@Sahaj Katharine Amen to that. Turing saved countless lives, any amount of funds, an unquantifiable cost; and his own country, nay, the world, chose to repay him in a manner related only to whom he loved. So very wrong.
One of the world's intelligent man who saved millions - extremely unhappy how he was treated in the end - RIP Genius, what work could he achieved if he lived longer
Whatever benefits due to him(Turing),let any surviving immediate family members (sisters,brothers,2nd generation relatives,etc) received the blessings from the British government...Lesson from the Bible: As an act of GRATITDE,the newly proclaimed king of Israel,king David,seek for any immediate sons/daughters of king Saul- who had just died in battle together with his 3.sons who were high ranking officers in the Israeli army...Such surviving immediate family of king Saul received great favor/treatment from king David during his reign as king of Israel...Wake up British Government!!.. INGRATITUDE sin was one of the MOST HATED SIN in the eyes of Abrahamic God...Almost every square feet of Egypt were destroyed due to the 10.series of horrible plagues- which God allowed to fall into Egypt...Their sin?... INGRATITUDE: They forget what Joseph did around 400yrs before- how the nation of Egypt scape a 7yrs of horrible famine- due to prophetic warning from God 7.yrs before the famine started...God used Joseph as the interpreter of pharaohs dream- about the meaning of 7.fat cows and of 7.very thin cows....and the 7.ear laden corn stalk & the 7.ear empty dried corn stalk....King Saul was also guilty of the sin of INGRATITUDE... due to the courage of shepherd boy David, Goliath the 10 feet high slanderer of Israel for 40 days span- his mouth was finally silence at the end of 40 days period- stone from David slingshot sunk on his forehead,he fell to the ground facing down... David immediately rushed toward him and used the personal sword of Goliath in cutting Goliath neck!!...The next scene of king Saul life,he was trying to kill David by means of spear- so David decided to leave the palace comfort and scape as fugitive in the wilderness...King Saul life end was unglorious, he committed suicide- rather than be caught alive by the rushing enemies...On same day,his 3.sons,all army officers,died also in the hand of their attacker....
By fighting Germany Britain signed its own death (and its final downfall as a former super power!). The future of England is a Arabic and black future in ruins. Wait and see
There was a thought project in my college days that claimed he may have advanced computer science even artificial intelligence by decades if he would have lived in a more progressive world
The fact that they waited until 2013 to grant him a posthumous pardon is even more disgraceful! The mind truly boggles when you think what this man did for the world never mind Britain!
By the way, the Soviets would not have attacked Poland in such a situation in which the Germans were defeated. If the French and British had massively attacked in the West, as agreed with Poland, Soviets would not have dared to raid Poland with the weak Red Army. Because Soviets did not want a war against the British and French, who might have been supported by the Americans. The Soviets also knew that, as in the war of 1919-21, the Poles would fight to the limit. So the Soviets waited and watched the reaction of the British and French. Only when it was obvious that they would betray Poland did Soviets raid Poland. Soviets knew they were inferior because the red army was in a miserable condition. The fact that the Red Army was in a bad state was also shown by the fight against Polish troops. The Soviets even had problems with the Polish Border Protection Corps (KOP) in 1939! For example in the Battle of Szack a 4,000 men KOP troop without air support and without tanks and only 16 piece of artillery defeated 13 000 Soviets supported by 15 tanks and 15 piece of artillery. All of the Soviet tanks involved were destroyed or captured in the battle! The Soviet units were taken by surprise and after a short hand-to-hand fight the Soviet forces were routed. Only a small part of the motorized infantry managed to retreat, but had to leave behind all their trucks, artillery and 9 T-26 tanks. The Poles also captured the staff headquarters. So with this weak red army the Soviets would not have dared to attack Poland in a situation while the Germans lost the war. Incidentally, Poles have paid! After the war, a bill covering the equipment and operating costs of the Polish army in Great Britain, was paid from the Polish gold reserves deposited in Canada. At the same time the Germans were fed by the British occupying forces, the British have that financed! In the same time there was hunger in Poland under the Soviet occupation! My parents and their relatives hungered after the war in Poland! Without the betrayals my parents would also not have had to go hungry. By the way, a few years later the Germans were forgiven a large part of their debts, also through the initiative of the British.
@@GreatPolishWingedHussars My mother married a Polish gentleman, who gave a different view. He was there he joined the Free Polish Army. Joined the Parachute Regiment , was dropped at Arnhem. He actually became a British citizen and stayed after the war. He only had good to say about Britain, and the British people. You know that citizens of any Country cannot be responsible for all its Politicians, and the decisions they make. Churchill was lucky, he had the BRITISH people behind him. And back up of the people of the what became the Commonwealth.
@@iriscollins7583 YES, I also know this argument from the Germans. They also say they were innocent. The government was to blame. This is nonsense. Nations are responsible for their governments and the actions of those governments. Nor am I aware of any protest demonstrations of the British against the betrayal of the British government. On the other hand, in Poland there were demonstrations of gratitude to the British when the German raided Poland and the British declared war on Germany. On the tarsparents was written e.g. Long live England. The Poles didn't know that the British and French declaration of war 1939 against Germany served only for saving face. The British and the French did not intend to keep to the contractual agreements and to attack massively in the west. They wanted to sacrifice Poland for peace with the Germans! This was the continuation of British and French stupid appeasement politics of the 30s! The inaction of the French and British in the West was the message to Germany: Be satisfied with Poland. Do not attack us behind the Maginot Line. We do not attack Germany either! By the way, you say it yourself. Churchill had the BRITISH people behind him. Yes, it was no different with the traitor Neville Chamberlain when he betrayed Poland in 1939. He acted on behalf of the British people! Churchill was a traitor too! As for your "Polish gentleman", it's a good thing that this fool didn't come back to Poland! The less fools there are in Poland, the better! But most of the Polish soldiers of Polish Armed Forces in the West were not fools because they were aware of the betrayal. But they fought anyway out of desperation continued on the side of the traitors. Because they hoped for the support by the Americans. But that was an illusion. Polish-Americans have far too little influence in the United States. For the majority of Americans Poland and all of Eastern Europe were completely irrelevant. Today the British would act no differently! But fortunately Poland will not need British support as an ally, because Russia is not a threat to Poland. This danger is fueled only by Western propaganda. In any case, the British would act exactly as they did in 1939. Because one is not a good ally for people wich one despise. The arrogance is no different than towards the Irish either! In Britain, Polish flags have already been trampled on and a Polish flag has also been burned! A Pole was also murdered! Many of the Poles who made the mistake of emigrating to Britain have returned. Good for them! Most don't say good things about the British! But fortunately Poland will not need British assistance, because Russia is not a threat to Poland. This danger is fueled only by Western propaganda. But I wish the British all the best with their non-European migrants. They apparently like them better than the European Poles. They also integrate better than Poles. But I wish the British a happy future with their non-European migrants. The British apparently like them better than the European Poles. They also integrate better than Poles.They also have a high birth rate and more are coming. the British can be happy about that! Isn't 'Muhammad' now the most popular boys' name in the UK?
So sad that we can't treat people as equal no matter what their private lives are. We should be proud to have such an individual who contributed so much. All people are worthy of their dignity and respected for their contributions
Sadly in 2022 there are still too many people who would jail another Turing, in the USA, UK, Canada - educated, modern people. It’s deplorable that cultures stuck in the Middle Ages consider how a person is born to be a crime, but even more so in our educated society.
@@kathypiazza4567 at times it feels like we're going backwards. The hope now comes from how united people have become with this war. If we can do that on a global scale, we should be able to move the needle in a positive direction. Let's not despair, ever, but keep our eye on the goal of a better world. This war is showing us how and providing that we can
Can you imagine if people just kept their nose out of his private life how many things this man might have discovered, invented or the problems he might have solved.
It would have been best. Sadly, back then people felt entitled to regulate one's personal life as much as public life. I figure adults are entitled totheir own private lives as long as they harm no one.
Male homosexual was a criminal offence until the 1970's. The establishment was evidently full of them and when war broke out 'blind eyes' were turned on. What mattered was their intellect. When the war ended the establishment decided to reintroduce its attitude of intolerance. Sadly Turing was not the only one who committed suicide.
@@janicebrowningaquino792 This is what happens when religion albeit in a very subtle way, governs the way people think. I have a relative who is homosexual - it was a shock, but I have accepted it. Where I live we have neighbours who are openly homosexual. Live and let live.
@@harrietharlow9929 Sadly here in the US our "christian" nationalists are on the march to remove the equality of those not heterosexual. England matches these horrors when it comes to transgenered persons. We still haven't learned.
I read the book that covered Turing and the brilliant scientists, engineers, physicists, and mathematicians that made the first computer and what it took to run the calculations to win the war. Dense. Really dense. I never felt so insignificant in my life. This guy was incredible.
@@thoughts4872a penny for your thoughts. how would you like a high dose of estrogen shrink your nuts? So that's the thanks Allen got from a dumb dumb Queen. I wonder would you say the same thing about Nikola Tesla. These guys both unmarried with valuable time on their hands to explore their wildest dreams thinking in the abstract outside the box. In turn for the efforts had improved on other scientists experiments suffering at all these mysteries and coming up with ways that's true of humanity in the war effort and the feel of electricity and computers they're probably both be the 4Runners of the computer
The first ever computer was made by ancient Greeks en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism There is some documentaries on TH-cam I advise you to watch any and then tell me how insignificant you felt.
Actually, in 1941, John Vincent Atanasoff, a professor of physics and mathematics at Iowa State University, and his graduate student, Clifford Berry, design/build the first digital electronic computer in the U.S., called the Atanasoff-Berry Computer (ABC). This marks the first time a computer is able to store information on its main memory, and is capable of performing one operation every 15 seconds. This came from a grant proposal he submitted in 1937 to build the first electric-only computer, without using gears, cams, belts or shafts.
It is perhaps worth mentioning that the Polish intelligence developed a cryptographic machine called "Bomba" (which is why Turing called his machine "bombe") in 1938 already, under the lead of Rejewski, a mathematician. Rejewski worked on Enigma since 1933, and solved earlier Enigma versions with simpler machines, for years. At that time, Poland was leading in cryptography. Eventually, due to the difficult political situation, Rejewski and the Polish government decided to share their research with the British in July 1939. Turing met with the Polish codebreakers in July 1939 for the first time. The brilliance of Turing's improvement was his general purpose and an electro-mechanical solution to that cipher machine, but his work was based on the shoulders of those Polish mathematicians, of course, who not just supplied the British with a few Enigma machines but their research and functional "bomba" of their own designs. Unsure why this important detail is frequently left out, not only in Hollywood; but cryptography computer science students usually know about this.
Until recently I was teaching a class on numerical computing at a prestigious American university. One of the topics involved the basics of Turing machines. I always made it a point to tell students that Alan Turing not only saved the lives of many millions (perhaps hundreds of millions if the Germans had won the war in his absence), but that he was homosexual and was driven to suicide by the British government because of his sexuality. The true dimension of this atrocity never failed to grip the minds of my students (who were blissfully unaware of the fact), and pall of silence would drop in the lecture hall. I would then break the silence by telling students the Queen had recently "pardoned" him for his crime, adding a degrading insult to his injury.
What an exciting history, and how sad its final is. The brilliant mind was bulled and killed by unknown nonentities. I am a Russian, and I am so grateful to Alan Turing for his contribution in the Allies’ victory in 1945.
So sad but grateful that at least now Turings’ contributions r recognized and hopefully we have learned something about ourselves that will help us better appreciate each other’s differences better and follow Jesus teachings to love one another!
This story teaches us that A: No good deed goes unpunished. ...and that B: Those most responsible for the success of technical projects are not the ones who reap the rewards.
Bletchley was full of top minds in related disciplines, but Turing was at the top of the field. While Bill Tutte led the team who amazingly figured out how the Lorenz machine was constructed and Tommy Flowers was primarily responsible for building Colossus, that only gave them the possible cipher keys (wheel settings) that were being used. Alan Turing saw how to apply statistical methods and other mathematic logic to use Colossus efficiently and actually allow the ciphers to be read. Alan Turing was completely responsible for creating the Bombes, with one significant improvement suggested by Welchman. Turing created the methods applied to decrease the Bombe run time necessary to find the wheel and plug board settings for Enigma. Neither one of the machines spit out the decoded message. They just gave them the possible settings that met criteria Turing established. It still took a tremendous amount of human work to choose the appropriate settings and to correctly decode and read the messages and interpret what they meant. He was obviously the intellectual leader of Bletchley since he was the one sent to the US when Britain began collaborating with the US on Enigma and other decipherments. Who knows what Turing could have accomplished after the war had he been allowed to continue his work in developing computers and in his other theoretical work in math and science rather than being hounded and killed by a homophobic society. What a crime to destroy such a brilliant mind and gentle soul. I am an avid Turing fan, if you could not tell.
I find it wonderous, here, in 2022, a single line gets more "Like" (lickybums) than your whole mf paragraph. Wonderful, well said... and all that. I just wish more folk bothered to read the comments, before watching the freakin' FREE film / Documentary and then deciding to click a thumb :)
An Uncle of mine served as an Army Signal Corps Officer and he landed with the U. S. Forces at Normandy. I wish that I had known more about Turing while my Uncle was alive so I could have asked him what he knew, if anything, about Turing's work during that time and how it might have affected his own experience during the invasion. Like my Dad, a Pearl Harbor Survivor who served throughout the Pacific after that, my Uncle rarely spoke about the war. I am grateful for documentaries like this one for filling in for me what so many in the "Greatest Generation" could never speak about. One thing my Dad and my Uncle did say, however, will always be part of my life: "Never Forget Us." I won't.
Thank you for posting this. We have similar upbringing. I was in my late teens before I ever heard my father relate a war incident to me. Seems to me, they were simply trying to shield us from the ugliness. Letting us just be kids and not worry about such things. Was a different world back then. All the best to you and yours.
@@txtom True enough, but maybe they were also trying to shield themselves from horrific memories. When my brother and I were in Vietnam my Dad - who was a Navy Corpsman attached to the Fleet Marines after surviving Pearl Harbor - began to have nightmares about opening body bags and seeing one of us in it. We didn't find out about this until we were both safe at home. Later on my Dad, my brother, and I were interviewed by Michael Takiff for his book - Brave Men, Gentle Heroes - that compared and contrasted the experiences of WWII fathers and Vietnam War sons. The interviews were both traumatic but also cathartic for all of us. www.amazon.com/Brave-Men-Gentle-Heroes-American/dp/0060935774
most of the men involved never spoke of war after returning home, my father was one of them and i had so many questions.....sorry Alan from those of us who have lived lives as free people thanks to all the heros
I see that lighting patch (Schofield Barracks) 👀…my parents were both deployed in the later wars (OIF) and such matters, I was in elementary school. They too never spoke of things that happened. It was on the news sometimes but you just never knew. My mother had a breakdown one day after something happened and I didn’t realize until then that something in her was very broken. She told me something about “children our age” wasn’t until I was older when she explained that children were used in war as well and it kinda messed her up
My Dad was on the Ranger , his brother was on the Yorktown . Dad came home and my only Uncle did not , never found to this day . I never forget and I know that freedom isn't free , someone paid with injuries , mental breakdown , torture or death ...
Wow, it’s amazing how poorly one’s own government treated this hero. He obviously saved countless thousands of lives, yet was unable to live his the way he desired too. What a shame smh😕
@@dinerouk Yes you're right. As I child I couldn't understand how loving someone was seen as a crime, yet went to church and worshipped a man who told us to love everyone?
You have only to look back at the British Govt's record over the last three hundred years to see how appalling they treated Military Service Personnel - be they armed forces or civilian, NiceRage...& always, it is glossed over....
None of the 10,000 people who worked at Bletchley spoke a word about the work they did there. The very existence of the place was a state secret well into the 1980s. Quite remarkable.
Well, Frederick Winterbotham did write the book "The Ultra Secret" in 1974, but I take your point... While the book has many errors and inconsistencies it is well worth reading as it was the first widely distributed information about the allies cryptological activities in WWII.
Yes, but of course, the Brits can't help but to miss their chance at not being stuffy, self-serving arrogant dolts - after having exhausted all other options.
@Ride TheCurve Hang on you cretin, you realise that the USA only finally decriminalised sodomy laws a mere 19 years ago? You also realise there are developed and developing countries where homosexuality is a punishable offence to this day? 'The Brits' - What an idiotic term of generalisation regarding people you zero idea about. Keep looking for that light switch up there. P.s. for context the 'cretin' in question has since deleted his anti-anglo comment.
It's also a shame that most people nowadays have no idea how his ideas has impacted our daily lives, the way we communicate, the way we do business and the way we work.
It's because idiots can't understand Genius, so they mock them instead. Even Tesla was a "wacko" that was in love with a pigeon, even though pigeons were often used to communicate with other humans.
And, as comments here show, the cruelty that Turing suffered, including chemical castration, was what English law provided for all homosexuals at that time, and this was shameful. So another very significant "good thing" is that, through Turing's fame, he forced the UK to be aware of, and feel shame for, this legally-enforced past cruelty to homosexuals. Even Oscar Wilde didn't manage that. It led to the premature death of both.
Homophobes(hidden homosexuals) should be sent back in time with an army of homophobes, to tell Alexander the Great to stop liking boys. Hahah, imagine cowardly, worthless homophobes trying to form an army to fight Alexander!!! lol
Nothing much has changed, the hate, bigotry, and the religious Christian right, would like to have the right to destroy, injure or kill homosexuals legally, to imprison and torture this vulnerable segment of society as their personal scapegoat! This is likely to happen if the Republicans form an Autocracy!
Turing stands out as one of the greatest men in UK history. A real hero of the free world. He was rewarded by being tormented, tortured to death by his own country.
Alan Turing played a crucial part in securing the Allied victory during World War II. His successful decoding of the Enigma code at Bletchley Park was a game-changer that significantly impacted the outcome of the war. Despite not receiving adequate recognition during his lifetime, Turing's groundbreaking work has become legendary in the field of computer science. His innovative ideas and techniques have left an indelible mark on the field and continue to inspire and shape it to this day.
A Brilliant Sensitive Man amongst men. What a tragic Life this young man had, truly a Genius but tortured by his hidden passion for something which at his time was forbidden, how times have changed. We can only be grateful to this Man for Everything that he accomplished and sacrificed. Thank You Sir.
It was amazing how the people who worked at Bletchley Park were so quite about what they did, they saved countless numbers of lives and did it all in secrecy.
They would have been charged under the secrecy laws, which carried a death sentence. Also, many believed that it was patriotic to keep these methods secret until technology had surpassed these code breaking computers.
@@braziliandollarxstream122 he didn't want to go to jail because he wanted to continue doing his work. His work was his whole life. Unfortunately the chemical castration caused so many feminizing side effects and depressed him to such an extent that he eventually killed himself
@@gunjan2323 I can agree with that. I like that theory. Speaking with other people about this i also heard something along the lines of “With his homosexual charges prison would have been a dangerous place for him so he chose castration” but yeah I see your point
Interesting but misleading in a typical British way: the enigma code was broken several years before WWII by Polish mathematicians in addition to having copies the enigma machine itself. What Turing did was to device a machine to break an enigma message faster by orders of magnitude but this was based on the Polish original work.
They keep forgetting to add this small detail to most british documents about Enigma. And they call themselfs historian. Rejewski, Różycki and Zygalski broke the code in 1932. Thank you for keeping it real.
Your post is misleading as well. It reads as if the Pole's breaking of the code continued to work during the war which it did not due to changes made by the Germans. The work at Bletchley Park enabled the more complex iterations of enigma to be cracked and then to do so in a timely manner.
@@CB-fz3li your post is misleading as well. It reads as if the Pole's breaking code didn't continue to work. It did in some extension, and we read some messages but yes, not all. Mostly due to lack of funding and money on polish side. Check cryptological bomb by Rejewski or Zygalski sheets. Poles meet with Bletchley Park people in 1939 and gave them all the info they needed to continue the work.
Such a genius of man that gave so much to the world yet he was treated in the cruelest of ways. Imagine how different the world could of been today without him
Absolutely outrageous, the way he was treated… that the £50 note shows his face is a kind of recovery from that horrendous experience he had to love with…
This is the best presentation of Turing I have ever encountered, and that's a lot, including seeing _Breaking the Code_ in the West End. The minimalist animations are particularly effective.
Its tragic on so many levels, but the worst betrayal was that of his colleagues, those senior to him and those who simply didn’t understand the brilliance of the man and his ideas. And what is even more worrying is that this assuredly continues today.
Reminds me of the WW1 observation re the bravery of troops of that time: ‘Lions led by donkeys.’ Well, Turing was a lion all right. And suffered for it.
I am utterly amaized by his Brilliance. I knew of him, but when I saw the movie and how he was discarded by the govt. Broke my heart, his contribution meant nothing to them. Brilliant man, along with Ho Chi Minh both men are my hero's.
@@dawood121derful He fought two imperialist powers to gain independence for Vietnam. If the American government had been wiser after WW2 they would have supported Ho Chi Minh instead of propping up the brutal colonial occupation of Vietnam by the French.
Incredibly I met his nephew here in Scotland recently whilst dropping stuff off at his new property which he is opening up for Ukrainian refugees. Very nice man and I enjoyed a brief conversation with him about Bletchley Park!
Alan Turing will be immortalized into the hearts of mathematicians who liked him had been ostracized simply because of having a different sexual orientation. He was a pure soul who save many during the war and inspired others to revolutionize information technology.
Bletchly Park was a marvel. Alan Turing was the biggest park. He was treated as an abominably. I am so glad his story is coming out to the public. Allied armies and navies in both Atlantic and Pacific were guided by the work he and his team did. Truly it ended the war sooner and saved many many lives.
Yes he was treated abysmally...sadly, the gvmnt then as they are now are simply 'weak, parasitic turncoats, and have never changed. He had more sense in his little toe than the lot...combined, with the exception of Churchill and a few others (look how they treated him after the war!). Despicable ppl, if it wasn't for these great individuals then these parasite's would have little to gnaw on!.(after they'd surrendered of course)
Once again I am reminded of the saying that 'it seems many who are rewarded by their contemporaries are later condemned by history, while those who are most often condemned by their contemporaries tend to be belatedly rewarded by history.'
An early version of the enigma machine with simpler code cylinders, yes. But also let's not forget that brave RN men went into a sinking U-boat and grabbed another (later) machine and the codebooks.
They often showcase the cracking of the enigma code an astonishing thing, but weren´t the construction of the machine even more remarkable? Turing is obviously an outstanding person
What machine are you referring to Tor? The Enigma machine itself or the Bombes which were used to crack the encrypted messages? Or were you referring to the entirely different Lorentz Cipher machines or the world's first electronic computer which was built to crack that cipher?
How many more Alan Turing's are in the history of mankind? Their contributions made a better world, often unrecognized, silenced and unhonored is shameful. Someone write a book on these untold worthy heros of humanity.
People got trialled for war crimes after the war, yet the treatment for this wonderful man by the British government went unpunished. He was a hero that was treated appallingly by his own. I didn’t know too much about him till i watched the movie many years ago and I felt ashamed of our country.
Good video. It's difficult to wrap my mind around the worldwide effort to win the war. I do believe he made a huge contribution to the war. Not to forget the many people who helped and worked with him to make it happen.
Turing saved countless lives, any amount of funds, an unquantifiable cost; and his own country, nay, the world, chose to repay him in a manner related only to whom he loved. So very wrong.
@@martinkirouac reasons i dont want to make america "great" ever again... i want to make america NEW, where we learn from our past wrongs and improve ourselves to be a leader in the world in all things NOT including who has bigger guns.
Got to give a big thanks to those Poles who passed on the Enigma machines to Britain I doubt even Turing could have broken the code without that. 45:53 Turing spared Berlin being nuked.
Not strictly true...they built the later machine purely by using the codes and settings without seeing the original german machine as stated in this doc
Excellent video! Many years ago I read a book about the exploits of Bletchley Park and Alan Turing's work. I was fascinated by it all. This video really complements that book. Thanks for sharing.
Enigma was broken several times: the original machine was deciphered by three Polish mathematicians, the more complex version used by the army and the German air force, then the most critical and complex version used by the German navy. There were brilliant people at Blenchly but Turing was a genius.
Imagine how many more brilliant geniuses are suffering the way he did right at this very moment, just because people cannot help but discriminate against them on the very simple fact of who they love.
This is by far the most in depth documentry regarding enigma and code breaking during ww2.can't believe he was considered a national threat to security instead of being knighted,we Brits never deserved such a phenomenal individual shame on us and the Britsh constabulary.
If only he had been allowed to live a happy life after all he did for the World, that would have been a start. What strange creatures we are, that we inflict such misery on the people who deserve it the very least. God Bless Alan Turing
My husband, a brilliant genius engineer from New Zealand, were doing a wander in England back around 2002, and we went by Benchley Park and wanted to see inside. It was fall, November, and apparently the Brits were still doing something rather hush-hush there, because there were two tall and well-armed guards in uniforms who would not allow us to enter the park and who advised us to come back on another day when they would be open to the public. But, we never had time to go back...terribly disappointing. But, it appears that it is now open year round. So, do go through there if you can.
Thanks...I certainly do know that it's Bletchley Park, especially having been there, and read the book! And my spellchecker does very strange things sometimes...normally causing me to proofread my emails perhaps 3 times. I have wondered if it is possessed by an evil spirit. 😈. But, thank you for noticing.
why is nothing ever mentioned about the 3 very clever and vital Polish mathematicians who helped the allies in early 1930's. They gave over valuable information on Enigma and methods they developed to crack the code. These vital people gave the Allies and in particular the British code breakers a massive head start but receive little to no recognition.
I think someone should make one. There’s always room to recognize everyone’s valuable contributions. This seems to focus on Turing since it was labeled as such, but a story of other individuals and nations that helped would be so great! It really had to be a team effort.
Couldn't agree more. The work that Marion Rejewski and his colleagues did was critical. And not to take away from Alan Turing's brilliance, but there were others at Bletchley like Gordon Welchman who also made critical contributions and yet we rarely hear their names.
@@thatslifethatswhatpeoplesa7434 What for? A ,17 year old, dragged kicking and screaming on to an aircraft, crossed an ocean, I wonder how much she was paid? Before the pay off. Her father apparently is very proud of her. I wonder what for? Ye Gods 🙄
Breaks my heart to see how poorly this hero was treated. Not acceptable, should never happen. Sad. That is how he was pay for his work. Horrible, just horrible. Thank you for all that you did. May you rest in peace. Knowing that you finally are recognize for your good work. Forever thankful.
Alan was no doubt the maverick genius, who saved many lives by his invention, Flowers's contribution is equally remarkable. But Alan is the hero of the story a tragic hero one in that. the villain of the story is the inventor of the enigma machine, we must give credit where it is due apart form the fact the the enigma was used by the Nazis, to help them rampage from 1932 to 1945 it was an invention as remarkable as that of Ultra and Colossal . As far I can see a documentary on the inventor of the enigma machine is also needed to see what kind of scientist threw a challenge to Alan and flowers intellect. Do you think so Timeline team?
@@justintyme8542 Total BS. What have I done??? Let me see first your accomplishments then we're going to have REAL DISCUSSION.......Without Polish mathematician Marian Rejewski your genius could NOT brake the ENIGMA code. After Alan Turing met Rejewski and received a lecture on ENIGMA in France then later he started to brake the German codes. Learn THE TRUTH and be more humble..........I despise the Brits for their cowardly behavior during the 2nd World War. UK and France signed the treaty with Poland in 1939 to stand up together to Hitler's Germany. France & UK DID NOTHING to fulfill the treaty with Poland. They left alone Poland, so the Germans could invade, destroy infrastructure and kill over 6 028 000 Polish Citizens. Where were UK with support and help ??? Cowards !!!!
Recommended reading: The Woman Who Smashed Codes: A True Story of Love, Spies, and the Unlikely Heroine Who Outwitted America's Enemies Book by Jason Fagone about Elizebeth Smith Friedman who single handedly broke the Enigma code here in the United States at the same time. She died without any recognition at all, too.
We once met the lady who was nurse to one of this mans close friends. He believed that Mr Turing accidentally poisoned himself. Apparently he was a messy worker who, even in the lab with poisons around would eat there rather than go to another safer area. I still find it awful that after all his work that saved so many lives, he was punished for his sexuality.
An excellent documentary highlighting Turing's work on the Enigma. Could I request a similar, in depth program on Bill Tutte's feat of theoretically reconstructing the Lorenz code machine without even laying eyes on it.
Alan was a hero in every sense of the word. What did we do, we did what we do best, destroy those who mean us no harm because they do not match the views of others. So he becomes a threat, he must be destroyed. I hope Alan is in a better place. Thank you Alan, I might have been writing this in German if it was not for you and all those who gave their lives so we could be free.RIP Alan.
Alan Turing was a genius. If not for him, who can say what the outcome of the war would have been. If only Mr. Turing had been born a generation later, his lifestyle would not have been a factor which resulted in his chemical castration and eventual death by cyanide. How unforgiving is it that Great Britain allowed/encouraged the courts to ultimately end his life.
He was murdered. Unfortunate indeed. For him not to share his knowledge to the enemy. The allies whom he saved treat him now as an "enemy." So they have to eliminate him. Simple as that.
THIS^^^ this is what broke me, through it all and he kept his word till death. When the world turns on you and he kept his integrity for the better of the world. Absolutely hurts my heart😞
Good kind people are used by sociopaths who are in power because they have to have it over others in order to steal their lives so they (the sociopaths) can live in more luxury. @@trusttheprocess5618
Turing has the most unknown life and a wonderful legacy that all around the world carry an example of his end. Will they ever! question, why my device has a half eaten apple on it??? So sad
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 but Turing was the inventor of the first Bombe. and was realy the godfather of computing . A lot of the other cryptogrophers had to keep it secret for 50 years because of the OSA . I think they all should take credit for their incredible work.
@@jannerkev The first "bomba" was designed by the Polish cryptographer Marian Rejewski pre-war, Turing took his creation and developed it further, just as Charles Wynn-Williams took Turing's bombe design and expanded it to deal with the vital kriegsmarine 4 rotor "shark" cypher, which Turing's bombe could only decypher VERY slowly meaning that any information gleaned was most likely of no practical use. Who in the general public has ever heard of Marian Rejewski or Charles Wynn-Williams? The whole of the British decryption efforts were a huge team effort. Turing was a giant in the company of other giants, (Gordon Welchman, Bill Tutte, Tommy Flowers, Arne Beurling amongst others), but it is Turing's homosexuality that has been used by the "identity politics" lefties of today to elevate him to the status of a demi god, whilst simultaneously devaluing the contributions of the many others who also made equally vital contributions.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 What a shame. You were doing so well and making perfectly valid points until you started in with that tired old snivelling and whining about ‘Identity politics” and “lefties” Turing was part of a team but his contribution to the decipherment of the Enigma Code was absolutely crucial. Furthermore, his contribution to theoretical computer science was hugely important. Try not to let your petty bigotry and loathing for “lefties” make you so churlish about the contributions from people like Turing.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Now you sound like a complete fruitcake, spewing out paranoid conspiracy theory fantasies chief. Calm the **** down. TH-cam is part of Google. The only agenda they have is making loads of money. Calling them “lefty” is so stupid it verges on being dysfunctional. But if it inflates your vanity and self regard to imagine that your petulant, churlish bleating has been censored because of some huge global conspiracy theory then feel free to wallow in that comforting fantasy.
Alan Turing- the man that was chemically castrated for being a homosexual despite cracking the enigma machine. Fixed it for you. What a way to thank someone who saved your way of life.
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This man was a genius who saved millions of lives. Wish the world had been kinder to him
Stop act like he did it alone. Its so far from the truth you can come.
Lol idolatry fanaticism is dangerous
@Sahaj Katharine Amen to that. Turing saved countless lives, any amount of funds, an unquantifiable cost; and his own country, nay, the world, chose to repay him in a manner related only to whom he loved. So very wrong.
Everybody did what they could .I'm still hearing amazing stories
Even today - I discovered someone had taken this video down. Fortunately, I was able to repost it...
One of the world's intelligent man who saved millions - extremely unhappy how he was treated in the end - RIP Genius, what work could he achieved if he lived longer
Whatever benefits due to him(Turing),let any surviving immediate family members (sisters,brothers,2nd generation relatives,etc) received the blessings from the British government...Lesson from the Bible: As an act of GRATITDE,the newly proclaimed king of Israel,king David,seek for any immediate sons/daughters of king Saul- who had just died in battle together with his 3.sons who were high ranking officers in the Israeli army...Such surviving immediate family of king Saul received great favor/treatment from king David during his reign as king of Israel...Wake up British Government!!.. INGRATITUDE sin was one of the MOST HATED SIN in the eyes of Abrahamic God...Almost every square feet of Egypt were destroyed due to the 10.series of horrible plagues- which God allowed to fall into Egypt...Their sin?... INGRATITUDE: They forget what Joseph did around 400yrs before- how the nation of Egypt scape a 7yrs of horrible famine- due to prophetic warning from God 7.yrs before the famine started...God used Joseph as the interpreter of pharaohs dream- about the meaning of 7.fat cows and of 7.very thin cows....and the 7.ear laden corn stalk & the 7.ear empty dried corn stalk....King Saul was also guilty of the sin of INGRATITUDE... due to the courage of shepherd boy David, Goliath the 10 feet high slanderer of Israel for 40 days span- his mouth was finally silence at the end of 40 days period- stone from David slingshot sunk on his forehead,he fell to the ground facing down... David immediately rushed toward him and used the personal sword of Goliath in cutting Goliath neck!!...The next scene of king Saul life,he was trying to kill David by means of spear- so David decided to leave the palace comfort and scape as fugitive in the wilderness...King Saul life end was unglorious, he committed suicide- rather than be caught alive by the rushing enemies...On same day,his 3.sons,all army officers,died also in the hand of their attacker....
By fighting Germany Britain signed its own death (and its final downfall as a former super power!). The future of England is a Arabic and black future in ruins. Wait and see
There was a thought project in my college days that claimed he may have advanced computer science even artificial intelligence by decades if he would have lived in a more progressive world
Saving millions of lives, so he's directly responsible for overpopulation !
So terribly sad. So inhuman. What a loss to the world.
The fact that they waited until 2013 to grant him a posthumous pardon is even more disgraceful! The mind truly boggles when you think what this man did for the world never mind Britain!
How many lives were saved by his brilliance? Not to mention his pioneering gift of computing to mankind?
He stopped caring about a pardon. He didn't mind having to wait - on account of him being deceased.
By the way, the Soviets would not have attacked Poland in such a situation in which the Germans were defeated. If the French and British had massively attacked in the West, as agreed with Poland, Soviets would not have dared to raid Poland with the weak Red Army. Because Soviets did not want a war against the British and French, who might have been supported by the Americans. The Soviets also knew that, as in the war of 1919-21, the Poles would fight to the limit. So the Soviets waited and watched the reaction of the British and French. Only when it was obvious that they would betray Poland did Soviets raid Poland. Soviets knew they were inferior because the red army was in a miserable condition. The fact that the Red Army was in a bad state was also shown by the fight against Polish troops. The Soviets even had problems with the Polish Border Protection Corps (KOP) in 1939! For example in the Battle of Szack a 4,000 men KOP troop without air support and without tanks and only 16 piece of artillery defeated 13 000 Soviets supported by 15 tanks and 15 piece of artillery. All of the Soviet tanks involved were destroyed or captured in the battle! The Soviet units were taken by surprise and after a short hand-to-hand fight the Soviet forces were routed. Only a small part of the motorized infantry managed to retreat, but had to leave behind all their trucks, artillery and 9 T-26 tanks. The Poles also captured the staff headquarters. So with this weak red army the Soviets would not have dared to attack Poland in a situation while the Germans lost the war.
Incidentally, Poles have paid! After the war, a bill covering the equipment and operating costs of the Polish army in Great Britain, was paid from the Polish gold reserves deposited in Canada. At the same time the Germans were fed by the British occupying forces, the British have that financed! In the same time there was hunger in Poland under the Soviet occupation! My parents and their relatives hungered after the war in Poland! Without the betrayals my parents would also not have had to go hungry. By the way, a few years later the Germans were forgiven a large part of their debts, also through the initiative of the British.
@@GreatPolishWingedHussars My mother married a Polish gentleman, who gave a different view. He was there he joined the Free Polish Army. Joined the Parachute Regiment , was dropped at Arnhem. He actually became a British citizen and stayed after the war. He only had good to say about Britain, and the British people. You know that citizens of any Country cannot be responsible for all its Politicians, and the decisions they make. Churchill was lucky, he had the BRITISH people behind him. And back up of the people of the what became the Commonwealth.
@@iriscollins7583 YES, I also know this argument from the Germans. They also say they were innocent. The government was to blame. This is nonsense. Nations are responsible for their governments and the actions of those governments. Nor am I aware of any protest demonstrations of the British against the betrayal of the British government. On the other hand, in Poland there were demonstrations of gratitude to the British when the German raided Poland and the British declared war on Germany. On the tarsparents was written e.g. Long live England. The Poles didn't know that the British and French declaration of war 1939 against Germany served only for saving face. The British and the French did not intend to keep to the contractual agreements and to attack massively in the west. They wanted to sacrifice Poland for peace with the Germans! This was the continuation of British and French stupid appeasement politics of the 30s! The inaction of the French and British in the West was the message to Germany: Be satisfied with Poland. Do not attack us behind the Maginot Line. We do not attack Germany either! By the way, you say it yourself. Churchill had the BRITISH people behind him. Yes, it was no different with the traitor Neville Chamberlain when he betrayed Poland in 1939. He acted on behalf of the British people! Churchill was a traitor too!
As for your "Polish gentleman", it's a good thing that this fool didn't come back to Poland! The less fools there are in Poland, the better! But most of the Polish soldiers of Polish Armed Forces in the West were not fools because they were aware of the betrayal. But they fought anyway out of desperation continued on the side of the traitors. Because they hoped for the support by the Americans. But that was an illusion. Polish-Americans have far too little influence in the United States. For the majority of Americans Poland and all of Eastern Europe were completely irrelevant. Today the British would act no differently! But fortunately Poland will not need British support as an ally, because Russia is not a threat to Poland. This danger is fueled only by Western propaganda. In any case, the British would act exactly as they did in 1939. Because one is not a good ally for people wich one despise. The arrogance is no different than towards the Irish either! In Britain, Polish flags have already been trampled on and a Polish flag has also been burned! A Pole was also murdered! Many of the Poles who made the mistake of emigrating to Britain have returned. Good for them! Most don't say good things about the British! But fortunately Poland will not need British assistance, because Russia is not a threat to Poland. This danger is fueled only by Western propaganda.
But I wish the British all the best with their non-European migrants. They apparently like them better than the European Poles. They also integrate better than Poles. But I wish the British a happy future with their non-European migrants. The British apparently like them better than the European Poles. They also integrate better than Poles.They also have a high birth rate and more are coming. the British can be happy about that! Isn't 'Muhammad' now the most popular boys' name in the UK?
This drove me to tears at the very end. Alan Turing did not deserve what was done to him. And frankly, we don't deserve him and his brilliance.
When I found out how he was treated, every time I watch "The Imitation Game", the ending makes me cry.
Yes we do. What happened at the time was what happened. People were almost certainly wrongly hanged too. You cannot re-write the past.
He saved millions of lives, using pure intelligence and genius. He never deserved what our government did to him 😓😔
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Stop internalizing the problems of the world...there's ENOUGH Xanax-Zombies walking amongst us already
So sad that we can't treat people as equal no matter what their private lives are. We should be proud to have such an individual who contributed so much. All people are worthy of their dignity and respected for their contributions
Different times and different values.
@@dulls8475 not so different times and not so different values, just look at Florida and Texas
Sadly in 2022 there are still too many people who would jail another Turing, in the USA, UK, Canada - educated, modern people. It’s deplorable that cultures stuck in the Middle Ages consider how a person is born to be a crime, but even more so in our educated society.
@@kathypiazza4567 at times it feels like we're going backwards. The hope now comes from how united people have become with this war. If we can do that on a global scale, we should be able to move the needle in a positive direction. Let's not despair, ever, but keep our eye on the goal of a better world. This war is showing us how and providing that we can
@@dulls8475 not so sure about the values
Can you imagine if people just kept their nose out of his private life how many things this man might have discovered, invented or the problems he might have solved.
It would have been best. Sadly, back then people felt entitled to regulate one's personal life as much as public life. I figure adults are entitled totheir own private lives as long as they harm no one.
Male homosexual was a criminal offence until the 1970's. The establishment was evidently full of them and when war broke out 'blind eyes' were turned on. What mattered was their intellect. When the war ended the establishment decided to reintroduce its attitude of intolerance. Sadly Turing was not the only one who committed suicide.
A problem we still struggle with in the US today.
@@janicebrowningaquino792 This is what happens when religion albeit in a very subtle way, governs the way people think. I have a relative who is homosexual - it was a shock, but I have accepted it. Where I live we have neighbours who are openly homosexual. Live and let live.
@@harrietharlow9929 Sadly here in the US our "christian" nationalists are on the march to remove the equality of those not heterosexual. England matches these horrors when it comes to transgenered persons. We still haven't learned.
I read the book that covered Turing and the brilliant scientists, engineers, physicists, and mathematicians that made the first computer and what it took to run the calculations to win the war. Dense. Really dense. I never felt so insignificant in my life. This guy was incredible.
Do you think he was an exceptional genius ????After all he did was some permutation and combination.
@@thoughts4872a penny for your thoughts. how would you like a high dose of estrogen shrink your nuts? So that's the thanks Allen got from a dumb dumb Queen. I wonder would you say the same thing about Nikola Tesla. These guys both unmarried with valuable time on their hands to explore their wildest dreams thinking in the abstract outside the box. In turn for the efforts had improved on other scientists experiments suffering at all these mysteries and coming up with ways that's true of humanity in the war effort and the feel of electricity and computers they're probably both be the 4Runners of the computer
The first ever computer was made by ancient Greeks
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
There is some documentaries on TH-cam I advise you to watch any and then tell me how insignificant you felt.
Actually, in 1941, John Vincent Atanasoff, a professor of physics and mathematics at Iowa State University, and his graduate student, Clifford Berry, design/build the first digital electronic computer in the U.S., called the Atanasoff-Berry Computer (ABC). This marks the first time a computer is able to store information on its main memory, and is capable of performing one operation every 15 seconds. This came from a grant proposal he submitted in 1937 to build the first electric-only computer, without using gears, cams, belts or shafts.
@@davekneram739 I think you misread his comment
It is perhaps worth mentioning that the Polish intelligence developed a cryptographic machine called "Bomba" (which is why Turing called his machine "bombe") in 1938 already, under the lead of Rejewski, a mathematician. Rejewski worked on Enigma since 1933, and solved earlier Enigma versions with simpler machines, for years. At that time, Poland was leading in cryptography. Eventually, due to the difficult political situation, Rejewski and the Polish government decided to share their research with the British in July 1939. Turing met with the Polish codebreakers in July 1939 for the first time. The brilliance of Turing's improvement was his general purpose and an electro-mechanical solution to that cipher machine, but his work was based on the shoulders of those Polish mathematicians, of course, who not just supplied the British with a few Enigma machines but their research and functional "bomba" of their own designs. Unsure why this important detail is frequently left out, not only in Hollywood; but cryptography computer science students usually know about this.
It's not, I and many others know about the Polish contribution!
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Until recently I was teaching a class on numerical computing at a prestigious American university. One of the topics involved the basics of Turing machines. I always made it a point to tell students that Alan Turing not only saved the lives of many millions (perhaps hundreds of millions if the Germans had won the war in his absence), but that he was homosexual and was driven to suicide by the British government because of his sexuality. The true dimension of this atrocity never failed to grip the minds of my students (who were blissfully unaware of the fact), and pall of silence would drop in the lecture hall. I would then break the silence by telling students the Queen had recently "pardoned" him for his crime, adding a degrading insult to his injury.
It was mentioned.
@@grandoldpartisan8170 Mentioned in passing as a minor detail. The Brits never took responsibility for what they did.
What an exciting history, and how sad its final is. The brilliant mind was bulled and killed by unknown nonentities. I am a Russian, and I am so grateful to Alan Turing for his contribution in the Allies’ victory in 1945.
And Stalingrad
Op
Especially during the run up to Kursk! 😉
So sad but grateful that at least now Turings’ contributions r recognized and hopefully we have learned something about ourselves that will help us better appreciate each other’s differences better and follow Jesus teachings to love one another!
He knew too much, he was going to spill the beans what really went on in ww 2
Alan Turing should have been awarded a Knight Hood at the very least, absolute legend.
@Theo N not sure what your post is meant to say, to be honest.
No but Paul and Elton do how pathetic is that England has fallen and never can get up
This story teaches us that A: No good deed goes unpunished. ...and that B: Those most responsible for the success of technical projects are not the ones who reap the rewards.
@Dave Pin
And why would you assume that, and why specifically 98%?
Still true today.
Tesla
The story of every inventor.
Bletchley was full of top minds in related disciplines, but Turing was at the top of the field. While Bill Tutte led the team who amazingly figured out how the Lorenz machine was constructed and Tommy Flowers was primarily responsible for building Colossus, that only gave them the possible cipher keys (wheel settings) that were being used. Alan Turing saw how to apply statistical methods and other mathematic logic to use Colossus efficiently and actually allow the ciphers to be read. Alan Turing was completely responsible for creating the Bombes, with one significant improvement suggested by Welchman. Turing created the methods applied to decrease the Bombe run time necessary to find the wheel and plug board settings for Enigma. Neither one of the machines spit out the decoded message. They just gave them the possible settings that met criteria Turing established. It still took a tremendous amount of human work to choose the appropriate settings and to correctly decode and read the messages and interpret what they meant. He was obviously the intellectual leader of Bletchley since he was the one sent to the US when Britain began collaborating with the US on Enigma and other decipherments. Who knows what Turing could have accomplished after the war had he been allowed to continue his work in developing computers and in his other theoretical work in math and science rather than being hounded and killed by a homophobic society. What a crime to destroy such a brilliant mind and gentle soul. I am an avid Turing fan, if you could not tell.
The idiots cannot stand to allow a total brillant brain be free to survive . Sad.
Tall Poppy Syndrome.
You are not are you lol
Thank you for your balanced view, Sargent Charles Thornton did the 1st Tank, with the PIAT,, I take nothing away from this very clever people..
I find it wonderous, here, in 2022, a single line gets more "Like" (lickybums) than your whole mf paragraph. Wonderful, well said... and all that. I just wish more folk bothered to read the comments, before watching the freakin' FREE film / Documentary and then deciding to click a thumb :)
An Uncle of mine served as an Army Signal Corps Officer and he landed with the U. S. Forces at Normandy. I wish that I had known more about Turing while my Uncle was alive so I could have asked him what he knew, if anything, about Turing's work during that time and how it might have affected his own experience during the invasion. Like my Dad, a Pearl Harbor Survivor who served throughout the Pacific after that, my Uncle rarely spoke about the war. I am grateful for documentaries like this one for filling in for me what so many in the "Greatest Generation" could never speak about. One thing my Dad and my Uncle did say, however, will always be part of my life: "Never Forget Us." I won't.
Thank you for posting this. We have similar upbringing. I was in my late teens before I ever heard my father relate a war incident to me. Seems to me, they were simply trying to shield us from the ugliness. Letting us just be kids and not worry about such things. Was a different world back then. All the best to you and yours.
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True enough, but maybe they were also trying to shield themselves from horrific memories. When my brother and I were in Vietnam my Dad - who was a Navy Corpsman attached to the Fleet Marines after surviving Pearl Harbor - began to have nightmares about opening body bags and seeing one of us in it. We didn't find out about this until we were both safe at home.
Later on my Dad, my brother, and I were interviewed by Michael Takiff for his book - Brave Men, Gentle Heroes - that compared and contrasted the experiences of WWII fathers and Vietnam War sons. The interviews were both traumatic but also cathartic for all of us.
www.amazon.com/Brave-Men-Gentle-Heroes-American/dp/0060935774
most of the men involved never spoke of war after returning home, my father was one of them and i had so many questions.....sorry Alan from those of us who have lived lives as free people thanks to all the heros
I see that lighting patch (Schofield Barracks) 👀…my parents were both deployed in the later wars (OIF) and such matters, I was in elementary school. They too never spoke of things that happened. It was on the news sometimes but you just never knew. My mother had a breakdown one day after something happened and I didn’t realize until then that something in her was very broken. She told me something about “children our age” wasn’t until I was older when she explained that children were used in war as well and it kinda messed her up
My Dad was on the Ranger , his brother was on the Yorktown . Dad came home and my only Uncle did not , never found to this day . I never forget and I know that freedom isn't free , someone paid with injuries , mental breakdown , torture or death ...
Wow, it’s amazing how poorly one’s own government treated this hero. He obviously saved countless thousands of lives, yet was unable to live his the way he desired too. What a shame smh😕
It was the thinking of the time!
@@dinerouk And there is nothing wrong in condemning it for the hypocrisy and ignoraance that drove such thinking.
@@dinerouk Yes you're right. As I child I couldn't understand how loving someone was seen as a crime, yet went to church and worshipped a man who told us to love everyone?
Let's not forget they're doing this to children today now.
You have only to look back at the British Govt's record over the last three hundred years to see how appalling they treated Military Service Personnel - be they armed forces or civilian, NiceRage...& always, it is glossed over....
None of the 10,000 people who worked at Bletchley spoke a word about the work they did there.
The very existence of the place was a state secret well into the 1980s.
Quite remarkable.
Wow!
The Cold War would have meant the government would have bribed and threatened to make sure the soviets were unaware
Well, Frederick Winterbotham did write the book "The Ultra Secret" in 1974, but I take your point... While the book has many errors and inconsistencies it is well worth reading as it was the first widely distributed information about the allies cryptological activities in WWII.
People were more patriotic in those days.
It's a shame that he didn't get the respect he deserved.
Yes, but of course, the Brits can't help but to miss their chance at not being stuffy, self-serving arrogant dolts - after having exhausted all other options.
@Ride TheCurve
Hang on you cretin, you realise that the USA only finally decriminalised sodomy laws a mere 19 years ago?
You also realise there are developed and developing countries where homosexuality is a punishable offence to this day?
'The Brits' - What an idiotic term of generalisation regarding people you zero idea about.
Keep looking for that light switch up there.
P.s. for context the 'cretin' in question has since deleted his anti-anglo comment.
It's also a shame that most people nowadays have no idea how his ideas has impacted our daily lives, the way we communicate, the way we do business and the way we work.
It's because idiots can't understand Genius, so they mock them instead. Even Tesla was a "wacko" that was in love with a pigeon, even though pigeons were often used to communicate with other humans.
bigotry killed him
I shed a tear every single time I hear about Alan's ending. Such a great guy that we owe a tremendous amount treated in such a vile way... :'(
/thyroid=y😅😅
The only good thing to emerge since is pardon is that now more people know about what a brilliant man he was and how much we all owe him.
And, as comments here show, the cruelty that Turing suffered, including chemical castration, was what English law provided for all homosexuals at that time, and this was shameful.
So another very significant "good thing" is that, through Turing's fame, he forced the UK to be aware of, and feel shame for, this legally-enforced past cruelty to homosexuals. Even Oscar Wilde didn't manage that. It led to the premature death of both.
@@theon9575 thank you Theo for commenting
Homophobes(hidden homosexuals) should be sent back in time with an army of homophobes, to tell Alexander the Great to stop liking boys. Hahah, imagine cowardly, worthless homophobes trying to form an army to fight Alexander!!! lol
It was a disgrace how this brilliant man was treated.
Nothing much has changed, the hate, bigotry, and the religious Christian right, would like to have the right to destroy, injure or kill homosexuals legally, to imprison and torture this vulnerable segment of society as their personal scapegoat! This is likely to happen if the Republicans form an Autocracy!
@@dougfraser4452 you need help, you are seriously delusional and very misinformed
I say again! It was the thinking of the time!
@@dinerouk Doesn't make it right.
@@harrietharlow9929rc g I have to get rt
Turing stands out as one of the greatest men in UK history. A real hero of the free world. He was rewarded by being tormented, tortured to death by his own country.
Alan Turing played a crucial part in securing the Allied victory during World War II. His successful decoding of the Enigma code at Bletchley Park was a game-changer that significantly impacted the outcome of the war. Despite not receiving adequate recognition during his lifetime, Turing's groundbreaking work has become legendary in the field of computer science. His innovative ideas and techniques have left an indelible mark on the field and continue to inspire and shape it to this day.
A Brilliant Sensitive Man amongst men. What a tragic Life this young man had, truly a Genius but tortured by his hidden passion for something which at his time was forbidden, how times have changed. We can only be grateful to this Man for Everything that he accomplished and sacrificed. Thank You Sir.
He's an unsung Hero.... May his soul rest in peace....... (Lumut Malaysia)
It was amazing how the people who worked at Bletchley Park were so quite about what they did, they saved countless numbers of lives and did it all in secrecy.
Many allied seafarers lives were lost deliberately to maintain the secret that the enigma code had been cracked.
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Source?
Quiet?
They would have been charged under the secrecy laws, which carried a death sentence. Also, many believed that it was patriotic to keep these methods secret until technology had surpassed these code breaking computers.
@@skylined5534 I remember reading the same thing but can't remember. I will work on replying again with the information.
A man who shortened the war by 2 years and saved 14 million lives. RIP Alan Turin.
Who is that Tommy Flowers?
Police got him in the end.
Dude would have only had to do TWO YEARS in prison. Instead he chose chemical castration?? WHAT??
@@braziliandollarxstream122 he didn't want to go to jail because he wanted to continue doing his work. His work was his whole life. Unfortunately the chemical castration caused so many feminizing side effects and depressed him to such an extent that he eventually killed himself
@@gunjan2323 I can agree with that. I like that theory. Speaking with other people about this i also heard something along the lines of “With his homosexual charges prison would have been a dangerous place for him so he chose castration” but yeah I see your point
A brilliant man and mind, Alan Turing. RESPECT
Sad but inspiring. He was really a great man. God Bless his soul. Thanks a lot, Mister Turing
Great Britain commemorated Turing with the £50 note of 2021, a small yet tangible gesture of respect. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Interesting but misleading in a typical British way: the enigma code was broken several years before WWII by Polish mathematicians in addition to having copies the enigma machine itself. What Turing did was to device a machine to break an enigma message faster by orders of magnitude but this was based on the Polish original work.
They keep forgetting to add this small detail to most british documents about Enigma. And they call themselfs historian. Rejewski, Różycki and Zygalski broke the code in 1932.
Thank you for keeping it real.
Your post is misleading as well. It reads as if the Pole's breaking of the code continued to work during the war which it did not due to changes made by the Germans. The work at Bletchley Park enabled the more complex iterations of enigma to be cracked and then to do so in a timely manner.
@@CB-fz3li your post is misleading as well. It reads as if the Pole's breaking code didn't continue to work. It did in some extension, and we read some messages but yes, not all. Mostly due to lack of funding and money on polish side. Check cryptological bomb by Rejewski or Zygalski sheets. Poles meet with Bletchley Park people in 1939 and gave them all the info they needed to continue the work.
Without Allen’s machines this whole exercise would be absolutely undiscoverable.
@@IamMarian the enigma of 1932 and 1939 was a different machine.
It's genuinely disappointing that productions like this are so rare today on television.
Genius and War Hero. Every high school computer science course should start by introducing him.
Such a genius of man that gave so much to the world yet he was treated in the cruelest of ways. Imagine how different the world could of been today without him
Alan will always be my hero and one of the strongest men in history.
He saved millions of lives and had his own Destroyed by those he saved.
YEAH ?? tell me about it
not him alone, thousands of people worked on it, including the Poles who first broke Enigma and sent all their findings to the Brits.
Absolutely outrageous, the way he was treated… that the £50 note shows his face is a kind of recovery from that horrendous experience he had to love with…
Truly a sad story. They couldn't leave this hero alone.
Alan Turing. The mind behind the birth of the modern computer 🖥 Way ahead of his time
This is the best presentation of Turing I have ever encountered, and that's a lot, including seeing _Breaking the Code_ in the West End. The minimalist animations are particularly effective.
Its tragic on so many levels, but the worst betrayal was that of his colleagues, those senior to him and those who simply didn’t understand the brilliance of the man and his ideas. And what is even more worrying is that this assuredly continues today.
True ;(
Reminds me of the WW1 observation re the bravery of troops of that time: ‘Lions led by donkeys.’ Well, Turing was a lion all right. And suffered for it.
I am utterly amaized by his Brilliance. I knew of him, but when I saw the movie and how he was discarded by the govt. Broke my heart, his contribution meant nothing to them. Brilliant man, along with Ho Chi Minh both men are my hero's.
Why do you regard Ho Chi Mihn as a hero?
Y KNOT...
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He fought two imperialist powers to gain independence for Vietnam. If the American government had been wiser after WW2 they would have supported Ho Chi Minh instead of propping up the brutal colonial occupation of Vietnam by the French.
Incredibly I met his nephew here in Scotland recently whilst dropping stuff off at his new property which he is opening up for Ukrainian refugees. Very nice man and I enjoyed a brief conversation with him about Bletchley Park!
Helping humanity seems to be a family trait of theirs. Nice you were able to meet one of them.
I spent three amazing hours at Bletchley Park this winter. I would highly recommend visiting the museum.
Alan Turing will be immortalized into the hearts of mathematicians who liked him had been ostracized simply because of having a different sexual orientation. He was a pure soul who save many during the war and inspired others to revolutionize information technology.
Actually, I think he's immortalised in the hearts of ALL mathematicians who recognise his huge input into the mathematics of information technology.
Bletchly Park was a marvel. Alan Turing was the biggest park. He was treated as an abominably. I am so glad his story is coming out to the public. Allied armies and navies in both Atlantic and Pacific were guided by the work he and his team did. Truly it ended the war sooner and saved many many lives.
Yes he was treated abysmally...sadly, the gvmnt then as they are now are simply 'weak, parasitic turncoats, and have never changed. He had more sense in his little toe than the lot...combined, with the exception of Churchill and a few others (look how they treated him after the war!). Despicable ppl, if it wasn't for these great individuals then these parasite's would have little to gnaw on!.(after they'd surrendered of course)
Impressive Person. It sucks that there was so much ignorance in his day....and there still is.
Well said.
It's terrifying how backward thinking a lot of people still are.
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Are you serious?
@@kevinmangan1213 YOURS. for asking such a stupid question.
@@kevinmangan1213 I think he's refering to homophobia.
@@kevinmangan1213 wait what, yes it was bad he was died in such bad circumstances but is this supposed to be transphobic or something
Once again I am reminded of the saying that 'it seems many who are rewarded by their contemporaries are later condemned by history, while those who are most often condemned by their contemporaries tend to be belatedly rewarded by history.'
What great man, so badly treated by a nation who owed him so much.
Enigma code was Broken by 3 Polish mathematicians, and Poland used it in early 1931, please don’t forget it!
An early version of the enigma machine with simpler code cylinders, yes. But also let's not forget that brave RN men went into a sinking U-boat and grabbed another (later) machine and the codebooks.
Okay femboy nation
@@cum5681 sorry what?
Correct and not a lot of people know that
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Is that you, Michael Caine?
Thank you for the video. Thank you also for the wonderful narration - very clear and crisp. Very good narrator ❤
That was such an unfair treatment for someone who saved a nation's pride and millions of lives
They often showcase the cracking of the enigma code an astonishing thing, but weren´t the construction of the machine even more remarkable? Turing is obviously an outstanding person
What machine are you referring to Tor? The Enigma machine itself or the Bombes which were used to crack the encrypted messages? Or were you referring to the entirely different Lorentz Cipher machines or the world's first electronic computer which was built to crack that cipher?
This is a movie about him. What a genius who saved millions of lives! He is forever respected & admired!
How many more Alan Turing's are in the history of mankind? Their contributions made a better world, often unrecognized, silenced and unhonored is shameful. Someone write a book on these untold worthy heros of humanity.
People got trialled for war crimes after the war, yet the treatment for this wonderful man by the British government went unpunished. He was a hero that was treated appallingly by his own. I didn’t know too much about him till i watched the movie many years ago and I felt ashamed of our country.
Good video. It's difficult to wrap my mind around the worldwide effort to win the war. I do believe he made a huge contribution to the war. Not to forget the many people who helped and worked with him to make it happen.
Yes this man definitely deserved better!
he murdered himselfff
I just saw the imitation game. These rare geniuses are so often treated so awful. And yet they are more important than most people combined.
It is worth remembering that Turing aided the war effort, despite top down command and control,
not because of it.
Not just west but whole world is indebted to Alan Turing. What a brilliant lad.
Excellent history. Great Tragedy. Glad they honoured him recently...albeit much too late.
After all . . . we're all in this Earth . . . a short while ! 😬
Turing saved countless lives, any amount of funds, an unquantifiable cost; and his own country, nay, the world, chose to repay him in a manner related only to whom he loved. So very wrong.
Different times, different culture. Segregation in USA would only end 12 years after Turing's trial. I agree with you that was very wrong.
@@martinkirouac reasons i dont want to make america "great" ever again... i want to make america NEW, where we learn from our past wrongs and improve ourselves to be a leader in the world in all things NOT including who has bigger guns.
@@ghomerhust excellent choice of words Josh. I could not agree more.
@Josh Hust
Very nicely put. America I think, needs more who think along your lines!
@@ghomerhust Well-said, Josh. Some here. If MGA were to be realized it would make life more difficult for many, many people.
Such a tragic story and senseless death.
Got to give a big thanks to those Poles who passed on the Enigma machines to Britain
I doubt even Turing could have broken the code without that.
45:53 Turing spared Berlin being nuked.
Not strictly true...they built the later machine purely by using the codes and settings without seeing the original german machine as stated in this doc
Poles broken the code in 1932
@@IamMarian Wspomaganie dla, ale angole są zarozumiali 1) th-cam.com/video/rGRu-D8j6ts/w-d-xo.html 2)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomba_(cryptography)
Excellent video! Many years ago I read a book about the exploits of Bletchley Park and Alan Turing's work. I was fascinated by it all. This video really complements that book. Thanks for sharing.
Enigma was broken several times: the original machine was deciphered by three Polish mathematicians, the more complex version used by the army and the German air force, then the most critical and complex version used by the German navy. There were brilliant people at Blenchly but Turing was a genius.
Imagine how many more brilliant geniuses are suffering the way he did right at this very moment, just because people cannot help but discriminate against them on the very simple fact of who they love.
Absolutely disgusting how this hero was treated by my own country. I hold my head in shame 😔.
Far from the UK’s finest moment
Firstly it's "hang my head in shame" and secondly as a Brit you should do that.
@legitbeans9078 Do your parents let you out on your own yet ?
This is by far the most in depth documentry regarding enigma and code breaking during ww2.can't believe he was considered a national threat to security instead of being knighted,we Brits never deserved such a phenomenal individual shame on us and the Britsh constabulary.
5/100
If only he had been allowed to live a happy life after all he did for the World, that would have been a start. What strange creatures we are, that we inflict such misery on the people who deserve it the very least. God Bless Alan Turing
Thankyou Alan , gone but definitely not forgotten ⚘️ This was beautifully made & a fitting tribute thankyou for posting it
Alan Turing, a name to be remembered!
My husband, a brilliant genius engineer from New Zealand, were doing a wander in England back around 2002, and we went by Benchley Park and wanted to see inside. It was fall, November, and apparently the Brits were still doing something rather hush-hush there, because there were two tall and well-armed guards in uniforms who would not allow us to enter the park and who advised us to come back on another day when they would be open to the public. But, we never had time to go back...terribly disappointing. But, it appears that it is now open year round. So, do go through there if you can.
Thats about the time they installed the recreated 'Collossus Computer'' Much of which WAS still classified. It's BLETCHLEY Park by the way.
Thanks...I certainly do know that it's Bletchley Park, especially having been there, and read the book! And my spellchecker does very strange things sometimes...normally causing me to proofread my emails perhaps 3 times. I have wondered if it is possessed by an evil spirit. 😈. But, thank you for noticing.
why is nothing ever mentioned about the 3 very clever and vital Polish mathematicians who helped the allies in early 1930's. They gave over valuable information on Enigma and methods they developed to crack the code. These vital people gave the Allies and in particular the British code breakers a massive head start but receive little to no recognition.
I think someone should make one. There’s always room to recognize everyone’s valuable contributions. This seems to focus on Turing since it was labeled as such, but a story of other individuals and nations that helped would be so great! It really had to be a team effort.
Couldn't agree more. The work that Marion Rejewski and his colleagues did was critical. And not to take away from Alan Turing's brilliance, but there were others at Bletchley like Gordon Welchman who also made critical contributions and yet we rarely hear their names.
A personal tragedy. What a hero, he deserved much better.
He was quite simply a tortured genius. RIP Mr. Turing and Thank you for everything you did for freedom.
This man was so ahead of his time... It's amazing to me. What a beautiful and brilliant mind
An apology from the queen?! It should have been a posthumous CBE.
Hope she apologizes for Andrew and his disgusting behavior
She was too busy giving a Knighthood to a war criminal.
@@thatslifethatswhatpeoplesa7434 What for? A ,17 year old, dragged kicking and screaming on to an aircraft, crossed an ocean, I wonder how much she was paid? Before the pay off. Her father apparently is very proud of her. I wonder what for? Ye Gods 🙄
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Being an apologist for abuse is never a good look.
Breaks my heart to see how poorly this hero was treated. Not acceptable, should never happen. Sad. That is how he was pay for his work. Horrible, just horrible. Thank you for all that you did. May you rest in peace. Knowing that you finally are recognize for your good work. Forever thankful.
Alan was no doubt the maverick genius, who saved many lives by his invention, Flowers's contribution is equally remarkable. But Alan is the hero of the story a tragic hero one in that. the villain of the story is the inventor of the enigma machine, we must give credit where it is due apart form the fact the the enigma was used by the Nazis, to help them rampage from 1932 to 1945 it was an invention as remarkable as that of Ultra and Colossal . As far I can see a documentary on the inventor of the enigma machine is also needed to see what kind of scientist threw a challenge to Alan and flowers intellect. Do you think so Timeline team?
On a more playful front, this combination of photography and animation is great!
Alan Turing a true genius with a good moral compass.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Moral compass ?????? Did you take your medicine today ??? What is moral about homosexuality ???
@@jerzyszmal2722 He saved countless lives and set precedent for modern computing, what have you done?
@@justintyme8542 Total BS. What have I done??? Let me see first your accomplishments then we're going to have REAL DISCUSSION.......Without Polish mathematician Marian Rejewski your genius could NOT brake the ENIGMA code. After Alan Turing met Rejewski and received a lecture on ENIGMA in France then later he started to brake the German codes. Learn THE TRUTH and be more humble..........I despise the Brits for their cowardly behavior during the 2nd World War. UK and France signed the treaty with Poland in 1939 to stand up together to Hitler's Germany. France & UK DID NOTHING to fulfill the treaty with Poland. They left alone Poland, so the Germans could invade, destroy infrastructure and kill over 6 028 000 Polish Citizens. Where were UK with support and help ??? Cowards !!!!
@@jerzyszmal2722 I like how you went from homophobic to full on schizo from one sentence take your pills and shut up😂
Imagine what Turing could have achieved if his directors and employers had listened to him.
They were too busy working as a TEAM with the greatest Brains in the world. Turing was only part of it.
Also Thank you Tommy Flowers ❤️🇬🇧
Recommended reading:
The Woman Who Smashed Codes: A True Story of Love, Spies, and the Unlikely Heroine Who Outwitted America's Enemies
Book by Jason Fagone about Elizebeth Smith Friedman who single handedly broke the Enigma code here in the United States at the same time. She died without any recognition at all, too.
One of the most important Englishman ever..we salute you Alan and thank you. RIP 🙏🏻
We once met the lady who was nurse to one of this mans close friends. He believed that Mr Turing accidentally poisoned himself. Apparently he was a messy worker who, even in the lab with poisons around would eat there rather than go to another safer area. I still find it awful that after all his work that saved so many lives, he was punished for his sexuality.
I am sure his death was accidental
Oh right. I suppose he accidentally chemically castrated himself, too.
The best documentary I've seen on the subject.
An excellent documentary highlighting Turing's work on the Enigma. Could I request a similar, in depth program on Bill Tutte's feat of theoretically reconstructing the Lorenz code machine without even laying eyes on it.
Alan was a hero in every sense of the word. What did we do, we did what we do best, destroy those who mean us no harm because they do not match the views of others. So he becomes a threat, he must be destroyed. I hope Alan is in a better place. Thank you Alan, I might have been writing this in German if it was not for you and all those who gave their lives so we could be free.RIP Alan.
Alan Turing was a genius. If not for him, who can say what the outcome of the war would have been. If only Mr. Turing had been born a generation later, his lifestyle would not have been a factor which resulted in his chemical castration and eventual death by cyanide. How unforgiving is it that Great Britain allowed/encouraged the courts to ultimately end his life.
He was a true genius who should never be forgotten.
Turing was part of a team . The likes of Tommy Flowers and Bill Tutte and others were JUST as important.
Turing: a giant surrounded by dwarves. Treacherous, ungrateful dwarves. An unspeakable tragedy.
He was murdered. Unfortunate indeed. For him not to share his knowledge to the enemy.
The allies whom he saved treat him now as an "enemy." So they have to eliminate him. Simple as that.
THIS^^^ this is what broke me, through it all and he kept his word till death. When the world turns on you and he kept his integrity for the better of the world. Absolutely hurts my heart😞
Good kind people are used by sociopaths who are in power because they have to have it over others in order to steal their lives so they (the sociopaths) can live in more luxury. @@trusttheprocess5618
If a time machine can save one and only one person from the past, Alan Turing is the number one choice, no doubt.
It nice seeing a different kind of story coming out of the Second World War.
Turing has the most unknown life and a wonderful legacy that all around the world carry an example of his end. Will they ever! question, why my device has a half eaten apple on it??? So sad
The half-eaten apple is a tribute to Alan Turing.
A pure Genius of a man. And we remember him by naming a road after him. There should be a statue of him outside the MOD.
What about the rest of the decryption team, all as equally important as Turing, but none of them known to the general public... I wonder why?
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 but Turing was the inventor of the first Bombe. and was realy the godfather of computing . A lot of the other cryptogrophers had to keep it secret for 50 years because of the OSA . I think they all should take credit for their incredible work.
@@jannerkev The first "bomba" was designed by the Polish cryptographer Marian Rejewski pre-war, Turing took his creation and developed it further, just as Charles Wynn-Williams took Turing's bombe design and expanded it to deal with the vital kriegsmarine 4 rotor "shark" cypher, which Turing's bombe could only decypher VERY slowly meaning that any information gleaned was most likely of no practical use. Who in the general public has ever heard of Marian Rejewski or Charles Wynn-Williams? The whole of the British decryption efforts were a huge team effort. Turing was a giant in the company of other giants, (Gordon Welchman, Bill Tutte, Tommy Flowers, Arne Beurling amongst others), but it is Turing's homosexuality that has been used by the "identity politics" lefties of today to elevate him to the status of a demi god, whilst simultaneously devaluing the contributions of the many others who also made equally vital contributions.
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What a shame. You were doing so well and making perfectly valid points until you started in with that tired old snivelling and whining about ‘Identity politics” and “lefties” Turing was part of a team but his contribution to the decipherment of the Enigma Code was absolutely crucial. Furthermore, his contribution to theoretical computer science was hugely important.
Try not to let your petty bigotry and loathing for “lefties” make you so churlish about the contributions from people like Turing.
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Now you sound like a complete fruitcake, spewing out paranoid conspiracy theory fantasies chief.
Calm the **** down. TH-cam is part of Google. The only agenda they have is making loads of money. Calling them “lefty” is so stupid it verges on being dysfunctional.
But if it inflates your vanity and self regard to imagine that your petulant, churlish bleating has been censored because of some huge global conspiracy theory then feel free to wallow in that comforting fantasy.
What an amazing man with a brilliant mind. Incredible what ideas he had that were years ahead of their time.
Alan Turing- the man that was chemically castrated for being a homosexual despite cracking the enigma machine.
Fixed it for you. What a way to thank someone who saved your way of life.
I’m reminded of the Chelsea Manning story
Ww2 just ww1 unfinished, banker war.
The British were extremely prejudiced.
@Hidden Aspects bro I appreciate if you can share to me some more good source, thanks.
@Hidden Aspects now the stage is Sino vs Js bankers, nah Ukraine thing is part of that bankers war if you know what I means about payment system.
good men are made to go through toughest times which they don't deserve at all.. the fate of this genius was no different‼️hats off to this legend 🙏