Words Politic: Good citizens, Polite: right=righteousness3. Must be involved but must not all political system be our savior4. How to Pick between to evils"Until Jesus of nazerus is running"- A Discover Who governors our governor, Leads your leader, influences your influencer?- Lie or Murder as My options? neither "3rd alterative" ----"I am not throwing my vote away when I vote and for righteousness" -----"My job is to make a case that their is a better way"-----"Even thou I am in a 2 party system I am not obligated to vote for one"------"History Lesson: Wig & Dems ----3rd party Republican- Lincioni"------"Increased articulation why we need a 3rd way"-----"Hope doesn't ride on AF1, (Politics is not my God, Jesus is)"-----"I must get more engaged in my city seeking it's welfare as a believe"-----" Dan 2:21- God gives people over to what they want (liars, greed, power hungry, lustful--we will pay for)"-----"Love doesn't say silent, it stands for right-ness, promote God"----"I will never give my vote to a intolerable vote evil man-liars or murders"----"Senator elected in Alaska - write in candid"----"Still Vote, Become more involved"---- "When you vote for someone you are giving you wholehearted approval of them even if done hale heartedly" Rom 14:22-23--- Real truth
WaitFor A Ted Cruz To Come Back!
Well this hasn't aged well...
Thank you. I am sharing this with my friends. I will be writing in a candidate. Thank you for sharing biblical wisdom on issues that affect us as Christians.
You have just wasted your vote
@@kimkerchner2032 IYO..thats foolish to say. So your saying you have to be Republican or Democrat to vote. You are wrong.
@@texasbasementbuilds4543 Not saying that at all. What I am saying is that one of the two people running is going to be elected. The write in candidate is not going to be elected. Just the two people running. Only one of them will be elected. So when you write in a name you open the door for the one person on the ticket who is the most evil to win. If you vote for one of them, you at least have a chance at eliminating the more evil of the two. Writing in a name is like not voting. It is a waste of time. If there are two people you don't like running, you vote for the one who will do the least amount of harm to America. The one who will kill the least amount of people is the one you vote for. Writing in a name accomplishes NOTHING.
@@kimkerchner2032 I completely agree. I disliked both candidates and believed both of them did not support Christian values. However, I did believe there was an obviously less awful choice.
@@Mel-zv1gf Yes, so you must vote for the one who will do the least amount of damage. But after this last election, it now looks like it does not matter how you vote. Elections are rigged. Your vote is irrelevant. The wicked party has it rigged to win. Elections are fixed, so your votes don't matter these days.
There are more than two candidates.
+Greg Adams consider facebook.com/TheConstitutionParty/?hc_location=ufi
The Constitution Party is looking promising
A two party system is so NOT what this country is about. For the love of God, don't follow loyally any party, just because you have in the past Each election must stand on the character of the candidate, his or her platforms, and future strategy of all candidates. One good point is that you are NOT obliged to vote for any particular party.
Seeking the welfare of the city is not the same as voting for biblical conflicts that both parties make known. I mean come on, presidential "DEBATE" hello! Red Flag! Its said all through the word about the flesh having debate. That's enough for me to stay free from yet another debate and not allow my vote to be in agreement with wickedness. Vote means you enfranchise or give freedom to either party, the right to do as they pleased without biblical standards.
These guys are giving their opinions, that's all.... their opinions.
You lie. The Lord NEVER said we must be involved in government. That's a man's opinion. Please tell the truth. He said pay your taxes, not vote for a king or president. He is my KING. Is He yours? I hope so. www.cfcindia.com/1-timothy
+Rainy Hollowed He did not say to pay your taxes. He said to render unto Caezar what is Caesars. Our Forefathers went to GREAT LENGTHS to make sure that we did NOT have a Caesar. Our coins say "under God" for a reason. Roman coins said no such thing.
Caesar was the ruler. He headed the government. One day, the government will be ruled by Christ.
Joseph and Mary traveled from one place to another because they had to pay taxes to a dictator.
Wow. As a result I am going to write in Mike Huckabee. Honest.
Please have a look at Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party, You may find out he lines up more with your Values. and he is actually running
They are all players except Trump, he is the only out sider. That's why the media hates him so much and do everything they can to make him look bad. All these parties including some of the republicans are in the game. The last outsider was Kennedy. The game players don't want an outsider ever again.
there's more than two candidates so you can vote for someone you believe in you can vote for someone not against someone and one of those other someone's is Gary Johnson who is on all 50 state ballots
Thank you for your guidance. God bless!
This is amazing , thank you !
Fortunately, Donald won't be the nominee.
+Matthew Morris Well that's doesn't appear to be the case now.
+Matthew Morris I pray he won't! 🙏
The only way to keep from getting politicians one does not mean to get, is to make their vote say what they mean. If we keep making our votes say that we will vote for the lesser of two evils then we will continue to get evil. My vote is only going to mean what I mean. Will not vote for either Trump or Clinton.
If I know anything about this coming election it's that I'm not voting for Hillary. To be honest I don't even want to vote this time but the stakes are too high this election.
+deadeye851 Thanks for your comment. Did you get a chance to check out the video?
Real Truth. Real Quick.
Yes I have.
In your opinion, have the stakes ever been too high in past elections and do you ever see the stakes not being too high again in the future?
With everything Obama has been pulling, the stakes could have never been higher in any election in history! Obama is setting up a war after spending the last 8 years dividing America and the world! Nobody is going to be coordinated enough to defend them selves!
I am anti-abortion with that said I also can't tell anyone what to do with there own body. Where I come from is God gave us free will to accept him or turn away. if God gave us free will how would we take that away. and each person has to stand before God on there own account.
Either candidate, or write in??? Totally leaving Gary Johnson out of this, that's moronic and adds to the 2 party system bullcrap you are against.
Please have a look at Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party, You may find out he lines up more with your Values.
Don’t waste your vote, please. Support of Israel, opposing abortion and biblical marriage are key determinants for who to choose.
This is an amazing articulation of why we can not endorse evil, either way. We do have other options. We can not endorse evil in any way. You can not NOT vote. You can write in your vote. I will write in Ted Cruz.
Wait, what about that evil part? What, you didn't know Cruz was evil? Wake up! More lies than all of the GOP candidates combined.
Name the lies.
Please have a look at Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party, You may find out he lines up more with your Values. vs anyone else running.
Here ya go Cherrill... lmgtfy.com/?q=Ted+Cruz+lies
Jesus, who refused to accept political office. (John 6:15) He taught his disciples to be “no part of the world” and made it clear that they should not take sides in political issues.-John 17:14, 16; 18:36; Mark 12:13-17.
+kelly patrick The very concept of "liberty" as we have known it in this country came from Scripture. !! For. 3:17 - Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Without God there is no liberty. Our founders never wanted Americans to forget it. That is why Lev. 9:10 is on the Liberty Bell. That is why Moses holding the Ten Commandments is on the facade of the U.S. Supreme Court. That is why it was once routine that the Ten Commandments were on city council properties all over America. Scripture tells us what to look for in a candidate. Ex 18:21 Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens: Our Founding Fathers warned us that we should elect Christians to public office. John Jay (Author of the Federalist Papers; Original Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Crt & gov. of NY) said, "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." There is so much Scripture that proves what you say is incorrect, that there simply is not enough space for it here.
+Cherrill Clifford The purpose of Jesus’ life and work was to fulfill both the Law (the books of Moses) and the Prophets (other Old Testament books). He did not destroy the Old Testament. But that doesn’t mean that Christians have to keep circumcision and all the other old laws. Jesus’ ministry caused many changes in the law - changes so dramatic that laws were “set aside” or declared “obsolete” (Hebrews 7:18; 8:13). Some laws remained the same, some were changed, and others were “abolished” (Ephesians 2:15).
When Jesus said, “I have not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets,” he did not mean that each specific law would stay exactly the same. He meant that the purpose and message of the Law and the Prophets remain exactly the same. The Law and the Prophets pointed to him and were intended from the beginning to be fulfilled by him.
Some of the specific laws of the old covenant are still valid, but many of them were set aside when Jesus came and fulfilled them by his life, death and resurrection. Matthew 5:17 is not a “proof” of any particular law, because this verse does not tell us which specific laws are still valid or which have been changed or set aside.
True Christian always follow Jesus s teaching we don't cherry pick the Bible. If everyone could be like Jesus this world would be grand. But we can't that is why he died for us. I follow Jesus I WILL NOTE VOTE for so called Christians......
We are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC NOT a democratic republic look up the word democratic.
We don't have to choose between Heroin or Crack ! I
WHAT?? Not vote? You just said: 1. you're always going to have to vote for the lesser of 2 evils; 2. We,as Christians, have a duty to get involved and vote, BUT we're not supposed to vote for a sinner??
There's no perfect candidate. All have fallen short.
Have you ever voted?? If so, you've just obliterated your own argument.
+psuegirl514 Thanks so much for your comment, we didn't say not to vote in the video. We did say that you have to figure out what your threshold for evil is and vote in a way that doesn't endorse evil.
RUBBAGE- biblical values human sacrifice has got to bestowed
Thanks for sharing this video. Though, I agree with your premise, I disagree with your conclusion. First of all, we have to pray through every decision and follow God's leading. I, personally, do not believe it is wise to write in a candidate or vote third party, when their victory is not viable. Secondly, I disagree with the inferred narrative that Trump is not worthy of our vote. God has raised Trump up, gave him the Republican nomination, beyond all odds, with the the entire world against him and his family. Insiders on both sides hate him and feel threatened by him because he is NOT owned by them, loves America, and loves liberty; including religious liberty and the life of the unborn. He will hold them accountable and clean house. Trump has to fight the Democrats, the Liberals, the Socialists, the Republican Rhinos, the self-righteous Evangelicals, and the corrupt Leftist media outlets that lie all day long about him, while hiding the evils of Hillary.
She is pure evil. She believes in abortion, until the day a baby is born. She says that a baby has no constitutional rights, not even on the day of birth. She wants open borders and globalism. She wants to increase the number of unvetted Muslim refugees by 550%. She will appoint the next 2-5 Supreme Court Justices, ensuring a far left Supreme Court that will continue to strip Christians, Churches, and Christian institutions of our religious liberty. We will lose every case, as we are losing now, because of Leftist, Liberal judges. There is no appeal beyond the Supreme Court. They serve for LIFE. She will try to strip us of our Second Amendment Rights, which could launch us into another Civil War, because free Americans will not willingly surrender our guns. The Democrats will continue to bankrupt America, weaken our military, and give away our sovereignty to the UN. Obama just gave away the INTERNET. We are fighting for the life and preservation of our beloved country, as we know it. We are a free nation full of free people, who are fighting enemies from within and without. This is why they want our guns, our schools, our courts, our media outlets, and the Internet. It is about controlling the masses by the overreaching hand of the federal government, who will later be controlled by the UN. This is the one world government that is prophesied in the Bible.
I don't believe that Trump is evil. I don't believe that Trump is beyond God's reach. I think it's self-righteous to acknowledge that we're all sinners, but can't vote for Trump. Trump is flawed, like all of us, but has many positive qualities. He has a history of helping people, of being generous, of caring for people. He has paid off people's mortgages, flown military home, flown a terminally sick child to get health treatment, when no one else would, given money, support to those forgotten and in need. He has always done this, from the past to present day help to those in the floods and hurricanes. These stories are just an inkling of the heart of a billionaire that has always been in the public eye, but was not intending to run for office. He has many defenders and testimonies from people who proclaim his kindness, his caring, and his generosity. You cannot hold him to the standard of a believer, when he wasn't one. He is a man who is changing and growing. He is now Pro-life! What some people call arrogance, others call strength, confidence, determination. He is plain speaking, blunt, concise, straight forward, and honest about the state of America and those in power. We don't need flowery promises and poetic speeches. We need the truth.
Many Christians have been deceived by the corrupt media outlets that lie all day long FOR Hillary and AGAINST Trump. They want to bring a BB gun to a Civil War. Like it or not, there are only two viable options. It is not choosing the lesser of two evils. It's about making the BEST CHOICE possible. Abraham was flawed. David was flawed. Saul was flawed. Peter was flawed. Solomon, the wisest man in the world, was flawed. Moses was flawed. Paul was flawed. These flaws included lying and murdering! God has raised Donald Trump, a flawed man, to accomplish His purpose. We can rest in that, but fight against evil by voting AGAINST Hillary and FOR TRUMP.
God is sovereign. He may or may not give Trump victory. If He does, then He is granting us a reprieve. If Hillary wins, then He is judging America. We are a nation that has allowed the slaughter of almost 60 million unborn babies. We deserve judgment, but pray for God's mercy.
This is my humble opinion. May God be glorified, exalted, and His perfect will be done! May God have mercy upon us, our country, and our world!
I do not endorse either party
i definitely don't agree with this. i would love to debate this one. Politics does nothing. Put it this way.... some Christians will vote for hillary and some will vote for Trump, Who is right. This guy is just saying i hope you vote for my guy. nobody seems to ever think this thing out
And the bible does not say "ALL men are liars"
Peace and Love
i have never voted, just doesn't make sense to me... maybe i'm wrong but i haven't ever heard a compelling argument
+dwhite2173 Psalm 116:11 Way to prove the point.
+Fighter Doc
ok, this verse didn't come to mind although I don't believe this is what David is saying. I will post a commentary underneath if you want to read.
I was thinking more about the verse in Romans which is commonly misunderstood.
4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
if all men "are" liars, no one shall enter the kingdom of God
ev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death
I said in my haste - The Hebrew word used here means to flee in haste; to be in alarm and trepidation; and the idea seems to be, that the assertion referred to was made under the influence of excitement - or that it was not the result of sober reflection, but of an agitated state of mind. It does not necessarily imply that that which was said was false, for many true statements may be made when the mind is agitated and excited; but the meaning is, that he was then in such a state of mind as to suggest the belief, and to cause the assertion that all people are liars. Whether calm reflection would, or would not, confirm this impression of the moment would be a fair question after the excitement was over.
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All men are liars - Are false; no one is to be relied on. This was said in the time of his affliction, and this added much to his affliction. The meaning is that, in those circumstances of distress, no one came to his aid; no one sympathized with him; there was no one to whom he could unbosom himself; no one seemed to feel any interest in him. There were relatives on whom he might have supposed that he could rely; there may have been those to whom he had shown kindness in similar circumstances; there may have been old friends whose sympathy he might have had reason to expect; but all failed. No one came to help him. No one shed a tear over his sorrows. No one showed himself true to friendship, to sympathy, to gratitude. All people seemed to be false; and he was shut up to God alone
OK, I heard his commitment for Christianity but I didn't hear how he was going to vote, did you? So I'm no better off than I was before I listened to him.
I'm with Stephen, praying that in God's awesomeness "WE" have the chance to vote for Ted.
If that doesn't come about I refuse to vote for Clinton so I'll be a Trump man and keep my fingers crossed he is for the people.
+joanne wells - No, it's Terry her husband.
They specifically made this video without mentioning any candidates so that will make this video Timeless. If you wish to vote in a way that will allow you to sleep peacefully after having done so, because you did not violate your conscience, Please have a look at Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party, You may find out he lines up more with your Values, and he is actually running
Our family will write in Ted Cruz!
I agree 100% with Ted. Dows he has a website to follow
A christian don't vote for either one.
JOHN THE BAPTIST
leaped for joy in his mother’s womb at 6 months!
The Bible says,
“As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy!”
Luke 1:44
This means abortion is murder, and babies cry in agony, not joy, when they are murdered in the womb!
The Orthodox Church and God say abortion is murder!
“The LORD says, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you!”
Jeremiah 1:4-5
There are extremely rare exceptions but the most common cases occur when a girl seeks to murder her baby in her womb up to even the ninth month because her irresponsible boy friend left her after they were practicing sexual immorality outside of a responsible marriage union!
BUT CHRIST HAS CONQUERED DEATH, SIN, AND THE DEVIL!
There is mercy for the repentant sinner and no Christian can vote for a political candidate who supports this murder of babies in the womb!
But if politics isn't right.....
Ummm, vote for the 3rd candidate....
Does this make us not OF the world? I am just trying to gain understanding.
Respectively disagree with your interpretation and application of scripture in this case.
I see it like, Stalin killed 35 million people and Khrushchev killed 5 million even though they were both murderers the Christian thing to do if the Russian people had a choice was to vote Khrushchev, that would have saved 30 million lives.
We will see what happens.
God is sovereign, to Him be all glory!
Spiral of Silence.....
the bible you are using is corrupted , the king james bible is the most accurate, Jeremy ah 29 ,7 , "And seek the PEACE of the city whither I have caused you to be carried away captives and pray unto the LORD for it :for in the PEACE thereof shall ye have PEACE ." !
+Spiderman NESBIT Thanks for your comment. Here's an about the KJV. Take a look and let us know what you think. bible.org/article/why-i-do-not-think-king-james-bible-best-translation-available-today
SPEAK UP PEOPLE
be neutral
1:30 and the farthest reach in real truth real quick history was made.
In Daniel 4:17 The Bible teaches that God raises up the BASEST of men. Is that who you vote for, if not why not?
You have the right to not vote at all because God is not a Democrat nor Republican. The good news is not Gospel + political affiliation. We are ambassadors for Christ. Politics is tied only to earthly kingdoms. We must remember FIRST that our kingdom and citizenship are in heaven. However, as a Christian you can vote Democrat with a clear conscience. Democrats are pro-choice (and not pro-abortion) just like God because God does not force morality on people but instead honors people's choices (independent of whether the choices are right or wrong). On the other hand, many can't see how Christians can be Republicans who support a convicted sexual predator and pathological liar who is totally opposite of Christ whom they profess to serve. Some say that God can use an evil leader but the Old Testament shows that after God uses the evil leader he punishes and even destroys the evil leader and followers.
The bible does say who you should vote for. You should vote for someone who will give you a "tranquil and quiet life full of godliness and dignity". (1Tim 2:1-2) Who can that be? It is someone who is the most Christ-like. Not one that is the least evil. Why? Because integrity and character matters (by their fruits you shall know them) and policies don't matter as much because most candidates once elected don't follow their party, platform, and promised policies.
Voting for the amount of evil that you are comfortable with? Unfortunately, people can be comfortable with something that crosses God's boundaries.
The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth (Pr 8:13). Donald Trumph embodies that which we are called to hate, even more overtly than Hillary. "Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such." Are Christians advocating for someone like this or someone contrary to what we are to hate? Paul expounded these principles in his letters, but the above are the basics condensed. These principles were given to people who were not perfect to screen people who were not perfect. Not following them is worse that doing nothing, it is anti-Christ regardless of how you feel or what you intend to happen.
Refusing to advocate the lesser of two evils is not doing nothing. Each time Christians prostitute themselves to advocate someone in opposition to what God's Word outlines, they are teaching the world to follow a lower standard than God's Word. They are teaching the world to trust in their own strength and to live by sight, not by faith in obedience to God regardless of what doom threatens to come as a result of it. Well-meaning intentions cannot justify disobedience regarding something that is wrong in and of itself. Candidates that Christians advocate for a position influencing public morality should be, um, ah, eh, - moral. Though God has even used Lucifer to fulfill His will, or can take lemons to make lemonade, Christians should not be the one offering up the lemons.
"Cannot not vote." I understand what he saying in regards to write in candidates or 3rd party. Good point. However, if your election does not allow write ins, protest the best you can against the candidates, but do not feel compelled to vote merely for voting's sake. Over 4 million U.S. citizens who have done nothing wrong will not have the option of voting: they live in U.S. territories like Puerto Rico.
You shouldn't use gender-neutral language on your video titles.
+torun Thanks for your comment, can you elaborate?
Great talk...but please stop saying "okay." Okay? =D
Seven minutes in and he ain't said sh*t yet...