Could Dyson spheres exist in our galaxy?

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  • A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical giant structure that surrounds a star and can capture its solar output. Two separate groups of astronomers have claimed that they have detected dozens of possible Dyson spheres within the Milky Way galaxy. NBC’s Gadi Schwartz speaks with Dr. Michio Kaku about what it would take to create a Dyson sphere and how advanced a civilization would need to be to make it happen.
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  • @Glorymole-pv2gt
    @Glorymole-pv2gt 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +201

    Even if we had this technology, people would complain about job losses in fossil fuel industry.

    • @blaqk_soul
      @blaqk_soul 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      America would sweep in with that sweet, good old fashioned freedom 🦅

    • @georgemaximus694
      @georgemaximus694 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      We can’t have energy for free. The government won’t allow it. There’s always going to be a fee. No incentive to build one.

    • @lightyagami3492
      @lightyagami3492 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Actually the tech already exists. It's just that the panels have to be extremely large. That is something we can't do yet.

    • @computerlearingchannel4257
      @computerlearingchannel4257 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@lightyagami3492 if humans built a dyson sphere it would give r postion off to other alien races. Which is a no

    • @jezkerjamez7110
      @jezkerjamez7110 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If we had this technology scarcity would be solved and money would become pointless.

  • @user-wv9pw9tq1g
    @user-wv9pw9tq1g 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Everyone: read between the lines. This is what disclosure looks like - slow drip of normalizing the fact we are not alone.

    • @aktchungrabanio6467
      @aktchungrabanio6467 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah yeah yeah, we heard you. Are you happy? Go back to your basement.

    • @mikeoxsbigg1
      @mikeoxsbigg1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Slower than really needed.

    • @BarryHeaven
      @BarryHeaven 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure. It’s a conspiracy just like everything else you see.

    • @AmericanVice
      @AmericanVice 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Even if we’re not alone in the universe, don’t waste your time worrying about it cause we’ll never make contact with em.

    • @mikeoxsbigg1
      @mikeoxsbigg1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @AmericanVice exactly like back when people were certain the milky way galaxy was the only one and all others were simply nebulas inside the milky way. Certainly is relative.

  • @55cook
    @55cook 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +116

    First thing we need to do is figure out how to get ourselves out of our social/political internet silos.

    • @adamhuffman3354
      @adamhuffman3354 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Yea humans are evolving. Into what is the question!

    • @gilberttorres8
      @gilberttorres8 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That’s probably impossible, it’s in our human nature to have conflict with each other. My best guess is each race having a planet each in the future however even then humans will always find ways to fight each other. The only way I see all humans coming together is fighting something stronger than any human.

    • @Factsoverfeels8
      @Factsoverfeels8 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If we communicate with these beings , it’s going to change man kind forever lol what is you on . Have that type of technology

    • @55cook
      @55cook 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gilberttorres8 How about a fake AI generated political monster that no one could possibly feel any kinship for. Something like a giant, overweight looking, diaper wearing, orange circus barker?

    • @_JackNapier
      @_JackNapier 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thus Spoke Zarathustra
      Friedrich Niche
      Man vs. Overman 🃏

  • @mikegordon8178
    @mikegordon8178 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    Even if technolgically possible, human greed would not let it happen.

    • @gary4books
      @gary4books 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not even "the invisible hand."

    • @gamers-xh3uc
      @gamers-xh3uc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It would inevitably happen, atleast not now doing a dyson sphere is as greedy as it gets actually

    • @KanoLAD
      @KanoLAD 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good job that the ones who’ve already built it aren’t human.

    • @jamescarter8311
      @jamescarter8311 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wonder if other species are as self loathing as we are. If an alien species is building Dyson spheres, it’s a safe bet they don’t care about other life in that solar system.

    • @a.baciste1733
      @a.baciste1733 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pretty sure collect and control energy provided to the whole planet and more would be most mega corporation dream though

  • @BTMMHACK
    @BTMMHACK 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Great, now create a way to for us all to eat and live free.

    • @DG-hw8it
      @DG-hw8it 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      It's called being a farmer. 😁🍀

    • @_JackNapier
      @_JackNapier 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'll pass the Ketchup if you light a fire with your back turned🃏🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      🥩🍖🍗💀

    • @AbortYurfetuses
      @AbortYurfetuses 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A60rt!●n express lanes and child number limits.

    • @aaronschmidt9753
      @aaronschmidt9753 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Lift a finger

    • @AbortYurfetuses
      @AbortYurfetuses 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aaronschmidt9753 Abortions

  • @Uouttooo
    @Uouttooo 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    The Prime Directive forbids any Star Trek civilizations from making themselves known to us.

    • @ninnymonger
      @ninnymonger 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Prime Directive was Federation orthodoxy. What compelled the Romulans or the Klingons or the Borg to abide by it?

    • @Ron-ni8uu
      @Ron-ni8uu 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes very true

    • @Buzz_Kill71
      @Buzz_Kill71 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The federation is a human initiated organization.

    • @phlezktravels
      @phlezktravels 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@Buzz_Kill71lol your username checks out

    • @johnfitzgerald8879
      @johnfitzgerald8879 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Prime Directive only applies to Star Fleet, not to private individuals or businesses.

  • @GraniteInTheFace
    @GraniteInTheFace 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Possibly but it's probably redundant. If a civilization can create a Dyson sphere they can probably create a way to harness energy without that much resources

    • @fearmetoo-le8dw
      @fearmetoo-le8dw 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A dyson sphere is basically a bunch of solar panels orbiting a star. We already have the technology to build a dyson sphere, just not enough resource to complete it, and our rockets are still very inefficient, making it uneconomical. To a Type II civilization, such technology would be considered primitive and there would probably be a better way of directly accessing the energy of a star.

    • @lazerdoor6880
      @lazerdoor6880 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      As a civilization advances their energy needs increase. Humans didn’t need as much energy in the 18th century as we do now. A civilization that can create something like a Dyson sphere probably has energy needs we can’t imagine, like our distant ancestors couldn’t imagine what we need today.

    • @honeybadger9425
      @honeybadger9425 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They should say Dyson Swarm really lots of little satellites 🛰️ around a star, that’s what we might find. I can’t see anyone building a huge sphere unless it’s a religious Pyramid status like thing.

  • @Sloimer
    @Sloimer 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    How are we Type 0 yet we’ve invented The Rotato electric potato peeler

    • @SpicyMang0s
      @SpicyMang0s 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We’re at least a type 0.000058524 civilization

  • @johnsegura2139
    @johnsegura2139 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Our divisiveness is what's slowing down our technological advancements.

  • @hansweichselbaum2534
    @hansweichselbaum2534 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    Couldn't you find anybody else presenting these news. Feels like he's talking to kindergarten kids.

    • @hippyhay1659
      @hippyhay1659 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      My thought exactly.

    • @jonnie2bad
      @jonnie2bad 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      thats basically the intellectual level of people that actually watch network broadcasting

    • @aaronschmidt9753
      @aaronschmidt9753 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      They have to because attention spans are a lot shorter today.

    • @daveydudely9954
      @daveydudely9954 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      you just type DYSON SPHERE into Google news, kindergarten kids would know that

    • @swordsbros
      @swordsbros 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Idk, kinda a refreshing change haha

  • @jefferee2002
    @jefferee2002 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Always a pleasure to be talked to like we're three.

  • @AndrewTran-bleh
    @AndrewTran-bleh 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thought that's a new line of vacuum cleaner for a sec 😅

  • @oskarngo9138
    @oskarngo9138 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So where would you get all that material to enclose the sun?
    and how are you going to maintain repairs for such a large object?

  • @Factsoverfeels8
    @Factsoverfeels8 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Them talking about thinking theirs advanced alien civilizations is wild. We almost close to the truth

    • @_JackNapier
      @_JackNapier 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We been eating Alien babies for Millennia 🐙🦑🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🃏

    • @AbortYurfetuses
      @AbortYurfetuses 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Trying to read your comment gave me close to a stroke.

    • @xaviperez26
      @xaviperez26 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which truth?

    • @Tyrian_
      @Tyrian_ 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very close to the truth. I truly believe there is real aliens:extraterrestrials whatever you want to call them. It makes no sense for them to not exist in our so called galaxy the Milky Way or a neighboring galaxy like the Andromeda. In our solar system Saturn’s moon Titan will soon be explored by “DRAGONFLY” in the 2030s and I find that will be more interesting than Jupiter’s moon Europa. There’s also Saturn’s moon Enceladus but we probably won’t hear news about that mission till like the 2040s+…🤷🏽. The 2030s will definitely be new news with space exploration.

  • @peradolia
    @peradolia 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Michio i hope you live long enough to see the results of your research this will be a crazy age for science

    • @Itsme-ik1fs
      @Itsme-ik1fs 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Too often major discoveries scientists make are ahead of their time and they don't get the recognition they deserve.

    • @greedowins2917
      @greedowins2917 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He just moves on to new subjects when he is wrong. Guy was basically the spokesperson for string theory, and now it's quantum computing (not related fields), and has been exaggerating the impacts of theoretical sciences for 25 years now. How any reputable institution associates with him after so many years getting it wrong is beyond me.

    • @adub103
      @adub103 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This isn’t his research and it’s nothing new

  • @thesoundsmith
    @thesoundsmith 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dyson Spheres? not likely. Dyson Mesh? Quite possible. The lead picture shows a mesh.

  • @jonjon7147
    @jonjon7147 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Where would we get all that material from? It would take multiple planets to build around the sun.

    • @honeybadger9425
      @honeybadger9425 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would likely be lots of little satellites 🛰️ or small structures wouldn’t it

    • @GregorBarclay
      @GregorBarclay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup. Even a Dyson swarm would require us demolishing at least a few substantial moons if not one of the rocky planets.

  • @danielw5204
    @danielw5204 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Please note that Arxiv is an open-sourced preprint platform, which means the paper is not peer-reviewed by other scientists of the respective field yet. As exciting the finding might sound, I would take this with a grain of salt.

  • @andyonions7864
    @andyonions7864 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Going from L1 to L2 may only take a millennium or less. Not millions of years. I'm on record as predicting we become L1 in the next 50 years.

  • @nex-ex5100
    @nex-ex5100 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He got his Star Treks messed up. They were a type 3 civilization.

  • @nealdaniel8800
    @nealdaniel8800 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I never understood why a Dyson sphere would be necessary when panels in space can collect more than enough energy for our needs (think ISS). Shouldn't we be looking for unusually dim planets instead?

  • @vegagunator
    @vegagunator 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    If the aliens had advanced tech they could create all the power they need from a single one inch chip .

    • @andrewli1519
      @andrewli1519 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Energy can neither be created or destroyed, so all that energy has to come from somewhere...

    • @FreedaPeeple-in2mn
      @FreedaPeeple-in2mn 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Gibberish

    • @capybaraponque611
      @capybaraponque611 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      how stupid are you?

    • @APAstronaut333
      @APAstronaut333 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I got your one inch chip right here

    • @PlanetJimmer
      @PlanetJimmer 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@andrewli1519but there is something known as Dark Matter, whatever that is. An advanced civilization that knows what that is could very well use it to generate all the energy they need. This Dyson Sphere is nothing more than a twentieth century human guess - there is probably a better source for energy once we understand more about physics.

  • @HonyMan-bs1vv
    @HonyMan-bs1vv 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blind, blushing, and compassionate.. the presenter of the program, Azza.. is trying to show the crazy genius of Micho Czco

  • @ronaldpickett5133
    @ronaldpickett5133 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When a civilization has advanced enough to produce technology to enable the ability to encapsulate a star they by that time would surely have aquired the knowledge to produce simpler and more cost effective forms of energy production. This makes Dyson spheres a moot thought.

  • @cyberpunk808
    @cyberpunk808 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dyson was actually embarrassed when people found out about his idea!

  • @Shadowx011
    @Shadowx011 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These channels bring me back to those days when I was in Kindergarten discussing space fabric and quantum physics. 🙂

  • @danielweston9188
    @danielweston9188 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    A dyson spear with a thickness of only 100cm at the distance of Neptune (at it farest point in the orbit) would require 18.7 times the matter contained in the solar system.

    • @gary4books
      @gary4books 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "Ring World" Niven

    • @Ludba-ex9pi
      @Ludba-ex9pi 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well why on earth would it be all the way out to a distance of Neptune. Could be way closer without being destroyed by the sun

    • @prophetofthesingularity
      @prophetofthesingularity 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes we do not have the material to do that and most likely there are not a lot of solar systems that would.
      What is a lot more possible though and something we should have the ball rolling already is to put lots of solar collectors in space. Right now we could not get the energy back to earth efficiently enough but we could start setting up energy stations in space for drones,probes,etc. to refuel. The way that autonomous vehicles have progressed along with AI means that in the very near future we could make some machines that could by themselves go to places in the solar system and set up networks of energy.
      In space you get solar energy 24/7 and it is also unfiltered from Earths atmosphere.

    • @gary4books
      @gary4books 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ludba-ex9pi I expect the point I would want is where the gravity of the sun is close to 1G and that (if my memory is correct) is inside Earth's orbit. And even a full sphere is not required. A mesh surface might also work, given the right technology.

    • @gamers-xh3uc
      @gamers-xh3uc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why at that distance why not at the distance of halfway from mercury to the sun

  • @isheanesumanonge8893
    @isheanesumanonge8893 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Artificial intelligence will be key in getting to the type 1 and subsequently 2 . We are starting to scratch the surface.

  • @Jasonronsteinberger
    @Jasonronsteinberger 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i built one but nobody cared, now i can't remember where I left it.

  • @dmo848
    @dmo848 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Didnt we just find a planet with 1

  • @racookster
    @racookster 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even in Star Trek (since Michio invoked it), the Vulcans were aware of our existence but didn't consider us worth contacting until we broke the speed-of-light barrier. In that fictional universe, we did it by developing warp drive, but if it really is possible, we'll probably do it with communication signals first and SETI won't hear anything until we do.

  • @dredrotten
    @dredrotten 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where would they get enough Iron and other metals plus the knowledge to create a Dyson Sphere?

  • @aaronkuntze7494
    @aaronkuntze7494 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's a stupid question?
    Yes!
    Schrodinger's equation proved that anything is possible all the time.
    We call it a fundamental law for a reason.

  • @kennymiles1481
    @kennymiles1481 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even if an alien had the capability to build this technology, they might choose not too. I just have a feeling there would be a lot of unexpected consequences from doing this.

  • @40spray
    @40spray 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They make an awesome Vacuum, why not

  • @trumanshow162
    @trumanshow162 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Agriculture (with external matter) enabled civilization. Industrialization (with external energy) expanded
    it worldwide. Computerization (with external information devices) buffered the shock of crashing the
    planetary limits. AI-nization (with the software to find & utilize causality) will promise sustainable
    development. However, energy consumption will be the most detectable indicator from a vast distance.

    • @gary4books
      @gary4books 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We need a bunch of computer models to show what sorts of items around a star can alter the light leaving it. Dyson spheres may be one possibility, but not so likely. How about a gazillion satellites? Or a web of orbiting planetoids. What ever we can imagine in orbit and see if it will leaive a "signature" in the light from that star. Then round up the usual suspects.

  • @ddlang2514
    @ddlang2514 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “We’re type 0” . That’s obvious!

  • @analien5251
    @analien5251 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    just steal it from the aliens

  • @sedawk
    @sedawk 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    What ever happened to Journalism? Dyson got the idea from a science fiction story called Star Maker written in 1937. The writer of this story couldn’t spend 30 seconds reading Wikipedia? Sheesh.

    • @lucidu4euh
      @lucidu4euh 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      yes, by Olaf Stapledon. Freeman Dyson would sometimes try to correct this in interviews, but the name just kinda stuck. It's also worth noting that both Stapledon and Dyson envisioned what is now commonly referred to as a dyson swarm when describing the sphere, rather than the solid shell model that we sometimes see today.

    • @enadegheeghaghe6369
      @enadegheeghaghe6369 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hahahaha, you think Wikipedia is an accurate source of information? Sheeesh

    • @sedawk
      @sedawk 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@enadegheeghaghe6369 Probably the most accurate place for information on the internet. It's been tested again and again against major encyclopedias and Wikipedia has always been judged the most accurate. If you want you can check all the references for every article where facts are referenced. Do you believe that Dyson created the concept of Dyson Spheres as told by this NBC dribble? He got the idea from the novel "Star Maker" and decided to think about it more scientifically. If you are getting your facts from "NBC News" then I feel sorry for you.

    • @sedawk
      @sedawk 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@enadegheeghaghe6369 Some important reading for you: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/EPIC_Oxford_report.pdf

    • @iiskyvlogs
      @iiskyvlogs 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Profit driven. Sad

  • @malavoy1
    @malavoy1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Actually, he just developed an idea that appeared in a science fiction novel called 'Star Maker' in 1937 by author Olaf Stapledon.

  • @luckymapache
    @luckymapache 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When humankind has the technology to build a Dyson Sphere, it would already be obsolete for generating energy.

  • @TruthSpeaks270
    @TruthSpeaks270 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Terrence Howard will set us all free 🙌

  • @BlackyBrownDestruction9337
    @BlackyBrownDestruction9337 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They can just make a portable sun, they don't need a Dyson Sphere

    • @Fatbaddie24
      @Fatbaddie24 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly, the Dyson sphere is just a primitive human concept that not many people realize is not feasible and makes no sense.

  • @Stefon304
    @Stefon304 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is really exciting news!

    • @xaviperez26
      @xaviperez26 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Based on nothing.

    • @GregorBarclay
      @GregorBarclay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s not that exciting. It’s 60 candidate stars that could potentially have a Dyson swarm around them but are probably emitting unusual light signatures for much more boring, natural reasons. You have to eliminate every other possibility before assuming it’s aliens.

    • @xaviperez26
      @xaviperez26 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GregorBarclay Gold.

  • @psychicpajamas
    @psychicpajamas 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I bet they don't treat each other as we do.

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nope. Theyve hammered down all the tall nails long ago.

    • @Fatbaddie24
      @Fatbaddie24 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They probably say the same thing about us.

    • @AdorianDelmore
      @AdorianDelmore 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the fermi paradox say that any spices can have the ability to destroy themselves.

    • @GregorBarclay
      @GregorBarclay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AdorianDelmoreis that a Dune thing?

    • @GregorBarclay
      @GregorBarclay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m sure the Dyson spheres are very pleasant.

  • @atakanmuzaffer3975
    @atakanmuzaffer3975 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    KARDASHEV SCALE:
    [The measure was proposed by Soviet astronomer Nikolai Kardashev (1932-2019) in 1964 and was named after him.]
    Type I Civilization (Planetary Civilization): This type of civilization can use and store all of the energy available on its home planet. This includes harnessing energy from the planet’s natural resources, such as solar, wind, geothermal, and other forms of renewable energy.
    Type II Civilization (Stellar Civilization): A Type II civilization can harness the total energy output of its star. This could be achieved through structures like a Dyson Sphere, a hypothetical megastructure that would encompass a star and capture a large percentage of its power output.
    Type III Civilization (Galactic Civilization): This type of civilization can control energy on the scale of its entire galaxy. It would have access to the energy produced by billions of stars across the galaxy, implying an advanced level of technological and possibly social development.
    Type IV Civilization: This civilization would be able to harness the energy of an entire universe.
    Type V Civilization: This civilization could harness the energy of multiple universes and multi-dimensions.

  • @YourJewishOverlord
    @YourJewishOverlord 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    US Government: Unlimited energy from the sun? 200% tax on energy.

  • @robwealer5416
    @robwealer5416 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's self contradictory..if you can build a structure this big, you have likely already solved energy issues and have secured a basically unlimited power supply which would make this structure unnecessary.

  • @lordreginaldfilibuster
    @lordreginaldfilibuster 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the amout of any specific material that totals millions of planets and being able to process it on such a scale that you can collect plannets and smelt them down makes me think that size being probably wouldn't need to do that. where would they store the energy, maybe it's already stored and contained in it's space.

  • @gary4books
    @gary4books 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is a sphere, not a black hole.

  • @joeypower653
    @joeypower653 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The amount of resources you would need to create such a device is insane
    There isn’t enough material on this planet let only our solar system
    But that’s what people do best strip everything they can out of something

  • @ep5952
    @ep5952 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why is there Dyson sphere videos everywhere

  • @miboxcmpinto4977
    @miboxcmpinto4977 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kaku is getting kuku.
    Where will you get all the material needed to build a Dyson Sphere ?

  • @djrmarketing598
    @djrmarketing598 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dyson's sci fi idea from the 1960's seems far fetched to me. I think the idea of passively collecting heat & solar radiation from a star from an efficiency standpoint in an advanced civilization, considering the amount of raw materials needed to build said sphere is far less efficient than actually creating our own "star reactors" using nuclear fusion and a minimal of materials to encase that reactor. In theory, if you were to take the amount of material (say a planet the size of Jupiter it's been estimated) to mine all that resources, build the sphere - would you actually have more or less energy than dedicated fusion reactors? Imagine how many fleets of THOUSANDS of starships you could build, each with their own fusion reactor, vs a single Dyson sphere or even more ridiculous - one that encases an entire Galaxy. I think a Dyson sphere might only be likely if a civilization lost it's home planet due to a catastrophic circumstance and the entire civilization lives on Space ships orbiting their sun, because realistically, without warp drive, the civilization would long be dead before reaching another habitable planet. And thus, a civilization that has a Dyson sphere/Dyson Swarm is more likely to not have a faster than light drive technology. Otherwise, it would be far more efficient to explore other star systems and find habitable planets to send a colony fleet to colonize.

  • @ThexBorg
    @ThexBorg 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The amount of physical matter to construct even a Dyson cloud is enormous.
    All the planets in our solar system would not be enough physical matter to construct it.
    It would take all the asteroids to be collected, processed and fabricated into useable matter and form.

  • @stevenboddy4232
    @stevenboddy4232 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have one in my backyard. Its a dyson sucker sphere. Sucks everything up around

  • @lubaniskie
    @lubaniskie 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The idea that the more advanced a civilisation is the more outwardly evident it must be through advanced material technological innovation seems so much of a fallacy to me. I can envision a world of truly advanced beings whom have transcended any reliance on material advancement and have instead sought to seek or have in fact uncovered a state of being that doesn't rely on excessive pursuits or gathering of conventional external energy but instead looks within the mind and self to unravel a sense of peace, pleasure and contant with existing.

    • @vernonkroark
      @vernonkroark 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      but that wouldn't be an "advanced" civilization in the terms of technological achievement. That would be a civilization that has given up hope of outliving their star.

  • @benb3316
    @benb3316 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What tripe.
    We could start building one today. Could vs the will/economy/cooperation of course.
    And the illustrations are crud. Could have done them on a 90s PC with TrueSpace.
    A real "Stapledon Swarm" vs a fictional Dyson Sphere is merely many thousands of solar collectors, power plants and even mirrors that orbit around their star, collecting light for power or beaming it elswhere for heat, illumination or to other power generators. They'd start up with a few small projects, such as to beam power to probes and far stations or power solar sails - then they'd do things like add light to their equivalent of Mars or block light from their equivalent of Venus. Eventually the star would dim a bit vs real mass and brightness to an outside observer.
    The term is from Olaf Stapledon - "Star Maker" among many other epic sci-fi works and Dyson himself was inspired and wanted to use that term. The 70s era megastructure scifi fantasies had things like Niven's Ringworld or other huge full shell Dyson Spheres. Those did require ultratech and if a high tech civilization wanted it they had tech that meant they didn't need it. For example a full ring or full shell especially would have net Zero gravitic attraction to their star and need antigravity (level 3 or level 4) tech to avoid either drifting away or a catastrophic collision.
    What likely happened is over time plenty of advanced (our level or a little above) civs had attractive worlds but too cold, too hot, too dark and so setup mirrors and stations to use their star's wasted power. Over thousands of years they indeed red shifted the star. BTW - if a civilization that builds one lives a long time when their star expands then contracts they could adjust the Stapledon shell to expand/contract with it since its not one piece but many thousands of networked islands.

  • @dannyng370
    @dannyng370 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought Dyson released new product?

  • @conr2141
    @conr2141 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Theoretically though, primitive civilisations could leapfrog thousands/millions of years of 'organic innovation' if they came in contact with a more advanced civilization and simply absorbed their knowledge.

  • @bloodlust9984
    @bloodlust9984 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What if the earth itself is a Dyson sphere

    • @GregorBarclay
      @GregorBarclay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How did this get even a solitary like?

  • @lilarrin1220
    @lilarrin1220 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    a dyson swarm is more practical and realistic since it requires far less resources than a sphere and can be completed a little bit at a time

    • @SubtleHawk
      @SubtleHawk 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These are the same thing. If you read the original 1960 paper, Dyson described the concept as a swarm of orbiting structures around the star. Dyson himself later noted that a hard shell concept was a misrepresentation of his idea.

  • @homoblogicus7899
    @homoblogicus7899 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We aren't warp capable so the Prime Directive would apply.

    • @Ron-ni8uu
      @Ron-ni8uu 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Trust me we are now

  • @remartembile
    @remartembile 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If we can harvest metal in other planets or in meteorites then I think we can build that Dyson

  • @best-iq-test
    @best-iq-test 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This star has people mold on it

  • @Dave-kr9lk
    @Dave-kr9lk 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A Dyson Sphere emitting any heat I would think is a broken Dyson Sphere. Would be a waste of heat energy.

  • @dagosegovia843
    @dagosegovia843 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could they? Sure, do they? We probably wouldnt even know it.

  • @APAstronaut333
    @APAstronaut333 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What if the civilization made the Dyson sphere not heat up

  • @Easyfilm84
    @Easyfilm84 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How could you possibly harness that power though? My brain fails to understand how you go from capturing that energy, then using it on the home planet.

    • @pegatrisedmice
      @pegatrisedmice 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yeah, I can see how we could launch solar panels to orbit the sun but I'm not sure how we would do cable management

  • @questof1able
    @questof1able 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The mass of the sphere would have to be larger than the mass of the star... which would never exist

    • @GregorBarclay
      @GregorBarclay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s not how sums work.

  • @royrice8021
    @royrice8021 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There are Rubik’s Cube universes out there now, all unsolved! 👍

  • @user-jt4xx3df3l
    @user-jt4xx3df3l 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think we in order for us to reach type 1 civilization we need a genius scientist as a president

    • @TheTrueOnyxRose
      @TheTrueOnyxRose 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That person would probably crash everything else in society.

    • @gary4books
      @gary4books 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How about a nuclear engineer that only had one term?

    • @computerlearingchannel4257
      @computerlearingchannel4257 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We had one but you guys screamed racism zenophobia

    • @TheTrueOnyxRose
      @TheTrueOnyxRose 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@computerlearingchannel4257:
      Oh, you mean Trump and his MAGA-hatters. He’s no genius, let alone a scientist.

    • @computerlearingchannel4257
      @computerlearingchannel4257 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheTrueOnyxRose lower taxes. Increased the economy, bring manufacturing back to america, lowering price of good and service that the government produce and ending senseless wars. Not a good one huh. You must had ur head up ur crack for 2016 -2019

  • @Reallyidktbh
    @Reallyidktbh 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    By the time when the AGI gonna be real very soon, we will be able to become Type 1 in just 50 years.

  • @user-ne7be4dr7n
    @user-ne7be4dr7n 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But what type of star??????

  • @untouchable360x
    @untouchable360x 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No chance. The inventor would be “Boeinged” by the oil companies.

  • @Rovsau
    @Rovsau 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's a nice middle ground. Not nothing, and not everywhere.
    Seeing Dyson Spheres everywhere would be creepy.

    • @GregorBarclay
      @GregorBarclay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      60 civilisations kicking about the galaxy that are each light years more advanced than we are, that might not be great for us.

    • @Rovsau
      @Rovsau 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@GregorBarclay If one or more civilizations has multiple Dyson Spheres, then I would assume they don't need our resources. I think we would have to develop a technology which could rival their supremacy, for them to start worrying about what we might do.
      As to whether they are benevolent or malevolent, I tend to look at the potential for either inclination to cooperate successfully or not. Last time I looked into it, the most recent studies at least suggested that "Survival of the Fittest" is no longer the strongest factor in natural selection among humans; it leans more towards people who are agreeable enough to cooperate with others.

  • @dom85esc1
    @dom85esc1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If we even had the technology to pull this off, wouldn't it take several thousand years to build? Would we even have enough resources on just the planet earth or would we have to harvest other planets for the resources? Let alone where the heck would you find all the manpower for such an inconceivably large and complex project? Millions of years more advanced, yeah I'd agree with that sentiment.

  • @EstradaRamon
    @EstradaRamon 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wouldnt it melt the sphere over time

  • @charmedlilsis1
    @charmedlilsis1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These ppl have said everything except for the words "Yes, we know definitively that other intelligent life exists in the universe." They told us they think Oumouamoua was a probe. They told us that a mothership could be lurking somewhere in the solar system. And now theyre saying they could or may have detected dyson spheres. Even if theyre saying they could detect them and havent, why are you looking for this type of technology from such an advanced civilization when, as far as theyve told the public, we havent found even primitive life in the universe?

    • @vernonkroark
      @vernonkroark 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They?
      One disgraced scientist thinks Oumuamua was an alien probe.
      No scientist that I know of has claimed a "mothership could be lurking in the solar system." I don't know where you got that, but as an astrophysicist, I can tell you that isn't legitimate science.
      And yes, maybe some astronomers found Dyson Spheres. MAYBE. That's how science works. If we find something weird, we speculate on what it could be and then someone else checks our work. It may be that these astronomers are mistaken.
      Now, why are we looking for advanced civilizations? Because they are easier to detect. We know for a fact that there are no advanced civilizations in our solar system, because they would be super easy to detect. If there were cities on Mars, we would have known it 50 years ago, but there still may be bacteria there because it is much harder to detect. Also, intelligent civilizations are much more exciting than microbes, or fish.
      And yes, THEY would tell us immediately if astronomers discover conclusive proof of life elsewhere. They MAYBE found Dyson Spheres and we already know about it. No one tried to cover it up. It's public knowledge. And no, astronomers won't try to hide their findings, they want to publish that paper. They want that Nobel Prize. They want to be famous. And this is a great example. The phosphine they found in the atmosphere of Venus is another example. No one tried to hide that. In fact, the media ran with it like crazy. THEY (whoever that is) won't be able to keep it a secret if we find extraterrestrial life.

    • @GregorBarclay
      @GregorBarclay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Primitive life is much more difficult to detect than sophisticated life. There’s currently no way to detect cavemen on a distant planet.

  • @Kmar701
    @Kmar701 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We’re type zero where we play with ourselves

  • @FoOtFoOt542
    @FoOtFoOt542 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where would the tremendous amount of mass needed come from?

    • @ghislainpitre6597
      @ghislainpitre6597 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      asreroids?

    • @gamers-xh3uc
      @gamers-xh3uc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mercury

    • @xaviperez26
      @xaviperez26 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ghislainpitre6597 Yes, you can easly go to a belt of asteroids, pick some of them, go back to your planet and start to build a giant Lego Dyson Sphere, send 100,000,000 spacecrafts driven by robots shaped as a vacuum cleaner (that's why the Sphere is called Dyson), wait a couple of years to be finished and the mankind could yell all togeher...
      "The power of the Sun in the palm of my hands!!!"

  • @Ric_1985
    @Ric_1985 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Highly advance civilizations laughing saying l: yeah milking a star, why not steam engines 😂

  • @straighttoyou
    @straighttoyou 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Some say Dyson rings, but it would be plates. I would take longer than the stars life to cover it like that unless you could inject particles into it and keep fusion going. In that case the star would be covered and you wouldn't see it, not even the heat of said star. Because that would be energy that would be used as well. 2+2=4

    • @caseymoore4759
      @caseymoore4759 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would most likely be a Dyson swarm which doesn’t require injecting the sun with anything 😂 we are creating swarms around our planet now…….. starlink for example

  • @TheRhuen
    @TheRhuen 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To gather the materials, the energy efficiency, construction requirements, gravity control for movement and structure stability. We are looking at civilizations that would have to develop a plethora of incredible technology long before even conceiving of building such a thing. A world ship in a stable orbit housing trillions could be hard for our satellites to detect yet alone would be hundreds of thousands if not more so years more advanced than Earth is. Honestly I feel we keep looking for these things because such massive things are all we'd be able to see. Like shining a flash light into a dark ware house, we can see the chairs just fine but a bug crawling on a far wall we can't make out. There could be trillions of system wide civilizations, continent sized colony ships, and more out there and we simply can't see them because they are too small to make out from so far away. That said I want to hear how far away these are because if a Dyson sphere is found and it's 10000 light years away that would mean something out there built something that insane when humans were just figuring out grain and domesticated goats. If they are still out there they are ten thousand years past when they built it now.

  • @timothylopez8572
    @timothylopez8572 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Star Killer Base" seems like such a waste of resources. Why harvest the star, then fire the energy at the planets surrounding it? The planets would spin off or whatever. Still destroying the solar system.

  • @matthewfreeman33
    @matthewfreeman33 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What would this be made of that when that close to the sun wouldn't melt or be destroyed?

    • @GregorBarclay
      @GregorBarclay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Doesn’t have to be that close.

  • @lyraserpentine894
    @lyraserpentine894 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We will never be a Type I Civ. For every 1 step we take forward, we take 3 back. 182/194 countries on Earth are currently involved in conflict, climate change is worsening, and we're doing nothing to stop the 6th mass extinction. I would love to be a Type I, but it's just not in the cards for us. Not at this time.

  • @cheryldebejare3570
    @cheryldebejare3570 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    We are pretty much in the last extinction due to trashing our planet.

    • @_JackNapier
      @_JackNapier 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ney Skillet. . .not the last but perhaps the latest first of the last🃏🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @justinh2832
      @justinh2832 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This planet is healthy and fine and will be for a very very very long time this planets flourishing with life although they say we are in the 6th mass extinction it's really just the natural process of the planet have we helped speed up that process sure but we aren't killing this planet it's fine

    • @amelliamendel2227
      @amelliamendel2227 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah, stable suns are too difficult to come by humans are the first, at least in our galaxy, But the unfortunate part is it took around 5 billion years to get us a semi spacefaring species The sun only has 5 billion years left so If humanity fails there simply won't be enough time for Earth to evolve another spacefairing civilization. Humans will never get out of the solar system if they don't engineer themselves to be parthenogenic as long as 50% of the human mind is concerned with mate selection you're not getting off the planet permanently

    • @gamers-xh3uc
      @gamers-xh3uc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No animals are getting extinct humans are doing just fine a mass extinction is when 70% of all species die that doesnt mean it will affect us at all tho

  • @reyes4103
    @reyes4103 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think there’s too many available planets to thrive on to have to build something like this. So no

  • @user-kl2dp6gr6k
    @user-kl2dp6gr6k 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That is scary....

  • @AlbertMark-nb9zo
    @AlbertMark-nb9zo 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    basically on the Kardashev scale, it would be a class 2 civilization.

  • @Fatbaddie24
    @Fatbaddie24 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A Dyson sphere is actually really inefficient. An advancing civilization will always try to minimize not maximize their technology. You want have more power but have it smaller than make it a lot bigger.

    • @gary4books
      @gary4books 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The sphere is for living space, energy is just one of the inputs for a living space.

  • @H.F.Prince
    @H.F.Prince 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine the looks of alien face when we become interstellar,,, lol it’s a party now

  • @user-px4td5qe7j
    @user-px4td5qe7j 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ya right

  • @kempokiin6280
    @kempokiin6280 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We, on Earth, are like a ship in the night. A Dyson Sphere/Swarm would be akin to a lighthouse, no? (lose, methaphorical symbolism y'all)

  • @DoctorFixMaster
    @DoctorFixMaster 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only if he stops making vacuum cleaners.

  • @ToxicGamer86454
    @ToxicGamer86454 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:13 Nah, that isn't what he said. He was thinking that maybe it can be a way to search for advanced life. Meaning, maybe we can spot a star with something like that around its star. Something that might be easy to detect. He wasn't even taking it very serious. More 'Smart man talks' then 'Dumb people totally miss the point/intent'. I don't even think it was his idea. I think it was something from a sci-fi book.
    And the nodes in your sphere are bigger than the Earth lol Where are you getting the recourses. We couldn't even build one of the nodes.

  • @djdedan
    @djdedan 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are some of us who want to progress and there are some who want to stagnate, conserve the past... when has stagnation ever worked for a person? a business? a country? a civilization? Forward or backward, the choice our species faces.

  • @elck3
    @elck3 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Um is this real??? They talk so calmly as if it’s just another day - if we found aliens, that’s world changing.

    • @GregorBarclay
      @GregorBarclay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It‘s likely to be a thousand other naturally occurring things before it’s aliens. Even if it were aliens, it’s impossible with current technology to say for sure because we can’t directly image a Dyson sphere/swarm.

  • @Kidsollekz
    @Kidsollekz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ha you fools told me not to invest in their vacuums 😂😂😂😂