Glock 19 is Dead?... Echelon 4.0C - 500 Round Review

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  • @SplashOfOrange
    @SplashOfOrange 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    The real "Glock Killer" to me... has been Glock themselves... by simply failing to keep up. Glock did us all a great favor by opening the door to reliable polymer handguns -- I won't take that away from them -- but now Glocks themselves are increasingly relics of the past; A legendary past, but the past nonetheless.

    • @MustyFighter
      @MustyFighter 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Great take !! a lot of these new pistols are just as reliable as the glock and offer a lot more out the box. Glocks are still great pistols, but why spend 700 on a glock mos and another 300-600 just to get it to the level of an echelon, pdp, shadow systems etc

    • @SplashOfOrange
      @SplashOfOrange 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MustyFighter good point about reliability, I meant to mention that. Proven reliability is pretty much the last feather in Glock's cap. It's an important feather -- reliability is king -- but as the new guns establish their own pedigrees that feather will be increasingly less unique until Glock simply no longer stands out at all. I have nothing against Glocks -- nothing at all -- just exactly what you said about overall value.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Truth Glock is “shooting themselves in the foot” lol😂

    • @Stu23Kat
      @Stu23Kat 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      For regular people who don't have the time or money to test reliability, work out kinks, and correspond with customer service, it's going to take more than the words "Glock killer." (There's literally no need to get disrespectful)

    • @ThomasSimmons-j9l
      @ThomasSimmons-j9l 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My Glocks are not for sale. ​@@1stShotTactical

  • @stevestuck107
    @stevestuck107 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    We're all gonna go out and buy this and then the very next day they'll release the comp version lol either way can't wait to pick this bad boy up!

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂facts!!!

    • @ColonelCarnage
      @ColonelCarnage 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ll just get the compact grip module and carry it like that lol

    • @ANDY_LAF
      @ANDY_LAF วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@1stShotTactical That's my only worry haha. I wanna get the S&W carry Comp, but I would prefer this compact and comped for sure

  • @EdwinC83
    @EdwinC83 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The best review so far out of all the videos I seen 👍🏽

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Appreciate the comment and support!🙏

  • @RandyWittmann
    @RandyWittmann 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video! The best one i have seen with all the comaprisons with the different sized pistols

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the comment and support!🙏

  • @TheGunGuy77
    @TheGunGuy77 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Can somebody please tell Springfield we just want to be able to purchase the ported slides and barrel.. ya know? For the OH echelons

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂

    • @thatboygerv
      @thatboygerv 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bro I said the same thing for the hellcat pro. Got tired of waiting and Sent it to Floyd Custom to get mines ported and brought an overwatch precision trigger.

    • @dmills7812
      @dmills7812 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There will never be a glock 19 killer stop with the dumb shit 🥴

    • @damagedgoods62
      @damagedgoods62 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been saying that too...and for them to sell slides with cuts for optics that fit all their XDM lines. I have a 3.8 and a 4.5 that have I've had for 20 years...and they could sell a TON of them to retrofit their old models. Since the Echelon was released I've been hoping for a 4.0 and also a full size frame module to mount it on so it's like their 3.8 XD or the Glock 19x. I've sent emails to Springfield over the years and never a reply. The Echelon was a great start and I've decided I'd like to have one when they have the full size grip for the 4". However I still wish they'd make those optic cut slides for the XDM series.

    • @Gheymfag
      @Gheymfag วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheGunGuy77 Springfield doesn’t care about your opinions. They’ve proven that over the years. It about the $. What good is modularity if the platform isn’t supported by the manufacturer.

  • @joelwilliams6035
    @joelwilliams6035 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    According to the website. The 4.0c will have a version with a threaded barrel. So we could put a Harrington Arms comp on it potentially.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the comment that’s awesome news!🤘

    • @coreyschmidt734
      @coreyschmidt734 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Threaded barrel is available on the website. Separately or with the pistol. 🎉

  • @jlvelez70
    @jlvelez70 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I have the 4.5" and love it... this review might push me over the edge and get the smaller version - Oh that staché though 👌

  • @splaatsetshawty
    @splaatsetshawty 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Can’t call it a Glock 19 killer when in comparison the Echelon is still fairly new and haven’t been battle tested as long as the OG G19

    • @driftitlikeyouownit
      @driftitlikeyouownit 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The echelon has been tested plenty with plenty of rounds. Just search on yt...it's better than a glock

  • @warweaponx6629
    @warweaponx6629 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It’s amazing how many times people have claimed a new pistol is the “Glock killer” yet their is still really no comparison

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Facts! Every company’s new gun is a “Glock killer”😂

  • @jaredrfrancis
    @jaredrfrancis วันที่ผ่านมา

    Appreciate! the Hellcat Pro Comp comparison. I'm purchasing my first pistol, and had been leaning towards the HCP Comp. This probably changed my mind

  • @CyclingAddiction
    @CyclingAddiction 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am currently testing a Shadow Systems CR920XP. You mention the potential of a comped or ported barrel version for the Echelon. I will probably wait to see if that happens. That would be the version that interests me. Great review & now subscribed.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the comment! And yes I’m looking forward to a ported or comped version as well!🤘

  • @TheRancor53
    @TheRancor53 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If more LEO agencies adopt stuff like the Echelon, P10c, PDP, then maybe Glock will fade, but departments are so locked in based on parts available and armorer training- private market is definitely moving on though. A Gen 6 Glock with all these features but Glock internals and slightly improved yet duty grade trigger would take the top spot again though.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed! I’m curious to see if more LEO adopt the echelon or stick with glocks

    • @TheRancor53
      @TheRancor53 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ thanks for really going into the trigger here too based on that alone Id probably skip this one even though the features are very impressive

  • @DavidBrown-wo9ip
    @DavidBrown-wo9ip 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Oh G-d! I’ve seen a lot of “Glock Killas” come and go over the years. The list is long, and in quite a few examples NOT prestigious. That said the Echelon C appears to be a very innovative alternative.😎✌️

    • @believein1
      @believein1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What do you find innovative about it?

  • @Brix7-08
    @Brix7-08 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:57 Hilton Yam from 10-8 Performance had some great info on his review about the full size mag over insertion issue. Basically said he thinks it would be possible to damage the ejector within the COG if a full size mag were over inserted hard enough into the compact frame. Not a good situation as the COG is the serialized “firearm” part of this pistol. Great info in your review though, enjoyed watching it.

  • @SplashOfOrange
    @SplashOfOrange 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    9:36 -- This is exactly what I was wondering, if I could put my 4.5F slide on the compact grip module -- I have two 4.5F Echelons and seeing this proof of concept I could essentially convert one of them to an Echelon 4.5Fc for reduced printing or even go with the 5.28" threaded barrel to make it a 4.5Fc+! This is awesome, I feel like like this opens the doors for the Echelon modular ecosystem to really expand... I think there are many people like me who envisioned the "compact" Echelon to be pretty much just a reduced-printing (shorter) grip module and with corresponding magazines. If I knew what I was doing I would totally be drawing up plans for exactly that now that SA has made the physically smaller magazines a reality but left a gap in the grip module lineup.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed! I really enjoyed swapping the parts around… opens the door to a bunch of customization in the future!

  • @WillTilghman
    @WillTilghman 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    So how many pistols have come along in last 15 years, each claiming to be the Glock 19 killer, but have since faded?

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Very true! Time will tell with this one. I’m interested to see if and law enforcement agencies adopt this. Thanks for watching!🙏

    • @driftitlikeyouownit
      @driftitlikeyouownit 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Absolutely none of them.have faded. The word "faded" would mean they do not sell or exist anymore and all of them do.

    • @believein1
      @believein1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@driftitlikeyouownitThe models actually have faded away, hence the constant attempts to try and match Glock when they come out with a new model.

    • @DaveF-m6n
      @DaveF-m6n 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@driftitlikeyouownitSpringfield XD series comes to mind. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @atranimecs
      @atranimecs 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The optics mounting system alone on this kicks glock to the curb.

  • @jplumb5591
    @jplumb5591 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice to see you include the hellcat pro comp for comparison. I think if you already have the hellcat pro comp, no need to run out and buy the echelon compact specifically. Maybe the full size . With the cog set up there are many possibilities. Aftermarket is getting better for them too

  • @pauldvorsky1969
    @pauldvorsky1969 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have 4 Echelons and going to go get the comped now.

  • @dman31804
    @dman31804 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Just in time for Christmas.

  • @slowmo6518
    @slowmo6518 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have two smaller Glocks but want a full size. Thanks for posting! After about 3 weeks of researching, i was leaning towards an Echelon but after watching this vid i have to keep it Glock. Although the 19 is not technically a full size i’m sure now that’s the path of least resistance for me imho.

  • @believein1
    @believein1 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think "pointability" is a very underrated characteristic. The Echelon 4C points well, as compared to a more blocky shaped front gun like the Hellcat. Even with a comp, the styling of the Hellcat with comp still isn't as easy to point with compared to the Echelon 4C. It's why Glock did all the beveling on the front of all the Gen 5 models.

  • @JonFox-t5x
    @JonFox-t5x วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My full size Echelon has a 4 1/2 pound trigger. No problems with the slide lock back after 750 rounds.

  • @DPham1
    @DPham1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Couldn't you upgrade the Echelon's trigger return spring with something a bit stronger to get a more positive reset?

  • @214Gen5DJ
    @214Gen5DJ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gonna try and wait for them to make the comp version of the compact before I cop, I know it’s coming

  • @Papawsaurus
    @Papawsaurus 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Glock 24/7 365.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Still a solid choice 🤘

    • @believein1
      @believein1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s how they run.

  • @hblegal8309
    @hblegal8309 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good review. In my world and option, I count a "no lockback as a failure." The gun looks great and promising. It has good value and great looks!

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks for the comment! Some people say my high grip causes the slide lock not happening. So it could be user error

    • @hblegal8309
      @hblegal8309 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@1stShotTactical Thanks for the update.

    • @Evan.Harvey6
      @Evan.Harvey6 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have the full size echelon and that was happening to me. My grip was way to high and my thumb was riding the corner of the slide release

    • @hblegal8309
      @hblegal8309 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Evan.Harvey6 Thanks for the feedback!

    • @Evan.Harvey6
      @Evan.Harvey6 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hblegal8309 no problem. A manufacturer would also consider that a malfunction and I don’t think they would sell them if they were having problems. I think it’s 99% user error just like how people were having the base plates come off…they weren’t installed right.

  • @TannerD-nj4cv
    @TannerD-nj4cv 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’ll take an Echelon over a Glock for many reasons. But for the Compact model I’ll wait till they drop the Comp model.

  • @pauldvorsky1969
    @pauldvorsky1969 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Springfield Armory is a Leader in the Industry

  • @KT-xf8yl
    @KT-xf8yl 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How are you holding the gun? The “malfunction” you are talking about with the slide not locking back on the last shot could be due to your grip style. You could be pressing on the slide release and not know it. A lot of novice shooters will use the slide release as a gas pedal. There are a few videos on this on TH-cam.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I do keep a high support hand grip that could cause this. But I reached out to other reviewers and they had the same issue with the slide not locking back sometimes👍

  • @spacelord7795
    @spacelord7795 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Glock has a lot of catching up to do, especially when Springfield Armory is outclassing them!

    • @staxxganghundo2221
      @staxxganghundo2221 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah no 😂

    • @MH-nu4ip
      @MH-nu4ip 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@staxxganghundo2221 sheeeeit bruh, cmon bruh glawk wit tha stendo goat bruh. Don't you have some brothas to pop instead of commenting on stuff you don't know anything about? cuh

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🙌🙌

  • @believein1
    @believein1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It’s like Ford saying they’re finally are better than Mercedes. No.
    The fact that US gunmakers borrow heavily from foreign companies, yet complaint about “IP theft” is a whole different topic, but it’s safe to say that innovation isn’t coming from US companies, and folks in Belgium and Germany will have something better soon.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂😂

    • @bigbreno7
      @bigbreno7 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But, these are made by HS Produkt in Croatia. It’s almost like you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • @believein1
      @believein1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bigbreno7Springfield Armory was founded in 1777 in the United States, and have a PARTNERSHIP with HS.
      If you don’t see the American styling cues and overall engineering, youre the one who literally doesn’t know what you’re taking about.
      Not even trying to guess what country you’re from, but it’s clearly not the US. The styling from the US is pretty obvious, as is Eastern European and German/Belgian. They’re like pretty much any regional brand for any international industry. Cars, clothes, furniture, etc. Take care.

    • @believein1
      @believein1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bigbreno7 Some Hondas are manufactured in Mexico. Are they Mexican cars?

  • @ChristianEspitia23
    @ChristianEspitia23 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Will the 18 echelon 4.0c magazine work in the full size echelon?

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Unfortunately They do not!

    • @antoniodelgado7229
      @antoniodelgado7229 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      No, and why would they? It's made for a compact frame.

  • @elijahray9792
    @elijahray9792 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which one do you prefer the full size or 4.0c? Besides the 1/2 inch in length and a bit thinner. Is it worth to purchase the 4.0 if I have the full size?

    • @ericlenertz6967
      @ericlenertz6967 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Get the Hellcat Pro Man. I was trying to justify getting the 4.0c but it ain't nothing special, imo.

    • @elijahray9792
      @elijahray9792 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ already got it 😆. That’s my edc.

    • @kentoncarter1103
      @kentoncarter1103 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No I’m sure they are going to produce a cost effective full small frame or aftermarket will.

    • @elijahray9792
      @elijahray9792 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kentoncarter1103 I called Springfield and they said not at this time. But I’m with you on that one. I’ll wait. It crazy how this week is full of reviews on this one.

  • @oogabooga72
    @oogabooga72 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This vs PDP? Can you make a comparison video? The mag over insertion concerns me.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Imma have to pick up a PDP!🤘

    • @elcidcampeador9629
      @elcidcampeador9629 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      PDP compact has an abysmal recoil impulse.

    • @antoniodelgado7229
      @antoniodelgado7229 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Use the correct mag and you won't have that issue.

  • @Caliboy94
    @Caliboy94 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Pretty cool love my full size echelon,but for compact think I will stick to hellcat pro

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Both are solid choices! Since you have the full spice echelon, you can easily pick up a compact echelon slide or grip later if you really wanted 🤘

  • @Jusgunsandsneaks
    @Jusgunsandsneaks 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love my full size echelon and my hellcat Pro… but this has me interested. 🤔

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s a nice compact setup!🤘

  • @AntonXChigurh
    @AntonXChigurh 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Every year a new Glock "killer" comes around, Sig P320, Sig XMacro, Walther PDP, etc. And yet, Glock is still king for many reasons; parts availability, magazines, and widespread use. One day it may happen. That day is not here yet

    • @mattw.1646
      @mattw.1646 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They've saturated the market, people are getting bored, and sales are showing it..

    • @LWAG-99
      @LWAG-99 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Glock is not the king of military contracts 🤷‍♂️.

    • @believein1
      @believein1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Even by copying what a Glock is, as many US companies have done over the recent years, it’s like a Ford trying to be a Mercedes. Unrefined, and the European equivalents coming for this and the Hellcat will be better.

    • @AntonXChigurh
      @AntonXChigurh 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@believein1 I bought into the hype and bought a Hellcat Pro. Guess what, I went back to my 19 and 26. The slim micro nines just don't shoot as well IMO.

    • @lucasschmitz4588
      @lucasschmitz4588 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Except it might be here it may not be one gun but the chasis system is the future, the echelon F bodies the g17 in every way except aftermarket and the mags like you mentioned but for a unique reason the glock can operate with sig p320 and echelon mags in a pinch, other than that outta the box preformance vs outta the box preformance echelon wins all day better trigger, truly ambi, better grip texture, better sights, better slide sereations, better ergonomics higher capacity outta the box

  • @Kushanody
    @Kushanody 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They gotta work on some kinks but I’ll get it when they make some updates to some of the issues you were having like they did with the prodigy.

  • @2A-J.MAY08
    @2A-J.MAY08 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What are these gonna be priced at? I know my local shop priced me $699 for the full size comped model of the echelon.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right around that same time

    • @Wooahchris
      @Wooahchris วันที่ผ่านมา

      My dealer got me a price. He can get it to me for 580 before tax. So very reasonable.

  • @archangelministries2265
    @archangelministries2265 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The slide not locking back is likely a grip issue. Ive never had that problem with my full size echelon. And the trigger reset is a simple fix. Pick up a trigger from tyrant cnc. Almost no creep and has a much better reset.

  • @BlxvkMamba
    @BlxvkMamba 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The hellcat pro was a beautiful invention. This is redundant and not needed. No thanks. Glock 19 tested and proven and I’ll take that all day over this.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Agreed, The Hellcat Pro is awesome. Time will tell on the Echelon. Thanks for the comment!🤘

    • @mattw.1646
      @mattw.1646 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Horrible take..ergonomics and customization are completely different.

  • @believein1
    @believein1 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The larger frame and shorter slide would be a Echelon 4.0"X" according to Glock lol. But seriously, the comp would be amazing. If Glock wants to mess around, they should offer the same; a 17 frame with 19 slide and comp. Cha Ching.

  • @John-zs2eo
    @John-zs2eo 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nice pistol, but I already have all my Glocks, and contrary to most thinking you can have enough of a good thing.

  • @losoway4505
    @losoway4505 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you get replacement parts ?

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m sure Springfield will start offering them on their site for all Echelons👍

  • @DesertTactical
    @DesertTactical 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Seems like it runs smooth. Ive havent even shot the Full size… lol

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It is! Def a solid choice. Appreciate the comment man!🤘

    • @DesertTactical
      @DesertTactical 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Yeah. The Echelon is that one piece I havent had the interest in acquiring but def wanna try it…

  • @DPM-dp9on
    @DPM-dp9on 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Many guns have copied the Glock 19, but none have surpassed it.

  • @drewmorg.
    @drewmorg. 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Glock recoiled noticeably less... it's the king and always will be the king. Everyone knows if you have an Echelon and a Glock on the night stand which one you're picking up when the front door gets kicked in ...

    • @antoniodelgado7229
      @antoniodelgado7229 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yup, my Echelon. Shoots better, feels better, handles better than any Glock I have.

    • @drewmorg.
      @drewmorg. 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@antoniodelgado7229 No hesitation?

    • @antoniodelgado7229
      @antoniodelgado7229 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@drewmorg. None whatsoever. I mean, to be fair, I'd be grabbing my house gun (10.5" suppressed 300BLK) before any of my pistols.

  • @AlabamaPilgrim333
    @AlabamaPilgrim333 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Like it, but not a Glock 19 killer.
    Only way I ever see that happening is a pistol that is adopted with such frequency that mags are common in the majority of all households and states. While Glock may not control the latest innovations, they certainly have leverage on what is considered the most common, average, wildly available magazines and platforms in the US.

  • @MrJunkman1982
    @MrJunkman1982 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Heck ya! I want one!

  • @williamrussell9114
    @williamrussell9114 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If the 2.0 performance center m&p carry comp can’t kill the 19. Springfield sure as hell isn’t going to.

  • @TheLoneRanger745
    @TheLoneRanger745 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Scootch Don tested the trigger pull on his sample it came in at tested at +/- 4 lbs. Brake . Not sure why your's tested so heavy .

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is odd. I used the standard Wheeler trigger gauge🤔

    • @ggrandcz
      @ggrandcz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, because he did it at bottom end of trigger shoe in place where noone is pulling the trigger. It is more 5,5lbs than 4. Stop watching that clown with no single negative in his reviews.

  • @Magswap
    @Magswap 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hopefully they keep going with the downsizing and bring a smaller option like the hellcat for us lefties.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Agreed! If Springfield doesn’t do it, I’m sure a Aftermarket company will make other grips and slides for the Echelon 🤘

  • @RakeemBright-e2n
    @RakeemBright-e2n 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    00:03 the glock nineteen is already dead, we were searching for glock killer in the twenty tens

  • @stewpidaso26
    @stewpidaso26 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    these COG type systems would make more sense if i could buy the frame and slide to make the 4.0c at a quarter or half the cost of a new pistol. i thought that was one of the major points of doing this. we are pretty much back to having to buy 2 guns to make multiple guns. you could do these swaps with glocks, even between some of the generations. you could always do a "19L" or glock49 gun. parts are interchangeable between generations up until the 5th gen. i guess im not seeing the point here or the money savings.

    • @antoniodelgado7229
      @antoniodelgado7229 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The frames are about a tenth of the price of the gun itself. 65 bucks for the C frame.

  • @RepentorPerish77
    @RepentorPerish77 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Nice pistol but I’ll stick with my 2.0 Carry Comp

  • @aj8580
    @aj8580 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really wanted to like the full size echelon, but for some reason my finger would always get pinched from the trigger. Anybody else have this issue? Is the simple solution to just replace the trigger?

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ve had that issue with some other flat faced safety triggers! Not as much on the Echelon for me tho👍

  • @boomee78
    @boomee78 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    There is no glock killer stop with click bait

    • @driftitlikeyouownit
      @driftitlikeyouownit 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There are plenty glock killer pistols stop being a fanboy

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🚨Glock fan boy alert🚨

  • @ThomasSimmons-j9l
    @ThomasSimmons-j9l 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'll stick with John wicks gun 🔫

  • @staxxganghundo2221
    @staxxganghundo2221 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Every new gun is the Glock killer 😂 yeah right

  • @frankmischler4424
    @frankmischler4424 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    No such thing as a Glock killer

    • @AdjudicatorBrbal
      @AdjudicatorBrbal 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I bet you vote democrat. Lmao most glock guys are. 😆😆😆😆

    • @frankmischler4424
      @frankmischler4424 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ damn dude what a comeback

    • @antoniodelgado7229
      @antoniodelgado7229 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Damn near everything is a Glock killer, especially Glock themselves. Glock has been stuck in the past for years while everyone else is out-innovating the shit outta them.

    • @frankmischler4424
      @frankmischler4424 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ all this innovative shit is crap and a gimmick they’re simple easy and run

    • @antoniodelgado7229
      @antoniodelgado7229 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@frankmischler4424 there's nothing gimmicky about better triggers, better sights, better ergonomics, better slide designs, better optics mounting, better grip textures, etc.

  • @semlohde1
    @semlohde1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    More like the xdme and hellcat pro killer. Grip of hellcat, modified slide of xdme- poof it's a miracle! Echelon 4.0c

  • @danieldy6632
    @danieldy6632 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just dont think glocks can be killed by any gun companies, not a glock fanboy I actually carry a sig.

  • @RaymondWilliams-j2e
    @RaymondWilliams-j2e 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If it’s for free yes it’s a Glock killer

  • @brothertank9556
    @brothertank9556 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The insert issue .isn't the guns issue it's the person not using correct mag issues.

  • @dub_wrld
    @dub_wrld 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I came to say that the title of this video is blasphemous. Cya!

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the comment, have a great day👍

  • @YungBeezer
    @YungBeezer 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    >glock 19 killer
    >$719 MSRP
    lol
    lmao

  • @pollock56th
    @pollock56th วันที่ผ่านมา

    All these "19" killers? Lets see how they hold up with heavy use and high round counts. Lets see how ubiquitous spare parts are for them too.

  • @salvadormelendez9749
    @salvadormelendez9749 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The Springfield Armory Echelon will get you killed.
    When you put a G19 slide on a G47 (full sized) grip you get a G45. To see that the Echelon has that modularity is a point in favor, imo.
    The problem is that if you run the risk of over inserting an extended magazine and causing a malfunction, then you will definately cause a malfunction if you are in a real fight and are reloading with an entended magazine on an empty chamber and with the slide back. You cannot over insert a Glock ''happy stick'' because they are designed to prevent that from happening.
    The Echalon looks like an awesome range toy, maybe up to competition worthy, but I wouldn't trust my life or my family's securtity on it.
    Out of all the channels I have seen reviewing the Echelon, you are the only one that has bothered to mention this detail. Thanks for your honesty. This is ''need to know'' info for anyone thinking on purchasing this product for defensive purposes.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for the comment and so true about the mags! I know you could put an extended base plate on it but like you said a long Glock mag does not have those type of issues!

    • @antoniodelgado7229
      @antoniodelgado7229 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You could just, you know, use the mags you're supposed to use with it instead of mags designed for a larger framed gun.
      The Echelon runs flawlessly with the mags it was intended to use. The reason you haven't seen other channels talk about this is because the 4.0C is new. This issue doesn't happen with the full size Echelon, and it doesn't happen with the C using the CORRECT mags.

  • @YEETUS_DELETUS_
    @YEETUS_DELETUS_ 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My wallet is screaming at me not to buy this right now 😂

  • @DROCIVXX
    @DROCIVXX 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Glock is dead, lmao click bait, people do this weird comparison shit with tech too (iPhone vs Android) smh, nerds.

  • @Gheymfag
    @Gheymfag 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is an ad

  • @toddparsons2980
    @toddparsons2980 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Probably riding the slide stop.

  • @chumpchange00
    @chumpchange00 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like it ... but the glocks are still nice .

  • @NorthCarolinaConservative
    @NorthCarolinaConservative 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sooooo.. in conclusion. You should re-title this vid.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂 I added a question mark for ya… keep the suspense built up!

    • @NorthCarolinaConservative
      @NorthCarolinaConservative 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @1stShotTactical haha.. thats true!

  • @In_con_ceivable
    @In_con_ceivable 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who is still buying Glocks today based on parts availability, police forces use them….blah blah, blah…stop comparing your personal range time to duty/service time. There are so many better options out there. Sheesh.🙄

  • @iKevin_22
    @iKevin_22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why add as a con the use of a wrong size mag? That full size mag does not come included with the compact no matter what variant you get, dumb from your end

  • @phuctruong4940
    @phuctruong4940 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    my dream come true .love it kkkk

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤘🤘thanks for the comment!

  • @2AKyron
    @2AKyron 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I will be getting one to replace my Glock 19 whenever a company makes a comp for it! I use my Glock 45 for duty so i just want to try something different

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Awesome to hear and yes the comp will be awesome for it!

  • @Rubeless
    @Rubeless 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You press the trigger after the slide locks back when trying to shoot fast. You lower your pistol to meet the incoming fresh mag when reloading. But you have “tactical” in your channel name. Tells me all I need to know.

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      tAcTi-CoOl broooo 😂😂 I’m autistic

  • @108pel
    @108pel 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh wow another compared to…
    Smh

  • @PunisherArms
    @PunisherArms 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gun is ugly and 10 + 1 is a joke

  • @Kingdarius1994
    @Kingdarius1994 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It costs too much, if regular ppl can’t afford it how is it going to kill its competition

    • @1stShotTactical
      @1stShotTactical  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Price is right on par with Glock and Sig🤔

  • @ariz8281
    @ariz8281 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The only glock 19 killer… is the glock 45 mos . The Springfield echelon is is a very good option . But Glock 45 Mos With a OEM Performance trigger , foward controls rmr plate witha Trijicon RCR enclosed emmiter 🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾 . Cant beat that Glock Reliability. Also BIG FAN OF YOUR CHANNEL. Please do a review of the Daniel Defense PCC when it gets released!!!!!

    • @dane5160
      @dane5160 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      So let me make sure I understand... If you purchase a glock 19, then purchase and install an after market trigger to replace the absolute garbage one that comes on it. Then order a single use optic mounting plate and put an optic on it that costs more than the gun itself then it's better than the Echelon?

    • @ariz8281
      @ariz8281 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dane5160first off . The trijicon rcr used a standard rmr footprint so that “single use optic plate” you speak of can be used to mount most optics. Second i said “OEM” performance trigger. Oem means that GLOCK MAKES IT . And the plate was only 60 bucks and the trigger was 100. I have shot an echelon before and the echelon trigger in my opinion is better than the STOCK glock trigger, but not the performance trigger. That may be my subjective opinion though.

  • @commonsense1825
    @commonsense1825 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    People these guns are NOT made by Springfield Armory they are DISTRIBUTED by them. They are great guns but will never be a Glock killer Keep in mind over 80% of police departments use Glock for a reason. Good luck having them change. As far as it beating the Glock killer it has a very long way to go.