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  • @alancooper9632
    @alancooper9632 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    It was a different time back then but he was treated absolutely disgustingly. A true hero who saved so many lives during the war.

  • @Volcano-Man
    @Volcano-Man 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Turing DID NOT BREAK ENIGMA! That had been done in the early 1930's by three Polish mathematicians working in total secrecy. Their names: Marian Rejewski, Rejewski Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Zygalski developed a technique using cardboard cutouts to break the code.
    When war broke out, they escaped via Romania to France and realising that France was in a precarious position, offered their work to the British.
    Realising that the Poles had handed them a solution, it was quickly realised that the process had to be speeded up. Enter Turing who along with a team of mathematicians then developed the mathematics that enabled electro-mechanical methods to be constructed - the Bombes. They 'read' the traffic off teleprinter tape, would over-run, the wheels had to be wound back by hand until the setting was found. Then the actual message could be read, decrypted, translated from German in to English.

    • @will-i-am-not
      @will-i-am-not 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes that's true, they risked their lives and passed the info to France and England, where it eventually ended up at Bletchly park, what he did was build a machine to decipher and read it quickly

    • @carbidegrd1
      @carbidegrd1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, todays computers can solve enigma in seconds, not a year! BS

    • @dogman2387
      @dogman2387 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Actually, Marian Rejewski had already built the first electro-mechanical Bombe machine to break Enigma, but then destroyed it to keep it from the Germans when they invaded Poland. Turing got Rejewski's plans of his original machine and basically just scaled it up to do a lot more in parallel. Also, one of Turing's team mates figured out a way to optimize the machine. I still don't know why Turing seems to get all the credit for this. He was definitely involved, but not the only one.

    • @elizabethmartin4328
      @elizabethmartin4328 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanx so very much for your information. I read the book "The. Ultra Secret." I shall read it again.

    • @MyScubasteve
      @MyScubasteve 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dogman2387 No he didnt Tommy flowers designed and built it!

  • @plunder1956
    @plunder1956 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The work by Bill Tutt was responsible for breaking into the Lorenz Cypher. So Many people had a big impact on the work at Bletchley Park.
    The impact of sophisticated traffic analysis (a development by another team in Hut 8) deserves a whole program. There were many strands to the signals intelligence approach to beating Germany. Together they utter transformed warfare, and shaped the Cold War after WW2.

    • @brianscott5008
      @brianscott5008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gordon Welchman monitored German communications and was able to create elaborate maps of communications between German units. Without reading the message he could determine by the volume of communications if the Germans were about to make any major manoeuvres. Traffic Analysis was born. It was so secret that the CIA shadowed Welchman for years after the war.
      When others began to publish books about the Intelligence Services, Welchman thought about jumping on the bandwagon by writing 'Hut Six'. It didn't go well for Welchman because the CIA were still using his creation.
      I remember the release in the late 1980's of Spycatcher by Peter Wright caused ructions in the intelligence community.
      There is also a documentary on TH-cam about amongst others, Bill Tutte who in the 1980's was pleased to be awarded a certificate for passing a course in word processing (I think) whilst chuckling to himself at the start of the course when the tutor asked if anyone had any computing knowledge. Tommy Flowers may also have been covered in the same documentary.

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes - please do a piece on traffic analysis. This was the key to actually using/validating the ULTRA data.

    • @jonnybottle
      @jonnybottle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bill Tutte sand John Tiltman. broke the Lorenzzusatzgerät.

  • @WJack97224
    @WJack97224 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    The Poles received an Enigma machine by mistake and disassembled it and mapped it and reassembled it and sent it back to Germany. That info was provided to the Brits. Codes were captured by the Brits from a German submarine. So, Turing had a lot of help.

    • @daleburrell6273
      @daleburrell6273 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ...CAN YOU ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE THAT THE ENIGMA CODE WOULD HAVE BEEN BROKEN WITHOUT TURING'S HELP?!
      NOBODY CAN DENY THAT TURING DID A HECK OF A LOT MORE THAN HIS SHARE-(!)

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daleburrell6273 EVERYONE at Bletchley did !

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      WOW honestly ? you dont know there was an Army and Luftwaffe and a Navy version. That it was cracked mostly daily without code books on everything but Shark.
      There were MANY methods used to crack enigma 90 percent was done without any code book. The submarine enigmas were more complicated and harder to crack getting the machine was more important

    • @Volcano-Man
      @Volcano-Man 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daleburrell6273 Absolutely guaranteed. Turing DID NOT BREAK ENIGMA - He and his much ignored team of mathematicians developed the mathematics that enabled engineers to design the circuits that technicians then built, made work and electronically find the key yo the Enigma traffic encryption! 100% provable as the Poles had broken it in thec1930's.

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh stop your pseudo-historical fussing: go read about the British crew THAT WENT ABOARD A RAPIDLY SINKING SUB TO LOOK FOR THE DAMN THING.
      Three Royal Navy sailors boarded an abandoned German submarine (U-559) to retrieve the U-boat's Enigma key setting sheets with all current settings for the U-boat Enigma network; two of them were inside the U-boat, attempting to get out, when it foundered.
      BOTH DROWNED.
      Please don't be trivial about ALL the sacrifice made to break these codes.

  • @GregWampler-xm8hv
    @GregWampler-xm8hv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    First Alan Turing was a Mathematician and Scientist of the 1st Magnitude and clearly did phenomenal work in the pursuit of codebreaking.
    However it was a small group of Poles that did it first in the 30's and included their Enigma decryption machine. Turing took in many levels higher in sophistication but I believe in giving people the credit they're due. I also dislike those who attempt to take credit they didn't earn, often by omission like here.
    Again this is not to take anything away from Alan Turing whom, intellectually speaking, I have the utmost respect for. As far as his private life, that was, or should have been, his business.

    • @daleburrell6273
      @daleburrell6273 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...THE PROBLEM WAS THAT ALAN TURING WAS SUBJECT TO BLACKMAIL- AS WAS SUMNER WELLES!!!
      THAT CAN'T BE IGNORED...(!)

    • @Volcano-Man
      @Volcano-Man 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Turing was NOT a scientist! He was a very clever mathematician; but scientists he was not!

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Historical accuracy is historically accurate. Excellent.

    • @peterlongland6862
      @peterlongland6862 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, however, the breaking of the Enigma code by the Polish meant that the Germans made sure it was way more complicated than the version broken by the Polish.

  • @gonzo_the_great1675
    @gonzo_the_great1675 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    But Turing was not the main driver behind the Colosus. This was Bill Tutte. No mention of him.
    Also the pre-runner of Colosus was an electromechanical machine designed by Max Newman. Tommy Flowers was brought in to improve on this, but he realised that it could be redesigned using totally electronic methods and radically sped up.

  • @emmgeevideo
    @emmgeevideo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    There was no mention in this piece of what was done to keep Germany from realizing that its codes had been broken. Part of the feat was the Germans thinking it was inconceivable that anyone could break Enigma. But the Allies couldn't constantly foil the Germans based on reading their codes or someone would have figured it out.

    • @BrucePerkins-mc3hp
      @BrucePerkins-mc3hp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True. The allies needed to be selective in their use of intelligence derived from enigma

    • @b1r2y3n
      @b1r2y3n 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is only so much that can be covered in less than an hour.

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@b1r2y3n Pfui - write brief paragraphs, edit for concision, then edit the video for time.

  • @georgemcaulay6009
    @georgemcaulay6009 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Imagine what this chap could have achieved if they hadn't hounded him to death. Really his name should be up there amongst the Einstein's and all the best. I've watched shows about Bletchley where he's never mentioned. This is an outstanding article

    • @Volcano-Man
      @Volcano-Man 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What for? He was a mathematician dealing in theoretical mathematics. He developed the mathematics that enabled others to design, and build the electronic circuits for the Bombes.
      Yes without his knowledge the reading of Enigma traffic would have been virtually impossible. But break it he did not! He was also considered to be a security risk because he would vanish away from the usual haunts of those who were at BP. So much so when the decision was made to develop Colossus, he had no input into that machine - which was designed to break the Lorenz code which used 12 rotors.

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Volcano-Man
      As a 40-year vet of the computer industry, I bet Turing and those with him would have saved us about half of the first 20 years of R&D in large-scale data processing technology. The Bletchley bunch and Tommy Flowers who built Colossus met and solved most of the problems in huge-scale real-time data processing BY 1944!!! They were reading paper tape at 60MPH!!!
      Imagine a 1980s computer in early 1960: the huge increase in knowledge and technology from computers in industry, academe, and IN CIVILIAN/CONSUMER HANDS starting 20 years earlier?
      Ha. Oh, wait: they killed him. Or he killed himself cuz he'd had enough of what they'd done to him. Yay, BIGOTRY! [that was satire, OK?]

  • @hond654
    @hond654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Rajewski from Poland broke it. Turing automated it.

    • @michelvondenhoff9673
      @michelvondenhoff9673 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As far as I know it were three Polish mathematicians that cracked the commercially available version. Knowhow was shared with the French and Brits by the Poles just days prior to the war. The militairy version of the Enigma had more rotors (higher encryption).
      A very similar device was made by the Dutch but was rejected in the early 1920's if I remember correctly.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      the 2 were not the same

    • @Michel-r6m
      @Michel-r6m 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​​@@gowdsake7103In 1923 a German (Arthur Scherbius) got the patent in hand of the Dutch Enigma machine patented by Hugo Koch in 1919 ( Enigma O.G.). The only thing that was done later to this machine is increase the level of encription.
      By 1935 the whole of the German army was equiped with these machines. Adjustments to the Enigma were done up till 1944 adding the Uhr.
      The Poles cracked the machine before the war but the added encryption made Turing realize automation was needed in order to decypher more or less in real time.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Michel-r6m The Poles had ALREADY developed a machine Turing developed it The bomba, or bomba kryptologiczna (Polish for "bomb" or "cryptologic bomb"), was a special-purpose machine designed around October 1938 by Polish Cipher Bureau cryptologist Marian Rejewski to break German Enigma-machine cipher

    • @Volcano-Man
      @Volcano-Man 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gowdsake7103 Tbey were using cardboard cutouts not a machine.

  • @jerryavila1
    @jerryavila1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The video is very nice but failed to mention that an enigma like machine was sold commercially much before the war to companies that needed to encrypt corporate messages. It had a polish origin and the 3 poles actually tried to tell the Brits about the possiblities but were ignored.

    • @Michel-r6m
      @Michel-r6m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was a Dutch variant as well prior to Enigma.

  • @michelvondenhoff9673
    @michelvondenhoff9673 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I went to Paris, the war museum to see an Enigma machine. The movie The Imitation Game was due to this...Alan Turing with his team and Polish mathematicians cracked it.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It was a huge team not 1 person

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      HUNDREDS of people were responsible

    • @suminshizzles6951
      @suminshizzles6951 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The poles cracked it first. This is my view as well. It is not really a view, it is history. Wikipedia even backs us up.

  • @thatbeme
    @thatbeme 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I doubt I could ever be trained to know what Turing knew. He needed to be supported by the world. He was special.

  • @PamMullinax-q2c
    @PamMullinax-q2c 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gordon Welchman contributed as much as Turing at Bletchley. Started the process by inventing the concept of traffic analysis and even invented the diagonal board that made Turing's inventions work. At the end of his life, they put him through hell also. He didn't commit suicide , though. They were just two of the many people in their field of operations who never got, nor will they ever get, the recognition that they should have.

  • @Jahwobbly
    @Jahwobbly ปีที่แล้ว +90

    What kind of moral monster needs 70 years to act on an injustice this important. Hah! A posthumous pardon and 70-years late at that. Shameful.

    • @jd.3493
      @jd.3493 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Calm down

    • @locoHAWAIIANkane
      @locoHAWAIIANkane 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Agreed! Totally shameful

    • @stephenhosking7384
      @stephenhosking7384 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      The work at Bletchely Park and everyone involved was kept secret until the mid 1970s. While it was unjust for Turing to be persecuted for homosexuality, no-one involved had any idea of his significance and Turing couldn't tell them. Perhaps the complete blanking out of his war record looked suspicious and even counted against him. He wasn't the only one - Tommy Flowers was not to receive any credit for Colossus until the 1970s, and until then the American ENIAC had the record as the "world's first programmible compouter".

    • @locoHAWAIIANkane
      @locoHAWAIIANkane 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@stephenhosking7384 I understand secrecy was paramount, especially during war time but didn’t people above him know of his work?

    • @stephenhosking7384
      @stephenhosking7384 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@locoHAWAIIANkane Good question!
      Turing, like most staff at Bletchely Park, left in 1945 and moved to other careers and locations, with their record from 1939 to 1945 just a blank. "Involved in cracking Enigma and winning the Battle of the Atlantic" wasn't on anyone's resume. Turing was a lone operator after the war, finding temporary positions in academia - those "above him" would have had no knowledge of his wartime exploits.
      As I pointed out, Tommy Flowers was also unable to get any recognition for Colussus. It was the same for all of them. Very sad for Turing, but not as unjust as it has been often portrayed.

  • @philipgreen6085
    @philipgreen6085 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I work this chap called Frank in the 70s. He was a cook with the merchant navy. he was sung three times took to the lifeboats he he said they stopped their pay as soon as they took to the lifeboats. His mother knew something was wrong when they stopped her allowance from his pay.,

  • @jonss1948
    @jonss1948 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Something I have always been puzzled by: How is it that Station X did not get an inkling of the assembly of forces by the Germans, for the attack that became known as the 'Battle of the Bulge'?

    • @amsmith123
      @amsmith123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I heard the Germans kept radio traffic to a minimum, pity they didn't do this the rest of the time.

    • @andyc3088
      @andyc3088 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amsmith123 if the Germans had done what you wish. Then the war could have gone on longer and killing more people

    • @grahamlait1969
      @grahamlait1969 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Station X did get an inkling, indeed more than an inkling, of what the Germans were up to before the Battle of the Bulge. By that stage of the war, the German High Command no longer trusted that their enigma signals were secure. They had no idea how they were being read but they knew enough simply because of the use the allies had obviously made of German signals. So the Germans stopped all enigma traffic for a week before the Battle of the Bulge began and used it as little as possible even before then. At Bletchley they believed that the Germans were up to something, but didn't know exactly what. My uncle was General Bradley's (commander of the American 12th Army) senior signals intelligence officer and knew not only from Bletchley but from the disappearance of all local German signals that the Germans were, indeed, up to something and he warned Bradley. He never blamed Bradley for ignoring the warnings, which were not specific; they couldn't be. Moreover, by that stage of the war, the overwhelming impression among the allies was that the Germans no longer had the resources to successfully mount any kind of major offensive. In fact, of course, this impression was correct. Let's face it: The Battle of the Bulge was a major defeat for the Germans and ensured that they never again had the resources to mount any kind of worthwhile defence in the west.

    • @jonss1948
      @jonss1948 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for that excellent clarification.@@grahamlait1969

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amsmith123 yes - Wacht Am Rhein orders were hand-deliverd by motorcycle and otherwise. Nazis didn't KNOW their mail was being read, but the ASSUMED so (Gamesmanship 101)
      US HQ disbelieved their own G2 and got screwed, especially by the large panzers in the woods...

  • @bobsmith3560
    @bobsmith3560 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hordes of soldiers and materials beat the Germans. Hitler's enemies had access to 90% of the world 's manpower and resources. A monopoly on nuclear weapons did not hurt either. The outcome was never in doubt.

    • @jennifersun2638
      @jennifersun2638 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The first bombs were intended to be used in Germany actually but Hitler committed suicide

    • @allegrobrio968
      @allegrobrio968 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think anyone is suggesting that the outcome was in doubt. Rather, the efforts of Alan Turing and the team at Bletchley Park hastened the timing of that outcome.

  • @lighthousephotographybandera
    @lighthousephotographybandera 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I wanted to watch a video on the enigma machine, but this is more like a Turing worship video.
    Fun fact: The Polish had already cracked the Enigma code years before Turing. The Germans kept rebuilding their Enigma machines and changing how they used them, but by the time Turing showed up, the Polish turned over 10 YEARS of notes and work to Turing. He didn't start from scratch.
    And the machine Turing built wasn't "his machine" - that machine was designed and built by the Polish. Turing merely upgraded it.
    In fact, the Polish had sent one of those 'Bombe' machines to France along with Enigma machines and their ciphers YEARS before Turing showed up.
    The movie "imitation game" is a joke that basically tries to make Turing into a demigod. The history in that movie is so perverted that anyone who watches it will have a twisted idea of what actually happened.
    This video is like the movie. Over selling Turing and leaving out tons of real historical facts to try and make Turing into a super hero or something. Get real.
    Real historians know that the "theory that saved WWII" wasn't written by Turing. I'm not giving that one away - do your homework and learn the real history instead of this rubbish.

    • @kasiorbasior8494
      @kasiorbasior8494 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep. Soviets write their history, so Brits do. The first casualty when ego comes is truth.

  • @johnvaleanbaily246
    @johnvaleanbaily246 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tommy Flower's never did get the recognition he so richly deserved.

  • @StevenSiew2
    @StevenSiew2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Turing's secret machine is DA BOMBE!!!!!!!

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      S'il vous plaît, Monsieur: LA bombe.
      Merci boucoup, mon vieil ami.
      !!Vive l'alliance Franco-Britannique!!

  • @andrewmorton9327
    @andrewmorton9327 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Every time she says 'English' read 'British'.

  • @eddiec4536
    @eddiec4536 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Fantastic history shown here. Thank you England. Thank you for sharing this amazing history.

    • @paulstewart6293
      @paulstewart6293 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes I get the impression that the English think Britain is England. The Scots or Welsh don't make that colonial "error". The English still think they run the world.

    • @iriscollins7583
      @iriscollins7583 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@user-ky5dy5hl4dThey did not crack the code.

    • @kjellg6532
      @kjellg6532 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @user-ky5dy5hl4d Yes, and no. I fully agree that the poles wre in the forfront, but what dis 9000 pepole at Bletschley do? They had to brake the Enigma over and over again, every day a new Enigma day, a new setting to be found. Let’s agree that braking Enigma was a joint effort by the Poles, Turing with his inner circle and all the other workers at Bletchley. Together they broke the Enigma.

  • @BenJamin-tx7ol
    @BenJamin-tx7ol หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember way back in the 60's ? Hearing that when M I 5 opened their new headquaters in London they naturally had a huge quantity of left over, and archived equipment to dispose of in their old building, all of which was archived by the year it was acquired, I heard that when they reached the 1938 'bin' they discovered a band new Enigma Machine that had been bought at a German tradefair by a British business man/occasional agent, who saw it advertised às a way to send secure messages among business partners etc, and it was advertised 'As used by the German Army', the chap bought one, took it back to England, handed it to his Chief, explained what it was etc, the Chief with typical British elan, thanked him kindly, assured he would pass it on etc, and it was shoved in the archive and forgotten about till they closed the building.
    I cannot swear to the veracity of this story, but it wouldnt surprise me in the least !
    It would be classically British !

  • @stephenhardy312
    @stephenhardy312 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The problem of the relationship between 'thought' and "matter" dates back through Descartes in the 17th century and back to Ancient Greece; long before Turing's time.

    • @Ken-ck6cz
      @Ken-ck6cz ปีที่แล้ว

      He ' thought ' he could like male butts it did ' matter '😂😂

  • @Dragonblaster1
    @Dragonblaster1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Turing was not instrumental l in cracking Enigma. However, with his bombe invention, he automated and speeded it up.

  • @gowdsake7103
    @gowdsake7103 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    To say that Turing cracked enigma as tho it was just him is a gross overstatement

    • @Volcano-Man
      @Volcano-Man 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And also Totally 1000% (sic) wrong. He was a mathematician and dealt with theoretical mathematics. He was asked to develop the mathematics tbat enable electronic engineers to design and build the electrical circuits that were needed to operate the Bombes!

  • @zdeneksmietana1126
    @zdeneksmietana1126 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Poles brake enigma and when WW2 started handed over their work to French and British so Turing work was based on their work. Read about Marian Rejewski

  • @sharplessguy
    @sharplessguy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel a sense of Kinship for Turing in that after having suffered a stroke I can no longer maintain focus/concentration as I once was able. My loss of memory/mental acuity is devastating to me. I cannot speak for him, but it must have been an unimaginable blow

  • @paulfletcher-yi2ji
    @paulfletcher-yi2ji ปีที่แล้ว +20

    And never forget his love for his school boy love Christopher,who he named his computer after POOR MAN😢

    • @andrewmorton9327
      @andrewmorton9327 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, he didn't. That was dreamed up by the movie makers.

    • @harryricochet8134
      @harryricochet8134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, because his sexual orientation was so relevant to his achievements unlike the one-dimensional crotch centric degenerates of today. Not.

    • @bhineshwartidke4249
      @bhineshwartidke4249 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@andrewmorton9327 yep, but why would they do so?

    • @andrewmorton9327
      @andrewmorton9327 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bhineshwartidke4249 To improve the story.

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bhineshwartidke4249 DUH Because HOLLYWOOD.
      "When the facts and the myth conflict, print the myth." - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (a HOLLYWOOD movie)

  • @prizecowproductions
    @prizecowproductions ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Typical of British Government of the day. This man through his actions and mind at a casual estimate probably saved half a million serviceman.
    Aussie Jeff Moore

    • @johnfox2483
      @johnfox2483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's not a "British Government". Enigma cracking was a very top secret even after a war. So a civil court, nor the Police didn't knew they caught a "war hero". And probably his section was disbanded, he had no further protection from military Intelligence.

    • @sirderam1
      @sirderam1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well, not the most accurate documentary. No mention that the Poles had already broken the Enigma cypher as early as 1934. Nor any mention that the codebreaking device, the Bombe, was invented by the Poles, not by Turing. He AND his team certainly developed and improved on the Polish method but he didn't invent it. No one at Bletchley was recognised for their work after the war, it was still considered far too secret. Neither Bill Tutte, who reverse engineered the Lorenz machine without ever having seen one, or Tommy Flowers, who built the Colossus computer, were honoured for their work either - although what they did was every bit as important as Turing's contribution.

  • @paulhugo2180
    @paulhugo2180 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loads of code breakers in Poland and England could crack the code given enough time (which they didn't have). Turing's computer broke the codes before they were changed consistently over and over.

    • @mikeryan3701
      @mikeryan3701 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Turing's computer??????

  • @GregWampler-xm8hv
    @GregWampler-xm8hv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    OK a few words mentioning the Poles. I know this is Alan Turing's "show" but maybe 2 sentences on the Poles.

    • @harryricochet8134
      @harryricochet8134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope sorry, this video is a rainbow mafia revisionist production, truth doesn't matter.

  • @YogicBarrister
    @YogicBarrister 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you 🙏

  •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More than math, the learning of the mistakes which the German radio telegram composers made, allowed the Enigma codes to be broken. Using girl friends names, always signing Heil Hitler in certain spots. Turings machine was by itself was borderline useful.

  • @stephenhardy312
    @stephenhardy312 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's 'admiralty', not 'admirality'!

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How admiriable of you to notice.
      Signed,
      The Captain of the King's Navy.

  • @Sabotage_Labs
    @Sabotage_Labs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What the UK government did Turning, after the war, is one of those just horrifying stories that is unimaginable!!!
    Now, the other part of this story that just fascinates me is this.
    Turing and his team cracked the enigma code, which in its own rights is beyond all comprehension. Even if you're a world class mathematician it's amazing. The man came up with a machine and built it... In so little time... Unlike any that had ever been made just from the inspiration of his own mind. Yet, after achieving this unthinkable accomplishment, being able to read the enemies coded messages was one thing. The other part that had be considered...and just horrible decisions had to be made... To make sure not to use the information to often or to obviously... Or the enemy would figure it out, change the code process and make this miracle useless.
    This means, people had information and knew their countrymen could and would die...but had to pretend like they didn't know. Worse...they had to do this for years!!!
    Imagine that your job every day...to have this information and choose literally who might live and who would die....for the greater cause! I couldn't imagine a more real life hell ..than that! You know cracking this code could and would likely win the war...but only maybe years earlier as opposed to say....in a few months. What a hell to suffer!
    The last thing about this story is... How much has the advancement of human kind been put behind, due to losing the one of a kind mind like Turing's. It was like a modern destruction of the Library of Alexandria! And all because... Of who he chose to sleep with.
    I've made this point to a few friends over the years when they talked about fighting for gay rights, in our time. I tell them this story and suggest they have some perspective and maybe realize what their life is today, compared to Alan Turing and what was done to him! One of the greatest minds not only of his time, but of all time!

  • @peterlongland6862
    @peterlongland6862 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stephen Fry was interviewing Steve Jobs and asked him regarding the Apple logo and Alan Turing being poisoned by a half eaten apple. Job's reply was that he only wished it had been the inspiration for the logo but it wasn't. The Apple logo having a bite out of it was so it wouldn't be confused with another fruit such as a cherry. So there is no relationship between the "way"Turing died and the Apple logo, its was pure coincidence.

  • @millaheska3351
    @millaheska3351 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Already by 1932, Polish mathematicians Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Zygalski (plus a team of volunteers) from the University in Poznan (then Prussia) had broken the Enigma code and built the decrypting machines, which they called 'bomba". Yes, it means a bomb. Problem was, that by 1938 Germans realised that someone was "reading" their messages. So, just in case, they modernised Enigmas by adding more combinations on it. And for this, new more powerful machines were necessary. The Poles didn't have anymore sources to build it, so went on looking for help. The British didn't want to hear about helping, as they were more busy seeking appeasement with Hitler, apparently. Eventually, when it all came down to Turing, it was more convenient not to mention that the job was actually done earlier, as British "government" might need to admit that they refused to support their allies (the French were involved, too) in fighting the enemy..?
    So Alan Turing indeed was doing a job already done by someone else. Cool, but what was the point of discovering the wheel, once it been already discovered?? Waste of time, waste of lives. The Polish only lacked more efficient machine, that's all that needed to be done.
    Shame that you don't learn the history facts first

  • @radoxme8426
    @radoxme8426 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always was kind to the quiet maths geniuses at Shrewsbury. Not like in the imitation game movie where he was nailed into the floor. I was told one was so able he could have gone to Cambridge at 13. Just marking time for five years!

  • @douglasskaalrud6865
    @douglasskaalrud6865 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In the comments there’s too much “We too!” that isn’t documented and thus not provable. If you think the poles or the French did it first, where’s your proof? Cite your sources of information.

  • @leonardwalton6668
    @leonardwalton6668 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He looks like BRAINS on The Thunderbirds!

  • @stevejessemey8428
    @stevejessemey8428 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you imagine having Alan Turing, Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, Ramanujan, and Robert Oppenheimer all together in one room working together as a Team.

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No: Tesla was nutz by the 40s, really nutz; Turing would be dead; Einstein would have been fomenting against the (obvious) success of quantum physics; after the mid 50s Oppenheimer would have been in the political and professional exclusion zone created by Teller and the powermad in DC.
      Ram might have given it a shot, but alone? And that assumes the Brits would have let him out of India.
      I HATE counterfactuals, can you see why now?

    • @stevenvanhulle7242
      @stevenvanhulle7242 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ramanujan? Working together? He was exceptionally talented, but he would be useless in the team: didn't know where he got his insights, and didn't care about proofs.

  • @Ro-gw1wn
    @Ro-gw1wn ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No mention of Arthur Scherbius the creator of enigma.

    • @jackbov123
      @jackbov123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Arthur Scherbius

  • @evanherk
    @evanherk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Romantic exaggeration posthumously fixates on Alan Turing. He was an undoubted genius, but he did not break enigma.

  • @jamesengland9283
    @jamesengland9283 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So does that mean the film “imitation game” is inaccurate as it suggests “colossus” was created to break enigma not the new Tuna machine. Or have I got that wrong??

  • @roberthuff3122
    @roberthuff3122 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Checkout the breaking of the German Lorenz code by Tiltman and Tutte. Easily more magical than the Enigma and Turing.

  • @MrMRW14
    @MrMRW14 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a disgraceful injustice. Shameful beyond belief

  • @operation1968
    @operation1968 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not a mathanatian, but I'd wager a guess that the reason why Alan attacked that math problem he learned about in university head on, was because learning all the basic background material for that would make people fundamentally biased in a way. Bined by the rules you would have studied in said material. Having not done that could have given him more 'thinking freedom' so to speak 🤔

  • @MyScubasteve
    @MyScubasteve 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He didnt even design or build the machine! Tommy Flowers should have been named father of the computer.

  • @SmokeTheHolyChalice
    @SmokeTheHolyChalice หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is how we treat those that give of themselves for the betterment of humanity. We are a broken species.

  • @Kalder5
    @Kalder5 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The British broke the code of Lorenz's machine (geheimschreiber). It was a great success. Why do they boast about breaking the Enigma that the Poles had broken?

  • @peterreston6478
    @peterreston6478 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The greatest hero and he was put down by prejudice and bigotry.

  • @mikedonnarumma5337
    @mikedonnarumma5337 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    how disgusting and paranoid were the authorities

  • @viswanathanseshadri1047
    @viswanathanseshadri1047 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How did the Germans (and the Japanese) not realise that their codes had been broken?

    • @donglenphillip8887
      @donglenphillip8887 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Donitz eventually pulled all the U boats from the Atlantic, after several U boats were sunk
      He suspected that the code was broken.

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@donglenphillip8887
      Allies made VERY selective use of Enigma/Ultra info and went to great lengths to hide it and, when used, to have cover stories for why Allies knew what was up.

    • @mikeryan3701
      @mikeryan3701 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@donglenphillip8887 "several"??? It was a lot more than "several". Donitz knew the game was up. He realised that the Allies had the ability to destroy too many of his submarines. Nothing to do with suspecting the code was broken.

  • @berniefynn6623
    @berniefynn6623 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Watson developing the radar was more deserving of praise, turing being homosexual makes him famous, a Navel officer worked out how the Uboats were sinking so many ships of convoys, changes made due to him saw the mostly elimination of the uboats

  • @Sabotage_Labs
    @Sabotage_Labs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If only Alan was a royal or a member of the house of lords, he probably would have had a much longer life.

  • @bradunruh9188
    @bradunruh9188 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One interesting note, several people in high levels were said to be homosexual in years following wwll. They either were jailed long time or suspicious death.

    • @F_Tim1961
      @F_Tim1961 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      or skived off to Russia and drank vodka and were paired off with birds of the same feather .. never to return to old Blighty.

  •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mathematics needed what English non-mathematicians called a "CRIB" to break Enigma. Only when the mistakes of the German message composers were noted by NON-MATHEMATICIANS was the Enigma broken.

  • @splatten8597
    @splatten8597 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Typical governments. This is how they treat people

  • @jamesowens2287
    @jamesowens2287 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the Irishman. Richard Hayes who cracked a code that Turing and all the others could not.

  • @Frederick-in2rz
    @Frederick-in2rz หลายเดือนก่อน

    was he not just a thinker, That could take an idea and a thought and follow it through to it's inevitable logical end? he was really as sharp as was Einstein. never a braggart or arrogant with it.

  • @willhicks2259
    @willhicks2259 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, they've ruined TH-cam with temu ads

  • @bruce92106
    @bruce92106 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of UKs biggest shames is what they did to Mr Turing! Just a flat out travesty. Tsk! 🙄😕😠

  • @zygmuntaugustyniak
    @zygmuntaugustyniak หลายเดือนก่อน

    Turing did not break Enigma , Three Polish cod breakers did it way before him.

  • @brunosmith6925
    @brunosmith6925 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good programme... pity that the narrator talks to us like we are in kindergarten.

  • @reinhard7572
    @reinhard7572 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Minor correction. The Soviets beat Germany. Fact.

  • @TonyFarley-gi2cv
    @TonyFarley-gi2cv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The question is did it beat Hitler or did it pull his radio out and start trying to correct his stuff over into yours

  • @grazynazambeanie5963
    @grazynazambeanie5963 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did Tunning and Flowers ever come up with thier ideas

  • @grazynazambeanie5963
    @grazynazambeanie5963 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But,but who made the bombs . Some post office man ? Who was Flowers ?

  • @andrzejpopowski7745
    @andrzejpopowski7745 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its not true. Polish matematicians Zygalski, Rejewski and Rozycki broke the Enigma code. Turing only improved the process of decoding it. In fact, Turing didn't find any internal of Enigma, so how could he crack it ?

  • @lesart3446
    @lesart3446 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I heard that the Americans made a film claiming they captured and broke the code.😂

    • @michaelmcgovern8110
      @michaelmcgovern8110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it's a Hollywood biopic, go read the primary sources instead.
      TRUST me.

    • @stevenvanhulle7242
      @stevenvanhulle7242 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wouldn't surprise me at all. There are also lots of USAmericans who believe they -- single-handedly -- won WW II.

  • @grazynazambeanie5963
    @grazynazambeanie5963 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can only judge a deed by the laws in place at the time of the deed . Are we so much morally advanced?

  • @tonyclifton265
    @tonyclifton265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This narrator cant pronounce words properly. "Admirality" [35:47 ] for admiralty. and stressing the second syllable of Dönitz, not the first. please learn to read aloud before doing narration. Her prosody is bad too, generally stressing the wrong word in a sentence or phrase

    • @tonyclifton265
      @tonyclifton265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@573lbt yeah could be that. no human could be so sh1t.

    • @Mabinogion
      @Mabinogion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Half way through, I began to wonder if the audio was computer-generated.

  • @kyleethekelt
    @kyleethekelt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't believe they've said that Turing invented Enigma. In fact, they said he had never seen an enigma machine but worked it out to the tiniest detail. He had the mind and the talent to take the tool and deploy it in a unique way. Many inventions are founded on the work of others. Would Braille have been invented without Barbier's work, for instance? What great achievement is ever made alone? It makes no sense to me to destroy a gift because you don't like the package, regardless of the foibles of the day.
    And that's the cost of bigotry right there. Nice vid. But ... are you using an AI voiceover? She mispronounced admiralty in a strange way.

    • @Michel-r6m
      @Michel-r6m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Turing was decoding Enigma. There was an even earlier Dutch version of Enigma that did not make it. The original Enigma was meant as a commercial decoder and found purpose in military later on and was further developed with a higher level of encryption.

  • @barracuda7018
    @barracuda7018 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Polish Jews cracked the Enigma.....

  • @mikewilliams4438
    @mikewilliams4438 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is she saying, 'summerine'?😊

  • @lenwilkinson672
    @lenwilkinson672 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ala n Turin. = a genious whose country’s establishment shit on him. Their gratitude to him for what he did for his country and people..

  • @mnblkjh6757
    @mnblkjh6757 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why didn’t the allies know about Germany’s winter attack plan that lead to battle of the bulge

    • @railwaymechanicalengineer4587
      @railwaymechanicalengineer4587 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We did !!! But maybe we "forgot" to tell the Americans !!! The problem again involved "Friction" between Montgomery (British Army) & Patton (U.S Army). Clearly Eisenhower putting Montgomery in charge of certain U.S. Regiments, became an issue. That didn't pan out well when the German attack revealed itself to be MUCH stronger that anyone could have imagined, even though we knew such an attack was definitely in the making.
      Indeed the Allies blundered, at least down on the ground, because they were already busy convincing themselves the Germans were incapable of launching any further serious attacks !!!!

    • @stephenhosking7384
      @stephenhosking7384 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great question!

    • @cowsy99
      @cowsy99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great answer as well!

  • @chrismac2234
    @chrismac2234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gordon Welchman. Still written out of history. They've given recognition to a gay autistic man. But Gordon wrote his memoir and told the truth. That will never be forgiven.

    • @harryricochet8134
      @harryricochet8134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now, now, Turing has a double minority platinum victimhood card, don't you know that gives his rainbow mafia followers the right to rewrite history?

  • @bella__2336
    @bella__2336 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was actually the poles who cracked the code!

  • @johnmay7774
    @johnmay7774 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ......shockingly unjust

  • @stephenwright8824
    @stephenwright8824 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This sounds like the same AI bot which did the narration on another video about Mr Turing. Do all Zoomers hate the man that much? AI and text to speech narration is cowardly anyway. It's an insult to the memory of Turing.
    (And I'm not even a Brit.)

  • @kasiorbasior8494
    @kasiorbasior8494 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Soviets write their history, so Brits do. The first casualty when ego comes is truth.

  • @carbidegrd1
    @carbidegrd1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No good deed goes unpunished.

  • @krukpolny8505
    @krukpolny8505 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Enigma Poland 1932. TH-cam.

  • @jaywinters2483
    @jaywinters2483 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yea,....but I'll bet ya nobody there could have helped me understand my woman.

  • @pistolannie6500
    @pistolannie6500 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He commited sucd @ 41, I believe...not 43

  • @jkajje2945
    @jkajje2945 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a teamwork NOT the work of one man But he was smart oh yes

  • @markgarrett8963
    @markgarrett8963 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    could only stand half of this is that even a human mispronouncing this sloppy script

  • @mahkhi7154
    @mahkhi7154 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YOU CAN MAKE COMPUTER LANGUAGES TO BE DECLARATIVE FROM IMPERATIVE.
    HOWEVER, THAT LANGUAGE WOULD BE VERY LARGE.
    IMPERATIVE LANGUAGE = SMALL LANGUAGE, THAT CAN DO ANYTHING.
    DECLARATIVE = LARGE LANGUAGE, CAN ONLY DO A SUBSET OF REAL WORLD PROBLEMS. LANGUAGE NEEDS FURTHER EXTENDING TO CONQUER MORE PROBLEMS.

  • @fernandocortes1187
    @fernandocortes1187 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    34:00 patrón

  • @amseek94
    @amseek94 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wasaaaaaaaaaaaaasaay too many ads. Removing channel

  • @colinwilcox4266
    @colinwilcox4266 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yet no mention of Gordon Welchman or Tommy Flowers, disgraceful. Lucky enough to meet Mr Flowers in the late 80s, but sadly not Gordon Welchman

  • @jozefwijas1565
    @jozefwijas1565 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not to disregard the achievement of Turing who basically built the decoding machines. In other words, Turing built a computing machines which made possible to decode plenty of messages and quickly. Otherwise, if the messages would be decoded in a few days the messages would be irrelevant.... However, please note that the mathematical formulas and decoding methods manually by people were developed by Polish military intelligence and hired most talented Polish mathematicians in early 1930's. However, just month or two before the breakup of the II WW all 5he knowledge was presented to the French and British military intelligence... So please stop using your silly British propaganda that it is Britain who broke the Enigma... because it is a simple lie...

  • @paulzellman9632
    @paulzellman9632 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the Allied solders in 1944 would foresee the EU and US in 2024 the Allied soldiers n 1944 would likrly not fight for the political mess in the West in 2024.

  • @briancooper2112
    @briancooper2112 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He killed himself.

  • @philiphorner31
    @philiphorner31 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gee today it's 💩 Tin rants heard all over Europe

  • @MrBothandNether
    @MrBothandNether 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Polish broke enigma first
    Go read a history book

  • @Aspectus
    @Aspectus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But math is racist 😂😂😂

  • @graywz
    @graywz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate automated synthetic voice translations. This is horrible to listen to. Pronoucing "Admir-al-ity" instead of "Ad-mi-rilty" for Admiralty.