Rethinking the mystery of gravity

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  • What would you think if someone said gravity might not exist as a fundamental force? Prof. Janna Levin explored that mind-bending topic on a recent podcast and breaks down what that means to NBC's Gadi Schwartz.
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  • @td3521
    @td3521 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +136

    Right after the Terrence Howard interview on JRE 😂😂😂😂

    • @TheWaveFactor
      @TheWaveFactor 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Exactly!

    • @DanLyndon
      @DanLyndon 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Terrence Howard can't even use the word gravity in a sentence coherently. This is a different thing.

    • @LOAMMX
      @LOAMMX 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      came here to say this same thing

    • @corysgood881
      @corysgood881 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@DanLyndon Actually this is exactly what Terrence Howard said...

    • @HMNBLDGLABZ
      @HMNBLDGLABZ 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Bro that’s what I’m saying !!!

  • @Vv20vV
    @Vv20vV 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    Terrence Howard: “I’ve been trying to tell y’all mayne”!

    • @DanLyndon
      @DanLyndon 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No he hasn't. His ideas are completely unrelated to any actual science. This may sound vaguely similar to something he said, but it's not at all the same when it comes to the details. It also isn't a new idea, it's been a feature of different areas of theoretical physics for decades to consider gravity to be emergent. Terrence Howard, on the other hand, is part of the electric universe cult, which is just the most incoherently stupid bunch of nonsense ever.

    • @rashadd2615
      @rashadd2615 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s a reason they have actual scientist on the show and not Mr Howard

    • @lorenwest6305
      @lorenwest6305 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Trailerwalker
      @Trailerwalker 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Gravity clearly exists. Go jump off a cliff and tell us what you feel

    • @thegentlelivingchannel
      @thegentlelivingchannel 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@rashadd2615because you have to be white and have initials after your name to say the same thing and be respected for it? Is that the distinction here??

  • @HakunaMatata-os1og
    @HakunaMatata-os1og 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +103

    It makes perfect sense; just folks get confused on the meaning of "fundamental" within this context. "Not fundamental" doesn't mean "not real", it means "emergently real". In the same way as a bird isn't a flock of birds, and a cell isn't a human; but if you put enough of them together in the right way, you get this new thing which while not fundamental to its individual parts, is emergently real to its collective parts.

    • @robertdeland3390
      @robertdeland3390 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Perfect explanation.

    • @donaldcarpenter5328
      @donaldcarpenter5328 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      She SAID gravity is NOT "REAL", quit LYING for her!

    • @donaldpump8882
      @donaldpump8882 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is a Holistic Interpretation, meaning it isn't OBJECTIVELY REAL. like a human isn't objectively real, but rather a human is ab massive collection of electrons swirling around quarks, which are the objectively real particles

    • @mad-meh2719
      @mad-meh2719 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes but the concept of the flock is not real. It's an abstract idea to label and identify.

    • @wesley6442
      @wesley6442 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You're exactly right brother, you need a large mass to bend and warp the spacetime manifold to create this pit or well of attraction for objects to fall into, which is what we call gravity.. it is "emergent" as you say, without significant mass you don't have much gravitational force, it's so weak because it requires so much mass to really have any effect compared to the other forces.. it's kind of a pseudo force, just a result of the warping of spacetime

  • @MGeezydaWarrior
    @MGeezydaWarrior 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +190

    Ever since Terrance Howard went on Joe Rogan

    • @sireel
      @sireel 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      He was quoting Walter Russel a lot from Secret of Light, but some of what TH says is incorrect.

    • @MiguellolTV
      @MiguellolTV 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@sireel i think time will tell. you cannot discredit his patent and use of his own discovery as a foundation for his works. he is actually one of the few in a while to actually apply what he is talking about to the real world, like tesla, davinci, and other science thinkers. while the rest of the science world people, just theorizes and is afraid to step away from the norm. i would say in a world where no one knew nothing and you had to choose between the sciences, terrences makes more sense, when applied to the natural world

    • @sireel
      @sireel 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MiguellolTV I agree with the Walter Russell stuff, Tesla thought he was right, too. By "kook" I meant all the restraining orders and claims of having degrees from schools TH didn't go to, etc., - On Wikipedia.

    • @juzoli
      @juzoli 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Being on Joe Rogan is an immediate red flag…
      Like Michio Kaku went there exactly when people really started to question if he speaks really science, or just BS clickbait to propagate his own fame.

    • @gargoyle2585
      @gargoyle2585 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MiguellolTV Time?? The time is up.... i guess it must just be new to you.
      th-cam.com/video/YeAQw9YJGtM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-S67EnxoQ0rvdJ9x

  • @Hesthegreatest1
    @Hesthegreatest1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

    Ive learned the only thing Neil Degrass Tyson is an expert in is : interrupting people while they talk.

    • @joehiatt1992
      @joehiatt1992 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That guy just likes to hear himself talk

    • @michaelpoison6732
      @michaelpoison6732 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes

    • @lorenwest6305
      @lorenwest6305 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I been saying this for years😂

    • @sinnermeister
      @sinnermeister 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ADHD bruv

    • @mour1s91
      @mour1s91 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You just couldn’t find any other reason to hate on him huh😂

  • @FlatThumb
    @FlatThumb 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +120

    debating gravity always has its ups and downs

    • @livethemoment5148
      @livethemoment5148 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Are you saying its a very heavy topic with lots of gravitas?

    • @sergiodidthis
      @sergiodidthis 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I’m sorry. This falls short.

    • @JustinatorxX
      @JustinatorxX 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It definitely is a weighty topic that keeps pulling us back into the conversation

    • @iamhawkeye3162
      @iamhawkeye3162 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It’s kept me at rock bottom lately

    • @orlandoarellano7390
      @orlandoarellano7390 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its a heavy topic innit ?

  • @eyeofsaurona2345
    @eyeofsaurona2345 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Terrance Howard - there is no such thing as gravity, its just electricity and magnetism. We literally are on an enormous magnet with a huge magnetic field

    • @DANGJOS
      @DANGJOS 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That is completely different from what she's saying. Magnetism doesn't explain gravity.

    • @ianlassitter2397
      @ianlassitter2397 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      And T.H. Is utterly wrong but nice try trying to glue two totally different theories together and tie him to an actual scientist.

    • @iFREDDYx22
      @iFREDDYx22 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ⁠​⁠@@ianlassitter2397Your opinion on TH doesn’t matter since you have no credibility to gauge if he is right or wrong Ian.

    • @ChiquitaSpeaks
      @ChiquitaSpeaks 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DANGJOS yes I don’t remember everything exactly but it’s more so him talking about the phenomena similar to that of pressure conditions within a limited space with two forces fighting against each other (magnetism and electricity) making it act as gravity and the shapes within that struggle of the space are inherent to the structure of what has been referred to as the flower of life. That structure only exist when relating to certain levels of matter hence why a large earth generates more of it

    • @DANGJOS
      @DANGJOS 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ChiquitaSpeaks But that doesn't really make much sense. Electricity and magnetism don't really fight each other, and that explanation seems vague. Putting words together can sound cool, but where are his equations? Where is the logical flow that leads us to believe that what he's saying should even apply to gravity. It's nowhere near enough.

  • @8ightfaces
    @8ightfaces 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    Terrence Howard got the masses talking.😂

    • @250hero
      @250hero 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is different. It is that one particle or one molecule by itself is not recognizable as a lake or a ocean. But when you take vastly more molecules it is water. She is saying gravity works for macro but breaks down as we dont have a generally accepted idea for individual particles. Let alone sub atomic particles.

    • @250hero
      @250hero 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A general idea of quantum gravity.

    • @daverumpel
      @daverumpel 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Terrence Howard is a delusional narcissist. He spews BS from head to toe

    • @rashadd2615
      @rashadd2615 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Startalk is a show that has been going on since 2015, these guys don’t care what Howard is thinking. Lol

    • @kotonizna
      @kotonizna 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      oh please

  • @kevcurry
    @kevcurry 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    sounds like Terrance Howard called it. Interesting timing of this interview

    • @joehiatt1992
      @joehiatt1992 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Billy Carson is another pioneer thatll hopefully rewrite current fake history & beliefs

    • @rashadd2615
      @rashadd2615 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Explain further how this idea connects with anything Howard said.

    • @greyfenix7123
      @greyfenix7123 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@rashadd2615he tried to explain that gravity isn't a cause it's an effect. Much like they just explained here.

    • @rashadd2615
      @rashadd2615 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@greyfenix7123 He made a similar claim but don’t think their 2 explanations were anywhere close to one another

    • @jamespatterson6972
      @jamespatterson6972 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      _Howard is a plagiarist._ *He mimic's what he hears on the internet & tries to integrate it with his nonsensical false narrative.*

  • @nickc9070
    @nickc9070 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Glad to see science being shared on MSNBC 👍

    • @richardleirer
      @richardleirer 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If only they would do the same with the clot shot.

    • @Am-ih5nf
      @Am-ih5nf 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Except they keep using the term “black hole” which is racist

    • @anthonygordon9483
      @anthonygordon9483 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is just Neil Degrasse doing his magic. Neil is a star, now he is putting his fellow physicist in the light. We like Neil but we know if Neils mind is blown that means something. I watch star talk all the time, this interview was probably one of the first in a long time where Neil's mind was blown and couldnt even explain it.

    • @jnah8733
      @jnah8733 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is because you will not catch my Dad watching JRE. But he will be on the news channel. What a shame!

  • @guguineo
    @guguineo 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    Terrence Howard just said that. . .

    • @skippayless4357
      @skippayless4357 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Exactly, he said gravity isn’t a force or a cause, it’s an effect.. Now Neil degrasse and his colleagues immediately start saying “Oh by the way, gravity isn’t a force”

    • @DANGJOS
      @DANGJOS 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      What do you mean now? Do you think they just thought of this recently?

    • @BenDover-vp9ik
      @BenDover-vp9ik 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      they're about to admit the world is flat lol

    • @ronthorn3
      @ronthorn3 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Stop that dude is a hack.

    • @daverumpel
      @daverumpel 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Do you really think Terrence Howard originated this idea? Jeez

  • @1TakoyakiStore
    @1TakoyakiStore 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    My favorite idea about gravity is that it's an effect of entropy. PBS Spacetime did a great video about it.

    • @360.Tapestry
      @360.Tapestry 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      i still find that channel way too technical

    • @randyt700
      @randyt700 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You wouldn't happen to have a link to that video would you?

    • @1TakoyakiStore
      @1TakoyakiStore 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@randyt700 th-cam.com/video/qYSKEbd956M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ciphU8guzXO33H6S

  • @romeblue6198
    @romeblue6198 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Terrence Howard just said this…. 😑

    • @nestorpylos84
      @nestorpylos84 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Don’t let people gaslight you into saying he wasn’t saying this because I see some comments saying he’s still wrong

    • @thegentlelivingchannel
      @thegentlelivingchannel 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Seriously. Is it because he's not white or doesn't have the useless initials after his name that the same theories are treated with completely different reactions?

  • @OracleTreehouse
    @OracleTreehouse 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Terrence Howard was speaking about this on Joe Rogan’s podcast. Terrence Howard said gravity is a byproduct. Yall should watch the podcast. For some again.

    • @WillisAmak
      @WillisAmak 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i had to get back to th periodic table to fully understand his take on some things and he is very intelligent

  • @ianlassitter2397
    @ianlassitter2397 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Conversations about gravity always pull me in.

    • @moe47988
      @moe47988 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      it’s a heavy topic

    • @theDarkMatterMyth
      @theDarkMatterMyth 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ChrisinOSMS
    @ChrisinOSMS 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    This isn’t a new idea, I was taught that the laws of gravity break down at the quantum-level while taking physics in college back in the 90’s. This physicist just explains it in a slightly less broad of a term.

    • @ScentlessSun
      @ScentlessSun 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Saying the laws break down is the same thing as saying that the equations of General Relativity spit out zero as an answer, which is nonsense. She’s essentially saying the math was never intended to be taken so far in the first place. The problem is we still don’t have any mathematical insights into the inner-workings of a black hole without a theory of quantum gravity.

    • @cletusjones9411
      @cletusjones9411 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yeah, I’m confused on why this is presented as some radical new idea.

    • @DagNeb_It
      @DagNeb_It 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I been making this argument for years! The validation that I might not be crazy.

    • @Unknowngfyjoh
      @Unknowngfyjoh 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Unless I missed something... did she ever attempt to explain how it grew from the collection of the small interactions?

    • @babybirdhome
      @babybirdhome 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ⁠@@UnknowngfyjohThey kind of did with the water analogy - a single atom of water doesn’t behave like “water” as we know it - as a fluid that flows or has surface tension, etc. Water molecules don’t become “water” until there’s lots of them together. Only then do they become what we know as water and start to behave as we know water to behave.
      Another way to think of it is something like cars are made out of metal, but metal isn’t a car. It’s not until you have the right amounts of the right kinds of metal (and plastic and rubber and glass etc.) put together in the right way that it becomes a car.
      Or if you’ve ever seen one of those videos of a murmuration of starlings - that doesn’t happen with one single starling. It only happens when you have lots of starlings flying together. Therefore, starling murmurations are not a “fundamental force” of starlings because on the smaller scale of one starling, they don’t exist and can’t exist.

  • @mogdor
    @mogdor 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    "rethinking the mystery of gravity"... shows the same illustration everyone always uses when they explain gravity lol

  • @kyledodge5513
    @kyledodge5513 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If you listen carefully, you can hear my head exploding

  • @ChristopherGruber
    @ChristopherGruber 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Why do interviewers have to act like physics is beyond human comprehension and also ask meaningful follow up questions like "Is there experimental evidence yet to support your claim or when will there be?"

    • @michaeltrower741
      @michaeltrower741 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They're clueless, and it shows.

    • @donaldcarpenter5328
      @donaldcarpenter5328 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      nope, it is all conjecture that gravity doesn't exist on a MICRO level.

    • @boobishop9739
      @boobishop9739 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Albert Einstein explained everything he said so a child could understand it. Now the scientific community talks down to average people.That's how they are able to keep their jobs

    • @NickRichards
      @NickRichards 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is a way to teach. There are many ways, and this one involves implicit praise to the viewer, that they might learn something obtuse, which is not widely known.

    • @WindingShadows
      @WindingShadows 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Gravity, specifically as described in general relativity, is a crazy easy concept to grasp if people decided to actually look into it.

  • @devildoll9929
    @devildoll9929 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    The only thing I know about gravity is that it's a real b*tch after you've had more than three margaritas.

    • @askani21
      @askani21 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Clearly alcohol is a gravitational amplifier. Lack of sleep too 😂

  • @hera7884
    @hera7884 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    The universe is so confusing

    • @nicholashylton6857
      @nicholashylton6857 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It keeps humans busy, to say the least.

    • @michaelk3550
      @michaelk3550 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I fully believe we are living in a black hole, and the Big Bang was the matter in another larger universe collapsing into our universe(black hole) where the laws of physics act differently. I also believe the same thing about the black holes in our universe contain universes of their own. Maybe matter in the bigger universe that created ours was different and protons were the size of suns.

  • @billkeisling2907
    @billkeisling2907 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    There is, however, a Santa Claus.

    • @anemonaloco
      @anemonaloco 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      nah, he quit due to the inflation and low home affordability.

    • @moonshoes11
      @moonshoes11 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jesus Claus.

    • @StuckTrippin
      @StuckTrippin 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Elves were getting expensive, so he outsourced to little asian children.

    • @MagnumCarta
      @MagnumCarta 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@moonshoes11 He enjoys children leaving out bread, fish, and a bottle of wine

  • @michaeltrower741
    @michaeltrower741 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Janna Levin is awesome. So articulate.

  • @Djentc0re
    @Djentc0re 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I had this idea more than one time, but since I'm not a physicist it was just an idea. Am I the only one? It feels hard to believe to me that this is the first time anyone else had thought of gravity as an emerging force..

    • @ruxleec
      @ruxleec 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The overall goal is to be able to explain concretely, most likely with maths

    • @The_Quaalude
      @The_Quaalude 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      No you're not the only one, just write a math proof and be famous

    • @napilopez
      @napilopez 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is a decades old idea. It's nice more people are hearing about it, but there are a bunch of videos about emergent gravity on TH-cam alone

    • @boyzaya15
      @boyzaya15 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I swear physics really is so simple without mafmatics. It would be easier to figure out without the mafmatics in my opinion. Especially considering the math we use might be wrong

  • @mixey01
    @mixey01 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    She sounds like the kind of professor who might come up with a theory of everything.
    Merging quantum physics and classical physics together
    I'm starting to wonder of all laws of nature only exist on a macroscopic scale

  • @Xonatron
    @Xonatron 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The confusion to most is the idea of emergence in the first place. Most things we experience are manifestations of many, simple things happening. Also confusion to most is the idea of process itself - related - as we once believed life was a thing not a process.

  • @michaelccopelandsr7120
    @michaelccopelandsr7120 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    🎶"We've only just begun..."🎶

  • @ScentlessSun
    @ScentlessSun 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Einstein’s equations of General Relativity spit out zero as an answer at point of a singularity inside a black hole, which is nonsense. She’s essentially saying the math was never intended to be taken so far in the first place. The problem is we still don’t have any mathematical insights into the inner-workings of a black hole without a theory of quantum gravity. I get the logic of what she is saying but we need be able to describe a singularity mathematically. The same problem exists on that end of the spectrum even if we let General Relativity off the hook.

    • @Spectre-wd9dl
      @Spectre-wd9dl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's because the entire basis of cosmology I'd off. Gravity is an effect of electricity and magnetism. No need for dark matter, energy, higgs bosons and all the other BS they come up with. There's a reason why they can't figure it out. They're wrong.

    • @Spectre-wd9dl
      @Spectre-wd9dl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A singularity doesn't exist. Infinity doesn't exist. You can keep squeezing something to basically nothing. Think about it. You can only squeeze something until you have every proton and electron so close together they can't move. Then what.

    • @DanLyndon
      @DanLyndon 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Singularities just occur when you apply the wrong type to a problem. They are a signal from reality telling you that you can't use this equation to describe this situation. You can't use fluid dynamics to describe a problem involving relativist phenomenon, such as the motions of a liquid at ultra high speed. That's what it means to say that 'the math breaks down.' The assumptions that the equations have built in no longer apply. General relativity is a great mathematical framework for a certain domain of problems, but can't be applied indiscriminately. The existence of singularities means we need a more sophisticated notion of what is going on.

  • @LukeKazmierski
    @LukeKazmierski 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can you remove an object from quantum entanglement and if so, what would happen to the object? How would it interact with everything else?

    • @starventure
      @starventure 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Are you driving towards gravity modification?

  • @solapowsj25
    @solapowsj25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My friend once said,, "I've a gut feeling that image kinetics doesn't exist. "

  • @lokipokey
    @lokipokey 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is so beautifully and understandably explained in these two clips, although mostly by analogy.
    I would love to know more about what kind of experiments or observations are behind this hypothesis. How do they know or hypothesize this?
    But I probably wouldn't understand it anyway even if they told me 😅

  • @ValidatingUsername
    @ValidatingUsername 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just a point of clarification for the record, the “planet” you see is reduced to a point like object in the math and the visualization only really allows for 2 dimensions of interpretation.

  • @eternalspacez
    @eternalspacez 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s crazy I was saying this a decade ago, thank you for greater minds trying to explain and rationalise for the masses.

  • @kevingarcia1838
    @kevingarcia1838 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What’s actually mind blowing is how… mind blowing this seems to be for the science community. Idk i kind of always assumed this was the case after learning that gravity breaks down at the quantum level. We’re a part of an ever expanding universe and new complexities are introduced at every level, right?

    • @Spectre-wd9dl
      @Spectre-wd9dl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not expanding and nothing new is introduced. They just have no clue how it works.

  • @JessyGreene
    @JessyGreene 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love Janna Levin ✨

  • @Slide61
    @Slide61 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Totally makes sense. Thank you.

  • @stewartquark1661
    @stewartquark1661 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I understand this, a basic approach to gravity, because just the other day 5 18 24 I refined my 'letter' concerning the origins of gravity

  • @bonefishboards
    @bonefishboards 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Time = Gravity = Time

    • @eyeofsaurona2345
      @eyeofsaurona2345 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Time doesn't exist - gravity = magnetism

  • @glennelliott708
    @glennelliott708 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There is definitely a gravitas to this argument

  • @jayrussell3796
    @jayrussell3796 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Gravity worked pretty well on me a few times.

    • @DC-qn4wz
      @DC-qn4wz 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All the time!

    • @keysemerson3771
      @keysemerson3771 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      She didn't say it doesn't exist. She said it is emergent as opposed to fundamental. It makes sense scientifically, in the mean time don't worry, you're not going to float away.

    • @wolf17238
      @wolf17238 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @jayrusell3796 Yeah, me too. Especially when I used to drink.

    • @DarkseedAlpha
      @DarkseedAlpha 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s because you are a macro-organism.

    • @RobertSaxy
      @RobertSaxy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@keysemerson3771I imagine that was a gravity joke not commentary on Janna’s points

  • @bugtusslealien3931
    @bugtusslealien3931 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Georges Seurat would thank you for describing what gravity means using the collective of his "dots" which shows his painting as what it is. Very eloquent way of describing a theory of gravity. 🙂

  • @BrianFedirko
    @BrianFedirko 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think gravitational waves' background energy oscillates at the quantum level. they permeate all of space at the smallest of levels/spaces/times.Gr8! Peace ☮💜Love

  • @Si-Toecutter
    @Si-Toecutter 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That's like saying the ocean is not fundamental

  • @innertubez
    @innertubez 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pretty interesting analogy. Like saying one water molecule is not “wet.” I don’t know enough to say how accurate another physicist would say the analogy is, but I can wrap my head around it. But I suspect there are equations that can describe wetness in fluid dynamics or whatever the field is called. It’s just fascinating to speculate that what we call gravity has the same relationship between describing it in the aggregate versus describing it at the tiniest possible scales.

  • @nancychace8619
    @nancychace8619 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fascinating. Just learning about emergence theory. Is this an example of it? What about unification theory? How does that tie in, or does it? Interesting stuff 🙂 Thanks for sharing.

  • @stewartquark1661
    @stewartquark1661 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The 'mystery' of gravity is something most will find difficult to believe

  • @Xerion1
    @Xerion1 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'm a biochemist. Terrance Howard wasn't saying anything that made any sense but people that don't understand the most rudimentary concepts in science think they have the wherewithal to give their 2 cents about how "brilliant" his perspective was.
    I'm going to give the science laymen a very easy example. You know your job very well, right? You understand how it functions in your field pretty well, though you may not know everything about it. Imagine a person comes in and starts talking crazy about it in ways you know are incorrect, however, because the local population doesn't understand much of anything about your job, they think this person is incredible even though you know this person is wrong about the procedures, nomenclature, functionality and explanation of your job. Now you've got to convince people that know nothing about your job that this person saying these crazy things are incorrect... 🥴

    • @SJR_Media_Group
      @SJR_Media_Group 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Spot on and explains the sad reality... most Americans are math, physics, and science illiterate...

  • @michaelpoison6732
    @michaelpoison6732 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She said this a week before Terrance said what he said. Im not saying he saw her Interview but it is weird that he was speaking on no gravity as well.

  • @healthyconscious3883
    @healthyconscious3883 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Right after the episode on jre is crazy to me lol.

  • @OnlyAFlame
    @OnlyAFlame 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    if quantum is behaving at that level, fractal reality or quarks , either or, then it would be apparent to me that the mystery still be unsolved. Rather more fundamentally I would say its not only a consequence, like water, rather a principle that gravity is still a possibility that energy can come together to create gravity as a structured energy or wave rather than gravity as a consequence of the whole of reality.
    Is it a source or a consequence? I couldnt imagine for example gravity being a particle or a wave like neutrons or quarks, however at that level I have to ask absolutely absurd questions that are which not so absurd. If I am to create certain rules.
    I have special interest in wondering if gravity is a thing, or a wave rather than a consequence.

  • @grapeape780
    @grapeape780 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the description of "matter" being "frozen" light. Light being tied to Electromagnetism might be another explanation. Chilling!!!

    • @napilopez
      @napilopez 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Light literally is electromagnetism!

  • @percys9427
    @percys9427 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Even my Dog understands Gravity
    ball goes up ball goes down

    • @keysemerson3771
      @keysemerson3771 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      She didn't say it doesn't exist. She said it is emergent as opposed to fundamental. It makes sense scientifically, in the mean time don't worry, you're not going to float away.

    • @askani21
      @askani21 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Go ask your dog to calculate the inner curvature of a black hole if he understands gravity that well 😂

    • @MagnumCarta
      @MagnumCarta 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@askani21 Dog say light is like tail and black hole is like mouth. No matter how much tail try to get away, it eventually gets eaten!

  • @therationalist234
    @therationalist234 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In short, the laws of physics change at the smallest scales. This isn't a revelation more of a potential framework for thinking

    • @Spectre-wd9dl
      @Spectre-wd9dl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They don't when you understand that the universe is electric.

  • @matdrat
    @matdrat 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The leading edge idea that blows my mind is that quantum entanglements are the threads that make up the fabric of spacetime.

  • @dee7665
    @dee7665 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Terrace Howard said it first

    • @JR-iu8yl
      @JR-iu8yl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ?

  • @mel-nm6oh
    @mel-nm6oh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Terrence Howard called it..😂 gravity might not exist as a fundamental force..😮🤯

  • @RobertSaxy
    @RobertSaxy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love seeing deep science and Jana Levin being showcased but at 3:43 why wouldn’t you show the dots

  • @eobias
    @eobias 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So all 4 fundamental forces are actually all emergent properties then?

    • @tamastarczy6262
      @tamastarczy6262 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good point. Could very well be! I applaud to the idea!

  • @jdotbeats3727
    @jdotbeats3727 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Terrance Howard has said the same.

  • @CHXFIT95
    @CHXFIT95 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just wanna copy and paste this link to this video on everything Terrance Howard is on inside the TH-cam world lol

  • @elram2649
    @elram2649 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Our limited knowledge considered; we know nothing.

    • @moonshoes11
      @moonshoes11 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We know quite a bit. You might not.

    • @Choppalini
      @Choppalini 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Where's the center of the universe? If we can find that answer then we know everything until then we know nothing at all

    • @askani21
      @askani21 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@Choppalini You'll be happy to learn we actually know that answer!!!
      The center of the observable universe is always the location of the observer! We only get to see up to 46.5 billion lightyears, because beyond that point, space is expanding faster than the speed of light. So we'll never see beyond. But an alien on the other side would see his own observable universe, a radius of 46.5 billion lightyears around him.
      But if you're looking for the actual geometrical center of the entire universe, from what we can observe it looks flat. If it's truly flat, it's infinite in all directions, therefore it has no center. But to confirm it's flat, we'd need to calculate its curvature with infinite precision, which is impossible, so maybe it's slightly curved. If it is, it might take the 4D shape of a cylinder or a donut. We could go in a straight line and get back to where we started without turning! But there would still be no center.
      I hear many people get confused about a center because of the big bang. If that's your case, just know that the big bang didn't happen from one point: it happened everywhere all at once. It's not a single point exploding, rather the distance between each particle getting bigger and bigger super fast. The big bang is the expansion of space between stuff, everywhere. So, no center.
      😊

  • @JehovahsaysNetworth
    @JehovahsaysNetworth 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My answer is gravity is magnetic polarity

  • @Lamin_G
    @Lamin_G 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    _"We _*_might no_*_ longer have something that can be described as gravity."_ How about moving away from what looks to be pure speculation? Simply because the current descriptions of "gravity" may not *do justice* to the actual phenomenon or phenomena, doesn't mean gravity cannot be a force(s).

    • @JacobBarbee-jf4fy
      @JacobBarbee-jf4fy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe like pressure? Maybe a perceived and actual mass when compressed, can be different from each other even if there is no transfer of material, like liquid vs. gas. Idk?

    • @askani21
      @askani21 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was speculated to be a force 4 centuries ago, but we still haven't found its force carrying particle, nor any evidence it is actually a force.
      We don't have any good reason to call it a force. It's just an old habit, and frankly it's calculated the same way as a force in Newtonian physics, so it's still taught like that in school.

    • @Lamin_G
      @Lamin_G 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@askani21
      The traditional view of gravity maintains that it is the outcome of the _coordinated_ actions of several elementary quantum objects; I am not sure where the idea that gravity originates from a single "elementary" object or _"force-carrying particle"_ came from. Gravity is a force if it is "energy" with an effect [in this case, described as an "attractive force"] that _compels_ or _influences_ behavior or action. Its nature as a force remains unaffected by endless debates over whether it qualifies as a "fundamental force" or not.🙂

    • @askani21
      @askani21 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Lamin_G Oh, I didn't notice a distinction between force and fundamental force. I'll check it out, thanks!

  • @JimmyTaylor108
    @JimmyTaylor108 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    not sure why his mind is blown by this information. This makes a lot of sense, especially how Dr. Levin explains it, but it's something that has been talked about for a long time.

  • @ceenote6364
    @ceenote6364 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What if they were all wrong about the gravity force? The issue of it being a weak force has always had me thinking it’s more to it. I understand the simple act of raising your hand, or jumping, or escaping the atmosphere, and leaving the planet or fairly easy actions. Making gravity a weak force at that level, but when we get to the universal level it changes in my opinion. Gravity keeps everything in place Galaxies, Blackholes, Suns,and Planets. Sometimes packing huge amounts of matter into insanely small balls of energy, and formed the universe itself. If they are wrong about what gravity is , I prey I’m around when it is figured out, and changes the world. Terrance a Howard says he has the answer. I’m here for it.

  • @JP-gw9ts
    @JP-gw9ts 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    So no gravitons?

    • @starventure
      @starventure 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Graviphons, maybe. Subtle standing wave interactions between fundamental particles that are weaklings compared to the known forces, but because it is at a vastly smaller dimensional level to the fundamental particles they are unaffected by the larger dimension forces. Gravity goes on its merry way unimpeded and while it is weak for a single particle to particle interaction, the effect of several trillion trillion particles all mingling nearby each other is going to project that tiny insignificant action into something that can be seen in our everyday dimension.

    • @Sean-Green
      @Sean-Green 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah she could've just said that lol

    • @hodicha
      @hodicha 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂

    • @zinzhao8231
      @zinzhao8231 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You’re being left behind. You need to keep up 😂

    • @avigindratt7608
      @avigindratt7608 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No I believe gravitons are predicted by the math but are unproven

  • @denooo127
    @denooo127 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Terrence Howard really about to break the internet

    • @NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot
      @NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No he not this is different from what he was saying.

    • @kitjones6896
      @kitjones6896 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      1x1 is 1 x (one number of times). If mangos cost 1 dollar each and I buy 1 what is the total?

    • @acekiller48
      @acekiller48 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@kitjones6896 Gravity

    • @sireel
      @sireel 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Besides the Walter Russell stuff he's quoting from Secret of Light, he's a kook. Look up his Wikipedia.

    • @Spectre-wd9dl
      @Spectre-wd9dl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@sireel using Wikipedia is like using CNN. Good lucking finding anything other than what you're being told.

  • @diorynovis
    @diorynovis 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You cant touch love but somehow you can feel it.

    • @jimliu2560
      @jimliu2560 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure you can….it just a few bunch of “Physical-Molecules” that the brain secretes…
      It can be chemically synthesized and touched….

    • @moonshoes11
      @moonshoes11 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Love is a chemical reaction in the brain, and it can be measured.

    • @Theanonymousbystander
      @Theanonymousbystander 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@moonshoes11 depends how you define love. The chemical reaction you're referring to I'd more appropriately label as affection.
      But I love a good smart-assy TH-cam comment and yours is great!

    • @jimliu2560
      @jimliu2560 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Theanonymousbystander
      you are using grammar as an escape…..but it’s not going to work….
      Love ( or whatever you call it) Is caused by a “physical” chemical compound…
      Ie.. without chemistry, you won’t have Any types of love…

    • @Theanonymousbystander
      @Theanonymousbystander 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jimliu2560 Do you even know what grammar is?
      I don't think I'd take any scientific credibility from someone who doesn't know the difference between grammar and vocabulary. Thanks though!

  • @OKAMIKNIGHTS
    @OKAMIKNIGHTS 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    if you want to really know more about this, you need to talk to Tai Okami , he has a full complete theory on this that is profound and world changing. What she is so eloquently explaining is only the surface level of what Tai's theory is.

  • @lorenwest6305
    @lorenwest6305 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So Terence Howard ISN’T crazy like people are trying to make him sound????

  • @Jedindy
    @Jedindy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The painting example is 💯

  • @shahbazfawbush
    @shahbazfawbush 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gravity is love, and love is gravity....

  • @AhkenAten-rh8me
    @AhkenAten-rh8me 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Electricity is more powerful than Gravity

  • @imaniwillis18
    @imaniwillis18 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hypothesized this after learning basic college chemistry. It's a wonder to me how this is even a debate anymore. You think someone would have proved it with mathematics.
    A vast accumulation of charged particles should then result in forces similar to gravity. Same way intermolecular forces work.

  • @Nuno_Alves
    @Nuno_Alves วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gravity is described as an acceleration, not a force... So how it could be fundamental?

  • @geebashiri3315
    @geebashiri3315 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why did I know this a long long time ago. I can’t be the only one.

  • @YawnGod
    @YawnGod 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you want to think about it a certain way, gravity is a collective van der Waals force, as opposed to an individual van der Waals force.
    Quanta of van der Waals forces, if you will, although renaming "gravity" to "distributed van der Waals force" isn't as etymologically satisfying.

  • @vluxmea
    @vluxmea 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Generally spealing, the 10th house follows the 9th, therefore without "structure" there will be no ways to organise materials to manifest weight.

  • @Sakamoshi
    @Sakamoshi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Terrence Howard

  • @michaelccopelandsr7120
    @michaelccopelandsr7120 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Neil and Chuck for 2024!

    • @frun
      @frun 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @Spectre-wd9dl
      @Spectre-wd9dl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shouldn't expect much more from this crowd.

  • @stewartquark1661
    @stewartquark1661 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The quantum interactions manifest in what we call gravity
    Gravity might not exist as a fundamental force

    • @starventure
      @starventure 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But are those interactions based on entanglement or wave? If it is entanglement, then what is the mechanism of interaction that causes attraction? If it is wave, what sort of wave functions are created by fundamental particle mass and how do they attract through interaction?

  • @michaelgermanovsky1793
    @michaelgermanovsky1793 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now how do you influence a proton to collude with other protons to create temperature?

  • @arshbad1
    @arshbad1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    American shows explain science like it's a reality tv

  • @motivationalpoet
    @motivationalpoet 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's the same concept Terrence Howard was explaining, yet people in the science community called him crazy.

  • @marblegarden8456
    @marblegarden8456 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The water analogy is useful, but is this really such a unique idea? I can’t pinpoint where from, but this isn’t a new idea to me.

  • @josephbenham649
    @josephbenham649 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lollll Terrance has clearly shaken up the scientific community

  • @The1JTA
    @The1JTA 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The 'rationalizations' make a lot of sense. Would this imply there is no photon "force carrier" for gravity? If so, why would gravity waves 'appear' to travel "at the speed of light"? Coincidence?

  • @AghoraNath
    @AghoraNath 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gravity doesn't exist. Ever.

  • @Paul-rs4gd
    @Paul-rs4gd 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If gravity is not a fundamental force, where does that leave inertia? Einstein theorised that gravity and acceleration are indistinguishable over a small range (I presume this means neglecting tidal effects). That requires inertia and weight to be proportional to mass. AFAIK mass IS a property of quantum objects.

  • @freddygolzofficial4129
    @freddygolzofficial4129 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is actually going to be a prevailing paradigm for the explanation of reality. The analogy she gives of a pointillism painting is exactly how the hologram of our 3D reality works. At a micro level, nothing actually exists and there is no meaning. But at a macro level, it’s all there to make meaning from in our consciousness.

  • @moonshoes11
    @moonshoes11 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Startalk is a great podcast. Neil and Chuck are always entertaining, but their guest on this episode was amazing.
    ✌️

  • @joshnull6132
    @joshnull6132 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Quantum particles can’t be influenced by the curves in spacetime because the curves are too large, so that at any local place subatomic particles are doing their thing, that area isn’t curved enough to influence them. If you zoom in on two touching points on a curved line, they aren’t really curved locally. This is how you can have a local group of galaxies moving towards a so called Great Attractor while at the same time the entire universe itself is expanding apart. The local spacetime can be incongruently fluid with respect to the motion of the entire universe.

    • @marklenhay5903
      @marklenhay5903 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      so how would you explain gravitational lensing where there is a curvature in space time where the path of light around it is visibly bent ?

  • @dustinwarender8955
    @dustinwarender8955 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have literally always said that gravity isn't its own thing. It's a combination of gyroscopic procession and mass and the directions that we are spinning against the magnetic current, which is holding us down.

    • @dustinwarender8955
      @dustinwarender8955 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You have the magnetic current from the Sun holding us down on the Earth. You have the magnetic current from the Earth, holding us down in the Earth from the Solar System and from the Galaxy and so on. And this combination of electromagnetism and gyroscopic prosession, along with atmosphere, creates gravity. That's why when you go to venus it's not gravity that crushes you it's atmospheric pressure that crushes you

  • @pushlocal5040
    @pushlocal5040 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Terrance Howard has started a tidal wave

  • @user-xn9eg8pq6e
    @user-xn9eg8pq6e 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The macro to micro concept lens?

  • @marishkagrayson
    @marishkagrayson 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So the universe is post-impressionistic! 😊Very beautiful. ❤

  • @leonardomotta4613
    @leonardomotta4613 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This a very old idea, set up by Ted Jacobson in 1995. His set up of gravity as emergent is a very well known research topic in physics.

  • @brianquigley1940
    @brianquigley1940 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Gravity emerges from..." ---- d'oh! You mean it just leapt out at you from behind a bush? Or do you mean that the collective interaction between particles gives rise to a cumulative force? And take away the particles and there is no gravity? D'OH!

    • @starventure
      @starventure 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I give you a thumbs up for being the first person here to mention cumulative force. Apes alone weak, apes together strong.

    • @brianquigley1940
      @brianquigley1940 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@starventure This great ape accepts your opposable thumbs up... and returns one to you for your movie allusion.

  • @istoa22
    @istoa22 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is why there must be so much space in space, otherwise it would collapse

  • @unclerojelio6320
    @unclerojelio6320 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No wonder we've never discovered the Grand Unified Theory. There isn't one.