Later, the daily settings calculation became much easier, thanks to a german radio operator in the Sahara, who messaged "Nothing to report" every single day. The exact same message
A man of such absolute genius. The father of modern computing, even still has a computing test named for him, and it shames us all the way he was treated, for just being who he was.
@@brian8507 Then it is a good thing no one is asking it of you. To plenty of people you are 'yucky' and the thought of being with you is disgusting---that is how attraction works. You either are or aren't attracted. some might find you good looking, while others will think you are hideous. doesn't mean you can't be who you are or love whomever is willing to love you back. Just because something isn't for you, doesn't mean everyone else has to fit your thoughts of how things should be. so long as no one is trying to force you into a situation/relationship you don't want why do you care what others are doing?
He did not only crack German codes, he also thought up Turing machines, which are the horror of all computer science students even nowadays. May he rest in peace.
@@TheWuschelMUC He built a machine based on a Polish machine, it didn't work as it should still taking weeks to decode messages. Gordon Welchman fixed it with his diagonal board modification this was the game changer which allowed the machine to decade messages in a matter of hours. Welchman should be held in equal esteem not just for this but his other work at Bletchley
@@Ильяленивый Uh... you know that he was BRITTISH, and not an American.The US has done some messed up things, but you can't blame us for SOMEONE ELSE'S mistakes.
This hand-over-mouth gesture by Keira Knightley/Joan Clarke covers the impact of the moment perfectly. Everyone thinks that this bunch of adrenalin-soaked people in this dark room may just have been witness to THE most important event to win and end this war. But noone dares to say it.
The Polish broke the code before giving the machine to the Brits. So this entire false narrative is only proof too many people are historically and very technologically ignorant today. Turing did nothing revolutionary. His only top accomplishment was doing the grunt work of decoding daily messages. That anyone can do.
Ye the movie simplified it to the extent that even a child could understand what was a VAST operation at Bletchley working on multiple different enemy codes, and a huge number of machines built for the intelligence program that collected all the Enigma decodes.
The next generation, Colossus, took it to the next level. Was an electronic (tube) computer that was designed and built by British engineer Tommy Flowers, working at the Post Office Research Station in Dollis Hill, London and was even faster and better.
@@TheGroundedAviator There's been some, I remember watching bill Tutte explain how he first started breaking into tummy by laying out the raw Y intercepts into squares, but not enough has been made. The documentary that ended with them all burning EVERYTHING one night at the end of Bletchley was good. Station X I think that one's called.
You are way out in so many things. The Enigma secret revealed to the public in the late 1970's - read 'Ultra - Beyond Top Secret!' 'Ultra' was Enigma traffic. What was kept secret for almost 50 years was that the US had not built or operated the worlds first electronic computer which they called EINIAC! They had the 50th 'birthday' party lined up, the Champagne on ice, the cake already when someone said to them 'Actually old boy, we beat you. We designed, built and operated the worlds first electronic computer and we called it Colossus!' It was designed and built in great secrecy to break the Lorenz Code - as used by Hitler and the OKW to communicate with the Generals at the front. My father was involved - and to this day I know very little as he took his knowledge to his grave. Oh and people involved at BP is closer to 50000, mostly but not exclusively women.
I was lucky enough to have met the great Hugh Alexander once in 1972 - he presented me with a chess prize at the Dragon school in Oxford - I was nine years old. At the time I could not understand why my parents were in such awe of him. When I was much older I read a couple of chess books he wrote on chess openings - on reading them I could feel his genius - to explain such a complex subject so simply and clearly showed me that Hugh Alexander had incredible clarity of thought:))
Thats a 3 dial. 3 dials started with 6 letter "code" not 5. The first 3 were in plain and the initial setting on the wheel. The second 3 were encoded through the first to produce the message key setting. What screwed the germans up was they used 6 letter words rather than 6 random or code letters. So an intercept would read HIT (clear) ZGN. However by guessing HIT was HITLER they could work out ZGN was in fact the result of running LER through the HIT dials. So the dials were set accordingly and the message decoded.
It’s possible some high ranking Germans suspected the Allies were deciphering their code but realised it would shorten a war they were inevitably going to lose and so kept quiet.
Actually, Germany thought after a while that their codes where intercepted and interpreted. And instead of getting a better code, they just continued to add wheels on the Enigma. Thanks to that most if not all intercepted messages were interpreted. Basically Germany due to laziness lost the war
@@andmos1001 Actually the armed forces that used the extra wheel were only broken much later. The others were broken and used sporadically as a the film actually conveys quite well when they discuss how to disseminate the breakthrough. Churchill was informed of a massive attack on Coventry that was planned by the germans in a departure fron them normally attacking London and it's dock and industry in Silvertown. He held back and allowed Coventry to be bombed as it would have given away that we had broken the German code. Thousands of allied lives were saved in the long run and the war was unarguably shortened due to his sacrifice of english lives. How much steel did he have to make that decision and condemn hundreds to save thousands. A great man indeed. I for one could not have even have to contemplate the turmoil that he must have gone through.
@@michaelsmith7425 In his 1974 book The Ultra Secret, Group Captain F. W. Winterbotham asserted that the British government had advance warning of the attack from Ultra; intercepted German radio messages encrypted with the Enigma cipher machine and decoded by British cryptanalysts at Bletchley Park. He further claimed that Winston Churchill ordered that no defensive measures be taken to protect Coventry, lest the Germans suspect their cipher had been broken. Winterbotham was a key figure for Ultra and supervised the "Special Liaison Officers" who delivered Ultra material to field commanders. Winterbotham's claim has been rejected by other Ultra participants and by historians. They state that while Churchill was indeed aware that a major bombing raid would take place, no one knew what the target would be.
Polish mathematicians Marian Rejewski, Henryk Zygalski and Jerzy Różycki broke the cipher of the German cipher machine enigma and then developed methods allowing regular reading of German ciphertexts, therefore, with the help of Polish cryptologists the British deciphered the Enigma code in time, this is the result of several facts
Well partly - they broke and recreated the first version of enigma before the war broke out. Second version introduced additional complications which were broken by British - based on mark I design and details given by Poles.
@@Tony2438Even Turing's mathematics only broke each signal once, as each signal had its own settings. It was the days settings that had to be broken, thereafter it was re-written back in to the original plain German text. Then people like my mother, would read the German text, and rewrite it in English.
@@Volcano-Man again look at the film clip of the devices it's called the Bombe was nothing to do with polish who crack the.one time it had to be cracked daily
For what? He was head of a team.of mathematicians who developed the mathematics which enabled the engineers to design the Bombe that obtained the settings on the Enigma traffic, which the Technicians built, and others then having found the settings, read the signal in to plain German, which was then translated in to English.
Lol wut? He was deemed abnormal and criminal because male homosexual activity was still criminalised in the 50s. (male only because Queen Victoria vetoed the original bill of legislation that criminalised homosexuality for both genders) The propensity for genius to exist in HIGHLY eccentric individuals was a well known factor centuries before Turing was an itch in his fathers pants.
Moral relativism is precisely why WWII had to be fought. Nobody wanted to judge German people after their defeat in WWI, even if they kept invading territory after territory, poor things, after all they had been through... You're attempting to be wise, and good, and impartial, but are aiming directly at foolery.
Is it just me or is there anyone else wondering if the German sending messages every day with the same goddamn beginning was secretly hoping someone in British intelligence was smart enough to break the fucking code?
It's a good movie, but horrendously inaccurate. The Poles were the first to reliably decode Enigma and passed this information to the British and French. They were then able to improve on the Polish methods and equipment so that messages could be decoded even faster than the Germans could. At the end of the war, the British were capturing messages and then transmitting these to the Americans using cables under the Atlantic Ocean so they could be decoded in the hundreds of machines set up in America.
This part is accurate enough. The Polish system of decrypting Enigma was based on how Germany communicated their messages: it starts with a three-letter day code that is communicated to all signal corps well in advance, but to avoid using the same day code in all messages the day code is used to encrypt a different three-letter message code. This encrypted message code was transmitted twice as a signal check, but this was the vulnerability that the Polish cipher bureau was using to decrypt Enigma. Turing and his team were brought in to decrypt Enigma without using this vulnerability, as it was anticipated that the Germans would fix this. True enough, months before the new decryption scheme, Germany stopped duplicating the message code in their transmissions.
It's a pity , the real story of breaking Enigma is far more dramatic .It is true that a German did use his girl friends name as a key, but only for a few times . But that was only a very small part of the story .How we lost Enigma key for 6 months and didn't tell the Americans . Nothing about capturing the ships and submarines that had the keys on board for the next few months . Nor the French and Polish involvement . Or how the Russians tried to blackmail Alan Turing . Why he chose to committed suicide. Why knitting needles became a key to opening the codes . How Telephone engineer Tommy Flowers used £ 5000 of his own money to build the first programable computer in the world.
not sure but they did went through great lengths to ensure the nazis didn’t realize enigma has been cracked. Making up fake spies and fake intelligence so nazis believed that the spies are among their own ranks. So it is plausible they couldn’t act on certain intelligence.
It Frost my ass, this man saved MILLIONS OF LIVES, Shorten the war Instead of a Shower of Medals and Awards, he was cut down with harsh words How people today owe this man everything and he asked for nothing, and got the Religious sickness poured upon him I feel shame for his executioners and those Religions that are sick with false gods, RELIGION IS A GRIFT, Send money so thy will not fear god
She had an _encrypted_ message from 06:00 that they had strong reason to believe would be a weather report, the question they asked the machine was effectively "what settings would produce this output if we assume the first six letters of the plain text message were WETTER"
The weather report they had first was one they already had decrypted, but the Germans were instructed to change their encryption EVERY day. Which meant that the British had to start over since yesterday’s progress was already outdated.
Enigma was broken in 1932 by Polish mathematicians: Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Zygalski. After Poland was attacked by Nazis and Soviets from both sides, they gave their Bomba (decrypting) machine and all the documents about code breaking to British and French. It’s a pity that they are not given the part of the credit for it at least. Alan Turing was a great mind but he and his team don’t deserve all the credit.
@@mzahra1 not diminishing what Alan Turning achieved. He was ultimately the father of the modern computer. We should also not denigrate the amazing work of the Poles in mathematically cracking Enigma, which made Alan Turing's work possible. AT was one of the greatest revolutionaries in human history.
Because he was gay, he was not distracted by a love interest and got the job done, if it wasn't for him we may still have been in the stone age...no, the post industrial revolution maybe.
The Enigma cose was captured in South Atlantic! U-boat failed to submerge as it saw Junkers plane approach. It was South Africa Air force! Fireda Missile that took out conning tower. U-boat was captured with machine and codes...
Marian Rejewski (1905 - 1980), Henryk Zygalski (1907 - 1978), and Jerzy Różycki (1909 - 1942) solved the German Enigma cipher machine and broke Enigma messages.
You missed the point then because they did use it to win the war. They had to use it in a way that did not inform the germans that enigma was compromised. That means always having an alternate explanation for the origin of the intel. You dont just react to an enemy tank column moving toward you for instance. You dispatch a seemingly random scouting unit to find it and then act.
That scene didn't play out that way in real life though. This group passed EVERYTHING up to command, and command made the decisions to act or not act. They had to find a way to simplify that explanation to the audience, but the way the movie portrays it is an act of treason. Lol
Not exactly they could only use it on selected occasions otherwise the German high command, especially the subs would know that Enigma had been broken.
Great scene, but really? “What if he only has to search through ones that produce words we already know will be in the message?” This is something you learn in the first week of Codebreaking 101. Use the bits you know to decipher the bits you don’t. Yes, I know they have to dumb it down for the audience, but that’s an insult to Turing’s genius.
It's dramatically simplified, with a mountain of drama added for seasoning. A more accurate take on the events would require a full on mini series to explain it all.
@@cashewnuttel9054 I haven't seen Bang Rajan so can't comment...I should really as my father trained Indian troups that fought during the Burma campaign during WW2. When Imade my comment it was about JFK!
This scene really dumbed down and over simplified the process. Unfortunately it is a necessary evil that must be adhered to so the audience can pretend they understand what is going on. My biggest criticism about this movie is that it was all about Turing and not the Ultra program. Absolutely no mention of Thomas Flowers and his "Colossus" computer and his and Turing's success in breaking the German Lorenz encryption machine. Enigma was child's play compared to Lorenz and Bletchley broke both of them.
U think enigma was 1 machine… u acc think that omg 😂😂it’s called the enigma CODE it’s a CODE ran by German communication machines of which u seem to think there’s only 1😂😂
Except Turing NEVER EVER got his hands anywhere near an Enigma Machine. He was head if a group of mathematicians who worked out the mathematical Sutton, that enable engineers to design the circuitry and technicians to build the prototype bombe. They tested it by using several lots of intercepted traffic that had been broken, and when the Bombe gave the same solution to the key, they knew it would work. All the Bombe did was find the key - settings, that enabled the message to be turned in to German plain text, and then a team of translators translated it in to English. Strangely for various reasons Turing was prohibited from accessing the machine. He was totally excluded from anything involving the Lorenz Code - used by the Nazi High Command. For which - the yanks really love this bit, we built Colossus - the worlds first electronic computer and beat EINIAC into operation. It was so secret it's existence etc; wasinly revealed just before the yanks were going to throw a party! Anyone like stale cake and flat Champagne.
So basically they broke Enigma because someone wasn't following protocol on the German side.......THIS IS WHY YOU FOLLOW PROTOCOL lol.
Funny how it was both sides of the coin.
Someone not following procedure is what gave him the idea for how to break their ultra guaranteed procedure
Search and find how the british located the Bishmark.
They did not brake enigma - polish scientists who work for Brits did it
@@cczarnyy They broke the simpler version of it earlier. It then had to be broken again and that's what the film is about
No, the girlfriend comment was his eureka moment. It made him realize that the weather report always used the same 3 words.
Later, the daily settings calculation became much easier, thanks to a german radio operator in the Sahara, who messaged "Nothing to report" every single day. The exact same message
A man of such absolute genius. The father of modern computing, even still has a computing test named for him, and it shames us all the way he was treated, for just being who he was.
Being that way is yucky tho
@@brian8507 Then it is a good thing no one is asking it of you.
To plenty of people you are 'yucky' and the thought of being with you is disgusting---that is how attraction works. You either are or aren't attracted. some might find you good looking, while others will think you are hideous.
doesn't mean you can't be who you are or love whomever is willing to love you back.
Just because something isn't for you, doesn't mean everyone else has to fit your thoughts of how things should be.
so long as no one is trying to force you into a situation/relationship you don't want why do you care what others are doing?
There is a reason the apple logo has a bite out of it....
I feel so so sad for the way he has been treated it is a shame for England 🏴 😢😢😢😢
@@gordonscott1329yeah, it's to avoid having the logo confused with a cherry.
RIP Alan Turing 🌹
Let's ignore that the Americans basically killed him themselves for being gay
He did not only crack German codes, he also thought up Turing machines, which are the horror of all computer science students even nowadays. May he rest in peace.
@@TheWuschelMUC He built a machine based on a Polish machine, it didn't work as it should still taking weeks to decode messages. Gordon Welchman fixed it with his diagonal board modification this was the game changer which allowed the machine to decade messages in a matter of hours. Welchman should be held in equal esteem not just for this but his other work at Bletchley
@@Ильяленивый Uh... you know that he was BRITTISH, and not an American.The US has done some messed up things, but you can't blame us for SOMEONE ELSE'S mistakes.
In the dust, actually. 😐
This hand-over-mouth gesture by Keira Knightley/Joan Clarke covers the impact of the moment perfectly. Everyone thinks that this bunch of adrenalin-soaked people in this dark room may just have been witness to THE most important event to win and end this war. But noone dares to say it.
It’s ridiculous. It’s basic code breaking obvious ways to crack codes.
@@alexbowman7582 Ah yes, very simple, using a mechanical computer to break a code of 8.53 quadrillion combinations lol.
The Polish broke the code before giving the machine to the Brits. So this entire false narrative is only proof too many people are historically and very technologically ignorant today. Turing did nothing revolutionary. His only top accomplishment was doing the grunt work of decoding daily messages. That anyone can do.
Many lives still sacrificed because they could never say that they cracked the codes.
Beautifully acted and directed.
But not true. Polish scienties has broken the enigma.
@@psdmaniac No they didn't. They gave us the codex.
Bletchley Park cracked it! Read some history.
1:41 “Alan! Alan! Alan!” Can anyone else hear the prairie dog yelling it?
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I feel 4:10 fits better :)
Why is she shouting like that
That's not Alan... that's Steve.
Great movie but an even greater real life achievement.
Ye the movie simplified it to the extent that even a child could understand what was a VAST operation at Bletchley working on multiple different enemy codes, and a huge number of machines built for the intelligence program that collected all the Enigma decodes.
And yet he was punished for being homosexual, chemically castratedd and committed suicide.
The next generation, Colossus, took it to the next level. Was an electronic (tube) computer that was designed and built by British engineer Tommy Flowers, working at the Post Office Research Station in Dollis Hill, London and was even faster and better.
Yes, but that was to break the Lorenz cypher broken by bill Tutte.
Still waiting for bill and Tommy's Hollywood movie 😏
@@MostlyPennyCat I'd do a 10 part miniseries based on all of them. More about the technology than personal life as well.
@@TheGroundedAviator
There's been some, I remember watching bill Tutte explain how he first started breaking into tummy by laying out the raw Y intercepts into squares, but not enough has been made.
The documentary that ended with them all burning EVERYTHING one night at the end of Bletchley was good. Station X I think that one's called.
@@MostlyPennyCat Cool. I'd like to see a modern drama series though.
It'll probably get too fictional though.
@@MostlyPennyCat And Gordon Welchman
This was one of my favorite movies!
I think around 10,000 people worked at Bletchley Park during the war, and it was kept a secret what they did for 30 years, just so typically British.
You are way out in so many things. The Enigma secret revealed to the public in the late 1970's - read 'Ultra - Beyond Top Secret!' 'Ultra' was Enigma traffic. What was kept secret for almost 50 years was that the US had not built or operated the worlds first electronic computer which they called EINIAC! They had the 50th 'birthday' party lined up, the Champagne on ice, the cake already when someone said to them 'Actually old boy, we beat you. We designed, built and operated the worlds first electronic computer and we called it Colossus!' It was designed and built in great secrecy to break the Lorenz Code - as used by Hitler and the OKW to communicate with the Generals at the front. My father was involved - and to this day I know very little as he took his knowledge to his grave. Oh and people involved at BP is closer to 50000, mostly but not exclusively women.
Fantastic, tragic, human. Great movie.
Brilliant minds
I was lucky enough to have met the great Hugh Alexander once in 1972 - he presented me with a chess prize at the Dragon school in Oxford - I was nine years old. At the time I could not understand why my parents were in such awe of him.
When I was much older I read a couple of chess books he wrote on chess openings - on reading them I could feel his genius - to explain such a complex subject so simply and clearly showed me that Hugh Alexander had incredible clarity of thought:))
Thats a 3 dial. 3 dials started with 6 letter "code" not 5.
The first 3 were in plain and the initial setting on the wheel. The second 3 were encoded through the first to produce the message key setting.
What screwed the germans up was they used 6 letter words rather than 6 random or code letters.
So an intercept would read HIT (clear) ZGN. However by guessing HIT was HITLER they could work out ZGN was in fact the result of running LER through the HIT dials.
So the dials were set accordingly and the message decoded.
Nerd
Not a nerd at all, that was helpful technical insight, thanks
@@MrListen2meplez Can be both :)
Crosswords are fun but Crypiquote is more like this. They never give that many letters. Heil
It’s possible some high ranking Germans suspected the Allies were deciphering their code but realised it would shorten a war they were inevitably going to lose and so kept quiet.
There is no doubt that everyone is trying to decipher everyone else's code, even among allies. Only evidence can convince people.
it's possible i will magically become a millionaire tomorrow
Actually, Germany thought after a while that their codes where intercepted and interpreted. And instead of getting a better code, they just continued to add wheels on the Enigma. Thanks to that most if not all intercepted messages were interpreted. Basically Germany due to laziness lost the war
@@andmos1001 Actually the armed forces that used the extra wheel were only broken much later. The others were broken and used sporadically as a the film actually conveys quite well when they discuss how to disseminate the breakthrough. Churchill was informed of a massive attack on Coventry that was planned by the germans in a departure fron them normally attacking London and it's dock and industry in Silvertown. He held back and allowed Coventry to be bombed as it would have given away that we had broken the German code. Thousands of allied lives were saved in the long run and the war was unarguably shortened due to his sacrifice of english lives. How much steel did he have to make that decision and condemn hundreds to save thousands. A great man indeed. I for one could not have even have to contemplate the turmoil that he must have gone through.
@@michaelsmith7425 In his 1974 book The Ultra Secret, Group Captain F. W. Winterbotham asserted that the British government had advance warning of the attack from Ultra; intercepted German radio messages encrypted with the Enigma cipher machine and decoded by British cryptanalysts at Bletchley Park. He further claimed that Winston Churchill ordered that no defensive measures be taken to protect Coventry, lest the Germans suspect their cipher had been broken. Winterbotham was a key figure for Ultra and supervised the "Special Liaison Officers" who delivered Ultra material to field commanders.
Winterbotham's claim has been rejected by other Ultra participants and by historians. They state that while Churchill was indeed aware that a major bombing raid would take place, no one knew what the target would be.
Polish mathematicians Marian Rejewski, Henryk Zygalski and Jerzy Różycki broke the cipher of the German cipher machine enigma and then developed methods allowing regular reading of German ciphertexts, therefore, with the help of Polish cryptologists the British deciphered the Enigma code in time, this is the result of several facts
Well partly - they broke and recreated the first version of enigma before the war broke out. Second version introduced additional complications which were broken by British - based on mark I design and details given by Poles.
The polish only cracked it once it had to be cracked every day what are you talking about
@@Tony2438Even Turing's mathematics only broke each signal once, as each signal had its own settings. It was the days settings that had to be broken, thereafter it was re-written back in to the original plain German text. Then people like my mother, would read the German text, and rewrite it in English.
@@Volcano-Man i know yhat what are you talking about it showing how they were able to do it in the clip nothing to do with the polish
@@Volcano-Man again look at the film clip of the devices it's called the Bombe was nothing to do with polish who crack the.one time it had to be cracked daily
Rest in peace ingenious Alan Turing. 😢😮😮😮😢😢❤❤❤❤❤❤.May God rest you with his angels. Thank you Alan Turing.😢😢😢😢😢❤❤❤❤❤
For what? He was head of a team.of mathematicians who developed the mathematics which enabled the engineers to design the Bombe that obtained the settings on the Enigma traffic, which the Technicians built, and others then having found the settings, read the signal in to plain German, which was then translated in to English.
Imagine if they had acquired an enigma machine with a squeaky wheel.
German engineering :)
Those people shortened the war by two years.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
Helluva great movie..
The machine was actually called Victory and had only one task.
Surely one would have looked at expected words at the very beginning of trying to break the code………?
Now we have AI that passes Turing test
Maybe they should have at least gone back and brought Helen a pint or a sloe gin!
Loved this movieeee❤
And because his brain interprets signals differently than "normal" people, he was deemed abnormal, even evil. Who is to judge who is right?
Lol wut?
He was deemed abnormal and criminal because male homosexual activity was still criminalised in the 50s.
(male only because Queen Victoria vetoed the original bill of legislation that criminalised homosexuality for both genders)
The propensity for genius to exist in HIGHLY eccentric individuals was a well known factor centuries before Turing was an itch in his fathers pants.
Me.
Moral relativism is precisely why WWII had to be fought. Nobody wanted to judge German people after their defeat in WWI, even if they kept invading territory after territory, poor things, after all they had been through... You're attempting to be wise, and good, and impartial, but are aiming directly at foolery.
Good job Polish mathematician
And engineer.
Some Polish person also created the original design upon which Turing's BOMBE mechanical computer was based.
@@mnomadvfx And Gordon Welchman got Turing's machine to work with his Diagonal Board modification. This is why it's called the Turing Welchman Bombe.
lol this is the basis of how cheatengine works
Christopher was his first love.
CILLY spelt CIILY. Great subtitles.
Relax.
this guy created the computer won the war then got killed by his own country
Not sure if they would be "talking shop" so freely with each other anywhere, let alone in a club or pub. Ridiculous.
What a ...moment...this had to be
got to give it to Cumberpatch - he did some great acting in the movie.
Bendadick Cuminmysnatch is my favourite actor
This is so unrealistic. No way is a chess player that smooth
Is it just me or is there anyone else wondering if the German sending messages every day with the same goddamn beginning was secretly hoping someone in British intelligence was smart enough to break the fucking code?
signing their own death warrants at sea? yes okee buddy
Did you really need to say that. Would you swap your mother's name and use it in vain? Spineless little man.
I often wondered the same thing myself
Germans are highly intelligent, but Britons are highly cunning.
@@kaycey7361Einstein once said 'There is far to much intelligence in the world, and not enough wisdom'
Sadly the movie was mostly fiction, but I suppose we were lucky they didn't change the Brits to Yanks.
they did that in saving private ryan, the brits drove most of the D Day landing craft.
In Hollywood the world is always saved by Americans, we all know that...
Modern mythology has Turing responsible for everything it seems
All this time I thought The British were made of tougher stuff than to complain insufferably. It's a fucking movie!
AF is low on water
It's a good movie, but horrendously inaccurate. The Poles were the first to reliably decode Enigma and passed this information to the British and French. They were then able to improve on the Polish methods and equipment so that messages could be decoded even faster than the Germans could. At the end of the war, the British were capturing messages and then transmitting these to the Americans using cables under the Atlantic Ocean so they could be decoded in the hundreds of machines set up in America.
Not quite. The polls had this figured out as early as 1932. However the Germans changed the enigma which prompted Turing to find a solution
This part is accurate enough. The Polish system of decrypting Enigma was based on how Germany communicated their messages: it starts with a three-letter day code that is communicated to all signal corps well in advance, but to avoid using the same day code in all messages the day code is used to encrypt a different three-letter message code. This encrypted message code was transmitted twice as a signal check, but this was the vulnerability that the Polish cipher bureau was using to decrypt Enigma.
Turing and his team were brought in to decrypt Enigma without using this vulnerability, as it was anticipated that the Germans would fix this. True enough, months before the new decryption scheme, Germany stopped duplicating the message code in their transmissions.
What's with the gigantic and incorrect subtitles?
That's why you also see number 87 alongside with the channel name
A.I. still can’t get subtitles right? 🤦♂️
A co-worker of *sons*?
C-I-I-L-Y
It's a pity , the real story of breaking Enigma is far more dramatic .It is true that a German did use his girl friends name as a key, but only for a few times . But that was only a very small part of the story .How we lost Enigma key for 6 months and didn't tell the Americans . Nothing about capturing the ships and submarines that had the keys on board for the next few months . Nor the French and Polish involvement . Or how the Russians tried to blackmail Alan Turing . Why he chose to committed suicide. Why knitting needles became a key to opening the codes . How Telephone engineer Tommy Flowers used £ 5000 of his own money to build the first programable computer in the world.
Was that the real scene where they had precise details but couldnt act? as it would tip their hand ? That ship? all died ?
not sure but they did went through great lengths to ensure the nazis didn’t realize enigma has been cracked. Making up fake spies and fake intelligence so nazis believed that the spies are among their own ranks. So it is plausible they couldn’t act on certain intelligence.
Subtitles are off. It is CILLY not CIILY
It Frost my ass, this man saved MILLIONS OF LIVES, Shorten the war
Instead of a Shower of Medals and Awards, he was cut down with harsh words
How people today owe this man everything and he asked for nothing, and got the Religious sickness poured upon him
I feel shame for his executioners and those Religions that are sick with false gods, RELIGION IS A GRIFT, Send money so thy will not fear god
howto was handed to them by the Poles. You are welcome. Take all the credit.
There is a statue of Marian Rejewski in Bletchley Park and a memorial to the Polish cryptographers.
@@kevanwillis4571 so nice, dozens of people will know about it. Never mind the movies and articles then
WHY THE HARD CODED SUBTITTIES?
some of us are DEAF.
@@gordonx145WHAT?
How did she have an already decrypted weather report?
She had an _encrypted_ message from 06:00 that they had strong reason to believe would be a weather report, the question they asked the machine was effectively "what settings would produce this output if we assume the first six letters of the plain text message were WETTER"
decryption was possible, but took way too long to be useful on the battlefield. Hence they build the machine to speed it up.
The weather report they had first was one they already had decrypted, but the Germans were instructed to change their encryption EVERY day. Which meant that the British had to start over since yesterday’s progress was already outdated.
Ok doctor strange your better in the marvel movies
Enigma was broken in 1932 by Polish mathematicians: Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Zygalski. After Poland was attacked by Nazis and Soviets from both sides, they gave their Bomba (decrypting) machine and all the documents about code breaking to British and French. It’s a pity that they are not given the part of the credit for it at least. Alan Turing was a great mind but he and his team don’t deserve all the credit.
No they didn’t. That is wrong.
Turing didn’t break Enigma. He managed to develop the process to do so in a sufficiently timely manner.
With 8.53 quadrillion combinations, sure, you could do in manually, and have the answer a few centuries later. Might be a little late lol.
Well he built the British version of the Polish machine but it took Gordon Welchman to get it work properly
@@mzahra1 not diminishing what Alan Turning achieved. He was ultimately the father of the modern computer. We should also not denigrate the amazing work of the Poles in mathematically cracking Enigma, which made Alan Turing's work possible. AT was one of the greatest revolutionaries in human history.
It’s a movie
Which was the key thing needed to break enigma. Therefore he broke enigma
Because he was gay, he was not distracted by a love interest and got the job done, if it wasn't for him we may still have been in the stone age...no, the post industrial revolution maybe.
You exaggerate a tad. Others did equally as much. I am trying to think why he was more important in this day and age? Hang on......
The Enigma cose was captured in South Atlantic! U-boat failed to submerge as it saw Junkers plane approach. It was South Africa Air force! Fireda Missile that took out conning tower. U-boat was captured with machine and codes...
Noooo, Polish genius team broke enigma code!!
It's a pity they didn't tell anybody else then.
It would have saved the British all this trouble.
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Good story!
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If you say so.
@@chris-kh5lw
I'm not British.
Try again 🤣.
They broke mark I, mark ii was the british
Marian Rejewski (1905 - 1980), Henryk Zygalski (1907 - 1978), and Jerzy Różycki (1909 - 1942) solved the German Enigma cipher machine and broke Enigma messages.
Did they get a Nobel prize?
They broke mark I, mark II was used during the war which was broken by British
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And then they can't use it to win the war
You missed the point then because they did use it to win the war. They had to use it in a way that did not inform the germans that enigma was compromised. That means always having an alternate explanation for the origin of the intel. You dont just react to an enemy tank column moving toward you for instance. You dispatch a seemingly random scouting unit to find it and then act.
@@klioseth4336 I know this, you know what I meant
That scene didn't play out that way in real life though. This group passed EVERYTHING up to command, and command made the decisions to act or not act.
They had to find a way to simplify that explanation to the audience, but the way the movie portrays it is an act of treason. Lol
This is why AI doing subtitles, won’t win a war (obvs, unless it’s SKYNET).
C-I-I-L-Y 🤦♂️
Not exactly they could only use it on selected occasions otherwise the German high command, especially the subs would know that Enigma had been broken.
😅interesting
Great scene, but really? “What if he only has to search through ones that produce words we already know will be in the message?” This is something you learn in the first week of Codebreaking 101. Use the bits you know to decipher the bits you don’t.
Yes, I know they have to dumb it down for the audience, but that’s an insult to Turing’s genius.
Can't turn off subtitles.
Click don't recommend channel.
some of us are deaf . you should try it some time and maybe realise how great subtitles are.
This sadly isn't done that well... One if our time's greatest war achievement but not great Cinema.
You're right........about as accurate as Oliver Stone's take on American history!
It's dramatically simplified, with a mountain of drama added for seasoning.
A more accurate take on the events would require a full on mini series to explain it all.
It ignored those other heroes of Bletchley Park Gordon Welchman especially
@@rogerwebb7501 What about the history of Myanmar?
@@cashewnuttel9054 I haven't seen Bang Rajan so can't comment...I should really as my father trained Indian troups that fought during the Burma campaign during WW2. When Imade my comment it was about JFK!
I'll take "It never happened" for $500 , Alex
This scene really dumbed down and over simplified the process. Unfortunately it is a necessary evil that must be adhered to so the audience can pretend they understand what is going on.
My biggest criticism about this movie is that it was all about Turing and not the Ultra program. Absolutely no mention of Thomas Flowers and his "Colossus" computer and his and Turing's success in breaking the German Lorenz encryption machine. Enigma was child's play compared to Lorenz and Bletchley broke both of them.
Have you seen Jeremy Clarksons excellent documentary about computers?
Goes into great detail about Flowers ,one of humanity's great unsung hero .
Bullshit film really.
You’re insufferable
@@johnreynolds6369 It was just a propaganda film supporting the gay community when you break it down.
I love how British just claimed everything in ww2....they won the war they broke enigma....just pure bullshit
This is bullshit. They got an enigma machine from a U Boat that was sinking. This entire movie is bullshit.
It’s not about having enigma but finding the initial configuration of it that was changed DAILY. If you watched or read you would know it
U think enigma was 1 machine… u acc think that omg 😂😂it’s called the enigma CODE it’s a CODE ran by German communication machines of which u seem to think there’s only 1😂😂
Except Turing NEVER EVER got his hands anywhere near an Enigma Machine. He was head if a group of mathematicians who worked out the mathematical Sutton, that enable engineers to design the circuitry and technicians to build the prototype bombe. They tested it by using several lots of intercepted traffic that had been broken, and when the Bombe gave the same solution to the key, they knew it would work.
All the Bombe did was find the key - settings, that enabled the message to be turned in to German plain text, and then a team of translators translated it in to English.
Strangely for various reasons Turing was prohibited from accessing the machine. He was totally excluded from anything involving the Lorenz Code - used by the Nazi High Command. For which - the yanks really love this bit, we built Colossus - the worlds first electronic computer and beat EINIAC into operation. It was so secret it's existence etc; wasinly revealed just before the yanks were going to throw a party! Anyone like stale cake and flat Champagne.
They used one in the film clip 😅
@Volcano-Man uou do not understand it was the Bombe which allowed the codes to be able to crack the code daily thats the point of the film clip
Poland break enigma not british not american like the most of fake movies....