The company my husband works for needs drivers, mainly MR class. Hubby ends up training newbies, then they leave. They don’t want to reverse, secure loads, load or unload using hiabs, don’t want to learn the whole job. He just starts training with reversing to save wasting time. If you can’t reverse or learn to reverse, this is not your calling 🤦🏼♀️ What worries him is that some company somewhere will put these numpties in a truck & they’re so bloody dangerous!
@@darrengray2309 No need to apologise :) Hubby says it can be dangerous but not if protocols are followed & the gear is maintained. He’s spent 30 years working with hiabs, half of that in the construction industry as a rigger & now with a transport company. He is paid extra for having his hiab licence so that’s definitely a bonus. Mesh & bars are not fun that’s for sure ✌🏼
90% driver cannot reverse, over 50% of trucks on the road dont have secure loads. 100% what a truck driver says is bullshit, This one will save you time.
A lot of companies are just hiring drivers as steering wheel holders rather than actual professional drivers. Cleveland's are renowned along with Garden Grove drivers for just bad driving and bad attitudes as drivers. Last year there were drivers coming down the SE freeway into Adelaide who burned out their service brakes as they didn't know how to use their jake brakes for a safe downhill descent and ended up in the arrestor beds. Good Video as always Terry.
Worked for Alan back in the 70's. He was a prick then, but at least they hired experienced operators. Later as an owner driver, I was contracting for a company out of Brooklyn in Melbourne. My daughter was due to be born so told them I'm parking my truck up for a month. I was loading tyres, they sent a young bloke out to pick up the trailer. He couldn't tie a rope, didn't know how to disconnect the trailer and didn't know how to tarp. Told me he'd been driving an aluminium sided rigid around town before getting this job. I told the company he was inexperienced, they didn't care. The kid took the load to Sydney and on the return trip, carting doors, the load moved, rolled him and he was killed just out of Seymour. Collins and Finamores were two more that hired cowboys back then. Seems Scott's have gone to shit now too. So bloody pleased I'm out of the game and retired.
For sure, I no longer "trust" the modern truck driver. Travelling up and down the Hume as I do, you used to be able to put your life in their hands . . . now there is no way I'd trust any "imported driver".
@@tezthetruckie Back in the 80's when I was based in Perth and running north west and east west, the unwritten rule was if you saw a truck on the side of the road (not in a parking bay) then you gave them a call. If they replied they were OK you kept going, if they didn't then you stopped to see if they needed a hand. These days, most of the "modern drivers" will do their best to run you over if you're changing a tyre or fixing something under the bonnet. Different times, different attitudes and culture.
as an old worn out operator of road trains until i got taken out by a set of duels of a truck , the reason ya can get young people to drive is simple ,,,, truck driver = abused ,used, underpaid, over worked never enough sleep , never enough time off and the best part is go load ya truck tomorrow but be there yesterday , , if you want young people to come into the industry pay a decent wage and train the hell out of em , i was lucky i didnt get taught any bad habits when i started but i had 1 of the hardest old buggers take me under his wing and teach me the tricks of the trade that NO ONE shows ya , just my thoughts on the industry as a whole ,and get the laws changed so they are the same across Australia .
Couldn't agree more with your comments brother. No mystery as to why it is difficult to get people into the industry, so they go for those types who will do anything and get paid next to nothing, but blokes like that have always been around I suppose. Show a newby a shiny rig and they'll get excited and do anything. Crap or non existent training, crap maintenance, crap money, arrogant freight forwarders / allocators with their "couldn't give a shit" attitudes (usually university types) and add "chain of responsibility" laws (where the bosses got you to sign some papers to get them off the hook), has meant the trucking game has lost a lot of the fun and satisfaction we used to get. Still some good operators out there, but after 36 years in the game, I'm out. Retired earlier than planned, but I'm out, - and my sanity is saved. Good luck fellas, keep safe.
My dad drove trucks in Western Victoria and down the south east in the 80s and early 90s. As a kid I saw some drivers not be able to tie knots like he could too. He was glad to get out when he did. Drivers were so much better educated back then. Sad to see this happening in the trucking industry now. Your so right with your video mate
I live in Melbourne and work for a truck supplier and I can tell you that their drivers have had a bad reputation for a long time. Way before ex pizza drivers etc started!! I am 66 yo. We all used to laugh at the poor condition of their older trucks as well. The real problem is how companies are run. But Terry I can tell you that there many more companies that are badly run with bad drivers as you would well know. It is a known problem in the industry. I was brought up in a trucking family (never drove trucks ) and remember the days of the gentlemen truck drivers. Today they are few and far between. Stay safe and happy trucking to yourself!!!
That last driver, WTF!? How do you have the license but you are not able to disconnect or reverse the vehicle? When I got my licence, I was taught that if you can't drive it backwards, then you shouldn't be allowed to drive it forward. We were also taught all the basics of truck operations. It's just crazy to give someone a license without the proper training.
Just surfing and came across your video. Great work. I worked for a tarp place and saw lots of trucks come into our factory and even though I didn't have a HR licence I knew I could do a better job than them at reversing trucks. It's a pity that inexperienced drivers are getting behind these types of trucks.
This is what I heard out on the roads, don’t know how true, but let’s just say NHVR have asked me to move/relocate double in the past because of this.. It’s all to do with the poot poots, they come over here on a work visa as there isn’t enough MC drivers ,from India. Snotts get them as they are cheaper, can’t speak ringrish and are expendable. When the poot poots get here they go to service Sa and get issued a MC license as their Indian license is also a MC license. The trouble is in India a MC license stand for motor car, not multi combination. The incident on the M5 was a poot poot, who was driving for the first time. The cops asked him to reverse back and was making a hash of it. So another driver had to come in. When the nsw authorities investigated the driver, he hadn’t even driven a truck before let alone a b double. Now, THIS DIDNT MAKE THE NEWS BECAUSE ITS A SA GOVERNMENT FUCKED UP/COVERUP. I have had many many run ins with snotts, auswide, and many other Indian predominant or owned transport companies.,geez nearly had 4 head ons with these poot poots. Even have gotten into a punch up with one at the Sa/vic checkpoint after he run me of the road 10 km earlier.
Yep.I drive a B Double up & down the Hume & it’s getting a little scary out there.99% chance that if you are coming up on a poorly maintained European truck that it is a poot poot ding ding TRYING to drive it.
@@blastermaster2383 When you hear them on the CB banging on in their language and you tell them it’s not the fucking SBS channel, they alway come back with they are going to take over the whole trucking industry, and now apparently they want take our wives as well.
@@jtonline99 firstly you can’t be called a racist if you hate everyone equally. Secondly the fact is that driving on our highways is more deadly than lighting matches in a fireworks factory, which bring me to my third point, that the poot poot have a reputation in the industry ,who have killed many innocent people, oh that’s right ,one killed 4 police officers in Melbourne. When you have near head on with these pricks and get pushed off the highway, I have every right to call them what I want. Unless you are a interstate driver, you cannot comment . I don’t risk my life or the equipment to do my job, these wanks are nothing but ticking time bombs. For example. Just today down the hill running into Adelaide, a professional multi combination driver of Indian origin has pulled up in a b double with the brakes nearly on fire. If the stupid prick hit you or killed someone you know ,would you have the same opinion. I tell it how it is , unlike you I don’t wrap myself in cotton wool .
Your 100% correct regarding no experience or trained up drivers in control of these big rigs, Scott’s are shockers but there’s a hell of a lot of other companies just as bad…..supermarket trucks are deadly! Too be fair a lot of what goes on is not all about training and experience, there’s simply a lot of arrogant cowboys on the roads! Having said that….there’s also a lot of courteous professional drivers that deserve huge amounts of respect, it’s a job I can’t imagine doing day in and day out dealing with absolute flogs in cars with no understanding of what’s involved in safety operating these trucks that’s are just getting bigger and bigger with increasing deadlines and pressure’s placed on drivers. Constantly away from home and family, living out of a duffel bag and truck is not my idea of fun….so my hat goes off too the “Professional Drivers” out there doing a thankless job! Without trucks Australia stops…..simple as that!
Well said, Pub60. As a Truck Driver myself I cannot believe how easy it is to get a Heavy Vehicle licence ... and I blame that in the State Gov Dept of Roads that they reside in. A half hour "test" isn't a competency, not by a long shot. In saying that, can't blame the drivers of the big rigs too much either, tough job and requires a lot of concentration, many days without rest break at all. Ultimately, a boss of a Truck Company should have a duty of care to go with EVERY SINGLE DRIVER for A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ERRANDS. It's not good enough having never had a passenger day in/day out, those mistakes go uncorrected and hopefully doesn't kill or injure anyone in between times.
Hey. Talking about knowing what to do. Back in the early 70's I applied for a job as a long distance driver with W.G. Hicks in Sth Melbourne. The transport manager handed me a load manifest, pointed to an old (it was new then) 1418 merc and said. Come back when you've loaded it. Did that, went back in, he walked around the load, checked ropes and chains. Then said, that you first load out to Barry's beach (esso). I said, aren't you going to test my driving skills? No, he said, any bloody idiot can point a truck but loading correctly and safely takes experience. Never forgot that, I was 21 at the time, but I'd been driving since I was 14. My grandfather, an owner driver, like my old man taught me, you steer your vehicle, but you drive everyone else's. That little bit of advice has saved my arse many times from morons being dickheads.
Scotts of Mount Gambier have some of the worst drivers. I have personally met a few and they are clearly very poorly educated. Somebody should cancel Scott's ability to drive on the road until all their drivers pass tests to determine their competence.
Nah, there finished, the trailers with Scott's of Mt Gambier are people who bought there trailer at firesales, but didn't robot the name. Scott's refrigerated are still in business, they are owned by a Chinese multi national.
we used to get a delivery from a Queensland based 4wd accessory company every 2 weeks and most of the drivers could not reverse or disconnect their trailers either they used to beg us to take our unregistered forklift out to the road to unload , very similar driver to the one in the video who could not unhitch or reverse :-)
I see this "dumbing down" of job skill requirements all over, not just in the trucking industry. I see warehouse operators who have no clue how to properly load a truck where they will put all the light stuff at the front of the trailer and the heaviest and most awkward at the back, pretty much guaranteeing that a truck going through scales will be pulled over for being overweight and or not having enough weight on the drive wheels to properly pull the load, especially uphill or in slippery conditions. I see shippers of looking at weight and not cubes trying to shove more volume into a trailer than it can safely accommodate or looking at the cubic volume but not weighing it so that the trailer is overloaded, and sometimes dangerously so. I see drivers who can only drive automatic and have no idea how to properly drive even an automatic (I pressed the accelerator but its not going forwards - check for wheel chocks or dock locks, check to see if the air brakes are still on, etc, etc), let alone back up a B double without jack-knifing or taking out a vehicle alongside when they bulge in the middle. Most new employees these days are just out for the paycheque, not a care in the world about long term career, skill development or the company they work for. No clue as to how what they do affects the general public (overtaking on double lines), running red lights, etc and the completely narcissistic attitude of "i am more important than anyone else".
I work in Logistics as a forky. handling pallets of wine all day, and have learned from most drivers to load the front of the A trailer, a little lighter at the front with the heavier pallets toward the back of it..then on the B trailer, start with some lighter pallets at the front,working towards the heavier ones in the middle of it, then if I can, lighter towards the back again so that the middle and rear tri axles dont have too much weight on them, and the load is spread fairly evenly.
Exactly. Nor would they even be required if the pay was high enough. The same thing has happened all over. As reported in recent months the UK now has a desperate shortage of drivers because so many eastern Europeans have gone home due to Brexit.
Here is an interesting story about changing tyres.... (on a car). Back in the mid 1970's, I worked in the tyre game. As a community experiment, a field day was held near the town I worked in. Part of the field day involved tests in mechanical knowledge. The participants were 10 men and 10 women, who did not work in any mechanical roles. One of the tests was changing a tyre. This exercise required them to jack up a car, remove a wheel and replace it with the spare wheel. They were not allowed to watch others doing it, before their turn came. The final outcome was surprising - 5 out of the 10 men failed the task... 3 of the 10 women failed the task. There were a lot of crushed male egos as I recall. It all came down to using simple logic to solve a problem. The women nailed it on the day. True story.
I trained on b-doubles with Ray Scott and we had to back up 100 metres in a straight line and around corners and uncouple an hook up again , I was working for K&S Melb at the time
Hi Terry I remember stopping a semi in victoria when i was working. The driver and his brother got out of the truck stating they were driving from queensland to melbourne. I asked for their log books and they showed me a log book that they had been sharing for the last two years whilst in the removal business. They were told they needed a log book so they got ONE. Made me laugh but once again dangerous not knowing the rules. Bravo from Victoria Australia
Cause they were able to pass the one day course to drive around Melbourne at 60km hour for 45min. That allows them to drive.. then when reality hits they gotta drive all the way to Sydney they screwed cause they can't keep it straight for that long
Ok, so my 2 cents worth. I work in logistics, as a forklift driver, for a large wine bottling/shipping company in the Barossa. now, we dont use Scott's transport, but we use another large transport company, that also does a lot of sub contracting to another company that uses what seems to be only ethnic drivers. some of them can barely speak english at all, and have a lot of trouble backing B doubles in between 2 other trucks in our load bay. we have had some that havent even been able to understand us at all. one that comes to mind was a B double driven by a foreign guy. after he pulled in, I gave him time to open up the curtains and shift his gates, get his straps sorted etc. he asked in extremely poor english, how many pallets of wine there were, and had trouble understanding me telling him, that he had 32 to go on. after struggling to get him to work that out, I asked him how he wanted then on the truck..how many on the A trailer, and how many on the B trailer. his reply?...'yes'.. ok then..I next asked him where he wanted the heavier pallets...his reply again?...'yes'...fortunately, having a lot of experience on how to load trucks, and spread the weight so its evenly shared over the 2 trailers, and not too heavy on the drive,or the 'B' gooseneck, I went ahead and loaded his truck for him. I have since found out, from other Aussie drivers, that they can come here and basically do a licence swap for the one back in their home country, and can start driving B doubles with basically no experience.
I agree with you Terry I got my hr and u had to learn tie downs and how to reverse and I ended being a maitance manager for a bus company so I learned how to change ties, and leaning the in's and out's of an engine by the time I left I learnt a lot of mechanics
Goodday Terry, All I can say everything that needs to be said has been said, both by you & in the comments. Years ago these 457 Visa guys would roll up with a MC Indian Licence. MC in India meant Motorcycle but the authorities here thought Multi Combo so they gave them MC licence. When the gig was found out 4 to 5 years later they retested all the drivers & 97% failed the proper test. It is a sad state of affairs, I see it here in Melbourne on the wharf driving Super's & A Doubles. Look there are some very good Indian Driver's but the majority well you have to worry. Every company I know is looking for drivers. Cheers Louis 👍
If I could speak INDIAN I'd let you know the names of their drivers but because I can't I'll leave it up to 457 specialists SCOTTS of Mt. Gambier !! they don't care about you or me and our safety on the roads !
I saw in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne a few years ago a little white car pull up next to a Woolworths semi. Out jumped an old bloke and he took over the truck to back it in the dock. Then he took off in the car probably to save another driver from overseas. I drive a garbage truck and been with the company for over 20 years and there are many others like me. Now we can't get drivers like we used to. The drivers from overseas don't last long. Dirty job and driving.
I got a job at a transport company as a loading dock hand, it was though an agency. Anyway after unloading and sorting the days deliveries the new boss almost set me out in an MR truck, a license I don't have. Apparently there had been a mix up, I had sent a copy of my license to the agency so they clearly knew what license I held. I don't won't to know how many other in the same situation would have just gone with it and driven a truck they don't have a license for. I ended up doing deliveries in a smaller car license only truck. I was eventually replace and unceremoniously dumped a month later without warning. Ironically a few weeks later they called me back in as the new guy didn't work out and this was like a month before Christmas and they needed the extra help. Eventually i was replaced again but this time I knew it was coming. Weirdly my current job which has less responsibility pays more per hour.
i got my license about 7 years back and did it through a cert III course in Driver Operations, which torght logbook rules, load restraint and knowing your route
@Liam Windsor Some folk are just arrogant with no manners. Who cares, if he drives well. Anyone would think spelling was the be-all and end-all of any comment. We have to many who think themselves to bloody grand to do a real days work. To many prats want bum sitting turn up money, turn up late and leave early.
Interesting collection of replies. No one has convinced me some drivers didnt get their licences in the corn flake packets. 457 has been replaced and remoulded. While I only read a bit of it, it wouldnt surprise me that there are big rig loop holes.
Allan Scott would be turning in his Grave he always ran a great operation but things have changed and I can tell you he would never have allowed this shit to have happened .I first met Allan in the late 60s in Mount Gambier at the sale yards loading sheep he was a great guy and he always had great drivers and for all the clowns out there I have been a Truck driver for over 50 years and I know what I am talking about
Well his daughter well and truely has fucked it . Don’t know how true this story is but one of Allan’s trucks rolled and he went ballistic in the office and sacked everyone in the office. 2 people didn’t leave . Alan said didn’t you fucking hear me , you’re sacked fuck off. One of them responded , you can’t sack us, we work for telecom.
Scotts is renowned for hiring cowboys, when they do get a decent professional driver they treat them like shit and they go elsewhere. My Dad drove for them for awhile and they were a$$holes to work for and many of the other drivers were nut jobs.
Nah never gonna happen because the grubs prefer to sit fat dumb and happy in a dark hidey hole and let computers do their"highway patrolling"job instead.
No matter what you drive or ride, there's always going to be people who just don't care about anything or anyone else on the same roads, they drive in their own little bubble and have 0 awareness. No one lets you in, if there's a merging lane you can almost guarantee there's going to be one clown who must jam their car right to the front and force their way in because they are gaining some much time from doing that, then there's the people who change lanes 1000 times dodging traffic for you to meet them at the same red light up the road. It never ends, I was taught that a driver's licence was a privilege.
Remember when truck driver’s were held in high esteem because of their professional driving skills. Not anymore, i see more cowboys driving trucks than professional driver’s. Great video mate 👍🏻
Wasn't Lindsey Brother's known as the USDTC (upside down transport company) of Australia. I think these Yahoo drivers for Scott's may be heading that way too.
Scott drives are the reject of the reject. Just after Christmas I was drive home around 10pm with my family ( my partner is pregnant with your second and the first one is six months at the time) in the car next minute a Scott truck cuts across 4 lane because he was about miss he’s exit I had to locked up my brake to not get hit by the last trailer I honestly thought we were about to die was the most scarcest thought I’ve had. Me and two other drive pull over to calm down and take 10 before get back on our way home, Not the first time a Scott drive has do something dumb and doubt it will be the last.
Great video we have this problem in nz drivers showing up to drop offs were you have to back in and the driver can t and having the storeman or other drivers to do it back to basics for some of these trucking companys
Every state has that problem .and it's the big transport companies that will hire over sea's drivers with a ridgid licence and they come hear and get a B Double licence .
I had two brother's driving for Scott's. When one of them went for his MC he had to do a driving course on a skid pan and had to know how to disconnect and also how to back his trailers both single and double. He went on to driving road trains after he left Scott's as the constant push to meet impossible schedules with Scott's was killing him. The other brother ended up being forced to leave for medical reasons. He injured himself on a trailer that Scott's knew needed repairing but they would not take it of the road to fix it. he now has permanent injuries and can't drive a truck or even a normal manual car it has to be an auto. He has been screwed around for about 5 years now trying to get compensation but Scott's has more money for lawyers than simple repairs. The needed repairs would have taken trailer of the road for a day at most and parts cost was only around $150.00
"I PAY, YOU GIVE" is what I heard a foreign gentleman say aggressively to his instructor just after he failed in his attempt to gain his HR licence here in Melbourne 🤯
I'm a Truck Driver, got my HR in 4 hours on one day, never driven a truck before lol - that was Mar '21. I've then gained experience on the road with an offsider and now by myself. The company itself that I work/worked for (most of them) don't properly induct or train any driver, they rely on the licence to say you are competent. That's BS. Never had any load restraint training, I have to ask about the truck height and check restrictions, driving an MR on 6 bald tyres. I complained so apparently tomorrow new rubber is going on. DON'T TRUST THE TRUCKING COMPANIES THEY WANT TO MAKE $$$s AND RELY HEAVILY ON THE DRIVERS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
Drive a truck for many years, never seen anything like it, too many cowboys these days, when I see a truck out on the road these days I stay well away, absolutely hopeless.
When I did my HR road ranger in NSW (not long ago), we weren't shown how to change tyres, just the basics outlined by the RMS, load restraint was one of the items, but not something you're assessed on, they just show you and tick it off as they 'deem' you competent. The actual test is purely driving, nothing else, they don't even get you to reverse for the test, only an item you do during training. If you're curious what the RMS tests people on, look up 'A guide to Heavy Vehicle Competency Based Assessment' (covers L/M/HR to MC).
That sounds laughable. as a forky I recently had to do a refresher course, and after I had passed a verbal test, I had the guy follow me around for an hour watching my every move to make sure I was doing it all by the book. so I had to know how to drive backwards using my mirrors, and prove I could load a truck properly to spread the weight right without the driver telling me what to do etc..sounds like the truck drivers get it easier.
You're onto it in terms of skill and experience! 10-15 years ago we had B doubles in the yard all the time, they'd have to come in to the carpark then back 90° around the side of admin and up the ramp. No problem. Most of the time. Really funny when there was though! Now? Those guys are gone. There are rigid drivers that have problems, and watching some single artic's antics trying is cringe worthy.
Many of the big transport companies have imported drivers from India .... and we all know how they drive in India . India's road toll is people actually killed on the road , If you die in a hospital that's not in the road toll . Now How many people die on the road's in India each year 300000 -- 400000 at a guess and do they forge documents ??? The transport companies are not prepared to pay decent wages ...
Reminds me of that Indian truck driver that deliberately swerved across multiple lanes on the Eastern Freeway to run into the back of those police cars in the emergency lane, killing four police.
Part of my rehabilitation after a work accident, I was offered a 2 week course to get my truck license, my wife is a cop most truck accidents she goes to the drivers can’t speak or read English, so how do they get a license
When I was running in the 1980s 90s etc. they were always on about “cowboys” that were giving us a bad name. Nowadays (showing my age) it’s the “Indians”.
Great comment and excuse the pun.😁 Cowboys and Indians.🤠If they had feathers where would we be.? lol Up in the trees with the chooks or on the lake swimming.🦆 lol
Thats a bit of a shame to see drivers that clearly are not trained to be behind the wheel , i cant say im not surprised that a lot of long time experienced drivers have left the show , it was always a tuff game at the best of times , and truck drivers have been the whipping boys of government and industry for decades IMO. And really learning to drive and do the job only just begins once you get a licence , and the learning curve is very steep if you have not been shown the ropes by someone that knows what they are doing . it would pay these big companies to spend a bit more and hire experienced people . Hiring learners that have no clue often ends up with the gear being broken , or a major incident .
Well if you don't taken on any unexperieneced drivers you have none part of the current situation. Most ask for minimum 2+years experience how do you get that? Just a hint the average 20 yr old can't afford rego for the combination let alone to buy a setup. Add the fact there's camera's booking you for 43 in a 40 zone etc. Let alone spelling a town name wrong in your log book. It's a job for a special breed but that's not what there after. They want the straight drug and alcohol free numpties so they found importing them from India etc. And using them as sacrificial disposable employees. Give them a licence and see what happens. I redid my white card recently and there was me and 1 other bloke he couldn't communicate or understand the questions asked he was helped along the way I asked for assistance as I have an intellectual disability but they couldn't help me, I wanted them to dictate my answers as I struggle with hand writing. This country is causing all its issues. Nothing against Indians but there clearly the one's standing out in the crowd. Again I see this regularly on site with tip trucks most recent ones had a brand new Volvo and hardox end tipper beautiful setup however he was dangerous by the other drivers standards and was unable to communicate. And this is coming from someone who struggles with this but can function relatively well in my field, and have found it to be a very accommodating part of the industry.
There are no road rules in India, and mostly rigid vehicles, poor bastards get chucked in the deep end here in Australia with little or no driving examinations by Australian authorities before hitting the road in B-Doubles etc. I bet they are not being paid the award rate plus expenses either, cheap labour = crap drivers.
When I got my hr licence in west oz.. I went thru a driving school and I had a tipper truck and I was never showen how to change a wheel or showen how to do tyre downs.
This is what happens because the government took out TRAINS ! This is what happens poor drivers and terrible roads a dissaster waiting to happen ! Thank you for bringing this to our attention keeproads safe sometruckies are real cowboys I must add and I am always trying to steer clear! Of big sand trucks but I fear one day I will be a statistic from south gippsland 😩
mate i have been doing this for 50 years and you have said what i have been saying for a long time, the worst part is we are not getting new drivers from our young people, they dont wont to do it....
I Remember this. The two M5 incidents where trucks were driven by Indian Drivers who hadent completed Driver training correctly. on interview one of the drivers admitted he didnt know how to reverse a Prime Mover let alown a multi trailer setup.
As a bus driver and professional driver myself, I see too many cowboys. Always in the back of my mind is that if you crash a bus - You WILL be on the news.
In 2014 I got out of full-time general freight truck driving ( after 30 plus years) mainly due to the BS/ hypocrisy, and what seems to be widespread in general freight, of incompatible loads, ie, corrosives with food stuffs ( often with the corrosives loaded on top of the food stuffs)
At 6.11 you said experienced drivers are getting ready to retire and not enough young people coming through to take over? yes there are plenty of us, in fact there is so many of us here wanting to drive a truck but no company wants to give us young fellas a go. they say oooo you need 5 yrs experience..... well how do you get the experience if no one wants to give you a go? Hence why there is a truck driving shortage cause noone wants to give you a go if you are starting out!
Hard to believe how they got there truck licence, well done to you to let us know. Just keep clear when you see a Scott Truck. When will Mt Gambier get it's train service back?
Yep, have had that happen a few times where I work. they cant back a B double in between 2 other trucks in our load bay, and an Aussie driver has had to do it for them.
Great video as usual Terry.. I got my hr licence 10yrs ago for transporting bees around Qld & NSW, I never once was asked to connect a trailer or back a trailer up.
Why would you need to back a trailer on a rigid truck? HR stands for Heavy Rigid, No trailers. HA, Heavy Articulated (semi trailer), or MC, Multi Combination (B Doubles), is for trailers attached to a prime mover.
It’s a pity so many good safe truck drivers get lumped in with the idiots. Especially the idiots that rub the paint of your rear bumper in restricted speed areas (road works etc). I now have a laser range finder connected to my camera system that records distance every two seconds. It also pisses them of that I leave a reasonable distance from the vehicle in front, it’s so I can slow down slowly so I don’t get hit by a tailgating truck. Many thanks to the good safe truckies that keep goods moving.
Unfortunately its not just transport workers. It driver in general in Sydney. People everywhere in drove who just dont know the road rules. Also does not help the RMS keeps changing some rules around without notification to anybody but those who have read the latest Learner handbook. Ontop of that you have 1000s of distracted idiots behind the wheel.
The problem is with the competency based assessment system you pay you money and you mate the assessor ticks the boxes, this is very prevalent with those from the "sub continent". My son drives trucks and often has these drivers asking other drivers to reverse their trucks into the loading bay, several times he's jokingly said yep cost you $50 and they pay up, lord help us all
Ah, the good old 457 drivers…what a great idea that was. I’m sure all those people were in the mythical “blind spot” that so many morons that drive trucks now blame for everything. Back when 8 was taught to drive a truck, the instructors drummed it into us that you are NOT a king of the road, better than everyone else. That you use your mirrors, lean forwards, move around in the seat, check everything around you before you change lanes. And if you aren’t sure, DON’T DO IT. Now it seems that literally everywhere apart from a tiny window directly in front of the drivers eyes is “a blind spot”, and they cannot see anything else around them. And yes, we had to learn to reverse around corners too back in the 90’s.
Forty-odd years ago, getting a C class (as they were called back then) was fairly easy depending on where you went for the test. I went for mine in a country town but the cops knew I'd been driving an 8-tonne truck for a few years already. So the cop took me out and then made me reverse down the road for fifty metres just off the gutter. All he wanted to know was whether I used my mirrors properly. It terrifies me that even though it's a more complex process nowadays, it seems they're almost handing MC tickets to anyone. Doubles aren't toys and take some serious time behind the wheel before you get used to them.
This is shocking to see this standard of driving with a large killing machine. We're having the same problems in the UK with getting esperanced drivers 😒
Yeah lots of the trucks in this area are like this… South east south Australia is slightly wild west like… Maybe partly because there is no competition from rail… Because Mr Scott campaigned against rail back in the day… And it’s just an isolated area
We live in the central west NSW and my missus was down town doing a bit of shopping and she ran into an old friend who she hasn't seen in over ten yrs, whose father owns a rather large transport company. Mainly semis. She said her father said that there had been a lot of Indian drivers turning up looking for jobs with fake licences. She said he has also been offered bonuses if he hired Indian drivers. I asked who offered the bonuses the government or an employment agency? But she said she forgot to ask. Also i don't know if those who he was offered bonuses to hire were the ones with the fake licenses. (I'm not sure as my wife also forgot to ask.) Her father told them that the money isn't the issue. It's the fact that they "Can't fucking drive". I've heard talk about these fuckers being hired so employees can collect a bonus. But this is the first confirmation. Also he has reported those with the fake license's but has never heard back.
You might find its the employment agencies offering those 'bonuses'. you see, every time a labourhire/ employment agency signs somebody up, and get them work somewhere, they get a payment from the government. I've heard different amounts from different sources so cant really say how much it is, because I dont really know, but it is in the thousands from what I can work out. so the more workers they can put on the more they get. so for them its a cash cow that lines their pockets, even if the workers/ drivers they take on arent really capable / experienced enough for the roles they put them in. like everything else these days, the bottom line is all that matters, regardless of how they get it.
@@catey62 I know how employment agencies work. And how they make their money by getting people jobs. Which is 100% fair. I also know there was a program some yrs ago. Where the government would pay the company a "bonus" (which added up to about 6 weeks wages) if they hired someone who was classed as "long term unemployed". Which was also a good idea. But this was neither of those things. If an employer is looking for an employee. No agency is going to offer an employer a bonus for hiring someone if they don't have too. This was a case of an employer being offered a bonus if they hired a foreign worker instead of an Australian. This is a case of someone saying to an employer "hey hire this foreign driver instead of that Australian and you will get paid a "bonus"
Friend of mine a couple of years ago got his heavy ticket at Dandenong in Melbourne .And you walk in and a couple of hours later walk out fully qualified to drive a heavy vehicle, and just another point of interest the whole class other than my friend all had High Vis Turbins on their head. SAY NO MORE I REST MY CASE. Vic roads may as well just give them their ticket out of the Corn Flakes Packet,
The company my husband works for needs drivers, mainly MR class. Hubby ends up training newbies, then they leave. They don’t want to reverse, secure loads, load or unload using hiabs, don’t want to learn the whole job. He just starts training with reversing to save wasting time. If you can’t reverse or learn to reverse, this is not your calling 🤦🏼♀️ What worries him is that some company somewhere will put these numpties in a truck & they’re so bloody dangerous!
Sorry but can understand why they don't want unload using a Hiab it's dangerous and poorly paid I've spent the last 10 years delivering mesh and bar
@@darrengray2309 No need to apologise :) Hubby says it can be dangerous but not if protocols are followed & the gear is maintained. He’s spent 30 years working with hiabs, half of that in the construction industry as a rigger & now with a transport company. He is paid extra for having his hiab licence so that’s definitely a bonus. Mesh & bars are not fun that’s for sure ✌🏼
90% driver cannot reverse, over 50% of trucks on the road dont have secure loads. 100% what a truck driver says is bullshit, This one will save you time.
@@timeofyourlife7561 and you're an expert in the subject are you knackers
@@darrengray2309 😮💨
A lot of companies are just hiring drivers as steering wheel holders rather than actual professional drivers. Cleveland's are renowned along with Garden Grove drivers for just bad driving and bad attitudes as drivers. Last year there were drivers coming down the SE freeway into Adelaide who burned out their service brakes as they didn't know how to use their jake brakes for a safe downhill descent and ended up in the arrestor beds. Good Video as always Terry.
Garden Grove are without doubt the most dangerous company to be near on the road. They drive those things like Toyota Camrys.
Worked for Alan back in the 70's. He was a prick then, but at least they hired experienced operators. Later as an owner driver, I was contracting for a company out of Brooklyn in Melbourne. My daughter was due to be born so told them I'm parking my truck up for a month. I was loading tyres, they sent a young bloke out to pick up the trailer. He couldn't tie a rope, didn't know how to disconnect the trailer and didn't know how to tarp. Told me he'd been driving an aluminium sided rigid around town before getting this job. I told the company he was inexperienced, they didn't care. The kid took the load to Sydney and on the return trip, carting doors, the load moved, rolled him and he was killed just out of Seymour. Collins and Finamores were two more that hired cowboys back then. Seems Scott's have gone to shit now too. So bloody pleased I'm out of the game and retired.
For sure, I no longer "trust" the modern truck driver. Travelling up and down the Hume as I do, you used to be able to put your life in their hands . . . now there is no way I'd trust any "imported driver".
I don't trust any one on the road.
Hi
@@tezthetruckie Back in the 80's when I was based in Perth and running north west and east west, the unwritten rule was if you saw a truck on the side of the road (not in a parking bay) then you gave them a call. If they replied they were OK you kept going, if they didn't then you stopped to see if they needed a hand. These days, most of the "modern drivers" will do their best to run you over if you're changing a tyre or fixing something under the bonnet. Different times, different attitudes and culture.
@@gregdarby6225 100% with on that. But most driver today they don't konw how to fix the basic thing.
as an old worn out operator of road trains until i got taken out by a set of duels of a truck , the reason ya can get young people to drive is simple ,,,, truck driver = abused ,used, underpaid, over worked never enough sleep , never enough time off and the best part is go load ya truck tomorrow but be there yesterday , , if you want young people to come into the industry pay a decent wage and train the hell out of em , i was lucky i didnt get taught any bad habits when i started but i had 1 of the hardest old buggers take me under his wing and teach me the tricks of the trade that NO ONE shows ya , just my thoughts on the industry as a whole ,and get the laws changed so they are the same across Australia .
Too true.
I've got great respect for the older truckers,met a few in the mid 80's,while hitch-hiking through central NSW.
Couldn't agree more with your comments brother. No mystery as to why it is difficult to get people into the industry, so they go for those types who will do anything and get paid next to nothing, but blokes like that have always been around I suppose. Show a newby a shiny rig and they'll get excited and do anything. Crap or non existent training, crap maintenance, crap money, arrogant freight forwarders / allocators with their "couldn't give a shit" attitudes (usually university types) and add "chain of responsibility" laws (where the bosses got you to sign some papers to get them off the hook), has meant the trucking game has lost a lot of the fun and satisfaction we used to get. Still some good operators out there, but after 36 years in the game, I'm out. Retired earlier than planned, but I'm out, - and my sanity is saved. Good luck fellas, keep safe.
This is what happens when you hire pizza delivery drivers.
Lol
So funny
hire your mum
Still can't get the pizza delivered on time.
My dad drove trucks in Western Victoria and down the south east in the 80s and early 90s. As a kid I saw some drivers not be able to tie knots like he could too. He was glad to get out when he did. Drivers were so much better educated back then. Sad to see this happening in the trucking industry now. Your so right with your video mate
thank you mate.
Same with nursing
I live in Melbourne and work for a truck supplier and I can tell you that their drivers have had a bad reputation for a long time. Way before ex pizza drivers etc started!! I am 66 yo.
We all used to laugh at the poor condition of their older trucks as well. The real problem is how companies are run. But Terry I can tell you that there many more companies that are badly run with bad drivers as you would well know. It is a known problem in the industry. I was brought up in a trucking family (never drove trucks ) and remember the days of the gentlemen truck drivers.
Today they are few and far between. Stay safe and happy trucking to yourself!!!
That bloke with the ambulance should have lost his truck license right away. Never to get it back
I agree, like the guy that posted this video said, he had no reason at all to even change lanes in the first place.
That last driver, WTF!? How do you have the license but you are not able to disconnect or reverse the vehicle?
When I got my licence, I was taught that if you can't drive it backwards, then you shouldn't be allowed to drive it forward.
We were also taught all the basics of truck operations.
It's just crazy to give someone a license without the proper training.
Just surfing and came across your video. Great work. I worked for a tarp place and saw lots of trucks come into our factory and even though I didn't have a HR licence I knew I could do a better job than them at reversing trucks. It's a pity that inexperienced drivers are getting behind these types of trucks.
This is what I heard out on the roads, don’t know how true, but let’s just say NHVR have asked me to move/relocate double in the past because of this.. It’s all to do with the poot poots, they come over here on a work visa as there isn’t enough MC drivers ,from India. Snotts get them as they are cheaper, can’t speak ringrish and are expendable. When the poot poots get here they go to service Sa and get issued a MC license as their Indian license is also a MC license. The trouble is in India a MC license stand for motor car, not multi combination. The incident on the M5 was a poot poot, who was driving for the first time. The cops asked him to reverse back and was making a hash of it. So another driver had to come in. When the nsw authorities investigated the driver, he hadn’t even driven a truck before let alone a b double. Now, THIS DIDNT MAKE THE NEWS BECAUSE ITS A SA GOVERNMENT FUCKED UP/COVERUP. I have had many many run ins with snotts, auswide, and many other Indian predominant or owned transport companies.,geez nearly had 4 head ons with these poot poots. Even have gotten into a punch up with one at the Sa/vic checkpoint after he run me of the road 10 km earlier.
That's pretty fucked up
Yep.I drive a B Double up & down the Hume & it’s getting a little scary out there.99% chance that if you are coming up on a poorly maintained European truck that it is a poot poot ding ding TRYING to drive it.
@@blastermaster2383 When you hear them on the CB banging on in their language and you tell them it’s not the fucking SBS channel, they alway come back with they are going to take over the whole trucking industry, and now apparently they want take our wives as well.
You might have had a valid point to make, but it was lost for me the sec you started writing all the racist slurs. Grow up please.
@@jtonline99 firstly you can’t be called a racist if you hate everyone equally. Secondly the fact is that driving on our highways is more deadly than lighting matches in a fireworks factory, which bring me to my third point, that the poot poot have a reputation in the industry ,who have killed many innocent people, oh that’s right ,one killed 4 police officers in Melbourne. When you have near head on with these pricks and get pushed off the highway, I have every right to call them what I want. Unless you are a interstate driver, you cannot comment . I don’t risk my life or the equipment to do my job, these wanks are nothing but ticking time bombs. For example. Just today down the hill running into Adelaide, a professional multi combination driver of Indian origin has pulled up in a b double with the brakes nearly on fire. If the stupid prick hit you or killed someone you know ,would you have the same opinion. I tell it how it is , unlike you I don’t wrap myself in cotton wool .
At 5.15min - you said it well buddy...
Scotts - putting their profit before our safety and lives ...
Corporate shame on you - Scotts Transport...
Your 100% correct regarding no experience or trained up drivers in control of these big rigs, Scott’s are shockers but there’s a hell of a lot of other companies just as bad…..supermarket trucks are deadly! Too be fair a lot of what goes on is not all about training and experience, there’s simply a lot of arrogant cowboys on the roads! Having said that….there’s also a lot of courteous professional drivers that deserve huge amounts of respect, it’s a job I can’t imagine doing day in and day out dealing with absolute flogs in cars with no understanding of what’s involved in safety operating these trucks that’s are just getting bigger and bigger with increasing deadlines and pressure’s placed on drivers. Constantly away from home and family, living out of a duffel bag and truck is not my idea of fun….so my hat goes off too the “Professional Drivers” out there doing a thankless job!
Without trucks Australia stops…..simple as that!
Well said, Pub60. As a Truck Driver myself I cannot believe how easy it is to get a Heavy Vehicle licence ... and I blame that in the State Gov Dept of Roads that they reside in. A half hour "test" isn't a competency, not by a long shot. In saying that, can't blame the drivers of the big rigs too much either, tough job and requires a lot of concentration, many days without rest break at all. Ultimately, a boss of a Truck Company should have a duty of care to go with EVERY SINGLE DRIVER for A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ERRANDS. It's not good enough having never had a passenger day in/day out, those mistakes go uncorrected and hopefully doesn't kill or injure anyone in between times.
The first clip is Scotts refrigerated, part of the AHG group not Scotts of Mount Gambier.
Hey. Talking about knowing what to do. Back in the early 70's I applied for a job as a long distance driver with W.G. Hicks in Sth Melbourne. The transport manager handed me a load manifest, pointed to an old (it was new then) 1418 merc and said. Come back when you've loaded it. Did that, went back in, he walked around the load, checked ropes and chains. Then said, that you first load out to Barry's beach (esso). I said, aren't you going to test my driving skills? No, he said, any bloody idiot can point a truck but loading correctly and safely takes experience. Never forgot that, I was 21 at the time, but I'd been driving since I was 14. My grandfather, an owner driver, like my old man taught me, you steer your vehicle, but you drive everyone else's. That little bit of advice has saved my arse many times from morons being dickheads.
Very true
If they were rocket scientists or brain surgeons, they wouldn't be driving trucks. It's that simple.
They'd be driving taxis...
Scotts of Mount Gambier have some of the worst drivers. I have personally met a few and they are clearly very poorly educated. Somebody should cancel Scott's ability to drive on the road until all their drivers pass tests to determine their competence.
pretty sure the Gambier one went bankrupt
@@AccompaKneed nah there still out there
Ha ha ha .Poorly educated?????? Thatys a prerequisite isnt it?
Nah, there finished, the trailers with Scott's of Mt Gambier are people who bought there trailer at firesales, but didn't robot the name. Scott's refrigerated are still in business, they are owned by a Chinese multi national.
@@SO-om2yy thats what I was thinking. I see none of their truck operating, only trailers I see.
we used to get a delivery from a Queensland based 4wd accessory company every 2 weeks and most of the drivers could not reverse or disconnect their trailers either they used to beg us to take our unregistered forklift out to the road to unload , very similar driver to the one in the video who could not unhitch or reverse :-)
I see this "dumbing down" of job skill requirements all over, not just in the trucking industry. I see warehouse operators who have no clue how to properly load a truck where they will put all the light stuff at the front of the trailer and the heaviest and most awkward at the back, pretty much guaranteeing that a truck going through scales will be pulled over for being overweight and or not having enough weight on the drive wheels to properly pull the load, especially uphill or in slippery conditions. I see shippers of looking at weight and not cubes trying to shove more volume into a trailer than it can safely accommodate or looking at the cubic volume but not weighing it so that the trailer is overloaded, and sometimes dangerously so. I see drivers who can only drive automatic and have no idea how to properly drive even an automatic (I pressed the accelerator but its not going forwards - check for wheel chocks or dock locks, check to see if the air brakes are still on, etc, etc), let alone back up a B double without jack-knifing or taking out a vehicle alongside when they bulge in the middle. Most new employees these days are just out for the paycheque, not a care in the world about long term career, skill development or the company they work for. No clue as to how what they do affects the general public (overtaking on double lines), running red lights, etc and the completely narcissistic attitude of "i am more important than anyone else".
Incompetence runs rife, I blame parents, and I blame those parent's parents, so on and so forth.
I work in Logistics as a forky. handling pallets of wine all day, and have learned from most drivers to load the front of the A trailer, a little lighter at the front with the heavier pallets toward the back of it..then on the B trailer, start with some lighter pallets at the front,working towards the heavier ones in the middle of it, then if I can, lighter towards the back again so that the middle and rear tri axles dont have too much weight on them, and the load is spread fairly evenly.
457 visa drivers are a health and safety issue. Should not be permitted.
Exactly. Nor would they even be required if the pay was high enough. The same thing has happened all over. As reported in recent months the UK now has a desperate shortage of drivers because so many eastern Europeans have gone home due to Brexit.
Here is an interesting story about changing tyres.... (on a car).
Back in the mid 1970's, I worked in the tyre game. As a community experiment, a field day was held near the town I worked in. Part of the field day involved tests in mechanical knowledge. The participants were 10 men and 10 women, who did not work in any mechanical roles.
One of the tests was changing a tyre. This exercise required them to jack up a car, remove a wheel and replace it with the spare wheel.
They were not allowed to watch others doing it, before their turn came.
The final outcome was surprising -
5 out of the 10 men failed the task... 3 of the 10 women failed the task.
There were a lot of crushed male egos as I recall.
It all came down to using simple logic to solve a problem. The women nailed it on the day.
True story.
lol. Thank you for shearing
Or their dads showed them how to do it, like I’ve taught my girls.
I learned how to change a tyre before I bought a car. I can change one in 5 minutes...female
@@JM-ff7iq awesome... good on you 👌
I trained on b-doubles with Ray Scott and we had to back up 100 metres in a straight line and around corners and uncouple an hook up again , I was working for K&S Melb at the time
Hi Terry I remember stopping a semi in victoria when i was working. The driver and his brother got out of the truck stating they were driving from queensland to melbourne. I asked for their log books and they showed me a log book that they had been sharing for the last two years whilst in the removal business. They were told they needed a log book so they got ONE. Made me laugh but once again dangerous not knowing the rules. Bravo from Victoria Australia
Hey Mick, you wouldn't be from east Gippsland by any chance? Ex tog maybe?
You'll find Scott's have a workforce that is 80% un-Australian.
This is bloody stupid, how is someone allowed to drive a vehicle of this size and weight but cant operate it correctly?
Wake up Australia
Cause they were able to pass the one day course to drive around Melbourne at 60km hour for 45min. That allows them to drive.. then when reality hits they gotta drive all the way to Sydney they screwed cause they can't keep it straight for that long
Let’s not forget k&S now own a lot of Scott’s branded trailers all driven by Indians.
K&S bought out Scotts several years back from what I heard
@@michaelhyde-parker6344 K&S and Scotts are the same family.. no difference.
Scotts is owned by K&S.
Ok, so my 2 cents worth. I work in logistics, as a forklift driver, for a large wine bottling/shipping company in the Barossa. now, we dont use Scott's transport, but we use another large transport company, that also does a lot of sub contracting to another company that uses what seems to be only ethnic drivers. some of them can barely speak english at all, and have a lot of trouble backing B doubles in between 2 other trucks in our load bay. we have had some that havent even been able to understand us at all. one that comes to mind was a B double driven by a foreign guy. after he pulled in, I gave him time to open up the curtains and shift his gates, get his straps sorted etc. he asked in extremely poor english, how many pallets of wine there were, and had trouble understanding me telling him, that he had 32 to go on. after struggling to get him to work that out, I asked him how he wanted then on the truck..how many on the A trailer, and how many on the B trailer. his reply?...'yes'.. ok then..I next asked him where he wanted the heavier pallets...his reply again?...'yes'...fortunately, having a lot of experience on how to load trucks, and spread the weight so its evenly shared over the 2 trailers, and not too heavy on the drive,or the 'B' gooseneck, I went ahead and loaded his truck for him. I have since found out, from other Aussie drivers, that they can come here and basically do a licence swap for the one back in their home country, and can start driving B doubles with basically no experience.
I agree with you Terry I got my hr and u had to learn tie downs and how to reverse and I ended being a maitance manager for a bus company so I learned how to change ties, and leaning the in's and out's of an engine by the time I left I learnt a lot of mechanics
MULTICULTURALISM IS WORKING BRILLIANTLY AINT IT
Goodday Terry,
All I can say everything that needs to be said has been said, both by you & in the comments.
Years ago these 457 Visa guys would roll up with a MC Indian Licence.
MC in India meant Motorcycle but the authorities here thought Multi Combo so they gave them MC licence.
When the gig was found out 4 to 5 years later they retested all the drivers & 97% failed the proper test.
It is a sad state of affairs, I see it here in Melbourne on the wharf driving Super's & A Doubles.
Look there are some very good Indian Driver's but the majority well you have to worry.
Every company I know is looking for drivers.
Cheers
Louis 👍
Spot on mate.
If I could speak INDIAN I'd let you know the names of their drivers but because I can't I'll leave it up to 457 specialists SCOTTS of Mt. Gambier !! they don't care about you or me and our safety on the roads !
I am in NSW on the M1and the biggest cowboys here are the guys driving Scrap Metal trucks between Newcastle and Hornsby.
Unrestrained Cowboys.
I saw in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne a few years ago a little white car pull up next to a Woolworths semi. Out jumped an old bloke and he took over the truck to back it in the dock. Then he took off in the car probably to save another driver from overseas. I drive a garbage truck and been with the company for over 20 years and there are many others like me. Now we can't get drivers like we used to. The drivers from overseas don't last long. Dirty job and driving.
I got a job at a transport company as a loading dock hand, it was though an agency. Anyway after unloading and sorting the days deliveries the new boss almost set me out in an MR truck, a license I don't have. Apparently there had been a mix up, I had sent a copy of my license to the agency so they clearly knew what license I held. I don't won't to know how many other in the same situation would have just gone with it and driven a truck they don't have a license for. I ended up doing deliveries in a smaller car license only truck. I was eventually replace and unceremoniously dumped a month later without warning. Ironically a few weeks later they called me back in as the new guy didn't work out and this was like a month before Christmas and they needed the extra help. Eventually i was replaced again but this time I knew it was coming. Weirdly my current job which has less responsibility pays more per hour.
i got my license about 7 years back and did it through a cert III course in Driver Operations, which torght logbook rules, load restraint and knowing your route
Not spelling though??
@@liamwindsor5854 LOL
@Liam Windsor
Some folk are just arrogant with no manners.
Who cares, if he drives well.
Anyone would think spelling was the be-all and end-all of any comment.
We have to many who think themselves to bloody grand to do a real days work.
To many prats want bum sitting turn up money, turn up late and leave early.
Interesting collection of replies. No one has convinced me some drivers didnt get their licences in the corn flake packets. 457 has been replaced and remoulded. While I only read a bit of it, it wouldnt surprise me that there are big rig loop holes.
Allan Scott would be turning in his Grave he always ran a great operation but things have changed and I can tell you he would never have allowed this shit to have happened .I first met Allan in the late 60s in Mount Gambier at the sale yards loading sheep he was a great guy and he always had great drivers and for all the clowns out there I have been a Truck driver for over 50 years and I know what I am talking about
Well his daughter well and truely has fucked it . Don’t know how true this story is but one of Allan’s trucks rolled and he went ballistic in the office and sacked everyone in the office. 2 people didn’t leave . Alan said didn’t you fucking hear me , you’re sacked fuck off. One of them responded , you can’t sack us, we work for telecom.
I think he'd be more concerned about the poor performance of the port power
Another great video Tez! Thank you for sharing your insights on trucking and safety
Thank you mate
Scotts is renowned for hiring cowboys, when they do get a decent professional driver they treat them like shit and they go elsewhere. My Dad drove for them for awhile and they were a$$holes to work for and many of the other drivers were nut jobs.
Frighting the future of trucking if this is the quality of drivers.
Clearly the Police HWP need to up their game & start turning these guys over. Hopeless. Times have certainly changed
I questioned an NHVR officer about this and was told not to be racist.
@@Gilsfishroom great political correctness is trucking, what next 😂
Nah never gonna happen because the grubs prefer to sit fat dumb and happy in a dark hidey hole and let computers do their"highway patrolling"job instead.
That's what happens when you Get off a Elephant and Get a Job Driving a B Double.
Lol
Too right mate Indiana carnts everywhere
No matter what you drive or ride, there's always going to be people who just don't care about anything or anyone else on the same roads, they drive in their own little bubble and have 0 awareness. No one lets you in, if there's a merging lane you can almost guarantee there's going to be one clown who must jam their car right to the front and force their way in because they are gaining some much time from doing that, then there's the people who change lanes 1000 times dodging traffic for you to meet them at the same red light up the road. It never ends, I was taught that a driver's licence was a privilege.
Remember when truck driver’s were held in high esteem because of their professional driving skills. Not anymore, i see more cowboys driving trucks than professional driver’s. Great video mate 👍🏻
An Adelaide concrete company is all imports and they can't even back a concrete truck onto a site .
Wasn't Lindsey Brother's known as the USDTC (upside down transport company) of Australia.
I think these Yahoo drivers for Scott's may be heading that way too.
Scott drives are the reject of the reject. Just after Christmas I was drive home around 10pm with my family ( my partner is pregnant with your second and the first one is six months at the time) in the car next minute a Scott truck cuts across 4 lane because he was about miss he’s exit I had to locked up my brake to not get hit by the last trailer I honestly thought we were about to die was the most scarcest thought I’ve had. Me and two other drive pull over to calm down and take 10 before get back on our way home, Not the first time a Scott drive has do something dumb and doubt it will be the last.
Great video we have this problem in nz drivers showing up to drop offs were you have to back in and the driver can t and having the storeman or other drivers to do it back to basics for some of these trucking companys
Every state has that problem .and it's the big transport companies that will hire over sea's drivers with a ridgid licence and they come hear and get a B Double licence .
I had two brother's driving for Scott's. When one of them went for his MC he had to do a driving course on a skid pan and had to know how to disconnect and also how to back his trailers both single and double. He went on to driving road trains after he left Scott's as the constant push to meet impossible schedules with Scott's was killing him.
The other brother ended up being forced to leave for medical reasons. He injured himself on a trailer that Scott's knew needed repairing but they would not take it of the road to fix it. he now has permanent injuries and can't drive a truck or even a normal manual car it has to be an auto. He has been screwed around for about 5 years now trying to get compensation but Scott's has more money for lawyers than simple repairs. The needed repairs would have taken trailer of the road for a day at most and parts cost was only around $150.00
It’s just swift in disguise
love how up to date you are with all these videos ,2 are subbies, govt. problem they cant reverse. scotts dont even exist anymore
Terry. Love your honesty and analysis. Great job.
Thank you kindly
If you looked closely the trucks are mostly sub contractors Indian 457 visas
"I PAY, YOU GIVE" is what I heard a foreign gentleman say aggressively to his instructor just after he failed in his attempt to gain his HR licence here in Melbourne 🤯
I drove for Scott's back in the 80s today you have different people
I'm a Truck Driver, got my HR in 4 hours on one day, never driven a truck before lol - that was Mar '21.
I've then gained experience on the road with an offsider and now by myself. The company itself that I work/worked for (most of them) don't properly induct or train any driver, they rely on the licence to say you are competent. That's BS. Never had any load restraint training, I have to ask about the truck height and check restrictions, driving an MR on 6 bald tyres. I complained so apparently tomorrow new rubber is going on.
DON'T TRUST THE TRUCKING COMPANIES THEY WANT TO MAKE $$$s AND RELY HEAVILY ON THE DRIVERS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
And when call Scott's they'll blame sub contractors .
Drive a truck for many years, never seen anything like it, too many cowboys these days, when I see a truck out on the road these days I stay well away, absolutely hopeless.
When I did my HR road ranger in NSW (not long ago), we weren't shown how to change tyres, just the basics outlined by the RMS, load restraint was one of the items, but not something you're assessed on, they just show you and tick it off as they 'deem' you competent. The actual test is purely driving, nothing else, they don't even get you to reverse for the test, only an item you do during training. If you're curious what the RMS tests people on, look up 'A guide to Heavy Vehicle
Competency Based Assessment' (covers L/M/HR to MC).
A lot of companies these days don't even want drivers changing tyres , it's deemed a work safe matter.
That sounds laughable. as a forky I recently had to do a refresher course, and after I had passed a verbal test, I had the guy follow me around for an hour watching my every move to make sure I was doing it all by the book. so I had to know how to drive backwards using my mirrors, and prove I could load a truck properly to spread the weight right without the driver telling me what to do etc..sounds like the truck drivers get it easier.
You're onto it in terms of skill and experience!
10-15 years ago we had B doubles in the yard all the time, they'd have to come in to the carpark then back 90° around the side of admin and up the ramp. No problem. Most of the time. Really funny when there was though!
Now?
Those guys are gone. There are rigid drivers that have problems, and watching some single artic's antics trying is cringe worthy.
Many of the big transport companies have imported drivers from India .... and we all know how they drive in India . India's road toll is people actually killed on the road , If you die in a hospital that's not in the road toll . Now How many people die on the road's in India each year 300000 -- 400000 at a guess and do they forge documents ??? The transport companies are not prepared to pay decent wages ...
Reminds me of that Indian truck driver that deliberately swerved across multiple lanes on the Eastern Freeway to run into the back of those police cars in the emergency lane, killing four police.
Scott’s of Mumbai
LOL
Part of my rehabilitation after a work accident, I was offered a 2 week course to get my truck license, my wife is a cop most truck accidents she goes to the drivers can’t speak or read English, so how do they get a license
The Aussie equivalent/version of “SWIFT” trucking company overseas.
yet there are quite a number of unemployed experienced drivers
Probably because they're fed up with the current state of the industry...or, the cheaper imported drivers get the job because they cost less.
When I was running in the 1980s 90s etc. they were always on about “cowboys” that were giving us a bad name. Nowadays (showing my age) it’s the “Indians”.
Wow - i never realised that, but you're 100% right !
😂🤣
Great comment and excuse the pun.😁 Cowboys and Indians.🤠If they had feathers where would we be.? lol Up in the trees with the chooks or on the lake swimming.🦆 lol
Thats a bit of a shame to see drivers that clearly are not trained to be behind the wheel , i cant say im not surprised that a lot of long time experienced drivers have left the show , it was always a tuff game at the best of times , and truck drivers have been the whipping boys of government and industry for decades IMO.
And really learning to drive and do the job only just begins once you get a licence , and the learning curve is very steep if you have not been shown the ropes by someone that knows what they are doing .
it would pay these big companies to spend a bit more and hire experienced people .
Hiring learners that have no clue often ends up with the gear being broken , or a major incident .
Well if you don't taken on any unexperieneced drivers you have none part of the current situation.
Most ask for minimum 2+years experience how do you get that? Just a hint the average 20 yr old can't afford rego for the combination let alone to buy a setup.
Add the fact there's camera's booking you for 43 in a 40 zone etc. Let alone spelling a town name wrong in your log book. It's a job for a special breed but that's not what there after. They want the straight drug and alcohol free numpties so they found importing them from India etc. And using them as sacrificial disposable employees.
Give them a licence and see what happens.
I redid my white card recently and there was me and 1 other bloke he couldn't communicate or understand the questions asked he was helped along the way I asked for assistance as I have an intellectual disability but they couldn't help me, I wanted them to dictate my answers as I struggle with hand writing.
This country is causing all its issues. Nothing against Indians but there clearly the one's standing out in the crowd.
Again I see this regularly on site with tip trucks most recent ones had a brand new Volvo and hardox end tipper beautiful setup however he was dangerous by the other drivers standards and was unable to communicate. And this is coming from someone who struggles with this but can function relatively well in my field, and have found it to be a very accommodating part of the industry.
There are no road rules in India, and mostly rigid vehicles, poor bastards get chucked in the deep end here in Australia with little or no driving examinations by Australian authorities before hitting the road in B-Doubles etc. I bet they are not being paid the award rate plus expenses either, cheap labour = crap drivers.
Scotts are some of the most dangerous driver on our roads.
You're real intelligent - I can tell..!!!
When I got my hr licence in west oz.. I went thru a driving school and I had a tipper truck and I was never showen how to change a wheel or showen how to do tyre downs.
Scott’s were also well known for the drug usage amongst its drivers and improper maintenance of its truck & trailer fleet.
This is what happens because the government took out TRAINS ! This is what happens poor drivers and terrible roads a dissaster waiting to happen ! Thank you for bringing this to our attention keeproads safe sometruckies are real cowboys I must add and I am always trying to steer clear! Of big sand trucks but I fear one day I will be a statistic from south gippsland 😩
mate i have been doing this for 50 years and you have said what i have been saying for a long time, the worst part is we are not getting new drivers from our young people, they dont wont to do it....
I Remember this. The two M5 incidents where trucks were driven by Indian Drivers who hadent completed Driver training correctly. on interview one of the drivers admitted he didnt know how to reverse a Prime Mover let alown a multi trailer setup.
As a bus driver and professional driver myself, I see too many cowboys. Always in the back of my mind is that if you crash a bus - You WILL be on the news.
In 2014 I got out of full-time general freight truck driving ( after 30 plus years) mainly due to the BS/ hypocrisy, and what seems to be widespread in general freight, of incompatible loads, ie, corrosives with food stuffs ( often with the corrosives loaded on top of the food stuffs)
At 6.11 you said experienced drivers are getting ready to retire and not enough young people coming through to take over? yes there are plenty of us, in fact there is so many of us here wanting to drive a truck but no company wants to give us young fellas a go. they say oooo you need 5 yrs experience..... well how do you get the experience if no one wants to give you a go? Hence why there is a truck driving shortage cause noone wants to give you a go if you are starting out!
That the next problem. Find some one to give you experience.
nice video's Terry ......as Derryn Hinch said shame shame shame
Another good video covering a very important topic - Well done Terry.
Thank you Siva
Hard to believe how they got there truck licence, well done to you to let us know.
Just keep clear when you see a Scott Truck. When will Mt Gambier get it's train service back?
Ask people who work at loading docks around Australia how the foreign drivers have to get local workers to back the truck up for them.
Yep, have had that happen a few times where I work. they cant back a B double in between 2 other trucks in our load bay, and an Aussie driver has had to do it for them.
Blenners from Tully north QLD have very similar form. Aggressive, high speed, no room for error. Glad you people like bananas.
Great video as usual Terry..
I got my hr licence 10yrs ago for transporting bees around Qld & NSW, I never once was asked to connect a trailer or back a trailer up.
Maybe because hr is for a rigid?
Why would you need to back a trailer on a rigid truck?
HR stands for Heavy Rigid, No trailers.
HA, Heavy Articulated (semi trailer), or MC, Multi Combination (B Doubles), is for trailers attached to a prime mover.
@@frednutz1604 truck and dog.
@@frednutz1604 you can still tow a trailer on a HR licence (dog/pig). Up to 9Tonne gross on the trailer I think...?
It’s a pity so many good safe truck drivers get lumped in with the idiots. Especially the idiots that rub the paint of your rear bumper in restricted speed areas (road works etc). I now have a laser range finder connected to my camera system that records distance every two seconds. It also pisses them of that I leave a reasonable distance from the vehicle in front, it’s so I can slow down slowly so I don’t get hit by a tailgating truck. Many thanks to the good safe truckies that keep goods moving.
Unfortunately its not just transport workers. It driver in general in Sydney.
People everywhere in drove who just dont know the road rules.
Also does not help the RMS keeps changing some rules around without notification to anybody but those who have read the latest Learner handbook.
Ontop of that you have 1000s of distracted idiots behind the wheel.
Really good publicity for the company!
The problem is with the competency based assessment system you pay you money and you mate the assessor ticks the boxes, this is very prevalent with those from the "sub continent". My son drives trucks and often has these drivers asking other drivers to reverse their trucks into the loading bay, several times he's jokingly said yep cost you $50 and they pay up, lord help us all
Ah, the good old 457 drivers…what a great idea that was.
I’m sure all those people were in the mythical “blind spot” that so many morons that drive trucks now blame for everything. Back when 8 was taught to drive a truck, the instructors drummed it into us that you are NOT a king of the road, better than everyone else. That you use your mirrors, lean forwards, move around in the seat, check everything around you before you change lanes. And if you aren’t sure, DON’T DO IT. Now it seems that literally everywhere apart from a tiny window directly in front of the drivers eyes is “a blind spot”, and they cannot see anything else around them. And yes, we had to learn to reverse around corners too back in the 90’s.
Forty-odd years ago, getting a C class (as they were called back then) was fairly easy depending on where you went for the test. I went for mine in a country town but the cops knew I'd been driving an 8-tonne truck for a few years already. So the cop took me out and then made me reverse down the road for fifty metres just off the gutter. All he wanted to know was whether I used my mirrors properly.
It terrifies me that even though it's a more complex process nowadays, it seems they're almost handing MC tickets to anyone. Doubles aren't toys and take some serious time behind the wheel before you get used to them.
I see this shit and more every day of the week, I travel over 70k a year ! It is horrifying what is happening on our roads every day !!
What Would Alan Scott Think Now.
Since old scotty died they couldn't care less they also own k&s freighters they are even more nuts.
It's the Muppet show with tonight very special guest Scott's of Mt Gambier
This is shocking to see this standard of driving with a large killing machine. We're having the same problems in the UK with getting esperanced drivers 😒
Just as I suspected, foreign drivers, I have seen a B-Double driver at Parkes BP wearing a damn turban
Yeah lots of the trucks in this area are like this… South east south Australia is slightly wild west like… Maybe partly because there is no competition from rail… Because Mr Scott campaigned against rail back in the day… And it’s just an isolated area
We live in the central west NSW and my missus was down town doing a bit of shopping and she ran into an old friend who she hasn't seen in over ten yrs, whose father owns a rather large transport company. Mainly semis. She said her father said that there had been a lot of Indian drivers turning up looking for jobs with fake licences. She said he has also been offered bonuses if he hired Indian drivers. I asked who offered the bonuses the government or an employment agency? But she said she forgot to ask. Also i don't know if those who he was offered bonuses to hire were the ones with the fake licenses. (I'm not sure as my wife also forgot to ask.) Her father told them that the money isn't the issue. It's the fact that they "Can't fucking drive". I've heard talk about these fuckers being hired so employees can collect a bonus. But this is the first confirmation. Also he has reported those with the fake license's but has never heard back.
You might find its the employment agencies offering those 'bonuses'. you see, every time a labourhire/ employment agency signs somebody up, and get them work somewhere, they get a payment from the government. I've heard different amounts from different sources so cant really say how much it is, because I dont really know, but it is in the thousands from what I can work out. so the more workers they can put on the more they get. so for them its a cash cow that lines their pockets, even if the workers/ drivers they take on arent really capable / experienced enough for the roles they put them in. like everything else these days, the bottom line is all that matters, regardless of how they get it.
@@catey62 I know how employment agencies work. And how they make their money by getting people jobs. Which is 100% fair. I also know there was a program some yrs ago. Where the government would pay the company a "bonus" (which added up to about 6 weeks wages) if they hired someone who was classed as "long term unemployed". Which was also a good idea. But this was neither of those things. If an employer is looking for an employee. No agency is going to offer an employer a bonus for hiring someone if they don't have too. This was a case of an employer being offered a bonus if they hired a foreign worker instead of an Australian. This is a case of someone saying to an employer "hey hire this foreign driver instead of that Australian and you will get paid a "bonus"
Friend of mine a couple of years ago got his heavy ticket at Dandenong in Melbourne .And you walk in and a couple of hours later walk out fully qualified to drive a heavy vehicle, and just another point of interest the whole class other than my friend all had High Vis Turbins on their head. SAY NO MORE I REST MY CASE. Vic roads may as well just give them their ticket out of the Corn Flakes Packet,